The 23-Year-Old Making Normal People Rich

250 kids that have made six figures in 204 it's [ __ ] like that like crazy [ __ ] so you made 250 people over $100,000 25 did in a month um 25 people made $100,000 in a month bro on on everything I've ever Lov swear to God in 2024 and that's like money in the pocket like affiliate profit highest was like 225 or something wow you know Silly number how many have you made Millions uh I know of three who made Seven figures in a year Uhhuh as affiliate creators bro how much money do

you make whoa oh there it goes um six figures a month a month uh-huh how old are you I'm 23 years old okay what do you do I own a community called creators corner where I teach people how to become creators short form creators for Brands largely on Tik Tok Tik Tok shop and assist them in that and from that I have brands that I work with so it's basically like a you know marketing agency for Tik Tok and short form media Work with clients help these creators that's pretty much it cool bro so I

had Rob on rob the bank uhhuh and he was talking about some mysterious guy in the shadows that was really helping him with these creators uhhuh come to find out that's you and so I would love to find out cuz you've built like this machine that's just printing cash for Ecom Brands but it's almost like it almost feels like a modern day college at the end of the day with like a very Clear like you join this you learn the skill set we pair you with another brand that we work with instantly you start making

money and then it grows our brand which is probably like your private Equity side if I had to make fancy words for it so really good analysis really though that that's that's spot on right there um the only thing I would change there is like Le I I don't think of it leading as making the Brand's money I think of it As leading to make the creators money and that's something that held very dear to me like starting through all this stuff and like we can walk back through the whole story like I think the

culmination of my story makes the most sense of how we got to this point um but yeah it's largely what you just said right there creators Corner this is basically where you teach people how to be creators you call it ugc like ugc creators creators they make content for Brand specifically and I'm assuming through Tik Tok shop largely yeah so like I'm always just going to say largely because there is little pieces of stuff where we do it a little bit differently I ugc you could call it that I just say content creators you know

cuz they're not influencers and they're not really the typical ugc style creators you know ugc typically refers to at least how I Define it as uh you know creators who are making those videos That go for like paid ads and stuff like that and they're they're usually not being posted for organic reach everything we do pretty much is like organically done you know like trying to go viral stuff like that so that's why we're on Tik Tok you know it's the best platform for that 100% okay I like to get really specific so you basically

you have a an offer you have a course basing prog that teaches people how to be Creators what are you specifically teaching them so I'm teaching them you know all the all the things that I've learned over the four and a half years of doing this which is why I was saying like my story builds into why I came to Creator Corner start with then start there that's that's help let's do it let's do it so um I'm 23 years old I grew up in uh palto California Bay Area um very like wealthy area you

know it's very expensive to live this is like Silicon Valley I don't know if you're like familiar with it yeah it's a it's a very interesting place dude you know it's like this where Apple was founded Google all this kind of stuff um a lot of wealth a different type of wealth where it's not like La flashy stuff it's like very like you know the nicest cars you'll see are probably Teslas and everybody has them um but there's all this crazy [ __ ] going on and my parents just happened to move there 35 years

ago And bought this little tiny house we I didn't not come from a lot of money at all bro like in a lot of ways I always grew up thinking I was broke and everything like that um and and the scheme of things like basically was um so I grew up in this little 12 1300 foot house two parents my brother um and I learned about money really young like my my dad my dad and I have like an interesting relationship I'm really really close to my mom she's like I I'll Refer to her a

lot probably through this um she's like my hero but my dad my parent parents they got this really right in my opinion growing up of like just allowing me to you know experience money and do those things I had like a very very obvious natural pull to this like I just Lov Commerce the idea of giving someone a service or providing a product and they pay me you know that's just dope to me um you know I'm sure you had a similar thing right you know it's It's it's it's amazing um so that like started

with like garage sales my parents used to let me sell my old [ __ ] um in our driveway and I remember always be in the front running the cash like literally like 78 years old like just like give me your money like I was counting this you know I was like all about it um and from there they spiral into hustles I was always that kid selling [ __ ] like a a lot of my hometown friends are not surprised of this story Which is like crazy you know um and from there you know

went to college always did well in school uh but nothing nothing crazy I I was never thought I was going to drop out of college or anything like that which is something I still I'm like what like where are we at right now you know I was not I was a hustler but I was never like super Against the Grain type of dude um even to this day I'm like not super like that um but yeah basically did all that stuff Hustling you know I sold tie-dye socks in seventh grade um you know I I

sold snacks out of my locker all the classic hustles um worked every single type of job you could have in high school went to college this school in uh Orange County called Chapman University um and was there I was a freshman during 2019 2020 so when I was attending the school um had one of my most legendary hustles I don't know if you've ever seen these I don't know how how much you've You' Dove on my stuff but uh I had a dorm room bar um and for legal reasons I'm going to say everything was

was virgin um it wasn't but uh you know I was just out here having fun dude you know and I was like I'm going I'm going to go broke partying I might as well like have some fun with this hustle and I was selling drinks out of my room and I was like damn I really everywhere I go doesn't matter where I go I'm always going to be doing this like this is what I love to do you know provide a service that people pay me for you know and have a good time while doing

it um and then Co hit crazy time how old are you 28 you're 28 I'm an elder bro really this space will make you feel old and tell you you're old and you're not which is something I realized crazy dude you know um it it's it's just wild that the times we're in how young you can get started with this [ __ ] so 2020 Co happens um and I'm like [ __ ] I lost this this this hustle that was great bro like it was it was I went to the Chapman's like a smaller

school um USC rejects is what they call it it's like a mini USC and I was like damn like what am I going to do bro like I I've been seeing this for so long of like actual real money that's made online and there was this kid in my fraternity who had a uh a Lamborghini I didn't know what the hell that meant you know and the kid told me he's like dude I do Amazon FBA and he was this kind of mysterious character that would like come in and out um turns out there was

like more to that story I'm not going to get into it but like you kind of figure it out uh but regardless like he inspired me you know um and he was like yeah I did Amazon FBA and like you could do it too bro he's like I see what you're doing just go do that and don't give up and that [ __ ] really stuck with me I was like damn I feel like if you You can you can do anything if you just don't give up and you just go like the only way

you fail Loki is how you give up huh he's like yeah I lost money like just keep going bro you'll figure it out I like okay okay this this is this is something um and left school feeling inspired you know at that time it was like I don't know if you remember this like March 2020 like they're like is it going to be two weeks are you gonna be coming back like this and that like it Was kind of up in the air um so I actually went home and then had to drive all the

way back so it was like 10-hour drive from I grew up in the Bay Area back up to Orange County and drove back and I remember calling my friend I have this friend Evan who actually has a office down the street from you guys now um and this is like my childhood best friend he always like you know just just he's not as much of a natural husters me just one of those amazing guys that's Like always down for the [ __ ] ride down we talk the entire car ride okay 10 hours on the

phone legit um I hope he sees this and remembers this you know um but uh I'm like dude we got to do some [ __ ] bro like we gota like let's let's let's [ __ ] try some [ __ ] you know like like what are some shits we can do you know there's FBA the FBA is hard like there's stuff that goes into it that just scared me I knew I was going to like of like certificates you got to Get wholesale tra I was like [ __ ] that [ __ ] that

um and then this thing pops up says Drop Shipping I'm like why not like let's just do it like you know worst case we we Lo we learned some [ __ ] you know and he's like let's do it and we just jump on Drop Shipping the first person I ever watched and I bought his course was uh Scott Hil who just with him great guy bro amazing guy bro shout out Scott Hil like we're really good friends now too um we pretty Good friends but I've told him this whole story um he's mysterious as

[ __ ] bro Scott Hil always in the was doing some lit [ __ ] he just living in Colorado BR uhhuh yeah just always up to something side quest King you know um and his course was phenomenal bro and it was funny that that uh the mindset stuff on his [ __ ] was just like life-changing for me you know he was like saying the whole thing of don't give up all this kind of stuff his story was similar I Remember him saying this one thing that that I held very dearly where he was

like yo you know you're going to spend money on this and you're going to lose money and if it bothers you you know if $1,000 or whatever bothers you just remember that that even just 20 years ago you'd have to spend $30,000 to get a brick and mortar business and there was no online money and all this kind of [ __ ] and if you can't understand that and realize that you're blessed Even be able to spend that and lose money and do this and make money online then business probably isn't for you and I

was like I am not going to do that business is for me I know myself I'm sticking with this um start grinding instacart during this time uh was doing like 40 hour 50 hour weeks in instacart during Co it the money then was like to me was crazy you know it probably 30 40 bucks an hour but like I was like same this I was like I'm going To put it all into this little account with Evan we're going to split this and we're just going to go um and we start [ __ ] around

with this Drop Shipping [ __ ] just to progress it basically we get started on this we put it we put it into like a a joint account so it's not like going out of our personal it wasn't even no LLC none of that [ __ ] and we started reading at the same time which was massive um and just start being delusional and It was the best time in the world to be delusional 2020 you know you could do whatever you wanted then no one's watching you you're not in school everything's over the phone

you know it's a great time very very blessed you know um and you know we start journaling all this kind of stuff something I'll talk about later um and we're like dude we're going to make it with this [ __ ] we're going to make it I don't know how we're going to make it with this stuff And you know we were I don't I don't know if you could get more dumb than we were too like just goes to show you you can you can don't worry about where you're at you can always make

it cuz like dude I didn't stuff that I should have figured out in a day took me like weeks to figure out this is when Facebook ads were more beginner friendly you did Drop Shipping right I've tried literally everything okay your partner did Drop Shipping though cuz I've Watched his videos yes um and we're going there and it's like you know Facebook ads were like way easier like we figured out how to do this um semi-quick went through some products whatever stumbled on these color changing swimwear product the swimwear product and we put up some

ads and it gets some sales I remember the first day I got some sales bro I I've never I think it'll be hard to top those kind of days you it doesn't Feel real you know the only regret I have dude is not document any more of that [ __ ] yeah corosi always talks about that he's like you're always going to regret you didn't document more um I'm trying to get better with that and I'm was oh my God we're going to get [ __ ] Rich Evan we're going to do this [ __

] we're going to take over the [ __ ] world um yeah didn't not happen like we thought it was but um we we start to figure stuff out we're not making any Money of course Drop Shipping is hard bro um but this is the start of everything now now I'm going to really get into how this leads into Creator corner is we're like okay letes just show you how stupid we were too we're like oh I bet you it'll make uh our ads convert better if we have like socials for our brand you know

and so we're like okay I should probably start posting this stuff on like you know Instagram and Tik Tok and like show that like you Know what if someone looks us up from the ad you know and like they need to see that we're legit we're so dumb bro no no concept of consumer psychology but you know things come unexpected I get the this uh this product and I start filming Tik toks literally just like I said just to show that we're a brand like I didn't care if we get one viewer whatever first time

I get these shorts I pour some water on them for a video put a sound behind it whatever 1.5 million views you know and sales didn't even really come from it because we didn't even know how to make a site the link was broken all this kind of stuff but I was like whoa like fact that we got two sales from this we didn't even have to put ad spend in this 2020 there was no brands on Tik Tok bro like this just there was no one to compare to they didn't it didn't even exist

and I remember Scott Hil saying something too like he's like you know I'm going to Tell you some stuff that worked for me but chances are you're going to find some sauce here and make your own recipe with a piece of everything you see and something unique you added I was like this is it and it's crazy cuz it is that's like L what happened we end up just second video I post 1.5 million views and it's the start of this just massive you know like run in my whole career has become Tik Tok since

then um and I had a natural kind of like inclin Into doing this like I knew how to make Tik toks I was a big fan of Tik Tok um in high school I got I went viral for playing a prank on my teacher um stuff like that um so like I knew how to do it and I was like oh my God you know this is crazy this is back still when Tik Tok was like um like if you were posting on there like people were making fun of you you know this is not

like Tik Tok like kind of cool now you know yeah it was with people dancing basically yeah it Was it was that time um exactly people dancing no [ __ ] products dude there's no products and I was like oh my God we have something we have something we're getting sales now people are asking about bikinis and we're like oh my God we got to make bikinis we get bikinis made I don't know how we figure out how to make custom bikinis with like 100q I don't even know we did it um and I actually

we weren't even making enough Money I was just journaling saying I'm going to make $10,000 profit for the end of the summer ends I'm going to make $10,000 profit for the end of the summer ends did not look like we're going to do that you know we had just started in like April May of 2020 it's coming around August and I'm actually going to go back to school I'm on the way driving back to school and I'm like yeah whatever here's there but the bikinis came in the day before this whole on my YouTube even

more in depth but um I post this [ __ ] and we do 35k in a day the bikinis went berserk okay like this video gets six million views goes just bananas dude um selling like hot cakes I'd never seen any it was years later till I seen someone like like figure out the organic thing and it was the birth of my Creator Journey right me and Evan just making videos um and I I I was doing them all with my two hands and this is where I learned everything okay We do 500 million views

we had a million followers on this account chameleon swim um and we we we go through all these lows and highs and lows and highs some sixf figureure Revenue months not profit big difference um you know when I talked about those numbers earlier like I I'm always going to talk in profit or disclaim that um and we end up doing seven figures in sales on this over the next year or two um and it was it changed my life bro Like it was the best thing that ever happened to me Tik Tok was my bread

and butter that was all I really focused on that was my thing I get on Twitter start talking about it that was kind of the birth of Tik Tock organic 2021 2022 you remember that yeah of course that's when ugc comes around and it was just insane um I go through the this tur turbulence with my uh chameleon swim I thought it was going to be a millionaire selling it brand dies I make pennies off it but I Had some money like I had like 100 200 Grand in my to to my name you know

I think it was like by the end of chameleon swim I had like 100 Grand to my name and I was like I'm not broke I'm very grateful my college self would be hyped but I [ __ ] up though you know I was like there's something like I should have like this this shouldn't have ended like I did 500 million views bro what happened it's just that like I was a dumbass brand owner like running this Product so so tied to it and all this stuff and like I'm seeing I had a little Community

called the collective um where it was just like most it was 50 bucks a month whatever it still exists actually it's called yfd it's on [ __ ] shut out [ __ ] but uh you know I'm and and people are were obviously using our teachings for Drop Shipping all stuff I'm like dude this this model just feels off bro yeah and this is this is really where it starts to come together I'm like this Model just feels off 500 million views 100 Grand to my name of course I made hell mistakes but I even

know people and I'm sure you know people like this in Ecom that like I've seen people go into debt from this and like oh yeah you know and and I've seen obviously a few people just absolutely stand out and whatever not really as much in Drop Shipping compared to like brand owning or something like Rob I was like what's going on dude like there's there's Somethingone else to this and this is kind of the birth of um ugc and like creators and I I start an agency I'm done with the brand I'm like you know

what let me offer these Services you know I might as well do some Consulting and stuff like that and we'll see where it goes and it just made so much [ __ ] sense dude no one was doing this everyone was trying to launch a ugc agency but they were doing ugc not this kind of thing of like uh actually having You know 10 creators go onto a brand and make content for them like 10 of me you know I I will absolutely give flowers where it's due you know that that space like Bro you've

seen this this is crazy you know it's like it it was it was the talk of the internet right and I was like dude everybody's still talking about Drop Shipping and owning the brand and this and that I'm like dude being a Creator is [ __ ] epic I had two kids under me that were trying to do drop sh For like six months a year made no money they come on to creating first month 10K each you know with no shop no anything I was like you know I didn't even know shop was going

to come around one day I just need to do this shout out Sydney and Z my two uh my two creators that were with me from day one I'm like I watched their lives change cuz that was profit when I talk 10K I'm not talking 10K on a Shopify dashboard I'm talking 10K in their Bank what like is an Affiliate deal like a base retainer for to do the videos and then their videos blew up got hell of sales track through a link and then they got those commissions 10K right before Tik Tok shop just

straight up before Tik Tok Shop link bio okay linkoln bio like uh one of those like a l filate platforms I was like bro this is this is lifechanging this is it this is it cuz like I'm in the game of like and then and then in turn these Brands make money All this kind of stuff now here was the problem I was running the model where I was charging the brands and I just realized it's slim pickings dude it's like okay the brand gives me 10K mhm and then I got to go get six

seven creators under give them whatever 7,000 of that 10K I take like a little little cut there this don't make no [ __ ] sense dude I'm not you know I'm not here for 3K you know and it's a good amount of work I got to Teach them a bunch of [ __ ] people yeah uhuh and they can only do a few products um cuz I know as a Creator you're you're creative activities everything I'm like I'm not incentivized to to like sit there and and teach them every little thing I'm not scripting videos

I'm like something's up with that and I was in this weird standstill where my income was here I was making like 20K a month this when I was living in Scottsdale um this agency would get good results for Clients um not unreal but good I had these few creators making money I had all these pieces my income was here but my like knowledge and and all that was like up here I was like [ __ ] dude I sit there than thinking thinking for for like a month dude and I like just asked at that

time I didn't have a relationship with God but you know just the universe like help me figure out this problem you know and one day I literally wake up and I'm like dude I Know what it is I know what I need to do no one's doing this [ __ ] yet I need to like it it's it starts with the creators and that's why I corrected you earlier about the brand thing it always starts with like it started with them and I go dude no more Brands no more Brands I'm I'm I'm focus on

these creators last client I ever took though Rob the [ __ ] bank last client I ever took and there's something so so special about that um and I was like you know what and And he was he's he trusted me more than anyone else did um and was like a big piece of this and I told him what I was trying to do and he's like I think you should absolutely do that we were already doing well for him um he's like you should absolutely do that and in fact I'm will back you up

on whatever you need for that bro like this is the future and you got to run this basically the idea was Creator corner I didn't have a name yet my my partner is Ken Luca on creators Corner a lot of people don't know about them either um they ran the other Drop Shipping Discord with me they also have done hundreds of millions of views um even they were like I don't know like sounds a little you think people my biggest objection at first was people didn't want to feel like Freelancers they they were like oh

well I don't want a job I want to be an entrepreneur isn't a freelancer like a job um and I was like no [ __ ] that you Know if you're making 10K a month 20K a month you'll realize really quickly this is the best thing ever you know I was like guys don't worry about it and they're like all right all right so I'm like just let's just try it like I don't want to do Drop Shipping coaching I don't want to run this agency I don't want to do like let's let's let's do

this and all right let's do it we launch creators Corner um basically teaching creators how to make viral content and Make money from it and be Affiliates for Brands you know because I was like I now I have incentive to teach these people I have uh you know I'll have a talent pool to pick from I got this brand owner who's going to give me the first you know kind of foundation of all this with trust I'm going to get everybody paid I've done all the models for my agency I know the lessons of what

works what doesn't I knew retainers were going to be a big piece no one was doing that yet Not even close of like the retainer plus affiliate thing so then they show up do the videos you can guarantee because Affiliates you don't control right they can do their own thing and they all crash out on you um I was like we're going to do retainers plus this affiliate Rob's going to like help us out get the first people on retainer and we're going to [ __ ] crush it for him and if not whatever but

like we need to do this we launched it the first 2030 Sales calls Luca luuka was doing the sales Cal was like the main coach and then I was just like the head of like everything um so I've always had the majority and the first 20 sales calls bro Luca's like taking him with his shirt off like we're like we we we had built up a lot of Goodwill I've I've made it this far like largely off Goodwill and like trying to be the best I can um and it definitely was like a big piece

of star in this first 20 sales Calls we literally just go bro just trust us you know well I I think this is going to work and if it doesn't we'll give you your money back promise you that like I stand on that I hate how people are in the co coaching and courses space I will own on T Toes that I sell a course and coaching program it's there's still such a stigma around it though I was like I'm going to be different I'm going to be [ __ ] through this my deeper meaning

is that I'm going To be different I'm going to be my mother's son through this I'm going to live on and like you know never have someone say that they got scammed or had a bad time and I'm going to make all these people money we're going to figure it out by any means close the calendar after that started with these and bro it worked and you know it started with with topshelf uh Rob he he put all these guys on retainer um like [ __ ] 50 students I Think or something like that um

and we we went ballistic for him we we we went from 100 200 k a month top shelf to 500 600 you know these are like with with a guy who really knows how to run this business too you know he's the [ __ ] vet I was like oh my God oh my God we have something he he introduced me to some friends we do the same thing for them hits again you know within a two weeks I had my first 10K student which is like you know not what a lot of Courses and

[ __ ] can say and we just kept going up and up and up from there just focusing on my my students and my creators first everything comes from there okay so I want to go into this so basically you created an offer for like how much was it at that time it was only 2K too so you're basically charging people $2,000 to join your group creators corner and inside Creator Corner You' basically teach them how to make content for Brands so like you're Going through like what good hooks are what good content formats are

how to do a call to action how to add like how to make an account how to add an affiliate link to your bio just like a pretty straightforward course and then you're just like hopping on weekly calls with them to like more way more than weekly you know like I'm um and still to this day like I'm super active in everything you know like how' you get the first 20 people in there how'd you know them How'd you find them um the collective and Twitter I had I had a decent sized Twitter following and

I you know even at that time I could explain why it was likely going to work you know and I had a I had a pretty solid reputation you know how how like how many people do you have on Twitter um at that time I don't even know maybe 20,000 yeah so 20,000 people you just like made some tweets saying I'm going to there a way to make money be a Creator and I'll show you how I did it basically yeah I kind of have this like kind of like I guess you call it God

gifted ability though to like people just find me bro the right people always find me somehow and like I just do my best to help them and I hopped on a sales call you told them what was going down like we think there's a big opportunity if you just learn how to make content like me work with the brand what are the retainers looking like how much is a retainer dude so so here Here's a big piece of this right this was this was I knew going to shake the [ __ ] game because um

we do retainers they're they're nothing crazy bro like nothing still to this day they're about the same what we started at they range anywhere from as low as 300 for 30 videos like basically nothing dude all the way up to you know 2 3,000 right depending on experience level very important bro CU I was like dude if I can figure out a way that the second you Get through it and and join my [ __ ] and get through the course which can happen in a day and get to this you can start making money

literally doesn't matter if you're a total beginner you'll get the retainer you know you'll get paid $300 and I'm like dude that can change somebody's life $300 retainer so how long is the course um probably 8 10 hours it's pretty yeah so if they watch that so they watch that you instantly give them a retainer or how do you like Check if they're like actually like back in the day dude we we were I'm I'm a I'm not like a super systems organized kind of dude you know uh dude I prom I honestly have a

feeling I'm significantly worse than you just just seeing how you did the calendar invite with the address and [ __ ] I was like damn I'm fancy huh I learned that here I mean look at look at this it's gorgeous dude um yeah I was like back then I think honestly we wouldn't even check People got through the course and [ __ ] um but yeah now it's like you go through the course you have to do a test when you think about businesses growing their sales Beyond forecast like Mattel sure you think about a

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what like big companies should be doing like for themselves internally at the end of day so like I really want to go explain it or understand it it's almost impossible though I've only seen it on the outside so I want to I I can really dig in so I'm curious so you have a vssl now just a 10-minute video explaining like be a Creator Creator's Corner we're going basically you're promising we're going to teach you how to be a Creator and Then we'll place you with the brand so like you're it's like the new College

like the re the reason you go to college is to get a degree gain a skill set and then get a job it's like a job placement like offer yeah so but you're actually training them and then you're helping them get their job so they're getting a degree at crater's corner and then you're literally placing them with a retain University straight up it should be called that it's super smart I think This is how all education will work in the gig economy in the future so how do people right now like how are you actually

getting let's just go through your program first okay what are you actually teaching them what are the tangible skills to be a good Creator so first things first and this is actually going to be a piece of of stuff that you know I'm not I don't even care to like this is some sauce okay this some [ __ ] sauce but we're here for uhhuh Yeah like it's like we're we're so far established like I don't even care you know like I think early on I would have been a gatekeeping this [ __ ] but

uh you know first things first dude I'm a big energy I'm very passionate I think you can tell you know like I'm very like I love what I do and you know I'm going to be myself and one thing that brought me so far like I was explaining to you was like mindset dude I had the worst mindset dude like I like scared you know Imagine like bro my mom was a teacher we're living on a a teacher salary like we had money problems my dad got hit really hard in the 200 thing likeo my

money trauma was deep right and um I knew that mindset and I was so insecure and all the sorts of stuff and that that matters dude it's yeah you know you got to you got to you got to really like work on yourself before you can work on anything else in my opinion well um and I was like you know what deeper than all This dude like call it Tik Tok Creator training like I'm going to do Life Training you know and on top of this so the first since day one bro the First videos

have always been mindset and specifically journaling I I'm like dude before I can I can build you up as what a Creator and in this person I need you to kind of break down these old beliefs right because I still to this day almost entirely only work with total beginners Almost almost entirely not always sometimes people come in goated and we just give them more opportunities and they help us and whatever but I'm like I got to break you down to rebuild you you know that's what a real Mentor would do you know so I

talked about journaling I talked about you know like really doing the right thing even when no one's looking shout out Julie Williams my mom realest to ever do it she always taught me that [ __ ] um and has taken me so far Talk about you know um trus in yourself all this kind of [ __ ] right little mindset [ __ ] um and the journaling thing has been massive everyone's journaling I'm going to be a 10K Creator I'm going to be this that this that and my results from that are stupid I genuinely

ask people all the time what do you think the results would be in Creator's corner cuz we can talk numbers bro I I got some unicorn numbers for you when you when you want them you know 200 50 kids that Have made six figures in 204 it's [ __ ] like that like crazy sh so you made 250 people over $100,000 okay actually I don't know ex like dude some of them in in 25 did it in a month um 25 people made $100,000 in a month bro on on everything I've ever loved swear to

God in 2024 and that's like money in the pocket like affiliate profit profit highest was like 225 or something wow you know Silly number how many of you made Millions uh I know of three who Made Seven figures in a year uhhuh as a El creators bro that's crazy you know talk about if you think it's a job still like I said that was number one objection it's a [ __ ] damn good job but it's not you know it's not a job it's it's deeper but um 250 made over 10K in a month and

I know that because I shipped all of them plaques for it um and so I can tell you that and almost all of them consistently did it so I wouldn't be surprised if it was about Probably 200 made six figures somewhere there there's also ones that didn't report all that but I mean for how fast it happened too it's incredible exactly in the start of the year we barely had shop too I do some of like 50 of those I bet were not even on shop to this day I I still do stuff on other

platforms for international people all sorts of stuff right um but with that this journaling stuff we talked about I bet you 50% of that if not 80 wouldn't have come Without this journaling and mindset stuff you think that's more of like a spiritual like that's the operating system needed to succeed like put it into the universe type of thing 100% are you like working out like what beliefs are you working out of people um fear scarcity doubt all sorts of stuff like that um and more importantly like train your brain to be focused on the

right things you know and and when you when you put those out there I'm not a big Believer in whoopy wahwah of of you know manifesting just you write it and it just happens like you have to work towards it and all that but you're hearing CC with me bro like if you listen we'll do it m we'll do it I know how to do this [ __ ] and you know so it's more just the focus of it and your brain starts working it back bro it's like setting the goal focused being inal go

and goals tell you where you want to be and your brain will Figure it out you act like you already have it and speak it with gratitude this a very specific way I journal and you do it exactly like that it will [ __ ] happen so speak in present tense like it's already here I'm so grateful that uh I I got to share my story on the Brett on the Brett podcast you know stuff like that before it happens and somehow it'll [ __ ] happen you know I don't do dates anymore too so

but I just want to say one of my big things dude And a lot of people know me for this is I'm like a very uh big believer in giving and gifts and stuff like that and just like you know living in abundance and I think you're someone that doesn't get enough praise for all the stuff you do for people you know there's no payments come on this podcast you come on here and chill and you you actually care about this story I can tell tell you want to be here and so I was like

very adamant I was like I need to get This dude a cool gift no way um so I just want to I just want to stop and give you this for a second oh heck yeah dude you're the first one to ever give me a gift that's fantastic go I didn't know if I was the first or not but I knew I was going to be one of them cuz I was like it's just you have a you have a job that like people don't you do it so effortlessly people don't realize you know how

important it is so we'll see what you think of it I appreciate it Even the words are super nice um so this is a a custom Journal fire with laser engraved with your logo and your name right here is it malanowski yeah malow so little Journal if you ever wanted a journal and then teach me how to use this um but we got mik's going down and then uh a Little M Block pen to go with it I don't know if you have one of these those are great though no I was just looking at

pins the other with my Girlfriend nice so okay teach me how to use this bro well it's it's bro you can do whatever you want with it really but uh nice bro I like the weight to it yeah you're already killing man you don't need anything but um it's a thought bro I've actually like everything you're saying with like beliefs and like speaking in present tense is something I've like really actively taken on a relationship with God like last year and half like brand new for me I can't wait Talk ironically like You' think that

this is something they'd prioritize in your younger years but for some reason never came through till 26 so same thing I so I would actually like to go deep on like how you recommend journaling I think the present tent stuff is super important yeah so I just threw a a journal in there too like it the class was kind of like [ __ ] up whatever but you can throw whatever Journal you want in there I know fire this will work I Need one of these you know that's it'll last forever too with the the

logo and stuff like that so what is this uh some other pen I couldn't fit the m one in there so I like the you know get another journal and throw it in there too and and whatever but this beautiful bro I really appreciate it you really you really deserve it thank you so much thank you and actually for the kind words that means a lot no one's ever gone out of the way to say that so Genuinely means a lot it's the least I can do man um and uh yeah so the journaling stuff

is like is it's it's all this bro it makes you a better person it makes you you know fulfilled you know um I'm I wouldn't say I'm fully there but I'm close to you know just cuz I don't believe in Perfection um and I've just seen this dud like it's amazing these stories that come out of my group you know when people pay me money bro like I'm very proud of the Fact that I'm not a bad apple I will say I got a DM today okay from people in your group wow and that's the

first thing they said they were very focused on like the belief changing hey Brett I Believe Jimmy is going to be on your podcast tomorrow I wanted to let you know that Jimmy has changed my life and so many others not only financially but with the mindset of abundance and not living in scarcity spiritually Etc and all the amazing people in crater's Corner it goes on for like a little longer but like that was open and watch this dude you know this one thing I say like I I I remember damn near every single person's

name their story stuff like that like what okay was it was it kristos I don't know let's see Matt zanth zanth zanth yep yep I'm it's like I can just tell you like random fact like I'm in his profile picture you know it's like [ __ ] I Remember of stuff like that you know that's good bro um kid's kid I think just made a 25 k a month profit really mhm what okay what is he promoting what is he doing can you explain what he does like so yeah so I'll get back to the

core stuff but dude that shit's awesome you know see like that I've never had that happen either so [ __ ] I love that kind of stuff dude um just cuz I wanted to inspire people I don't want to be the only one but I do I love the idea of of People being inspired by this I just regardless if this gets 10 views or a million I hope people just get inspired by this to like you know live like their mom's watching or whoever right um cuz it just I love the way things are

are shifting um that [ __ ] is amazing there uh so from there you know you get past there now one one thing that people forget bro is that I actually know what the [ __ ] I'm talking about very in depth you know and It's like it's like I I have been doing this for so long I'm obviously not a Creator anymore but I've just seen more data than anyone doing this four and a half years I've not done anything else in my career and and I have not like you know crashed out on

crypto and you know done like all you know how people shift like I've nothing wrong with that but I there's there's a reason I know what I'm talking about and people it's hard for people to replicate um so from there It's just straight you know going through case studies talking about you know ways of making viral content that also converts you know I talk about um the baselines of of viral content is also always going to be emotion sparking you make someone feels something you know no one understands the Tik Tok algorithm all we know

is that if you make content people want to watch watch it usually ends up somewhere you want it to be um all this kind of Stuff I'm very objective with my stuff very my mom was a teacher dude so like I do also like love to teach you know I I have a you know I don't I want to like praise myself but like I do feel like I have god- gifted ability to teach people it's a skill and it's like actually like a thing that you like people some people have it some people don't

you you like to teach and you're good at teaching therefore you should be a teacher and You know what you're talking about too right you know it's like and you've done it yeah um all all those you know it's is all culmination that's why I wanted to explain my story before so it makes sense coming up to this so go through all that you know we have uh then I have people my partners coaches creators that make videos in there we talk about you know uh business practices like how to work with these Brands what

to do your Next steps from there all this stuff you know it's hours and hours of [ __ ] um and so basically they go through that they learn they make a little video that my coaches review stuff like that and then from there we connect you with Brands right so we have a job board you post your stuff uh I have all these managers so I have just about 20 managers who are kind of like leveled up creators um shout out my first ones ever Sant and Xander to youngins um Xander's 19 bro making

crazy bread um and basically they were all former creators and students and um I I basically saw like characteris istics of like me running the agency uh what what what to look for so that's like people who are organizationally pretty solid they don't miss post they're consistent right because a lot of like creative people tend not to be the best managers because it's too uh reformed right like Ultra Creative like I call it there's creative crash out like right brain people and then there's like uh I think it's I think that's what it is Left

Brain people are like the Brute Force always going to show up always going to outwork people whatever right um and so I just like carefully curated this gave it a shot of having them cuz before when when I first started with top shelf and stuff I would Loosely manage it and it would kind of just be a free-for-all we'd make These little mini brand discords like top shelf Discord the creators would join it and you know they'd keep up with posts the brand would be in there blah blah blah and and it worked like but

it just wasn't dialed when I got these managers in there so they post the job boards they make the mini Discord they make a Content brief they do content review calls specific to the brand they communicate with the brand can someone please invent a crystal ball until then Over 40,000 businesses have future prooof their business with net Suite by Oracle the number one Cloud Erp bringing accounting financial management inventory and HR into one fluid platform with one unified business management Suite there's one source of Truth giving you the visibility and control you need to make

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so youve trained creators you Breeze through what they're taught I'm going to circle back and ask you more there but this is the magic that's happening so you train the creators join creators Corner if you actually want to learn how then once they're actually qualified creators they passed your test there's a job Board of basically all the different brands that you're partnered with and these are like different Ecom Brands like supplements What are they like supplements e whatever so we do a lot in um supplements in health um and you know Rob taught me what

to look for there too like I'm just just God brought me to Rob like that's my long lost brother um with what to like it's very important cuz obviously like people hear supplements and they're like oh you sell it's like d I'm in all these bad apple spaces bro it's like oh you sell it's like oh so so you're a scammer Snake oil salesman I'm like God damn dude but uh here's why here's why we largely do supplements bro is because uh the big a big problem in Drop Shipping and all that stuff was uh

the product quality yeah you know the the the pillars of conversions I talked about the six pillars of conversions the first one is product you know at the end of the day people have to want your [ __ ] and people used to go viral all the time for people things didn't want you know People didn't want that [ __ ] like I there's some funny ones of like uh the the United States ice cube tray bro this [ __ ] got like probably 30 million views and like nobody bought that [ __ ] yeah

no you know viral but not yeah a real problem uhuh it was viral cuz how stupid it was um you know it doesn't solve a problem doesn't really add any value to anyone's life and supplements are are so amazing because like okay chameleon swim was a very viral product that people Like wanted you know it was like a very clear problem you know it wasn't even a problem dude it's just a value ad you know it it's cool you know it's viral and whatever you know very visual you pour the water on it changes colors

you know it had some controversy to it which was like a concept I I coined early of like for virality people used to take too far and [ __ ] but like that's a whole another thing um you know people would ask what happens if you pee bro you know That [ __ ] used to get so many viral comments it was insane um and I was like whoa okay you know the problem is then from there I realized that virality is inherently not forever virality would not be there if it was infinite it's finite

um so you have to be able to shift and the problem is when you have these products they they come and die because you can't you you can't really iterate off them the best ones that last the longest you're able to iterate off Um and so you know I was like you know always look through different niches you kind of just basically tell people viral product look for viral product sell viral products um but there was no super strong Niche there's other stuff that's good like uh weed products like related accessories would go crazy sports

stuff Electronics right um but dude supplements are amazing because every time pretty much they're going to Solve a problem or ad value someone's life every time they will every time and if you find good ones they have repeat orders and and and we'll get positive reviews and positive comments and people have a lot of questions around it which is great for virality and engagement and stuff like that um and then the best part of all bro is that you can make like there's like infinite you know you can all there's all these iterations so a

big part bro was of of all this stuff Working out as well as it did I'm not going to lie is like the preparation I had there like I knew like if you're just some some grifter who's trying to jump on the space cuz it's hot which is unfortunately like a huge thing still to this day um you're never going to get stuff and that's why a lot of times their products are terrible bro I'm talking like they're like courses coaching all you don't know that [ __ ] they's like they don't know why they're

Doing it anything like that and that was a huge win for us so we used to largely do health related supplements and health related products like from anywhere to you know legit like ashwaganda gummies and you know testosterone boosting supplements to help like uh no no [ __ ] ingredient gum um beef Tallow all that kind of stuff right cuz you can do this Ed you can do this educational style there's so many different types of videos you can make every it's a Playbook yeah yeah it's a huge Tam and it solves a very clear

problem with a very clear outcome like you don't have to market the ingredience even though it can be a part of it but like you're really marketing like a clear like get clear skin lose weight like very clear outcomes yeah and and and there's usually something for everybody too bro exactly CU like not everybody's going to be into it and that makes a lot of sense you know it really does so then so then You have a job Board of different you just typically work with supplements like that's a your go to health related product

health related products so then you're finding creators you're building up creators then you have these businesses that I'm sure you do you have equity in some of them I assume you yeah so you and Rob like partnered you have equity in some of these businesses you also probably some sort of like cut if the creators make a sale I assume and so You want to know something crazy too dude and this like I'm I get a lot of joy out of it and thankfully it also makes me money usually long term and whatever but like

ends up being a good business decision I I love doing stuff that people aren't willing to do D I did I still to this day like even with ones we charge and all that like massively undercharge the brand side and don't ever focus on trying to make money there and being obsessed there um even Sometimes like every time you start with me I don't charge because I want to be aligned with the brand I need you to trust my systems um and give that money to my [ __ ] creators because that's what I'm trying

to optimize for so I let my creators and my managers make 90% of that money um and I'll take rips and and stuff like that and get involved when it makes sense well how's the structure work like say I give say I give you 100 Grand or like how does it work like if I'm a brand that comes to you I'm a suppl brand that comes to you and I want all these creators posting my content how does that work um so just to be clear here in in case anyone's watching because this is probably

the most common DM I get to this day I I'm not taking on new clients you know there's you can ask but there's a one in 199 chance that I'm down um if at this point I have all the case studies and everything too like I've probably seen you and if I want to Work with you I'll reach out to you I'm not I have like 4050 clients and I'm probably going to take one or two more all of 2025 okay like I'm here to build with them for sure so cool you Equity you can't

diversify that much yeah yeah um the equity stuff is is interesting too I don't get obsessed over that too to be honest with you um because I'll take like minority rips on ones that I'm involved with launching or whatever like where it's with me and Rob um but I'm Not I'm not obsessed over that dude like a big part of this brand stuff and and the whole reason I'm optimizing and helping people become creators is because that [ __ ] is so hard dude to become a Creator no only be a brand owner oh yeah

yeah you know I have so much commitment to to Rob him and my amazing brand clients what they do and the risk they have to take on and all the pieces they have to put together I could never bro I just wanted to do my Content and I just wanted to like okay so you more view it like just I'm going to help my creators eat like so give give them retainers I need 30 to get a retainer and then give him a good affiliate deal and I'm happy that's that's it and let my manager

[ __ ] do his thing cuz you know or or him or her I have you know 20 of them does a manager get like a retainer as well I assume you know it's a a big thing I I also take pride in I I I let everybody Get upside bro down to my managers they're getting rev shares on that campaign they're getting I'm the last so you cut but you cut a REV share objectively for the deal whe it's not going to you Jimmy but it's cut you are cutting a REV share like these

so so yeah yeah so these Brands will be like when I'm when we've agreed we'll do this all right let's just say like minimum budgets are usually like 15 to 20K they've always Been higher like or I'm sorry like like semi high like that even from day one 10,000 15,000 20,000 I need enough budget for this and like bro I basically asked to like you got to be totally okay with this Burning yeah like this this could go to legit I have no give me 20K a month all you're getting out of this is is

content that's the only guarantee I can give to you good doctor who respects his practice will always tell you there's risk always this is vir this Is organic content they give me that right doesn't even go to me I'm just saying it's like kind of promised budget whatever um and let's say it's a 15K budget um 12K will go directly to a team of 20 to 25 creators mix of all people I also that's a requirement I have it has um we're going to put a ton of beginners on there mid- tier High tier because

it's genuinely what works the best which is the cool part thank god um and then 3K will go to the to the manager for Like a little retainer and then almost every time especially now they will have one to 3% rev share on the stuff they do so is it total affiliate sales rev share MH okay so like if if they drive 100,000 you get 3,000 as the company uh yeah the manager the manager m is there a higher rate or that's all the Rev share you're getting and you're just you don't have to share

if that's yeah no it's it just depends it just really depends like it depends on the product like the margins I'm so close with all them like it depends our relationship all sorts of stuff there man getting 3K plus a rep a very small yeah and every manager does their own kind of thing too you know okay great so then you get a brand client you assign a manager that manager makes a Discord server they in the Discord server they pull creators from Creator Corner people apply people apply then they look for whoever fits the

requirements for this brand which is Pretty much is anybody beginners all look different whatever might be slightly skewed for different brands but y they're in the server once they're in the server what's happening greatness uh you know uh dude the these days these days honestly bro like we NE like almost never miss I'm GNA be honest with you um especially because like dude we work with now I work with like you know brands that it's like damn near impossible to miss like they're already Doing well we're just amplifying it yeah yeah um we had a

lot of Misses early on though but dude it don't matter my Creator getting paid no matter what so but how's the manager like what is going on in the Discord like physically you know they're they're managing people's posts you know they spreadsheet of or making sure they're posting the so the Creator joins This Server I have to like if I don't learn something step by step and see it in my mind I don't get It so they join a Discord server and when they're in there what are they seeing so they know what type of

content to make and then are they where are they posting this like are they making a new account for this is under their own account like how does that work so you see you see everything up to this point right and now so now they're in this this is kind of they've they've gone through the training now it's time to in The ring TR they've applied they're in yeah and so every Creator 2 is going to take on two to three okay two to four somewhere in there um clients someone who knows their [ __

] will always do that too a a noob would say take as money as you want retainer Farm no creativity is important you know we're trying to go viral is where you really make the money one one of my famous lines is uh retainers pay the rent commissions by the stakes you know you're like that's Just there for fun so they're they're in here they're they're getting set up so the manager will pick through that list of people who apply they'll reach out to the to the Creator on Discord um and be like all right

we can give you this retainer based on your experience your portfolio all that kind of stuff right um and you want to join they you know if they apply they probably do they join this Discord server when they join the Discord server imagine it's like a CC 2.0 okay you know where it's almost like you now have to kind of redo a little mini onboarding to make sure everything goes correct so you know they're going to get like brief on that brief they're going to tell them which is almost the same every time of what

to set up the accounts as we're making all like affiliate accounts and we're not trying to make bretts and jimmies famous we're trying to make products famous so you can stay behind the scenes on a lot of This stuff right um and that's that's important so the counts are like top shelf yeah actually yeah that's how they started largely but uh now now it's like more like just random [ __ ] you know it'll be like like a theme page Wellness stuff or whatever it isal tips one uh and sometimes people will actually mix products

on the same account you know especially with Tik Tok shop um but yeah largely though it's basically that you know whether you're Going to make an account or use one like we're going to let's set that up figure it out and then you're going to report it to us you know you're going to go through these basic every single time checklist right of that and um we're agreeing to 30 posts roughly over the next 30 days I know people get sick have whatever but roughly that's what you're going to do one post post a day

and then after you finish that you'll get your retainer before I used to pay him up Front but BR the crash outs were just o d yeah you know people just that's always going to be something it's hard to stti consistent everyone's oh I only have to do one post a day sounds like it's nothing until you do it bro um and I get that but we have to pay at the end and so you finish them though you're getting it so it's great and so they're going to get your info all that kind of

stuff and then after you get that and they're going to still like uh in this Brief right you're not seeing anything in this Discord till you see the brief they might have a loom on like content that they think will do well based on other things because these managers were creators um they're going to give you styles of post that like you should do they're going to tell you claims and stuff that are okay and not okay because one thing in this health space that is never something I encourage um is like people talking super

crazy Blasphemous Claims and stuff like that you know oh this this product you know whatever changed my life when it's like bro all it did was was maybe low lower your cortisol levels or whatever it is right and people still do that to this day I just want to you know publicly say that's not something I ever encourage because you don't have to do that to make money yeah you can just tell talk about your personal experience and that's basically the basis of everything Just got to know the guidelines yeah right so Goa they get

that right um and now now you do that you're into the ring and so that's going to be you know access to a community chats where the manager is in there um everybody's in there sharing okay I'm I'm going through this whatever every manager has their own sauce too you know I let these all my managers do their own [ __ ] thing you know I'm a big believer in that um and you know they they have posting Channels where you share it WIS channels um like morale yeah then then they do like review calls

stuff like that and they're the bridge to the brand owner because they understand the Creator they understand me because you know they're directly taught by me um and then they can communicate to the brand own because I've taught them and they've learned over time how to do it properly and so they bridge that and make it a very seamless easy thing for the creators the Creators are posting the manager watching making sure they're finishing it also relying on the Creator to communicate heavily you know um because they're they're also providing a little service to them

and blah blah blah and then that's it so it's like just a little Community where you're talking to the creators that have onboarded teaching them and showing them content that's worked they start posting they can come on review calls with the Manager they have a little success Channel they can talk to the manager anytime they can talk to each other just like literally a dedicated Community to like make everybody successful as quickly as possible yeah it's like a uh CRM like it's a little like like in agency communist Communication Center for this mini agency which

is the manager I basically let all the managers have their own little mini agency and I'm the supplier and overseer how do you Decide are there any like sort of like competitions or like reward and incentives like if you hit 500,000 views you get a bonus is it like if you're the most Feud Creator in this community this month you get a Corvette I'm just getting crazy here but like yeah all sorts of [ __ ] dude and this is why it depends on the brand of payments and setup all all the time you know

it's like it depends what they're doing for my creators what my manager is doing for Them and stuff like that all sorts of [ __ ] goes on dude um the thing is with Tik Tok shop dude and and so are we caught up to speed on on we get the like kind of funnel of like a student experience right um and from there it's like now it's like what what I think what you're kind of getting out is like what's what makes campaigns do well um and what's it look like when it does well

right that kind of stuff maybe um so on shop dude when shop came Around that [ __ ] that [ __ ] made change so many lives people aren't AR aren't ready for that combo um um and you know shout out Sydney Garcia this was like a all this stuff the same way creators Corner was a culmination of like all my skills coming together for this like community that is crushing Tik Tok shop was that right it was like dude imagine I think we had I want to say it was like 20 30 people out

of I don't even know how many um that were at 10K months Before shop when shop came around and I was like oh [ __ ] this solved a huge problem tracking you know this stuff dude tracking is is impossible for [ __ ] like Amazon and websites at the end of the day people are going to search that [ __ ] up on their own and there you don't have a [ __ ] little GPS on them to figure that out and [ __ ] goes through the cracks and you just kind of had

to eat that as a Creator and it it was okay but shop comes around everything's Native okay this is in like end of 2023 start of 2024 and I'm wary of stuff like that cuz of IG shop that shit's ass cheeks you know that shit's trash what have you bought off IG shop didn't even know it was a thing this is why I really stand on on Tik Tok cares about their product because dude they're like you know what we can capitalize off off you know basically the same thing as ads without having to charge

Brands these things but they're like I I've always Believed this too people want ads people want the ads they want to see though you know and it's kind of wrong to like just be able to like pay to be on someone's thing like unless I feel like that's why most people hate ads yeah there's no feedback if your at is good or not other than like like if you're going to pay to get that many views no matter what where for organic it's like if it's a good piece of content it gets views if it's

product People want it gets views Tik Tok knew people were doing that the same way meta did and instead of charging them they're like all right do it through Tik Tok shop and we'll make an amazing platform d i I knew it was going to be [ __ ] lifechanging I'm always wary of new features I knew it was going to be life-changing when I I went to go buy something on it I go to buy something on it it comes up I click the little the little orange thing right there um and I Go

buy some [ __ ] whatever I put in my address and I oneclick Apple pay shit's on the way it's giving me track and all this there's all these like disclaimers on um you know we we protect the consumer really I was going to ask you do you Market Creator cor like are you running ads to the vssl for anything if you tried to funnel hack me bro you would think I'm make 10K a month I was shocked that's why I saw you a year ago I'm like okay it seems like a Simple vssl to

like a ugc course MH and then I talked to Rob I'm like holy [ __ ] this goes way deeper like I literally never had investigated it's genius millions and it's all just Word of Mouth at this point you're saying pretty much bro like you're not running any paid or ask any successful student in my program um because at the end of the day bro this is one thing you'll never be able to get away from in coaching and stuff like That that I hate to say but is the truth and I will say like

no matter how many times you follow up with them do whatever people are just going to buy it and not use it you know for sure more than half and and they're not even going to be mad about it too they know they did you know um and that's just the case right and maybe they're coming to get to it later which is something like that always makes me happy to see which happens all the time If you're out there and you're in CC and you're in that position just get started bro oh my God

it's never too late you're going to be okay we're not going to kick you out come back you know unless how are they finding it how are they finding it people refer them bro any successful student has probably referred two to I've seen 20 before you have a YouTube channel so you do a little bit of YouTube yeah yeah YouTube organic Twitter organic but you're not doing any Paid ads or anything [ __ ] no why why are you so adamant against that do you do do you have Tik Tok content I assume like organic

Tik Tok a little bit Yeah but not like hundreds of thousands personal brand [ __ ] is different though it's a very different style of content you know and whatever and I just hate that I can't like it's hard to be authentic there dude I'm like careful about how much I'm making stuff too and talking about it because it's uh it can just be All this stuff can be taken so wrong you know I I I love podcasts and stuff due like this and why I'm so appreciative to have this platform here is like I

can show that I'm genuine and the second you join my [ __ ] and talk to me I'm the exact same [ __ ] way I'm not I didn't change a second from walking in this door to when I leave to the driver to my students you know any of that and so like you know it's a little distasteful I think and like disconnects from people Doesn't bring the right people in if I'm out there like hey I'm this I'm this 23-year-old millionaire that liid that flew here on a PJ you want when you ready

to talk kindness stories and you all do that we can do that a crazy [ __ ] like that you know and that does all this stuff I um you know I look like I'd be a a trust fun kid I look like a like I'm young and like it's just almost impossible for this to be what it is and I don't expect people to look into that And it just brings not good [ __ ] um so that's why I'm like d I'm just going to build a great product if I make 20 30k

a month from it or I make hundreds of thousands like I've made then that's great and thankfully shout out to God you know when you when you Proverbs 11:25 he who refreshes will be refreshed and that has just come so abundantly true in my life elaborate what does that mean he who refreshes will be refreshed um you reput you so okay you know yeah So it's like I'm so glad that I could show like you said you got a relationship with God this year man you know regardless of what people believe in you know like

whether it's Allah or they're Jewish or anything bro like I'm not even like religious I'd say same the concept of what people refer to as God I feel like I understand yeah I don't want any anyone to ever feel like not accepted or anything like that you know um but call it the Universe even yeah fact um it's really yourself though you know um giving before for with no expectation of anything back just will bring you like abundantly when you in the times you especially the times you you you feel like you can't or don't

want to will bring so much good into your life bro that's why I'm so glad I got to give you that moment of that just little [ __ ] Jour that means nothing to you it's a deeper meaning dude oh I use it Every day I don't think of you yeah you know and that's like and a very key thing too is like good gifts right I could give you some [ __ ] you don't want bro I could give you Chrome Heart jeans you have no idea what they are never wear them you know

um and it's very like tasteful stuff I've learned to do with that it it has brought me and so that exactly why I don't have to Market all this stuff is because these people who come into my Program I have bro you wouldn't believe how many good people I have in my community bro I I I pinch myself every single day it is I have even robs like you I've never seen anything like this in my entire life all the all my clients are like you know very successful entrepreneurs I've never seen anything like this

I have hundreds of people who I genuinely love appreciate respect trust all this kind of stuff and do so good or Share the exact same principles it's cool man that's very cool it's like it's refreshing I I I don't have coaching and course sellers on here because it's like so people hate it like people do not and I do too bro I just want to make that clear I do too it's like dude I can't imagine a bigger exactly bro I can't imagine my mom ask me what I do and I tell her like oh

I do this thing and she's like oh what do people think of it and I have to like I Have to like maybe like probably not say it like most don't that I get bro like that DM makes me like damn near want to cry that you got right like that I didn't ask anyone to [ __ ] do that shout out zanth bro like that's exactly what I talk about you know being creative with that kind of stuff cuz like who knows that he didn't know it was going to come up on here um

and I tell my mom no like I changed lives dude and like bro people will figure out how To like you know send me a note that I can bring to my mom to tell them that and like my mom's so proud of me and stuff like that like I'm I'm not going to let the tear ducks come up you know like right now but it's like that's amazing I could die right now pretty [ __ ] happy you know that's cool bro do you ever find creators through Tik Tok itself like the back end

of Tik Tok shop I'm very I've never bought I don't I don't have the app so I've never used Tik Tok toop from buyer end or on the seller end on the back end like yeah has the back in a Tik Tok shop anything that you even interact with for your company like with the creators or oh yeah I mean dude like honestly whether you do it in in Creator's corner or not bro um being on a Tik Tok being a Tik Tok shop affiliate is [ __ ] lifechanging and just this Creator short form

so it's a it's a skill you have for life which Is why I'm not afraid of bands too yeah are are the creators just Mak like do they have they get the product sent to them mhm like so if they join like you guys just send them one basically yeah so dude it's like no money to you don't need to go [ __ ] build a store spend on ads you just send them a product and they just have to come up with a new creative way it could be like them talking in bed it

could be like them trying it we amplifying like this mhm Yeah dude there's still a ton of faceless stuff we do interesting yeah what are the type of formats that these like do you have like titles for them yeah oh yeah all sorts of [ __ ] like there's always new ones coming about you know break them down for me bro I'm so curious so like those would I would categorize is like content methods right methods uhhuh like methods come and go um and get p and all that which is why like the course will

rarely be methods It's mostly fundamentals and stuff like that and like how to look for methods and stuff cuz then you're in a constant war of having to patch and update stuff that's that teaching mind you know shout out my mom for giving me um so like the the foundation was that thing I was talking about earlier of like you know uh viral content is is someone in Emotion sparking stuff like that [ __ ] that would be a foundation or fundamental the methods would be [ __ ] Like we have ones like in head

videos story um you know it' be like a you know there might be I'm I'm I'm blanking right now hold on like uh there there's slideshows there's there's Transformations before and after stories there's like Trend Style videos where you you're not even speaking there's an audio there's uh you know these videos where you just show the product and speak over it you don't show your face there's a a laptop method you Know like stuff where you're showing a there's green screen um stitching yeah you know where there's like kind of conspiracy theory style green screens

there's all sorts of [ __ ] we get creative uhhuh and I'm tell bro I'm not going to lie we are it is it is fun to have all these amazing people but it's even more fun to be like genuinely the best in the probably the [ __ ] world of what we do what do you spend your most time doing making sure Creator all I care my whole entire life is Creator corner cuz I built so you're like replying in the Discord chats all the day you're like on coaching calls or what like what

do you mean depends bro it's like I'm here to to put people in positions um to succeed the best whether it's my partners myself students managers um clients anything and solve the highest level you know problems and solutions that I can do how many people join Creator Corner um we only have 150000 still a lot yeah it's not it's not anything crazy um you know like it's not it's not super nuts I'm curious like why do you try to like would you is there a time where you ever like try to scale that to 10K

like in a year like is that like something you'd want to do or is there like a reason you don't go bigger no so like I'll do as many as I can while still uh having as good of a service are better that's that's and so so there's Times bro so you so it's like get slow and steady teach them okay bro I'll close the calendar and like not take on new students find me another core seller coaching program who does the numbers I do and does that on top it's we'll probably never see that

can you share how much you've generated for the businesses that you represent as a whole like bro tracked like gmv which is like basically sales on Tik Tok shop and Amazon and all these things um was over A 100 million last year tracked in one year bro I had you want you want some unicorn numbers yeah bro what the hell um I don't know how many clients I worked with exactly I bet it's probably somewhere around a 100 but current is like probably about 50 okay that we work with um and then we have the

the top like 15 are the biggest right like and do like a large amount of everything um but we had 22 clients uh do seven figures in direct and I when I say the 100 million I mean direct BR I can't even imagine the [ __ ] spill over you know and all that stuff yeah yeah for everyone who did convert through shop and I'm still talking Revenue yeah who knows what the profit is but uh and that's all brand side we're not we ain't worried about that um 22 of our clients did seven figures

directly from us in 2024 16 of them did it in a month you know wow directly from our people bro Over a million dollars in one month and I [ __ ] I forgot how many and I want to say like six did it in the first month oh my God we we had we had one that go did it in in I'm talking from zero Brett they weren't even on shop really yet we had one and this when I knew I was like oh we are this like kind of a like five six months

ago I was like oh we're [ __ ] goated hold on [ __ ] goated um from zero in 15 days to 1.1 million uhuh and like 10day Sprint you know damn 15 15 days from zero like 10 days of really like traction zero to a million have you ever paid these people on like a pay-per-view basis yeah so that's like if you aren't doing on shop there's usually a lot more creative stuff to try and like do our best to help with tracking so like there's a bunch of people that have like it basically

works out to you end up building like instagam theme pages that are largely faceless and slideshows on Tik Tok and stuff like That where you're pushing like Amazon associate links and stuff like that what so you paypereview for that so so yeah the tracking is just harder bro like I said you're not getting Tik Tok shops all Native bro you never you almost never leave the platform um there is spillover but not nearly the same why would you not be on Tik Tok shop it's like it's like a just country based yeah exactly I D

I have a ton of international kids dude I have some I Some demons got out there so then you'll just pay them like 10 cents per view or 50 cents per view depends on the brand view I'll let the brands the managers figure out what's there and like everybody's super Fair um to to the best we can do and we're doing stuff to to help that but it can be it can be views bonuses it could also be it has then you have it gets really nitty-gritty bro it's like us us-based views but the manager

just handles that In a Discord server and it's kind of but yeah those kids can make crazy money you know based on and and sales and how good the content was objectively that's so fascinating clicks clicks is another thing you know stuff like that yeah yeah just every single engagement metric basically we had one bro that uh that we started in in August and it was like our biggest you know success story for a while like there's someone cracking it beating it Now but dude just from August to the end of 20124 we did 9.2

million track for them and the in the next highest group AG agency anything they worked with they were like number one on shop for a while they had 250,000 Affiliates or some [ __ ] um the first month we did it they launched this big giveaway campaign people will know who I'm talking about I just I don't know if they'd want to be named or not they're great clients um they launched this big giveaway campaign Where they're giving away cars and [ __ ] do you remember this they're like if you hit these numbers we're

going to give you [ __ ] cars and [ __ ] they were brand new at Tik Tok that's what how a lot of Affiliates like programs work like OG affiliate stuff like prizes for top 10 that's why I was asking yeah so that makes a lot of sense they brought that principal over Ved bro [ __ ] game everybody had to follow M yeah so they had like 100,000 Affiliates everyone got The same product the same giveaway everything um all the groups got it similar ones to me and they gave out 100,000 free products

no I bet uh like I know for us because it was like timing was so tight I I bet you almost all of it was people getting it on their own like they just bought it just to CU it's in stores and Big Brand it's a big brand um dude we were that first month we were like number one two four five seven and 10 out of 100,000 oh your creators were To damn bro dominated this [ __ ] and that was like one of the biggest wins of my entire like you know thing throughout

this you know God has been just so you did what do you mean you you like were making content no no no I'm saying like this just been the biggest win of my career and my like for my community and everything like that and for creators the number one total beginner made 150,000 that month really between the between the giveaway andent Ines and Commissions I mean he did 250k in gmv what separates like what what are you guys doing so good like what did they do so well like what made them so good I mean

dude there's all the pieces I just explained bro like nobody else has all those together and like that's what it think about all those little pieces makes this like very holistic greatness so every time we we always have a got got a shot at Greatness anywhere we go you know and then dude a big piece honestly I I give so so much credit and I am absolutely not afraid to ever ever praise the [ __ ] out of all my amazing you know creators coaches my team bro they the 4minute mile effect has been unbelievably

real we get 100K student you know a week later we have two more and so they're sharing it with each other so much collaboration D CU you don't take away from each other yeah yeah I know I hated That about Drop Shipping yeah no one you like I run a brand you're like what brand like don't tell you uhuh oh it's it's in the space yeah yeah yeah like shut the [ __ ] up dud you know I get why they do it but like I just all their friends will steal their ads you know

I hate that [ __ ] I hate that [ __ ] um and obviously bro like there's there's aspects of that I I really haven't held anything back here there's aspects of that that I really don't like about Other people in this space that that you know do that to us you know I try to never engage I have before and I regretted it and I feel terrible about doing it because it was just distasteful um I didn't go anything crazy but um you know I just don't stand by any of that Pro I know

that what they do and I like it's just you you not only do the whole thing of coaching and stuff like that and take somebody's money give them a bad experience like a lot of Times or even worse and doubling down on that on top of that is is you know you might tell them that you might make them think that this affiliate stuff that is genuinely as long as you understand what it is and and you think you'll be interested so life-changing you'll tell them it's not and they they might miss out on something

that could have changed their life their family's life their friends life all that kind of stuff [ __ ] that and so that's my goal this year Dude that is my goal and I I I am so glad to speak on it if one person sees it I'm I'm going to start posting more on socials and stuff and doing all this um nothing crazy but all I want my whole basis of everything bro is I really want to bring the good guys back is kind of my line with this you know I think there's this

kind of like it's like rewarding and not enough maybe punishment for for bad guys doing stuff like that I think Karma always works Itself out but I I'm just going to lead by example and be the good guy you know and do my absolute [ __ ] best these transitions have been smooth through all this um this it's a great one for this next piece which has just been so phenomenal is the acts of kindness in my in my group one of the channels in in creators corner is called acts of kindness and I started

this randomly bro a lot of my best things have come from and I'm sure you feel the same way Random experiences bro not random but right right coincidences right um and this is one of them like I I I love doing [ __ ] like when you have a $20 breakfast bill you tip like 80 bucks 100 bucks on it right no one does that [ __ ] you know I wish they would I hate rich people bro who are like stingy you know there's something wrong with you no there actually like if you're like

if you're like a cheap rich person like it's like Yeah I don't get it like I don't get it no well it's money trauma yeah or yeah I wonder if you're like literally you're scared you can never make it again like you just have full on baked into you scarcity yeah well well what are thoughts right they're just habits yeah you know they're just like literally habitual things yeah and then you can rationalize it that it's like smart right and that this this is what got me here [ __ ] you Dave Ramsey you know

[ __ ] You you make $500 million a year bro and and you're like probably calling your phone build how is it $62 now it was 60 you know whatever it is we're we're L you know not actually Dave Ramsey I'm just saying that type the extremes um I hate that [ __ ] dude you know um and I was like that believe it or not bro my a lot of my kids will never believe this [ __ ] um I was at a point you know where I was so stressed you know that you

know that feeling when you make a bad Purchase and your heart sinks you know you think it's a bad purchase it's like [ __ ] bro that the $25 like [ __ ] like you know oh my God and then and then you level up a year later and you're like why the [ __ ] I care about that I'm just going to do that preemptively for the rest of my life no whatever it'll figure itself out and it always does that's abundance right there right scarcity versus abundance um I randomly post about some of

these tips whatever I'm Like oh [ __ ] it if you guys want to do some of this too let's not crowd up the the squad chat let's let's make this acts of kindness Channel and it has just brought some of the most amazing Stories bro and it's so cool because um one thing I was really against too is you know I knew we were going to get [ __ ] results right I knew I was going to get a bunch of these these people Rich um um I I'm really against the and I I

I I wear material these jeans and everything You know doesn't buy you any [ __ ] happiness whatsoever bro you should just do what you enjoy you like cars right what what do you swear John food food okay I go out like I I will go out I like to dance okay that's what's up baby like I don't just go to a table and just like nod my head and look cool like me and my girlfriend are like we're comfortable we're dancing yeah dude I [ __ ] love that I've I've never I would have

never guessed that about you Hell yeah like you like really like like you're talking like fist pump type [ __ ] or are you like salsa dancing and [ __ ] not salsa not like formal okay okay we like rap we like EDM like we just like move like we dance concerts and clubs and stuff exactly [ __ ] yeah that's have fun dude you should own that more no one knows that about you or do you like to keep that lowkey same as you like if I show a story of me popping bottles I'm

just going to be called another YouTube Core seller you know like it's more of a perception thing I like to keep my channel solely I'm here to teach you a point and I don't want to distract it from anything else but I should share more sure um dude I I I feel like this is this is something good though if you don't mind me asking why do you like that cuz like people would say cuz like inherently it's like surface level of like Club spend more money they'll like you More like this kind of stuff

that people will see and it's like you know oh you just want the sign to feel cool and powered right and it's not that I know it's not that for you and I'm just I think I know the answer but I want to hear it it's fun me and my girlfriend like doing it together it's a good way to like get like get out of your shell I'm so serious and like in charge all the time and it's just a good way to just like let go and not think it's it Was learned it was

very hard for me to learn this like it took me till I was 25 to really let myself do that but yeah be present exactly that like cuz that's like if you can if you can just hold that to you you have a aura right you know like it's like people be like why are your jeans $15,000 be I love the story of this like you don't know like you know um it's this that's what I'm into I love fashion those are $15,000 $115,000 jeans they Are what they are yep chome Hearts holy [ __

] dude but bro like I would have never known that bro but I could have a like I I'm not a watch guy though you I have a couple nice watches and you I could have a $200,000 watch on you never know but I always think the people that get into watches it's so bizarre like the theory is that like you wear a watch another guy across the room like knows what watch you're wearing always find that Quite quite little sus little sus yeah yeah dude yeah yeah and and I you know what my problem

is though is just like I have friends that have 20 watches bro and and they only wear two I just don't like that I don't like I don't like buying things that you like will will never ever use and they collect dust that's like kind of useless consumerism you can't be perfect but try to be your best I think is kind of important there I wear all my [ __ ] clothes I'm Wearing this and and someone who knows it bro will have a good conversation and be into the same thing for sure it's a

good way to like like like interest right material will never buy happiness those kind of things will never buy happiness ever bro um and people will think cuz I have $15,000 jeans that I think that and like that I'm insecure and all this kind of stuff it's like you can think what you want bro I like this stuff and what material does bro is it Materializes I've learned you know as someone who grew up with nothing bro like in the way of my life was like had [ __ ] everywhere drove a piece of [

__ ] car na have a Lambo stuff like that is you be you can use material to become who you are you can you can express what you are bro you can express what you like to do and like dude you're like lowkey with your clothes and stuff like that you made that comment earlier about fashion that's who you are bro and if You're not you should I I you know this already but say this like you should do whatever you can to to to get rid of that and be more of who you are

yeah as long as it came from within like as long as you like looked at something you're like I like that and you can't point to like an external reason just like something about it I enjoy yes spend as much as you want on it but if it's like I need to get a Rolex cuz that's what this person on the internet said or like Be very cautious of if your desire for that became yeah from the outside always trust within there's going to be an external piece of it like I there's some of the

reason I I'm so willing to express myself is also because it does get me in rooms with people and I play the part of who I am right which you know understands that like I I love to do what I do um and I have people to inspire bro you know and and I I I have to document at least some of that um and A lot of times I'm just documenting within CC so this is the point I was trying to make with the acts of kindness that's going to be such a key part

and honestly like if this didn't get brought up it didn't get brought up but like I'm glad we can talk about it is like the acts of kindness has been so unbelievable to not causing [ __ ] [ __ ] to come out of my program dude I've seen so many people who make $10,000 they go immediately to their Story Flex on all their Hometown Friends by a bust down you know like Flex on them and I had a good Victory lap right guilty you know it happens and and you know or in they in

they're you making all this money and you still have a bad relationship with your mother or someone who's very important to you in your life or whatever it was [ __ ] that [ __ ] that that ruins everything we just did to get to this point bro and it mistaken like accidentally came about from this acts Of kindness and the biggest Flex that comes brother there's it's like a secret right to passage of your first big success you go through this acts of kindness Channel and you do something ridiculous in it you know I've

I've seen kids you know like uh give give $5,000 to a server you know and like random people and like start a toy drive and raise all this money and and give their save their mom's house and pay off her this and That it's [ __ ] unbelievable I paid for one of my community's chef school like he wanted to go to Chef school 15gs did that wow let's go there's a ton of these random ones I'm not I just spend I just give my money away to people or spend it like Loosely I don't

really think about money I never think about money and you look and and the Very key that you don't expect like you don't expect anything back right I don't like it yeah it's it's very important Bro um and have you not just looked and been like damn I really like never have to worry about money and like I just am not overly attached to money and therefore I I always get it yeah I'm just waking up doing what I would do every day like this is just like straight up fun I got to talk to

cool people work on cool things it's fun bro it's not about the money at all ever yeah except it it's there I'm glad you said that cuz you I felt that and you Kind of confused me on that dude why dude like it's like you know you didn't charge me to be on this podcast unless I miss an inv people charge for be on podcast yes bro that's what is the point of that absolutely like uh I mean I've never paid for one this is the biggest podcast I've ever been on I've only been on

a few small ones shout out Frank you know Frank right um didn't pay to be on his of course you know [ __ ] maybe Frank getting his money with other people I Don't know that's my dog though um but dude there's one ones I know cuz I they'll be like I don't even know you we have no mutuals you're dming me like you want to come on the Pod and then they send you this thing and it's like5 $10,000 to get on it and do this and that I was like I mean that inherently

doesn't work like you have to like have a very clear like the audience has to get something out of the podcast exactly and like learn and so it doesn't matter Like I've seen it clear the older my guest is the less like the podcasts don't do as well because it's less relevant information and so it's like I need to be exactly re relevant information from someone doing it right now and they're willing to actually come on and be an open book and like just give like it's like a free course to the audience like that's

like the only reason I would do it and and you're reward with the eyeballs you're so Passionate about that dude and you know no you like noval raon yeah oh my God changed my lifean flaying was like the the best thing that ever happened to me he's he's phenomenal you know one of the smartest people out there um you know him and Joe Rogan's pod have you watched it that's how I got I'm one of the mainstream Bros that got red pilled by Nal in that episode and that I can't believe we're just meeting bro

like genu yeah bro I've Seen you from afar for a while but but there's a good timing this this there spiritual timing right now I want to have a conversation with you after this as well let's [ __ ] do it that happened right after I invited you I was like huh there's actually another reason he should be here that's cool wow I can't wait bro I can't [ __ ] wait I don't want to hyp it up it'll you know I wore this shirt kind of AC I swear to God did not bring this

to we on this pod And I saw it I was like oh I'm wearing it is you know God answers prayers right here hell yeah bro um and it's fun it's a Gallery department shirt too which is like kind of hilarious through it all uh it's it's probably stems a lot from that you know I'm assuming like the defign there definitely do you have a greater goal like is there something that you're like trying to achieve outside of killing it for your creators right now like is There like something you're work towards dude it's it's

it's my mom really it's my mom you know she's she's my like forever ever ever ever reason why but like there's no like like business move I mean that's a great answer I'm not saying I don't accept the answer fantastic that's a great why but like is there like a uh like are you working towards like like some people want to buy a sports team some people want to like You're just start up doing what you should be doing right now dude total opposite bro I actually want to get 100 million and never work again

and be that guy who who also voices that like it's about abundance not greed right and it's like billionaires I'm like you know it's one thing if you accidentally become a billionaire like you know like lowkey like Mark cubin I think seems to be like a cool billionaire but most of them I'm like bro like you are worth $100 million Or whatever it is $10 billion and you're still like I can tell They Don't Love and Enjoy what they're doing and like sacrifice for it you know and are doing it out of greed and you

know hurting people is like yeah extracting that's like some [ __ ] that's like my like big lifetime goal is to like make a 100 million or whatever it is it could be 50 I don't know what it'll be somewhere in there to get pretty much everything I want out of life fat house whatever and You know do it by somewhere between 30 to 35 and be a dad I want to be a dad I want to be a dad and not going to force it you know like it's awesome you have a girlfriend I

don't have a girlfriend um and I refuse to to settle you know like there's so many amazing girls out there and whatever and like I've just seen too many people get caught in that there's so much insecurity that can get released from it I'm I'm like what do you mean settle you haven't found a good person You mean no no no settle is in like uh basically like lie to yourself and say like like d i I'm totally cool being the like I would love my number one goal in life is to be a dad

bro like genuinely I would love to have a family and make so much money that I can just be present you know and be an amazing husband you know um but it's just it's it's we're talking about like people being very aligned Here and going through [ __ ] and all sorts of stuff and I am totally content being the fun Uncle you know and having no kids and whatever cuz I refuse I'd rather be single than settle you know for bro just Journal about it yeah but dude you can't bring it lie but you

know what's so cool bro and this is some God [ __ ] bro is that you can't Journal about controlling other people bro and you know you'll get caught in yourself you want to know the time I learned this Lesson you know going through a really bad situation with with um basically like relationships whatever is when I was journaling like I want a wife and I want a girlfriend it's a very common thing young men get caught in bro when they make money they're like oh I made all this money like all I need left

basically is to make more money and then get a girl well that's horrible way to think exactly bro cuz you money does nothing do with girls CU you you uh well You get it though it's it's the right intentions they want they're saying the same things as us you want to be a dad you want to be have like a a partner in crime you want to support a woman like whatever it is right yeah my girlfriend just makes me so much better does all the stuff I don't want to do she's so good at

it she's awesome and and I hope she sees this and you tell her that all the time I'll tell her that for the third time today right when I get home So important bro and so the reason I say my mom dude is it's actually a a deeper meaning is i b just say my mom is like like she showed me what unconditional love is she showed me what like being like she's such an angel my mom's the nicest lady ever she stays very lowkey she has like two friends whatever she's not like out there

held it the [ __ ] down from my brother and I on a teacher salary my parents went through a divorce stuff like that um and she held it the [ __ ] down she's my hero and I didn't appreciate her for 14 no sorry way longer like 18 years of my life bro I went through really bad teenage angst and was like kind of a dick to her not like crazy but like yeah d i i a young male ego bro it's The Angst you go through you're dealing with hormones and [ __ ]

like that insecure yeah and like you love them don't know who you are if someone were to ask you say you love them you probably every most guys de With this but like you you can't you don't thank them for everything you don't realize how much they did for you um and some some people's parents aren't aren't that great you know I get that my mom is basically a meaning for I want to I want to do it for good people and I want to bring more good people in it's the same way like a

big thing for me me that I'm hot on right now with acts of kindness is I try to do it for someone that I can tell is somebody's mom or Grandma or something like that cuz I think about like it started this one day I paid for this lady's groceries who at Publix who her card was declining and she like didn't really speak English and I was like oh like please like I got you like say less and all these people saw it and they're like that's somebody's mom and you did that for them and

I was like damn that's deep you know like that's you got you got to be careful these stories bro cuz make your your Tear duck start going I'm not afraid to cry but it takes away from the story um and you know it's so special bro you you know it's so special I'm like damn that's I wanted like whenever I get those and I had a prayer to God bro a really a really great we're almost done here too I'm sorry like if I'm holding this too long I don't give a [ __ ] you

know okay [ __ ] yeah I'm super direct I'll end it super quickly if if I felt that way that's why that's why you have A great pod bro um and people watch your [ __ ] I hope people comment about how great of a host you are too you've let me speak so much on this [ __ ] dude seriously bro hell yeah bro I it feels like I'm glazing you and like whatever I hate that word cuz you should give flowers where they deserve bro like seriously I appreciate it BR we're talk about

this a lot off camera too I don't want to hear that [ __ ] I'm excited um but this is such an important message That like I got inspired by and I want to throw out there is like the the doing it for somebody's mom bro it's like that kind of stuff where you're creative with stuff and give you know need to or give uh help to things that are really needed like and you don't give [ __ ] gifts like I could have given giv you a cardier thing cuz it was expensive whatever and

you would have [ __ ] dust collected forever you know that [ __ ] was like a 100 bucks or whatever you know Like but you'll probably use it hopefully or whatever it is um and the same way like I want to give a gift to someone who needs it and I'll literally pray to God bro literally pray to God in dark times and good times please give me opportunities to show you how much I appreciate what you've done for me and that when you bless me I will treat that with the utmost respect every

[ __ ] level of the way and I had a crazy one this week dude Crazy one where you know this Tik Tok band [ __ ] was insane dude that [ __ ] was insane I felt like like down 31 LeBron bro you know like it was like the face in the face of everyone telling me like you know all this [ __ ] competitors going different places all the [ __ ] I'd hold through it people were looking at you and we made it out you know and it's like we on the Pod

the day after [ __ ] this [ __ ] is an epic story bro that I'm always cherish and I L was like and I Found out on the way to the airport bro that it was like back up that's my emo right there um but I'm like God please please please give me an opportunity make it so [ __ ] clear what I need to do to show you how much I'm this means to me cuz I'm about to go on a generational run from this [ __ ] you know I'm about to make

a [ __ ] bag this year I'm well aware of that you know um and I'm like show me something bro I'm at this airport the the weather Here has been insane insane Alles were canceled on Sunday I just landed too okay really yeah from where Mexico yeah dude they were canceling everything on Sunday were you supposed to fly on Sunday I flew in yeah Sunday like morning okay yeah dude it was right it started just s right when the afternoon got [ __ ] the and so I was a 2:30 flight I'm jsx whatever

cheat code from Miami to here by the way if you ever need to do it cheat code yeah yeah we do Have it in Scottsdale cheat code yes bro Scottsdale to Vegas all the time I'm there I pull the second I pull up bro like I'm get a text saying like your shit's delayed everyone they announce it the second I walk in there and I'm like damn damn okay we we'll see what this goes they didn't say it was that long but it was clear that it wasn't looking good you know they're like weather's getting

worse delayed to later but the weather was going to be worse later and As I'm doing this bro this just so kind so beautiful so special this this Lady Jane goes like just starts talking to me you know you know everyone loves those those older people that just talk bro talk to everybody you know they talk to the janitor like just like oh my God she's like yeah I don't know it looks like yeah it's probably not going to be too good you know I'm going to go grab some food like do you want me

to grab you anything that moment just a random Old lady offered to buy me lunch or whatever that's some that's like somebody's mom mhm that's somebody's Mom that's somebody's grandom whatever it is and she had this little dog with her that was adorable whatever and I was like all right I hope God you going to give me something in here let's let's see what I can do here her husband's walking around like uh even older you know kind of whatever he's like she's like I'm married a Pacer like she's like He loves to pace around

and try and figure out the problems but he's great at it and he he comes back he's like we're not flying there's no way and they're talking about they're going to stay in Fort Lauderdale for two days like [ __ ] this [ __ ] this [ __ ] this [ __ ] this I need to figure this out shot a Hail Mary with this jet guy all this this on socials but it it would never go viral but um I I call a ja guy he closes his jet He's like yeah they'll fly into

Teterboro not white planes where it's getting [ __ ] and and JFK and all that and I think we can do this bro it's like 30 bands 30 bands that's so crazy you know I didn't needan to do I could have flown out Monday for this you know whatever but but but but God answers prayers but God answers prayers wow that was crazy mic dropped but uh dude I end up going on this flight with this this you know I call them my adopted Grandparents now they live bro they live a block away from me

in in Miami have a place here too they dude they were well off too they didn't need this and and I insisted you are not paying a dollar abs and at first she was like no we don't want to come on like it's okay I like don't block my blessing don't block my blessing here I'm going to go regardless and it would be more fun if you came I bring the dog and these two this 80-year-old couple it was like we Knew each other forever the pilot was like what you don't know each other and

what the kids paying like what the is going on here yeah uh and it was like one of the best days of my entire life bro did you talk to him the whole time oh bro we've been emailing back and forth those are my adopted grandparents I'm going to see him again in Miami in February what did they do um dude he was somewhere tired like he was he was a dog bro yeah Yeah he's a dog he had been on pjs before you know so it's not like I'm not going to act like I

like did something like that yeah no but dude he was like I and he'd seen a lot of stuff like important people he had crazy stories bro man a few words Allan was a man few words but they were wise every time they came they were very quiet words too and you kind of go like this and you kind of yes yes yes and they were always very cool but um he said this something like That's never happened of course so he was at an airport flag got cancelled this random lady offered to buy you

lunch flight gets cancelled you're like let's just book a PJ instead you guys can come with me yeah random people and I buy you lunch like you are somebody's grandom yeah and I'm doing this for them you know I'm reminding them like bro it's it's reminding them of good of the world you know they they they're they're well off they're for all I know loaded Um but it doesn't matter how rich you are how poor you are anything everybody values good in the world and so that's the the end of this all really of my

journey this year of see what I can do I want to bring the good guys back I want to bring the good people in this world I want to elevate them as high as I possibly can and you know whether I Elevate from that which I obviously will or not I don't care it's beautiful bro I want to go back to this is the last Thing we can talk about unless there's anything else you want to talk about no that that yeah that was fun thing I want to go back to the journaling thing and

the Bel because that guy that messaged me that's what he out of all the things he could have said he was very emphasizing on the abundance mindset spiritual mental side is that's what stuck with him for him to say that's what he helped you helped him with the most yeah and you mentioned journaling I Feel like I didn't get a clear enough understanding of like how do you delete these beliefs and your journaling process like you said it was present tense this is like the only reason I'm asking because this is actually something I've been

very adamant on as well so I want to go a little more clear for anyone who's like watching this like actually be able to like do this so give me this is the lead magnet of your course right here such a Good [ __ ] question Brett um so so I've done every type of journaling too and like whatever um and I've changed around like but this this is objectively like the best and you can you can make little variations off this I just want to make that clear do what works best for you um

but basically argue you can't really argue against that this is the most effective way to do it and I have [ __ ] data on that too you know um is basically saying these things like You already have them okay so I'm so grateful that I'm you know this is one that I journal for a long time I'm so grateful that I'm a a multi-millionaire or I'm so grateful that I'm a millionaire I'm so grateful that I make six figures a month MH well well well before those things were true well well well but very

key so the Gratitude thing the reason why you do that is that uh gratitude is like the highest feeling you can feel dude you Know it's like gratitude love Enlightenment is like rated the highest on the frequency scales you don't even have to believe in that [ __ ] though to understand like you just feel [ __ ] good um so that's like step one you know and it's you could do like I am rich I am a millionaire but it's not as good as you know grateful you know it's like I am blessed I'm

so happy feel that [ __ ] before it happens cuz now you're in line with that right and that's the whole Thing with the present tense is you want to like basically trick yourself into already having those things you know you have to be careful bro cuz people get delusional okay and I don't like delusion I like like optimistic right and and and confident not cocky delusional you've been around some delusional people I'm sure for sure everybody has you know that's why I always tell people bro do not journal the same [ __ ] thing

as me okay you Know if you're brand new to this [ __ ] Journal about what feels just slightly this is a this is a key part of this journal what feels slightly crazy to you but still achievable MH so you know for me that might be making x amount of millions or whatever it is you know um just a little bit more than what I did the year before whatever it is and for you that might be literally one sale $50 one retainer you know that feels [ __ ] crazy but still achievable to

you or it Could be $10,000 unfortunately people don't listen to that one they go $100,000 first month cuz bro Sydney and Lis did it you know it's like bro oh my God stop um it's very important you have to get the material world to time to form around your yes bro thought yeah and you can't give too crazy bro because actually that's like a it's it's it's actually a self uh manipulation or it's a self-sabotage Prophecy where you do that you shoot so crazy just to say like like it's like for ego you got the

number externally as well yes we're not here for that [ __ ] [ __ ] dude um and then the present tense starts tricking your brain bro and you start becoming that person before it happens and when you're ready you're you're and when it happens you're ready for it and two your brain starts working backwards bro your subconscious is unbelievably powerful MH It's actually what's controlling all of your actions and thoughts yeah where do your thoughts come from it's so crazy like where where is this coming from right now nobody has an explanation for that

by the way which is so dope why you really just want to set that's what you mean by Trick yourself yeah that's what you mean that's I would like had a very bad taste about religion in my life for like a very long time same so that's why I don't like using the word God for it Even though it is objectively what the religions are trying to express to you it's like just trying to teach you the set of actions to get you to what you want to do or what you want to achieve it's

like an operating system and your subconscious is God it's like exactly so you need to like set the goal post and then your subconscious will start telling you to act like ideas will come into your head that you could have never thought of but like that's what you need To do to get towards that goal he need to surrender and trust it and that's why I always disclaimer that too bro you know it's like I like I did earlier it's not and some people taught me that this year shout out to a few of my

students in my program they teach me so much too bro it's like it's symbiotic these guys were like dude you should look into like God it's they're like it's funny you wear this chrome Hearts brand that's your favorite brand Ever and it just happens to have crosses on it [ __ ] okay [ __ ] like you're like drawn to it yeah yeah I was I was like okay and they're like yeah check out God I'm not talking religion I'm talking about just like the concept yeah there's a really have you read the book conversations

with God M favorite my favorite book of all time bro peep it that sounds interesting it's about this guy who asks like is God real if it is Show me and he writes this entire this is a story um writes this entire book of God coming to him to show him it was real and like teaches these profound lessons bro that are not biblical they're just like they're in line with most stuff but good ways I think nval it was literally nval quote most on a recent podcast saying that like God existed before the Bible

like by definition so the people writing the Bible were just like trying to put into Words they're experience with it so therefore you can experience it without having to read this book first ideally obviously that will help you but like everyone will have their own relationship with it and find it their own way regardless if as they're open to it the judgmentalness is the problem in those religions yeah the funny thing is like that has literally been the anti-thesis of this podcast the whole point of this podcast is go super Tactical go through your business

exactly like it's a free course in your business mhm but like the last year and a half the more and more I like get into I'm like holy [ __ ] I don't none of these tactics ever mattered like it just set my intention lowkey skipped it bro yeah I could tell for sure which is good it's because it's the most it's the simplest and most important thing to understand first because then all the tactics won't work for you if you don't truly Understand where you're trying to go and it's the majority of the course

and the majority of the piece and like that but it's not it's not the it's not the majority need needle mover though need mover is you yeah it's interesting bro it's like I a year ago would not have had a good podcast but this like I can actually resonate with so this is God's timing literally God so that's the answer bro that's why we haven't met I think genuinely bro that's cuz like we Have so many mutuals it's stupid we lived in the same city bro yeah I didn't know I didn't even know you were

roomates with him I did not know you were in Scott know I've always thought you were Miami boy well I appreciate you paying $30,000 to come out here on the plane ride it was free to come on the Pod but that was a baller move you those people and spreading God's word bro dude we just got we just went into it I usually try to just dance around it but Hell yeah let's own it yeah dude it's well you don't have to be AF like like you're not saying anyone else who isn't that as bad

you know yeah I just and can't watch this and you don't agree with them whatever I run a business where I talk about it dude and I'm like hey you ever feel uncomfortable you let me know you like I'm I'm I'm respectful of you believe in anything bro you could believe in Fes you know uh morals are are deeper than anything I'm I'm Definitely someone who refers to it it's like the universe of spirituality yeah but now I understand what they mean when they say they reference like the word god what it's supposed to reference

so I'll just use the same lingo at this point right pray to the universe bro pray to be a good person and you know this is my thing with relationships too bro this is like you're with one person 24 hours a day and that's you for the rest of your life it's not someone else And and conversations with God changed my [ __ ] entire life they said why do all relationships fail divorce all this stuff I witnessed it firsthand it's brutal because people SE completeness in somebody else before sharing completeness with somebody else profound

mic drop ass statement um is one of the most referred to things I think in my life personally and once I started working on myself like I'm not even fully there yet bro I got insecurities That I want to yeah you're young uhhuh all these things that's that's That's the basis of this [ __ ] yeah my girlfriend and I went through it together and we were we were like a really rocky relationship until that like she had panic attacks and like a ton of anxiety All This and like same time I was going through

all of it and I was just like educating her with me solved all of her problems and now we're like the like locked into each other's Soul it's pretty cool wow bro shout shout out shout out Miss melinsky man shout out Miss molinsky hell yeah let's go all right we'll wrap it there but bro thank you for coming out thank you for sharing you're killing it thank you again my brother for real um whatever this pod does you deserve them man without [ __ ] time bre got his [ __ ] flowers man and I

don't care that curse like a sailor you know me neither and hopefully some people watch this if they Don't one person can change their life from it and that's what you care about too so this was the energy pod you came here for the energy that should hype you up he's like a multi multi multi-millionaire so follow Jimmy Farley where can they follow you a couple not a mil but yeah let's get it man we got to speak the present tense bro you're you're 100 you got 100 Mil bro okay fair fair fair all right

we're cut we're cut where can they find you just say oh [ __ ] Um you can find me on Instagram Jim poppy um self coin term that is somehow stuck as a joke and it's it's it is a joke uh Twitter Jimmy Farley 0000 YouTube um or in the Bible boom