ladies and gentlemen I would like to uh introduce someone who I consider one of the smartest people I know and who understanding of the world is matched only by his ability to synthesize huge themes uh and illustrate them with precise detail someone who's traveled the world for 40 years uh a man who not only writes about the leaders the world but knows them personally Professor Jeffrey saxs [Applause] [Music] thank you thank you um thank you very much Jeff um thank you so how long I just you were telling me backstage I didn't realize this for
for those who enjoyed prime minister orbon I'm one of them I was tell us when you first met the Prime Minister uh we met uh 46 years ago 36 years ago sorry 36 years ago 1989 he was just getting out of jail at that point no yeah they were just opening up and this young guy was starting a political party and he gave me a call and uh we sat in our my backyard in uh in Boston for a few hours and I thought okay this guy's going to be prime minister for most of the
next 36 years it's very very impressive then very impressive now so you said that you saw in him and it's not just about him but it's about what are the markers of enduring leadership what makes you know this politician impressive While most of them are not impressive what did you see in him what do you see in leaders like him who have been successful look this was 1989 uh it was even before the Berlin Wall fell but Hungary had cut the barbed wire so people were that was the beginning of the end in 1989 of
the Soviet domination of of Eastern Europe and uh this young guy said I'm going to make a political party and I'm going to be a leader and I'm going to make a new hungry and uh what he showed was Vision that look we're a great country we've been held back for the last 45 years I'm going to help lead the way and it was a uh fides young Democrats I think was the translation of it and he just had the idea we're we're going to move forward he was a kid and we were all kids
then um and um you could see that there was energy Vision foresight and and it proved right yeah and of toughness so you heard his analysis I think of where we are um with the war in Ukraine election of trump on the basis in part of you know his promise to to try to end this if he can you saw the new secretary of defense say no we're not going to support Ukraine's entry into NATO where are we now you know yesterday was the most uh important day for peace in maybe decades actually uh this
war in Ukraine resulted from a very bad idea of the United States taken in 1994 it's a project the project uh was a a project to expand NATO forever anywhere just keep moving East uh keep moving not only to the first wave which was the prime minister's country Hungary Czech Republic and Slovakia but then move Eastward closer to the former Soviet Union into the former Soviet Union surround Russia in the Black Sea region go all the way to a little country in the South caucuses Georgia uh it was mindboggling Clinton signed on to that in
1994 it became what we call the deep state project meaning it didn't really matter who the president was each president would come and basically would be informed NATO is moving Eastward you're part of that process so Clinton started it in 1994 and as prime minister Orban said he mentioned briefly uh in 1990 on February 9th 1990 in unequivocal clear as can be terms the United States and said to president Mel gorbachov NATO will not move one inch Eastward and if you have any doubt about it all the documents are now online available you can scrutinize
everything Hans dietr genter the US the German foreign minister said the same thing same day he's on tape actually explaining no no I don't just mean within Eastern Germany I mean anywhere to the east Clinton being Clinton and the US deep State being the US deep State started this project in 1994 they already had the idea by the way in in 1991 92 as soon as the Soviet Union ended aha Now we move Now we move Eastward now we control everything now we are the sole superpower so this has gone on for 30 years and
uh each president got into it uh under George Bush Jr seven more countries were added Estonia lvia Lithuania Slovakia Slovenia Bulgaria and Romania n in 2004 then in 2007 President Putin said at the summit that's taking place right now the Munich security Summit said stop you told us no expansion not an Eastward expansion even an inch you said you've now done 10 countries stop perfectly reasonable stop I don't think our president Donald Trump would much like to see China and Russia building their military bases up from Central America you know this was how the Russians
saw this why are you coming to our border when you told us you weren't going to move and there was one other thing that was very important in this which is probably the most decisive thing and almost not even recognized in 2002 the US did something really really really destabilizing and that is it unilaterally left the anti-ballistic missile treaty that was a core strategy to stop a nuclear war between the two superpowers because what ABM had done for 30 years was to say we each have deterrence you if you strike us we can strike back
we'll limit our anti-ballistic missiles so that both sides maintain deterrence in 2002 the United States unilaterally unprovoked walked out of ABM said no no we're not going to do it anymore we're going to put anti B istic missile systems into Russia's bordering territories the Russians said are you kidding the US said what's your problem we do what we want so in 2007 Putin said stop already in 2008 George Bush Jr doubled down as Americans typically do and said okay now we're moving to Ukraine and to Georgia that was uh why this war occurred but Ukraine
had one more sliver of of life and that was that they elected a president in 2010 that didn't want to be part of NATO and the public didn't want to be part of NATO why because they knew this is very dangerous why get into this provocative situation his name was Victor yanukovich Americans don't like neutrality but yanukovich was trying to be neutral between the two sides and the US played a rather unfortunate role on February 22nd 2014 in a violent overthrow of this person and um that's when the war started and it's been now 10
years and no president has uh told the truth until yesterday by the way yesterday is a historic day because the a call took place between President Putin and president trump it was the first call and we don't know if there had been a short call beforehand between the two of them but there was no call by Biden and Putin with war going on for three years no call and now there was a call and the readout from the American side was excellent was president Trump said in the call was we respect Russia we hear Russia's
concerns we fought on the same side in World War II nice Point by the way true Russia lost Soviet Union lost 27 million people in World War II and was an ally of the United States a fact that wasn't mentioned for years and years and years by President Biden and then the defense secretary heg set the new defense secretary said yesterday the truth for the first time that Ukraine is not going to join NATO this is the basis for peace this is absolutely the basis for peace and they couldn't tell the truth for three decades
they could not admit what any of us knew because I've been around this region for 30 six years in detail I sat with Boris yelson I sat with Mel gorbachov but the Americans would not tell the truth publicly until yesterday that this was so provocative it was a game they thought they'd win the game I don't know how many people here play or played in their childhood the game of Risk the game of Risk was a big game for me you wanted your peace on every part of the world map that was the game when
you took over the whole world world hegemony We Now call it uh you won they're playing that game until this Administration so the two most important three important things have happened in my view in this Administration so far first our new secretary of state Marco Rubio told the fundamental truth we are in a multi-polar world first time the sentence was uttered he told the truth what does it mean the American mindset for 30 years was We Run The Show Marco Rubio said well we don't run the show we live with other powerful countries great start
second and third were the two events yesterday so I'm feeling about peace that this is really something that happened yesterday uh it if they follow through we know what Washington is like there's every crazy idea swarming still a project of 30 years doesn't go down necessarily in one phone call or one statement by uh the uh Secretary of Defense but it's pretty important that it was said so publicly and so visibly and of course Europe is in a because Europe signed on to the US project all these politicians in Europe are there where they are
because they were part of the US project and now the US is reversing its project and you didn't tell us and you didn't what are we supposed to do we're way out there and so they're completely befuddled and I have to say I told them personally many of these leaders and I mean personally one by one for years you are going to get trapped this way because this project doesn't work it doesn't make sense it's a game for the Americans but it's life and death for the Russians so it cannot be won by the American
side it's impossible and I tried to tell them and nobody in Europe either had the clarity or the guts to see it except the person that preceded me in this seat prime minister Orban because he was was completely clear about this from the first day now others are starting but even till today the Europeans can't get it because they're so deeply invested in something that makes no sense they should have said Russia's big it lives near near us let's cooperate that's how you do it your online activity is being watched and not just certain things
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attacking the other person on the basis of motive and you saw this with orbon you're a Russian stoe or whatever and was especially hilarious as he explained know he's the opposite of a Russian stooge of course lifelong this country was occupied by the Russians but you do see it also in the United States and it makes it kind of impossible to have a rational conversation about any I know you've been the the butt of this too not whining about it but it's like yeah is there even a culture in our foreign policy establishment of having
rational conversations to the point where we can solve problems like this you know we've talked about I think an uncle of yours uh who's one of my favorite politicians of American History J William Fulbright and um he wrote a book in the 1960s called the arrogance of power and I was a a kid then uh and I read that book like it was the coolest thing imaginable this was the chairman of the US Foreign Relations Committee saying we're too arrogant to think clearly that was amazing he was an amazing person now I think that's the
fundamental problem I'm not sure we're properly over it but I have to say that um in 19991 we had the chance for Global Peace really for Global Peace uh that Doomsday Clock of the atomic scientist which I like to refer to so much which measures how close or far are we from nuclear war was the farthest away it was ever in its history because the Cold War had ended so I was there as a as a young Economist who actually knew something about economic stabilization and I made proposals and uh interestingly just as a footnote
I advised the Polish government in 1989 I just long story but suddenly as a kid I happened to be there and I helped write their plan and I uh everything I recommended for Poland was immediately accepted by the White House was a very odd thing uh in fact I went one day I had an idea of mobilizing some Finance to help Poland stabilize and I called the Polish Finance Minister said you mind if I try to raise a billion dollars for you today which was lot of money in in those days and said if you
raise a billion dollars that would be great so I called Bob Dole our Senate majority leader whom I knew because of the Poland work that I was doing and he invited me immediately into his office and he said come back in an hour so I came back in an hour this was uh September 1989 and who was sitting there General Brent skof oh okay he was the General who was our national security adviser I was a kid um so it was a little bit interesting moment and he Senator Dole said to me explain to General
skoof your idea so I handed him the paper and this is how you do Financial stabilization and here's how you stabilize the currency and skor crof looked at it and said well will this work and I said General this will work and uh dole led me out of the office and said call me back later in the day so at 5:00 p.m. I called and Dole said the White House is called you have tell your friends you have the 1 billion so I raised a billion dollars that day it was good uh so no no
it had nothing to do with me uh because uh it was the right idea the Polish walti stabilized I did a good I did a good thing I was a technically uh equipped uh sophisticated manager of a financial stabilization or not manager but adviser on the financial stabilization okay then in 1991 I recommended the same thing for gorbachov and for this creaking collapsing uh Soviet Union gorbachov wanted to have elections in all of the republics and he wanted to democratize and stabilize so okay I know something about that Mr President and so we met uh
in the Harvard Kennedy School and uh there were uh one two three four five of us uh a little team one of them was the chief economic advisor of gorbachov Gregory yavlinsky one was the dean of the Kennedy School one became a very senior Diplomat Bob Blackwell that I deal with one was a very senior Economist at MIT Stanley fiser we wrote a plan for how the Soviet Union could stabilize and I did the chapter on the financing basically the same thing that I had said from Poland okay it was completely rejected within about 12
hours in Washington okay I hated this for the next 30 years I have to tell you because we just could not take yes for an answer couple of months ago someone sent me from the archives the first time that I'd ever seen it the National Security Council minutes rejecting The Proposal fascinating to read because that's your life before your eyes watching this uh there was a guy named dick Darman who was a former colleague of mine the technical term I don't I don't think I can say it in mixed company actually so I I I
won't say what I would say about him um but it's an unpleasant English word it's really nasty uh too nasty for polite company he says in this thing we should do the minimum necessary so that there's not a collapse but nothing more and uh he quotes mavelli and uh you know we're not interested and we're not going to do this and it's it's really watching stupid people taking important stupid decisions fools by the way they never called to say can we discuss stabilization this guy knew nothing they don't understand anything they don't care so what
were they doing they actually reached a conclusion at the end of the meeting we're going to do the minimum possible I mean minimum minimum it's not our business to help we're not going to do any of that that's arrogance of power we don't have to do anything why we're the United States we don't have to do anything they didn't even look the stakes for the world were very high you could have a 30 minute phone call to understand Financial stabilization you could say in history when countries are destabilized this way here's how stability has worked
that was my specialty that's what I knew and taught at Harvard and knew knew a lot about but they're so arrogant that it's not even to discuss for a half an hour any of this and they didn't and they took a terrible decision and by the way my point is not that that led on to this and this and this no they took terrible decisions for the next 35 years this could have been stopped at any moment not one thing led to the next thing no one stupid decision then the next one then the next
one then the next one you have to learn to behave the way you behave in this world is mutual respect the way you behave is thinking you're not going to be more secure if they're completely destabilized that's what you have to understand and that is not so hard to understand we teach it to our kids at age four we start teaching that and then suddenly if you want your passport to Washington you have to forget it at age 40 or something and that's how they behave so that's my feeling about this that it's just a
kind of arrogance and you can see it in this writing which I find fascinating to go back and watch this tragedy unfold 1997 another wonderful moment if you want to just watch hubris and tragedy very good book good in that it's insightful terrible book in that it's all wrong by big brinsky and many of you have probably read it called the Grand chessboard and he could have called it the game of Risk it would have been a little bit more accurate but it was about how to make American dominance in the world and he has
a chapter about expanding NATO to Ukraine exactly that he and he talks about Europe and NATO expanding Eastward and the question that he asked in 1997 is what can the Russians do about it because they're weak and he answers meticulously he considers would Russia ever Ally with China in impossible he that that'll never happen that'll never happen could Russia ever Ally with Iran no impossible that will never happen so you watch like we watch now chat GPT thinking out loud it's all there it's all wrong and it was all American policy for the next 25
years that's tragedy me ask a question though like a kind of thematic fundamental question so a great Empire one of it you know Empires tend to be arrogant I do think that's a feature of Empires that is it but a an enduring Empire shows stability its goal is stability and it because it understands exactly what you said I thought so nicely it doesn't help you if your neighbors are in chaos it doesn't help you it's against your own interest so that's such an obvious Insight the Roman Empire was based on it the British Empire was
based on it ours is the only Empire I'm aware of that has kind of intentionally so chaos and I don't understand where that thinking comes from I'm leaving aside the moral questions is it right or wrong it doesn't work for you so why have we done it you know uh the Roman Empire is always a great story for us and I compare the Ukraine war to the battle of the totenberg forest which is ad9 y uh and in ad9 the Roman Empire reached its limits uh on the Rind it never it tried to conquer the
Germanic tribes uh in 9 ad they were defeated uh under Augustus and um there were sporadic border things from then on but they never tried again they had hundreds of years where that just wasn't was wasn't their business it was very very smart hadrien uh in the the uh first uh 2 Century ad was the emperor at the maximum extent of the Roman Empire and he basically wanted stability across the the the Border Lines uh and this was the Prudence of the Empire it wasn't Alexander you know was very different three 400 years earlier uh
he wanted to conquer the whole world there was no limit finally his soldiers told him if you go any further we're killing you uh we we've got to go home because they were already at the beyond the indis river but the Romans said no we're going to put some boundaries we're going to keep the borders and we're going to not go beyond our means or our needs I hope what happened yesterday was a a good example of that what Trump and heg Seth did yesterday if they follow through if the Deep State doesn't undermine it
if it's some crazy thing doesn't happen said we don't need to be in Ukraine with NATO we don't need to be it's for us it's nothing and it doesn't mean that Russia's now going to invade Western Europe that's crazy this was a project going the other direction so it's basic prudence and that's what a great power should show Prudence what are the chances that some you said unless the Deep state does to make some crazy thing happens I would note that for a good part of the presidential campaign the Deep state was telling the candidate
Donald Trump that the state of Iran is trying to kill you which as far as I know was totally untrue by the way but they were telling him that in order to prepare him to attack Iran which they're still trying to do so we know that this kind of deception is just a feature of it how hard will people invested in the Ukraine war go what to what lengths will they go to continue this do you think first of all the main job of a US president of a of a successful US president is to
put the foot on the break this is if you look in history the good presidents know when to stop Eisenhower was such Kennedy was such Reagan understood this and all our recent presidents did not up until now basically well TR Truman in Korea George HW Bush in Kuwait I mean also true no that they fought too many wars in my yeah but they but they did stop and no but they stopped but they made too much Iraq 2003 I mean there were just too many too many wars uh so the question is is uh can
we learn and can the president keep the foot on the break if he does he will have an extremely successful Administration he I think understands that all of netanyahu's pleading and this has been 30 Years also this another project to go for the us to go to war with Iran is just the worst idea imaginable would be a disaster and so I think president Trump understands that I think he understands that a war with China would be a complete disaster which it would be um though there's a lot of war party around on that the
funny thing about our time right now not funny the the the wonderful thing about our time right now is that we're in the midst of the biggest technological boom in the history of the world so so many good things could happen in the next 10 to 20 years president Trump has used the expression which I fully subscribe to a golden age we could have it a golden age is not war a golden age is investing in all this wonderful technology so that we can have health care that works education systems that work infrastructure that works
it would be nice if the United States even had one kilometer of fast rail just saying China just completed its 50,000th kilometer of fast rail we we don't have one I can't even take the train reliably from uh New York to actually from Washington to New York last time I took the Accel broke down in the middle uh and I I had to change to a local in New Jersey uh which does not happen between Shanghai and Beijing by the way just saying but you missed the countryside I mean that is part of it though
that's it not a lot of incentive to stop in New Jersey and now they're giving you one there I was I felt so privileged right and there was the local right on the next waiting for us and you wouldn't B imp pic otherwise so you um you count your blessings right so the whole point of market capitalism is consumer choice you have a choice between products and services and the competition between companies makes the goods and services better that's the core idea unfortunately there are an awful lot of monopolies out there monopolies are not good
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clearly this is a massive departure from what we had much more than I thought I feel like I'm I watch Pretty closely I'm Amazed by the ambition of what they're doing and it does feel like the only way to stop this tulsy gabard just confirmed yesterday as the Director of a very big deal it's unbelievable it's a very big deal tsey gabbard's writing the president's Daily Brief tulsey Gabbert is in charge of a lot of declassification efforts like the whole thing is unbelievable the only way to stop this is with a war I mean that's
my kind of simple reading of it do you agree with that I think that is exactly entirely the point and if uh and we had news today please inshah uh that uh the ceasefire will continue on Saturday because more hostages will be released more exchanges will take place and there won't be a return really inshah if it happens and an outbreak of war is stopped because it has to be stopped this will be such a blessing not only for this region but I have to say for our country too the United States age and so
this is really the key moment and I think Trump's instincts are there and what he says we didn't even hear Biden or other presidents say president Trump said many times about Ukraine too many people are dying you didn't even hear those words I mean the idea that War involved by the way maybe a million ukrainians dead or seriously wounded we're going to find out in the next months because finally we'll see what reality is not what the propaganda is but it's horrible what's happened so that instinct is essential and there are several places where everything
could be derailed this region is one of them uh Ukraine is another uh South China and East China Sea is is the third and if the president gets it and has the basic idea we live together in respect with other countries the golden age will come I I think and I'd love your view of this I think of all the amazing things I've seen in the last three and a half weeks maybe the most amazing is the emergence of Steve wickoff who I I just I will say I know personally and like enormously um but
who was a real estate guy okay all of a sudden Trump appoints him an Envoy sort of over and above the massive stable diplomats we have professional diplomats at the state department to go do you know affective ceasefire here in this region and then sends him over to Russia and he winds up meeting yeah with Putin apparently for several hours and then all this stuff happens you've been around diplomats your entire life you've functioned as aat um what do you think of that look he did the single coolest thing since this Administration started I I
have to say which was uh Trump made this ceasefire there's no question about it Biden would never I mean he didn't make the ceasefire because we don't know where Biden was mentally anyway uh but his team was completely incompetent ENT horrible I'm sorry to say it it's very terrible a lot of the rest of us didn't notice that yes it it wasn't a completely it wasn't a completely closely held secret let's say uh so Trump said we got to have a ceasefire before my inauguration and he sent Whit cof and uh witkoff said to Netanyahu
uh I'm coming to meet you tomorrow and uh Netanyahu said no no no tomorrow is uh Saturday we'll we I can't meet you and witkoff said I'll be in your office tomorrow at 1 and uh told him I don't care anything I'm there we're going to have a a discussion and out of that meeting came the ceasefire now the ceasefire looks maybe like it will hold this weekend believe me in Israel they want war everywhere for a lot of reasons but the president's job from my point of view of American interest and the world interest
and this Region's interest everybody's interest no more war stop this now so if witkoff can keep that track record that would be the heroic success but what does it tell you that Steve WI who I will say again I'm biased cuz I really like him he's got a great personality super energetic very straightforward believable but zero training in any of this like none he's a real estate guy and he pulls this off like what does that tell you about a professional diplomatic core I'll tell you one thing it it tells you uh Trump can make
peace if he wants to make peace I mean he needs he needs a capable guy that can go and read the riot act and say this is no joke and we're going to have it and that is basically what good diplomacy is uh and again in the US system of course we've got the Deep State who tell presidents what to do we've got lobbies we've got all all sorts of things but a president's true job is to lead and if you don't have a president Compass mentis like I think we didn't have in the United
States you get War breaking out everywhere like we had in the last two years or if you have a president that is poorly directed or poorly you know really doesn't get it and Clinton was an inconsequential president in my opinion because he is so easily swayed he let he he just made so many lousy decisions uh George Bush JRR listen to Cheney who was really a Non-Stop warmonger and so on if a president gets the idea I want peace because this war is really destructive of everything else I'm trying to do then you can have
peace actually it's possible no one is going to attack the United States so peace depends on us no one is attacking us China is not about to invade the United States Russia's not going to attack the United States Mexico and Canada are not going to attack the United States Panama's not going to attack the United States Greenland's not going to attack the United States I'm sorry to make I don't want to go the whole list but I'm just confident about this so if the president wants peace he'll get it if he gets peace believe me
he'll get all the other things that he wants like low inflation being able to pass the budget that he wants getting his tax policies that he wants but if there's war he ain't GNA get any of it that's the basic point and you know I voted Democratic in n in uh 2020 I voted for Biden and Biden I've had a lot of experience with governments over the last 45 years so I watch them and I I think I understand a lot of of them and Biden in the first days said stupid things about foreign policy
the world is divided between this and this and blah blah blah and you say oh my God what is the guys is doesn't get it and in fact he didn't get it at all and I told many Democratic leaders when they still talk to me now they don't talk to me and I don't talk to them um you're going to Lo you're going to do something completely almost impossible in American politics which is you're going to lose on the basis of foreign policy because Americans don't vote on foreign policy and I said your foreign policy
is so bad this is going toing bring you down and in fact the Democrats lost their heads in this and they were so intent on defeating Trump that no matter what Biden said well we have to back him up 100% as he led them off to war and complicity in the war here and the Ukraine war and tensions with China and all the rest and they created ailu of so much unhappiness in the United United States anxiety higher inflation big budget deficits that the public said no we don't like this this is so they did
really The Impossible but they brought Liz chain over to the Coalition yeah exactly and then what's ironic is you know this wonderful person who was uh confirmed yesterday for uh the uh head of uh Director of National Intelligence py gabard who's really smart by the way very honest uh very meticulous I know her extremely well over many many years totally up and up so I'm delighted she's going to be briefing the president each day I couldn't think of a better person all the Democrats voted against her this is crazy she was their colleague for decades
she stood up for things that they should be applauding her for every one of them voted against her she was the vice chairman of the DNC exactly it's s eight years ago exactly so um I guess the question is the opposition you've alluded to the Deep state but there's also the out in the open State you know the the Congress for example the other party the Democratic party does Trump's success not just in the election winning the popular vote but in affecting piece which is actually popular with people does that change their views on foreign
policy like does he bring people with him or does he stand alone between the two parties as he did in the first term look this is very early days because we're just a little over three weeks into this but if yesterday turns into policy which it could and the Ukraine war ends soon which it could you're going to see everybody changing their views oh I didn't support that peace is great the European leaders are going to be saying the opposite of what they're saying right now look in a hundred politicians anyway three think the rest
line up somewhere tactically so yes they will change their view uh they'll complain about other things that's their job they're in the opposition but this war was a disastrous stupid project that when aai should have ended makes no sense and if Trump pulls it off as he can if he's Resolute now and clear-minded and Whit kof does his work because he'll be the one to do it it looks like and he does his work then this won't be talked about or complained about this will pass into history as just uh another one of those blunders
I mean we don't talk about the 2003 Iraq war or the 20 years wait based in Afghanistan or so many Libya so many completely ridiculous projects that America's been involved in for no conceivable reason other than these uh weird game of Risk ideas we got to own that space on the board turns out the world and that game board are are rather different but if Trump pulls this off what he needs I think and what we need to understand is the American scen it ain't great in general the budget deficit is enormous the fragility of
society is is actually quite significant there is lots of depression lots of violence lots of problems that haven't been addressed for 30 years big big budget deficit uh huge can't be solved without due respect to Elon uh it's not the the budget deficit has very little to do with the size of the Civil Service that's not where the budget deficit comes from that's not where the spending comes from spending comes from 750 overseas military bases from Wars from uh massive outlays of course on pensions on uh on Health Care on interest payments on the debt
and so forth so War derails all of that we're not with them a buffer we're not where the US dollar is king forever it's almost the opposite by the way although it's not so clear to people but 10 years from now it's going to be completely different international monetary scene from the one that we have now because the redond B is going to play a completely different Rule and the way that International settlements will be done is completely different can if you watch Like I Do you see all of the stitching together of a new
system taking shape so the US does not have this great room for maneuver and it's all a game and we can do this and we can do that the president needs to be really accurate right now really accurate and understand also not don't overplay the hand the world's not desperately waiting to get into the US market as I think he thinks uh that these tariffs give all this leverage no the US is not the big deal that maybe some people imagine right now so we got to get our act together and you can't get your
act together in war that's that's the bottom line Professor Jeffrey Sachs thank you very much great to be with you thanks thank you that was great thanks [Music] so it turns out that YouTube is suppressing this show on one level that's not surprising that's what they do but on another level it's shocking with everything that's going on in the world right now all the change taking place in our economy and our politics with the wars we on the cusp of fighting right now Google has decided you should have less information rather than more and that
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JD Vance and Donald Trump etc etc we had the best time and the fruit of that is a documentary called on the road the Tucker Carlson live tour which is is available right now on TCN on the road Tucker Carlon live tour it is hilarious you will like it