You’re Not Spiritually Disconnected: Why Everyone SEEMS To Be More Peaceful Than You

The peace you're chasing is already inside you. We're conditioned to believe that peace, happiness, and purpose exists somewhere outside of us. That we need to achieve more, to learn more, to search harder, to finally feel whole. In this radio show, Wayne Dyer dismantles that belief, revealing that there is no separation between the spiritual and the physical. No division between you and the life you desire. Everything, your Struggles, your doubts, even the things you wish weren't there is part of the same source. The moment you stop labeling life as spiritual or ordinary and start seeing everything

as connected, you step into the balance you've been searching for. You don't need to chase peace. It's been waiting for you all along. Special thanks to Hay House for partner with me to release this content exclusively here on my YouTube channel. And if you make it all The way to the end of this video, leave a hashtag believe in the comments below so I can celebrate you in a future video. Believe Dr. Wayne Dyer, welcome to our program or your program and um how are you doing today? I'm doing just great. Just got out of

the ocean and it's a beautiful morning on Maui as always on Maui. So, what can you tell us this morning about how we can juggle our spirituality and our regular lives and make it all fit in together? Well, I Think the first thing that we have to do when we look at this idea of uh of spiritual and physical is to uh no longer make a division between the two. I think that's the biggest mistake that is made in the uh in the whole community of people who are calling themselves quote uh you know spiritual

people that spirituality isn't something that is separate from the physical world. the u the great lesson that I have been uh experiencing in my entire lifetime and Particularly in the last oh uh six or seven months since the 1st of January of this year since I've been writing a book about living in the living the Dao the Dao Dqing is that the Dao which is just another word for the source or for God or for spirit or for the great force that animates all of life and creates everything is everywhere and if you start if

you stop the dividing and carving it up and looking for it in uh one place and not in another and begin To see it everywhere in everything that you look at. Balance will be immediately restored for yourself. See, most of us um you know, we live in a world where we are constantly told that there's evil and that there's bad and that there's things that shouldn't be and and that there's uh you know, all of these dichotoies and and splits and and things that we the way that we carve up the world. But the fact

is that there's only one source. There's only one Dao. There's only one God. And this source is uh it's in a spiderweb and it's even in the plastic. It's in the industrial waste that we create in our planet. It's in a tire and it's in a bird and it's in you know virtually every cloud and and the ocean and and I could just go on and on for the next 6 hours trying to reiterate this point that spirituality is all and it's everywhere and there's no place that it is not. That's my mother calling me.

Oh wow. And my Mother's 90 years old in her 91st year. So she can interrupt my radio show if she wants to. That's right. I'll cover for you for a minute while you talk to your mother. No, no, it's gone. I turned it off. I'll get her back. But as she always says, she talks about she's so old. She said uh you know, she said when I was a young girl, she said the Dead Sea wasn't even sick yet. So that's uh that's that's her humor. Oh. And and and even even her calling right now,

there's Something about that because she's a great reminder to me of of the fact that spirit is everywhere. So stop first of all stop uh dividing it up. Stop uh stop looking for assuming that uh that it's someplace else. And right now in this very moment, you know, just gaze wherever you are, whatever room you're in or if you're outdoors, if you're on a cell phone, if you're driving in your car, if you're in your living room or whatever, just look around, look out the Window, look at and just begin to bless every single thing

that you find in your life. This is the shest and the quickest and the most important way to get out of what is called what some people call the rat race. I heard it referred to as as they were describing this program here today that there's this rat race. There's no rat race out there. That's that's just a term that we have invented because we don't know really how to go within and stay calm and find the peace That's within each and every one of us. There's no anxiety out there. There's no pressure out there.

There's no uh you know there's no depression out there. All of these things are something that we have created for ourselves in our lives in our own minds. And when you begin to see God everywhere and it's one of the things I I talk about when I talk a lot about about manifesting and how to create things for yourself in your life. There's a story told of a little boy and He was living in India oh something like the 12th or the 13th century. And everywhere this little boy would go he would just perform miracles.

He was what they call an avatar. People would be healed just by being in his presence. And uh he was like living Christ consciousness. Uh he didn't take on an ego when he came into this world. And everywhere he'd go, there'd be miracles around him. And there was such a calmness and a peacefulness about him. And all of the people gathered around him and and some of the elders in the tribe went to him and said, you know, I'll give you uh I'll give you they tried to bribe him. They said, I'll give you an

orange if you can tell me where God is. and uh he stopped and he looked at them and he said, "I'll give you two oranges if you can tell me where God isn't." The reasoning or the thinking behind what this great avatar was saying is that uh if God is everywhere, then God must be in you. And if God is everywhere and God is in you, God must also be in all of the things that you wish that you could have in your life. So that in some immeasurable invisible way you're already connected to every

single thing in this universe through this thing that we call God or the Dao or the spirit or the source or the divine mind. So that it is in us and it's everywhere else. So we are connected literally connected to Everything that we want for ourel in our life. And then what we do is we separate ourselves from that in our minds and we begin to believe that we're something separate from that. And in the process of doing that, we get ourselves into this quote rat race. We begin to we begin to say to oursel

that we must have more. I'm I don't have enough. I'm not as good as somebody else. I must be And this morning, just this morning, I was writing on the uh the 54th verse of the Dao. In the 54th verse of the Dao, Lao Chu says that uh Dao is everywhere. It has become everything. To truly see it, see it as it is. See it in a person. See it in the family. See it in the country. See it in the world. And this is the whole essence of all of it that there is nothing

for you to be divided from. And again keep in mind that you came from a place of oneness. Oneness means that it can't be divided. We came into this world and we began to see dichotoies. We Began to see what uh what Lau called the 10,000 things. So we have ups and downs and rights and wrongs and males and females and yins and yangs and and all of these dichotoies and divisions that we've created in our life. But the fact is that we came from a place that doesn't have anything like that. And we're going

back to a place that is exactly like that. The effort, the goal, what I'm writing about right now and what I'm encouraging you here today on This radio show is to while you're here in this world of yin and yang and of opposites and beginnings and ends, norths and souths and all of these divisions, as long as you're in this world that is like that, make every effort in your mind to return to the oneness. Return to the place where there are no divisions and you're ultimately totally in balance and you begin to see God

everywhere, even in the kinds of things that are going on on the planet Like right now right now I get so distressed at the way that we divide things up and the way that we try to resolve problems not only in our own lives but politically and so on with all of the conflicts that are raging all over the planet we send our envoys over to the Middle East to try to resolve it but already before we go we say well we're not going to talk to these people and we're not going to talk to

these because they are part of some kind of Evil empire and these people over here don't see life the way we do Mean meanwhile, those are the people who are at war. Those are the people who are in these divisions and are killing each other and we refuse to talk to them. We won't have anything to do with them. If we would just say, you know what, there's a lot of people who with a lot of hatred for a lot of people out there in the world. Let's bring them all to the same table. Even

if we don't agree, If we let's find out what is going on inside of that other person that allows them to be have so much hatred that they actually want to kill other people. And if we could do that and just think like that, think like the Dao, this all of these conflicts that we have all over the planet would come to an immediate end. Now bring that down to your own personal life and do the very same thing. Look at all of the conflicts, all the difficulties, all the struggles, all The things that you

think are your problems and begin to see the God within you and all of the people that you're in conflict with or all of the things that you you think are missing from your life. See yourself there. See yourself in them. and then begin to discuss it from that perspective and before you know it, you've seen God everywhere. Okay. Well, there you go. Wow. I was I was just as you were talking specifically about the Middle East as Well, I was thinking about how your personal behavior is what you are suggesting that we model in

our interactions with the rest of the world. And I was thinking that's a great show topic, Dr. Dyer. It really is. Well, it's I want you to talk about that because I mean I hear the Secretary of State saying we won't talk to these people. We got problems in North Korea. We're not going to talk to them over there unless they agree to do this. We've got the Hezbollah and the Hamas over here and they're the ones who have We're not going to talk to the Syrians and we're not going to talk to these people.

We're not going to talk to Meantime though that's where the conflict is. I remember when the Vietnam War was going on, they spent 3 months discussing, you know, who was going to sit at the table and what shape the table was going to be in. Meanwhile, people were dying every single day. So It's uh it's getting ourselves back into into the purity and seeing ourselves in everyone even those people who are we consider the most hateful and our enemies. We have a whole lot of callers waiting to speak with you. Great. Okay. Let's go now

to Christina. She's in Akran, Ohio. Christina, welcome. Hi Dr. Dyer. Hi Christina. How are you? I'm great. I want to thank you for writing uh spiritual solution to every problem. Oh my pleasure. It was years ago. I Wrote it in a Cisc. Yeah, I read that in 2001 and I had 16 years of sobriety at the time and it just blew the door wide open. But I'm still having a hard time with this spiritual balance in the physical world. I work in the rooms of AA a lot and sometimes I really make myself crazy. In

what way? Oh, I don't know. It just seems like I take two steps forward and then go back. It's like I like you were saying I I need to just be quiet And and get connected to the source and realize everything is one. And you already are connected to the source. So you don't have to you don't have to you just have to stop the chatter inside of you yourself that has has makes makes you believe that you're disconnected. But what is it about you said the AA thing. What is it about that that is

troubling to you? There is people look at me like I'm crazy. They look at me like Well, that's a big club. I'm in it Too. So They want to know why I'm so happy all the time. You know, they will turn away from me, get angry, you know, it it's just it's very strange to try to communicate with people, you know, and I I study the big book of AA and I try to help others learn how to stay clean and sober, but sometimes they look at me like I'm totally way out in left field

somewhere. And I'm I'm wondering if that's what makes me slip Back in. Yes, it is. And it's a very good thing to look at because, you know, we talk about being out of balance. I mean, uh it's a big area to get into this whole idea of being concerned about what other people think of you. But what I have learned in reading the Dao and doing all of this writing that I'm doing right now because I write every single day right now. This whole year I'm I've devoted to writing every day. Mhm. And um one

of the things that Lauu speaks About is um is that the great sages the great the wisest people the one who really live totally connected to God to the to God and to the source they speak very little and they get they almost don't even notice uh what other people think about them. One of the things that uh they said of Lauu when he wrote this 81 verses is that um he just dictated them and then just left it. he just sort of disappeared because every everybody everybody out there in in uh 500 BC in

China thought that this man who was living so peacefully and so joyfully and so lovingly in harmony with nature and in harmony with God. Everyone just uh wanted him to join the armies and they wanted him to uh be a part of all of the conflicts and all of the struggles and all of the difficulties that were going on then and are still going on now. As I read what was happening 500 years BC, they were using horses then to uh to kill each other and breeding breeding Horses. Today we just use rockets. But I

mean basically the world was the same at that time. And he was teaching us how to uh to to be independent of the good opinion of other people. How to be detached from uh whether or not people uh whatever people are thinking about you. And to be a great sage is to be it's almost like your your you know your best teachers. Do you have cats around you? I have three. Do you? Well, I mean they are dowist masters. I mean they are The greatest the most spiritual beings I think on the planet and not

just cats but I mean virtually I mean a spider, a beaver, uh you know you know a bird, whatever it might be. Anything that is totally in harmony with nature is in harmony with nature and isn't concerned about, you know, I mean, there's no cat out there who sits around worrying about what all the other cats think of them or whether they think that he's crazy or whatever. And they do whatever it is That that that that in instinctively they know is about their catness and and you don't you know, you go around and saying,

"Okay, who I am is this person, but I got this one over here who thinks that and I got that one over there." And you're putting way way too much energy on how other people are reacting to you and it can bring you down. So I just need to keep practicing. Yeah. But I mean here you are what how many years sober are you? It'll be 20 and you're Working with other people who are struggling with addictions. Right. Right. Right. I mean what I mean you are God calling in on this radio station. I mean

that I mean you should be sitting around putting you know a halo around your head. I mean you're doing the work of the angels. you are out there helping people who've lost their way. I'm just so proud to just be talking to someone who devotes their life. I have a really close friend, her name is Lauren, and She just took a week of her vacation time in Florida to go to Denver to help her uncle who's had a stroke and she called me this morning and she said, "I don't even know what I'm doing here.

I can't do anything for him." And I said, Lauren, I said, "Sweetheart," I said, "You are just your presence there." It's like I am so honored to be able to talk to someone who would give a week of their vacation to just sit there and be with another person who is struggling From a stroke. That's who you are. That's how I feel about you. And I I want you to feel that way about you, too. Thank you. Yeah. I um you know, people do tell me that. It's just sometimes I don't absorb what they're saying.

I I don't know. Well, you're hearing it from me and I'm and I'm giving it I'm giving it to you right from Lao, too. That's 2500 years ago. So, I mean, you you've crossed over. Okay. Give yourself a big pat on the Back, beautiful lady. Thank you. And I so love you. I saw you when you came here and did Power of Intention with in Aman, was it? Yeah, with Dr. Gordon. Oh my goodness. He was just here on my What a beautiful man he is. Terry Gordon. He's a medical doctor and a cardiologist there.

Yeah, he took he took care of my dad briefly while his doctor was away. And uh he's one of the Yeah, it was really cool because we got to talk about the power of intention while he was in The hospital. though. Yeah, he's another angel. He's a person who saw that young boys across the country were having, you know, in playing football every, you know, like five or six times a year there would be a young boy who would have a who would have a cardiac arrest in the middle of a football game. So, he

figured out a way to get these machines in every high school in the state of Ohio that would be there for emergency care. They've already saved like 15 or 20 lives because just because of his kind of vision. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I remember that evening. It was a wonderful wonderful evening in Athens. Well, I'm just going to keep practicing these principles, all of them. And thank you so much. God bless you. Beautiful call. Thanks. Thanks, Christina. All right, Dr. Dar, we're going to go now to Fenita in Boston, Ohio. Fenita, welcome to the program. Thank

you so much. You're out of the you know, you're You're all mixed up. You're in the wrong state or the wrong city. Which is it? This is Boston, Massachusetts. I'm Punita. Oh, it's Boston, Massachusetts. Okay. Forgive me. My screen is wrong. Very fair. Hi, how are you? I'm good. It's an honor to talk to you, Dr. Dyer. Likewise. Thank you. I want to discuss about uh my excessive sleepiness and I'm like I listen to your TV show that there's a spiritual solution for every problem. And I'm just wondering, well, Forgive me. I'm a little nervous.

Oh, that's okay. It seems like I'm sleepwalking throughout through most of the days and I want to do so much and I'm so lucky to get most of the things that I want like I'm in biotechnology and I'm going to be a genetic counselor and I got this beautiful course and I'm starting at uh late August and I'm and I'm worried because I'm going to do my graduate studies and if I carry on being the sleepy and um dazed most of the time I'm going to I have a hard time. You when you say sleepy,

do you mean literally sleepy or do you mean like figuratively you're you're sleepy? I'm yawning. You're sleepy. Okay. So, you're you're physically tired? Yes. I'm always I'm feeling like my brain is turnurning or working so slowly and I'm fatigued. It's very interesting this whole sleep thing and fatigue because I think a big uh part of the foundation of uh of drowsiness and sleepiness is in our mind Because I think virtually all illness and struggles and so on that we have physically have a have a mental or spiritual component or aspect to them. And that's the

part that I'd like to address. As I said, you might want to check for uh see if there's some kind of chemical imbalance in your body or be checked out by physically. But I assume that you know that and probably have done that anyway. My doctor had checked my thyroids and right had talked to me About it and she is still wondering. I'm planning to go to a sleep clinic, but I I still want to hear your um Yeah, my my view of it. I think I think God directed me to I mean I never

get in in any of these shows and I tried the first ring you you came through and um well that's great because there's a lot of there's a lot of callers calling in now too. Okay. So here's the thing. I think that when I'm just going to give you my own personal uh experience with this and so On that when I am free of worry when I am free of anxiety when I'm free of putting pressure on myself to have to perform or to have to do things a certain way and I'm just telling you

what's coming through over the phone just instinctively what I'm hearing from you is a possessed person who is almost obsessed with your own excellence and having to do things at a certain level and If you don't perform at a certain level, then uh you get very very hard on Yourself. I'm I'm just guessing that. I don't It isn't even a guess. I can just I just know it. I can feel that. Is there any truth in that for you? Yes. Okay. So, uh, and it's and it's and it's about what, uh, you know, getting through

your the program that you've got coming up and then the next program and getting another degree and how well am I going to do and and probably were raised around uh, you know, a lot with lots of expectations for um, you know, for for Who you are and what you were supposed to do and how well you have to do. Now, if you can shed some of those things, you can get rid of of uh of some of those high expectations and move into detach yourself from outcome and get yourself into process. And that means

that you begin to find the joy in what it is that you are doing. And if you can't find the joy in what it is that you are doing, I mean the real joy where you feel internally, not because you've Achieved something, not because you got a good grade on it or because you got another diploma or because you made a lot of money at it or you got a promotion for it. Those are just external things. But the joy of actually doing it, like this morning, I was sitting there writing on this subject that

we're talking about here today. And uh I I really almost wish I could just get this thing out and just read it to you. I don't like to read over the Phone, but but it was flowing so beautifully. It was so passionate and there was nothing going on in there that I was saying, "Gee, I hope this really sells and I hope I make a lot of money off of this and I hope the book gets on the bestseller list and I hope people like it and I hope I get really good reviews and I

hope nobody finds anything wrong with it." There was nothing like that. And it was just there was so much passionate, fulfilling, exciting, Wonderful, loving appreciation for being able to have a mind and a space to be able to allow this beautiful uh teachings to come through me. That's what you've got to get to. Uh how do you say your name? Funa. Fonita. Where are you from? India. You're from India? I thought so. And lots of pressure from uh people, highly educated people from uh from that background, aren't there? That's true. Lots of pressure to excel,

to be the best, to be at the top. You Almost every class has a valid validictorian from India in it. You know, really hardworking people. I've had a lot of them in therapy. So, it's the you know that laugh that you're coming that's coming out right now. Yeah. That's the joy I'm talking about in whatever it is that you are undertaking. Go to that and you know what? Fatigue is going to be gone and yawning is going to disappear. I guarantee you if I took you out here Today and it was like or let's say

tomorrow morning I got you up at 6 o'clock and I said, "Fonita, today you're going to learn how to jump out of an airplane and I put you up on an airplane and I stood you outside and I told you not for the next hour I'm going to give you instruction and the next 3 hours I'm going to show you a video and then after that you're going to be jumping out of a plane." I wouldn't see you yawning. you know, you would be Paying such close attention and you'd be so involved and you'd be

so excited about doing this and making sure that the parachute is packed right and do you know what I mean? I mean, it's like that's where you got to go. That's where you got to go with what you're doing and let God let the universe take care of all the details about uh how well you're going to do and how much you're going to make and whether you're going to please your father who probably, you know, put A lot of pressure on you to excel and so on. That's my take on it. How does that

sound? That's great. I'm inspired. Inspired. I'm inspired. Yeah. And you And I thought you said I'm not tired, but you know what? I'm not tired and inspired. They sound almost the same, don't they? True. They are the same. I'm not tired. I'm inspired. I like that. Thank you for that. And I love your laugh. And I'll bet you you're so beautiful. Thank you so much. Thank You very much. Thanks, Venita, for your call. All right, Dr. D. Let's go on now to Mary Anna. She's in West Palm Beach. Dare I say Ohio? No, you got

everybody in Ohio. We're in Florida right now. Mariana, welcome to the program. Hi, thank you for taking my call. Hi, Mariana. How are you? I'm very good. I have a question for you today. Okay. My husband, he is a skeptic. He is very intellectual and he needs to have an explanation for everything. You know, he Needs to see if to believe it. And I'm very spiritual. I mean, I I know, you know, I I just I just know how it works and he doesn't understand it. And he's always had this um almost like a black

cloud on him. You know, he always has a bad energy and you know just tired like like the other color tired but I tried to explain to him like you know in this like to be more spiritual and that way he will be happier in life gratitude and stuff. Let me ask you something Mar why do you think you're married to him? I am married to him. I don't know. Why did you fall in love with this man? I don't know. Just him and aside to those things, him as a person. He's just so such

a good person and so loving. You have children? Not yet. Actually, we've been trying to get pregnant, but I don't know why. For some reason, we can't. Uhhuh. I I have to look into that in the doctors actually because we've been Trying for a while. How long? Um like six months. I have a uh that's not very long, but uh Oh, it's fine. Well, I'm only 22, so I don't know. It's my first baby, you know, I'm going to have. So, yeah. You know what I would do? I would stop trying and just allow and

just enjoy and stop trying to make a baby, but just enjoy making love. And just like really put take all the all of the again the pressure, the the the the emphasis on this is off the subject a Little bit, but maybe it's not. taking all of the emphasis off of uh baby making and and and and and put all of your attention and all of your energy into just like completely immersing yourself joyfully in the experience of of loving uh loving your husband and then you know what God will take care of the rest.

You don't need a doctor yet. I don't I'm That's my guess. I don't think you need a doctor. Your your baby's on Thank you. Your baby's on its way. We'll We'll try that. Thank you very much. Yeah, it's a girl, too. Uh Oh, really? Absolutely. But I want to go back to this this whole idea of of why you're married to this man. I mean, he is decidedly skeptical. He's much more scientific. He's much more pragmatic, practical, right? Wants to see. And you have, you're much more, you know, he's much more yang. You're much more

yin. He's more of the uh, you know, you got to show me. You're the More of a I I believe it. You know, you've got the feminine energy. Funny because we say to each other that we actually ask each other, you know, why are we together because we're so different, but we always come to the conclusion that opposites attract. So that's what we always stick around. So anyway, the I'm still thinking about the baby girl. Oh, yeah. I even had a name splash across there like Angela or something. I don't Know. Or Angelina. I don't

know. That was really strange. But anyway, what is the name? What is the name? It was Angel or Angelina or Angel. Angel. Oh my gosh. That's what I told Arthur. Yes. That's what That's what I was trying to tell my husband Arthur that I wanted angels. Did you really? Yes. Well, it was flashing flashing. I'm I'm telling I'm going to take all these psychics and put them all out of business. It's all starting to flash. Dr. Dyer, I have a whole new show For you. We keep doing this. Well, anyway, she's on her way, baby.

She's on her way. I promise. Thank you. Thank you. But again, you know, creation is really not in our hands. I mean, every child that comes into this world, I have eight children, and I even wrote in one of my books, Wisdom of the Ages, this is the last chapter, and I wrote about just this incredible miracle about it, my last daughter, Sage, who I was just talking to 2 minutes ago here on Maui. She's over here with us. She's 16 now. But, um, once you've had like one of these kinds of experiences, you know

that it's really not up to you anyway. So, that's why I always say to everybody, just let go of the whole idea. If you're supposed to have children, they're coming. whether you even if you think you're not you know you're not going to you're going to do something about it there's absolutely nothing that you can do to stop it and If you're not supposed to if God has other plans for you then uh you know there's nothing that you can do either you can invitro yourself all day and all night and it's uh it's not

going to happen then this is all in the hands of God yeah that's right that's right yeah so once you really get that and you get that because you got to look at your own birth the same way and your own presence here on this planet the same way and you look at your own death the same way as Well and And then you begin to get really loosened up about all of it. You know, like the first nine months of your life from the moment you're conceived until you're born. You turn everything over to

God. Everything. You just you don't worry about it. You don't get anxious about it. You don't you just you just allow it all to happen. Then you show up and then everybody around you says, "We'll take over." And once you start doing that, that's when you start Having all the problems that we have in the world. It's taking over, telling God, "Well, we'll do it this way and we're going to do that." And when you get back and just let go. And that's basically what I wanted to say to you about you and your husband

is that you know that it's been said that in every relationship when two people agree on everything then one of them is unnecessary you know and everything that you find the opposite in your husband is What he has to teach you and everything that he finds opposite in you is what you you are teachers for each other. That's what a great uh partnership is about. That's what a spiritual partnership is really about. It's not about one person being in control and the other one being dominant and one being submissive, one being male, one being female.

It's not about that. It's about being teachers for each other. We're all teachers to and for each Other. And you know, instead of finding, you know, fault with the fact that he doesn't see the world spiritually the way you do, look again at what all that he has to teach you and just model what it is that uh, you know, that you are and you two will have the most blessed marriage you could ever imagine. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Call me up when Angelina or Angel comes in. Okay. Okay. Thank

you very much. Thank you, sweetheart. God Bless you. Namaste. God bless you. Byebye. All right. Thank you, Mariana. Hey, what do you think of that? You even got the name. I know. Really? I'm going to have to change your whole show up now. Psychic Greetings by Wayne Dyer. What do you think? I'm going to call Sylvia cuz I, you know, and get rid of her, okay? Because I'm I'm taking over. Well, you know what? We're all one, right? You're the one who says that. So, you're Tapping right into Angel. I love Sylvia. She knows that.

Yeah. All right, Dyer. We've got uh one more caller I think we can fit into the program. What do you say we go to another Wayne in San Francisco, California? Wayne, welcome to the program. How you doing? Hey. Hey, Mr. Dyer. I got Very good. What's your name? Yeah. Oh, good. Yeah. I watch you on channel 9 here all the time. Uh KQED. Yeah. Yeah. Great place. Yeah. Good. I got a couple of questions about Meditation. Uhhuh. Okay. And I read the manifest your destiny and I have the seven CD set that came. I got

that also. And then I got getting in the gap. Now you talk about two different forms of meditation, right? And uh you know one is where you visualize you know the energy coming up from your root chakra out through the third eye. Now that's manifest your destiny. Now getting in the gap's a little different. Right. It is. Now, which do you think is better For manifesting? There's no better in it. It's just uh the reason I did the getting in the gap one was later because I had so much mail so many people after we

did the Japa meditation which is a 1-hour meditation called meditations for manifesting and it was taught that meditation was taught you know hundreds and hundreds or thousands of years ago literally by a man in India named Patanjali who was teaching people how to manifest and it came to me it was a Great teacher in India who told me how to do it and so on but many many questions about how to get how to experience how to have an experience of what it means to be in the space between your thoughts because it is out

of this space between our thoughts. It's like they say it's the silence between the notes that makes the music. Uh so that all music isn't really the sound but it's the space between that allows the music to come. And the same thing is True of of our own creation. Uh in music is you're just creating sound or you're creating a tune or a song or whatever. But in life the whole creation process is really about getting into that space between your thoughts and what is it like? And my friend Deepo Chopra actually was the one

that first got me uh looking at this idea of having a thought and I used a prayer that everybody knows about you know the Lord's prayer our father who art in Heaven. So you take the word hour and you put your attention on it and then you put take the word father and and in your mind you put your attention on it and then you just for a second you go back to the space between those two words in your mind and something happens in your body where you have an experience of being in the

gap which between those thoughts so that you are thoughtless and let me ask you do you think that would be a better technique Than the other one the other I think what it it is Wayne is that it's a way to just sort of demonstrate to you. It's sort of like it reminds me of what Kenanated when his teacher told him about using peyote and certain kinds of uh you know drugs that would give them an experience of what another dimension looks like and so that they would absolutely know that there are other dimensions that

you can go into. And then he took the drugs away and said no Because if you become dependent upon the drugs then you just become another prisoner. You're living with counterfeit freedom. So that you take that away. So and and I think of getting in the gap as giving people an experience of you know there this is what it feels like to be there and it's so blissful and and then use the the java meditation as a way of manifesting or attracting anything into your life and that's why I combined them. Oh so you think

doing both of them Oh yeah. Yeah. I think you know even if you just take a few seconds or just one time around with the Lord's prayer even at 10 words. Yeah I do that one every morning. Yeah I do that. You know the other one is where you visualize the energy coming up through your channel and out through the right. Yeah. And then you can begin to feel it coming up through your body and and there I try to teach people about why the inner mantra of God and ah is what Manifests things into

the universe. That's again a great teaching of Patanjali that goes way way back. It's a very very powerful meditation. So you're saying I should do both those meditations. Yeah. But you know what the the one in getting in the gap once you get it and once you know how to get into that gap between your thoughts you can do it you can almost do that instantaneously really after you've been doing it a few years. Yeah. Sometimes It's just a few days or a few weeks. It depends on the person. But now I can go when

in a quiet space. I could do it right now and just take that deep breath and go within put my attention on that word hour and then put it on their word father and then go and slip myself into that G. And when I did it just then in that second when I did in that second I felt like a little tiny wave of energy just going through my body and it's it's I just call it instant bliss you know It's just what I'm looking for though is not instant bliss it's I'm trying to learn

how to manifest my desires. Yeah. So then but once you get into that blissful state then you do the job of meditation and you put your what is it you want to manifest? Oh yeah you there's a girl I'm madly in love with. Let's put it that way. Yeah. Let her go career. Uh-huh. Better more money. Let her go. Let her go. And remember this what what um Customs Nicholas Customs Said. When you passionately believe in that which doesn't exist, this is how you create it. You've got to have a belief and a knowing that

it's already on its way, right? That the divinity and the love that you desire is on its way. And then you just and you passionately have a knowing about this all day and all night. That's like you never let go of that knowing. I have that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But there's some doubt in there. And if you get rid of The doubt, and then you know what? Even if you're not physically together, I mean, it's like you're going to be in bliss all the time. In bliss all the time for her, you know.

And you watch, she'll come rolling into your life because she won't be able to resist it. Really? Okay, my friend. We got to go. I think we're closing out the show. See you later. Great to talk to another Wayne, my friend. God bless you. And thanks for your call. Well, Dr. Dyer, Thank you so much. It's been another wonderful and fastm moving hour as usual. Great. And we will talk with you again next week. Okay. All right. God bless you. Thanks. Have a great weekend. Dr. Dyer, how are you doing? I'm doing great. Thank you.

How are you doing, Diane? Very good. I must say you sound uh a little more energetic and uh you know and up today. So that's great to hear. Well, I had surgery, what they call, you know, psychic surgery or Spiritual surgery from uh this divine being who uh resides down in Abadana in southern uh Brazil. His name is John of God. Oprah, you know, did a whole show on him and uh some very some luminaries have gone down there and um I had a uh a dear friend, her name is Raina Pisca. She's a medical

doctor. She's an eye surgeon in Madiraa, California. and she um really wanted me to go down to Brazil there with her. She felt compelled. She has some kind of a Connection. She's from Bulgaria and um originally and she's American now, has two daughters and lives there in California and is a prominent surgeon and she's been down there uh two or three times and she really wanted me to go but I didn't for some reason. I know why. I was writing and I didn't want to leave my writing. But um she went down and uh she

had photographs taken of me dressed in white with all different u herbs that I Was to be taking and so on. And he John of God have a picture of him with her and he had agreed to do the surgery. And I had uh as I spoke about last week, I had just a uh a profound experience of uh my body just she said I had to treat my body as if I had just come out of surgery because I had and um I didn't need to be told much longer because you if you know

me and you've heard me talk, I swim every day. I walk every day. I do yoga. I I climb stairs. Uh I lift Weights. I mean I try to stay in Yes. the best kind of shape. And I've been doing that for every day of my life since I was in my 20 or 20s or early 30s. And that's about 40 years or so. So to not be active, but it would didn't make any difference. I couldn't do anything. I slept for something like 36 hours. I started to detoxify my body and all of this

happened as a result of that. Then a week later, which was Wednesday after I had done the show, is What they call removing the sutures. And um I had an just an experience that night in the middle of the night. It took place at midnight. I had this special water that was there. I've taken these special herbs and so on. And I was told that these entities would come and um remove the sutures and that I would begin the process of healing. Now I just, you know, there's still there's a part of me that is

just still skeptical about those kinds of things. It's the Ego part of me. My spirit says everything is possible with God. All things are possible. This is John of God. And this man lives as God. I mean, he takes no money for anything that he does. He's uh available for any people that come from anywhere around the world. And people do like I say Oprah did an entire hour show went down there and uh nobody has been able to find anything that is incorrect about it. A prominent Harvard surgeon was down there Just couldn't explain

what was taking place medically and so on. So that night uh last Wednesday night about uh 11:00 at night, I went to bed and I had just purchased a watch 2 days before and it was a actually quite an expensive watch that uh my daughter insisted that I get. It's called a Panerai and it has a 10day power supply on it and it's supposed to be guaranteed to never lose a second. And I've been wearing it about oh five or 6 days and it was it was just it was A beautiful watch and it has

this it's an automatic watch but it uh it has a 10day power supply on it. When I got up uh the next morning after the suture removal, my son and my daughter both looked at me and said, "What have you been doing in there? Were you doing drugs or something?" Cuz I had tiny tiny little pupils in my eyes. My eyes were just all watering. And I looked a friend of mine called me at 8:25 and she said, "So, how did it go? You were supposed to Get up at 7:00." I said, "Well, it's only

5 after 7." And uh she said, "No, no, it's 8:25. I'm at the airport and I'm I'm catching a flight over to Honolulu." I said, "No, no, it's 7:05. If I'm looking right at my watch, you must have it wrong. And I had lost an hour and 20 minutes uh during the night. This my watch, this brand new guaranteed perfect watch had uh just lost an hour and 20 minutes, 80 or 81 minutes. And I was just like befuddled by that that how Could that happen? And when I talked to Raina about it, she said

the electromagnetic field of these healings and these teachings is so much more powerful than the electromagnetic field in your room. And you had the watch on you. it's would have caused it to stop. Again, part of me says I understand that, but they've done a test on the electromagnetic field in Abadana down there in Brazil and it's different than any place else in the world. I didn't Think again too much about it, although the watch stopping and the way that I looked in the morning when my kids thought that I was, you know, sneaking away

in my room doing drugs of some kind. But, and I felt so different. I just felt just so peaceful and so happy. And basically Diane, I just felt just pure complete love. I mean, there was nothing that I looked at that wasn't love. I mean, I I I would look at a tree and I just wanted to embrace it. Every Child when I went for a walk, and it was the first day I'd gone for a walk in 8 days cuz I had been doing nothing but resting for seven days. And this just like this

overwhelming sense of love that I still feel uh right up to this moment. But it was very very powerful at that. So about 2 days later, I reset the watch and it kept perfect time and everything and I set it on the counter, went for a swim, came back again. It lost exactly the same amount of time, an Hour and 20 or 21 minutes. I did it twice. So I decided I was taking the watch back. Wow. And I went back to the I went back to the jeweler and they said, "Well, they've never heard

of that. These Panery are guaranteed." And it's like, "We never" But they exchanged it. I got a different one. And um actually I saved quite a bit of money cuz it was the one I got was also a Panerai but it wasn't that 10day power supply and so On. And I've been wearing this one. And I've also been back to the jeweler each day to see if anything happened to the watch and it's now keeping perfect time again. But that's I called Raina Sunday. This is Monday. This was yesterday morning. She went and she has

a a Mercedes car that she was going up into the mountains with her two daughters. They're looking for a place. and she left me a message and a picture of her clock on her uh car and it had lost an Hour and 21 minutes on her clock and her Mercedes and she said this is a clock that has never lost or gained a moment. So something very intriguing and bizarre had happened there and I'm still in the process of sort of detoxing and experiencing that and I'm now doing I'm writing this book and all of

this is happening while I'm writing it and I've been talking about uh you I don't know if you've heard me talk about orbs. Have I talked about them here on the show About these images that appear in photographs? Um no but I've seen that I've experienced a house has a book called orbs. It's a it's a it's a fascinating book and there's I think 69 or 70 photos in in there and uh I didn't even realize this cuz I had sent a copy of this book to uh to Raina because for the last oh 3

or 4 months whenever I've spoken in these audiences when I was in more than that since last summer in in Australia I was there in August uh People would come up and show me photographs that they had taken of me while I was speaking and these uh gigantic orbs and then some of them there be 20 of these orbs all around uh my uh in the photograph in some people's cameras. And then on a few occasions when I was uh doing some therapy, there was one woman that was uh pretty grossly obese, about 350 400

lb. And I had put my arms around her and I was looking into her face and explaining and talking To her about how she was going to change this and so on. And there's a huge gigantic orb right in front of me. Then I spoke in Vancouver and uh people took pictures of myself and myself and my daughter singing this song Let It Be and these beautiful big orbs that look like they almost have faces in them uh have been appearing in photographs. So I've been intrigued by that and I sent that book down to

Raina and four of the pictures that are in that book that I Didn't even have any idea of this were from uh John of God uh when he was doing surgery down there and and at Abodanya and so on. That's again a book that if you're interested in it uh and or if you're if you have photographs and if anyone has taken photographs of me speaking and you see these orbs in there, I'd like to see them because I've got about six or seven of them and I'm going to put them in this book because

the chapter that I'm writing now is the Last chapter of the book and it's about opening yourself up to all possibilities and realizing that you know there's nothing out there that is impossible if you know that. It's like it says in the New Testament, with God, all things are possible. And of course, that leaves nothing out. And it's just intriguing that this is all coming at a time when I was going to tell three stories. One of the stories is the story of the orbs that have been taking place and how they Just seem to

be surrounding me now when I'm speaking, especially when I'm speaking about this new God consciousness, this new realization that God is within each and every one of us and that we are all pieces of God. That fact, in fact, that we are all God and it's who we are. It's not these bodies. It's the spirit that we are. And as I've been speaking about that suddenly and these orbs never showed up before. So I was going to tell that story and I was Going to tell the story of going down and John of God and

this like this invisible healing that is taking place and what has happened in my body and what seems to be happening. And also another woman, her name is uh Meera Kelly. She's an attorney and she's in New York and she came to Maui and um and did a past life regression with me. And I'm not going to talk about that this week, but perhaps in a future show, I'm going to talk about some of the things That happened when I was under and in this almost coma state. And she recorded it. And I have the

uh and she's another woman from Bulgaria. And also the u book that I'm been referring to a lot is from a Bulgarian transcendent master named uh Mikuel Abanov. So three people from Bulgaria. And then I find out Raina tells me that the word Bulgaria the original word bulgars uh means not of this world or not of here. So all of that has been taking place. And that's Really amazing. That's so interesting. And I like that you said that you're, you know, you were skeptical but you're open. It's so interesting that you're being taught through your

experience, you know, like you counsel so many people and and you tell them, you know, with God all things are possible and now it's really things are really happening. Well, for some reason I have been assigned to the task of taking very complicated things and um in my whole Lifetime in all of my professional writing and making them available like self-actualization when Maslo explained it to the masses I mean to the academics uh in the world with his tortoise psychology of being is almost as if he said to me now you explain it to the

cab drivers. he passed away on the very same day that um I received my doctorate in on the 17th of June in 1970 and quantum physics this thing that I know something about but not a lot I'm not a physicist And that kind of a scientist but I've been able to make that world of the uh of the subatomic world sort of accessible to people and and with spirituality in my books on uh taking St. Francis's work and um making that available and now with God realization and higher consciousness, it just seems that it's uh

that these things like with the watch and with Raina's clock and with um these kinds of miracles that are just occurring where there's uh and and Rea keeps saying to me over and over again, "Stop being surprised. Stop being surprised. Just accept this." She said, "This is real. I've been down there several times. I know. I've been with him. I've had surgery myself and I my continuous thing is yes I I but I need to be surprised because I for some reason when I get out there to speak about this and to write about this

I need to be able to overcome the skepticism that so many people are going To have as I speak about these things and how they are impacting my life in such a big way not for me and not for this ego not for my body or whatever but because these teachings I think really need to be pulgated and that leads me into the and I've always known that the kinds of experiences that I go through in my life whether it's with my wife leaving or whether it's with living in an orphanage as a child whether

it's with getting leukemia or having heart Disease uh you know when I shouldn't be having such a thing because of the lifestyle I lead and so on and all of these kinds of things have been just uh almost the gris for the mill of the teaching that I'm here to do and to let the world know for some reason and it leads me into the thing that I really wanted to speak just a few moments about before we take calls this morning is that uh yesterday was a really a historical day in American history and

It will go down the 1st of May as the day that Osama bin Laden was killed by our troops in u by the Navy Seals in Pakistan and when I was watching it I came I was writing all day and then I came in and my daughter and my son Sans and Serena are here with me for a few weeks. Serena's writing her own book and Sansa's here to be with me and they were talking about it and they're watching the TV and this celebration was going on and so on and they said dad you're

not Don't look very happy and I said well I'm not I said this is not a cause for celebration and I sat them down and I said to them look I said uh when I wrote the book change your thoughts change your life and I I said I didn't just write a book about the daqing I lived it for an entire year I lived each one of those 81 verses which is the same number of minutes that my clock stopped and which in my past life regression I was right there with Lasu or as Lauzu.

This Number 81 just seems to be cropping up a lot. Either 81 or 18. And both of those numbers mean one infinite source. You know 8 is infinity 1 or 18. One infinite source that this number 18 in in Yiddish in or in Hebrew rather is means life. you know, and um you'll see that number appearing a lot in spiritual literature. And I said to them, I live the Dao. I lived each one of those 81 verses. And I took out the Dao Ching and I read to Them a little bit of the 31st verse,

which I want to share with the audience today. And why I don't consider this a cause for celebration. I understand it, but I think we're challenged spiritually with some of our principles. And there are two of them that I want to speak about here a bit this morning. One is out of the Dao and in the Dao it says weapons are the tools of this is the 31st verse weapons are the tools of violence. All decent men detest them. Therefore followers of the Dao never use them. Arms serve evil. They are the tools of those

who oppose wise rule. Use them only as a last resort. For peace and quiet are dearest to the decent man's heart, and to him even a victory is no cause for rejoicing. He who thinks triumph beautiful is one with a will to kill, and one with a will to kill shall never prevail upon this world. It is a good sign when man's higher nature comes forward, a bad sign when his lower Nature comes forward. With the slaughter of multitudes, we have grief and sorrow. Every victory is a funeral. When you win a war, you celebrate

by mourning. By mourning. And that's what I was doing. I was mourning because it shows it shows that we still um as a people, we haven't figured out. Lasu wrote those words 25,500 years ago. He lived in ancient China in the time of the waring states. and he was just so fed up with people killing each other And uh raiding villages and all of these kinds of things which were big part of that past life regression that Mera Kelly came and and and did with me. And when you remember when um when the World Trade

Centers went down and 3,000 people were killed and they showed pictures of people in the Muslim people around the world celebrating, you know, and we were just so outraged that how could anybody be cheering and what we sometimes forget is that we use that experience that Experience of the World Trade Center is going down which was a horrible experience. Of course it was. I knew people there was a woman that I dearly loved who was on that plane that flew into the World Trade Center. But we use that experience as an excuse to go into

a country that had nothing to do with it and bomb it and kill over 150,000 innocent people, you know, occupying this country and and the endless deaths that we and now we they they look at us On television seeing everybody putting their faces in the mirror and going USA, USA and celebrating another death. And they think that we are the great Satan just like we think that they are the great Satan. And you know each of us have our own you know shame about uh the kinds of things that we have done. And if you

want to see how we got into that war in Iraq, watch a film that I watched the other night called Fair Game with Shawn Penn and Naomi Watson. It tells The story of exactly how we went into that country knowing knowing they did not have weapons of mass destruction. Yet we still decided to go in there and occupy and fight and drop bombs on villages and and kill people after people. As it says so brilliantly in in the Dao Ching, every victory is a funeral. When you win a war, you celebrate by mourning. And my

daughter was saying to me, well, what do you do? I said, 'Well, all of these people that You see celebrating on television and looking into the cameras and and being so happy and the interviewers and everybody is just so thrilled with this wonderful victory. I said, they called themselves Christians. And um I just put this in my uh last chapter in chapter nine of my book uh which will be out later this year or early next year called wishes fulfilled. It's uh the words of Jesus and it's from the book of Luke, Luke 6:32-36. Let

me just share this with you because when it comes time to practice what Jesus was really saying in the hardest of times, we don't do that. We seek out revenge and we seek out hatred and we act from that uh that place that Lu called the low people. It is uh is one with a will to kill instead of a will to love and forgive. And in this passage from Luke, Jesus says, "If you love those who love you, what virtue lies in that? Even the morally weak love Those who love them. And if you

are good to those who are good to you, what virtue lies in that? Even the morally weak do that. Love your enemies. Be good to them. Share with them without expecting anything in return. Then your reward will be rich and you will be sons of the most high." He is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked. Be compassionate like your father. And Lasu 500 years 600 years before that said the man of Dao is kind to the kind and kind To the unkind because kindness because kindness is his nature and that's where we have to

go and that's why I believe these teachings are coming to me and what is happening to me in my life right now is for me to have kindness as my nature and to be kind not only to the kind and the ones who are nice to me, but to the unkind, to the evil, to the to the people who see us as the great Satan and we see them as the great Satan. Somehow Ultimately we as a people, if we're going to survive, have to figure out what Jesus was speaking about, what La Hut was

speaking about, and to at least if we take a victory. And I am not opposed to them going in and capturing Osama bin Laden, nor am I even opposed to the way that they did it. But the idea that this is a reason for celebration to me it's a reason for mourning. We have still demonstrated why LSU left the villages and left the Walled city and went off on his oxen to live alone in nature because he was just saying that war and using weapons is not what people of doubt do. No. And we do

have to move beyond that eye for an eye mentality. And something you said, I think it was on last week's show, a bad man is a good man's teacher. And that that stuck with me, right? Um after I after I heard you say that and and yeah, I was down at the beach yesterday and there was, you know, people coming up to Me, have you heard? And they're high-fiving me and I was like, what? What? I didn't know what happened. So I looked on my phone and uh you know, and saw the news and yeah,

I mean it just was kind of ringing a little hollow that there was all this celebration when you know what now is there going to be more more killings? you know, even with him not being there, you know, right? And there will be and and and as long as we are doing these kinds of things, it's Like it's like if you understand violence, you know, it's it's like the dandelions, remember the dandelions when they used to grow up and all those fuzz balls that were on the top of them. If you go out there with

violence and you take, let's say you take the back of your shovel and you just start slapping them and hitting them and hitting them harder and harder and harder, what happens is in the spring you have way way way more of the uh dandelions Growing because when you use violence you just promote more of that. But when you gently go through and remove them, you remove that and that's what we need to do. Okay. I just wanted to say that. So after going on. Mhm. Yes. And we will go to calls. some great people lined

up here waiting to speak with you. I'm so glad you mentioned uh what you spoke about today. Very, very powerful. Dr. Dyer, just you know, listening to what you were saying in the in the last Segment and uh kind of thinking about that over the break, just you know, we really are on the uh the cusp or or a shift of of a major transition just everything that's been going on over the past few months and then now this latest thing with Osama bin Laden. It's uh it's really an amazing time to to be on

the planet right now, I think. M it is there's six or seven billion of us and um we're divided just like we are in Congress between uh the Republicans and The Democrats where we just we can't figure out a way to get anything done because all we do is just carp at each other and try to make the other person look bad and and make themselves look right. And on the planet we've got this major divide as well. And uh we really um if we don't figure it out in my estimation if we don't figure

it out then life on this planet just simply will not be allowed to flourish any longer. it will end. It will be the Road. If you've seen The Road, Cormarmac McCarthy's uh great book, which was one of the most intriguing things I ever read about uh what the world would look like after a a nuclear holocaust. We must figure this out, that the answer still is in love, not in celebrating other people's uh demise. Yeah, absolutely. Well, we've got some great callers stacked up here from all over the place. Really interesting calls today. So, uh,

let's start off, uh, in Hong Kong, which seems like an interesting place to go. Anita online too. Oh my goodness. I think I know who this is. You do? Is this Anita? Yes, it is. I couldn't resist calling you. This is another miracle. This is This is Anita M, the woman I've talked about on this show so many times, who's now going to become a Hay House author who had her near-death experience. I listened to your radio interview there. Oh my good. You were sent to me by Mera Kelly, the one I just talked about

who did the past life forget. Oh my god. How are you? Wow. I'm very well. I can't believe I'm talking to you. I'm I'm thrilled. I am uh I just love you and I what you did on that near-death experience. I am uh you're going to you're signed with Hay House now. Is that right? You're going to become a Hay House author. Yes. Yes. I'm so happy. I'm, you know, I'm Mhm. I'm going to write the forward to your book if you Would like me to do that. And um I love it and I want

to bring you to America and put you on my public television special so that you can tell the world about what happened when you had 36 hours to live and were told that you had lymphoma all throughout your body and you had this experience. Tell my audience, I'm so honored to have you here. tell my audience a little bit about what happened when with that experience. It just blows me away. I'm Just sitting here. This is like a miracle of miracles. Even that Diane would take your call. I didn't know you were on the line,

Diane. You just picked up. You can't even You've heard me speak about this. I know. And it's funny when you had that you recognized the caller. I just saw Anita from Hong Kong and I just thought it would be cool to go to Hong Kong. That's great. Oh my goodness. Anita, tell I want to I think I might take the rest of the show with this or At least another 10 minutes or so. Tell my audience what happened and uh and what your experience was. You you've said it so beautifully in uh in in what

you had wrote about. I can't wait to see your book. I just uh I'm so happy about this. Oh, thank you. I'm I'm really thrilled to speak to you. Um well, what happened to me was that I had cancer. I had lymphoma which spread throughout my body. And it spread like from the base of my skull, you know, all over the Lymph nodes all over my neck and my body, under my arms, everywhere, all the way down to my abdomen were all swollen. In fact, I had tumors. I was told that I had tumors the

size of lemons all through my body. And um I had cancer for about three years and eight months. It seemed to go up and down in between because I was practicing ioveda and then it would get better but then it would come back especially I noticed now looking back at the pattern that when I Used to be really really fearful that's when my health would get weaker but about in the end of 2005 around December of 2005 I went and had a full body scan and the doctor told my husb husband. They didn't tell me,

but the doctor told my husband that I only had about 3 months at best at that time. By that point, my muscles had already deteriorated. I was confined to a wheelchair and um I had open skin Lesions. And by February the 2nd, uh 2006, I was on oxygen. Um, you know, I had an oxygen tank and I was being cared for at home by a full-time nurse. But on February the 2nd, the morning of February the 2nd, 2006, I went into a coma. So my husband, he was freaking out and he called the doctor and

the doctor said to rush me to the hospital right away. When I got to the hospital, the doctors said that it was over, that it was too late, that these were my final Hours and I probably wouldn't come out of the coma at all. And that was when I Mhm. Go ahead. No, I you you speak so eloquently, I don't even want to interfere. You uh But you died. I mean, you essentially um went into what we call an NDE, but um your body just shut down and uh you were and while you were in

the coma, you were hearing things and seeing things at this time. Tell my audience about this. Yes, I could hear and see everything that was Going on around me because the doctors had told my family that my organs had already shut down and basically I had died and uh they said although my heart was still beating but I had died that there was nobody in there. But I was aware of everything that was going on around me. Everything that the doctors were saying, everything that they were doing, the needles that they were poking into me.

They were telling my husband that I had fluid in the lungs. And they Said that and then even though, you know, I was like in a coma, my breathing was quite labored and I was on oxygen. So the doctor even stuck a needle into my back to remove some fluid. And I remember every single thing and including I became aware of things beyond beyond my body. I was aware of my brother getting on a plane who had who was just coming to see me and I then started to become aware of my father who had

passed away 10 years before that. I Was aware that he was around me. my best friend who I'd lost to cancer, she was there and I could sense that they had been around me this whole time while I was ill. And um then I started to understand I started to understand why I had the cancer and I started to understand that it wasn't my time and I had a choice of whether I wanted to come back into my body or to continue into death. At first, I didn't want to come back into my body because

my body was Just so sick. And it was so amazing on the other side. It was there are no words to describe it. And I still get a bit tearful when I think about it because there's just no words to describe it. It's like this unconditional love and this you feel this clarity of like you know why you're here, what your purpose is, why you've come into this planet. That's how I felt. I felt like I just understood everything, my purpose for this life, Why I'd got the cancer. And then I seemed to understand that

if I chose to go back to my body now that I understood, then I wouldn't have the cancer anymore. or if I chose to go back and live, the cancer wouldn't be there in my body because now I understood why I even had the cancer. Yes. You said something about um that you realize that you not only do we have a physical body, but we have like an energy body or a spiritual body and that The illnesses that show up in our bodies are preceded by these and if we could heal this energy body or

the spiritual body, if we could heal that, then that would take care of the physical body. and that there was a sense that um that you knew that you could do this and when you returned to your body that it would no longer have cancer, something to that effect. Is that correct? Yes, that's exactly correct. Because I became fully aware when I was on the other side that The cancer in the body, it's not the body, it's the cancer is actually caused because we energetically we don't realize the amazing magnificence of who we truly are.

At least I didn't realize who I truly am. You know, basically I am a part of God and we all are. We are all God. But but I didn't realize it. I was going through the planet as if I wasn't as if I was just this physical human being. But when I realized what I had access to, when I Realized the energy, the power that was behind me, I realized that it was just blocking that, not being aware of that or blocking that off is what can cause your body to manifest all kinds of things.

But the awareness of who I truly am. If I am aware of that, then my body will also reflect that. Do you illness doesn't start at the body. Go ahead. Yes. I was just going to say that illness doesn't start at the physical body. It starts at a much Deeper level. And that's the only level we need to work with because if we just work with the physical body, we're only dealing with the symptoms. And the physical body is just sending us signals or messages with these symptoms to tell us that there's something deeper going

on that we have to work with. You said something very profound in that. I mean that that thing that you sent me, I've had it copied oh maybe 50 times. Each one of my children has it and I've Talked about it on this show. I've quoted it in my book. I mean words that you just used I've already put directly into the book and quoted you from it. You said that one of the interviewers asked you about past lives and you said that it didn't seem like there was any past that there was talk can

you talk a little bit about what that was like that that experience of no time and it was you I think you used the word parallel lives rather than past lives. Yes. I was brought up to believe in past lives and reincarnation because my parents are Hindu and that's what I was brought up to believe. But when I was in the other realm and it seemed as though everything was happening simultaneously, I was aware of other lives with my brother and uh with my husband and my husband and I are very close. But it didn't

seem like past lives. It seemed as though it was happening simultaneously, but it seemed Like everything was happening simultaneously. So when I came back into my body and I started to recall and started to talk about it, it was very difficult putting things into sequence because it felt as though when we're on the other side, there's no time or time is not linear. It's like everything's happening at the same time, including what we call past lives. It's as though while we're expressing here through our physical bodies, we put things into Linear time with our minds.

Our minds need to do that so that we can understand and it makes things more coherent or manageable for us. Our mind filters things and we actually process everything one point of time at a time and create linear time. But on the other side, it doesn't feel like that at all. It feels as though everything's happening at once. And even it's as though we are aware of everything that's happening all around us. It's not like You turn your head when you're in your physical body and you look at something and you can focus on something.

It's not like that. It's like you're aware of everything that's happening around you at all time and all all around you. And what role does love play in this? Did you hear me uh speak the first half hour of the show? Were you listening? Yes. And I completely agree with you. You know, it's interesting because even when I heard that Osama bin Laden had been Killed, I was thinking something very, very similar. I was thinking that the world is rejoicing, but I'm not sure it's something to rejoice about because all we did is perpetuate more

killing. And that's what I was thinking. really. And he said something like when you came back that the great lesson that you learned from this experience and then we'll talk about your healing was to treasure your own magnificence and the magnificent those were your words to Treasure your magnificence and to realize that you are pure pure love. Did you feel that when you were like experiencing like the doctors for example? I remember you saying you could hear the doctors actually talking about you know that you weren't going to survive this and all this. You could

literally But you felt love for them rather than uh disdain or worry or anger or Yes. I felt love for everyone. Even the the every single doctor, everybody. I just somehow it was like I became them. It was like I understood that they were all doing. It's not a feeling. It's like I became one with them and I could feel what they were feeling. They were feeling they had to do something and they were doing what they knew best how to do and their intention was good. It's like suddenly you can feel everybody's intention. Not

what they're actually doing, not the end result, but their intention. And I could feel what Everyone was feeling. Every nurse that came in, everything I just everything when I came out of it, everything just looked so beautiful. It was like I was viewing the world and viewing everybody for the first time. That's what I've been talking about. And it's happened for me in the last I don't know the last 6 months, eight months or so. There's nothing that I can look at. I can look at the wall and uh just love the wall. I mean,

I could look at a vacuum cleaner And love a vacuum cleaner. It's just such an an amazing Do you know who John of God is? Have you heard of John of God down in Brazil? I hadn't until you spoke about him. This is the first I've heard of him and he sounds amazing. Yes, it's the same kind of thing. How long were you um were you in the coma? How long were you quote uh in that NDE or literally dead? About 20 hours. It was overnight. It was I went into the hospital one morning on

February the 2nd and started to come out of it the next morning on February the 3rd. And you had been told that you had I mean your husband had been told that you had maybe another day or so at the very most. Is that correct? at the most. Yeah. The the doctors said that I wouldn't even make it through the night because my organs had now shut down and this was the final stages and um and it's written in my medical file as well that they've informed the family that This is the end. Okay. So,

there were like literally to use your there were billions and billions of cancer cells in your body and it was shutting down. All right. And then you awoke. And tell us then, you know, in in the last five minutes, so what happened after that and what's going on now? How why are you talking to us now? Why are you alive? Mhm. Well, I know one of the reasons you're alive is because your story is aligned With me. You are so aligned with me. I really feel like I know you. I don't know if you even

know who I am or what I had done uh any of my work before this. I do. I'm a fan of yours. It's funny because I do know who you are. I think you're amazing. I was thrilled when I got the email. I feel that, you know, I mean, this is my purpose was probably to meet you because what happened is that it was my birthday six weeks ago and on my birthday day is when I got the email From Hay House saying that you had pointed them to my story. And when I looked at

that email and it said that, you know, if I was to publish a book that Hay House wanted to help me and and I looked at the email and I started crying and I couldn't believe it. I'm still thrilled I'm talking to you. While I was reading that, I thought this is a story that the world has to know. I predict that you're um you know, it is it's not As about selling books. It's not about that. is that you are going to be one of the emissaries uh like I think I have been selected

to to really show the world that you know what I sent your story to my mother my mother is what 95 years old on April the 21st and I sent that to her and she thinks about death a lot because she's in a place she's in an assisted living center where she sees people you know they're alive one day and they're not the next and she wonders About it we talk about it I sent her that she has had nothing but peace since she read that my sister-in-law who had a similar experience to you in

1971 was in a head-on collision and watched them working on her body just she just said this confirms everything that that had happened to her. You have helped so many people just through that just through me. But what your message is going to be to this world is we have to love each other. And when we do that's really what It means to live God consciousness. It doesn't mean to recite the right words and go to church on Sunday. It's it's to live it. So you came back because our time is going to be running

out soon. You came back uh you you awoke a awoke and what happened? What uh tell us? Well, when I came back, I was euphoric because it's like I had this awakening although I was a bit groggy and it for the first couple of days I didn't it was like I had one foot on each side. I was Getting things confused. I was talking and um everyone was really surprised that I even woke woke up. And when the doctor came in to see me, this was the oncologist that I had never seen before. My own

doctor hadn't come in yet. And the doctor came in, this was the one at the hospital who'd never seen me before except when I entered as a coma. And he walked in and I said to him, "Good morning, Dr. Chan." And he said to me, "How do you know my name?" And I said, "Aren't you the one that was there when I entered the hospital?" And he said, "Yes, but you've been in a coma." And I said, "Are you sure?" Now, I didn't even realize I'd been in a coma because I was so aware of

everything that was going on around me. And I said, "But you're the one that put the needle in my back and took the fluid out of my lungs." And he said, "You remember all that?" He was visibly very, very surprised. And um, you know, and then he was also surprised That I had come out of the coma. So, but I I was still weak and lying down. And so then when he left the room, I started to say to my family like, "Why was he so surprised?" And uh he's the one that you that that

said to you, he said, "Now I said to my husband, he's the one that said to you that these are my last hours that I'm not going to make it through the night." Is isn't he the one that said that? And my husband said, "How did you even hear that? He didn't even say That in front of you. He said it outside the room down the corridor." And I said, "Really?" And so then it all started to come out slowly. And um I was still very very weak, but in about 48 hours or so, they

were like removing the oxygen and then they started to take out the food tube and I wanted to sit up and I was feeling really euphoric because if I describe the feeling specifically, it's deeper than just loving everything. It's realizing that you are love. And it's For me it was like a new realization. I'd never known that before. I used to think that I had to learn to be loving to other people and would always judge myself. Am I loving enough? Am I not loving enough? But being in that experience, what I realized is that

I am love. I cannot not be. I quoted that. I quoted that in my new book. Uh those words that you just said. So how um six um in six months or so what happened? I mean are you were you cancer free? Did How what how did the doctor doctors explain it? I was Yes. Well, what they did was that after I came out of the NDE after every test that they did after the NDE they could not find any trace of cancer. They would not believe there was no cancer. So they continued to give

me drugs but they did a little Anita, I just got a notice. We just have a minute left. Where are you today? Is your body cancer free? Yes, it is. It's completely cancer free. You know, I'm I'm doing I Don't know if you've heard or look on the website. I'm doing a taking a group of people to Lurards Aisi and Magigoria. If there's any possibility that you and your husband could get on that trip, it's June 19th to the 29th, I'd love you to be on it. I have to close out. I'm so sorry. This

has been the greatest show I've done in 5 years. Thank you for calling. I can't wait to meet you and write your forward and have you on my PBS show and tell the world about you. I Love you. Hello everybody and thanks for joining us for the show Wishes Fulfilled with Dr. Wayne Dyer. And we just opened up the phone lines and Dr. Wayne Dyer is joining us from Maui after a very busy couple of weeks. Let's grab somebody. So let's start in Portland and go to Jeanie on line one and she's in Portland, Oregon.

Hi Jeie. Hello. Hi. How are you? I'm great, thanks. How are you, my dear? I am good. Thank you for taking my call. You're very welcome. So, I'm in the Middle of writing a book and I guess genre wise it's kind of a wellness memoir and I, you know, it started out I was going to write a whole different book really about listening to your intuition and it still is hugely about that and following it and letting you know that inner guidance from above let that lead your life and how it brings you through life

and you know a lot of what to basically I think teach but through my story and um you know when I Was young I was like 17 when I started writing letters to God and each time I wrote you know I felt so much better and then I would take him and just immediately go burn him in the fireplace and when I was 25 my brother died and I actually bought a hard coverver book and started writing in that and just couldn't bear to throw what I had written away so now 27 years later 41

journals later. I'm writing this and I did go down to Hay House and take their Workshop and Jennifer Grace, who I think you might know is um doing a book proposal class. I'm doing that and I'm following what she's saying to do to get this book proposal done. And it's just I'm having a we were what little gist of the story is I was married for 26 years, had a really beautiful life. We were kind of the nucleus of our family, our friends, nieces, nephews, and then my husband went went and had an affair with

a 27 year old girl, which was my our Oldest daughter's age. So, we were just broken apart. And if you can imagine a spiderweb, you know, we were the center. Now, it's this there's all this brokenness. And as I'm going and reading through my journals to write my book because I've actually have a beautiful life now and it haven't it's been two years since my divorce almost to today I think which is weird and I love I have a really beautiful life but everyone else I feel Like is my family my nieces my nephews friends

they're all still back in they're trying to wrap their head around what even happened in the first place and there's still all this brokenness and it's almost like it I'm I'm at this point of writing where I need a little release somehow. I don't know if you ever wrote something that you know you're going back and reading and having a lot of awareness and writing it and it's hard to write. How do you push yourself forward through that? And I think the way to do that, uh, Jeie, is to see the this 27year-old person that

your husband had an affair with, as a gift from God, as a teacher. Like, I mean, I I did a film called My Greatest Teacher, which was really the story of of my relationship and trying to find my father. And I it turns out that uh what he did when I was a young boy and all of his uh horrible crass behavior and so on uh were really the Impetus for my uh being able to reach to higher and higher levels that uh and while you're reviewing that and looking at that in your writing and

so on, instead of coming at it from a place of brokenness, come at it from a place of completeness of that uh and realize that she was sent into into your life probably to help you to uh first of all get to that place of freedom that you feel now for you know uh as a result of it and and secondly to to help you to um To look back upon it as you write about it uh not from a place a place of uh oh this is terrible it shouldn't have happened which is what

so many of your family members are doing but from a place of gratitude of being in a space of gratitude and write from that place of gratitude and allow the divine guidance that that brings to you you know to come to you and to and to flow through you and you'll watch your writing you watch cuz when I wrote I can See clearly now and I really encourage you to read that if when it comes out. Yes, I hear I keep wanting to hear it and especially in terms of what you were asking me about

right now because I did a lot of reliving as I went through that and and I began to write from first I started right from that place of the pain and the hurtfulness like when my wife and I separated or you know when I found out I had leukemia when I was living in an orphanage and you know all Of the kinds of things that just have just been benchmarks in my life and I would find myself just feeling much more spiritual much much more peaceful when I looked at it as gifts rather than so

going back to the phones. Let's see where should we go? Let's go to Kelly in Kansas City, Missouri on line three. And Kelly, welcome to the show. You're on with Dr. Wayne Dyer today. Hello. Thank you. Hi, Kelly. My call. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm Great, thanks. Thanks. Well, I just had a question. I know you've talked about your father and how you forgave him. I've heard the story a few times um that you told it. What I'm wondering is I've been to that place kind of well actually it's with my

husband and you know just things from the past. Okay, we need to get over it and I really feel like I've forgiven and it's over and let's move on and then something will happen maybe a few weeks later. You know, he'll he has A very bad temper sometimes. So, um, you know, that will come on again and you know, the past 15 years of everything that I thought I forgave is all right back in my face. And I just so angry and um, he can just really be very sweet and nice and then turn on

a dime and just um, my children are starting to be affected by it. my oldest child is, you know, to the point where she doesn't even want to be around him and um it's very a lot of anger out. So, yeah. Is There alcohol at all involved? No, not really. No, I mean, actually, no, not at all. Every once in a while, you know, drink, but nothing, you know, no alcohol. this temper thing was it when you first met um before you were even married and when you were you know in that early stage of

uh you know what did you ever see that surface actually when I look back yes I mean it's always been like this and I think I had such low self-esteem that I just took it and I've Kind of gotten over that you know worked on myself and it it's not quite as it's it seems like it has dissipated but it's a lot of times has now turned on my oldest daughter so now I know exactly how she feels. I mean, she loves him, but in in another way, she just hates him. Does it ever go

beyond just words? Yeah. Not really too physical, but just like pushing maybe once or twice. Um Mhm. but just very can be very very mean and just even when he's not really Angry, just little jabs and just what was his what real quickly? What was his relation in in a sentence or two? What was his relationship like to his father? His father, he really got along good up until recently and now they still get along but he it drives him crazy. pretty much everybody drives him crazy. But yeah, his father was the way he describes

him was nothing. Very easygoing, happy, and now there was some alcohol involved with that, but very Happy kind of a person, right? Okay. So, what you're looking for, and we only have a few minutes, so it's like what you're looking for is a way to deal with and live with someone who's got a bit of I mean, bipolar is too strong a word because it sounds too technical and too diagnostic and so on, but basically that's what you're talking about. someone who can just be on an even kill, can be up, can be happy and

so on and then something can trigger it and off he Can go. And for some reason he has come to believe that he has uh the right to abuse uh the people around him especially the people that love him and care the most about him. Is that correct? That is very correct. Yes. And he can do that with words and just an occasional pushing and so on but uh just launch into one of those kinds of things. So what you need to understand is something I wrote about in my second book for the public uh

many many of you Called pulling your own strings which I would recommend you read by the way. It's called pulling your own strings. And basically my theory on all of this is that you get treated in life the way you teach people to treat you. So that rather than putting it on him cuz if you're waiting for him to change in order for you to be happy, you might just be consigning yourself to the role of victim for the rest of your life. So what you want to do is stop teaching him That it's okay

for him to even if he has his you know all the reasons within him to be able to you know this person is wrong his own father drives him crazy his daughter drives him crazy you drive him crazy whatever it might be and he thinks that it's somebody else that is doing all of this to him he is basically just uh reacting that way cuz I guarantee you that he wouldn't if I were at your home and a guest in your home he wouldn't do that to me he wouldn't yell At me there are lots

and lots of places where He absolutely knows how to control himself when he's frustrated. I mean, I'm sure he doesn't do that at work or not very often because he wouldn't be at work if he did. So, he really has within him the tools to know how to suppress that and to just overlook and but when it comes to certain people, he just has given himself the right to do that. And the only reason he's got the right to do that is because you've given him Permission to do it for whatever reason in whatever form

that you've given that permission. I know you don't want it. I know that you're, you know, it's not something that you're looking for, but you have taught him that you're willing to treat. So, what you want to do is embark on a program to teach him that kind of behavior is no longer tolerable in your life that you've taught him that you're willing to put up with that in whatever way that you have done it over The years. And same with your daughter and same with your father-in-law. But um now what you're going to do

is teach him something new so that when he the next time that he does this and has one of these outbursts and so on. I would talk about it with him when he's not in one of those places, you know, right? When you're having dinner or whatever and just say that I have decided that I'm not going to uh you know in when you have one of those emotional breakdowns And so on and start yelling at either me or our children or whomever that I'm not going to put up with that anymore. It causes me

too much pain. And I just want you to know that what I'm going to do is when I see it surfacing is I'm going to leave. I'm going to leave the premises. No matter how inconvenient it is, no matter what it is, I'm going to not stay in the presence and allow you to do that. And I'm going to also tell my our daughter that uh that's what she's going To do as well. And when he even when you see it just beginning to surface, you stand up and you just say, "Excuse me, I'm just

not going to be here right now." And you leave. You lock yourself in the bathroom. You go to the car. You go, you know, drive yourself someplace. you walk out of the house, whatever it may, no matter how embarrassing it may be, now you're going to fundamentally change the way that you teach this man to treat you. Ultimately, if he, you Know, gets even worse, then you just say, "Okay, I just don't choose to live under these conditions any longer, and um I'm going to get divorced or I'm going to separate. I'm no longer willing

to be the victim of a person who knows how to control these things under certain circumstances, but chooses not to when he's with me and our family. It's a choice that he is making. Not that he got a personality defect that he can't control. Unless he's just going Around doing this to strangers and things like that. And it doesn't sound like that's completely the opposite with other people. Other people that know him wouldn't believe that in a minute. They'd think he's the greatest, nicest guy. And I would I also I might even play this back

to him. What um you know, cuz you can get you can go online and uh I mean this will play all week this show and you might even play it for him. you know, this is like I called in, you Know, nobody knows your name or anything and this was the question I had and this was the respon and and and I'm going to try and this is what I'm going to do. Does that sound sensible to you or something that you could do or Yes, it does. Yeah. It's it's almost like I needed somebody

to say it because it's kind of what I was thinking in the back of my mind like I can't just sit here and Yeah. and listen and do. See, I I did I raised my children this way. I Always told them if they would raise their voice or if they'd get frustrated, they'd yell at their mother. They yell at me or whatever it might be. And children do these things and teenagers do these things and so on. And if they would ever direct those kinds of comments towards me, I would just put up my hand.

I'd say, "Wait a minute. We'll hold it right there. I have too much respect for myself to allow anybody to talk to me in that fashion. It isn't Because I think you're so bad. It's just like this is such an affront to who I am that I'm no longer going to allow this to do." When I when I would raise my put my hand up to like put a stop to that, they would stop. They No, dad doesn't put up with this because he respects himself. Now, mom has got to respect herself enough to be

willing to do this because, you know, it's ultimately going to lead down an even worse road. It's going to as long as he knows that he can Get away with this and you're going to stick around, it'll continue, right? And you can do this very nicely and very shortly. When when you he starts behaving it, you just get up. you go, you go get in the car, drive uh go go for a walk, what go into the bathroom if you can't, you know, just lock the door in there and just stay, you know, until it's

until it's over with. And you'll you'll teach him very very quickly that this is not something that I'm willing To tolerate for one reason and one reason only. I have too much respect for myself to allow anybody to talk disrespectfully to me. That's my advice. Well, thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate that. I think I Yeah, I know exactly what what I what you're saying. Yeah. And by the way, when you change the atmosphere like that and do that, you will impact him. If you react with anger to yourself and allow, you know, get

get into arguments and tell him I Don't want to do this and you have, you know, you may have things that just get that come out that you don't want to come out. You know, you have to remember that if you know, you impact, you don't eliminate darkness in your life. And this is darkness that you're talking about. You don't eliminate darkness by throwing more darkness at it. You eliminate it by throwing light at it. And that's what I'm asking you to do. Throw light at it. Like teach him, I'm Not going to allow myself

to be placed into this darkness any longer. And uh it's like the line I've said so many times on this show over the years that uh you know when Jesus would walk into a village just his presence in the village and nothing more would change the elevate the consciousness of everyone in the village. You can elevate the consciousness of the people in your home by being a being of love and a being who refuses to allow this kind of behavior Because you you know it's uh it's darkness coming at light and light will always end

darkness but darkness never ends light. Right. Okay. Okay. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, my dear. God bless you. In Kansas City, what's the temperature there? Oh, about 12. About 12. Maybe if I'm lucky. Yeah. I try not to go out there today. So, well, thanks for calling. I love I love talking to you and I I hope that helps. Oh, it does Immensely. You don't even know. So, thank you so much. Thank you, dear. God bless you. Namaste. And let's see if we can get to a few other people. Some really good calls

today. Interesting questions. And let's go to Janette on line 8 and she's calling from New Jersey. Hi, Dr. Dyer. I'm so excited to hear your voice today. And we're where it's snowing here in Monontlair, New Jersey. We're stuck in the house. The kids are outside enjoying the snow. So, I'm so excited we connected this today. I am too. It's great to hear from you in New Jersey. Listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna close all the lanes down to all the bridges in your state. What is that? What do you think? Oh, no. Oh, boy. That would

be that. That poor guy is really He's really dealing with it now, isn't he? Oh, he sure is. They're all coming out now. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But my question is, I uh just closed my uh toy store in October, and I've always Read all of your books, have seen all your PBS specials, and have been trying to practice more and more what you talk about. And lately, um, I wanted to ask, how do you know when like you're actually connected to source? I just sometimes I'm I know it's a wonderful warm feeling, but I I

wanted to hear your description of it when you do sit and meditate and actually connect. Well, the truth is you're always connected. What you have to ask yourself Is what direction am I going? I mean, who you are, who all of us are, our source energy, we we have it within us. But the problem is that we walk away from it, you know. Um, but you it's like you can't walk away from what you are and what you are has a spark of God in you. And the best way to know that when it isn't

ego because ego is the part, you know, it's like there there's two forces. The cabala teaches us that there are two forces. There's the force of uh Light and there's a force of dark. And um it's all the same force. I mean but but ba basically it's like what direction is it going when it is moving towards oh hatred and bitterness and anger and judgment and resentment and fear and anxiety and stress and and pain and so on when you are moving in that direction it's still and I believe this and have written about this

myself that um it's still love but it's moving away from away from your source here's how I Look at it and then there's the other direction when you're moving toward it so it's like just picture the hands of a clock okay and at the top is the there's two hands on the clock. Okay, there's a minute hand and the hourhand and you're born at when both of them are right at the 12, right? So, you can get a little metaphor of this in your mind. So, now the the not the hourhand, but the minute hand

starts moving in the direction of towards, you know, away from its source. The hour hand stays there. That's your source. And you are now moving. So, you go past the one and you go past the two and you're moving away from your from your source. So this whole side all the way down to the six is each minute that goes by or each hour, however you want to call it, that goes by. As you hit the two and as you hit the three, four, five, this is all movement away from what you where you originated.

You originated from a source of love, of Perfect love, a source of what we call oneness, which means there's no opposites. The opposite of joy when you're in the ego state is sadness. But uh when you're in divine love, there's no opposite of joy. Everything is just joy, but you're not there cuz you're moving away. You're moving away until you get to the six. And now you're at the six. And this is when you're furthest away from your source. This is when you're at the lowest point in your Life. This is when you feel that

you've fallen as far as you can go. The anger, the hurt, the resentment, the pain is so deep there. And now you have a choice. You can either stay. You've moved away. Moved away. Move. Taken on all this ego. believe that who you are is all the stuff that you own and all the people that you're mad at and all the judgments that you have towards others. But now you're at six. Now you can either stay there because the hand doesn't go Backwards. It won't go back to the five four. It doesn't work that way.

You have to now start coming the other way. Now you're going to the seven and the eight. And now you're coming home. And it's when you're on this side, when you're coming home, back to where you originated from, you're heading back towards perfect love. And divine love is the kind of love that was your origination point. And this is when you know that you're connected. It's not Whether you're there perfect because as long as you're in a human body, there's going to be some separation. There's going to be opposites. And as long as you're on

this planet, there's going to be east and west and north and south and up and down and male and female and good and bad. All of these dichotoies that we all experience and these paradoxes. But ultimately when you get back to the 12, when you rejoin it, what happens is you fuse these dichotoies and you're in a Place where there's only love. There's no opposite. And as you start to look out at the world and see people behaving in certain ways, you still have only have love because that's all that you are as you're connecting

yourself back. And you'll find yourself slipping when you're at the eight and when you're at the nine, at the 10. But the closer you get to reuniting yourself with your source of being, the more that you will experience just, you know, feelings of Bliss and love and kindness and joy. And when you're not, it's probably because you've got thoughts of judgment and criticism and condemnation towards some of God's children or go or some of the creations that we have or that you run into. And when you get rid of the judgment and the condemnation and

the criticism, you're at the seven and you're coming home. So the question isn't whether or not you know you're with your source. The question is what Direction are you moving? Are you moving away from what you originated from because when you originated I just saw something that's gone viral on the internet that my kids sent me. I'm thinking about posting it. I did post it on my Facebook page. It's of a little baby and um this baby is laughing at about a dog that somebody's throwing popcorn at this little dog and the baby's maybe seven

or eight months old if that. And it's just laughing. It's Just so just it can't stop laughing. It's like it's like it's at such bliss that it's this laughter laughter. It's a and it's like you know William Werdsworth a very famous English poet said that uh our birth is but asleep and of forgetting heaven lies about us in our infancy and knowing that you're with source is remembering who you are remembering where you came from knowing that you don't you know when you came into this world you had no judgment you Just you know you

just were here and you were just accepting and and your mom put her breast in your mouth and you were just content and happy and gurgling and all of that and then you took on this ego and then you started starting to believe and then comparing yourself and trying to be better than other people, trying to accumulate more stuff than other people. All of this is movement away and now you start coming home and you become more and more like God, which Is really just where you become a being of sharing because that's what God

is. You know, God just offers us everything in the universe. Whatever it is, this source that we came from, it's just a source of abundance and it doesn't ask for anything in return. and it just allows anything to be. And the more and more you find yourself doing those things, that's when you know you're reconnecting or at least you're heading back to the source. And when you Ultimately get back to the 12, this is when you just shed your body. And um we call it death, but this is the this is the place that uh

we call immortality. That's what uh Emily Dickinson called it. She says like because I could not stop for death, he kindly stopped for me. the carriage held by just ourselves and immortality. This is when you start to realize that who you are is this, you're not a human being having a spiritual Experience. It's the other way around. You're this infinite spiritual being with a soul who's just having a little temporary human experience. And the closer and closer you get back to the 12, um, the more you know you're with source. Long answer, but it's uh

I hope that made sense. No, it did. Beautiful. Thank you so much. Oh, God bless you, dear. Thanks for calling today. And we we have just a minute, but I think time for one quick one. Uh slide. Oh, I Didn't realize it was that close. Okay. Yeah, just three minutes. So, let's grab Kent real quick from Toronto. He's online, too, and has been very patient holding. And Kent, we have just a few minutes, but you're on with Dr. Dyer. Oh, hi. Thank you. Hey, Kent. Hi. How are you? I'm actually not in Toronto. I was

I was in uh to come and see you in Maui in in Divine Love last weekend, which I really enjoyed. Oh, I'm so glad. What did you think? It was great. And Then uh so I'm just staying with some friends in Honolulu. So I'm still enjoying your weather for now and then I'm going to go back to my 25 soon. But no, I loved it because because with say Scarlet and Iliza, they were talking about forgiveness, which kind of reminded me to forgive myself and forgive others. And then with Anita and Mary, they were talking

more about uh you know, reminding me who I really am, which is divine love. So anyway, it was Just great. It was just a great atmosphere. I really enjoyed. Uh, do you have still the hangover effect of it? Is it that do you are you still feeling it? Because it's been over a week for me and I've just been walking around a wash in like I'm in a bowl of soup, you know, that is called love. I mean, everything I look at just it really impacted me that way. Yeah. No, it's it's it's just very

Yeah. like a joyful state or a blissful state or just say constantly Reminding me who I really am. So, not like I just loved the the prior caller when you were talking about when I find myself in anger, frustration to remind myself of compassion and kindness and joyfulness and uh it takes me to another place. So, uh and I was when you said about that chapter 16, I I reread Mary's chapter 16 and it's such a great reminder of who we really are. It makes me tingle when I read it. Right. It was Yeah. It's

called Out of the Blue and Hay House. Uh I talked to Reed and uh who's a president of A House and he's agreed that we're going to publish it. We're going to help her get the first parts of it uh edited, but um yeah, it's very very powerful. Yeah, it's very seldom that I ever Go ahead. No, I was just going to say I'm looking forward to that. I I I came to see you in San Diego the taping of uh I Can See Clearly Now, so I'm looking forward to seeing that. I'll probably see

myself in the audience Next week. Uh you will definitely. Yeah. Yeah, that was very good, too. So, uh Oh, well, that was I wanted to thank you. I had a great weekend. It was very enjoyable and uh it was Yeah. a great feeling. So, I just wanted to thank you for put Thank you for putting that on. I'm Yeah, I'm so happy that you were there. Thank you very much. Yeah. Well, well, thank you very much. I'm so glad to hear from someone uh who was actually there and and to see if it had the

Leftover effect that it's had on me. You know, I just I'm just seeing love everywhere. Even in my sore neck, I'm seeing love. What about that? I think I got a sore neck, too. So I'll have to look for the love in that too. Yeah, but that's wanted to quickly call and thank you very much for that weekend. Well, I thank you and I appreciate it. God bless you, my friend. Very good. Some great callers and we will connect next week. I hope so. Dr. Wayne Dyer joining us in Maui. Dr. Dyer, it's great to

chat with you. Thank you. It's good to be here. So, my brother sent me just before we get take calls, I just want to read this uh he sent me something that he was writing. My brother's a veteran and he was in Vietnam. One day, a teacher asked her students to list the names of the other students in the room on two sheets of paper, uh, leaving a space between each name. Then she told them to think of the Nicest thing that they could say about each and every one of their classmates and to write

it down. It took the remainder of the class period to finish their assignment, and as the students left the room, each one handed in the papers. That Saturday, the teacher wrote down the names of each student on a separate sheet of paper and listed what everyone else had said about that individual. On Monday, she gave each student his or her list. The entire Class was smiling. Really, she heard whispered, "I never knew I meant uh so much to anyone, and I didn't know others liked me so much." Were most of the comments. No one ever

mentioned those uh papers in class again. She never knew if they discussed them after class or with their parents, but it didn't matter. The exercise had accomplished its purpose. The students were happy with themselves and one another. That group of students moved on. Several years later, one of The students was killed in Vietnam, and his teacher attended the funeral of that special student. She had never seen a serviceman in a military coffin before. He looked so handsome, so mature. The church was packed with his friends. One by one, those who loved him took a last

walk by the coffin. The teacher was the last one to bless the coffin. As she stood there, one of the soldiers who acted as a pawbearer came up to her. "Were you Mark's math teacher?" he Asked. She nodded. "Yes." Then he said, "Mark talked about you a lot." After the funeral, most of Mark's former classmates went together for a lunchon. Mark's mother and father were there, obviously waiting to speak with the teacher. "We want to show you something," his father said, taking a wallet out of his pocket. "They found this on Mark when he was

killed. We thought you might recognize it." Opening the billfold, he carefully removed two Worn pieces of notebook paper that had obviously been taped, folded, and refolded many times. The teacher knew without looking that the papers were the ones on which she had listed all the things each of Mark's classmates had said about him. "Thank you so much for doing that," Mark's mother said. "As you can see, Mark treasured it." All of Mark's former classmates started to gather around. Charlie smiled rather sheepishly and said, "I still have my List. It's in the top drawer of my

desk at home." Chuck's wife said, "Chuck asked me to put this in our wedding album." "I have mine, too," Marilyn said. "It's in my diary." Then Vicki, another classmate, reached into her pocketbook, took out her wallet, and showed her worn and frazzled list to the group. "I carried this with me at all times," Vicki said. And without batting an eyelash, she continued, "I think we all saved our list." That's when the Teacher finally sat down and cried. She cried for Mark and for all his friends that would never see him again. The density of people

in society is so thick that we forget that life will end one day and we don't know when that day will be. So, please tell the people you love and care for that they are special and important. Tell them before it's too late. I just thought that was such a beautiful message. Wow. And what a wonder Yeah. And what a wonderful thing To do in a classroom because I remember years ago I I I came across some research in some of my reading and I jotted it down and I used this in a lot of

my earlier talks that there's a tribe in the northern part of uh South Africa where whenever anybody in the tribe gets out of line, misbehaves, starts acting crazy, you know, does things that are inappropriate, whatever it might be, gets angry, lashes out at people, whatever that everybody in the tribe Would gather around And they would put the person in the middle of the circle. And everybody in the circle and everybody in the tribe would go around and say to this recalcitrant troublemaking person sitting in the center what they liked about them, what they loved about

them. And um rather than all of them pointing out all the things they didn't like and the things that were wrong, they just consistently would tell them how wonderful they are, How much they were treasured, what they liked about them, and so on. And that would end the problem. And they had almost no disciplinary problems in this particular tribe because the focus was always on looking at what you like, looking at what's positive instead of continuously looking out from behind your eyeballs and seeing people the way you think they should be or seeing, you know,

and expecting the world to be different than it really is. And sending Love and appreciation to people that uh that story, I don't know if it's a true story or if it's apocryphal. uh my my brother sent it to me, but I think it's got a lot of implications. And you school teachers out there who might be listening, what a wonderful idea to do uh in a classroom, especially in a classroom where everybody knows each other, to let them hear the things that people don't say enough about how much they're they're loved and how much

They're treasured and so on. I love that. And I learned this lesson Yeah. Yeah, I learned this lesson uh personally years ago with one of my children who was having uh some uh issues with prescription drugs. And um what I did, I don't know how long ago this was, 20ome years ago, I called a family meeting and I had everybody in the family tell this person, one of my children, how upset it made them to see her behaving in these ways and the Impact that it had on them and the impact that it had on

mom and on dad and on the family and so on. And each person as they would go around would be saying, you know, negative things to this person and just reinforcing perhaps the reasons why these prescription drugs were being used in the first place. And it was a very important lesson for me to learn that if I were to do that over, and I did do it over later, is to put that same person in the room and instead of Having everybody point out what you don't like and what's wrong and what's missing and and

how you're hurting everybody else and so on, but instead touh say to that person, have each person talk about all the things about them that they love, the things that that they treasure, you know, that they remember about them. So that came out of my own learning experience and I just thought I wanted to share that here this morning because so often so many of the Calls that we take here on the radio show are a reflection of the one thing that I think everybody out there wants. Everybody wants to know that they are loved

and you know that story about him carrying that around with him for his whole life. It's like whenever he would have any doubts about that he would open that uh little piece of paper that he carried and be reminded about how valuable he is, how loved he is, how terrific he is. We all need to know That. And I think if we did that, not only could we change the consciousness in our families, but we could change it in our communities, in our country, which God knows needs uh a lot of bringing together. We become

the divided states of America instead of the United States of America. And the same thing globally and in the world because with what's going on in Gaza today and what's uh you know with planes being shot down out of the air and we've got to look Within and and and find you know in our neighbors and in our people especially the ones that annoy us. What about them that we love rather than what about them that we hate. It's a good way to focus in our life. As I say in my station, you know, loving

people live in a loving world and hostile people live in a hostile world. And it's the same world. It's the same world. just decide what kind of person you're going to be. St. John of the Cross uh who was a 16th Century Spanish mystic um um and a saint in the in the Catholic Church was the person who really coined the term the dark knight of the soul said that um he had one quote that I've always remembered. He said where there is no love put love and you will find love. And I think that

really speaks to compassion. And uh you know if you really want to find love just look where there is no love particularly you know in some of the kinds of things that are Going on in the world today and put love there and then you will find love and in your daily relationships with each other it's a good lesson you know just put some love there and guess what you that's exactly what you'll see coming back to you and that was St. John of the Cross. Yeah. St. John of the Cross. Yeah. Yeah. He was

a Spanish mystic. He spent a lot of his years in prison. I read a whole biography of him um not too long ago. Yeah. Beautiful, man. Like a a Monk. Yeah. I love that ancient wisdom. Yes. It's pretty modern, too. Yeah. And it still fits, right? So, you ready to share with some people here? Let's see who's uh out there. Who would like to talk to me this morning? Well, well, this is a cool name. So, I'd like to start with her. Leilani. Leilani in Denver. Online. That's a very common name here in Maui. Is

it? Yeah. And there's a restaurant about uh 700 yards from where I live called Leilani's uh Here on Maui. So you hear a lot of Hawaiian people, but I'll bet you this lady has some Hawaiian uh background. Are you Leilani? Welcome to the show. Are you from Hawaii? Aloha. No, I was not born in Hawaii, but I spent some time on the Big Island. Oh, well nervous. Dr. Dyer, thank you. I woke up this morning and I said, I'm gonna talk to Dr. Dyer today, and it's happening. And it's happening. Good for you. It's cuz

because of that name of yours, that Leilani. How did you get that name? How come your mom named you Leilani? Uh, it means heavenly flower. And they like this song called Sweet Leilani. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There you go. Well, great. Okay. Heavenly Flower, what's on your mind, my dear? Well, a couple things. Dr. Der, I'm involved with the crystal water healing project, and I want to send you some free crystals to put in the oceans on September 21st. Okay. And we just say a chant. It's a Global project. aqua.org. And we are What is it?

Say it again. Say it slower so we know. Aqua aqua lose. Lu Z.org. We're having a global water healing event on September 21st. And we're passing around crystals around the globe. And you infuse the crystal with your light and love and place it in the water. I love that. What a nice idea. And those because I had the merit to hear you at I Can do it in Denver and that event changed my life. You how how so? Well, you just could uh your story about how everything in your life has lined up and how

you've taken the pain of your childhood and that has brought you light. M and I I believe my d Yes. I believe my dharma involves traveling. I'm a world traveler and I love it so much. And helping people. So I envision traveling the world and helping women And children heal from trauma. But I'm just me. I don't have a family. I don't have I I'm just this person with this big dream. and I'd like your guidance on how to manifest it. Well, you don't need my guidance. Every desire that we have is placed there by

an intelligence. The same intelligence that uh you know, I'm looking out my window right now at all these palm trees and um I'm looking over to my and I see birds just flitting by here building a Nest of some kind. And I look over at the ocean and I'll be in the ocean in a little while and I look at all of these creatures that are down there. And there goes another bird. And this whatever intelligence it is that is moving everything in the universe also is what places uh these desires inside of us. It

isn't something that we can do with our human personality because our human personality has no idea even what a desire is or what a thought is. We are Restricted to our senses. what we can touch, what we can see, what we can feel, what is physical, what has form, what has beginning, what has ends, and so on. But thoughts and desires are outside of that realm completely. You can't get a hold of a thought. How many thoughts can you put in a in a quart bottle, you know? I mean, it's it's it's it's infinite. So,

whatever it is that places these desires inside of us, it's what I call our impersonality, the Impersonal part of us, that which is in everything. And that place that in there for you, Leilani, it's uh that burning desire is there. And it wasn't you, Leilani, when you said it, you're just me. You're not just me. That's just a belief system that you have that identifies you on the basis of what you can see with your eyes and what you can touch with your hands and what you can smell with your nose and so on. But

who you are is really a piece of the divine. You know, you have the intelligence that creates worlds deep within you. Uh it's who you are. And it placed that in there. this whole crystal project and the things that you want to do and the traveling, you know, and helping people, women and so on. All you have to do is not let yourself get distracted from this intelligence that was placed in there. You know, you have to remind yourself, why is why do I have such a desire to do this? What does this come From?

And then you stop yourself and say, well, it the answer to that isn't going to be found in my human self. It's going to be found in my spiritual self. So, I have to just let go of that and just trust and just trust that whatever it is that placed it in there for me and I can't let it go. And it's like I call it your excitement. You know, you get so excited about this. The reason that you're excited about it is because you're aligned with your dharma. You're Aligned with what it is that

you came into this world to be. That's why it feels good because feeling good and and feeling God are exactly the same thing. There's zero difference between good and God. One zero. So now you trust in that and you say, "Okay, this wasn't me that placed this in here." And so I'm going to allow myself to surrender to it and I'm going to trust that whatever intelligence it is that placed that in there for me is also going to place next To me or within my grasp all of the tools and everything that I need

to be able to fulfill it and to actualize it. And this is what I can see clearly as about. Now you have to move into these the ladder that I've spoken about so many times here on the show that Roomie said that when we are born a ladder is placed before us to help us to escape from this world that is to escape from the belief that our senses are the things that are our reality. So now you Have these rungs on this ladder and the rungs on the ladder are things that I call willingness.

Like how willing are you to do whatever it takes to uh align your behavior with this burning desire that has been placed inside of you. You know, and if you have anything on your unwilling list, well, I'm not willing to do this and I can't afford that and I' means I might have to move here and I might have to change this relationship or I might have to change jobs or I Might have to go to, you know, whatever it might be. If you read I can see clearly now you are listening to a man

who was always willing to do whatever it took to fulfill that dharma to climb that rung on the ladder to help me to escape from this physical world and move into the world of spirit where all things are possible you know with God all things are possible and I always ask my audience now what does that leave out so willingness and determination is Another rung on that ladder and compassion that Diane mentioned earlier is is is on that ladder and fearlessness like how many times do I let my fears fears that I might fail fears

that I won't have enough money fears that other people won't approve of me letting go all of that because the same force that is growing your fingernails every single night independent of your opinion about it no matter how much you may say to yourself tonight when you go to bed I'm Not going to have these fingernails grow I'm tired of them growing and I got to cut them all the time and color them going to stop it there's an force that is greater than your physical self that's just grows your fingernails else and that's the

same force that placed that desire in you. And now you move to the ultimate on the ladder. You say, "Okay, I'm willing." That's why I wrote I can see clearly now to let people see that when you come to a fork in the road And you're not sure which way to turn and you trust your intuition. You'll be guided. You'll be guided by what inside of you is just what I call your excitement, but it's really your alignment with the universal source. It's uh what Abraham calls the law of attraction. And that's how you do

it, my dear. Until you ultimately get to the top of the ladder where you look around yourself and you say, you know, I'm really not here as a human being at all Having a spiritual experience. My true essence, who I am as a human being is I am really a spiritual being. I'm an infinite spiritual being having a very temporary human experience. And I'm going to trust in that and live from that place. So now I'm going to start doing what I wrote about in wishes fulfilled. I'm going to assume the feeling of the wish

fulfilled. I'm going to feel what it feels like to be doing this thing that you've described to me, Not as something that I'm going to do if everything works out, but as an already accomplished fact, you know, in your mind. And then you begin to act in that way. And you start to align with all of the forces that make everything happen in the world. And that's my rant. Beautiful. Makes sense. I wish you were my father. You're so Well, I I am your father. You know, we're all each other's children and all each other's

brothers and sisters. We're Truly the same intelligence that uh created you that brought you into this world brought me into this world. We both we originated from the same place. There's only one source. There's only one. Beautiful. Is there any way I can send you I have a crystal that actually takes toxins out of the water called shoungite and I'd love to send you some. How do I wait and talk to the people? No. Here's what you do. When when you hang up, what we're going to do is we're You leave your address and we're

going to send you a brand new book that was written by my daughter Serena and myself called Don't Die with Your Music Still Inside of You and also my other daughter's CD which is called Letting Go. We're going to send you both of those as a as a gift uh to everyone that calls in today. And and the person that takes down the address will give you my address here on on Hawaii and then you can just mail it to me directly right Here in on Maui. I love you, Dr. Dyer. Thank you for being

too world. Aloha. Thank you so much. Aloha. God bless you. Namaste. God bless. Namaste. And we'll get that out to Leilani or I'll get her information and and send the address because I I give her my address as well. Yeah. I want to get the crystals. I want my water purified. That's great. Water is such a big thing. I mean, she was talking I don't I would like to have gone into that because Someday I'd like to do a show on water. As I've told you before, I do an Iawaska ceremony uh about once a

month now. And I'll go into that maybe sometime as well. But uh one of the lectures that was given in the middle of that ceremony the last time I was there about a month ago was a talk on water. It was a gratitude for water. And you know when I did the Dao and I was a Dowist for a year in 2005 when I wrote uh change your thoughts change your life based on the Dao to change 27 verses in the Dao mentioned water and what we have to learn from it and how it's uh

you know the essence of it. And this this talk that was given and these songs that were sung as a tribute to water and just being in it. It's like gratitude is one of the big themes in my life these days. You know in my talks I now thank my audience very often for all the wonderful things that have come into my life because they've decided you know That I would be someone whose books they would buy or whose lectures they would listen to or whose lectures they would pay uh to come and hear. And

I'm thank I'm in that state of gratitude. And I think water is one of the things and air and fire, you know, and these kinds of things that we just all just simply take for granted. And then our livers, you know, we should have liver appreciation day, you know, every single day because without that liver, you know, there's Not many breaths that you're going to take and and water is one of the things that I feel very strongly about that it's being contaminated in our world. Well, it's certainly an important issue around the world and

something I mean, you're right, we do take it for granted, you know, here in the States. Um, we're a little more aware, I think, in Southern California because we're drying up here. We have no water and then in the east coast we're in floods. And I've Often given this metaphor, I don't know if I've done it on the radio show or not, but I will since it's come up, it's like balance. We're just out of balance. And consciousness, we know that our consciousness impacts all of the everything in our environment. You know, I was looking

at some studies of of the impact that our thoughts have on plants. You know, when you're around plants and plants know that you're someone who doesn't doesn't respect them or has got Hate in your heart, they close up and so on and when you come to at plants with love and so on, you know, they you know, we know that our consciousness impacts simple things like plants and the animals and of course each other as well. And if our consciousness impacts the environment, then and our environment is really out of whack, it seems to me

these days. I mean, so many floods and so many fires. I mean there's a huge fire up in the west coast up in Washington that's out of control and then on the east coast we've got this we got a country that is divided you know the divided states of America on one coast and what is happening physically in our planet is that we're so out of balance that we're on on one hand we're all the way with water all the way to the left there is no water it's drought and on the other hand of

the country we have so much of it that it's drowning us and that um there's some connection in There somewhere where between if we know that the thoughts that we have impact our plants around us. Certainly we know that collectively if enough of us have thoughts of division and and hatred and what we don't like about each other that that uh collectively is going to impact um everything in our culture. And so we've really got to get back to a place where we're we're thinking and living and loving as one rather than in a divided

way. So true. We're all all Connected in that universal field, right? Yes. We certainly are. All right, where should we go next? That was a long rant this morning. That was my call. But it's good when you get on a roll, you know? It's it's always something good. I like it myself. I look I go back and say that was brilliant. Who said that? Was that me? Write it down. Right. So, let's go to Amy. And she's on line three. And Amy, I know people probably say Missouri. It's Missouri or Missouri. How do you say

it? I say Missouri. Okay. It's the show me state. It's the show me state. It is the show me state. Right. Dr. Dyer, I have to say thank you for taking my call, listening to you. I'm not even sure why I called except for to say first of all the story you said about shared about the teacher. Um yeah, isn't that great? My third grade teacher did that. Really? Oh, tell me about it. I still have those. What she did was we had a student Of the week every week and she would sit down and

the child would sit in the front and she would go student by student and write down something nice about that student that the other classmate shared and it would hang on the wall for the entire week and so I actually got to do it twice that year because we ran out of students and it's something that I kept forever. I still have them and Oh, isn't now see what motivated me to write I can see clearly Now. I don't know. Have you read that? Have you had a chance to read it? No, I have not.

Make a note, Diane. We're going to send her a copy of that. Okay. She's the one person left in the world who hasn't read it. Send it out. But uh in the writing of that, I was really motivated to write that just to let people know that that feeling that it was motivated. I actually decided to write it. I was reading a book called to know we are loved by Rashad Field and That's Fi L D for some reason. Sufi and he said that it's the one thing that all of us just want to have

in our lives if this is taken care of. All of the other things that we call problems dissolve uh right away and that's just to know that we are loved. And imagine, you know, you said as a third grader that was like many, many years ago for you and you probably have carried that thing around or you've referred back to it. And it's like it's just a confirmation that hey, I'm not only loved by my fellow students and my family and all that, but I'm loved by a divine intelligence as well. You know, I'm loved

by whatever it is that is love. You know, it's like Jesus said, God is love. You know, if we came from love, then um you know, when we have love in us, we have God in us and we become God when we have love inside of us. Yeah. And to know that we are love. So, you carried that around with you, did you, for your lifetime? Yes. I Still have them out in my garage. They're on cardboard paper. Uhhuh. Really great. I actually wanted to be a third grade teacher because of that. That's what I

was going to do with my life when I grew up. Wow. I love a very long time. Yeah. So, thank you. My question my question really was I'm at kind of a unique place in my life. I've spent a lot of time trying to energetically clear blocks um from my past and I've recently I've Wanted to do a documentary for about 21 years now and recently have been offered the opportunity to do that. But I find that as I'm supposed to be working on the storyboard and things that I get stuck and just don't do

it. And I I want to do it. I'm very excited about it. And I just don't know what old patterns are coming up for me and how I can figure out what they are so that I can clear them and and not lose out on this opportunity that I really want. Okay. So The biggest blockage that you have you've already demonstrated in your question and that is seriously I mean I'm not being critical it's that uh you know you can never accomplish anything unless you can first expect it of yourself. So the question I would

ask for you have for you Amy would be what do you expect from yourself? you know you now you want to do a documentary and you know that there are going to be obstacles and there going to be Difficult there's going to be this is going to come up and that's going to come up and that isn't you know but uh have you already seen the finished product see when I start to write a book for example I'm already in the process of that I I want to share a little bit about what's happening with

me in that in in a future show uh right now because it's just been overwhelming I already have the completed book a picture of it in front of me that I look at every Single pay. And so that that'd be the first thing I would recommend is seeing it already completed and fulfilled. If it's going to be a DVD or whatever it's going to be, however you're going to create it, get the packaging for it. Even if it's going to change, see it, look at it, so that every time you look at it, you've already

assumed the feeling that is emotionally inside of you. Because emotions are what move this creative process. Uh your feelings. And If you're feeling, you know, just like uh what it feels like to know that you've accomplished this, if you could get that feeling now in this moment and you know, then what you do is you align with the universal source, the divine mind that that allows everything to take place. You're aligned with it because it that universal source always says yes. And so the funding will start to show up, the right people will start to

show up. This is how this is how this whole Process works. It's getting past the doubt. I think the first uh the very first obstacle to higher consciousness is uh I used to call it banishing the doubt. Shakespeare said our doubts are our traitors. You said I'm afraid old patterns are going to show up. That's a doubt. You know instead of your mind being saying there's nothing in my past that will do anything to prevent me from fulfilling this vision that I've already seen as an Accomplished fact. there is nothing that I have ever experienced

that will ever allow me to interfere with it, you know. So, you're starting from a place of of banishing the doubt, you know, and then you you you shut down that inner dialogue, you know, that's another obstacle to higher consciousness is this constant inner kind of thing about this isn't going to work out and what if it doesn't and what if I don't, you know, and all of the whatifs and the may and The hurts and the fears and so on. All of that stuff just gets rolled in there. Meanwhile, a person Maslo used to

say to us that a self-actualized person is someone who never places into their imagination anything that they do not want to manifest into their real life. So, they would never put a thought into them about I'd like to do this. I'd like to really accomplish this and I know this is something that I'm really born to do. It's a it's a burning desire That's been placed in there by me. But, and then here comes all of the stuff that is uh going to interfere with you. And so that inner dialogue is a constant kind of

this is, you know, it's based on feeling that you don't have the ability or the desire or that you're not smart enough or that you're, you know, whatever it might be and all of that stuff. Whereas a self-actualized person already sees it as an accomplished fact. And just like any obstacle that shows Up, they just see that as just something to get around or to, you know, as you're even grateful for those obstacles because, you know, it's often been said that every advance that we make towards a higher spiritual place in our life is almost

always preceded by a fall of some kind or another. You know, so that all of the the things that most people call obstacles and so on. to a self-actualized person. This is just another stepping stone in order to allow Myself to get to this place that I've already been in my imagination. Because Amy, the greatest gift that you were ever given from the moment that you were conceived is the gift of your imagination. You can place anything in there that you want to have in there. And there is nothing that anyone can do to take

it away from you. And that everything, you know, William Blake said that everything that now exists was once imagined. You know, so I used to tell my Kids that, you know, crazy sentences like this that the law of flotation was not discovered by the contemplation of the sinking of things. You know, when the Wright brothers went uh, you know, down to Kittyhawk, they weren't contemplating the staying on the ground of things. They were contemplating the getting off the ground of things and they wouldn't have any other thoughts into their consciousness. And that's why we have

airplanes because somebody, you Know, had that vision that was so strong inside of them that they would never allow the opposite that is this isn't going to work out. I used to use that example of Thomas Edison when he was trying to invent the electric uh filament and for the electric for the uh light bulb and someone said to him, "How does someone as famous as you who who's tried 25,000 different combinations feel about failing 25,000 times?" And his answer was classic. He said, "Uh, I Don't know what you're talking about, failure." He said, "Today

I know 25,000 ways not to make a battery." That's what it was, a battery. You know, so anyway, yeah, I just heard my answer so clearly in that I am thinking about what's preventing me from doing it and not doing it. Exactly. Exactly. And you be and you become what you think about all day long. Like I'm I'm in the process. I'm going to write a book that um and I had made up my mind I wasn't going to Write a book you know any more books a couple of years ago and now I'm working

on you know I've written another one I can see clearly now and then you know I'm working on another one and it's like I am so open and I have so surrendered and I'm so every morning when I wake up I woke up this morning at 5:00 and I just take these two crystals and I put them in my hand I meditate for like an hour just asking uh for the guidance to be able to to write this book on a Subject that I, you know, truthfully don't feel I don't feel knowledgeable enough. I don't

feel like I know enough. And yet, it's just something that won't um it just won't go away. And a lot of it is is based on this idea about burning desires that I've been speaking about that uh you know this impersonal self of us and wanting to make that really clear and to take the teachings of the Bhagavad Gita and bring it all together in this final book that I Really I feel is writing itself through me. But I never ever allow the thought that I can't do it. You know, I just say to myself,

you know, whatever I need will be there at the time that I need it. And I'm coming from a complete and total place of knowing that this is something that I have to fulfill before I leave this earth. That's where you have to get to, my love. That's where you have to get to. And I'm going to send you I can see clearly now. And I'm Going to send you Don't Die with Your Music Still in You with Serena Dyer, which is a wonderful book about what it was like to be raised around crazy people

like me. And my daughter Sky singing uh letting go, singing the beautiful song that I danced with Serena to at her wedding on the 1st of July, three weeks ago. She's already the long-term marriage, Diane. Three weeks, they're still together. It's going great. And my daughter Sky on Facebook with her are beautiful. Oh, you saw that? Yes, of course. I know. I posted that uh because I wanted everybody to see what a beautiful bride. What a beautiful day. It was. It was truly one of the happiest days of my life. They are. And I have

a bag that I purchased from one of your daughters that and I can do it. Oh, sure. Tracy, my daughter Tracy. An urban junket. Yeah, if you ever want to know about those, but she makes them out of Recycled plastic water bottles. I mean, they're and they're so beautiful. Yeah, she's Yeah. Well, thank you, Amy. Where in Missouri? Where are you from? Where in Missouri? Nixon, Missouri. I actually work in Branson, Missouri. But ah, 30 minutes away. So, yeah, that's the home of Harry Truman. I mean, yeah, Independence, Missouri. Yes. Yeah. Well, thank you, my

dear. You're very welcome. Leave your address. God bless you. Thanks for a nice call. Thank you. That's great advice, too. A lot of people struggle with that. I'm sure that's going to help. And with what with the Yeah. with just getting in their own way, you know, some self-sabotage and Yeah. those those negative thought patterns. I was swimming in a pool up in Minneapolis when I was visiting Tracy and uh and there was a you know, a slogan written on the wall for the swimming team. And every time I would go in one direction, I

would look up and I Had my head turned that I would read this slogan and I read it for I swam that day for a full hour and so I must have read it oh a hundred times you know and it said if you want to create something in your life you must first be able to expect it of yourself you know and I just I would think about that as I was swimming I'd say yeah it's really just about what are my expectations for me and if my expectations are how difficult something's going to

be it's It's it can't work out I can't afford it you know I'm not smart enough I'm too old whatever it might If those are your if those are your thoughts, that's what you expect from yourself, the universal subconscious mind aligns with that thought that you have continuously and offers you experiences that match up to it. It gives you all the things that you've said you want. So, it's got it's really shifting them around, right? It's a good good reminder especially for me Because I'm kind of entering into this home buying realm that I've avoided

for a long time and you know so I'm just thinking hey the right situation will align and the right thing I'll find will be great. I can't tell you how many letters I've had from people over the years thousands of people and especially about houses who people who get a vision in their imagination of what it is and what it looks like and after they do that for a while they can actually see It. They can see the color. They can see what the lawn looks like. They can see what the road what the you

know they can see everything about it and then one day they look and there it is and it's like and it's impossible for them not to get it. That's how powerful you know our ability to visualize and manifest. That's that's how everything happens. Everything happens from our thoughts. All right, let's see if we can get another call in squeeze in a few more People. The this I like this one. Ally in Los Angeles. She's on line five. And I know a lot of people feel disconnected from friends and family and would like to feel closer.

So I'm sure people can relate to what Alli's going through and welcome to the show Ally. You're on with Dr. Wayne Dyer. Hi. How are you? Hi Ally. Hi. So yeah, I my family I uh I think I just basically rejected them when I was a little kid and I moved away. I was able to manifest another Home. And um I How old were you? How old were you, Ally? 10. You were 10. You just you decided one day to leave or No, I was I wanted before that. And then when I was 10, an

opportunity arose and I move moved into a home for Okay. And um and it was my choice. I had to I got to choose. And then I was um brought to another country by uh my father who they got divorced when I was seven I guess America. I was brought to America and I'm now ready I think to reconnect but I've noticed that even with my present family um I have some closeness that there's still a part of me like I can be vulnerable with myself, I can be vulnerable with a stranger but I don't

really feel safe. I mean, when I'm with my family, I'm just not vulnerable. I'm just neutral. Which family? The Your original family you're speaking of. Uh any family. My current and my you know Well, when you say current, what is your current family? Is it uh is it? Yes. And My husband. It's your husband and children. Yes. Okay. And then now this family that you'd like to reconnect to, but are you Who does that consist of? Sister, brother, mother, my father who's in New York. Yes. Okay. So, and have you been estranged from them for

all these years? Yes. Okay. And and now there's something inside of you and what is that something inside of you? What is this burning desire inside of you saying to you about Reconnecting with this original family? What's the what's the motivation behind that? Do you have any idea? Yeah. I want to open and step more into myself and I have to let go of these patterns of rejection and I don't actively reject and hate them or anything. I just decided that they weren't working for me and I needed to find something that was going to

support my needs better. So, I don't know what I did. It's like I shut down in some way and I've done that with all humans. Mhm. And that's shifting inside of me, but I'm still even people want to get close to me and I'm just neutral. I don't know. Yeah. Have you listened to the whole show? Were you on at the beginning of the show? When I read that little piece about the uh the school teacher and the children in the third grade, I wouldn't have trusted any what anybody had said That I I don't

believe that they would have said something that nice. It would have been just polite that would story. I can change that now. I can think of and and purposefully but that would that was Let me ask you this. Do you believe in God or you know like some kind of divine presence that create that allows things to come into the world? doesn't matter what we call it but the that there is some kind of and do you believe that that whatever that God is whatever What do you believe that it's loving I had an experience

in meditation where I was able to see love and I was able to see how it was constantly surrounding all of us and the only reason a person doesn't experience or see it is because they're participating in some form of rejection experience so Ally let me ask because we only have a few minutes left and I think it's really important for you to try this This little exercise. Just imagine God, you know, the source from which all things are come and we the thing that we know about God what is is that that it's uh

that there's no place that it is not that it is eternal that it is omnisient and that it is all knowing and all powerful and that it is eternal. So that um and you know most of the great philosophical teachers will tell us that the if you ask them what is real how do you define reality they will say that is Real which never changes that is real which is eternal if it's not not eternal it's not real so that all all hatred for example is really not real all evil is really not real because

it's not eternal it doesn't let the only thing that is eternal is is this love okay so you this is your source of being it wasn't your parents it wasn't You know that brother and mother and sister that you would like to reunite with that you where you originally came from is where everything Originates from this original source of being. Try to imagine yourself in a conversation with this source of being that is nothing but pure love. God is love. It's just pure love. And asking this source what it thinks about you, Ally. You know

how does it feel about you? Now remember it is pure love and you came from it. So, and the only thing that it knows it's it's it's just oneness. The only thing that it knows is love. That's why it gives off these Little sparks like you and me and and everything that ever shows up into this world. And in a conversation with this source, ask it, "What do you think of me?" And what do you think it would say? You're okay. Yeah. Okay. Just let me just Okay. Let me try to give you an Go

ahead. No, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I just felt like that part of me was feeling um defensive And like I'm refusing to. So let me try to be that be God and speak to you Ally. You are a part of me. You are a spark of me. I am love. I am pure love. That's all I am is pure love. There is nothing but me. There's no opposites. I'm in a world in which there is no opposite of love. There is no hatred. There's no bitterness. There's no these are concepts that I don't even know

anything about because I'm only pure love. And you are a piece of that. You are a part Of that. And therefore, to me, you are nothing but an expression of the highest thing that there is in this universe, the highest force that there is. And it's pure love. That's what you are. And that's how I feel about you. All I can do is love you. because you are so precious to me that I gave up a little tiny piece of myself to be have you show up in this world. That's how perfect you are. And

when I don't recognize you is when you go into the reasons why there's Something wrong with you, the reasons that you're bad or the reasons that you might have come up with in your own mind to place anything negative about yourself in your mind. It's not possible. You are me. I am you. And I just all I have for you is love. I don't know how that resonates with you. I just got it in my ear that we just have less than a minute left in the show. But I'd like to send you a copy.

Have you read I Can See Clearly Now? No, I haven't. Yeah, I'd like to send that to you. And also my daughter's book, uh, Don't Die with Your Music Still in You. Great lesson for that in you. And also Skye's Letting Go. Three little packages all for you today, Ally, because you're just so loved. Thanks for your call and everyone else's call. It was a great show today. I love you all. Namaste. We have Dr. Wayne Dyer with us. We're talking about balancing our our lives together. So, would you like to just get Started? Sure,

I would. Yeah. Last week we talked about the first principle which was uh you know an infinity of forest lies dormant within the dreams of one acorn. And it was the whole idea is that uh we're very much out of balance between our dreams, what it is that we would like to attract into our lives and our habits, what we offer up to that. Usually, they're way out of balance. And this this principle here, I call it I call it in the book uh there's nine Principles in this book. I call this one you can't

kiss your own ear. And people ask me what does that mean? I said, well, in order to get your ears uh kissed, uh somebody else obviously has to do it. Otherwise, your ear is going to go through a whole lifetime without being kissed. It has to come from outside of you, from someplace else. And this is really finding a way to balance within yourself and within your life how you See yourself with what you really are projecting to the world. The big danger in this is that people have a tendency to think that uh you're

just looking for approval. You're making other people's opinions of you the most important thing in the world. And so, and I've taught so much in so many places uh from erroneous zones right up until now over 30 years that you don't want to be running your life based upon what other people think of you. And the important distinction Here is the difference between wanting approval and wanting to have other people's opinions and getting feedback that can be valuable to you and needing it. Needing the approval of others, which means that I collapse or I become

immobilized if I don't receive, you know, good and favorable things from other people. So I just dismiss all of that, push all of that out, and it's not it's not about either one of these. This is really about what are you projecting Out there into the world? And very often we're way way out of balance. We have a tendency to say to uh other people or some sense, what kind of a person are you? You'd say, well, I'm a I'm a loving human being. But you're not a loving human being if you are uh behaving

in non-loving ways towards a lot of people out there, particularly people uh that um you know are there to serve you and so on. I mean, you're not a kind person, for example, if you're kind to your Family and nice to your parents and and things like that, but you're out there yelling at the waiter and screaming at people when they're in traffic and honking the horns at little old ladies who uh who are terrified and and are driving too slow in front of you and and so on. So, you may have a vision of

yourself as being this kind, wonderful person, but what you're projecting out there in many many places is someone who is not kind, who is not very loving. You May think of yourself, for example, as a joyful person, but you may be hearing people telling you a lot, you know, lighten up. Stop taking life so seriously. You're always so upset. You lose your temper so quickly and so on. And you may go be going around internally with a vision of yourself as this perfectly calm person when in fact other people are constantly telling you uh that

you're full of stress and that you're causing anxiety and you're you're Hard to be around and so on. So the idea behind this one is to uh take a look at what it is that you are out there projecting into the world and then to uh to seek out that feedback and to use it in a in a in a helpful way. I can give you two examples of this in my own life that life-changing things. There was a time uh when we had had five children in 8 years and we had had three in

in about three and a half years. And so our house was uh obviously there was a lot of Chaos. There were a lot of babies. Every time I would come home from my writing, I'd have to stop at the uh drugstore and I'd have to pick up three different uh kinds of diapers. I'd have to pick up large, extra large, and small or whatever it was. And I just knew I remember I'd get purple, I'd get red, I'd get blue. And uh you know, that was how I handled all of that. So, while I would

be bringing these diapers uh home and all this, the house was in chaos. So, we decided at that time to go out and get ourselves someone to help at the house to cook for us. So, we had a cook there. And this guy, you know, his name was Mark. And he he would come in there and he was a chef and he would have all and I I started eating these meals that he was making. They were filled with the house filled with smelled with butter and garlic and all of this kind of stuff. And

I would eat I started eating a lot of that food. And one day after About a month of of doing this every day, coming home and having this this wonderful treat of having somebody cook for me, he looked at me and he said, "You're getting a little fat there, don't you think?" And I and no one had ever said that to me before. And I had actually in the process put on 10 or 15 pounds over a period of a month just from eating these kinds of food and not exercising as much as I should

or so on. And I remember his feedback coming to me And I thought to myself, now who does who does this guy think he is? He works for me. I he has no right to tell me that. And I remember the next day I I went uh I decided to really start watching what I eat. I started eating less of it. I started being more conscious about it and so on. And it was like it was the last time that anyone has ever said that to me because it was a turning point in my life.

it was another person's opinion being willing To say something to me. That was one. The other was when I was teaching at the university in Detroit at Wayne State University right after I got my doctorate. It was 1971. I was 31 years old. I had my very first class. And one of the things that everybody in the class had to do was make a presentation to the class in these various groups. And this group got up there and they started doing this presentation. And I noticed that there were a lot of Snickers going on around

the in the room and so on. And and then people would look at me and then they'd look at them and they would laugh and they didn't know whether to laugh or not. They looked embarrassed. And all of a sudden it hit me that they were uh doing an impression of me. They were impersonating me. And what they were showing was a person who was a little bit dogmatic, who was fairly loud, who had this little gut uh you know sticking Out over his stomach and and they were you know doing all of this stuff

in a good naturatured kind of way. And I remembered how it impacted me. It was like if I come across that way so that they can emulate me and I was a little bit too too loud perhaps and a little bit too dogmatic and so on that uh it was really a life-changing kind of thing for me. So other people's opinions uh and what you're projecting to the world, you want to be able to be in balance in The sense that how you would like to project yourself to the world is in fact what the

world is thinking about what you are projecting. And if it's not, if you call yourself kind, but you're nasty to the waiter, if you call yourself stress-free, and yet you're jumping up and down at other people, if you're losing your temper quickly and think of yourself as a calm, inch charged person, and you're getting that kind of feedback and information out there, it's good to Get yourself back into balance and to be projecting exactly what it is that you would like other people to see you as. Making your feelings about yourself match what other people

are perceiving about you. Well, yeah. Not even so much always matching but at least not fooling yourself into telling yourself that you're one kind of a person or that you're you behave in a certain kind of way when in fact the opposite. This another thing is even about if you ask Most people are you truthful person for example most people would say why of course I'm truthful but then you find themselves uh uh you know skirting the truth in a lot of ways. You project yourself uh as something that you don't really want to be

projecting yourself as. And in fact, the fact is that it isn't so much other people are seeing you is that you're not seeing yourself in an authentic way. I see. Well, Dr. Dyer, what do you say we go right to our Caller, Lisa in St. George, Utah. Lisa, welcome to our program. Hi, Lisa. You're live on air, Lisa. Oh, great. Hey. Oh, I'm so excited to be on the phone. Thank you. Me, too. Have you ever been to St. George, Utah? Has that I have never been to St. I don't know. Maybe. Where is St.

George? It's like 45 minutes from Zion National Park. Oh, because I thought St. George was in the White House, but I mean, I think that's the way he thinks anyway. Sorry about that. I had couldn't Resist. It's beautiful. It's beautiful here. And I know if you ever get a chance to come, you should. It's red rock and gorgeous. It is beautiful. I've been I've spent a lot of time in Utah. I've spoken at two universities there. It's a beautiful state. Well, I want you to know there I've been following just recently all the things that

you all the books you've written. I I just this last summer in June, I had a life-changing experience kind of what you talked about In one of your books about forgiveness. Uhhuh. In my own life. And right after that happened, I found your book 10 steps to inner peace and success and read it. And then after that, Power of Intention, read that. After that, inspiration, the ultimate calling. Then I got getting in the gap and I just finished being imbalanced. What did you think? Because that was a book that just sort of channeled itself through

me. I was really really deeply touched as it Rode itself through me being in balance. Yes. I loved it. Everything I will tell you since I started doing these reading your books and with each book I've kept 3x5 cards with me that I've written your affirmations on. Right. And some just little things in the books that just got my attention and I probably look at those every day. Oh, that a whole I have a whole stack of them. I do the very same thing. I don't just do it with necessarily with my word, but I

do it uh I start out every single day. There's a there's a book out there about the Dao. I'm writing a book on the Dao right now. Wait till you finish that one. I I know. I'm on number 71 right now. In fact, number 71. Number 71 is something I was talking about with my daughter this morning who's been really struggling with some addictions and so on. And it says that you'll never get well until you get sick of being sick. Yeah. And some great sages know that. And they Never get sick because they're sick

of being sick. And I I've I've been thinking and contemplating that whole concept. And even what you said about uh forgiveness. It's like you get sick of being angry, don't you? You just Well, I ended up taking everything that happened to me in my life that I felt like, oh, this happened to me and made it like, oh, I'm so that I I got to experience that. Yes. You created it. Yes. I created it and and look at where I am Now. And what who did you have to forgive? What did you do? Everyone. I

when I was a a small child, my parent my I grew up in Los Angeles, California, born and raised. Uhhuh. My both my parents have their PhD and they're very, you know, they worked. Uhhuh. But we were raised Mormons. Well, my mom was very trusting and so I was taken to a babysitter's house that needless to say I was taken advantage of. Right. As a young girl. Yes. Five. Four, five, six. And when we moved from that house and I and being raised of course in a religious home where you just don't talk about those

things, none of those things come up. It was just I always carried this with me like this shame and this guilt and it was like my fault or nobody protected me and I attracted that throughout my whole You attracted more of the shame, more of the things that you put your attention on because you get what you think about, You know, whether you want it or not. Yeah. I and again I had this experience of forgiveness before I even read your books this summer but I was ready. I guess it was just I was ready.

Well, did you let me just break in a minute. Did you see what happened in Lancaster, Pennsylvania with the Amish people? Yes. And the you know where they lined with that that man lined up the the girls and and shot five of them and so on. And somehow I mean when we looked at these People and they said we practice living as Christians. This is our whole philosophy. If we can't forgive the people who harm us, then uh all of the things that we talk about and all the things that we live are not authentic,

right? And they somehow got it right, didn't they? They somehow got these peaceful, loving people. They got it right. They did. And that's what has I mean, literally transformed the last four months of my life was that Forgiveness. It is. It did. It totally completely changed my life. Anybody else? And not not only that, but then I married someone that was a sex addict. Uhhuh. And so I got more. It was like I I know I did that to get past and to forgive again. You know, it's like all of these things have taught me.

And I love this man, you know, even to this day. We have four beautiful kids together. We're best friends now. Uhhuh. But so so it's Really an act of the heart, isn't it? It's not really nec necessarily that you have to go send him flowers or anything. It's an act of the heart. And once once you create I don't love everything he does, right? But I love him the spirit. You probably don't love everything you do either. But that's you still have to love yourself. But I my well and ever since let me go on.

So I got getting in the gaps and I I do that and that meditation is is just what I needed. I Mean when I first started I was going this is really hard you know anything. I'm a dancer. I do a lot of creative things and always at first it's difficult. And I want to really say that to everyone listening because if you just keep doing it now, I go out and I do it on my own without listening to your voice. Yeah, that's the meditation you're speaking about. It's a CD in the back of

Getting in the Gap or or Yeah. any it's a very it was taught to me by a Great teacher who learned it from the uh the people who wrote it back 2500 years ago back in uh in India. And all of these things you say resonate have made actually have made sense to me all along. Like when I was a little girl, I remember waking up at night being energy in my room really quickly moving and being afraid being afraid. I mean just everything. Even though I was raised in a home that really was you

can't think that way. No, no, no. We're Not allowed to see. We're not allowed to have any spiritual guidance other than the prophet. You know, none of those things were that never felt true to me, but everything you've said feels true to me. And I will tell you that since I started doing those manifestation or getting in the gap, anything I've wanted to do has come up. Oh, that's so wonderful. Ah, that's such a confirming uh it's a that's a great I like I said, I'm a I teach dance. I am an instructor. I've been

wanting to go, you know, just everything I love to do, I get to do. I wanted to go to Jamaica. Lisa, we're gonna have to interrupt you. Yeah, we have to go. Well, thank you so much for your call, Lisa. God bless. What a great call. I really appreciate your confirmation. Well, Dr. Dyer, I think we have many calls to attend to, so let us get on with Rose in Lexington, Kentucky. Rose, welcome to our program today. Hello. Thank you so much for taking the Call. Hi, Rose. How are you? I'm just great. Um, your

discussion just a few minutes ago just uh made me call because I'm an instructor. I teach horseback riding lessons and I had an insight where I was um taking an a new adult around to view the lessons to decide whether or not he wanted to come and ride with us, right? And um at the end of the lesson, at the end of the lesson, I went ahead and it was introducing them to the different Students and he expressed his concern about whether or not there would be he wanted sufficient feedback to improve his skills, etc.

And the student that was there said, "Oh, yeah, she'll give you lots of feedback." And I'm like, "Whoa." Now she said it in in a you know in a laughing fun way but there were behind there there was some insight and I'm saying like well I would never think of myself in that way. I mean I right she was saying that you maybe come Across a little pushy or you know too strong a little too strong or too excessive or whatever. So now that insight is very important because of course I'm in a place where

I want to improve and grow my business and also I want to make life my whole concept of riding is that horses give us life lessons. It's not teaching riding. My daughter Summer is a is a horse instructor. I mean this has been her life and I know that and it's very Interesting what you're speaking about there though because there's really this sort of this fine line between uh you know not wanting to uh run your life based upon what other people think of you certainly you know there's a wonderful book title called what you

think of me is none of my business uh you know so that you don't want to go around be you know just saying well and then you become a people pleaser and you're trying to you you know you're You're trying to please this audience and that audience it's one of the problems that we have with the authenticity of politicians Because before one group they'll say one thing and before another group they say some something else. They go to another part of the country they say something else. Always trying to be out there pleasing everyone else.

So there's that extreme but then there's the other extreme of people who go through life and behave in Certain ways and they think they're one thing and they're coming across a very different way. And you want to have that feedback. I think the real crucial thing in all of this is to be uh is to is to not let yourself become immobilized regardless. like if you got some very harsh criticism and and it's funny. Was that a young child that said that to you? No, it was a it was another adult. It was another adult.

Yeah. And she said it in a nice way. I mean, but there was Also a hidden a hidden message in there to you. Yeah. Yeah. So that at whatever it is that you are receiving in the way of feedback, you don't become immobilized by it. You just take it, you you note it, and you say, you know what, if that's the way I am, you know, I want to be a little bit more cautious. If you're a person who needs to uh be in front of an audience, actors and actresses often come to me and

talk about uh you know it's easy for you to Say to be independent of the opinion of others but my whole livelihood depends upon whether the people out there you know like what I'm doing and if they don't uh you know I need to know that and I think that keeping that perspective is what we're talking about here. Okay. Well, thank you. I I appreciate that. It's really nice. Yeah. On the activity side, I I do feel that it is insightful. And so the action step I'm going to take is to go get your book

In balance and read through it and pick up those pieces that are that maybe are not imbalanced. No, that's and take, you know, put it in perspective. But I sure do thank you for your help and I'm going to be looking forward to your coming to our neck of the woods. I'll get out there. Lexington, Kentucky. It's uh that's Isn't that right across from Cincinnati? Is that Yeah, I've been at your airport many times. We go to Cincinnati often for the different Hay House speakers. Yeah. Well, great. Well, God bless you. Thank you for your

wonderful call. I appreciate it. Namaste. Thanks a lot, Rose, for your call. All right, Dr. Dyer, we're going to go now to Clayton in Orlando, Florida. I wonder if he's going to be at the conference at the end of the month. Clayton, welcome to the program. Hi, thank you so much. Hi, Dr. Dyer. Hi, Clayton. How are you, my friend? I am great. I am great. Well, finally in Orlando with the the weather subsiding now. It's actually enjoyable down here. It's beautiful there from what everyone tells me right now. instead of the swamplike conditions that

we usually endure. Yeah. Yes. Um, enjoy the swamps. Enjoy them. I know. It's exciting. And the smell is is just wonderful. I'm sure you're you've experienced that smell. I have. My question for you is I read hundreds of spiritual texts over my life and spent you know came to Bickram yoga At an early part in my life and and you know I and I work in television and uh and I co-host a nationally syndicated television show across the country on the morning and and I the space that I'm at now it's a place that's really

filled with negativity and you know it becomes like a fishbowl environment where I sort of tie my self-esteem to that place right and whether or not I'm I'm good enough or whether or not I've succeeded in such a way and and whether or not I'm, you know, I can get to that next spot. And they've begun to basically explain that I am not going to be part of their program anymore and that I'm going to move to a different spot or I'm going to stay there while they bring these other people in to sort of

try out for, you know, for this particular job and this and yet I've tied my self-esteem to this place for so long. Mhm. and I want to take it to the Next level where I become a network anchor and move to the next level and move to a higher level, but I still have that self-doubt, that one little nugget of self-doubt. And I wanted to get your perspective on, you know, with all of the with all the affirmations and with all the meditations and all of the understanding that, you know, this network job is on

its way and I know it's coming, right? But then it sneaks in that back door and I think for Whatever reason I think that's what everyone always worries about that one little nugget. Well, the network job and how it plays out and whether it shows up there or in Lexington, Kentucky where the lady just talked to you or or whatever it might be is u outside of your control and it it's because those are just the details and the details of how things work are not really in our hands. First of all, I would suggest

that you be in a total complete state of Gratitude for all of this kind of stuff that this feedback that's coming at you that you may not you may or may not be included, you know, which is bringing all of this doubt to the surface so that you can deal with this stuff and then just put it to bed uh completely. In other words, you want to create for yourself an inner environment that is so filled with peace. I was introducing Louise Haye at her 80th birthday party. was giving a tribute to her at her

party Last weekend and I quoted uh Herman Melville and he said uh he was writing Moby Dick. He said, "For as this appalling ocean surrounds the verdant land, so in the soul of man lies one insular Tahiti full of peace and joy, but encompassed by all of the horrors of the half-lived life." And I quoted that and said that Louise Haye was one of the people who brought an insular Tahiti to all of us with her monumental works and creating her publishing house and so on Which I'm so proud to be a part of. And

I'd like you to know that you have to be able to go, Clayton, to that inner place within yourself, to that insular Tahiti that is filled with peace and joy. Totally knowing that this is uh is absolutely perfect for you. Projecting yourself out there in this loving and peaceful way. Being independent of the opinions of everybody else out there who thinks you should or shouldn't be doing it in a certain way, being totally Completely at peace. You do yoga. I would recommend that you read the Dao a little bit each day. Read the Dao DQing.

Find out how important it is to be a non-interfer to be totally at peace. To get more by doing less, to be free from uh trying to control things outside of yourself that uh are all uh unfolding perfectly. Just to be at that in that peaceful place and then to be grateful for everything that comes along, whether it's a network job or whatever it is. Cuz if you have that inner peace, that insular Tahiti, that place of joy within your heart, it won't make any difference to you whether you're on a network or whether you're

not because the network thing is really about ego. It's just about it's about more people watching you and and all of that. And if you can just free yourself from that external kind of thing and just allow yourself to be the great the greatness that you uh that you came here to be, it'll all Unfold perfectly. That's my advice. I don't know if it helps or not. No, that's wonderful. Thank you. Thanks, Clayton. God bless you. All right, we've got Molina and this is an update call and sometimes I like to check back, give a

give a caller a couple minutes because I like to get updated on what the advice is you've given and and how it's playing out in their lives. So Molina from Sherman Oaks, California, can you give us a brief update of how things are Going for you? Sure. Hi. Hi Melina. How are you doing? Good. Good. Okay. I asked you a question um at the Pasadena event with Byron Katie about, you know, advice on on how to show my son that the violent video games he likes, you know, what to do. So, you told me to

go ahead and do the the muscle testing. Yeah. Do the uh Yes. So, I just for everyone's edification out there, uh you that energy is in everything. And if you're doing something, if you're watching Something violent or if you're listening to violent music or whatever and you muscle test it, that is you hold that in your hand and test yourself that it will actually show you whether you're strengthened or weakened by it. And violence almost always shows the it weakens us. Go ahead. What happened? Okay. I came home that evening. I told my children, you

know, I talked about you to Dr. Dyer and I told my son, you know, what I had talked about. So he Said, "Okay, let's do it." He looks around and I just shown them Unstoppable Me, your ch new children's book that I brought home for them. He said, "Let's use this as the good as the positive thing." And we tested one of his video games, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. And they each did it and we did it back and forth time and time again with Unstoppable Me held up against their heart. They were strong. I

wasn't able to to push their arm down. With the Violent video games, they went weak. So, I didn't know how he would process that or if he would care or whatever, but within I mean seconds, he said, "All right, okay. I'm going to get my video games together." He went, he took out all his video games. He went through which ones were violent, which ones were not. He sorted them into two piles and said, "Okay, these are going to go." My 10-year-old son, and I was I was so proud of him. I really didn't know

if he Would. There's one game, though, the Star Wars game that he didn't want to give up yet, so he's still holding on to that. And he actually was was trying to tell my six-year-old daughter who had she had kind of grown attached to this Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He he said, "Jasmine, Jasmine, it's weakening us and it's time to let it go." Wow. Oh my goodness. I love this call. Thank you, Summer, for taking this call. So phenomenal. I mean, it's like and people Don't understand because I I I was telling the story of

how my son was listening to a CD that had violence and and profanity in it. And I had him bring it over. And I first told him, I told him to hold bananas, these organic bananas next to his heart. And I he would hold his arm out and the muscle test. You can read about all of this in a book called Power Versus Force. You can get it through Hay House, by the way. It explains how to do all of that By Dr. David Hawkins. David Hawkins. Right. So I would bring him over my Strongs.

He was 16 or 17 at the time. Big strong strapping 6'1 kid. And um when I put the bananas on there, I couldn't budge his arm. But then when he held the CD in his hand, just the actual CD in his hand, he went weak. His arm went right down. And a lot of people find that difficult to grasp. But energy is in everything. And kinesiology teaches us how to go about doing that. But to have your 10-year-old son have that kind of an impact, an insight. So you could have lectured at him a thousand

times, Molina, and it never would have reached him. But for him to experience that, Yeah. Right. It was beautiful. And I I I just, you know, Oh, thank you for that update. That is so so wonderful. That's it's good lesson for everybody out there. Anything and it's again a part of in uh when I talk about in being in balance and that third um You can't kiss you can't kiss your own ear. One of the things I talk about is that if you think of yourself as a loving person but you are constantly immersing yourself

in violent movies and chase scenes and things that have guns and lots of killing and so on. That's the opposite of love. And it's like you really want to take a look at whether or not you are using uh this as an excuse for uh you know having things come into your uh into your heart and into your Life that are not loving at all. So you may not be nearly as loving as you as you think you are. Even when you read the newspaper like this morning I saw a headline in the paper that

talked about the Americans had killed 30 uh what they called insurgents with along with the Iraqis and I thought oh my goodness 30 30 dead people all of whom are just believing in what they believe in. You know, it's like you can't be a loving person. And in in the Dao, it says that All battles, no matter whether you are in the right side or the wrong side, all of them should be treated as a funeral. That there's nothing to celebrate when people are end up doing something violent to each other. Thank you, darling, for

that wonderful call. I really love it. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks so much, Melina. That was wonderful. So many times, uh, parents do call in wanting to know advice for kids. That was a great one. I think everyone Can apply that. I tell people all the time, if you've got kids who are doing video games, just do that with them. Do the do the muscle testing with them and let them see for their own eyes. And boy, what a perfect example of that. I'm glad we have that on the radio show. People can listen to

it. All right, we've got time for one more caller. We've got Dana from Bronx, New York. Dana, welcome to our program today. Hi, Dr. Dyer. Good evening. How are you? Hi, Dana. How are things in the Bronx? Are you at the zoo? Not too far from the zoo. I'm actually more closer to Manhattan naturally, but weather is fine here in the Big Apple and all is well. I I know you're wrapping up on the show, so I'll make this brief. For most of my adult life, I've been working in the corporate sector, corporate environment, but

I really want to transition into my own home business, but I'm scared to death knowing that I won't may have to Sacrifice a salary at least if I go into my own business and benefits. and I really want to make the transition, but there's something really preventing me from moving forward, you know, aside from this fear. And I was wondering if there are any words of wisdom you can share with me about. What is the business you want to start in your own home? Um, it's like more of a holistic practice in which I do

some massage therapy. Yeah. See, I I just sensed it In you. Uh, what is your first name? Dana. Dana. I sensed that the minute that you started talking, I said, "This is the person who has love to to give away." There's something in your voice. There's an aura in you. And I'm not psychic. I don't do readings like Sylvia and all that, but I just I felt very deeply and profoundly that you have an enormous amount of just loving kindness to give away. Even the way you just talked about the Bronx and where you are

And so on, that should be enough information for you to have to know that you're on the right path and and that it will work and that the biggest fear that you have is that you won't have the salary. But look beyond that and ask yourself, what is it that I'm really afraid? Is it am I afraid I'm not going to be able to feed myself or to pay my rent? And then take a look at how old are you? I'll be 39 next week. So in 39 years, Have you ever had any time in

your adult life when you haven't been able to feed yourself or take care of and be responsible for yourself? And the answer to that, I'm already sure is that you've already been always been able to handle it. So there's no reason for you to look back uh with anything other than total confidence that you'll be able to continue doing that uh whether or not a salary is coming or uh whether it's coming from your own business. But you Have uh great love to give away. That's what you have to give away. You have Oh my

goodness. And I I thank you for that. Um Dr. Dyer, in actuality. Okay. Well, I definitely Where are you from? Where are you originally from? New York City. From New York City. New York City. Born and raised. You have some there there's something there's something in you that do you feel that as well? Do you feel what I'm what I'm describing here? Do you do you feel like there's something That's inside of you that has to escape, wants to escape, wants to wants to serve, but uh you're holding it back? uh for ages. For ages,

especially over the past two years, in a sense, wanting this to grow, wanting my my abilities to grow, to to shed some light on it, to, you know, accentuate what I have and be able to share that with other people. So, and I and I can't do it in a stuffy corporate Yeah. environment. I got to go out. I'm surprised. I I mean, I I I know I was driving down the Long Island Expressway. You've probably done it. I was living out in Huntington, New York, and I was teaching at St. John's University. Oh. And

I had a position. I was the star there. It was 1971. Uh, you know, and and right up till 1975, I got promoted. I had tenure, you know, tenure, which is like a guaranteed job for the rest of my life, a guaranteed paycheck for the rest of my life. And something happened to me on the Long Island Expressway and I uh I drove into and I went into the dean's office. Her name was Sarah Fasen Meyer. And I told her I had to resign. I was writing your erroneous sounds and that I was going to

go out and I was going to be on my own. I was going to have to earn my own paycheck. I was going to have to figure out how to get uh my my healthc care insurance covered and you know and I was scared. But you know what? I made more money in the first year than I Had made the previous 30 years of my life. That gives me something to go by. Thank you so much. Thanks Dana for your call. Got to let you go. To watch another amazing Wayne Dyer radio show. Check the

video right there next to me. I think you'll love it. Continue to believe and I'll see you there. Dr. Dyer, welcome. Thank you, Summer. It's nice to be with you. How are you? Oh, I'm doing very well. Good. It's shaping up into a nice week already. Good. Isn't It nice when one day start out like