RFK Jr: Teaming up With Trump, Pavel Durov’s Arrest, CIA, and the Fall of the Democrat Party

We're honored to announce that J.D. Vance, the vice presidential nominee, is confirmed for a live tour stop in Hershey, Pennsylvania, next month. Tickets are on sale at Tucker carlson.com. We hope to see you there will be in cities all across the country starting next week. But first our interview with Bobby Kennedy Jr. His first since endorsing Donald Trump on Friday. Here it is. So people were shocked. I know a lot of people you know well, we're shocked when you endorse Trump. I was not shocked because for all the areas where you disagree on specific issues,

there's a consistent theme that I've noticed in both of your lives, which is you've both spent the majority of Your life, well, in your case, your whole life in the American ruling class. And both of you decided that it was corrupt and that you were going to say so out loud at great risk, at great risk to both of you. And so it was probably just a matter of time before you aligned in some way. Is that how you see it? Yeah. I mean, I You know, I think there's been a bunch of realignments about

political realignments by about 4 or 5 throughout American history. And I think we're going through one right now with the Democratic Party and with both political parties really changing in a very dramatic way. And you and I talked, earlier about the transformation of a Republican Party into the party of Environmentalism. Yeah. And, you know, the Democratic Party has one out, one environmental issue, which is carbon orthodoxy, which ends up benefiting, you know, the oil companies and Blackrock and, Goldman Sachs with offshore wind and carbon capture, you know, $100 billion carbon capture projects, which is just

a strip mining In the middle class. And that's the only issue you can talk about in the Democratic Party. I got into the environmental movement to do habitat protection and to do wildlife conservation, to get toxics out of our kids. Amen. And none of these are issues that Democrats. It's a party itself. Democrats care about them, but the Party itself doesn't. There's been these big, profound realignments. And it's not only on that issue. It's really the, you know, the domination of, this, this corrupt merger of state corporate power. And it's happening in Washington, DC now,

where, our democracy has really been subverted by The industries that have taken over the regulatory agencies and they and transform them into sock puppets or corporate profit taking and, and basically wholly owned subsidiaries of the industries they're supposed to regulate. And the Democrats, for a variety of reasons. And I watch it happen over many, many years, Have, have clung to this illusion of these democratic institutions that they're still democratic and they have a we all have the capacity to judge ourselves on our intentions rather than our actions. Right. And I've been there. So and the

Democratic Party judged itself. It sees itself, my friends who are Democrats see themselves as part of the the good guys, the white hats and that, you know, it's kind of like the, the good guys who are in Fort Apache surrounded by, you know, the, the forces of barbarism that are about to storm the gate. And they're the only ones the only Way to keep it at bay is to elect a president who, has dementia. And because you're voting for the apparatus. Yes. And you're not voting for, you know, even or another, than to handpick a

presidential candidate without any elections, to basically get rid of democracy in order to save it and handpick a candidate Who in 40 days now has not given a single interview on any media outlet. And I think about one my uncle and father would think about that. You know, they prided themselves on on being able to go on and debate was the centerpiece. You know, that a whole, you know, function of democracy was to a kneel ideas in the furnace of Debate and, and have them rise up and, you know, the marketplace of ideas and the

idea that, you know, and this British tradition of Churchill and the others and the House of Commons, you know, and, being able to defend their policies and being forced to defend their policy articulately, eloquently. And, you know, my uncle and father Just thought we should. Ideas are important and we should be able to defend them. And if you can't defend them, there's something wrong with you. Yes. And you know why. Oh, so we have, a, presidential candidate that was selected by the Democratic Party who can't do that. And, you know, one of the things that

my uncle and father were always Thinking about is how do we look to the rest of the world? Right? They they. Were conscious that America was the template for democracy. When we created our modern democracy in 1789 or 1791, when the Bill of rights was ratified. We were the only democracy on earth. I, 1865, During that endless civil war, there were five, and they were all modeled on America. And by the time my uncle took office, it was about 150. And by the time by the end of the 690, they're all based on an American

model. And, you know, we very much were the exemplary Nation. We were the example of democracy around the globe and people. And they were very conscious. They were, you know, they were embarrassed at first by the civil rights movement because they said, what is the rest of the world going to think about it? And then they realized what we better correct. You know the problem. Yeah. Because, but They everything that they did, they were conscious. They were being watched. Well, what is the rest of the world think of American democracy right now that, you know,

we have in one party, selected a man with dementia to lead the free world and then turned around, and picked a person, I Mean, who cannot give an interview. She cannot defend American her vision or America's right going in the world. And she gave this, you know, vice President Harris gave this speech, that convention that was written by neocons. And they had CIA directors talking at the at the Democratic Convention, military people talking at the Democratic convention. My father and my uncle were the party of anti-war. I an uncle, was asked by his best friend,

Bill Ben Bradley, one of his two best friends who ran the Washington Post. Yeah. What do you want on your graves? On your epitaph? And my uncle said immediately he kept the peace. He said the primary job of a president of the United States was to keep the country out of war. He said he didn't want children in Africa and Latin America and Asia. When they heard about the United States of America to think of a man with a gun, they wanted him to think of a Peace Corps volunteer and the Alliance for progress and

USAID, Which were programs that he created to build the middle class, to end run the oligarchs and run the military hunters. They used to receive U.S. aid and it said, go to the poor and build institutions, education and health and and all of the institutions of democracy to continue to model it for the rest of the world and live up to what We're supposed to be doing, which is to encourage the growth of, of democratic rule. So now you have a, you know, we have a system that's produced, people who, you know, candidate in the,

in the, the, the, the Democratic Party who, who can't even defend America's record in the world and who was who is parroting This kind of war mongering, you know, military domination ideology that's got us in such trouble. It's it's caused a calamity in our country. It's gutted the middle class. It's made us a pariah around the globe. It's great. And it led to the rise of BRICs. It's leading to the rise of Totalitarianism all over the world. And, you know, I'd say this finally at them, if you really look at what's happening in the Democratic

Party today, it's a party that the word diem us in Greek means people, but it's a party that has faith in the people. It's a party that needs. Ironclad control. So they didn't trust anybody to have a real election. They got rid of the primaries because they didn't trust the people. They then picked hand-picked Vice President Harris. With no election and even pretense of election. Because they didn't trust the people. And, you know, you have and they're the party now of Censorship. And how can you. Have a democracy with censorship? You cannot have a democracy.

And they're absolutely incompatible. And everybody knew that. Everybody, you know, you and I were raised reading or. Well, and Alice Huxley and, and, you know, Robert Heinlein and Alexander Solzhenitsyn and, And all of these other books that were part of classical literature that was taught in every American classroom. It said the first step to totalitarianism is always begins with censorship. It's the first step down that slippery slope. And there's no time that we look back in history and say that people who are censoring speech were the Good guys, are always the bad guys, because we

knew, you know, we know they're the guys who are going to end up cracking the whip on us all. And and you know, being our, our overlords. And so and then, you know, a whole thing about like you and I talked about that clip of, of, Tim what I'm saying that government should be the ultimate arbiter of what is protected speech and what is not. You know, he's a if something that the First Amendment does not protect misinformation and disinformation, but it does. The First Amendment was was written to protect not only true speech, but

false speech and speech. I not not it wasn't there. And it's unnecessary to protect the kind of speech that everybody wants to hear. It's there to protect the kind of speech that nobody wants to hear. Right. And especially speech that is critical of the people in charge. Exactly. So in their current formulation, misinformation is defined as any speech that Criticizes the guard that they're doing. So with that in mind, you see the Biden administration encouraging France, Macron to arrest the owner and founder of telegram, Pavel Durov, who's now as right now in a French prison.

That seems like I mean, that's the hallmark of dictatorship, it sounds to me. Yeah. Well, you know, we've Lost Europe. Europe is now had does not have free speech. You know, look what's happened to Elon Musk. And here Elon Musk should be here. Or the Democratic Party, the old Democratic Party would be the hero. Somehow he became a villain because he was actually the only the only platform that would allow this free speech on his platform. And he's now become a villain because of it, because the Democratic Party does not believe in the people. If

you don't, if you if you if you don't believe in free speech, it means because you don't trust the people, you don't trust them to figure it out on their own in order to to have information on which they can base their ideas and their notions and their beliefs. And their votes..... And their votes. And that the government has to, has to protect them from dangerous information, things that might put bad ideas into their heads. And it's very patronizing, but it's also very manipulative and conniving. And really, it's exactly the opposite of democracy. And you

will not find a single Democrat who will, who will criticize. It's really astonishing to me because. The Democrats always liked them. You know, when I endorsed Trump, the big, you know, kind of the the fulcrum at the centerpiece of that tax of hatred that I just kind of seething anger I'm so many Democrats was well, look what he did on January 6th. Okay. January 6th was a bad day in American history. And what President Trump did and my view was, was, was very bad. It was reprehensible. But it was was the Republic really at risk?

You know, we have the U.S. military with the National Guard. You have you know, they have all the institutions. We have Congress, we have all these institutions of government. And and there was a mob people, most of them probably didn't know what was happening. Some of them were very badly intentioned. We're breaking the law, but it wasn't a threat to the Republic. What is a threat? And this is what I you cannot explain to a Democrat now. And it's astonishing to me what is threat is when the government is censoring your speech or political speech.

And, you know, I just won Tucker last week, but that. Was the centerpiece of democratic ideology, was free speech. Exactly. I mean, the word liberal means free speech. That's where it comes from. Oh, is that must be weird for you being named Robert F Kennedy Jr and spending your entire life in this world like what he said, like. It, it. I mean, I you know, I. Let me just say this. I won a lawsuit. I want a new judgment. And my lawsuit. Kennedy versus Biden last week. And and Kennedy versus Biden is part of two

lawsuits that were brought, one by the attorney generals of Missouri and Louisiana and the other by me for the same issue, which was the Biden administration's censorship of speech. And so there's a series of decisions. There's a 155 page decision, the the attorney general's case, one up to the Supreme Court and was rejected because they, the Supreme Court found that those attorney generals didn't have standing to. So because they weren't directly arm my case this week, the federal judge Doty said Kennedy doesn't say any to so, and he reinforced recently Issued his injunction against the

Biden administration. So I have an administrative, an injunction right now against the Biden White House and join them from censoring me, which they've been doing. They the the 155 page decision by Judge Doty details everything that happened 37 hours after he took the oath of office. President Biden's White House opened up a portal for the FBI to begin to have access to social media posts on all the different social media sites, and they the FBI, then invited in the CIA. DHS, the IRS, and PSI. PSI say is this new agency That is the center of

the censorship industrial complex that is in charge of making sure Americans don't hear things that their government doesn't want them to hear? And those agencies and other agencies, including the health agencies like CDC, were given access to go into the social media sites and change posts and slow Walk things and, and shadow ban pose that it was part of that effort. And they removed my Instagram account. I had almost a million followers. I they say it was for misinformation, but they could not point to a single post that I ever made that was factually erroneous.

And they actually Facebook pushback and the email chain. You can see Facebook pushing back at the white House and saying, well, wait a minute. He's not this isn't misinformation and this is not actually erroneous. What they're saying is actually true. And they had to invent a new word which is called mal information, which is information that is Factually true but nevertheless inconvenient for the government. And that became disinformation, misinformation and mal information. That's what that is. So that everybody and- Isn't that that's a lie. And yet and the emails show that Facebook the people said

this these they were saying about the white House in Their private emails with each other. These people are cynical, you know, terrible people. And they knew what they were doing was breaking the law, but they were under tremendous pressure. Facebook has all these deals with the government and, you know, as do all the media companies with the intelligence agencies and and elsewhere. Last they were the white House was overtly telling them that they were going to, if they didn't comply, that their section 230 immunity was in jeopardy. A section 30 immunity, as they, you know,

is, is, and just so that your listeners know what it is, I used to write for the New York Times regularly. Every time I wrote an article, lawyers would call me and fact check everything in that article, because if I wrote something that was the obituary in that article and somebody was defamed, that person could sue me. But they could also say The New York Times. Oh, the social media side Said, we cannot hire lawyers to look at every post and call the people and check on it when, you know, on Facebook or Instagram. So

if this industry is going to function, we need to be able to not be liable for what is published on our site. And that is called section 230, the Communications Act, a Congress that if you are just A platform, a media platform that, for other people to publish, like Facebook is like Instagram, like Twitter or act that you you're immune. Nobody can sue you. They can sue the person who wrote the post. They can't sue. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said if they take Away our Facebook, our section 230 immunity, it is existential, meaning we will

no longer exist. And so they were terrified because Congress was actually considering removing section 230 immunity, and the white House was telling them, if you don't censor our political critics, we're going to take away your section 3230 a minute if President Trump did that. The Democrats would go berserk. Well, that's criminal behavior. It's criminal. Does that is a criminal right there. Right there, violating the First Amendment of the Constitution, for starters. Yeah. And, so that's what happened. And the you know, my my idea is that if somebody does Something bad, it shouldn't matter whether they're

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life. Like how do they not see that? How do people who say they believe in civil liberties suddenly think it's okay for the government to prosecute its political opponents and silence them? How do they think that? You know, to me, it's a it's a I've, I've thought a lot about that I bet. And it's about it's about tribalism and, you know, that people put themselves in these tribal categories and we're hardwired for tribalism. That's why orthodoxies are so popular that, you know, people get sucked into various kinds of orthodoxies, whether it's ideological orthodoxy or religious

orthodoxies. And, and that impulse Is really is not a religious impulse. It's a biological handballs. And it's an impulse that's hard wired in us. On the 20,000 generations we spent wandering the African savanna and tiny little groups that were warring each other, where there was always a male leader, where at where, you know, the women were traded as chattels because you couldn't marry your sister. So you knew from the beginning she was going to be a trade. Good. And you were going to trade her for somebody else. She was had no power. And, and where

you all had to ascribe to an orthodoxy and see no problems with people who were within your, your in-group and people who were outside were Subhuman, and they could be killed. And if they made a mistake, you know, you wanted to talk about, everybody would talk about it. We're all hardwired that way because that's where our, you know, our, our wiring comes from. And when somebody gets subsumed in our orthodoxy, it's very, very difficult to unravel. And there are all kinds of psychiatric Treatises about how do you deprogrammed somebody, you know, how do you, how

do you talk somebody out of an orthodoxy and and you know what, the little that I know about it is that if you challenge them directly, you challenge their beliefs, and it puts concrete on it, and it makes them less able to move off, They get very defensive. And, you know, the way to approach them, there are ways to approach them. There's deprogramming, protocols. And they usually include a lot of Socratic method of asking them questions about their belief. But it's a one on one, it's one on one project enterprise. And it's not something that

you can do the whole Democratic Party Overnight. Something has to happen that's going to make this, you know, this, this tribal thinking unravel because it's really destroying our country. And the polarization which is happening on both sides is, is put on steroids by these social media algorithms that, that reward people for staying on the Side as long as possible. So they the algorithm or the algorithm knows this. I've got to keep as many eyeballs on that side as possible. It turns out that the way people stay on this site is if you fortify their existing

opinion. Of course, if you feed them and if you feed them information that consolidates their worldview. Yes. And so, you know, We have this problem now where it's not just polarization like the Civil War, but it's polarization on steroids, because you've got machines that are that are manipulating us to hate each other more every single day. So knowing all this as you do and have for a long time, the, you know, the most radical step you can make if you're a Democrat is endorsing Donald Trump. So there are political calculations involved. There are ideological calculations,

but they're also, of course, personal calculations. How you so, you know, once you do that, you've burned your boats like that's it. You're not going back to wherever you were ten years ago. How hard a decision was that for you personally? It was a very it was an obvious Decision for me. It should have been. But it was a very, very difficult decision. And we had you know, I have a very, very good team around me. And, I was most worried about my wife. What was I about, Sheryl? You know, well, you know, it was

not comfortable, but. And she is a, you know, a lifelong Democrat, she comes from not the aristocracy. She comes from a very, you know, I would say poor family and in Florida. But she. She found her way through. Through idealism to the Democratic Party. And that And she shares a lot of those values. And her industry is very, very much, aligned with the Democratic Party, probably more than any industry in our country and more than any, town in our country. This, but for me was like, you know, have huge impacts on her. And ultimately, if

she had told me you can't do this, I wouldn't have done it. So, but, I'm very I'm very grateful that she overcame. She allowed me to do what she was, embracing it. But she said, I understand why you have to do this. And, her. And we had a four day meeting and up in Hyannis Port, my, my aunt, everybody, My family members, my kids, many other people, Tony Robbins, attended remotely and a number of other kind of spiritual leaders, just people who cared deeply about our country, chimed in and and made the case on both

sides. And people from the organizers that campaign organization that, He here was a calculus that ultimately was persuasive for me. My, if I all of our internal polling showed from the outset and if I say in, in the Democratic Party, I was going to get, president, vice President Harris elected 57 to 60% and even more, sometimes up to 66% Of my voters. My followers said that if I withdrew from the election, they were going to vote for Trump, which is ironic, by the way, Tucker, because President Trump and the RNC did nothing to prevent me

from being on the ballots. They didn't have a big major organization and Senate private and private eyes out. You know, I the Democratic Party was interviewing literally everybody I've ever met in 70 years. It dawned on me, I, I got a. Call. They've been doing that. I know for a fact for over a year, as you know. Yeah. And they had they were open about this. What we're going to do, they put a person in charge of it named Liz Smith, who is, you Know, who's I just the kind of person she is. She. This

is what she know. She does negative research on people and tries to characterize Smith. Eliot Spitzer's old girlfriend. Yes. And she was in charge of that team. And then there was other people as well. Mary Beth Cahill and my Uncle Daddy's chief of staff, who I know, and Liz Smith was in charge of that. You know, the negative reviews or what they call negative research euphemistically. And I got calls from, you know, for example, a guy that I met at an AA meeting 40 years ago and he received a call. Oh, most of my family

members received calls on contacts, either texts or telephone calls from people who said, I'm Doing intelligence for the DNC. And, you know, we'd like to talk to you about Robert Kennedy and if you have any negative information about him. Oh, I was getting of, you know. What could possibly the justification for that? Well, they didn't want me running. And that's the thing is, it's not democratic. It wasn't. You know. That's such a mafia tactic. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, but the point is, it was weird. It was it was not smart because I was actually

helping the Democrats. And if they just let me stay and they didn't run this campaign against me, they probably would win this election. And because I was hurting Trump, oddly, Trump didn't do anything about it. He's you know, he was kind of, he made a couple of statements about me that I was a communist, etc., that they were sort of good natured, you know, the stuff that you that you're like, okay, that's okay. They weren't like calling my old girlfriends, saying, you know. What? You know, what did he tell her? Or, you know, whatever what

they were, ask him. Oh, but the DNC was up to that. And. And were you shocked by that? Was I shocked? I don't know. I mean, I feel like I'm in a place now. Nothing surprises me. I bet you are. oh. But. I don't know. I mean, I, I anyway, so they're going to. Drop all that stuff now, obviously. Right. What? You know, get rid of Liz Smith and Put her on some other project. I don't know. I just you sort of wonder how will Smith live with her. I mean, that's so repulsive. Like, how

does she justify that to herself? I have to. I mean, I matter, she's not stupid. But that is disgusting. No, I mean, you've lived a life famously, and If you have a team of researchers digging into it, and. I have not led a careful life, by the way. I know. I said, you know, my first. I was mad during my announcement speech. I said, you know, I had told my wife and Charlotte a couple days before. I said, I have so many skeletons in my closet that if they could vote, I could run for the

world. Oh, I know, I know, stuff is going to come out about maybe because I let let me put it a colorful life. Yeah. And, and, you know, people have all kinds of stories about me, but so I was I'm ready for, you know, I'm ready for I was I never done anything criminal in terms of, like, stealing money or self-enrichment. I did a lot of stupid stuff and a lot of. Have you gotten rich off pointless foreign wars? No, I have not done that. Oh you haven't. Okay. You haven't force people to inject substances

in their bodies. Okay. I've never done that. But anyway, so it became clear to me that. If if Kamala got elected, The issues that I cared about, which is ending the foreign wars, you know, the the unjust wars in World war is the wars of choice, like Ukraine. Stopping the censorship, which I think is existential for our democracy and then protecting children from this extraordinary exploding chronic disease epidemic. Those are the three reasons that got Me into the campaign. That's why I ran for president. Those three reasons. I think if you got elected, I'm 70

years old, that eight years from now, our kids are going to be lost and that and if she's president for eight years, my chance to do anything about it would be gone. Yes. And that. And then I got A contact from Kathleen Means who you know. Well, you've, you know, made one of the best of the best shows, ever put on TV ever aired. Was your interview with Galloway and his wife, Casey and Carly? For those of you who haven't seen this, his show is a, is an expert, a genius, brilliant, articulate, Eloquent, and incredibly

encyclopedic knowledge on the food system and what is corrupting it. What is causing the corruption at FDA, at USDA, that the capture of those agencies by the processed food industry, by the chemical industry, by that pharmaceutical industry that actually on sick children, one of the things that Carly says, There is nothing more profitable in our society in a sick child because it all of these entities are making money on them. The insurance companies, the hospitals, the medical cartel, the pharmaceutical companies have a lifetime annuities. I mean, any child that and their earlier that kid is

sick. They don't want to kill them. I want them sick for the rest of Their lives. And we have now a whole generation. When my uncle was, 6% of Americans had chronic disease. They had 60% when my uncle was president. You know what the the, the cause, the annual cost of treating chronic diseases was in this country. Zero. There weren't even any drugs invented for it. Zero. Today, it's about $4.3 trillion. When your uncle- Is President, none of it is necessary. What was the autism rate in 1962? Now, in 1960, the autism rate was about

four five stories. And the the the the highest rates say about 1 in 25, 1 in 1500, 1 in 2500, 1 in 10,000. oh. So that, you know, it was it was somewhere between one 1501, in 10,000. Today, it's one in every 34 kids, according to the CDC. And in some states, like California, I think maybe Utah and New Jersey, one at 22, 1 in 22 kids. And, you know, These kids should be healthy. These kids shouldn't be harmed. Our highest performing kids and A and Z are, you know, have this extraordinary disability that's going

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and it need are made to save all of these kids. I would do anything for. I would literally do anything for it. We are talking breakfast. I'm sure your perception is different because we're talking about you. But, you know, for 15 years anyway, there was not a single story about you that didn't dismiss you as a dangerous crackpot for questioning why autism is much more common than it Once was. Much more, I mean, exponentially more common. And you've written a lot about this, and you were attacked. I don't see those attacks very much anymore. Well,

they're still in the mainstream media. That's still part of the, you know, the litany of, of of my crimes. But, you know, anybody who uses Their any innate and that's one of the reasons they won't let me speak on the media. I mean, when, when Ross Perot ran, he he was running for ten months. He was on mainstream media 34 times. Interviews. And you remember him? He was on it seemed like he was on Larry King every week. Worse. But. And I in 16 months, I had to have interviews on all of those networks ABC,

NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, two, and I and the and, you know, they're just basically mouthpieces now for the DNC. And there was this obligatory litany of defamation and pejorative that were used to describe me anytime I mentioned my name was Mentioned, you know, and I was I'm not a crackpot. And, you know, it's like a supervillain. And I'm not complaining because that's that's just, you know, I knew what I was getting into. But anyway, the idea had, you know, I had these meetings with President Trump, and they were partly because of you, you know, you

were the one who I, Carly Maines, called me about. I'd say three hours after President Trump was shot. Ally means call, although it doesn't seem possible because I think it was only three hours after the shooting. And Saturday night. Yeah. Saturday night. And and and Kelly said to me, you know, he told me he'd call. He'd been advising me for a long time. And my campaign, he told me that night, I've also been, I've been advising President Trump, which delighted me because I thought, oh, my gosh, there's another candidate beside me that is is listening

to the truth. And, he said that, that there Was interest in the Trump campaign by the press and of, of including me and it he talked about vice president. Which I wasn't interested in. And but he said, you know, would you be interested in talking with the Trump, with President Trump? And I said, I don't think so. And then and part of this was I Just thought it was an onslaught. It was Cheryl and I called Cheryl up and she, said to me, you should hear them out. I immediately called Carla. I texted Carly back

and said, I'm interested. And then I got a text from you. Well, then you and I have each other cell phones. And you had an unknown cell phone Number, which you would like me into, which was President Trump's number. And you said, you know, he's waiting for your call. And so I called him and I had a great conversation with him. And, he and he has we decided to talk. And I met him the next day. He was at that point at, Bedminster, which is, is Golf course and home in new Jersey. And he had

he driven there from Butler where he had been shot. And then I went to, and so I flew out to many Minneapolis the next day, and I had a, probably a two hour meeting with him. And Amaryllis is my daughter in law who is running my campaign, the Smartest person I've ever met, and Cheryl and Susie Wiles and and it was a really interesting meeting because he was so open about. I'm about, first of all, not liking the neocons. Yeah. And, you know, I never imagined that because I, you know, for me, he was the

guy who brought John Bolton and Mike Pompeo into office and, you know, but he was, really, disillusioned with them, to say the least, you know? And then, you know, he was he was, deeply interested and and well-informed, as he is on, you know, as much as he is on any subject, about what was happening to our Kids, chronic disease. And then he was absolutely adamant about stopping that censorship and, you know, and making sure that we had free speech. And so we talked a little then and, didn't really come to any, you know, talked about

the possibility of working together after that and that. But then we we put it On hold. They wanted me to do something. I had the convention. I said, now I'm not going to do that. And and we still at that point, there was still a chance that I could get into the debate, although I chance was diminishing and because I was not allowed on any media and because, you Know, my really my only chance of winning the election, I believe I would want to find him on the debate stage. And my only chance was again

on the debate stage. And it was that was that, possibility was vanishing. And, so I was looking at kind of my options. I then contacted Harrison's campaign because I Thought I should talk to them and see if they're interested in any of these issues, which I suspect they were not, because a camera is still an empty, you know, an empty slate. Kamala. Excuse me? It was empty slate. So, you know, it just. Pronounced it both ways herself. So it's okay. It's it's, You know, I want to. I want to respect people and give them. Yes.

You know, so. I reached out to her and I reached out through a number of people, including some relatives of mine, very, very close to her personally and at the Democratic Party. And they just said, that's a nonstarter. There's no way in the world that she's going to talk to you. And they said, you can. We can get you a meeting with a low level campaign official. And I said I'm okay. I'm not interested in that. Why wouldn't that's. That's interesting. Why wouldn't Kamala Harris meet with you? Maybe the same reason that she hasn't given

an interview. And I think it seems to me that there's a lot of handlers involved and that and, you know, even when you talk to Democrats about, you know, do you really think it's a good idea to be electing somebody who can I give an interview? They say, well, you're not electing or you're electing the people around here. You're letting the apparatus and the apparatus, but the apparatus, apparatus I don't have any faith in. It's an apparatus running that are neocons, like, you know, like Anthony Blinken and, and who are, you know, running us right

up into a World War three, and they're people who, you know, Who masterminded the censorship from inside the white House. That's the apparatus that they want to reelect. And to me, that's an apparatus that has no it believes that people are censoring the people who try to throw me out of the party who canceled the primaries. That's the apparatus. You know, if it was a Democrat who's had I can think on my own. I understand what this country is supposed to look like, understand what democracy is supposed to look like. And I, you know, and

I think that's great. Great. Let's do. That. But it's just it's strange from her perspective. First of all, electing apparatus is not how democracy works. That's an oligarchy, just in Point of fact. But as a political calculation, your presence in the race running third party hurt Trump. No one disputes that. The polling is really clear on that. So if you're the Harris campaign, kind of a win, right, to get some alignment with you, why even human curiosity you'd think would compel her to want to meet with you, like Take a meeting, like, why do you

care? But she didn't even talk to you. I think that's I think it's very weird. It's weird, but not I mean, I can't stress that not not being able to give an interview. I mean, your your whole life is in public life. That's what you do. That is the. Currency. Right? I give, I give, you know, this day is a religious holiday because I'm doing one interview with, you know, and on a typical day I do about 7 or 8 interviews, some days 10 or 12. And I do that every day and every 16 months.

I if anybody else wants me, I mean, we have less now 4000 People. I interview me, but we're I'm interviewing as many people as possible. So I want to get my voice out, my vision out, my concerns out. And I it's incomprehensible to me, that you would be in public life. And President Trump does the same thing. He's not scared of an interview. No. He likes to see of on. Yeah, he's on you. He said he does. Anybody he does. People who don't agree with them. He's not he's not censoring. You know he's doing you

know, he's talking to reporters who write crappy articles about him all the time, you know, from, New York Magazine. Maggie Haberman at the New York. Times, New York Maggie Haberman has never written a nice word about Donald Trump, and he talks to her. I often a lot. Yeah, a lot. So, you know, it's an. You know, my Uncle daddy, who was exactly opposite of Ronald Reagan Ideologically. And he ran against Carter. Yeah. Daddy, dad and Carter. And he had an antipathy toward each other that was almost like nothing I'd ever seen. Teddy. Really? That he

didn't hate people, but he really, I would say, loathed Carter. He just had. He had complete disdain for him and I. And he. Then why he liked Reagan and because I was more ideologically aligned at that point. I was I'd say, you know, why do you like Reagan? And he said, because even though I don't agree with anything, he said he was able to invigorate our country. He was able to inspire people. He got people excited about his vision and proud To be Americans. And that is one of the functions of a president is to

explain to us why we should be proud of each other, and why we are part of a community, and why our country is great. And you know what our future is going to look like and get us and, you know, inspire all of us with that vision. And that is what a real leader Does. How in the world can you do that if you cannot give an interview to it, to a news worker, to a. Friendly news, or to a. Friendly news? It can't even do a set up interview in 40 days. I saw the

only interview she did that was unscripted was when she got off a plane. I think it was the Andrews Air Force Base. And and so there was a reporter waiting there and that, you know, and one question, what are you going to do an interview? She said, I've told my team that to try to get one done before September. This was the 3rd of August. And I'm doing, I'm doing, you know, 7 or 8 interviews a day. Tells you a lot. And I'm. And I'm not, you know, blowing my own horn or anything. I'm just

saying that's what you do if you're in public life. And what's the point of being in public life if you don't want to promote your vision, if you have other people? Yeah. Well, that I mean, so, it yeah, I, I'm sure this Is a sense of shock, but I can't help but notice that you ran for 15 months with no Secret Service protection role. You were denied that by the Biden administration. Yeah. Trump during the convention in Milwaukee last month noted that in public they immediately under pressure responding, gave you Secret Service. Yes. Now they've

withdrawn it. You're without it again? Yeah. Is that true? Yes. Meanwhile, Tony Fauci has it. He's not a federal employee anymore. I think Mike Pompeo has Secret Service protection. Former CIA director. But you don't. How is that? I think the, You know, I'm technically still running for president. I'm running for president in 30, say, 40 states. So, I'm not you know, I did not, I did not terminate my my campaign. Did you know. That? No, I didn't. Yeah. So, you know, I'm running in the I There's there's ten states where I heard President Trump and

they're battleground states. Oh, I've taken my name off the ballot in those ten states. But in the blue states, all blue states are red states. I'm on the ballot. And I could technically win a contingency election if the other two vote, you know, and and a the other two get 269 apiece. And, and then Congress cannot work out a compromise, which is entirely possible. They have to go to the third vote getter, which would be me. And that's why I left my name on the ballot in those states. And so, you know, that's highly unlikely

to happen, but it has happened twice before in American history. And actually and our polling now shows them at exactly 269 to 269. Oh, it is possible that it would happen in this. So and so. All right. So and I you know, we work this out with the Trump campaign. They only want it off in ten states. That's what you heard. I mean the other states People can vote for me. And and they're not going to hurt their candidate. They if they can vote for me, even if they like president Vice President Harris and without

her hurting her. And they can vote for me if they like President Trump without hurting em, because we already know what's going to happen in those states. Yes. I'm. So all the more reason that you should have what Tony Fauci has and what Mike Pompeo has in a lot of other, by the way, non-current federal employees have, which is government bodyguards, but they withdrew them immediately from you. So what's the message of that? Well, the message, I think is a bad message, which is that our of our Federal enforcement agencies have been weaponized against the

American people. I mean, again, politically weaponized politically, not against the American people, politically. When my father took office in the Justice Department, and my father was appointed U.S. Attorney general in 1961 by my uncle, his brother and my father, the first week in Office, he had run my uncle's campaign. So he was a political guy. He called together all the division chairs, all the, branch chiefs in the DOJ. And he made it into his big, cavernous office. And he said to them, we're going to make one rule here, which is there is no politics. We

never ask whether a potential defendant is Democrat or Republican. The people of this country have to know that they're enforcement institutions, the Department of Justice, as are, our are the justices blind? Here we are, free of any kind of political prejudice or Ipob or bias or favoritism. And they started putting in jail. He prosecuted my uncle on My mother's side, for antitrust violations. And he prosecuted friends of his friends of his father's. And father did not want him to prosecute. And they just said it doesn't matter. We've got it. We've kind of applied it even

handily, because the American people need to understand that their institutions are Are free. We need to respect them and know that they're not biased in one way. And we're losing that now in our country. And the Biden administration has really accelerated at the most. The most shocking thing to me, and Democrats can't even hear this story because it touches so many sort of culture war buttons. But it's it's a true story. People, we don't need to understand it and appreciate it. In a 2020 election, when, when a Hunter Biden's laptop a week before that and

we only know this, this whole story. Recently, because of a release of documents. But the one President Biden's 100 By Biden's laptop suddenly became an issue about a week before the debate. And Anthony Blinken was now that secretary of state and who was then the director of President Biden's campaign, went to Gina Haspel, who is the head of this director of the CIA, and and said to her, we need help with this. She then got 51 CIA, current and former CIA officers to sign a public letter, which they published, I think, in The New York

Times. But they published it somewhere that, that said that Hunter Biden's laptop was a Russian hoax. That was part of a Russian discernment, disinformation effort to tamper with the, with the presidential election Campaign. So you had the CIA, which is forbidden by its charter. From involving itself in any American politics. And you had 51 top officers, former and current, who now do a disinformation campaign against the American public to tamper with the election while accusing the Russians of tampering With the election. And then a week later, President Biden, when he's asked about his laptop on

the debate, he says that has been debunked by the CIA. I think you CIA officers. And that was the end of the issue, as it was about all the newspapers picked that up. And it's highly likely that that had an impact on the election. So, you know, we that was the on tray of President Biden getting into office. And again, there's you know, Democrats who hear me say that story are going to say, oh, he's just saying that because, you know, he's a Republican now right. Which I'm not. But that's what they say. But it's

not that. It's just that this was wrong. The big tech companies censor our content. I hate to tell you that it's still going on in 2024, but you know what? They can't censor live events. And that's why we are hitting the road on a full tour for the entire month of September. Coast to coast will be in cities across United States. We'll be in Phenix with Russell Brand, Anaheim, California, with Vic Ramaswamy, Colorado Springs with Tulsi Gabbard, Salt Lake City with Glenn Beck, Tulsa, Oklahoma, with Dan Bongino, Kansas City with Megan Kelly, Wichita with Charlie

Kirk, Milwaukee, with Larry Elder Rosenberg, Texas, with Jesse Kelly, Grand Rapids, with kid Rock, Hershey, Pennsylvania, with JD Vance. Redding, Pennsylvania, with Alex Jones. Fort Worth, Texas, with Roseanne Barr. Greenville, South Carolina, with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Sunrise, Florida, with John Rich. Jacksonville, Florida, with Donald Trump, Jr. You can get tickets at Tucker carlson.com. Hope to see you there. And so the CIA, I mean, a lot of roads lead back, unfortunately, To our most powerful intelligence agency would, if you were asked, would you run it? Would you become CIA director? If you were. Asked, I would

never get, yes, I would, but I would never get Senate confirmation. As you know, the intelligence agency, are protected by, by very, very powerful committees in the Senate and in the House that are already into the project. And the people who serve on those committees are, are are people who wouldn't, you know, they would not they they would. There's a safeguarding that director. I mean, I would be very, very dangerous for those, this committee. So I don't think that, and yet. In his, you know, In your joint, appearance on Friday, President Trump introduced you by

saying that he plans to, if elected, establish a commission to declassify the remaining documents on your uncle's murder in 1963. Yeah. And I and I think everyone at this point knows the truth, which is the CIA is implicated in that. Those documents protect CIA, maybe Among others. Well, whether they do or not, I mean, it's odd that they've not allowed them to be released, because. What could possibly be. The case more than six years after my uncle's 65 years, oh, 62 years after his death, and none of the people who were implicated in that crime

are alive now. Yeah, the last ones have died off as a year or so and so and it clearly is. And, to protect the institution. Yes. And that's wrong. Is is wrong and as wrong for a Democrat as wrong for Republic. It's just interesting, though, that a bipartisan list of presidents lo these, these six Decades have kept those files classified. Well, you and I have both. I was astonished that Trump, didn't declassify him because he promised during the campaign. That was Mike Pompeo who did that. Yeah. And that and that. I talked to President Trump

for the first time about that this week. And what do you say? He said that, He said that Mike Pompeo begged him to, and I don't think I'm telling tales out school. No, I think they told the same thing to you. That's true. But he said Mike Pompeo had called him and said this wouldn't be a catastrophe. To release it, you need to not do it. And that and. I want to say again, I think Mike Pompeo was a criminal. So that's my view. He threatened to sue me for saying that, but I hope he

will, because it's true. But that that kind of tells the whole story right there, right? That the CIA. Is. Oh, yeah. So that's why would the CIA be trying to keep these files classified if they had nothing to do With the murder? I don't really get that. Yeah. And the subject we were talking about was the weaponization of federal agency, and that's just one of them. And then then they get, you know, then they open up these censorship portals. The 37 hours after President Biden takes office, where how are you of the FBI involved in

American politics? And, you know, which, we ran them out in the 60s, you know, because we were outraged that they were even or bugging Martin Luther King in the Black Panther Party. And Americans were indignant about that. Why are they think there's I mean, why have we gotten to the point where it's so normalized and now we're okay with the FBI running a portal to censor Political speech our country and then inviting him, the CIA and say, I and the IRS, I don't know what they were doing in there. And I h and, you know,

CDC and all these other agencies, DHS, which all had a hand in censoring American speech. So that was another thing. And then the Use, you know, which we saw for the first time in American history of the, of the judiciary, to, to to get rid of candidates, you know, what they tried to do to me? They're suing me now, and I and a dozen states I've, I've been in trials for the past three weeks. You know, I've spent most of my time not campaigning, But being a sitting in court, in cases that are trying to

get me off the ballot. So, like, well, I had a million people, a million American citizens sign petitions, more than any candidate in history. Everybody said, I'd never do this. The impossible would be in the ballot in $0.50. Well, guess what we got on the ballot in 50 states, And we did it by getting a million citizens to sign a petition saying that they wanted to vote for me. And the Democratic Party now is suing me. And although stage, to make sure that those people cannot vote for the person they wanted. When I was growing

up, the Democratic Party, oh, well, RFK and JFK was the Party that was fighting for voting rights. It was. Heading to make sure that every American could vote for the candidate of their choice, no matter whether you're black or white, or whether they lived a Democrat. Republican. Now the Democratic Party, today's Democratic Party, feels so unconfident about the candidates that it's Putting forward, and it feels the only way it can win the election is by getting rid of the opponents. And, and, you know, either using the courts against President Trump to lock him in jail

and embarrass and humiliate and discredit him, or using the courts against me to, just to throw me off the ballot. Even though The voters in New York said I had to get 45,000 ballot signatures and 13 congressional districts, I got, I got 137,000 and all, 26 congressional districts. I did twice what anybody wants. And we did it easy because people wanted to see him on the ballot. New Yorkers wanted to see me on the Ballot. Why is the Democratic Party suing me in frivolous cases? What? And a whole week in in a trial for that

case, for two cases they brought and another week in another trial or another. Can you to pay for this? It's causing me $10 million to defend myself. But on what grounds are they suing You like you don't? They don't like you. So you don't have a right to be on the ballot or what? What where in New York State are suing me by they they can't challenge our signatures because we got five times as many signatures as we required. So, you know, normally what they were doing in the first place or taking Out the signatures

and they were calling everybody, they can get their numbers and they can get their, you know, cell phones, etc. and we're contacting everybody in the segment and trying to talk them out of it, trying to say, get them to say, you know, you're hurting democracy. And, you know, you should, you know, weren't you fooled when you did as To try to, they they never succeeded. Oh, they're they're in New York State. They're suing me because they say that I did not. I don't live in New York State. I don't I have three residences. One is

in New York, one is in my home in Massachusetts, which, you know, is part of my Family compound that we've on for, you know, 100 years and, and, and in California, where I live, which I also I moved to Charlotte, California in 2014. So ten years ago an I lived in New York all my life. I lived there since I was ten. My father ran for Senate there and Was the senator. I moved there when I was ten. I've only voted in New York. I've always considered myself a New York resident. I've lived in the

same town for 40 years in Bedford. I've lived in 13 different residents in that town at various times. And but I always wanted to stay there. And when I moved out west with Cheryl, I made an agreement with her that, you know, when she retires, I'm back to New York because I feel like I'm a New Yorker. I didn't I didn't want to vote in California because I don't know anything about the politics of. I was raised in New York. I know all the politics, all the politicians. And so I wanted to vote. I kept

an address there. I voted that address. That's my only place I've ever voted. I my car is registered there, my driver's license is there, my law office is there. I pay income tax almost all my entire income taxes from New York State. My all licenses there. I don't have a law license in California. And, my hunting license is there, my fishing license. Most importantly, I- Falconry license there. So I have all my birds there. You know, I keep them there. And so, you know, there's telling me saying I'm not a real New Yorker. I'm, I'm,

you know, I can drive the address out of fraud and it's a sham. And, here's the thing is, and I consulted a lawyer when I, when we declared independent, began getting ballot signatures, I consult the best ballot access attorney in the country, Paul Rossi. And I said, I get these three different residences. Which one do I put on the ballot? You have to put the same residents in all 50 states. So you can't choose another resident. You know you can't. I can't put California in one state and Massachusetts and others in New York. I have

to tell the people. Otherwise I'm lying to somebody, right? Right. So in a couple of states, for example, Maine, where we are right now, and in New Hampshire, those states say the only place you can put down Is your domicile is the place where you vote. And in New Hampshire, I actually had to take an oath in front of a notary that I voted in New York because otherwise I could not put it down. So I had to put New York in every state, because I had to put it in Maine and New Hampshire and

a bunch of others, because you have to Put the place you vote. Anyway, the DNC is suing me, saying I defrauded the public because I really live in California. And they got a, you know, they got a judge who is, you know, right out of the Democratic machine and who violated the Constitution and every president to say, yeah, they're right. So, you know, I lodged in the lower Court, which is what happens. We're doing that we're losing in these lower courts. And then we within the appeals, there's a 100% chance of winning the appeal. But

they don't care because it's going to take me a while. And they got the headlines and he was thrown off for fraud. So these I mean, I saw Kamala Harris just the other night, and her convention speech, talk about how Voting access is like a. I know that I was in court in New York, you know, trying to get on a ballot while she. Well, that are the tired the judge. The John Lewis voting access Act we're going to get through. Everybody has a right to vote. Yeah. It's not except for their opponents. So does

this. It feels to me like this is, you know, obviously it's a big political story. You're endorsing Trump. It's a big, big change in your life as a lifelong Democrat, still a Democrat. But, it also feels like, as you said at the outset. I'm an independent Out.so, I registered as an independent when I ran. And when I talk with President Trump, the you know, the thing that we talked about is that, you know, we were going to do a unity government, with the independent, not not the kind of endorsement that a lot of people make

on an endorsement, like Abraham Lincoln's team of rivals, where we would be able to continue To differ publicly on issues, but that we would on the issues that we agree on, that we were going to strive to get into government together in order to make sure that those issues are, you know, or, you know, are the priority for our country. And, you know, he was really good about that and about, you know, me being able to continue on. There's some issues. There's a lot of issues like the border where we agree and, you know, censorship,

the wars, the neo cons that, you know, forever wars, child health epidemics, those are the most important issues. There's other issues that I and I'm going to disagree on with President Trump. But he was happy with that. And that's how our country ought to be. We ought to be able to. So what is this realignment that you mentioned at the outset? Because this does feel like it's bigger than just this November? Yeah, I mean, there's been a series of these realignments throughout American history. And, you know, there there's history books that are written about, you

know, the the realignment of I think there's about five of them. And, and I one of those is clearly happening now because you, you see, on so many issues, you know, the he you've had an inversion. The Democratic Party has become the party of the elites, used to be the party, the poor and the working class. In fact, there was a study that came out just recently that I, saw that showed That 70% that the people who voted for Biden on 70% of the wealth in this country, the people voted for Trump on 30%. And,

and so. I believe. That. Right. So you're seeing this realignment happened where the elites where Wall Street or the big tech, big pharma, the big banking houses are all Now democratic, and that the, and that the working class, the middle class, the cops, the firefighters, Sean O'Brien out of the Teamsters union. You know, this guy had just that great guy, great, great guy. Really love him. But he he spoke at the Democratic convention, I mean, the Republican convention, rather the Democratic Convention. So you're seeing this just this bigger alignment and even on environmental issues, it's

so weird to me because the Democrats have become subsumed in this carbon orthodox in you. And I have talked about this, that the only issue is carbon. And what that's. One is, it's forced them to do something that you should never do. If you're an environmentalist, which is to commoditize and quantify everything. So everything is measured by its carbon footprint, how many tonnes of carbon it produces. And, you know, you're basically, you're, you're putting everything in that kind of box of of being able to quantify it and explain its value by, you know, by a

Numerically. And the reason that we protect the environment is just the opposite of that. The reason that we protect the environment is because there's a spiritual connection. There's a, you know, there's a love that we have we you know, I got into the environment because I wanted, you know, this connection to the fishes and the birds and the Wildlife and, and the whales and, and the purple mountains, Majesty. And that, you know, I understood that the way, you know, God talks to human beings. There are many factors through each other, through organized religion, through the

great prophets or the wise people, the great books of those religion and nowhere with the kind of detail on Texture and grace and joy as through creation. And when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine, understand who God is and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings. And that I hope what you just said, by the way, is chopped up and put all over every social media platform in the world. When we destroy nature, we degrade our own ability to experience the divine. Yeah. And that that, you

know, it's not about quantifying stuff. That's what the devil does. He quantifies everything. Right? And that is, you know, what he wants us doing with a number on it. And the reason we're preserving these things is not is Because we love our children, you know, and it's because we we get nature enriches us rich as economically and spiritually and culturally and historically. It connects us to those 10,000 generations of human beings that were here before there were laptops. And, you know, and it connects us that the most important spiritual asset of everything, Every all of

the organized religions in, you know, that that we know of today, the central revelation of every one of those religions always occurred in the wilderness. You know, Moses had to go into that wilderness to, to to listen, to hear God's voice and see the burning bush. He had to go to the wilderness at Mount Sinai to get the commandments. Muhammad had to he was a city boy from Mecca, had to go to the wilderness and Mount Harar on a camping trip with its kids and wrestle the angel Gabriel in the middle of the night. Have

the first stanzas of the series of the Koran squeeze from an Buddha had to go into the wilderness to sit under the, you know, and Wander for years, and then sit under the buddy guy a tree to get his first revelation of nirvana. And Christ had to spend 40 days. And I want this to discover its divinity for the first time. And his mentor was John the Baptist, who lived in a cave in the Jordan Valley, a honey of wild bees and locusts and, You know, and then all of Christ's parables come from nature. I'm

the vine. You are the branch mustard seed, the little swallows, the scattering seeds on the ground, because that is where we center the divine. God talks to us through the fishes, the birds, the leaves. They're all, you know, words from our creator. And that is why we preserve nature. Yes. It's not because of that, you know. It's not because that you know the quantity of carbon. And by the way. I feel what you said so deeply, I can hardly even express it. And thank you for saying that. And by the way, we, the best thing

that you can do for climate is to restore the soils. The soils are the solution. Everything. The soil will absorb all that carmine. If you know if and it'll absorb the water, it'll stop the flooding. It'll give us healthy food. And that's what our national policy has to be. It has to be restoring the soil. And that is, you know, everybody listen. If you talk, if you want to unite America and Talk about these things, talk about the fishes, the bird, the wildlife, and talk about ending mountaintop removal mining, talk about ending that mountain cutting,

talk about getting rid of, you know, the Democrats are putting these these offshore wind farms that are exterminating the whales. I know most of us got into this because of the whales, And they're about to extinguish the right whales, the last ones on Earth with these monstrous. And he just that, you know that our cost has three times the amount. We don't need them. It costs $0.33 a kilowatt hour when you can get an onshore wind for $0.10 a kilowatt hour. And who's making the money? Goldman Sachs, Blackrock, Foreign governments. And the other thing that

they're funding hundreds of billions of dollars. This is what they're calling. This is what climate has turned into is these climate capture pipelines and are wreaking havoc with the agricultural lands across the Midwest, stealing people's property rights with, you know, eminent domain and who's Making the money? Blackrock. And it's a useless technology that does not work. It's just all a boondoggle. And that's what's become the environmental movement in this country. And if you depart from that orthodoxy, you're expelled from it. If you if you want to make Americans fight each other, talk about carbon. If

you want to bring Americans Together, talk about habitat protection. Yeah, nature. And, you know, it's. A little weird. I mean, you literally spent your life Riverkeeper as an environmentalist, environmental lawyer in the environmental movement. I mean, that that's the that's that's your life work product. All right. Have you been expelled from the movement? Pretty much. Yeah. You know, the weird thing is I think of you as a radical environmentalist. Well, I definitely am. Yeah. You are. I haven't showered inside in ten years. Yeah, yeah. No, I feel it so Strongly. Also, you know, you love

nature. You're against these big projects that are destroying it. And, you know, you you talked about toxics and the American environmental movement no longer talks about toxics anymore. They don't care about it. I don't care that we're mass poisoning our children. It's so weird to me. And a. And, you know, I saw you, I for for 40 years I've been fighting to get against crime disruptors. And disruptors are a class of chemicals that can they alter us hormonally and they change our. I can change sexual conduct. I can change, sexual development. They can affect, fertility.

And we've already lost 50% of our sperm count. You know, we're having, girls in this country that are achieving puberty, on average, between 10 and 13 years old. That's six years less younger than they were, you know, 80 years ago. We we we have the lowest puberty levels on any continent in the world here because we're just bombarding our children with crying disruptors. And, and, you know, they're, they're chemicals like he Seabees. I like chlorinated IV and also atrazine, which can turn male frogs into females and produce Fertile eggs. That's how potent they are as

an underground disruptor. And it's in 63% of our water supply, PCBs, which I've been fighting since the day I became an environmental lawyer and getting them out of the Hudson. So. And and for 40 years, I've been trying to get Republicans to talk about it. I talk with Roger Ailes all the time of both of us now. oh. Who would let me occasionally on to Fox News to talk about it. But there was so much hostility from the Republican Party because it was like, you're attacking corporate profit taking. And these are chemicals. They're they're molecules.

Who cares? You know, they can't hurt You. And that was just. And then you do this incredible show on anti-crime disruptors. And I'm like, oh my God, Tucker Carlson. And just on the best show that's ever been done showing, you know, what's happening with underground disruptors, how they're just destroying us. And the Democrats went after you and the environmental movement. And I'm like, what? You know, we've been trying to get for 40 years, Republicans care about these issues. And they said, oh, he's saying that chemicals turn people gay and he's anti-gay and all this stuff.

And that wasn't what you said at all. And that's not what anybody said. And what what we're saying is we're we're destroying our children. That's what we're saying. Yeah. And God's creation, which is not ours to history. Your description of why we protect nature and its role in our lives, and what happens when you're cut off from nature and animals. But yeah, being part of nature is the best I've ever heard. Ever. And I think, you know, I mean it. And when that, You know, when it becomes a matter of quantifying things for profit, then

that kind of corrupts the whole enterprise. So where do you my last question, what happens now? You had this kind of amazing announcement with Donald Trump on Friday. It's now Monday. I think it was just three days ago. How do you spend from here until Election Day? I'm going to work to get him Elected. And, and, you know, I'm working with the campaign. We're working on policy issues together. I will, I've been asked to go on the transition team, and, you know, to help pick the people who will be running the government. And, I'm, I'm

looking forward to that. And I, you know, I'm I'm going to fight. I don't know what would happen to me if we lose. Well, that's that was that's kind of I mean, a lot of people I know personally and I'm friends with have gone to prison. One of them is in prison right now, Pavel Durov. There are others, like, what happens if he loses to you? If, you mean if. Trump loses and Kamala Harris becomes. Oh, I don't know. But I mean, listen, I know I don't I never really think about that. I want to

I think it's good, but I think it's okay. Here's what I to do today. And, you know, get up every day and say reporting for duty, sir. And then go do that. And, you know, nothing's a crisis. Everything's a task. Right. And, and so that's what I'm going to be kind of a happy warrior and, you know, I'm, I, I know what I have to do is I'm going to do it. Robert F Kennedy junior. Thank you. That was really. That was a Blessing. I appreciate it. Thank you. To watch the rest unlock our entire

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