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Bonnie Blue, born Tia Billinger, is a British adult content creator known for her provocative stunts, including claiming a world record after sleeping with over 1,000 men in a single day. She rose to online fame through bold, controversial content and was banned from Only Fans in 2025 for violating its rules against extreme challenges, later moving her material to fansly. Her unapologetic approach and headline making feats have made her one of the most divisive figures in adult entertainment industry.
>> Hi. >> Well, you look you look nice and fresh. >> Thank you.
I have to literally just wash my face. >> I love it. Um well, let's get into it.
>> Today, are we talking to Bonnie or are we talking to Tia? >> Um they're the same thing to be honest. Same person.
Bonnie to a certain degree. like is a performance, but I still enjoy those things. It's not as if I have to switch off and I can't, you know, I have to disassociate what I'm doing when I'm Bonnie.
That's not the case. And when I talk about the things I believe in or the things I am passionate about, >> that's the same whether I'm Bonnie or Tia. It's just when I'm Bonnie and I'm clipping up for social media, it's worded in a much um I don't know, a way which I know is going to go viral as opposed to a long-winded way of me and you just sat down having a a general chitchat.
>> And who calls you Tia? >> Um like my friends, my family, sometimes my subscribers. Um but sometimes they call me Bonnie as well.
Like it's not a oh you have to call me T or you have to call me Bonnie. It's >> okay. It's not >> it's not like a different like they're not different people.
They're not different personalities. It's not like a different identity. It's really just the same just two different names.
>> No. Like Yeah. A lot of my friends and family that have known me from before this call me Tia because, you know, that's the name they've known the longest.
>> But then a lot of people just call me Bonnie. And it's not >> I don't think, oh my god, no, don't call me Bonnie because I'm not physically filming today. It's it's the same thing.
And obviously a lot of people that know me from social media refer to me as Bonnie. >> Now you've been described as one of the most polarizing women on the internet. You're the most Googled as well um in the world.
When the cameras are off, how do you actually see yourself? um normal, which I know is shocking to most people, but I'm not walking around doing the crazy things you've seen on the documentary every single day. They're sort of oneoffs and even as Bonnie, >> they're not every day.
It would honestly break me if I did that every day because my body wouldn't handle that. And it's not something I would enjoy if I was to do that every single day. It's a one-off occasion.
But when I'm not doing that, I love going on holiday, like free diving, anything outdoorsy, just, you know, I'm not glued to my phone all the time. Yes, is a massive part of my job, which is online and on a laptop, >> but then the other part of me loves honestly being in the water, anything to do with the sea. >> Okay.
Now, when I watched your dock, I mean, I was, you know, texting girlfriends at the same time, you know, sharing outrage or shock. Like, there was, you know, so much that I didn't even know what to expect watching the do. Um, I haven't watched your content before.
Um, >> and it started lots of conversations between me and my girls, me and my partner, even me and my family. And I'm just curious to know what made you do the Dco. Was there something like was it just an opportunity?
You you sort of describe a lot of what you do is driven by money. So, you know, I'm assuming that maybe the opportunity was driven by that. >> No, money was not a factor in this at all.
It was more and I don't know if the documentary to be honest truly showed this because I protected the people that one queue up for me and the people that I speak to so much. I wanted to protect them because I know how horrible the media can be at time. But it came just after freshers in the UK, which is very similar to your schoolies.
And I was like, I wish people could see the bigger picture. I wish people could see the people that queue up for me, the people I actually interact with, and how it's not this really dirty, disgusting environment, which, you know, I would have assumed it was like before I was in the industry or I would have assumed it was like until I actually experienced it myself. So when the opportunity for documentary um was brought to my attention, I was like I would love to show the bigger picture.
>> You know I feel any around me that your name is mentioned it really is straight away it's it is judgment and it is you know yeah totally >> and when you do interviews like this do you care what people or what what I might think of you? No, you're already going to have your, you know, judgment and it doesn't really bother me if you like me or not. >> Like, if you met me in person, you'd say, you know what, she was respectful.
She was polite. >> And you wouldn't be able to actually say a bad word about me. You might not agree with all my beliefs and my opinions on things, but I would offer you a drink.
I would off to get you lunch. I'd open the door. I'd be polite.
I'd be respectful. M >> and that's how my parents have brought me up to be and that's how I'll always be. But no, you probably will disagree with my opinions.
But would I ever do anything to hurt you? No. >> Interesting.
And I mean, whose opinion matters to you? >> There's not like one single person's opinion which I'm like, "Oh my god, their their opinions everything to me. " just as general as as long as the people I am sleeping with and the people I'm interact with interacting with remain happy and they're enjoying what I'm able to offer in the experience with me >> then that's what matters to me like I'm not doing this for the women like I saw a Tik Tok this morning she was an Australian said she just watched the documentary she was like oh I wish Bonnie Blue would stop asking for all women to support her and then she said this this and this just to make it clear I have never asked women to support me if they do great but also no problem.
I've never done this for the women >> as I've said many times. I've done this for husbands. I've done it because I want to do it.
Like my focus is not the women that are involved in this process. >> And do you remember the first time or the first moment you actually realized that you could make shock your money or your currency? >> Um >> do you remember that moment?
>> It was schoolies. Um, I can remember I lived on the Gold Coast at the time and I'd started to get comments about my content not being that relatable or they couldn't they couldn't watch it and imagine themsel because before that I was only sleeping with other content creators and you know a lot of these other content creators you know perfect bodies packing quite big down there and for the average person that's not what they look like. So imagining themsel in that video with me became a lot harder.
Mhm. >> So then when schoolies came around, I was like, these people would offer me such a variety. Do you mean some of them are going to last seconds and sometimes maybe they're going to struggle or they might not be able to get hard, they're going to be nervous.
And the interaction I'd have with them would be real raw and relatable >> to my average subscriber. Um, and I can remember I put a message out on my Instagram story at the time and just said, "If you're 18 plus and going to schoolies and you would like to film content with me, drop me a message. " And within 24 hours, it really escalated.
It was like in Daily Mail, um, other articles. I'd started speaking about it. I'd started doing radio shows.
And I didn't realize at the time what a big deal me sleeping with one 18 year olds was because teen had always been the biggest category. So I couldn't work out. Especially if everything as everyone says is equal.
How suddenly all these women had a massive uproar with me doing it with an 18year-old. But no not an issue with the male porn stars that had done it with school girls of 18 age. Um, but it was more the media, the way the media reacted and how it suddenly became a big story.
I was like, "Okay, wow. " The more obviously people speak about me, the more I'm going to be able to say, "Hey, I've also got a video for you to purchase and >> I can earn money off the back of it. " >> Wow.
And I mean, I I couldn't find where you, if you've said this before, but was there a certain time where you realized that gang bangs were something that you were actually into? Yeah, it happened to a certain degree by accident. So, I did schoolies in November 2023, and then I went to spring break, which is like an the American version.
>> Yeah. And I'd slept with like gosh a lot of people during the spring break period. And it was my last day at the hotel where like a lot of these spring breakers go and I'd seen a lot of them during the hotel like in the hotel during the day and they'd say, "Oh, I haven't had chance to sleep with you or I've messaged you and you haven't replied.
" So I was like, "Okay, I'm going to just share my room number online and I'll sleep see and sleep with as many as I can. " And I did that for hours and hours and it got to a point where I was like, "Okay, I'm really tired now. " And there was still 19 people in the queue.
So I just said, "Did you all just want to come in together? " And there was a frat house. And yeah, that was my first first gang bang.
And I actually really enjoyed it cuz I didn't know if I'd handle it or if I'd be up for it, if I'd be turned on by it. But to be honest, my first experience was more funny than it was like sexual. like they was laughing, they was high-fiving, some of them couldn't get hard, some of them was barely lasting longer than a minute.
And it's gen and I've said it before and I know it's so hard to picture because I genuinely wouldn't be able to picture it until I did it myself, but everyone was having a good time. It wasn't dirty. It didn't seem wrong because it's not wrong.
And it was just a really good experience for them and for me. And that was my first experience in a gang bang. >> Wow.
It's um it's it's honestly such a strange I'm going to be completely honest. Like it's such a strange feeling for me to be sitting here having this conversation and hearing you you know even just the way that you communicate about your first experience and just how like nonchalant it is. It's just like the most wild thing for me to hear, but for you it's just you know it's it's just crazy to me.
>> Like obviously for me it seems normal and I still get like oh my god it's crazy. Like prior to this I'd never had a one night stand. I hadn't slept with more than five people.
And my friends, I would just get with people on a night out and I think, "Oh my god, I can't believe you've just done that. " >> And then suddenly I'm saying me having sex with 19 college boys is, >> you know, just a normal bonding experience. Like I do get it.
>> It's wild. And you said in the doco that you say no to 90% of what your team suggests. What kind of things have you said no to?
>> Cuz for me, I'm like, is there anything that this girl wouldn't do? One, I don't do back door. Um, and second of all, it's just ideas sometimes when we're chatting like, you know, what what could we do next?
What would be a good idea? Um, but yeah, it's hard to list exactly like what I've said no to, but just as a whole, if I think I'm not going to be turned on by the experience or I'm not going to have a fun time doing it. There's loads of things I'm aware would go really viral, but if I'm not going to enjoy it, then then what's the point?
Okay. So, it really is more it's not just about the act of or you know the production or you know them having fun and them being pleasured. It's really like you're also wanting to have a good time too.
>> Yeah. These like a good balance like I recently did a UK tour like was being sat in an uncomfortable van for like 5 hours a day driving the really fun part. Not always, but was celebrating with uni students, having fun, and getting pleasure from it.
Yeah, that was fun. So, it's just you've got to get the perfect balance of things that are going to go viral, things that are going to get spoken about on social media, >> also being happy in the process. Cuz if you're not happy in the process, >> for sure.
Like, >> it's as simple as what's the point. >> Yeah. No, and I get that.
And is there one person in the world that you do want to have sex with? Oh, I always thought Chris Hemsworth was really attractive. Every time I went to Byron Bay, I'd be thinking maybe today's the day.
>> I mean, yeah, he's he's pretty gorgeous. >> Yeah. >> And is there someone that you would never have sex with?
>> Oh. Um I mean they say never say never. So to be honest, if it benefited me and I was above legal age, like no problem.
Like if someone said to me, "Oh, if you sleep with this person in Australia, you'll get your visa back. >> I'll see you there. " >> And that's funny.
And on that thought, actually, I was just thinking about back to Chris Hemsworth. Have you had any like highprofile celebrities um obviously you probably can't say names, but have you had any high-profile celebrities try to get in touch to catch up? >> Oh, for sure.
But I don't see any interest in it because I've even like met with celebrities beforehand and it's been like proposed as more of like a social media thing that we can both get content >> and then it's not that at all. It's they they just want sex and I don't give it to them. Um because if it was something for me and they was going to post their face on that sex tape and they was also going to say, "Hey, I've just made a sex tape with Bonnie Blue.
" >> 100% I'll do it. I don't care how many followers you've got or how much money you've got, unless there's something in it for me in terms of pleasure and you know, I'm able to sell the video and tell everyone about it. >> Really not interested.
But then a lot of other girls that will think what I do is disgusting and oh god, I wouldn't do that would more than happily sometimes sleep with someone, flirt with someone to either get a free drink or get a shout out on Instagram. And don't get me wrong, that's fine. But I wouldn't do that.
>> So after you might do a sex challenge or a stunt, >> um you know, do you have ways that maybe you cleanse your soul and your body? Um cuz I remember in the doco like you got really unwell after you did your challenge. >> Um I think you had like a virus of some sort.
And the way I was seeing it is like I'm big with, you know, energy transfers. When I meet people, when I even used to sleep with people, like I felt like we would pick up and carry other people's energy. Is there like rituals or things that you do once you've finished, you know, participating in something?
>> You know, bleach head to toe. Make sure I'm really clean. >> No, is honestly nothing.
>> No, like it honestly varies. Like, yeah, I have about a very long shower afterwards. Um, honestly, I'll come back, have a shower, have a Pepsi Max, put on a good film, >> had super noodles after my last one, >> and that's it.
like there isn't a set set way I relax. Um if I'm close to Nottingham, which is where my pets are, I'll spend loads of time with them. Whereas if I'm in like London, it's probably just a shower, Pepsi Max, and a good movie.
>> So, it's really just like you've completely almost disassociated like from the moment that you've finished working and you've gone home to have a shower and have your Pepsi, it's like what you've just done doesn't even cross your mind. See, it's not that I've like disassociated from it. It's just it's tiring.
It's like anything. If you've gone to the gym, if you've gone at the beach all day, you want to get back, have a shower, have a cold drink. And that's really what it is like for me.
Like when I did the thousand that evening, I sat and watched loads of the content back because I hadn't seen any of it from anyone else's point of view. >> All I'd seen is blue ski mask, >> sweat, fluids, just about everything dripping on my face for the last 12 hours. all the stories that other people got to see on TikTok and everything else that had gone viral like someone bringing their mom to the event and I hadn't seen or heard any of this.
So, I was really excited to get back and watch what had actually gone off that day and all the behind the scenes because >> I, you know, I wasn't aware. >> The biggest question that kept coming up was around, I guess, you as a person. Um, and people want to know you more and they also want to understand your brain cuz I know that you've said that, you know, you think and you feel and everything's very different.
>> Yeah. >> Can you tell me a little bit more about that? When did you know that maybe you thought differently?
Um, it's not necessarily that I think differently to sort of everybody else, but in terms of especially the industry I'm in. As the biggest difference between me and everyone else, I'm a [ __ ] but I'm a [ __ ] with a brain. A lot of people in this industry are just [ __ ] And that's no problem.
You're in you're definitely in the right industry. >> But there's clearly a marketing aspect. There's clearly a business behind it as well.
And that's very much what I understand. I didn't do this job because I'm stupid and I don't understand other things. >> Um, you know, when you see sex workers, sometimes it's because, you know, they don't want to do anything else and this is easy work and they don't really have the brain capacity to do something else.
>> No problem. But then someone like myself, I do, you know, I am intelligent to a certain degree. Depends what you ask.
Um, but I understand what to do. I understand how to sell myself. I understand the industry I'm in.
And the main thing is I have a connection with subscribers which I'm able to, you know, monetize off and I'm able to to really expand on. >> So, are you really sitting there cuz look, I've got friends in the industry as well and I I understand how it all works. Um, >> are you sitting there, you know, communicating with your subscribers?
Like, are you that person that's sitting there messaging them all? >> Yeah. So, I'll do a lot of FaceTimes, a lot of customs, cuz to me, that's the way I'm able to get to know them a lot better.
>> And I know people say AI is, you know, good and stuff, but I don't think AI could replicate me on a video call. >> I have a a very random, vulnerable question for you. >> Yeah.
>> When was the last time that you cried? >> I think I got asked this question before and it was probably like a month or six weeks ago. Um, >> well, someone's asked you that recently.
>> Yeah. I've got I always get asked the questions. Oh, when did she?
>> I know. So, sorry. It's not an original question.
Um, yeah, I'm I mean, it's no secret. I'm going through a divorce at the moment, and it can be definitely difficult at times. So, yeah, probably regarding the divorce, >> but I used to answer the question really wrong when people used to ask me if I was emotional.
I'd always say no because I know everyone was referring to me crying or breaking down and being tearful. Mhm. >> I'm not emotional in that aspect because I'm always just honestly happy and I've always got a smile on my face.
I'm always having a good time. But I know during interviews it doesn't always come across that way. I' can be dead behind the eyes as many people would say.
>> And it's more because I'm being interrogated. I'm being asked questions where I'm having to defend myself. But >> so I look very straightfaced and I look, >> you know, I'm concentrated.
I'm ready to give you an answer back. I'm ready to be sharp. And >> now you said in the documentary that you don't have many friends and um you know I I think about I put myself in your shoes when I was watching it thinking like I just don't think that my friends would be supportive if this was me.
>> Um and do you feel like that bothers you not having as many girlfriends or friends? >> No. So I've never had like a big group of friends.
I've always just had close friends but those group of friends are >> the ones you could call on or lean on for anything. So I think in the documentary it's more portrayed as like oh my god feel sorry for me type of thing and done all dramatically and oh she doesn't leave the house and that isn't the case. And how do you process when people invent entire identities about you?
Um I know I recently saw well not recently it was a while ago now that they said that you were trans. >> Oh yeah. >> So how how do you process that?
Do you like clap back to the haters? Do you, you know, publicly make announcements or do you just like say it, forget it, and move on? >> Sometimes I will I mean, I don't really make statements as, as such.
Sometimes I I will entertain it. Sometimes I'll go along with it, and I just find it amusing half the time. I think, how could I be offended by that?
I'm not bothered if people think my I've seen videos of when it's like analyzing my facial structure and it's like, yeah, she's a man. and I'm really not bothered because if you've got the time to sit and do that, I've gone and done something much better with my time. >> And the second most common question um was about >> the societal impact of your work.
>> So I'm just I mean I'm also very curious to know when do you feel most empowered? Um, I mean I definitely obviously feel empowered when I do like gang bangs. Like I'm surrounded by loads of men giving me giving me nothing but compliments and they're all there for me.
They're as much as people think they disrespect me. Those men are really respectful to me. Um, but I wouldn't say there's a certain time where I've gone like, "Okay, this is the most I feel empowered.
" Or, "Oh, if I do this, I'm going to feel really empowered. " It's not a a feeling I chase, but there's been times I definitely feel like, wow, I feel really empowered right now. I feel really strong.
I'm really proud >> of exactly what I'm doing. >> It's, you know, if that feeling comes along, great. If it doesn't, it's not something I'm chasing.
>> Do you think I mean, you you stated there that it's it's being surrounded by men, you know, especially in maybe that gang bang scenario, like that's when you feel that empowerment. Um, and then when I sort of like think of that comment and how you, you know, strategically do your content targeting at women, >> like >> it surprises me that, well, I don't know if really surprises me, but is there something here that you just don't really like women don't feel like they should be empowering you? Do you not feel empowered by women?
>> Um, one, I think women moan a lot, they [ __ ] a lot, and they've not got a lot better to do. Um, which people say, "Oh, how can I say that? " Just go on TikTok.
You don't have the men sat there going, "This girl's done this. This girl's worn this. Look at this girl's skin in this video.
" Like, they they say they love to support women. Yeah. I don't ever see men picking apart men, how women pick women apart.
>> And I'm not saying I have an issue with that, >> but I'm also not part of the problem. I yes, I will make generic videos, but I don't pick out and use someone's family photo and say, "Hey, I'm coming after your husband. " Or, "Hey, you've not sucked your husband off.
" It's very generic. And if you feel targeted by that, sometimes it's because, you know, it's hitting close to home. And if it's hitting close to home, that's not my problem.
>> I mean, you you seem to genuinely love what you do. Um, you know, it's it seems that you genuinely love your fans and you love being accessible. you love being adored, desired on such, you know, an extreme level.
And some may even call that narcissistic. Do you think that it is? >> No, not at all.
Everyone would prefer me to be traumatized and upset and go come forward and say, "Oh my god, yes, I have daddy issues. " That's not the case. People are more frustrated that I've not broken.
You've not seen me get upset. You've just continued to see me push on, do more and more. M >> and everyone's, you know, they want they're wanting me to be hurt and they say they support me and they say they're doing this because they're speaking on their behalf and making a TikTok about me cuz they're really concerned about me.
But in the same sentence, they're fueling hate towards me. Now, the thing I really did admire about I guess you in the documentary, um it would probably be your work ethic. >> Um I'm also a really hard worker, so I can appreciate and respect different levels though.
Um, do you always have you always had a knack for marketing and business? >> Um, yeah. So, I started work at a young age.
I've always liked money, always wanted freedom. And it was never sort of the money I was chasing, which I sort of found out when I started this job. It was the lifestyle that money can provide.
I know when they they say money doesn't buy happiness, but for me, one, I've got expensive taste, and two, I want a lot of freedom in life, and >> time is generally what costs the most. Being able to have more time in your day, you need to be making money elsewhere so that you can take take time off, whether that's with family, friends, or future partner, whatever you want to do, you need to be able to have money to to not be sat in an office or to be sat and have an employee or being told when to work. Um, but I did recruitment for 5 years and I wouldn't say that taught me a lot, but it taught me hard work.
It taught me enough to know I do not want to be sat in an office for the rest of my life sitting in rush hour 20 days annual leave having to ask to near enough go to the toilet or to be able to ask can I go to the dentist because my tooth is absolutely throbbing. I was like this isn't happiness. This isn't what I want to do.
I've actually got more respect for myself >> now than what I did when I sat in an office. >> And when you shared how when you create Tik Toks, you know, the first sort of 5 to 10 seconds might be targeted at the women. So, cuz you know that they'll show their partners or, you know, whoever's nearby.
I was really interested, I guess, in the strategy around this. And does all of your content that you sort of plan, do you always have like a strategy behind everything with the team? Um, or does it sort of just come to mind?
>> It's sort of like a breakdown. So, I'll decide what the event is. For example, if it's, okay, I want to sleep with 1,000 men and then it's breaking it down of how is that possible?
Because you need to get people to turn up. So it's a breakdown of one once you've got the venue organized the next part is okay how we going to get those people there what Tik Toks are we going to do one that doesn't get reported well obviously they do get reported but so that it complies to different you know for example on Twitter I can literally post fullon porn and say hey meet me at 12:00 at this time and that's fine on that platform things like Tik Tok you've got to be a bit more clever with your wording um and also So the men aren't sat there all the time on Tik Tok. Yes, they'll have a scroll, but I know I mean I do it.
I'll honestly sit there for well over an hour and I'm still scrolling on Tik Tok. So you've got to make Tik Toks that you know people are going to talk about. They're going to clip.
They're going to get frustrated. So using words like if you've not pleasured your husband or if your wife hasn't done this then let me do it. And they're all videos which the women are going to continue to watch.
push it to get more views and then their husband will eventually see it. >> Interesting. >> But I say I've I've said it many times and the women still fall for it on repeat.
So I think I've warned you and you've still done it. So how many times um are you going to be clueless? >> Mhm.
And I know that there is a bit of speculation online around feuds. Um, are the feuds genuine or are they to dive attention? >> Um, I think there's no like frustration from my side aside from the copying.
It's more they know mentioning my name gets views and it's the same for like bigger creators and smaller creators. I don't have to make my personality about somebody else or go I don't have to name drop because I've built a name and a business off my own back. Other people it's not as easy or other people have to be associated somebody else to grow.
And I think that's with like not just sex work that can be in any industry. >> And how do you feel about the copycats? Do you take it as a compliment?
>> I mean of course it's flattery. I don't know how I don't know why more people don't copy to be honest. I clearly run a very successful business.
However, copying the business compared to you can't copy exactly how I am because like I said, I do this because I do get a lot of happiness from it and I'm okay mentally. But for a lot of people, it's different. And I don't ever lie and say it's easy because it's not.
A lot of people really struggle. And that's the only bit I find hard is like I'm not going to be responsible if people get hurt trying to copy cuz I see stunts that movie stars do. I don't go and copy and then think why can't I do it?
>> Everyone is different and people need to learn their limits. >> And do you feel like you've changed the industry? >> For sure.
Before people would just, you know, flirt at the idea of sleeping with a fan and that's just one fan. Now, a casual 10,00 gang bang seems like why would you not do that? You know, it's the new normal.
But no, it's it's obviously not the new normal, but sleeping with people and sharing your location is not unheard of, but now unheard of now. Whereas 2 years ago, >> sharing your location and giving them a, you know, a blue ski mask, it was unheard of. And after everything that you've I guess achieved in you know your business and your career I mean >> from an outsider we would say that you know you've made a lot of money and >> is that you know have you reached like how do you measure success?
um being happy and it's I I'm it must seem boring because I say that a lot but before it was oh my god imagine if I earn this much money imagine if I earn this once I hit a certain point even once that money doubled my life didn't change um I just realized to get a better balance like when I first started this I was having sex most days or like every other day and I was trying to film as much content as possible Now, I don't have sex nowhere near as much. I don't The events you see because they're spoken about so much. It must seem like I have sex all the time.
And that's really not the case. Um, but now I have a much better balance. So, to me, that's how I measure success.
It's next week I'll probably go away on holiday so I can focus on filming solo content. I have the luxury of honestly traveling the world and still being able to work. And to me that's that is success and a lot of happiness comes along the way.
>> And I know that you've wanted to be a mother in your past. Is that still something that you want? >> I think so.
Before I was very fixated on being a mom and having children. Obviously, yes, I would have loved to have fallen pregnant. But I'm actually really grateful.
It sort of didn't happen because it was the wrong time in my life. And I think because I was unhappy, but I didn't realize I was unhappy. I was fixated on, okay, well, I'm married.
I thought I was in a happy relationship. I've just relocated to Australia. Okay, clearly the reason I feel a bit of a gap is because it's time for children.
And I think a lot of women feel that but sort of don't realize that it's probably not children they're they're looking for. It's their actual life and they're probably not that happy themselves. >> Um but yeah, if children happen in the future, amazing, but it's at the moment it's definitely not focus.
>> And I mean your comment section do love to ask this one. And I'm also curious to know, if you did have a daughter, would you want her to follow in your footsteps or even see your content? >> They're probably going to see it.
I'm not stupid. I know what online's like. They'll probably get shown it.
But things are changing very, very quickly. It's more common, like, you know, especially from when I was at school. I wouldn't choose it for them, but I'd be more than supportive if they did it.
they'd have obviously the opportunity and the money to do whatever they wanted in life, but if this is what they wanted to do, of course, I'd support them. It's more something I'd be thinking, okay, are they strong enough? Are they aware they're going to get hate?
Are they aware bad things can happen and they could get, you know, with most search women on the world and everyone's talking crap about them a lot of the time. So, it'd be more just cuz I want to protect him. >> But if it's what they wanted, >> Mhm.
I'd be um yeah, nothing but supportive. >> And Bonnie, is there an end goal with everything that you're doing? >> Uh, no, not really.
And this isn't because this is an interview or I actually know the answer. I'm just not sharing it. I really don't know.
If I stopped enjoying this in a few weeks time, I would stop. I've got the money. I've got more than enough things I can be getting up to.
But at the moment, I don't see why I should stop. So, there's no there's no end goal. I'm always going to have sex, and I'm pretty sure I'm always going to want to film it, so why not post it?
>> And what are you most proud of yourself for? Oh, well actually the woman I helped a woman and I paid for her IVF journey and she messaged me a few days ago to say she is pregnant and she's due on the 9th of May which I think is absolutely beautiful and I'm really glad I was able to help in some way. >> Now um I've just we've got to unfortunately get to the end.
Um, so we'll go straight to some quickfire stunt qu questions that I had written out. >> Um, okay. How do you prepare and what afterare is there after a big stunt?
>> Making sure I've shaved properly cuz I always miss spots. Um, yeah, shave, moisturizer, make sure I'm hydrated, and then afterwards a Pepsi Max and a good movie. >> Fair enough.
What's the craziest stunt that you've ever done? >> 157. Yeah.
Yep. It doesn't have to be sexual, but what gives you adrenaline? >> Free diving.
>> Free diving. Have you ever felt like you were in danger? >> No.
>> Was the record about proving something to the world or to yourself? >> Probably both. I didn't really think that deep into it.
It was I wanted to do it and I did it. Like a lot of the things I do these I know people want a bigger meaning and a bigger purpose. Sometimes you just do something because you want to do it.
There's not always um a reason. >> How do you ever stop trying to oneup yourself or other creators? >> Other creators aren't a competition, but I'll always one up myself.
I will always want to do bigger and better. So, >> and my last little question, how do you decide where you travel for these stunts? >> Um, where's got the most 18 year olds?
Fair enough. And Bonnie Blue, what's next for you? >> I honestly don't know just yet.
I'm back to the drawing board. I have just finished a UK um tour of the UK, and I only finished that a few days ago. So, next week's going to be filled with solo content and catching up on all the stuff I've not done over the last few weeks.
But, I don't know. What would you suggest? And retiring isn't an option.
>> Yeah, I was going to say maybe taking a really nice long break or something. >> Just don't disappear off social media for 10 years, please. >> No, I'm I'm I'm not in any position to say.
And you know, I feel like you definitely keep the world on its toes. And you also keep me on my toes. Um and you know, even after chatting to you, I'm not really sure to make of it all still.
Um, but look, I know that I definitely won't forget this chat and >> thank you for sharing and coming on and yeah, really appreciate it. >> Yeah. Well, thank you for the conversation.
I really do appreciate it. >> Yeah, I'm definitely still processing, but I hope that you guys I don't know, I'm not going to use the word enjoyed, but like I don't know, got a little bit of insight. And I hope that some of your questions were answered like mine were cuz I'm a curious cucumber.
And um I'll see you guys next week. Bye.