Welcome to the channel "After all, what are we? " Paula is a businesswoman and lives in São Paulo one night she went to the bathroom she slipped hit her head on the wall and had an eqm an ekm that changed her a lot she learned to listen to herself she understood that she was bigger than she imagined and that she really deserved to love herself as we have done we have divided this interview into two parts both published today and in the first part she tells us about her ekm and answers some questions and in the second part she continues to answer our many very interesting questions you will love it if you like it please Leave your like share with your friends subscribe to the channel this really helps the message reach more people Enjoy [Music] Paula Good afternoon thank you very much for agreeing to share with us on the channel After all, we are your near-death experience and other stories please introduce yourself tell us what you do and where you are speaking and when telling us about your ekm don't spare us any details Thank you very much in advance the floor is with you good afternoon Carlos My name is Paula speaking here from São Paulo and it's me I work in the beauty sector and my experience can start by saying everything, you can say everything, my experience happened in 2019 on August 30, 2019 and I'm going to need to talk a little about my personal side so that people can understand and I've always had a group of friends since I was a teenager, we always drank a lot so that was always part of our game, right? drinking and at that time my daughter was having some serious problems sleeping, she always slept alone but a few months ago she had difficulty sleeping, she said she was afraid of something that she didn't know exactly what it was but only her mother protected her, so sleeping was very complicated and I was super, I even thought that the experience had something to do with it because we hadn't even drunk so much compared to other times, but hey, when we came home we had been drinking, we also didn't have the habit of taking my daughter when we went.
I was going to drink and on that exact day as there were children's toys and everything else there we ended up taking them and we went and on the way back home I put her to sleep it was around 1:30 in the morning or so she had it I put her there to sleep I took a shower and slept I rolled over like that I blacked out and around two 3 am she woke up why not once again the fear, you know, she had it and she wanted her mommy then my husband got up and tried to make her sleep several times and he spent more than an hour trying to make her sleep sleep but she didn't have to be the mother she had to be the mother and he tried to wake me up he tried to wake me up a lot I didn't he said he didn't even move he said he tried to wake me up he called and I didn't move until the moment I ended up getting up a little irritated I ended up going to the bathroom I don't remember my daughter I don't remember I remember a little so I got irritated right I guess I don't know I was sleeping right I woke up a little irritated I went to the bathroom when I got to the bathroom I sat on the toilet in the dark and slept on the toilet I remember too From that moment when he arrived he turned on the light and hit me on the shoulder like Paula, man, you slept on the toilet so I got up a little irritated at that moment I think I was a little sleepy, I don't know, I ended up slipping, I hit my head on the wall at the back and so here, in reality, after a year or so, I asked him what had happened because for me it was very confusing, what happened, that's when my ekm started here, I hit my head, I got up crying and went to my daughter's room, I didn't even say anything to him, but the moment I I was in the bathroom I came Arriving from a place like this in a way and when I remember how I was coming I always remember a kind of bouncy child, you know because I remember that I was full of all the best feelings that can exist I came from a place and I started to see the scene in the corner of the bathroom I started to see everything that was happening and when I arrived I remember that I was super happy, it even gave me the impression It was something I always did, I always went to that place, but I didn't remember anything, but I also had the feeling that I was with someone, but I also don't remember anyone, I remember that I was like one, I always say consciousness, but I don't know, I remember that it was, it was like I was a relative, bluish gray, a color, Clear, you know, I don't remember a body, it was also like it was really one, I think it's funny that I always say it when we're talking, I always say it, you know those ghost movies that are transparent it seems is what else I think is a little close to what it was and I remember when I arrived I think the idea was to get into the body and continue life when I when I arrived I was scared what was happening And I thought, kind of as a joke, oh I'm going to have to stay here kind of oh look what happened I'm going to have to stay here and and I remember I thought eh it was as if something asked me if I wanted to go back I don't remember I remember my thought that I didn't want to that I wanted to stay there I didn't want to go back I understood everything Carlos it was as if my understanding expanded enormously as I understood the difficulty that my husband was going to go through I understood about my daughter it was as if I lived everything like that even the silly things like suffering to sleep I understood everything and nothing nothing nothing made me think about coming back here you understood what would happen if you came part of the day that was part of that all of that was part of life and that I didn't want to go back It was as if I didn't want to miss the opportunity to stay there, you know, it was as if I really wanted to take advantage of that to stay there and I remember that I was thinking about my daughter, it's so important to me, I remember that I didn't remember, it was as if nothing here mattered, you know, nothing, everything was very banal at the same time that I was very full, I think it's kind of contradictory, some feelings that seem like you have both at the same time, at the same time I was full of love, life here seemed like it didn't matter and when I came back, it was Such a huge importance seems contradictory, you know, it's difficult to understand exactly like that, anyway, I remember that I saw it as if it was what would happen if I really stayed there. I also don't remember if anything was said to me, if you can, you want to stay, do you want to go? I don't remember any of that.
I remember it was me with myself and feeling that there was something with me, some kind of presence. But I don't remember seeing anything like that. At that moment in the bathroom, I started to see what was going on.
floor I saw my husband's feeling like I couldn't hear anything I had the feeling as if I was underwater in my ears I couldn't hear anything but I felt everything I had I felt his feeling I saw him with his hand on his head in the bathroom then if I cry sorry I saw him with his hand on his head in the bathroom I saw my dog even my dog's feeling I felt It seems very silly to say but when we talk It's So Deep that I think that's what makes us change you know, she licked me, she licked my face and she knew I wasn't here anymore but here it touches me but there I only understood one day that I was part of the fact that she was going to have another owner that everything was going to go on without me and that was what I wanted I didn't really want to go back that was the part that I saw in the bathroom then it cuts it's very interesting because it cuts and I see 15 days ahead 14 15 days I was arriving at my house which was more or less the moment that at the time that mine daughter slept from 9:30 to 10 hours and it was a moment when I came back and it was always on top of me, I was coming from the hallway of my house, everything was off, the TV in the living room was on, then there was the light in my daughter's room that was on, which we actually left on too and the light in the hallway was the only light that was on and I remember that when I arrived in that hallway, my mother-in-law was passing by, she was leaving my daughter's room, she had put her to bed, right, and she was leaving and that was one of the last things I remembered it was my mother-in-law I saw a woman leaving but I didn't remember it clearly, you know, over time it's interesting because you remember the story and it seems like everything becomes clear, you know, it seems like everything becomes a little vague then it becomes clear, it's very interesting and then I saw that it was my mother-in-law, she left the room and it was something that moved me a lot because it was one of the last things I remembered, her face and she was there, my husband wasn't there and she was very sad, I felt her feelings and it was she, she was very, very bad and pretending that my daughter was okay, you know, that was one of the things that, like, Oh wow, it really excited me like that, so I went into the room, on top of that, close to the ceiling, I say close to the ceiling But it's interesting that it's like this, you know there's no ceiling, you know you're under the ceiling, but the height for me was much higher than my ceiling, you know, it was like I was much taller, but there's no ceiling, kind of like that, and I remember I got to my daughter's room, she was on her back, looking at the wall, her back turned. Shrunken and I was all happy It looks like someone else, right? I was in another place.
I arrived super happy, just to see how she looked and when I looked, she was on her back, looking at the wall. At that moment, I saw her from the back. But I also saw her face, so it was as if I were both of us having both visions, you know, and I remember that at that moment I told her daughter, I'm fine, I'm happy, very happy, Carlos and I, love, you don't have to be like that, I'm fine, I'm just fine, I also saw her face.
And then it was another shock because at the same time as me, I understood a lot of things, I wasn't prepared, I thought she was going to hear me and when I said that I saw her face it didn't change anything she kept looking at the wall she didn't hear me Then it dawned on me that she didn't hear me and at that moment it was the only moment also in every moment that I was here from the bathroom to the bedroom the view was always from above from afar but the moment I went to talk to her was the only moment that I went down and was at the same height of the bed then when I saw her face I realized that she you didn't hear me Then I remember I remember it gave me a bit of sadness the first time it gave me a bit of that feeling So And I thought about the possibility of going back but when I thought about the possibility of going back I already came from a place far away Carlos it's like it was I always said it felt like a runaway train until I started watching some things and talking about the tunnel I said wow it's much closer a tunnel but in my case it was a tunnel it was dark very dark and I remember mixtures of feelings many mixtures of feelings and flashes of light coming from the outside to the inside and it was very fast very far from very far and and it was at the moment that I woke up when I woke up, no, it was the moment that I hit my head and got up then I did something like this you know that was the moment that really happened I hit my head I got up crying and went to my daughter's room and that was it, my part is this Paula in our previous conversation Oh I understood that before you felt this threat of sadness in your feelings when you were with your daughter you felt her feelings she wanted you to talk about That's because I think it was missing, it's true, I forgot that detail, in fact, before I spoke to her, I first felt that she was very sad and she was thinking about me, she was thinking, she was thinking, Mom, how I wish you were here with me, God, I'm going to cry from now on . several others is that you were in control of what happened at the time you, as you said, love thinking Have you already come back, in other words, there was no deliberation OK she wants to go back, she came back, no, you were in control It seems like that to you too, yes, including Carlos, it's very interesting that I feel that I feel this, this enormous intelligence, this one that was shown to me exactly what would make me come back, you know, because I don't wow, nothing would make me come back, nothing, nothing, not even my daughter, who is the most important thing in my life at that moment. but I believe that I don't have it there, I think, you know, there isn't that more or less Will I go back, it's a feeling, right, it's a bit, I don't know for me, it's a lot, there's no room for doubt, you know, what you just told me makes me think that perhaps a scene was provided to actually check what you exactly wanted and I'll go further I didn't say that part in the email after all that, what happened to me afterwards was a lot, it was a very long continuation o my ekm, I think it's very short compared to what I experienced After a lot It's a personal thing, you know, sometimes it's not really worth talking about, but then I had an anxiety attack and I had a lot of these.
Especially when I was with my daughter, moments when I was driving, when I picked her up from school, I had feelings of death like that, and I feel like even coming back, it seems a little crazy , right ? If I closed my eyes I would go and here I didn't want that, on the contrary, I want to live until I'm about 120 years old , I want to live a long time, so it seems to me that it was until after I actually came back to reality PR, our reality here, every day, it seems like things come to pass. that is not in my control that is in my control and I decide not to come back but you are afraid for you or because of you for the people who stay just for me not at the beginning these these these anxiety attacks that I had I even had kind of one like it was a depression you know at the time when I came back I had a lot of I felt a lot of feelings from people both the good side and the bad side also I remember that I was watching a report about a ah a discussion that there was between two YouTubers and one of them was depressed I remember that even that made me sick I started watching a part I started to get a little depressed and I was like why am I like this it seems like I sucked everything out of people Sponge is totally but not just in person even Via to this day I can't watch war films and horror films that I loved back in the day even science fiction because war fiction is different from a documentary nothing nothing it's like inside we can't identify if it's a lie or it's true you know you suck at anything Nowadays, I realize that ours has changed a lot, a lot, a lot, I watch some things, I don't, I didn't also talk about the part about when it happened, I started to hear a lot.
Praise is something that after we talked, I even thought about why I heard praise, but man, if you think that something happened that, in my understanding and in my life, was one of the best and most difficult things that happened in my life, I just wanted things that reminded me of where I came here, but it seems like I stayed living there. you still know, so for me, this is all that reminded me of, eh, God or the creator, something like that, inexplicable, that was what gave me , I don't know how to explain it, but it was what gave me meaning here, you know, I wanted it to be there in reality But as I was here, I tried to live with things, things here made me sick, it was kind of like that, you talked about anxiety and depression, this is very common in people who go through a near-death experience, oh, it's usually a mixed feeling of missing there and the realization that you no longer fit in here and no one gives you understand why your work is very important No one understands you I remember that at the time it was like that at the same time that oh it's very very strange because it was It was a couple of years like this in a row which were the two best years because I think I was very connected Carlos everything that everything I did a simple song Wow took me to a state very good looking at the sky left me in this very good state, it's like it was a reminder of what I felt there, you know, and before you never felt homesick when looking at the sky, no, you started to have a lot nowadays, it got very cold And by coincidence I even got a little emotional before you arrived because coincidence, I stayed there for about 15 minutes looking at my window there and I felt it again, it's been a while since I felt that, you know, because of homesickness, it's the connection and it's very funny because, at the beginning, I looked and aquo bring me something very incredible like this very good and how it brings you you remember to look at it all the time I was losing it over time as if I was creating it you know and it's very interesting that as you don't have it you start to forget it so sometimes I catch myself on days without looking at the sky anymore you know and at that time it was like this the first thing I woke up it was kind of a good day you know and I felt this longing today and have you seen anything in the sky So in fact I actually didn't get to see it until I would like to talk look I saw it I had communication no I didn't get it I was just looking at it, it was just beauty, the blue, those clouds, I love those white clouds that have a very strong white in the background, almost bluish, you know, it's as if it reminds me of something that I don't remember, and today, after years, I think it must have been a few years or months ago, like, I was trying, as if it were a void, Zinho, you know, as if you needed to fill it in some way. a much greater knowledge than you have here I had this part that I told you about the little things it was like As if I understood Life is so crazy it's like you review your whole life quickly and briefly you know and it made you understand like a soap opera when you watch it in its entirety but you had what they call a movie of life you had this Carlos I had this feeling in the tunnel of feelings but after that I became a very reflective person about myself it seems like I wanted to recognize myself again but that tunnel was on the way back It was only on the way back that you talked about lights that came in and that it was like flashes of light on the outside, like it made some cracks, you know, but now you talked about a movie of life, so you didn't use that expression I used But you talked about having seen little pieces.
At what point in the bathroom, what led to that thing in the bathroom happening is I saw, like, silly phrases like that, oh, let's take a look, you know, like, oh, let's take a look at the importance of small actions, I had this understanding of how if I had seen my life but when I was after all that I became reflective I remembered situations from when I was little that I later thought were my thoughts trying to remember what had happened when I was a child things that I had already forgotten like for example taking medicine to die I remember that I didn't feel like a very happy child and I started to see Several scenes of what had happened and after a long time thinking about these things my mother cut my hair in a way that I didn't like I felt the feeling that little child had many things that seemed silly but after thinking about it and remembering it I realized that I saw the singing scene too so maybe it wasn't maybe I didn't maybe it was also part of mine I don't remember but for me I thought that as I had become a very reflective person after the EKM I thought these were memories that were coming because I was thinking about who Paula was in Paula's life, right? these memories came later in a point of view that was also from above and this view from the point of view I remember from the Vision also from the corner of my mother's room which was when I was going up to the wardrobe to get a bunch of medicines that didn't even have a label, you know I remember that I saw it and I didn't remember it anymore, like I remember that I took everything that was there after I got super sick and I didn't I died and how old were you I think it was about 7 o and you saw this scene And you felt what you were feeling at that exact moment And why did you want to give up here Ah I didn't feel loved because oh people I'm going to cry the whole video but you didn't feel loved you felt out of place from here too Car I felt that oh I felt that you were very beautiful in my family I felt that my parents loved me I felt that but you didn't feel that you were from somewhere else that not only did you feel that I wasn't from here there was a lot a lot of dying I remember you said that you felt like you weren't from here and I didn't feel like that, I didn't feel like I was somewhere else but I didn't want to be here I felt like I didn't fit in at all I didn't feel like I was part of my family I don't know exactly you said that ah when you had the ekm that you looked like you had been to this place several times several times and now you say that you felt at a time that you weren't from here not that you were from somewhere these two pieces of information complement each other in some way maybe because in one you say it wasn't from here in the other you say you went there often it was the feeling you had but Carlos look how crazy I still try to understand some things and I remember that the feeling I had was I feel like I went there often But I also feel like it was irresponsible of me, you know, going to that place and I don't know if nowadays I understand everything differently than I did, right? Nowadays I always think I always treat and understand that our body is like a little house and I I think when you drink, when you have a very strong addiction, I talk about drinking Because I had this experience, right, I wasn't a rump, I only drank on the weekends, but those who drink constantly and have the habit of going out with a friend and just drinking , it seems like we can't have any other type of entertainment that doesn't involve drinking.
What I realized was that I was different it was very strange I think I remember that my husband was super worried then he arrived and asked me love something happened We were out of control I don't know what he looked like he was scared you know I didn't even ask him why but hey I felt different I felt very strong self love today I think today I understand that it was the first time I loved myself you know then I understood that even if you don't feel like I'm here if you have your love is the only thing What does it matter, you know? Ah, I already love myself so much, so I often notice in interviews this key, you know, first of all, you need to love yourself, it's incredible and it even reminds me of that question of When you're going to fly on a plane, the instructions are the first one. When the oxygen masks fall off, the mother first puts it on herself and then puts it on the child.
We always care more about each other, right, all the time, I think we care much more about making each other happy, making each other happy when you saw these scenes or when you started to remember these scenes that you suppose you saw during the MRI, like you climbing into the cupboard to get the medicine, these and the other scenes that were shown to you or at least the ones that came back to your memory, you saw something that united you . taking the medicine were two specific scenes, you know, that I feel today that I had forgotten, but I think they were the ones that hurt me the most when I was a child, when my mother cut my hair in a way that I didn't want either, you know, I didn't want her, you didn't want her, I don't remember, I don't think so, I don't know, but I remember my older sister, she always had super beautiful hair. and she wanted my mother to do this cut but my mother didn't cut it even though she asked and my father didn't cut it either my father cut our hair, you know, my father does everything like that so my father cut everyone's hair in the city and he and she said to cut my hair I hated it I didn't like it and I didn't have a voice and I didn't like it your sister wanted to cut it and they didn't cut it nor did my mother cut it nor did my father cut it and they cut it and I didn't want to cut it exactly and I was the one who hurt the most.
the child's feeling, you know, like, it's my feeling and it's very interesting, it seems that we become disconnected in life, you know, in life, but even though we don't have the ekm, it's even before we had the ekm, since my daughter was born, I've been raising her, it seems like I think it's very interesting, it seems like I wanted to be the mother that that little child wanted at that time, you know, and today I'm doing it the other day, talking to my sister-in-law, I spoke to her PR, we were talking about things in life anyway, I said, wow, today I feel like I've become the woman that that little child needed it you know and it's enough beautiful I'm very crying Car sorry but it's enough you know like we don't need the love of other people if we have our own we end up being if we put ourselves first not in a selfish way, you know, but then you really love yourself, you know, like, do your best for you, you know, nowadays I love, I seem crazy, right, but when I go to sleep, I love to hold my own hand, then I say these things, I can say that, you can also feel this love here, you know, there are silly things that seem silly that They are simple and Wow, I love holding my own hand and feeling my own hand Oh man, how crazy I am So there are things like that I think when we learn to love ourselves to make ourselves happy there's no way you can't do it whoever is on your side is happy you know it has to be from you first I believe today and in the past I always did the opposite until I was 30 you talked about the depression how it went away eh Wow Carlos the first year was very strange because they were the most incredible years and the most difficult ones like that, it's an incredible thing that you there I can say anything, no, no, I don't feel satisfied, it seems like there's a lot of good things to say, but we can't put it into words, you know, but it was very difficult. I also remember that when I started taking medication, I did it when I went to the psychiatrist. I went to the psychologist.
Nobody understands you . who also went through ekm which we didn't know was ekm at the time but I remember that I completely understood it but I didn't remember mine I understood we talked a lot I missed something that I didn't remember I heard these praises which I also didn't it wasn't a natural thing to listen to but it connected me it was like I was doing therapy alone in the bath I put on praise and sometimes I didn't even hear the music it seems like it was just a connection channel Oh you heard it doesn't mean that you heard inside your head it wasn't really sound I put it on I have my little playlists of songs and I put it on and I thought I thought about many things in my life many things and then even depression the anxiety attacks I wasn't yet aware of what I had I remember it seemed like the scene was always happening in my head It seems like I saw the scene happening all the time self-love and that I was different and that I became very reflective it seems like I needed to know myself, you know and another very big need that I also had was to resolve unresolved things I had Wow, my husband must have thought Wow, how unbearable this woman was because I called him to talk directly about things and arguments fights from 10 years ago when we started dating, so I feel like I had this one. I feel like if I hadn't followed through because it was very difficult, we're human, right?
And sometimes it's much easier for us to run away from the situation than to face it, and I remember when I went to talk, it was a boring situation, it generated some, you know, annoying things like that in the family, it was much easier sometimes to pretend that everything was fine and put up with it, but I had such a great anguish as if something led me to act in such a way, you know, as if I needed to resolve these unresolved things, not to be left with any regrets, including the things from back when I was a child, these I've been analyzing my whole life, it seems like I needed to know myself, so I kept thinking and thinking about things and when I thought about them, the image came to me, it seems that when you came back, things were there, you know, you just needed to access things again and think and access things and you had an intuition that you needed to talk about it with the person involved. stop watching the second part of Paula's interview where she continues to answer our many questions the link is available for you here above and also in the video description if you liked it please subscribe to our channel give likes make comments share with friends ring the bell so you always know when a new video comes out of the oven and if you have any questions or have been through an ekm and would like to share your story with the world please write to us our email is After all what we are @gmail.
