Nora Fatehi UNFILTERED - Bollywood, Struggle, Reality Shows, Fame, Love & Spirituality | TRS 399

Did you want to be famous when you were a kid but I was three if I don't get the clabs and all that I'll start crying Do You Believe In Love of course I do nothing is worse than getting married to someone that you don't even love and living with them for years you see that at come on now most of the people in our industry are doing that nonsense you're you're speaking the truth people are okay to talk about me all the time And nobody thinks about how I feel you think I don't see

what they write about me on reddit reddit is is wild they say the C crazy about me both men and women need to realize that they need each other yeah this idea of like I don't need anybody and feminism and no I don't believe in this at all in fact I think feminism up our society it's very cool that Nora f is saying this I mean there's going to be a lot of people are going to disagree with Me like your comment section is going to be like ah she's old school she's a hypocrite Etc

I'm not because as a guy you assume girls are really sweet girls are not sweet whoever told you that don't be naive in the real world you know we bash men cuz like we have this thing where it's in fashion to bash men and be like men are all and a lot of women are crazy you know what Nazar is yeah some people look at you through envy and hate and jealousy when I've met other stars they are inherently Predators here when they start to use as a way to bait you into war they sniff

out victims but my personality is a little intimidating they kind of get a little bit like because she could talk sometimes right after a podcast is recorded my entire team knows that we've just recorded a blockbuster piece this is an epic conversation with Nora fatehi who I believe especially after this Recording is one of the Indian film industry's most misunderstood and misrepresented people I feel people don't know the real Nora fat people don't know what it takes for someone to leave their home country and set up a flourishing career in another country over the span

of a decade I truly believe that the most interesting people that one can meet are people who are completely self-made and if you're someone who's self-made outside of your Geographical comfort zone it adds layers and layers of Personality lots of fun lots of perspective lots of serious talk on today's conversation you're going to enjoy one of the best free flowing podcast that we've created on TRS with the Epic Nora fi [Music] welcome to DRS Nora fat thank you what's up all good how are you I'm good is this okay if I bring it close be

chill if you want to eat here if you want to meditate Here on the show it's all it's giving me meditation Vibes here yeah so we meditate in this room as well I love it yeah I think if you meditate in a room like it changes the vibe of the space and uh this is where all of our work comes out of so the space is very very very very very special and you just made it more special thank with your presence I love it what's happening in life so much is happening so much to

be specific cuz I could go and blabber on For the next seven hours go for it so much yeah I mean like um I'm I'm a workaholic so I'm constantly working I'm Every Day I'm running around I feel like it's nonstop for me I'm I'm at a point in my career where I'm trying to balance between doing my work in India and my work internationally which sometimes I feel like I have to split myself in half and be in one two different places at the same time but I'm having a lot of fun I'm learning

so much about myself I'm maturing um it's just a lot so much is happening what are you running towards oh I'm I'm running towards my goals I have so many goals and they're all there and I've made some happen already I've reached you know success at some point but I have a lot of goals that I'm trying to fulfill you want to talk about them yeah yeah I mean so many like first of all the fact that I've always wanted to do lead roles in Films right so that's been like a 10 year struggle where

I've been knocking on doors trying to get in and you know from doing songs special features to small roles supporting roles and climbing up those stairs you know it's literally stairs some people you know they get the opportunity to just go inside the lift and then and then some people take the escalator which is faster than the St stairs the stairs is tedious because when you take the stairs Like sometimes your legs hurt and you have to like take a break and you're like this too much a lot of stairs and then you're going up

and the stairs get longer and they get longer and you're like okay well this is staircase not going to end so that is basically analogy for um this journey of M staircase and sometimes as you're climbing higher the goal gets higher as well it does sometimes you're like ah this is nice so I actually manag to Reach this 10 years ago I would have never thought you know let me make my goal a little bigger a little more tougher a little more almost unattainable and then when you attain it you're like it actually happened you

know so this is the zone that I'm in that this probably describes my whole entire life uh I'm just really happy that the first time I'm meeting you is over the course of a podcast because then it's recorded forever that's true What I like about anyone who's grown up outside of India is that I've no noticed that even within the media world uh you guys don't develop too much of an ego I don't know why that and this is what I've seen with all the I mean I'm sorry I'm terming you as a foreigner no

it's fine I mean I'm I'm not from here um but the only thing is so funny you said I'm sorry I'm termining you as a foreigner there was a time where I used to hate that term in the beginning when I just Came to India because I felt that everyone who used the term Foreigner would just typ cast all non-indians into one box they're all goras you know and I'm like wow this is this is not it I don't like this and and anytime they be like oh Foreigner Foreigner and I'm like I'm not a

foreigner you know I'm I'm a brown girl too you know you you could pass off as Indian I mean I I'm not I'm not see that's the thing Foreigner means someone who's non Indian right but in Our minds the way it used to be used in the environment I was in it was just like all European girl girls are all white girls no offense to white people I'm no I'm not like it's fine AR you a white person I'm not you know what mean that's and then I have to have arguments with people trying to

explain to them that I'm like guys like I'm a brown girl I'm a North African Moroccan girl and we relate to South Asians just like you know you Middle Eastern South Asian North Africans they really blend together they have a lot of similarities um this is something Indians don't understand about the Middle East and North Africa until they travel there until they travel right right then they realize boss you're both similar you know and it's almost scary similar um and so I always wanted to educate people and be like no you know this is where

I'm from this is my background we are very similar all foreigners are not the Same um and then when they hear me speak Arabic they'd be like those words are the same words in Hindi you know or in Udu and I'm like yes this is what I'm trying to tell you you know uh a lot of things there are a lot of things that are similar but I like to focus on the similarities rather than differences which is also the reason why I was able to make it here is because of the similarities and being

relatable to the audience they Clearly saw something where they're like boss we can relate to her right um but yeah you were saying about foreigners so what I've planned for this particular conversation is actually more of a um again don't mind me saying this but it's like a foreigner perspective in India and I'll tell you why saying this it's not a typ cast you but as a media professional you hear things about other media professionals whether they're actors singers whatever uh if you spend Time in this industry I'm sure you would have heard something about

me I have heard something about you for sure whenever people talk about you it's always with a lot of respect mhm within the media fraternity like there's a lot of respect put against your name because of your hard work and uh I've heard people say things like oh she's a rocket so so that was my only impression of you honestly uh from a professional perspective I'm not talking about the Front end I'm not talking about what people see but uh you know how if a footballer seeing another footballer play the sport you can see it

from a different lens right and that's what's always come through about you and I mean you're perfect example of someone who's come up the hard way which is why I think that's the core nucleus uh when it comes to going even further for sure yeah I I appreciate that I'm glad look that's a very Positive thing to hear because not a lot of people have you know a good image especially like stars our industry is really difficult you know and um in your face this this is relevant to stardom like people will see stars media

people will see stars industry people will see stars and they would be like so nice to them in their face and oh sir sir m m and you know all that but behind their back they will say other things about them related to their Personality the way they behave etc etc so it's very rare that you hear people say good things about you behind your back even if you're a star you know um and so when you're saying that this is the kind of things you hear about me it's really nice you saw some crazy

while growing up in my area yeah for sure I I mean we've seen shootings we've seen driveby we've seen driveby is when someone's in a car sticks their gun out And starts shooting out and then drives away that's a driveby that's the term we use um we've seen school shootings or someone will come with a gun and you know there's a lockdown in the school everyone's hiding under their tables and the cops are coming um what I don't know I mean gang wars people are crazy people are really crazy egos um we anyways have a

massive gun problem in Toronto to begin with so a Lot of kids have guns for no reason they have access to guns um do you have a gun no no no I was very studious I didn't need a gun I have my my my my mouth my tongue my mouth is a weapon so I mean I attack with my words unfortunately and sometimes this but not anymore I'm a good girl now may [Music] um no need to lie not really a little bit depends I mean I think I've matured In the sense where I'm trying

to figure out what to let go and what not to let go but yeah you know my industry is not an easy industry to work in it's a tough one um I love it don't get me wrong very grateful but you have to be constantly on almost it's not like a fighter mode but you have to be constantly alert constantly alert constantly awake constantly figuring out like who to trust who not to trust who's around you You have to be very protective over your you your energy your aura your around everything you have to be

very protective um and there's like you know Nazar is we believe in Nazar I mean I think people who are in the public eye um do succumb to Nazar a lot because a lot of eyes are on them lot of jealousy Envy what happens nowadays is if there is ever an event that I have to go for and I try going for as few events as is possible because of this reason but Whenever I get back from that event I always of some a or pain yeah that's definitely Naz I mean you especially if you're

someone cuz everyone's Aura is different right some people's auras are more weaker than others and some people's auras are more you gravitate towards them more and that's what makes that's the difference between a star and a non-star to be frank it's an energy so stars have an aura that make people want to look at them make people admire them Make them aspirational you know sometimes you like some star and you don't even know I like them you're just like there's something about them that's their Aura you know and that aura particularly it grabs people's eyes

and not all people's NZ eyes is good not all people's eyes when they look at you they don't always look at you in good intentions some people look at you through envy and hate and jealousy and wishing bad on you and that is an energy I genuinely really believe in if it catches on you it could make you sick it can make you mentally Disturbed it can make you lose your sleep it can make you you know your body hurt um it can kill your aura down where you don't look your best anymore um that's

where sometimes sometimes you feel like you're depressed you feel like you have anxiety you feel all these things come into play it's a very it's an interesting topic but it's um it's definitely very intricate if you Go really deep into it you'll realize that that's why a lot of stars struggle through depression and anxiety that's why a lot end up being SU for example because when you have millions and billions of eyes on you and half of them don't even wish you well and then you have your co-actors or your uh competitors plotting against your

fall and wanting to destroy you because of their envy and their ego and their uh Fear of you may be doing really well and they don't want you to do well people can do anything to destroy you and remove you from the way you know so what's the Arab way of getting rid of Nazar there's so many ways I mean it depends also what religion you're in like for example Muslims will read Quran they will read ayat they will pray um lot of saltwater baths um there's also depending on what culture you're in um there

are ancestral rituals that are Used to cleanse your aura and your spirit there are many things that one does um but obviously it's it's a it's a very deep conversation yeah it's deep one you have a whole occult side yeah of course definitely I mean someone like me has to be very like I said in the beginning of the podcast alert aware and educated about certain things because when you are in the public eye You succumb to all these things it is what it is I mean a lot of people might not want to discuss

this um but and some people go oh I don't believe in this and this is all nonsense but that's just a front all people believe in this energies and you know Nazar and um whatever comes Under the Umbrella of this conversation and we live in a country that people are very spiritual and people do believe in this stuff and our industry is run through this stuff To be honest with you what do you mean run through this um in terms of being aware and educated about this and protecting yourself because I mean otherwise you will

never last in the industry where um here Hollywood the pop culture anywhere where people's eyes are constantly on you people are around you constantly there's comp competition competitors this one wants to you know be more bigger than you this one wants to make more money than you this one Wants the rule this one is scared because the other one is coming up and they're like oh whoa whoa this one's coming up what do we got to do to bring them back down all these things happen so when you're in the midst of this and you're

aware of it you start to realize the importance of protecting your aura and your spirit I've always wondered if someone can put NZ on you digitally like through watching you yeah of course 100% digitally because H say we've got some Nzar absorbing things in the back I noticed I noticed of course for that exact reason 100% because uh the person digitally can see your face they can see your your picture they can see your video they can see your eyes and the eyes is the gat of your soul right and how do people catch on

to your aura through your soul and your spirit so of course it's possible you're very interesting person I know I heard that like you have a lot to say you've not Been on too many podcasts no because you know like it's very it's scary you know it's cancer culture era so but you're being much more open here in this room than most Hindi film industry professionals or film industry professionals asking me certain questions and I'm very spontaneous and people who know me know that I'm an open book I also am have a lot here um

if you ask the right questions you'll get those those certain answers some people don't Care about certain things they just ask me what's your next project and tiet so that's the answer I'm going to give you who you're dating oh yeah who who you're dating like so and you need it's ridiculous and my answer is always nobody so where do we go from there but you got to ask the right questions and it also depends on the theme I guess for you your podcast is about knowing deeper than just the projects right and actually my

question is to you because You said something really interesting so you come back from an event and your your bones are hurting what do you do uh what do you do to help yourself get out of it and also what do you do to protect yourself moving forward when you know it's going to happen firstly I'll say that learning that you've picked up nazer is a skill to know that is on you you usually feel very heavy very drained or something starts Hurting again I'm talking from the perspective of Fame I don't know if I

I assume that when someone gets married and there's a big wedding that's where people would pick up for sure yeah yeah yeah especially like yeah a wedding at an event um if you're not famous you're not in this industry like we're just specifically speaking about our industry but when you're not famous you could go to a family function and you be looking amazing and your cousin just like oh so Jealous of how you look and how beautiful your hair is and how glowing your skin is and boom you know so that's nazer like they don't

know that they're putting the nazer on you some of them most of them know oh really most of them know yeah most of them know yeah it's got some evil people in this world most of them know the saltwater BS that's my standard I've seen that that doesn't completely help me what washes it off is if I go into the ocean like if You if you actually go to the beach and go that washes it off to in very deep degree but at home salt water bath do some mantras meditate uh but it's just time

that heals it honestly some of us don't have time some of us need to go back in front of the crowd some of us have to go back in front of the camera some of us have to keep going right we don't have time to you know it's like a battery you know when the battery has no charge left anymore and then you got to Charge it back up some of us don't have time to recharge again so what does one do it's a very good question uh who had like the biggest gravity field around

them or everyone you've ever met in this industry I can't take names cuz I'd freak them out and they probably call me 20 times panicking so I can't take names but I can tell you that um a lot of them have probably more than and they don't even know and they Wonder like why their stomach is always hurting why they They have digestive issues why their films are not doing well why they are no longer you know that shining bright star that they once were they're doing everything they need they're working so hard they're doing

the right projects they're writing working with the right people but it's not landing something is wrong like oh my God just two three years ago I was so happening everybody loved me everything was working for me and now people look at me and they're Like w your aura is a bit dull you okay you look tired oh yeah your projects are not doing well it's just a phase and then they notice they have a lot of problems with people around them maybe a loved one maybe a girlfriend a wife or a boyfriend or a husband

friends there everything just seems to be crumbling down and they don't know what it is until it's too late um and sometimes people get lucky and they have friends and family that advise them and open Their mind and their eyes to certain situations and sometimes people don't and then they just suffer forever um and you know I feel really sorry for them because our industry is just it's full of that a lot of people that have been around I've notice I can feel that they have that energy which is unfortunate um I mean I don't

say anything cuz it's not my business but it's stained with Nazar that's what you're saying okay okay maybe what I Meant by my question was who has like the uh it would who would be more like um sensitive to it no the most I meant who has the strongest Aura for I I'll answer it from my perspective maybe I'll explain my question better uh at Baba sikar party I saw Shah ruk Khan briefly maybe for like 10 seconds he walked past me I've never sensed that kind of yeah powerful Aura around I felt like his

Aura and maybe all this is in my mind it's true yeah it's true it was at least 20 ft tall and 20 ft wide yes yeah I know I understand what you mean yeah like that heavy and you you see the body language and motions of human beings around him change when he's walking through a COR and he's very aware of it and he enjoys it and he walks through right so right of course obviously this is what he worked towards yeah that's what he worked towards and it's also god-given yeah he didn't buy it

from the supermarket It's god-given and when when he became aware of it um and he understood the responsibility he has of it and what it brought to him he understood how to carry himself with it and it's beautiful it's special it's very very rare also I mean we have so many stars in the industry but a few of them carry on almost um Larger than Life Ora do you think Shah ruk Khan is probably in the top most famous people in the world 100% right I don't think I know it's it's a Fact like while

you were growing up in Canada you knew who sh yeah for sure of course Canada forget about Canada Canada we can say makes sense because it's a Cosmopolitan place we have a lot of Indians a lot of South Asians um but all of Africa all of the countries in Africa would know who shahan is be it Morocco because we grew up watching his films right be it a family in Somalia in Nigeria in Ghana in Sagal in Egypt in any of these places these are all Countries in in Africa in case nobody knew this but

yeah what are these geography class all of them would know shaho Khan for sure hands down he is the ambassador of Bollywood he's the ambassador of India when you were 7 years old you didn't know you'd be in India right no of course not I didn't even know I'd be in India when I was 18 yeah what about Shah ruk Khan and Hindi films attracted you in the first place When you were a kid specifically Shah ruk Khan because for us it's his charm it's his charm and also the kind of films he did they

were family friendly you could sit at home with your entire family and watch them which is very important because that becomes a cultural thing you know um like for example here in India what are the two things people do they either go and watch cricket or they go to the cinema right so it's like a cultural thing Right um we had watching films at home with family and we couldn't do Hollywood films right because they were a lot of them were not appropriate to watch with the family at least if you come from a brown

family you know like you know how it is do you know we're not we're not open-minded like that at all so Bollywood films were safer they were family friendly and also they they felt good it felt nice to watch a Bollywood film because of the stories you know the Drama the sentiments the values and Arabs North Africans Brown Indians South Asians we all share the same sentiments in the end of the day right and that's why films are made the way that they're made um and shahu did films that you know my grandma liked my

mom liked I liked growing up and we had that moment where we can all sit you know some are sitting in the sofa some are on the floor and we're all watching the small little TV and it's Shah Khan you know so He he grew up with him you fall in love with the the Romantic side of him the uh chivalry you know the gentleman side and women love that on top of that the whole idea of song and dance in a Bollywood film provided a a way of entertainment that was almost like escaping real

life you know and it's just a charm about Bollywood that other films or other Industries like Hollywood did not have um and you know you you gravitate towards something that you relate to so We could relate to Bollywood films at that time because it embodied the same things that we had in our cultures too I mean my core memory of Shah ruk Khan from when I was a kid was not knowing the name of this person but being very attracted to the way he acts he had an innocence in his face also I don't know

friendliness I don't know what it was it's it's going back to energies we were talking about energies he has a clean energy clean energy yes That's what it is you can see it in his eyes um you know sometimes you're like I mean shahan is so talented this has nothing to do with him but sometimes you'll see like an actor or a star and you're like I really like them they're not that talented it's not like they have this crazy skill but there's something about them you know the way they when they smile or when

their eyes there's a sparkle in their eyes that's because their energy is clean and They're intent they're say in Arabic n their n is like very clean right and saf soia you feel like gravitated towards them some stars have that appeal and some of them when you see them you're like they're so talented they have everything but there's something about them that makes me feel weird inside you know that's because their energy is not that good and their intentions not that good but shahan has that clean soul and I look at me talking about him

like I Know him like that I don't know him like that I seen him just a couple of times you know but um I have a lot of respect for him because the couple of times I saw him he was very respectful he was very very warm very nice despite knowing that he could be the fourth third or fifth most famous person in the world right or most impactful influential person in the world um and I've met other stars who have not been like that who have been very disrespectful very Mean without taking names what

was the form of disrespect um just like kind of like borderline bullies like said something that's yeah they they be their body language won't be very welcoming their facial expressions they taunting their jokes they're you know they'll say things behind your back also and you you get to know what they said and you're like wow I can't believe they said that about me um and they have that that Entitlement of of being bullies and nobody will call them out on that men or women men yeah women is a different story women will try to kill

you like they'll try to kill you so that's a different story but men who are superstars because we're talking about a superstar like shoh Khan right so if I'm going to compare him to anyone I'll compare him to other superstars right um so yeah he's been amazing you felt bad of course I'd feel Bad yeah of course I the reason I'm asking you that yeah no yeah go for it is cuz feel even you have a clean energy yeah but you're very sharpened up yeah do you know what I mean yeah 100% I agree going

back to the start so yeah uh I think your clean energy would feel bad but then your Sharp Energy would just be like oh okay this is another yeah obviously like I will cry for like 10 minutes at home and then after that i' be like girl get yourself up we have Things to do we have to take over the world you know so I'm I'm really I'm fascinated by like your experience I I believe that to grow in life you have to leave home you've left a whole country like it's not normal what you've

done it's very cool thanks and despite I'm sure you've seen a lot of while getting to this point mhm so my question to you is did this happen recently what exactly them bullying you Oh yeah all the time even now even now yeah even now because I'm intimidating in the end of the day some people don't get it they don't understand like how come her why not our girls why not this one why not my girl why not my you know why her there's so much of that that happens and they get so angry and

that they don't also a lot of them don't like my directness I'm very direct you know I'm not like the other girls who would be like yes sir yeah yeah I'm not like I Will come I will joke with you I will you know you're my homie I will tell you in your face if I feel like something is off um I'll be frank I'll also be the most amazing person for you I'll help you in anything that you need I'm like like going back to my hood Jan and Finch and how I was brought

up in my friend Circle we ride with each other I'm a rider literally like that sounds funny but you know in terms of like if you need something I'm there Right but at the same time if you're effing up I'll tell you or if I feel like something is weird I'll say it I'll be the one in the room who would say the most awkward thing but some people they don't like that they they prefer they prefer someone quiet submissive someone who looks like they really need work or they really want something so then you

give them the ability to be more powerful and to be able to have the control of certain Situations I don't give that to anybody and that's used by turning Theory into practice yeah of course then they'll say things like ah she's nothing she's nobody she's at fall she's not talented why is she here da da da all that happens you know and then and then they see you again you know with them in certain events or um they seem to not be able to brush you off wherever they go you're there too maybe because you

were invited also or You're also doing the same job as them or whatever it is and it irritates them more you know what is this so they feel like you're slowly going up at and reaching where they are and they don't want that so then they start to bully you demean you talk bad about you almost to cover your aura with their negative blanket um and sometimes people succumb to that blanket and then they drown in it and then some people like me would just like throw it off again and be like All right what's

going on you know what I mean so are you okay saying these things on a podcast yeah of course yeah you're speaking the truth you're speaking the truth that audiences know you're speaking the truth that uh most media professionals know why would I not be look people are okay to talk about me all the time all the time and nobody thinks about how I feel you think I don't see what they write about me on reddit reddit is is Wild they say the craziest about me I see the comment sections I see uh the Articles

the blind articles I see what people say about me all the time and I sit and I'm like oh they know I'm going to see this and they never think twice about how I'm going to feel my mental health they don't think twice about whether it's real or not it's false I see the tweets I see you know these random self-proclaimed critics or Self-proclaimed bloggers or whatever they want to call themselves they they go and they tweet things that are not right they're wrong they're lies and that damages my reputation and it makes people talk

so much crap about me and I can't even say hey guys it's not true I can't even say that I just watch it happen so I see how they have all the balls to do that and they don't face repercussion they don't get cancelled nobody says anything to them I and I Know I have a very open personality and I'm very spontaneous and I'm open book so when I'm on a podcast I I talk freely because I want people to know who I am I can't even count the internet rumors that have spread lies about

me mhm and at one point I used to feel a sense of huh why why this where's this coming from yeah but I mean at this stage I have two phones so one phone gives me the internet rumor the other one shows me my numbers yeah on social media I'm Sure you feel the same way on one side rumors of course because I'm like make it make sense I mean if if I'm so horrible and I'm not talented and I've done certain things just to get the opportunities that I have they explain the numbers explain

the 1 billion 1.5 billion the 4 billion views the 500 million views explain the 46 million follow explain the opportunities that I have been able to um to nail explain the the The fan following explain the young girls and boys are crazy about me explain all that you know has a big star crossed a line with you uh you have to be specific I understand the bullying thing and that's also crossing a line MH has someone I mean I'm going in a casting couch Direction yes sexually no no luckily luckily I've not had that situation

but I know why because I had this conversation with my friend the Other day and she was like do you ever think about why that's never happened with you and I'm like yeah I do think that it could have almost happened but my personality is a little intimidating so the they kind of get a little bit like because she could talk these kind of people whether they're stars or not in the end of the day inherently they're Predators inherently let's be frank right they are you're saying it doesn't have to be star it could be

a star it Could be a non-star it could be anybody but what I'm trying to say is when they start to use as a way to bait you into work and to make you submissive right they are inherently Predators here right so those Predators if you look at how their brain works it's very interesting they sniff out victims they scan you and they know your personality and they know which one to use and which one not to use to protect themselves like if you're a predator and you're going to and You're about to approach someone

you're not going to approach someone that has a certain personality trait that could get you in trouble right you'll be very smart you'll be calculative and you're going to approach the vulnerable one the desperate one the one whose personality is a little bit Meek and scared sometimes not all the time right sometimes they get it wrong their calculation is wrong and they approach the wrong one who exposes them and Destroys their empire that happens but most of the time they know who to approach and I I I've felt certain moments where I'm like this person

might but then they back off because they're like n not her her personality is is a little bit scary and and I can see it I see I talk a lot you know um I come with a certain Aura when I when you approach me when I walk into a room I don't give I've never given desperate Vibes at all I've been in situations where I've wanted work but I've and there had like for example initial days when I first came to India in 2013 14 I think it's 2013 my dates all over the place

but there was somebody who tried to put me in this situation of if you want this and you have to do this and kind of corner me and put me in this very scary situation where I panicked and I felt alone and and I didn't know how how to handle the situation I don't have to go Into detail about what happened but I do remember some switch in my brain came and I was like Hey listen I don't you think I really want this that bad I don't I'm here it happens great it doesn't happen

I go back to Canada I didn't come from some Village I go back from Canada I go back there I go back to University and I go back and study law or study teaching and become a lawyer or a teacher and what this doesn't happen so what so when you suddenly do that Because when I did that I suddenly felt that person was like oh she took the power away from me now what I do I can't dangle anything because she doesn't really want it so they give up right that's the situation I was in

um obviously whatever advice or whatever thing I'm telling you is based on my life experience I don't know other people have different life experiences and different Notions about it but this is my take about it so afterwards moving On in life whenever I was in a situation like that or I felt like it's going to happen I noticed people back off because they're like her character personality who cannot handle it for sure and then I've had friends friends who went through it and those friends of mine are a little more shy a little more reserved

a little more quiet and I felt like those kind of predators must have thought that they were much more EAS not easier But it's more safer for them to do what they wanted to do with them yeah for sure see I'm a guy so there's only a level of understanding that I can bring to this conversation but I'm trying to understand this further from a girl's perspective um you're talking about your friends who are slightly more submissive or submissive but like you know they vulnerable well nice they're just nice people sometimes I'm not that nice

you Know what I mean I can be a you know I'm not even going to lie and sometimes I'm like why am I like this but I am I'm like this you know I'm I I come and attack through my words to my demeanor and it's just the Hustler Vibe of side of mine from back in the day that's why I'm like this but it's scares people sometimes especially these kind of people because of that fear I mean if it's actually a superstar that's being a predator or a massive producer or a Director that's being

a predator are there girls who unwillingly give in yeah oh listen a lot of people be like well why did she go why did she meet that person or why was she wearing what she was wearing or why was she uh entertaining this the situation in the end of the day whether you're a man or a woman and somebody proposes to you these kind of things in exchange for something immediately you are put in a situation where you can't say no and they know This so most people 90% of people that say that just go

for it or do whatever they do it's because they were not given a choice and those people know they're not giving you a choice if they're saying you really want it that bad you really need work that bad you really need to um and it's not just our industry uh rir it's in all industries by the way and not just Industries it could happen in the most most Um random situations and you're just like people sniff out vulnerable people and desperate situations if you really need money or if you need to work or if you

need certain things and if they're saying you need to do this for this automatically you have no choice and they know that couple of things that I want to say firstly your 46 million followers on Instagram are also an armor for sure in terms of finance and that's what a lot Of young professionals need to understand especially in media everyone's a content creator now 100% yeah I mean I am too I make money from YouTube I make money from content I put out you know I pray that you get everything that you want thank you

but in saying that even if you never sign a film you're financially going to take care of yourself for because not just because of those 46 million people but that's a massive part of your finances That's why I but here's the thing Ren like I'm going to tell you from when I was growing up because you're just talking about Bollywood I'm talking about even when I was 19 18 17 16 20 back in the day when I was hustling doing all the jobs that I was doing you know from working at McDonald's to working at

a Sharma place to working at tele marketing place and I was doing double shifts to performing at people's events I did everything right even at That time I met people who would try to Corner me or dangle things in front of me and you know be like well if you want this then you need to do this and that that wasn't even Bollywood that was just the streets of of Toronto you know what I mean like the most random place so as a woman uh now even as a man this point you will meet people

who are at a powerful position and they use it to their advantage um to in exchange for Something else and you have to know how to behave at that time so even at that time I never allowed any of that stuff to happen you also probably need a radar you you but you build a radar you develop a radar how do you pick up on Predator energy it's but it's a thing it really is a thing especially if if you if you're in tune with your life experiences and your journey you start to remember certain

characteristics and Certain things about people and then as you grow up you're like I've seen this before the truth is in the touch right yeah for sure unfriendly touch oh not just that that it's just when they enter when you just see them and you're like wait a second what is it in the look tells you okay Predator well if you read energies really well you can tell from the the way they look at you you can see from their body Language um the way they're talking there's just a way and sometimes they catch you

off guard sometimes you don't even know it it takes a whole conversation and then in the end of the conversation you're like oh are these The Most Dangerous Ones no those are just well they're all dangerous right and it's also how you make it sometimes they are dangerous but it's how you you you behave in the situation and how you you get yourself Out of it it just saddens me that there are people in the world that will want to use your desire for something or your situation um to their advantage it's very sad how

do you differentiate between a guy coming up to you with genuine nice intention versus these Predators I mean what if a guy is hitting never thought about that um but but you don't mind the energy of the guy it's like positive energy it's so hard To say now because there are so many different type of predators there are sexual predators who want right and then there are clout Predators who want to use you for your clout it's called Fame for yeah there I didn't know you could swear on the podcast oh my God B thank

God there are literally clout who will Court you who will do everything to make make you feel like they they want you and they actually just want your clout they just Want to use you for your Fame guys yes who want to date you for your F mhm yeah of course I'm sure that's a thing I'm just confirming for I'm not with me not with me I mean I this is fully guarded okay um and that's why you don't see me running around with guys or dating or uh you know this oh I think she's

with this one or that I stay alone because I got to filter everyone and know what everyone's intention is before I allow them in my vicinity um but I see it as Happening in front of me I see it in my industry people get married for clout people use you know these these um wives or husbands for networking for circles for money um for relevancy so that I can make sure I'm relevant for the next 3 years because she's got a few films releasing and they were doing well in the box office so I got

to ride that wave people are that calculative those are predators too no don't you think yeah not everything is About y I think everything that a human being does uh comes out of the motivation for power and money and money you know what I mean and fame also power but you could be famous and not powerful you could be powerful and not famous also right so it we got to talk about four categories and the amount of the crazy stuff that guys and girls will do they will destroy their whole Personal life for money Fame

power etc etc like nothing is worse than getting married to someone that you don't even love and living with them for years you see that at own come on now most of the people in our industry are doing that nonsense you know just because they want to be in the right camps and circles and they want want to be relevant because they don't know where their career is going to go so they need to you know have backup Plan plan a plan B plan C I totally understand being worried about your career and your and

your um your not potential but your your name and your brand I understand having to but I don't understand sacrificing your personal life and your mental health and your happiness because in the end of the day work is work and home life and personal life is something else you can't mix both of the things together because you'll never be Happy and then you wonder why you're depressed and you know suicidal and you know you can't sleep at night it's because you've mixed both things together unnecessarily due to Greed and bad intentions your intentions were wrong

to begin with I see this all the time and I'm like this is crazy I understand working hard to to stay where you are in the industry um you know doing multiple things in the industry maybe acting singing this this This this to stay relevant and make money I understand trying to build a proper Network base and and being a part of certain camps but that's then you got to work towards those things right but to start making personal life decisions because of clout and stuff I think it's like a predator it's almost predatory for

sure cuz the other person doesn't even know you're doing this the other person thinks you love them and you're married to them or you love them and You're dating them or Jia and actually you have something else going on that is scary there's a younger version of me that would have said you know what this is probably the substitute for a a lack of discipline and hard work and self-belief that the fact that you have to think about Plan B in the first place now that I'm older I kind of know that Destiny plays a

role at least that's what I've learned through the show uh I don't believe that Destiny is the Ultimate thing I think that of course it's like half hard work half fate luck whatever uh which is why I just question these realities is it the fact that they've tried with everything that they had all the discipline that they had and then they're forced to do this or the fact that forced to what be a predator no forced to marry for clout and uh forc to alter the personal lives for the sake of their careers that is

possibly the Biggest sacrifice that I can think of on a human level other than trading your soul with the devil no I just think that too of course there's a lot of people who sell their soul for the devil they sell their soul for everything um but they are also some of them Destiny of course I believe in destiny it's a thing right like the events are planned all you can everything yeah I I believe everything is written yes your job is just to like Work hard stay disciplined stay focused Etc and then you expect

that Destiny will do the yes job and I think there's an element of karma be a kind person yeah and and and then you said for example then Destiny doesn't play the way you wanted it to be played so then maybe they might do the things that we just discussed but you have to have a different type of spirit To act even off camera CU technically you're acting right you've made certain decisions you've dragged certain people in those decisions and you're playing a role for money or for career or for fame or for relevancy some

of them just want to be relevant you know um why because they're crazy because because it's a drug right like Fame is a drug money is a drug if you don't have self-control if you're not disciplined if you don't fear God There's a lot of things that come into play then the Devil Himself in Fame will attack and when he attacks he will take control of your spirit and your mind and your morals and your values so suddenly you start making certain decisions and doing things in your life that go against your morals and values

and you don't even care anymore because you're like I need the money I need the fame I need to be relevant I need to stick around I need to be here I need To it's crazy had you had the discipline self-control the fear of God the faith etc etc you would be able to balance the importance of money Fame work relevancy with real life and realize that this is great I have this or I had this but I cannot sell myself in my entire life for this forever because this is not forever what remains forever

is you your person your thoughts your actions your good deeds your spirit your faith all of these things remain forever Your relationships with people what good and bad you've did how many people you've helped you've you have you left a lasting positive mark on someone's life these are the things that matter right Fame and all these things they're great look I'm famous I have money too I've got the success and I have people who admire me and I'm doing all the things I've always wanted to do I'm fulfilling my dreams this is all great but

I'm doing this in the cleanest way possible By working really hard really hard giving all my time and effort building on my skill working on myself and being good to people that's it but I'm not manipulating and making decisions in my life and manipulating the people around me to get these things done this is where I'm like bro you're crazy I miss my childhood me too sometimes I I'm like I miss my childhood too you know isn't it so crazy that when we're kids we want to Grow up and become adults so quickly you were

like gosh Me Maybe you know uh heels P yeah makeup yeah whatever we see all these these things and then and then we grow up and we're adults and we're like it wasn't that great I might want to go back to being a kid you're desperate to be an adult when you're a kid it's so crazy some of these kids I'm like shut up stay being a kid and enjoy it while it lasts because you're going to have to pay taxes and bills when you Get older yeah the moment you're 18 or 22 you have

that wake up call and then you really really really really miss being a kid yeah I had mine when I was 16 that was my wake up call I'm like began working yeah my first job you're also 93 mhm I'm 93 I'm 92 but yeah okay okay I kind of same but it's fine give or take when you when you when you meet people in that same age range at least for me nowadays I I connect very deeply with that specific age bracket cuz we've All seen the same Quantum of trauma yeah in different ways

are you traumatized too yeah of course oh my God me too oh my God I there a lot of trauma I don't think one can chase Fame without trauma being the precurser or or you're born in like a a Fame oriented environment it's one of the two there has to be something that makes you want to have this kind of attention on yourself this much for sure you want validation you want constant validation You want um yeah it's the word validation that's what it is did you want to be famous when you were a kid

yeah yeah yeah of course it was so scary how much I wanted I forced the whole school to make me famous I've not met a single like famous person who doesn't say that yeah yeah yeah yeah oh like I yeah I have never met someone who's like no I've never wanted Fame and then I woke up one day and wanted to be famous it's Always like B always like I remember vividly seeing I don't even know where these tapes are anymore I was asking my mom the other day but homemade video tapes right recording tapes

and I remember seeing my mom or someone my dad or someone from the family recording me in a in a family function like a wedding or an engagement or whatever and I'm in the middle of the crowd demanding everyone's attention Watching Me dance and if I don't get the claps and all That I'll start crying and if my mom drags me from that Center I'll throw a huge fit like and throw myself on the floor like a crazy person and then I'm Only Happy When I run back to the circle and I'm like dancing everyone's

like and then I'm like yeah so that's scary I was three you know four like what was I doing asking for validation from The Crowd Oh man story of every social media Star at least and generally again every famous person I I have met some people who kind of becoming famous who say that they're not enjoying it and kind of want to leave and they were always the people who didn't want the fame so what did they want exactly the says probably they didn't know what they wanted that's true I agree there are people like

that um you know but also you know that a lot of people who are famous also have the person personality Trait that wants them to be famous like like you have it in you where you um not want the attention but want the admiration you know sometimes not all good not all attention is good attention right but you want the admiration and you want the the claps that's a personality trait I don't know what you call that I don't I hope it's not narcissism cuz then we're narcissism every famous person goes to We're probably narcissist

dude oh my God I don't know what it is but it's a personality trait two narcissists can't date each other I heard and two narcissists can be really good friends also because you understand each other's interesting I don't think it's look there's borderline narcissism hey I understand that to be a star and all that and and and be okay with Fame it's there a little bit hold um but if you're aware of it then you know how to control It I think there's another personality trait that a performer has I don't know if it's the

same for like a social media star or an maybe for an actor also but you know um the ability to put on a show and create an illusion yeah and H and have the audience kind of mesmerized and gravitated towards you and really like enjoy what you're doing and have their attention there's a personality TR I'm still trying to figure out what that is But not all not all stars have that also by the way have you ever read your own astrological chart by any chance mhm yeah okay we just had an astrologer on the

show recently okay I don't know how deeply into so he was a Vic astrologer and he taught me kind of like the Indian system okay okay of like reading the Hindu system of reading uh and the way he explained it like Atura who's like our producer he's a very like scientific thinking or and all of Us were convinced after that that guy was that good a speaker but there was also a lot of Truth in what he was saying what did he say which was for you a game changer um so I've been exposed to

Vic astrology a lot because of the show people I met friends exes like so I kind of had an idea about it this guy was just able to you can really break down the personality of someone like through that chart because it's very very Detailed but you need to know your birth time and you know your birth time uh no I got to ask yeah uh but it's it's pretty accurate at least from a personality perspective okay so this is quite deep this is not like your uh cuz you asked me astrology you just wake

up and you see what do Aquarius is what is this it's not that it's more deep all that's also deep but that's like kind of generalizing it's like the trailer of the movie the movie would be these deep Astrological charts I believe there are Arabic and Gregorian charts also which have their own systems but you need to be educated in that it's all based on the same thing it's based on astronomy position of stars stars Yeah so basically in the in the Vic chart they draw out 12 uh sections of the sky okay and they

call it 12 houses and each of those represents a bunch of things and depending on where the planets are placed you can kind of tell something of The personality of the person or their relationship with their father their mother their children their wife Etc husband Etc um the first house the core one represents who you are on the inside like what is your personality interesting so mine is something called rahu okay okay which is a planet that doesn't actually exist there are two planets in the whole uh system which don't exist so they don't count

Neptune and uh Uranus but they count rahu and Ketu which are not real planets uh but it's also I mean there's theories about what rahu and G some people say it's like a black hole around the solar system but if rahu is in your first house uh who you are on the inside is mystery and illusion and usually with people in media it's about illusion we were talking about something about illusion you said that that trait after the narcissism conversation uh I was wondering about What that personality trait is that makes you uh Captivate the

audience and have their attention seen and perform uh the Spider-Man movie with Mysterio no so in Spider-Man there's a villain called Mysterio his superpowers that he's able to create very elaborate Illusions and it confuses Spider-Man okay that's exactly what a media career is on many levels whether it's as simple as altering an Instagram post or caption to look a certain way or acting where Whole body language alters and and you embody a different character we're all shape shifters for sure yeah definitely that's the core of this career you PA to be a shap shifter for

sure so I I mean I wouldn't be surprised if even you had rahu honestly because it's related to it gives you potential to get Fame there are other plans even Venus is related to fame but Venus is in the first house I think is also related to the luxurious aspect of Fame interesting Glam and Stuff yeah like someone like Kylie Jenner would be like a very perfect Venus in the first house that's what I think I don't know about astrology no but it kind of makes sense but interesting I love that get your like chart

read once just to like know about yourself and again the core of astrology that it all can be changed through hard work and Good Karma uh but this is what's likely to happen that's why I've opened myself up to it Got it okay yeah nice I'm it's good to be open to receive new information and learn um I feel like I was telling you initially in the beginning of our podcast like we have to be alert and we have to gain knowledge especially in our industry and if you're a public figure um what's the most

difficult alone time thought that you have H it's hard because I'm almost of the time I'm alone so and I've wired my Brain which might not be a good thing but since the age of 16 even when I'm alone I'm just thinking about what's next what do I do next okay what do I got to do okay I got to do this this project that project this this is how my brain is constantly um not had a moment to sit and have empty thoughts or no no yeah never like even right now we're talking but

I'm also in the back of my head thinking about okay what do I got to do for the next couple of weeks That is going to be you know it's going to help me in my career for the next one year like I'm constantly thinking calculating doing this dot dot dot it's it's it's insane my brain works in a different level altogether I don't give time for myself to think about oh I'm feeling sad today because this boy didn't message me you know or oh my God I missed my best friend's birthday I don't I

just don't think I really it takes me a long time to get into a Situation like oh recently I was doing an interview and in that interview in the middle of it I'm looking outside of the window and I'm REM reminising about my past and about like the struggle of Bombay when I first came and how I might need therapy how did I come to that conclusion in the middle of an interview that's because I don't give time for my brain to process things at all I don't even process My Success sometimes it's really crazy

like when I said to you That um what bothers me the most is that I have to constantly prove myself and one of the reasons or the main reason is because only I know all the sacrifices I've made in my life only I know all the sacrifices I made in in my personal life and when I look at all those sacrifices I'm like boss like I did all this for my dream and I still am having a hard time to get people to be convinced or to get people to see me or to give me

chances and opportunities and to believe in me And and when I look at all those sacrifices I made I'm like oh damn that's crazy I'll never get that time back I'll never get those moments back I've missed so many things you know I there was times where I haven't seen my family in years um there's a whole you know gap of time that's gone like I've missed my friends birthdays when I talk about my friends they're not like friends or normal friends these are like family I grew up with them I went to School with

them they're my sisters I miss their their marriages their birthdays I've missed moments in life with them their child births their first child birth their engagements their anniversaries I've missed my brother's wedding I've missed the birth of his sons I've missed moments with my mom I've missed moments with my other brother I've missed their graduations I've missed their birthdays I've missed everything in the span of 10 years Chasing my dream and thankfully it's not been you know wasted I have made a name I am successful I've broken barriers I've broken stereotypes I've inspired a lot

of people people um but is it enough for you it's never going to be enough you like I'm I'm here talking about going global you know I just signed a global record deal with Warner America and Global Warner Global and I'm working towards my International career I want to be Global but of course that's going To come with so many sacrifices again I might have to sacrifice my personal life which I am currently doing I mean I don't focus on my personal life at all I don't take vacations I don't date I don't go partying

I don't you think it'll take away from your time um yeah 100% that's why you don't date oh no um maybe maybe it might take away my attention my drive my fire because in order to reach the success I'm Reaching and do the things that I do it requires full undivided attention it it requires that have you heard bad experience with someone yeah of course it did yeah is that the reason you don't want to date now um probably there there I'm not going to say there's only one reason I'm not going to say it's

only because I want to be focused on my career yes I want to be focused entirely on my career and I want to make everything come true and I want to be Super successful and I want to prove so many people wrong I have that fire in me but a part of it is because I had a terrible experience with someone who which was you can it on um it's not like that no it's worse you know it's way worse yeah it's way worse because people are always getting cheated on by the way on a

daily basis I don't know so it's not that okay I don't know what you've been through yeah just as a friend yeah for sure for Sure you've won the breakup oh of course yeah I have won the breakup or whatever that was I don't know if it was a breakup it was it was just a very weird weird experience I don't wish that on anyone so it's not your generic oh this person cheated this person broke up no it's something deeper darker scarier it was someone gone you it was I wish it was that it

was terrible I don't wish that on anyone but I got out of that safe Alive um and after that I was like no I need to protect my aura I need to protect my spirit I need to protect me so now I have a barrier around me and it's very hard to get through that very hard you have to be I don't know what to get through to that and I prefer that I prefer because I want to be safe I want I like I sacrificed so much for my career why would I allow some

all human to destroy that for me so that's why I created this barrier and I don't Focus on all this instead I work really hard to make my fans happy to make my friends and family proud of me and to prove all the haters wrong do you believe in love yeah of course I do I believe in love I believe in um God I believe in all these nice things I don't believe in humans it's true do you do you believe in the goodness of men um I believe in giving them chances and trying but

I don't Believe that they're perfect yes definitely believe and that and also women women are crazy they're not perfect either um but I don't believe in humans that's why I use the word humans we had Nina Gupta on the show and she had said something interesting she had said that uh both men and women need to realize that they need each other for sure they do need each other think that's true maybe another way of yeah this idea of like I Don't need anybody and feminism and no I don't believe in this at all in

fact I think feis Fe feminism up our society completely and the idea of being inherently completely independent and not having to get married and have kids and not having the male and female Dynamics in the home where the man is a pro provider and a breadwinner and the woman is a nurturer I don't believe in people who think that that's not true I think women are nurturers um yes they Should go to work and have their own life and be independent but to a certain extent they should also be ready to take on the role

of being a mother and a wife and a nurturer just like a man should be ready to take a role of being a provider and a breadwinner and a father and a husband I believe totally on this we call it old school traditional way of thinking I think I call it the normal way of thinking it's just feminism up a little bit and made us Really excited about this whole like freedom and Liberation and everyone's equal we are all equal in more more sentimental things but in societal things we are not equal I think everyone

plays their role yeah um another part of the Nina Gupta podcast was about how I think she was basically talking about the nature of the utrus MH and how it actually changes the physiology of the human body mhm and just the presence of the uterus and Female hormones and the kind of hormonal shifts you guys have over 1 month is so drastic oh yeah for sure that it's not built for modern society which is actually built for men mhm because jobs became a thing during the Industrial Revolution this 9 to5 thing yes yes yeah this

happened after the Industrial Revolution yeah you're right because men's hormonal Cycles change over a day and women's hormonal Cycles change over a month I'm not a girl m I don't have Perspective but I sent it to some of my smartest female friends some of whom are entrepreneurs some of whom are actors some everyone successful uh all of them agreed with it this is so true um in fact can we play the video actually I don't mind let's see it okay so have a look at this okay female physiology was not designed for the 8 to

5 grind this is because our hormones operate on completely different Cycles than men Women are on a 28-day cycle and men are on a 24-hour hormone cycle the traditional 8 to5 workday grind is designed to accommodate men's testosterone levels and women's hormones aren't even slightly taken into consideration when it comes to this schedule here's how it works men wake up with a surge of testosterone every morning which slowly declines throughout the day this makes them ready to get up and get after it first thing in the Morning day after day women on the other hand

are on a 28-day hormone cycle we experience four phases within our month-long menstrual cycle have different hormonal patterns every single day of our cycle and only get one Spike of testosterone which occurs during ovulation women also need more sleep than men are naturally more creative and need variation in their schedules to accommodate their daily hormonal shifts trying to get most women to thrive in Corporate settings is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and our bodies feel it it's no wonder we don't fit in and easily burn out when living a

corporate life lifestyle you're not broken lazy or not strong enough your hormones were just made for something different if you're feeling like you need a slower schedule need more time to yourself and want a way out of the 8 to 5 nothing is wrong with you women are strong and capable of so many things but We have to remember just because we can survive something doesn't mean we were made for it period I totally agree with it sorry I'm just seeing the comments interesting I find this very very interesting what are your thoughts on this

honestly I'm trying to understand it better at this stage because a lot of things that you process about the world as a guy are in binary so it's either Black or white and as you grow older as a guy you realize that Nuance things there's a gray section yeah so at this point I'm just trying to better my Nuance man and I'm trying to listen to smart and successful female friends of mine so I'll throw the ball back at you it's funny because you might ask all these successful female friends of yours and each one

might have their own opinion um some of them are still stuck in that feminism wave I was Talking to you about which has been hammered into our heads and our upbringing um through TV through music through other female uh Role Models etc etc I'm talking about the Western upbringing not here okay here it's still a little bit less than the how extreme it is in the west right that we grew up seeing visuals hearing audios being told that you know patriarchy is bad and um men who are not uh allowing you to you know be

a feminist they're bad and men Are bad and you know the society is bad if it doesn't allow you to struggle in life and work 9 to5 and uh you should not want to be a mother and have kids and get married that's all old school and so that that kind of mentality has been hammered um subconsciously in the last I'd say 20 years funny enough in the last two three years I'm seeing videos like this now crop up I'm seeing people talk more on podcasts about how the society has gone to the extreme side

Of of feminism and it's destroyed the the family unit um it's destroyed the feminine energy of a woman to want to be caring and nurturing and you know create a household um and this extreme need of wanting to compete with a man and if you don't compete with a man then you're not adequate these things people are starting to question more yeah I mean as a guy I can only speak from my Experience I've dated a couple of girls who were feminists and there was a lot of differences between the two mhm one of them

her career wasn't moving forward okay very quickly uh and my experience there with her was negative interesting uh the other one her career was moving forward and she was also a feminist and uh both would like lecture me about where they thought I was going wrong sure and I take it from both but with The good one uh she would lecture me from a place of love and nurturing interesting uh with the one who intents to deal with she she would compete with me a lot so do you notice that it this has similarity to

religion that religion is a great thing but when it becomes radicalized in extreme it's dangerous so feminism is the same thing feminism inherently on the base level is great the foundation of it is great I also you know advocate for women's rights I also Want girls to go to school I also believe in all these things however when feminism becomes radical which is what has happened in the last 15 to 20 years it's dangerous for the society and now the society and people are seeing the repercussion of this radicalization of feminism families are suffering kids

are suffering women's mental health is suffering people it's almost like what is happening right now is that you know when you shake a coke bottle and then You open it and it goes so this is happening right now um and people are fed up people are tired people are having immense anxiety they don't understand it's because they've been uh in this dog race when then they're not meant for this dog race now people want to be in their soft girl era people want to be their in feminine energy people want to find themselves people so

there's a lot of epiphanies happening right now do you think the right man can Unlock a woman's true feminine yeah for sure you see with your friends at least MH with yourself mhm yeah 100% yes yes yes like for example I know I'll just speak about myself I have a masculine trait about me for sure because of how I've kind of had to be in survival mode since day one and I've kind of unleash that part of me so dominant dictator taking control can give manly Vibes sometimes however um I need to do that to

be able to be good You know I I have to take care of people I the bread winner of my family as I was telling you I take care of my friends I take care of everybody so I am the head you know of the family so inherently you you kind of give a bit of masculine energy with that with the right man who knows how to take care of me who's a provider who is a supporter and a protector I will automatically surrender and feel safe because obviously with with the the space that I'm

in I don't Feel safe so I have to create this kind of energy to be safe right with the right man like I said with those characteristics I mentioned automatically your feminine energy kicks in automatically biologically you feel like all right now I feel safe to do what I meant to do can we break down the right man thing a little bit better sure that's how I figured I mean how to be better as a guy through questions like this okay so first of all you as a man Need to tap into your masculine energy

let's start there because I feel like our society right now with what's going on uh a lot of the factors in our environment have led to men losing their masculine energy which is a problem for us women who are looking for men with masculine energy right an easy way of quantifying this not quantifying or like an example of this would be guys not taking care of their Fitness there you go maybe okay that's one thing what else Okay masculine energy comes in different forms right it could be physical it could be emotional it could be

mental right you can take care of yourself physically and go to the gym and you look like a man with great masculine energy but here it's zero and if here it's zero that I have you can't provide me anything so masculine energy the one I'm talking about where you become someone who can hold a house down who can have a family who can become a Provider you have to change the way you think you have to be ready to be a provider you have to be ready to be a supporter and you have to be

ready to take the protective role in the society a lot of men don't want to do that anymore you see that with guys no no not anymore a lot of men don't want to do that anymore like they don't want to take care of a family and they don't want to yeah they they don't they don't a lot of men now have also been Brainwashed in the feminism era who are like oh all right cool you want equality all right let's be equ equal in everything let's be equal in in the protection Department in the

providing Department in the home in the emotional department now men want to compete with women in everything which is wrong I think everyone needs to play their role if a man can work on being more of a provider and more of a protector the woman then needs to focus on being more Of the nurturers everyone brings something to the table so if you're bringing to the table money food shelter I need to bring to the table kids being a mother taking care of the house cooking etc etc because if we're both bringing the same thing

to the table then who's going to bring the other stuff do you understand what I'm trying to say but this is of course very old school traditional way of thinking but I believe in this and I Think it's coming back I think every guy at least that I know also believes in what you're saying even girls trust me even girls eventually when girls start going out in the workforce and they struggle and they hustle and they see how crazy the world is and they get older and they become more mature and they see life experiences

they start to realize what's more important they start to realize what role they want to play what they're More happier doing they start to be more in in touch with their hormones with what biology says right there's one thing what the TV says what the society says and then what your body and what your chemicals and your and your system is telling you our system tells us to be nurturers whether we like it or not I mean there's going to be a lot of people are going to disagree with me like your comment section is

going to be like ah she's old school she's a Hypocrite Etc I'm not I I I genuinely believe what is a fact is a fact which you decide to do with your life that's a different story but what is a fact is a fact and I do genuinely believe that once we are ready to accept this the equilibrium in the society is going to come back to how it is all this chaos is happening is because of of this extreme extreme of thinking extreme way of doing things extreme ideologies once we come back to moderation

the balance happens People will be less depressed people will have less anxiety and things will make more sense in life I almost felt like someone who I had an experience with that girl because her life wasn't in place she had become sexist towards all men because she had a lot of stuff going on with her father and that trauma would make its way to me yes of course it will of course is what do you think not just you but the man the next man and the man after that like I've had Female guests come

on the show way back who've literally said all men are assh all men are and we've not uploaded that episode this is like but why not why didn't you upload it because I feel like um I mean I can see why you didn't but at the same time it could have been a great eye opener to a lot of people to see that hey we having a problem in our society if women are thinking like this and speaking like this boss problem Exactly it was probably my seventh recording I wasn't nuanced enough to even like

debate with her because when she said that there was like six guys in the room with her recording the podcast they're like bro we're we're men and again guys are also kind of complex you know at least the modern guy is not as simple as our father's Generations that's true yes like we have dealt with our own fair share of also of course yes age the pressure on Guys is about earning money it is crazy it is about it's about being a provider yes definitely but don't you think that as a man when you're working

towards being a provider knowing that on the other side there's a woman working at being a nurturer isn't that going to make it much easier for you to work towards being a provider more motivational just that sentence gave me goosebumps that other part is missing which makes it more crazier and Difficult for you guys I I totally sympathize I understand that's where we got to come in and work on the better half of this equation you guys work at being better providers and we work at being better supporters and nurturers and essentially in the end

of the day mothers because that's what we're going to end up being most of us most of us there are some people who probably don't care about this but I'm just talking about the society as a general uh you Know that this is going to be clipped up by the internet not by my team it's going to make its way to social media pages and some of the top comments are going to be oh look at Nora FIA so much pick me energy a lot of people don't care about what comes out of my mouth

um because they don't expect the things that come out of my mouth but um you you've not done enough podcasts also on honestly no I probably did like one or two yeah because people don't ask me the Right questions so you're you're really street smart dude yeah I mean survival definitely no definitely that's one thing I know I am is street smart and I'm also no filter and I I'm not someone who's going to say things because it makes you feel better so I don't have pikme energy in fact in fact I have the more

other energy where it's like oh my God what is she about to say like my whole team is probably outside freaking out because they know that this has no Filter but look honestly it's great to have these kind of conversations because it also teaches people not to uh stereotype you know like when you judge a book by its cover just because a certain person looks a certain way or you know you cannot just be like oh they probably have this kind of mentality I have a certain kind of mentality because I'm educated I went through

life I my brain absorbs in a way I I I'm able I've Seen different kind of lives it's like like cat with nine lives I've seen different kind of lives I've lived in different types of places with different types of people I'm educated not even in the school sense but in in other senses too like I don't want to get into it but hence why I'm able to speak the way I speak hence why I am someone that people should listen to what I'm saying because I've Lived these experiences and I'm able to tell you

that boss like we're having a problem right now and we have to fix it and this is how I think we're going to fix it um but yeah I mean whatever you don't have pick me energy don't pick me energy I'm just like off you know J and a that's your problem right it's like but that's that's the beauty of the internet if you don't like what someone's saying just scroll that's it don't I see why people would find you Intimidating and I'm not just talking about guys here just people in general yeah yeah definitely

definitely I mean it is what it is but I'm glad we had this conversation because um I'm sure there are a lot of guys and women sitting at home right now trying to figure themselves out trying to obviously make other people happy make the society happy but they're not happy inside and they don't know what it is and maybe this could provide maybe a bit Of a light in the end of the tunnel to figure it out you know there's a theory behind why podcasts have taken off all over the world uh no one knows

for sure but everyone assumes that it's because loneliness has increased in the world oh yeah so much so much do you feel lonely at all um during the lock it felt lonely because I was locked in my house alone for how however months we were locked right it was just me and my walls now now it's hard to feel lonely because I'm Constantly around people like it's my job to be around a crowd around staff team um audience production I'm constantly around humans um do I feel like I'm trying to think about where I want

to go with this now yes like I'm thinking about my personal life more than ever um your personal life yes yeah for sure like thinking about are you dating someone no no I'm not single yeah yeah I'm single I'm single so I'm trying to figure out how to let those walls Down again you know the ones that I built because of the experience I had I'm trying to figure out how to screen people more you know read them a little more not allowing dangerous people in my in my environment my surroundings and I'm also trying

to figure out what I want okay what do I want from a man besides the things that we discussed the basic things where can I find them you know what I mean because like we said there's very few now who have this Mentality a lot of them now are like whatever I'm just going to compete with a girl and whatever it is it is what it is yeah of course A lot of them are also tired of competing and trying to stick to the societal norms and it's a tough world that we live in today

so I'm trying to figure out what kind of person I want where how am I going to do this trying to figure out I have this love for my career what I I also want to be a mom I also want to be a wife I also want To take care of my home so I have to think about how I'm going to balance both of them because I also want to take over the world right so people are probably in the comment section saying she's a psychopath you know I mean she doesn't know what

she wants but I want both so now that I know my personality tradeit is like this and I know that probably destined for this now I have to figure out how I'm going to do both of them yeah what's the Foreigner Perspective on Indian guys in terms of dating it's hard it's really hard like if you're from South America your perspective is going to be different right if you're from Europe your perspective is going to be different I am again an Arab North African woman my perspective is like you guys are just like Middle Eastern

and African guys like it's the same there is no difference really to be honest with you So this whole personal life mathematics that you're doing what have you figured from it like what do you want for example at this point I have figured that I need stability that's what I need like the most like I and and I've had a phase where I was seeing someone who was 4 or five years younger than I I am okay and that was too much of a an age gap for me cuz I felt like that phase of

life where they like 24 25 there's too many variables too young It's too young and uh right after that I started dating someone who was like around my age and it was so much more stability stability gave me a sense of healing almost oh yes for sure you cannot you're in your 30s now you're going into a different phase in life a phase of where you're going to start thinking about these things that we've been speaking about you cannot be dating someone who's 22 because she's in a different space in her mind completely She's still

trying to figure out who she is you know what I mean that was my thought before dating her okay and she pursued the relationship more and she told me that hey you know what I understand you're in like a marriage and stable relationship zone so am I but once we began dating it started like kind of breaking down because she wasn't actually in that space and I have another female friend who I was uh after I broke up with this particular girl I Just told her that hey you know this is what happened to me

that female friend of mine told me that you know a lot of girls especially in media will portray uh another reality in order it's like the I mean I don't like saying this but it's sort of like the player version of girls yeah for sure that that happens yes of course because as a guy you assume girls are really sweet girls are so this so you assume girls are sweet I think I got played in that one equation But I'm realizing that now and it's not I'm not saying that I'm some D like I have

also made mistakes in my life I've never been a player but I may not have given uh 100% to certain relation I never cheated or anything okay but just in terms of you were not in 100% maybe I wasn't as into it as the girl was uh and a few times I've been on the receiving end two or three times in my life I've been on the receiving end but I'm more into it And the girl's not uh but the fact that a girl lied to me like this was the first time like obviously because

you said no and she wanted something she can't have and a lot of girls I must let me put a disclaimer here guys I'm not speaking about every one this is just general that's all there are obviously women who are great and girls who are great um but there are a lot of girls who if you say no they want it even more and then they will say Anything to get it um even for example for you to be like hey I'm in a whole marriage serious space and she said yeah me to you're 23

why are you even thinking about that but that's because you said no and she wanted something that she couldn't have and she's ready to risk it all for it which is crazy but this women are like that a lot of women are like that definitely and we are not sweet girls are not sweet girls are not sweet Whoever told you that don't be naive it's probably the perception you have because of seeing Kajol with shauk Khan yeah I know but in the real world as much as we know we bash men cuz like we have

this thing where it's in fashion to bash men and be like men are all and a lot of women are crazy a lot of women are crazy a lot of women are conniving a lot of them will are great actors in real life maybe not in front of the camera but in real Life yes and they will portray a certain image and um they will suck you in to a a reality that doesn't even exist you know they that's how I felt mhm yeah they will lie to you they'll play you they'll manipulate situations and

they will emotionally manipulate you oh man some girls are so good at that what is emotional manipulation what do you mean emotional manipulation it's it's it's it is what it is manipulating your emotions Manipulating their emotions on you getting the guy to like you more making you feel um bad about things guilty about things changing your mind about certain things changing your perspective about certain things uh changing the course of certain of where things are going um maybe changing who you are how you think what your beliefs are of course women can do all that

but what's the kick like why why do this in the first place CU Women are crazy most not all I mean I know guys also do this Stu men also do that men do it to a different different degree in different aspects in different departments but yeah women some there are some great girls out there too who are like boss I just want a good guy I want a normal life I want stability and security and then there are some girls who are so crazy I'm like what why did God even Create you but yeah

that's that's also there some humans that are so crazy yes and that's why I feel like it's the parents this responsibility when they're bringing you up to educate you about this so that you're aware so that your intuition becomes strong when you're growing up and you can start filtering the crap as you go along it's crazy as you brought this up okay because the break this is what I was thinking about I was thinking that I Need to speak about intuition to you mhm so everyone has intuition everyone right you just have to be so

self-aware to connect to your intuition and understand what it's trying to tell you have you seen so many people that after the fact then they go oh my God this was telling me something I felt something here and it's kind of too late now that happened so many times so when it happens so many many times in your life you have to be alert and smart enough and connected With your soul to be like okay the next time it happens I know what I'm going to do the next time it happens I'm going to be

aware I'm going to listen to it and I'm going to make certain decisions based on that that takes a lot of time that takes um maturity life experiences you have to live life to actually start understanding what this is trying to tell you and there are times where this is telling you something and you're like shut up shut up shut up wait I I have to Do this or I have to go here I have to talk to this person and then you're like okay maybe I should have not done this but yeah after Raman

do you feel heightened intuition yeah even during during also because of fasting yeah yeah because I fast every day every day even though I'm working and and everything but I never leave my fast every day since the age of 14 I have fasted it's just been instilled in our brains like when I was 14 and like when you are supposed to start fasting after your puberty your parents hammer it in your head you have to fast um so growing up we went to school fasting we went we did everything fasting it was normal so when

Ramadan came you stuck to it so even now people are like how are you fasting and you're working and you're traveling every day you're on a flight every day you're on sets every day you have to be active a part of my job description is to be Physically active as a performer right but um I don't break my fast I keep my fast going and then you keep it going whatever it's not it's not the end of of the world in fact it's a great time for me to become more disciplined um and more spiritual

and when you know that you're going into a situation that's going to be physically mentally tough you just streng strengthen your discipline and and and it works so well in other aspects in life in your work in Your relationships you think differently you act differently um and I have so much respect for people who fast and are still working like there's an athlete recently he was speaking about he's a basketball player he's fasting while he's playing basketball and you know everyone's like how are you doing it he's like well it's it's my duty I have

to do it and have to be spiritually inclined and respectful to My Religion but I still have to go to work so I why Do I have to choose this or this so I fast I go to work and in the midst of all this I feel more in tune as you said to my intuition more in tuned to my actions my thoughts um and more spiritually sensitive yeah you also pray yeah yeah for sure yes yes that's the that's where the intuition comes from yes 100% I think you're right it's the same thing as

when people meditate I feel like medit yeah It no prayer is definitely meditation um and when you go into your zone of connecting with your creator um whoever that is for you or for anyone else you're on a different different realm I feel like spiritually and mentally that's the survival skills Shield that people don't understand because people are trying to practical lie and rationalize everything but when you actually begin praying with your heart you realize everything that it gives you Especially if your ambition is huge especially if your ambition is huge listen it's not just

ambition but especially if you are sensitive to Nazar sensitive to um people who don't have good intentions or good will for you especially if you're out exposed to the world you know you need a shield you need safety you need something to guard you and I think prayer really does guard you and help you get out of certain situations um When we pray five times a day what's so beautiful about it is that in the chaos of the world and whatever you're doing there's two minutes that you stop and you remember your Creator and you

thank him and you also ask for things you ask for protection you ask for forgiveness you ask for all these things and it's so nice to have that ability five times a day if you are able to pray five times a day I'm not saying I pray five times a day there are sometimes I forget to Sometimes I'm too busy sometimes I'd only do two or three I it's a working progress for me between me and myself I work towards doing that but when you can it's a moment where you connect and you remember certain

things and of course when you remember to be more grateful and thankful the universe or God gives you more right it's it's it's a transaction almost right the Law of Attraction um and when you're seeking a moment with your Creator automatically that makes you more spiritually stronger and that makes you more protected from the external things that are coming your way especially if you're a public figure okay so this is something I wondered about namas when you're sitting for it there's a month there's a chant you're doing in your head right so while you're chanting

are you also thinking of your wishes so you're not chanting so what what you're doing is first there Are things that we memorize when we're doing our namas so you're memorizing the shahada right which is your UMO yeah well your shahada is basically bearing witness that there's only one God etc etc right so you're reiterating that once you reiterate that you start to read the ayats from the Quran which you're memorizing there are specific ayats that we have to say when we start our pray prayer like s ayat sorry suras like Surah fa that's a

Surah that we Have to always start our namas with and all Muslims who pray have memorized this Surah so we always start with that Surah means a whole chapter basically of the Quran then there are um is it like in the form of poetry yeah so it really is yes yes it really is yeah and you recite it when you're reciting it you recite other chapters of the Quran and then you start to say things like I thank God I thank God the Creator I thank God the Creator And then when you prostate and you

have your your um head to the floor and you're praying that is the moment where you're asking for forgiveness that is the moment where you're asking for anything you you're making your duas basically that is the moment where you're connected to God at a different level altogether um and people use that moment for a lot of things to say a lot of things most people use that for forgiveness really because we are Sinners right throughout the day we're constantly sinning so that's the moment where again you're reconnecting with God again you're trying to clean your

slate um and then when we get up again we recite the suras again we do our ayat again and then we go back down and it is kind of a bit of it is literally meditation really is because what you're doing when you're meditating you're chanting right but you're chanting really strong words they have Meaning they have spiritual meaning right um and they opening Realms where you're start to connect with another higher energy so when we are doing our namas and whatever we say as much as I'm saying their suras and their ayat but they're

they have a lot of strong meaning and energy attached yes and power attached to them so we are technically it's it's almost the same it's almost the same yeah but it it's it's there's a whole science behind Prayer and I think because we've been so distracted with worldly things and technology and phone and Instagram and um there was a period of time where it wasn't cool to be religious and it wasn't cool to talk about spirituality and it wasn't cool to be connected with your so that era which I think it's disappearing slowly yeah in

that era people didn't want to think about this or talk about it now we're going into an Era where people want to talk about it more they're open-minded they want to learn more I think we should take this opportunity to research these things more because there is a science behind why we do what we do why we pray why we connect ourselves to our creator and why we meditate and why we isolate ourselves for some time and we try to um almost connect con our our inner being with the higher energy the higher power uh

there's a saying that came up On the show in one of our past episodes where someone said that you know we're so obsessed with reality that we don't understand that reality will actually begin after this reality ends and realize is this even real yeah that all this is a dream yeah and you're just playing your part in the illusion look it's possible we have to be open to all these things words have power paragraphs have power poetry uh language has power especially Ancient languages um I think what I was getting to with that question was

about what was the word you said before Dua like you bend on do the Dua but right before that the paragraph uh the suras suras yeah so that would be in word right right mhm mhm that you're you're taking it in you're memorizing it and duas outward and you go back doing something inward something that you've already memorized Doas are things that are coming out of from your system from your brain so there's uh receiving and then there is giving that happens while you're receiving does any other thought enter your head yes of course look

here's the thing about praying right and meditating you have to have immense selfis displine and self-control which is so hard to do as a human and even like the dean even the religion tells you this that when you're praying it is probably one of the Most hardest things because you have to be mentally so focused that your brain cannot go anywhere else you can't be thinking about what am I going to do today what's the daily schedule or did I eat did I not eat did I switch off the light in the bathroom before or

after that I what is my friend going to call me what am I going to do next you can't be thinking you have to be only focused on that one thing that moment you have with your creator so how do you do that As a human when we are so multi-dimensional we are most of us multitask our brains are uh running on Thousand kilometer per hour uh a lot of us have ADHD also there's a lot of factors so how do you do this I'm sure when you meditate you have a hard time tuning out

too right for the full time that you're meditating so what happens is you might tune out for a second and then you bring yourself back again yeah happens again you bring yourself back Again and then you keep doing that until you're so disciplined which is hard but you work towards that and once you're able to have that kind of mind control on yourself imagine what all you can do in your life in other departments how much discipline and self-control you can have so what essentially what you're doing is you're building on your character you're building

on your morals and values and you're building on you as a human when You're outside in in the Society you're able to control yourself more um and you're probably able to sin less too you're able to make certain decisions because you're controlling your mind better you have more um self-control but it's a deep conversation that's like a different episode altogether because nobody's ever asked me this question so this would be kind of new for a lot of people to hear me speak about this kind of topic but definitely this could be a Separate uh episode

because I think a lot of people are interested to know everything but behind what we just discussed prayer builds you up that's what I Tru believe it definitely builds you up and it builds your uh your faith it solidifies your faith and it creates a um it creates a protection a border around you and many people have said this there have been spiritual people who have said this there have been uh scientists who said this many People say that prayer in a very mysterious way protects you spiritually not everything has to be Quantified or understood

of course of course 100% I mean experience you can't see air right but it's there you know what I mean so hey didn't expect that we'll go here Nora almost the end we can do a part to this year sometime we're almost at the end of the episode it was really cool getting to know the human inside it was really nice I'm really happy I came I Did not expect any of this I thought we'd be talking about random stuff I'm glad we went deep I'm glad we spoke about certain topics that maybe other people

would not feel comfortable speaking about but you know um I had a duty to be unfiltered coming here for you also as much as you had a duty to ask me the right questions and I hope people learned something today um I think one thing probably a lot of people will go home with whether they agree With some of the things I say or not and also people's don't forget people's ideas change right people's mental thoughts change opinions change today these are my opinions I don't know what my opinions are going to be when I'm

45 right life changes you you see things right now this is who I am um and I think what people will take home is not to judge a book by their cover by its cover and also to be more open-minded and to realize that people are not the Same people don't think the same people don't live by the same values and thoughts and to also be more sensitive okay there's a lot to unpack with you uh over the next few episodes which will happen over the next few years I hope to see you at least

once every year because I love that you're I didn't even know you were this great I mean I watched some of your stuff and I'm like you're cool you're fun your stuff goes viral but beyond that it's Deep and I'm so glad I could find someone that could discuss the more deeper things because I think that's what people want to know right now life is so hard people are going through it man people are going through and I think it's nice that have a moment and to discuss the deeper things on a more metaphysical level

You're simply helping a past version of yourself that's the present version in another timeline yeah because I would have loved to see Someone like me growing up when you were 20 years old this is like the kind of that you wanted answered then so I'm almost jealous of like the 20-year-olds who get access to not just this show a lot of other stuff yeah all the world of content totally there's this increase in worldwide consciousness that everyone can sense uh some people view it as an increase in worldwide pain but I think that that's uh

how meditation works you have to face your Pain your trauma first until it starts getting better I agree so I think the Earth is meditating at this point I think so too okay yeah Nora F thank you this podcast was like meditation for all of us and I'm very excited to see how the internet uncovers more of you because you have a lot to say I've not done Justice to experiences like in this conversation but we have many more conversations 100% whenever you need me I'm here thank appreciate it a lot thank You no thank

you that was the episode for today ladies and gentlemen the harsh truth is that I struggled to find English guests for this podcast there's an infinite number of Hindi guests and if the universe gifts us with an epic guest like this I know for a fact that the English podcast is safe at least for a little while longer today's conversation has just gotten over Nora has just left my house so I've not processed it completely but all I can Say at this point since she's left is that this was one heck of an inspiring lady

myself my team we're all feeling a sense of inspiration we're all feeling a sense of fire and our energy isn't drained that's Nora F's real energy that you've gotten a glimpse of in today's episode she's going to be be back on the show some epic DRS episodes are coming your way keep supporting this podcasting journey is just getting started [Music]