and the big task the big job for Humanity is not to hesitate to go into one's creative resources because there we will find the answer how to move behind the crisis beyond the crisis and move and create more peaceful and more Cooperative world this can be done and if we do it we will find a way up what I call the upshift hi everybody Welcome to the ask Julie Ryan show I'm so delighted you could joinin us today cuz we have Dr Irvin llo with us he is the Godfather of quantum Consciousness in my opinion
Dr llo thanks so much for taking the time to join us well Julie it's my pleasure I've been known heard so much about you it's a it's a delight to speak with you in person oh thank you I'm honored let's just get right into it you were nominated twice for the Nobel Peace Prize and you published 106 books and over 400 articles in research papers where did all that information originate did you Channel it do you have some kind of special powers I mean my gosh all that Brilliance in one body tell us about where
where did all that come from you know I had a very difficult childhood in the sense this was wonderful but not an ordinary child who I was taking out of school when I was already 9 or 10 years old and I really went to school since then I was a piano Prodigy and so I was my life was music and Performing music I traveled all over the world when I was 15 already having WB Hungary and moved to New York and that uh background in music uh separated me from the ordinary everyday life the proceedings
one year after another for for going to school and following the old so it was a somewhat a special existence and this existence liberated me it it got me to thinking what am I doing who am I there was no pet answers because I was moving around in the world and I was understood to be a piano concert pianist but I didn't want to spend the rest of my life playing piano for people I wanted to understand what it is that I'm doing what who am I what is this world like very big question and
so you so I started reading ganita I started taking courses at Columbia University then in munic Germany and and uh asking questions of young people that I met with and and professors and so on and I started writing down my thoughts you know and my I never thought that my thoughts would be of interest my writings of being interest anybody else I just wanted to write because I thought I want to understand but then by accidentally I met after one of my concerts I met a young man who talked to me about this and asked
to see if I loot anything down I gave it to him he disappeared with this was in a in a in a dining room after a concert in the he in Holland and next morning he showed up I said we we want to publish it and I say who are you I did know he turned out to be an editor famous Publishing House martinos nof in Holland so published my book he worked on his fin another the year my notes to make it into proper book form this was in 1963 in 1963 my first book
appeared and that was a beginning of a complete change of life for me I was no longer a Pianist that's became a hobby I became an academician I became a professor of philosophy done in in in in first in New Haven in y then in Princeton and then New York State University and then this became a second phase in my career you see nothing was not an ordinary kind of a life procedure one year after another was other special way but I always stuck to this always stuck to trying to find out what's happening what
can I do that makes sense for my life I'm still doing that I'm still proceeding on that now in company with many people who follow me who work with me are partnering with me and so this gives me a great deal of satisfaction I'm dedicating my life to helping the human species helping Humanity to live well and to create a bright future on this planet and I find many people who are supporting me I started a movement called the world upshift movement that's running very well I'm just now launching another movement called the humanity sacred
Mission movement because I claim that we do have a sacred mission what what Humanity has is here for the planet for what is it what we need to do you know so all of these things are are excited they're not ordinary kinds of things but I always pursu what I thought was important and interesting in life where did you where was it like you just started thinking about this stuff and then the ideas came to you and you were LED from one thing to the next to the next to the next how what's the process
what did you what did you find was your process for for really bringing in this information you know I had to document the ideas that came to me but the ideas flew kept flowing coming in they still do I sit down to write and to a key idea I try to work it out and they start flowing and so I'm I'm I'm not really claiming that I'm that I'm really authoring all that you know I'm not really writing creating all that is coming but I'm elaborating it and I'm producing the background documentation make it credible
I just wrote a new article which I finished yesterday was be sending it around a bit for a symposium that I'll be organizing in in February it's the the the uh secret Humanity sacred Mission Symposium and I the Keo paper on it about life in the universe showing the science for showing what what how life is emerging in the universe and the mission of humanity so that's the title and I mean a lot of this came to me but I'm background I'm researching the background I'm researching the supports for it so I just don't believe
it just hanging in the air I try to convince people this is not just a personal insight there is something deeper behind it and so in as much as as I've help help with that help by the flow coming through me I'm very grateful for that and I don't hesitate to follow it so there it is the the startup is comes to me but then the followup is with me and from me don't you think that that's what every inventor and every composer and every author is doing at the end of the day and then
we get these ideas and they're coming from God or Spirit or Source or whatever you want to call it and and then we Absolut we work on that when we get an idea absolutely one has to have the courage to do that and not to be frightened by the well these are big big questions how can I answer them we have to try use one's intuition I said intuition imagination is more important than reasoning and intelligence I think it's it's at least as important we have to come we have confidence in the fact that we
are embedded in an information field the quantum field which conveys and conserves all the information in the world and we can tap into that field it's a deep resource it's in us and the big task the big job for Humanity is not to hesitate to go into one's creative resources because there we will find the answer how to move behind the crisis beyond the crisis and move and create a more peaceful and more Cooperative world because in US is this tendency to cooperate to work with together with people to find out what there is behind
the surface behind the facade I think all that is actually in us we have to tap into it and I'm trying to show that this can be done and if we do it we will find a way up but I call the upshift a global upshift beyond the current crisis prone and crisis open uh world that is threatening us but at the same time giving us the opportunity to change because we know and this doesn't go like this anymore it has got to change and now there is an opening now much of humanity is beginning
to feel itself to begin to see itself as a planet species as having something to do together Humanity has something to do with the way we evolve is the way the world is developing so I think this is a big development there is a true upshift happening underneath the crisis underneath the problems of that which we learn about every day the wars the violence the refugees all all the unsustainability that we find today and then this is all there is a development people are beginning to recognize each other and beginning to see each other as
a species on Earth whose job whose mission is not only to survive but to help this planet bring forth higher and higher levels of Life of coherence so I think this is something that's happening you got to wake up to it and mo visit as the young people say in the Star Wars go visit Force the Force yes force is evolution the force be with you is the universe right right well I think you bring up a really good point and certainly you're an ex you're a great example of we don't have to have any
formal training in order to use our imaginations and tap into our intuition I'm an example too I'm a I'm an inventor of surgical devices sold throughout the world I'm not an engineer I'm not a medical provider and yet I was able to do that and lots of other things so I think we limit ourselves wouldn't you agree because we think well we have to have that degree or we have to study this or we have to do that whereas when we are LED when we have an idea that comes in and it resonates with us
take a step and follow it and see where it leads and certainly you've done that many times throughout your life I've come to believe and then I've set documentation for it too that this Quantum field which carries information which are called the akashic field like the old notion of aash menion is a deeper dimension in the world this is not big pic picked up again in quantum physics so there is this Quantum field which is communicates all the information that we need all the information that we need to have in order to live to survive
to move forward and be can must allow it to come allow it not suppress it I think it's there and we know that it's available for us it's channeling if you like but it's an an ordinary everyday sense also every every time we ask a question every time we allow our intuition to open up we have the answers coming to us the eers knew this the Buddhist knew this you know all the Indian ayic sinkers knew this I think the great spiritual masters of all ages knew it and now we have to rec that this
is true this is something that's happening it has always guided Humanity when the last 15 20 100 150 years maybe they have been so enamored with technology and this pursuit of of Technical Innovations and of money and of power that we have suppressed this innate ability to to ask who we are and how what it is that we need really to do something more to do more than simply Gathering Power and money for ourselves that's part of it that's good to do but it's not the real purpose of life the purpose of life if anything
is to help flower life on Earth because this corner of the universe is a unique precious Corner surely there are other planets with life but they're far away and they near and near not and this part of the universe we are a Pioneers on this universe as a conscious species and it is our secred Duty I call it to use our Consciousness to bring forth this impression this idea that we together as a species can create a higher level of order of coherence of love God Guided by love on this planet and then we know
when our Consciousness picks that up our Consciousness communicates to all others because Consciousness andish ringer and other a great physicist and scientist told us Consciousness is one now we know that life is one what we do affects not only us it affects everything and everybody around us especially other people like us who similarly asking we all get onto this Cosmic interet and we find the way forward you have been doing that I think all your life you're doing it and it's a great wonderful service to humanity to show that it can be done it produces
result and if you want to find the way out the way forward from this crisis it's not by just amassing the greatest possible interest power and money for ourselves without regard to others but is to looking at the whole system the entire system of life on Earth how can we be a positive part of that sounds like a spiritual esoteric question as very concrete unless we create as basis for flowering life on the planet we cannot flower and go forward ourselves we are part of the system and the system is guided as a whole this
is the old holism which is coming through non quantum physics as well the whole system is but corresponds to all its parts it sets up the parts we cannot just concentrate on the part and forget the whole let's try to get the whole underway so that it can strive so that all parts are collaborating are coherent with every other part that Oneness which we can create by stepping into our deeper sources and for Consciousness that's what will bring us forward that's the way for and I'm sure that we are beginning to enter it despite not
even just despite of that because of all the great challenges that you know and and living through the wars the violence the Injustice all that is triggering triggering a counter movement a counter movement of finding ourselves how we can work live and love together well you mentioned the word love a couple of times in there and is that how people can tell whether they're being led if it feels loving if it feels good if they want to know more versus if they feel like oh this feels bad this this causes anxiety or whatever is love
really how we can discern what's worth EXP Loring and how it feels when we hear something absolutely right you know in the scientific perspective what you're looking at is systems that are quantum systems connected to all other systems in intimately directly systems that have integrality that have whoress the one word that is best used for that is coherence A system that is coherent with all other systems around it communicates with all other systems feels what happening to other systems gives information that other systems can pick up when that is happening you know then we have
a feeling and that feeling to perceptive people to open People is the feeling of unconditional love it's the feeling that we are here to work together with others in Harmony in cooperation and together us to move on to the next level of our Evolution which is creating a harmonious and peaceful world on earth that is the scientific background for what we feel intuitively we are creating more and more coherence in this world you know how the world just one more word on this how this whole process started it's starting 13.7 billion years ago after the
big bang it started that hydrogen nuclei began to associate free electrons in the energy shells around them and create stable atoms they join together together to create helium atoms and they went on to the higher and higher more and more complex elements of of the of the energy of the table of the elements and to be all the atoms and they then the molecules then the cells then the organisms then the ecologist all this 13.7 billion years ago it started and now it's accelerating more and more if we are creating a world which is interacting
through artificial inell intelligence yes through the internet yes but also through feeling when we enter into ourselves we can communicate I'm sure you it's your experience as well we communicate with each other we enter into a tremendous Network and the key to that is the sense of Oneness which is communicated through the sense of love we are here to do things together because we are Partners we are at the Forefront we are pioneers years of an evolutionary drive that has been going on in the universe since the big band now it's moving to the point
where on this planet Evolution can become conscious this is what my cre This Is My Credo now starting a program now called a movement for conscious evolution we can become conscious of the fact that evolution is driving us toward higher and higher levels of integrality of wholeness of Oneness and the vehicle for that the motivation for that is the sense of unconditional fully dedicated love appreciation for each other people are beginning to feel that there's a wonderful movement under the way where people are waking up this is a process that's being triggered by all the
TR all the challenges all the tragedies that's going on at the same time it's triggering a change nothing is the way it was everything is moving and people peress to people like yourself the people that you are leading are showing the way that's through the understanding of We Are One and on this planet we are moving forward to higher levels of coherence toward neby or Consciousness led by our intuitive sense of Oneness love that is the way forward in not an ID way it's an active way it means being a Pioneer BE being an activist
working together consciously I think it's beginning to happen and it's a very encouraging sign that it is happening you say everything that's gone on in the past is part of what goes on in the present how does that help us create can you expand on that a little explain why you think that or why you believe that well the movement on Earth is or on the universe all together to start look at the biggest picture is from chaos to coherence very simple to remember that initially after the big bag it was maximum chaos it was
the highest level of entropy as physicists would say you know since then stable entities came about coherent systems atoms molecules crystals cells organisms ecologies and galaxies the movement is towards on coherence of from from chaos toward coherence what went on in the past is continuing today but today is becoming conscious we have left we have arrived at the position on this Earth where we can consciously perceive this this tremendous drive forward Evolution the evolution of Life the evolution of planets the evolution of ecosystems here on this planet as an example of what is happening throughout
space and time so what happen in the past is continuing today all we are moving at higher and higher levels now for the first time in human history as we are talking about Humanity the human Community how do we respond as Humanity to the challenge of a war in by Russia in the Middle East wherever is happening all the wars that are going on at the same time how do we respond to climate change to heating up of the atmosphere to the drying up of soils we respond as a people we respond we respond as
a species and this is not a local thing this is a non-local phenomenon nonlocal means that is what's Happening Here affects directly affect but it's happening elsewhere so being part of this is to wake up being part of it is to know that we are and this soil on the on on the threshold of a new stage as new stage where humanity is consciously becoming a species which is taking in hand its own Evolution we cannot stay the way we were we cannot stay we are now we need to move forward because you also cannot
go back we need to go forward and the way forward is the way of evolution the process that started in the universe all those billions of years ago and the way it is moving forward because now it's fast now it's becoming Consciousness on this planet through Humanity evolution is becoming conscious it's a tremendous step forward in this process what put on in the past is going on today will go on tomorrow but if you make it conscious consciously guided then we'll accelerate it we make sure that it doesn't derail Evolution can also go lead to
Extinction Evolution can take wrong terms there's no no guarantee that it moves forward but if you become conscious of it that we don't let it derail that we keep it going forward on the right way we know the way forward is coherence is love so cooperation and working together to maintain the planet within the limits of sustainability we now know whether is through the environmental problems whether is through the through the refugee problems whether is through the the thermodynamic problems of carbon release whatever these all ele ments of a problem which says we are here
to change we need to change and to go go with Gandhi who said be the change you want to see in the world yes now we need we ourselves need to become a conscious evolutionary species a member of the species and then Evolution will pick it up and we move forward because it's ready for it the world is ready for a positive change it must go forward otherwise it'll collapse and we have in US this drive this drive for evolution this drive which is Manifest in US is love seeking love seeking Oneness that is in
us so if we allow it to come force and guide our actions then we can create what we are meant to be a Cooperative peaceful planetary species is this what you were just talking about what you're calling the new cosmology which goes beyond what Einstein discovered can you give us a kind of a comparison of what Einstein discovered and how this is goes beyond that well quantum physics it's based on Quantum cosmology you me quantum physics actually it it doesn't falsify it doesn't contradict anything that Einstein has done he just built it into a cosmological
science Einstein has Le the foundation so it's idea of space time and and and evolution in space time now in the new cosmology we see that the whole universe joins together as one system that one system means that every part is coherent with every other part here and wherever else in the universe there is contact there is communication the word for that that is used nowadays is nonlocality but we do is not limited to here and now it affect there and then in the past in the present in the future wherever on Earth in time
and in space it's all joined together in a Oneness but we can make this conscious so that we make it a Oneness move forward in the right direction and not encounter obstacles which then help it or make it break down Extinction is always possible but evolution is also possible and if we are conscious of the difference conscious of what evolution is then we can make this put this critical input the the the the essential kick cybernetics call it the little launch kick or movement that'll shift the the whole system into that positive mode where it's
moving forward it's ready for it and this our Consciousness we can be that critical mass that critical mass as margarit media the Anthropologist said is always changed the world and nothing else did she said we can be the critical mass and there are many elements many groups beginning to form that look like they becoming the critical mass we help them to join together we help them become conscious and then we they'll find the way you don't have to make it he don't have to conduct it we just has to safeguard it allow this new development
to take place to continue and to flower one last question why do we incarnate de question I think my I give my personal personal opinion on that I think what we are here for is not limited to one one Lifest what we're here for is to introduce a higher level of Life of coherence and of Consciousness on this planet and insert this Consciousness as part of the process of evolution in the universe we are here to make Evolution conscious and that is not a job for a single lifestyle that is something that has to continue
we produce the information that information that we are producing In Our Lifetime is our Consciousness is registered in the acasc field in the quantum field and is there even beyond our physical liftime it is there to work and to motivate and to act as a as a dynamic tendency forward throughout many life life times permanently probably life is continuous life is not finite universe is not finite either even though it's very very long and it's moving through different phases so I think what you're here for is what the ancient seers the great spiritual Masters have
always told us to become one with the universe to become achieve a higher level of Consciousness and help this Consciousness this Quantum conscious as we now call it to become an active Force guiding development in the universe so we are a past past and present masters of guidance Pioneers that is our LA and humanity is here to fulfill what I now call a sacred Mission the sacred mission to create a coherent World on Earth for all living things is a higher level of Consciousness so they get can cooperate and move together forward we can do
it we are beginning to do it we have to accelerate it and reinforce it that's our sacret mission how can people find out more about you and your work well I mean you use my name every last the books for example 10 10 SP websites my latest books you can look at the internet are called the the survival imperative where I describe the Practical dimension of what we need to survive and to flourish on this Earth my latest book we published a couple of weeks ago is written co-written by 35 spiritual leaders and scientists in
the world it's called the great upshift but I talk about is the upshift the shift into the next level of evolution on Earth so look at my everyo books look at my website you will find information there right and we'll post all of that in the show notes what an honor and a thrill for me to get to meet you and talk with you and thank you for taking the time to share your wisdom and your Brilliance with all of us and I look forward to continuing the conversation another time so everybody that's it I
do go ahead you are a Pioneer and and and move forward intuitively but scientifically at the same time even need people like yourself let's let's do it together I would be honored everybody sending you lots of love from Sweet Home Alabama M and from Italy where Dr llo is we'll see you next time indeed all my love and all my greetings to you for for you and for Humanity in which you are a Pioneer thanks for joining us be sure to follow Julie on Instagram and YouTube at ask Julie Ryan and like her on Facebook
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