Hikmat Wehbi Podcast #168 Salem Khammas سالم خماس

[Music] W yo mark9 they really don't think we can keep doing this in English maybe much better okay all right it's very rare where you see you know with with imti or Arabic look English English let's continue English we can we can shift if you want I I Translate [Music] and they're very educated highly smart highly they're proactive in the society yeah yeah you are promoting your country you are promoting uh actually this new generation is everyone is educated and I I don't I don't think also they still have this uh Vision this of only

deserts and camels and and about Arabs in general I I don't think it was it was in Hollywood once in a time yeah once Because they this is what they know and they came here and they make movies and they this is how they promote Arabs it's only desert and and and camels I don't think so now they promotion now they need our help now great let's I love the idea of what what what made something special in know to own a credibility it's very important benti okay he's he's a huge developer uh but until

he got the his credibility has to collaborate with a Big brand uh M like uh like Mercedes and Jacob and co uh and and like money does not give you credibility exactly you know uh to build an name you need time and if you have the money see like they needed to join venture or collab with a with a with a credible name and this is really something you cannot make with money it needs money and time and proven uh success exactly exactly I mean uh honestly you've seen a lot of people Over here they

came they tried their best level to reach to the level that they wanted but they never succeed why because now you're comparing yourself to majority now the majority are successful majority are on the top of of you know of the peak so when you come over here either you you have to be different unique right something which is not to the Norms of the people that they have seen so if you do a building G+ 100 it's okay right if you do 200 What's new right you do something with completely red glass people will laugh

it doesn't make any any any changes because they're used to it right it's like going to India and you see bicycle everyone has bicycle like it doesn't make any difference so you come to UA and you come and say I'm driving a Mercedes everyone will laugh at you right it doesn't make any nothing it's Unique nothing is new so when you come into a real estate and you want to do Something which is completely unique right you have to do something which has not been done before so so high respect to benti I I really

any congrat on on the new creative way uh change the mindset of most of the developers that no matter how smart how clever and how you're trying to be creative in changing the design or changing the colors or you know the Heights or whatever now it's normal so for you to be a different you need to collab now when when he collab Made the collaboration with different type of brands that added bigger value to his existence and he's been there for a long time his father was there and they have done a good job in

the market right and they have done couple of buildings and so on but it didn't give them that perspective didn't give them that uh uniqueness right they had the uniqueness in the cars but the moment they they saw that their brand names matching to them it gave that luxurious Look you got my point that's the only change it's the same thing benti he's the one who's constructing he's the one who's building he's the one who's doing everything right from ATZ because Muhammad I think he's a designer mhm the architectural designer so he knows what he's

doing so this is nothing new so it's only uh about the collab so when he added that brand name on top of of his name it made it unique and made it so huge and and conglomerate yeah yeah he Just wanted The Branding to to to add a value to add a value exactly he like wearing you know like wearing a shirt like it's it's like wearing a candura and then you add Gucci on it yes it makes a huge difference right or adding an LV on a kandura on aat right so the price change

I mean it's the same thing it's the same the moment you put that logo right authenticated logo on anything then it makes a huge difference on a bag on a shoes on a shirt it's the Same thing if you go to the tailor the same tailor the same textile the same everything but it's only about the logo or the brand that you add on that product and it change and then he considered that building is a product and he added that logo on top of it and then voila price is doubled this is a big

thing why we are driven to to the brand name you it's the same product once you put the the brand name things will change it's the trust it's I think It's the status we are trying to get you know that status level so exactly you attract you attracted highend brand the moment you attract high that mean it's important that mean it's Unique that mean it's luxurious so that you have reached to the Excellence right so when you go it's like when you're traveling a first class people look at you in a different way when you

travel in your economy people you could be the same person by the way the same person you That's the that's that's the perception of the people the way you appear the way you present yourself right you are the same person you could be a billionaire go to the economy nobody will pay attention to you you can be a billionaire go to the first class and people will look at you right they will pay attention to that so this is the same thing exactly even if you can don't have money you can how many fake people

there are around us also Sal so many so Many honestly today the new generation and and the the social media generation uh they've been driven in the in the wrong perception which which make me feel sorry honestly uh because people they now pay attention to the looks they pay attention to the status they pay attention to the to how you present yourself they don't care about what you have they don't care about how you've built yourself what's the story behind your success um what's your background They don't care they look at the end picture the

conclusion and this is what makes them you know feel less feel disappointed and and I can see 70% of the followers they're into the disappointment mode right very few where they take that as a granted and they try to improve themselves they're trying to reach that self uh reach to that level I'm sorry and then and then they fail because they don't understand the whole story behind every person who who Who's In that position with that high you know High image that he he he appeared on and make any sense to them but also it

might be that they are following someone who's fake and then they are actually getting uh yeah depressed because like they are looking at on people on social media and thinking everyone is happy or everyone is Rich but it's not true yeah not everyone is Rich and not everyone is happy on social media so there is a lot of fake image there and and just the Moment you start to compare yourself with other people on social media you'll get depressed and then you want to uh be in the same stat and it will not work brother

I mean this is the this is the I mean the sory part or Theo the sad story that that I see every time unfortunately majority also the a majority of the people or the business people in the business whenever they do business with other party they don't do something called due Diligence I always advise my followers my friends my co-workers whomever you always in every single step do due diligence right even though with your friendship I mean this guy approached me being very nice to me being very humble very why what's the reason what's behind

that humbleness smess taking care and you know being so so kind to me for no reason there is there is a story behind it so you do when you do the due diligence you understand oh okay he's Coming close to me he wants a job he wants something else the same thing when someone text you on the on the Instagram saying hi you're nice or whatever give you all that compliment the end of the day if you if you open up that message and then you say yes please can you help me with my family

and so on so they do all these to attract you right to get your attention then the moment you they got your attention they they come up with the real face so the same thing now When you follow all of these high you know rich people billionaires or trillionair when you look at them why would a billionaire nothing in his platform shows accept cars money luxurious Brands and that's it doesn't talk about the the success story doesn't show his business doesn't show his progress doesn't show all of these stuff they only show money why would

Rich why why don't we see Bill Gates chose his cash on his hand or Lamborghini why Don't we see Ellen musk showing his house and his cribs and his luxurious lifestyle he doesn't show that he shows the richness in on these people right the their the level of Education the level of creativeness the product the what they have given the achievement what they have given to the society right look at that so when you see someone in the social media doesn't give you that perception then I'm Che what he's sing you that's what he's selling

You and a lot of people they come with the tick mark and 33 million texting me like why would you text me if you successful what what do you need from me right you're already into the peak of of your life right why would you send me a message for what reason so we pay attention to that I never open this type of a message because I know what he wants right and then the moment I check the the the post and I see one post cryptocurrency I immediately understand What he wants from me you

got my point so this is why I always advise my followers please pay attention to the details look into the profile thank God today the social media before imagine I mean people underestimate my age so so so we talking about in the 80s or the 90s you can't you can't dig into those information today the social media gave you that leverage you got my my point it gave you all the leverage so you can dig into that person you check the name you Go to the Google you go into the YouTube you go into the

all the social media platform and you can find information right and immediately the moment I put your name and I put a word of scam it gives me millions of other things the moment I put your name with a word called achievement it shows all your achievement right that that's easy the plat the the social media platform has given us the access exactly it's it's easy to know now we have the technology To scan and to to see who's uh real and who's who's fake salm there is uh I watch your podcast and there is

um a part where talking about um some uh you were affected by the or or influenced by people who were working in USA and you were like little bit like saying okay like everyone works there in your University the all the students and you came from a rich family but when when you when you were there you find out like everyone should work should start From working even if they have money they were working normal jobs and you said we are a little bit uh spoiled as kids as UAE kids and I I feel like

this is very brave from imarati to say that because it's like very empowering that um it's like even when you when you uh when you talk and contradict or or or um you know say something that it's sometimes people doesn't feel like uh saying it and it's it's very brave from you to say that I saw it on your in your Your podcast what changed your mind and how did you uh after doing that you started to work in the bank and then what Chang your mind you said I want to work first and then

to be an entrepreneur yeah I mean um all my life i' I've seen uh uh you know we're talking about the 80s and and and the '90s we've seen majority of of the Arabs were in the high positions and all of the time when they talk to each other they talk that you know I'm a manager I'm a director and so on and very few VI that been utilized in the uh you're saying the um the general jobs let's say in the restaurants in the transportation we never saw Arabs at that time or UAE Nationals

working on that so when I when I traveled and I went for the studies uh in the states it was so awkward for me to see young teenagers working in uh in McDonald's in Kentucky and other restaurants and the schools and so on and it's always and it always was so Weird for me to digest to understand why would parents send their kids to go and work are they that poor are they that needy does really they there into that level of poverty they everyone works what was you know what was the story behind that

so it gave me that courtesy and gave me that Curiosity to understand what's what's the story behind it so the moment that I got I I kept applying for jobs while I was studying then finally I got the job in the school in the University so when I started working in University it was very awkward for for the rest of the Arabs I mean the khis sais to come and see suddenly an an UAE iMat you working in the University with the uniform and stuff like that and it was very weird for them it gave

me that that motive it gave me that momentum and I I felt so proud right people they look at me and it was so awkward for them that for such an imarati Arab working and they came to me it's like do you Need money it's like no it wasn't about money it was about it was about all about me to understand what what's going on what what's the society about how the American dream they're living right and it taught me a lot it taught me time management it taught me that the responsibility taking care of

myself and gaining the money you know with my dedication and hard work and this is how it changed my personality I wanted to learn more because majority of the Arabs When they go to when they go abroad they always together and they never learn they never educate themselves they never change very few where they you know isolate themselves segregate themselves and then they educate and teach and so on so this is what I wanted as like I don't want to be around UA Nationals or Arabs or khis or whatever because I know once I go

back they're there're waiting for me they're my friends they're my families whatever it is right I need to Know the new people I need to know the expert I need to see their mindset how they are successful how they are reaching to the level that you know where they are and why whenever they come to the GCC country they've been selected immediately because they have they they have their past experience since when they are kids so this is how when they come at the age of 35 or 25 they're highly professional and they understand their

time management their Responsibility and and when they do the job they do it perfectly and this is what where Arab they lack of that uh you know that that title on on on on their on their CV so when I studied and and when I worked in the University it changed my personality 300% and when I gained the money by myself it gave me that power it gave me that that motive so if I'm able to do it at this age while I'm studying then I can do it when I'm back home by myself Without

no one's support without my family's support and thank God I've done that and I gained a lot of money and I did also aside hustles in in the states where I I gained also different type of businesses in in the state while I was studying I was the only one who was doing that and I gained good money alhamdulillah I got that money back put it in an investment in a share um I remember in a cement factory uh it was like below one dirham share right and I I left the money over there and

by time it went and grow and I took that money back and I start investing here and there alhamdulillah touchwood it gave me a good a good push in in in in going into the uh business sectors so the work uh you worked not because you needed money you just want to work 9 to5 just really to challeng to challenge yourself and to that you understood that this is something very important do you feel like that some Um I don't want to say like some rich maybe people who are are not uh taking any position

to so we don't put it in a specific nationality like we like that do we need to work really um um like normal jobs 9 to5 and cuz for for I mean for me from my background everybody works yeah uh salm we like nobody doesn't take any job from the beginning even even if he's not graduate like everyone should work should hustle should be you know in a tough job and Then until they are graduate until they are like uh you know uh have a degree and then start to move to any any business they

want um to be honest with you my advice to to those people I mean the billionaires trillionaires or millionaires whenever they let's talk about the family business so this is the perception that the family business when they when I mean when they reach to the level that they're successful and that they want their children the the new Generation to come and take over this is where they fail because they they they think that the education can take you to that level no matter how Highly Educated you are if you are not if you're not having

an experience in the business and you've been not slapped backstabbed and you know you dirtied your hand in the business you will never succeed education doesn't take you to that level experience takes you to that level so if you don't put your children your kids or Brother or family or daughter whomever before giving them the position in your family business you have to throw them in the in the in the uh you know in the dust you have to throw them in the mud so that they can learn they can experience they can see the

real actual life of how to work and how to get the sweat and how to gain a a penny or gain a Durham before you come and giving them that congrat you give them all that position you know you know all that Investment and then they they screw it they throw it they play with it right they don't reach to the level that you have that expectation so this is what happened when when I came from from that experience and I came to the family business again I felt that I'm I lack of experience I

don't have the experience I I have a little experience but I don't have because the family business was so huge so my my my nephew and my brother when when you know When I graduated from the state and they throw me in the in the field I was like it's so scary I can't do it you know yes everything was there everyone was shaking their head yes sir yes sir but I didn't feel that it was coming from me it was coming because of the fear they knew that I'm from the family family member and

they know that that I'm a decision maker and you did not earn it at that time I didn't earn it it wasn't mine it wasn't my handmade thing right It's not my product so that's why I I you know I I I apologized from the family and I told them you know what I need to leave I need to go find something else I will come back when I reach when I feel that I reach to the level that I can come again and hold the horses with my grip I can manage I can develop

I can guide the people I can uh uh you know I can punish the people who have done the mistake or I can correct the people who has done the mistake and So on so luckily they they gave me the approval they gave me the blessing and then I went and I searched and alhamdulillah thank God I found a job in in the banking field because I'm my my background is actually in a financial sector I'm an accountant and uh uh so that was the best position where I can at the same time I wanted

to see how the people make Gain the money how they're becoming successful from where they get the money so I had a different mindset Of being in in the banking field and alhamdulillah I went and I went to the banking field and I was really successful and I achieved you know I was the youngest bank manager at that time at the age of 23 I was a bank manager and I've I've achieved 23 yes 23 I have question marks here please 23 bank manager how how did you get a bank manager at 23 honestly it's

don't tell me you don't have privilege on and honestly I swear to God I didn't had any Privilege it was it was I mean a very inspiring story do you own the bank maybe it's for your no no no no no no the bank is a public shareholder company the bank is for my father it's a public shareholder comp no way no chance that you know you can jump to that level it's it's very difficult you need to have some experience and so so my challenge was that when I came for a probation period I

pushed myself to the maximum Edge I didn't even take a vacation not Even even a single day pushing myself to learn and educate myself so I went to every section to educate myself nobody taught me and I taught myself in the retail and the commercial and the corporate and everything in operation in the bank I used to go even to the teller machine with the with the with the transportation of the to check in the ATM machine how they you know categorize the cast they call it the cascate where they put you know the domination

of the Of the different notes in a different cascate so I edicated myself in that and I used to do the extra effort and challenge my co-workers and how many product that you can sell versus how I can sell so I used to always compete with them and you know I created that momentum and and and and that challenge and that atmosphere in in uh in the branch and alhamdulillah I was really successful at the same time I used to uh focus on the old people I used to love The old people I mean uh

old men old woman grandmother and so on I so I used to do that extra effort go to their car go to their home give them the application giving them that extra service a VIP service treat them very well so I think one of one of those old people is a family related to the board member or anything something like that I remember so he went and he goes that I've been to this in this bank for I don't know how many years I never saw Such a person I never saw such such a Serv

so he gave them my name so immediately I got a call they brought me to the head head office and they told me Salam we've got a high recommendation on you and uh we think that you are a good caliber to be a br a branch manager and I refused I refused I said it's impossible I could do that I'm in a probation period I can't be in that position it's a huge responsibility I can't do it and it's the money of the People what if I do a mistake what if what if what if

and and they said you know what we want you even more what's your demand so I said let me think about it I thought about it they called me after two weeks I completely ignored the I mean the the the the offer and I refused the offer so I thought about it I said okay fine I will do it but under one condition I need at least 4 months to be taught by the top of the top branch managers in that organization and Also I need to be under training courses so I need a training

course of people management marketing sales cash management fund Management on all these training courses when I feel that I am ready to be a branch manager I will give you the green light and thank God they approved it and I stayed exactly one year under that program and I've been all over the world uh with the with the program in Oxford and London and so on so I have I think I think I have 25 Degrees in a different uh aspects and uh finally I came back and I took over and and I was the

highest achiever in the branch alhamdulillah and then then I got promoted to be in Dubai and then from Dubai i' I've been I've been promoted I think twice a year oh that's amazing h you had your your mission from the beginning to go to the bank is actually to work because you don't need to work but you were the mission was like you want to see how people make their money And how rich people make their money and you want to see um what uh what are what is the mindset of a millionaire so what

did you learn learn and what is actually the mindset of a millionaire see um there is no formula honestly I mean I've seen a lot of people even though my friends and some of them friends they came on the podcast in your podcast and they go and they go with the with the title of I am a self-made millionaire and it always hit me when I see someone Says that to them themselves it's there is nothing called a self-made millionaire it's always a support from the government it's always a support from a family it's always

a support from a family or a friend or or the atmosphere or the society whatever they the there is a support from someone where it helped you to reach to the level you can't be a selfmade billionaire you know when you say selfmade billionaire that mean you you You you woke up in this life right with the zero zero income zero family zero friends zero zero everything you are in the middle of the desert and you created that billions you created that million then you can call yourself a self-made billionaire or millionaire or trillionaire but

as long as you are in this Society you need to give a credit to the country you need to give a credit to the government you need to give a credit to your friends your family Whomever supported you in your journey to reach to the level that you you say that yourself you're a millionaire or a billionaire or whatever it is so I I'm always against that so there is no set of a formula it's always a hard work it's always a consistent so if you really consider yourself a hard work you need to challenge

yourself so today um I've I've I've challenged myself in every corner in every business field so if you put me in any new business trust Me without being you know uh a cocky or without having that ego I can be successful and I know I can be successful in it because there is a certain formula that you you add onto any business and you will succeed on it right consistent time management professionalism um uh you have the courage you have the ability you have the support you have the knowledge you educate yourself you have the

team member you select the right team member To succeed in any business that you choose so I've been into into the bank field I've been into petrochemical field I've been into steel structure field I've been into construction I'm not an engineer but I managed to run a construction company for the past 18 years I've managed to run a steel factory I managed to run a glass factory aluminium Factory sandwich factory um sandwich panel factories um you name it I've been into every business field and I succeeded in general trading in in in Food Industries right

and I ocated myself there's no shame I'm saying I don't know teach me when the moment I learn the basics and the fundamental let be but I want to before you continue I want to really thank you for saying that that no nobody is like I self-made and there is a few people who say the this you know because it will affect other people who are hard worker and trying and then they are come on man Yeah the privilege that you have the help that you have the government the luck the alhamdulillah you are in

a situation where you're just like okay why not I want to use that uh my government my country is supporting me my family that's let's admit to this and this is nothing nothing wrong with this but how how I'm going to use it in a right way how I'm I'm going to grow it or I'm going to be a loser in in my life so really thank you because this this Will will make people feel better when you say this you know cuz I hate when like I just started my own journey and just I

took 100 million from my family and I and and then i i s succeeded come on it's I mean every success story has a sad story right I always look into the sad story because I need to I need to know how did he suffer so that I don't suffer the same right I don't look into the success okay good Bravo congratulation you reached to this level Let me look into the story right it's like watching a movie and you skipping everything to the end right you're watching the end oh the end is so sad

story The Villain I don't know what happened and the hero passed away no it doesn't happen you wait for exactly 45 minutes 90 minutes to see the whole story to understand from the beginning how this person reached to this level so this is what happened in the social media you don't see the story you see The result you see the end of it and definitely nobody will give the bad image today if if I if if I speak up and I tell you the sad story of of how did I reach to this level people

even won't believe me right I've been backstabbed I've been cheated I've been scammed I've been I've been I've been I've been but today if I open that to the public I will scare them off right I will freak them out and people that will not be part of the motivation right yes it will Be a part of history education and stuff like that but it won't add a value to them right to do scare them but if I Mentor someone so I have so many people I Mentor in this life and I I always tell

them to be careful in certain agenda certain category certain way of doing the business because I've been there I've done that you name it I've been into the courts I've been into the with the lawyers I've been into the with the police I've been with scams I've Been into every as smart as you can there always someone smarter than you as strong as you are there is always someone who's stronger as Rich you are there are always someone who's greater than you so you can't be you know you can't be that that selfish person thinking

that you're the best you're the top you're the richest you're no God has created Earth with different nationality with different race with different gender for a reason so we have to be Humble we have to be very humble to the level that you need to respect the people you need to uh digest you know what's coming to you so that you can blend in and then you adapt adaptation is the most important because see when you leave your country and you come over here what do you do first you need to adapt if you don't

adapt you can't survive if you can't survive you won't sustain you will leave immediately so the first thing in this life you need to Adapt you need to adopt the the the rules and the regulation you need to adapt the society you need to adopt the religion you need to adapt the the the image of the country that's why a lot of social activists they come over here and they fail and then they're in the jail because they don't adopt the system they don't respect the system you need to respect the system you need to

adopt it so you can sustain you can continue otherwise will happen the same thing What a lot of people they failed and they came they tried to have that you know that that living in Dubai and then they never succeed exactly and uh also they were taken with the with one side or one image of of Dubai and they haven't studied the whole culture and and respect the rules of the the this this country I mean this country is very open uh very open-minded and uh and it's showing an international image at the same time

it has the culture and it has The rules and it has some some strictness in some some places where it needs to be respected and that's why it's the safest country in the world it's not because just like it became you know uh safe you know there is rules there is procedures there's a lot of things in the back end is happening where we don't feel it you know so we we shouldn't be taken by just the image of of Dubai that that glamorous image of Dubai no it is an image where people are Coming

from Roots from religion from you know from culture and they are they are being flexible uh to all everyone and to showing both Sid unfortunately this is the thing that I always advise my exper friends or co-workers or you know business partners when they come to Dubai I always tell them please don't get provoked by the image don't get provoked by the you know that that the shiny The Bling of Dubai right pay attention whomever comes to you with With that you know craziness pay attention to that because you can be provoked and they can

scam you they can fool you they can take you a different direction and you focus you lose the focus why did you come over here from the beginning and I've seen a lot of people fail because they want they want to be with those people partying enjoying having fun having all that car luxurious car luxurious restaurant and end of the two Month all his saving is gone because he never realized that he's going in a different path and he forgot what he came for so for us we are living over here we don't do that

right we focus on the career we focus on the business we focus on of that yes once upon a time we go you know out of support to couple of friends I mean you seean she had an event we participate in that event supporting our friend or or Hassan or Ibrahim or whomever of these the I mean Friends and we stand next to them being but we I don't go party I don't I don't I don't consider taking you know my valuable time and spending it in somewhere where it doesn't add a value to me

how much you are actually in in that as a as an imarati between you know being that open to being in Netflix being as a public figure being in the business being open to all the the um uh you know different Nationalities and also staying ER you know in in your culture and and then uh really respecting each and every element of your culture how much this as any cuz I'm I'm living as a Lebanese exactly the way I am yes as an imarati do you feel like you are actually living two lives I want

to ask this question really thank you for ask this question because honestly I get I get I get criticized a lot and people they don't understand how my mindset works and what's my my Mission and vision in in in this life I always challenge what fears me I always challenge what those who tells me you can't do it why do you do it I always challenge that part so uh it's it's sometimes I feel like I'm I'm I'm lifting a weight lifting a weight of being an imarati I have to be very respectful being in

an imarati wearing the traditional wear I have to Be very representable right I can't exceed or I can't go beyond that image and destroy the image because anything I do today it will affect this image it will affect the the name it will affect the country because this is what I carry today on my shoulder I carry the name of the country I carry the the nationality I carry the traditional I carry the religion I carry all of that so so I need to memorize or remind myself every time I go to a place or

a certain or I Be in a certain position that this is on your shoulder be careful what you say how you act how do how you react and the same times at the same time I have to give the the the best version of it right is that yes we are we are I have respect but also we are not that restrict right we are open to the people this is a country of multinational it's open to every society different National different race different gender is welcomed in this country the government Is allowing them to

live over here to have a family to have a nice um harmless atmosphere so this is the I mean the the load that we have to carry and this is exactly what we have to give it to the to the people to give it to the exper let them understand that it's okay you can come over don't fear this image don't fear this this culture or this Society we are very humble we are very welcomed we are very I mean we we follow the the the the National Norms of humanity and and and and and

the harmless Society in in in this region so this is what I why always carry with me so uh being participant in all these places I try my best level to be in this image and I try my best level to be also uh in the International International image to give them the how you could say the ad the marketing of it yes okay and you feel like uh sometimes okay there's not maybe Enough uh representation of imati why would why would you why would you change your nationality to attract people why would you change

your religion your race your gender to attract somewhere else or to you know flatter someone else why would you do that right you you never see an a Japanese comes to UAE right and change his n no way you will always see them in that humbleness that nice you know the the nice way of of representing every Person comes over here represent the country in the nice way in the nice image right so the moment you change your nationality the moment you change your image it it means that you're neglecting who you are you're you're

I mean you're disrespecting where you come from you got my point so of course I mean it's uh it's great and you can have both I mean you've done it in in the way you really represent uh yourself in in the best respected way in In some areas and you are an open-minded and you've been on Netflix tell me about this story being on Netflix how much it um I mean Chang youre I think I'm I'm the last cast member that you're you're interviewing I think I think you have you have interviewed all my exactly

my friends and cast and that's why when you told me I was like yes I mean I need it that's my fault I need it but you came but you came late you came to season two actually yes exactly I mean I mean uh my My my good friend my my brother who's Abrahim Sam he's I mean thanks to thanks to him I I never forget those who always uh I mean have that um push in my life I always I mean uh appreciate their effort and Brahim has done a great effort in in putting

my name into the list and uh considering me a person who he thinks that I can add a value to the to the to the to the scene so alhamdulillah thank God that I it opened the door for me and I was a Little bit scared hesitant and and what would I say and how people would think about me and what how would I represent myself and what if I did something wrong because you know once you do the the shooting you don't know what happened right and you can't correct the mistakes and you can

you can edit you can do filter you can do all of the stuff so it's a reality right and there's nothing written prescript and it's only you it's it's all it's all you It's all what comes out of out of your experience out of your momentum and so on on the scene and you have to be very careful of you know might be other cast member attack you or say something negative or do something which is you know discomforting to you how would you react so I took all of that and I took a deep

breath and I say you know what I always love to see something new in my life and this will be something challenging for me let me try it let me See how it works and uh I had um uh a certain um agenda I mean to the to the uh production team and I told them that you know if I attend I have to I have to make I have to be uh we have to agree that I don't change this look and we have to agree that I speak in Arabic not in English the

reason why is that because when you're talking about Dubai majority of the cast member are not imarati you can see I mean DJ bless and And Dan are but they're you you could say 70% they are westernized they love that you know the westernized look and I didn't see anyone with imarati pure imarati look in the season one and this was and this was it bothered me a lot honestly so I say if I participate this is what I want I need to represent this I need to represent it in a in a very way

in this way in a very strong way and and in a very you know that imarati voice to be in there and then they loved It they agreed and touchwood thank God uh we went in it was amazing experience and I you know I was very I mean very genuine I tried my best level to be straightforward to the point and uh thank God the review was amazing uh I I was so scared to see the review and I was waiting for people to criticize not even a single message criticizing my personality my character my

I mean uh approach in the scene and touchwood was amazing honestly I mean because also You you took it from uh a challenge and wearing the candura and you you are very like strict and respectable and and strong and showing all these values that imarati has so I think everyone saw that and it reflects it so I'm I'm sure nobody will criticize you from that side but did you get any comments from your friends here and there imarati the family I got a lot of comments because you know the moment um uh the moment they

people they saw The scene so they they this is something new it's called a reality show right and uh people they understand where I come from and they understand my personality they know you know my daily life how I I I represent myself so they so that I don't fit into that Society why would you do that you're not like that you're not a type of a person where you're a show off you're you're not a bling you're not this you're not that so they they criticize in that sense I mean so They didn't understand

it it wasn't about that it was about changing the the mindset of the people changing that you know there are people who lives in Dubai very normal people I'm not I I I never came in the in the scene showing a Lamborghini or showing you know 50 million watch or what I I didn't I didn't come with that personality I came with a different personality completely so I I diverted the image the viewers in a different perspect and honestly the Highest view percentage was from the states second was Brazilia bra Brazil third was India and

so on so imagine those people that were so attracted to this image and when when when they mentioned Dubai this is what they saw you got my point and this is what they liked mostly so inshah I mean this is a surprise I don't want to say it in in in the out out loud in the public uh I will do my best to be in the in this upcoming Season I mean you are in season I don't know I don't know yet I don't know yet but but inshallah I will try to do my

best to be part of that inshah and you'll have you'll have more views also you have more watch time or more more focus more acting and I I think um we should see more focus on you uh being imarati being wearing the kandura and also um you said something I mean I love Dubai bling and I understand this is one Side of Dubai it's this is not all Dubai cuz the first criticism are uh was about you know everybody's Rich everybody's bling and no it's not it's not true exactly you know it's it has many

sides but why not show the good side as well why not show that okay you it's a rich country it's a country of uh you know luxury why do we have to hide it I mean it's not uh it's not something that we are just uh ashamed of or it's something that oh we Are rich but we don't want to say that I mean we are rich but we have also we take care of other people we are poor and people criticize me talk so much about Dubai but guys this is my 30 years here

in this country I lived here more than I lived in any other country so I have this feeling you know when I every time I I talk this I talk it from the heart it's just like really this is how how I live here you know it's not something like uh I criticize or I I say Nice words for any reason so I I I like it especially because we don't when we see Hollywood and we saw the these movies and they are so bling we don't criticize them and know why why they are allowed

to show the The Bling side the good part and we are shy about like being as as an Arab we are showing this bling and happy life and this why not exactly I mean I mean see it's it's it's um it's an obligation honestly it's an obligation being an imarati is to to Give them that the best image of the best image uh people theyve heard they've seen they've you know a lot of people they came and visited Dubai and then they understood how the society works over here uh it's I mean um it's it's

it's a hustle when you see success is being categorized with a number and that's what I hate you know when when you see someone successful they go he's a millionaire that's why He's successful and they go he's a billionaire that's why he's successful I don't understand why they value the success with numbers and that's what I hate honestly because my mom could be a successful person she she's not rich my cousin could be successful he's not rich my father could be successful but he's not rich why do we categorize success with a number right why

do we put a title anybody could be a sexcess a normal uh delivery guy could be really Successful he's providing he's giving to his family he's giving to sending money to his wife to his kids and he's living the momentum of his life and he's enjoying and he could be really successful with one digit 1,000 dham or 2,000 D you could be really successful so this is the wrong per perception that the viewers or the people or the followers they they see that oh because he's into that position that's why he's successful they don't understand

you Could be successful in any position you don't need to have a subtitle or you need to you don't need to have that number value on your on your forehead saying that you're successful 500 million that's why he's successful 1 billion that's why he's successful you could be by the way a failure and have 1 billion in your account right and you can be you've you've seen lot of I don't want to categorize but you've seen those people who in in you know and Cryptocurrencies who has trillions and trillions and they failed nobody talks about

that nobody says he's a Los a billionaire loser a trillionaire loser but they are right you've seen it a lot in the market in the TV but people they don't talk about it exactly and to maintain uh your success that's another story it's not easy to maintain the idea of uh outlet mall it came from USA you adopted this idea and you to be honest With you um uh I mean me and my nephew used to study in the states and um uh you should meet my nephew he's he's he's a very I mean crazy

person he's he's very Dynamic he's very creative uh person and very successful in his mindset uh he's complet different from all of us I mean we we used to run behind him to see to see his craziness and because of that he he managed to achieve lot of good ideas creative ideas and and he's the one who brought the the The concept of the Dubai outlet mall in UAE and both of us we used to study in the states and used to travel from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and we used to see those shopping

center in the middle of the state and we used to ask ourself this question is like why would someone open a shopping center in the middle of the desert and no houses no no nothing so when we entered over there we we saw a huge number of people lot of um Shoppers Going to the shop the outlet mall and buying and the clothes are on the ground and the prices were so crazy cheap and it's branded we didn't understand what was what was going on why do why the high-end Brands sell at the cheapest price

so every time we used to visit and we we we tried our best level to educate ourself to understand what's the concept itself so finally we understood that when we go to the normal shopping in in Los Angeles and then again we go to The Last Vegas and on the way the same pants let's say from Armani at that time Armani verace was the you know the top the top yeah the highest Armani Exchange so the same pants when you go to the outlet mall after one month it's half of the price so we understood

that something called off season Factory Outlet so those High brand branded uh shopping centers they couldn't put their uh their brand their product on outside the Shelf saying that's for sale so they Don't want to make discount they don't want to make discount they they transfer those product which is off season right to this Factory Outlet and they sell it in the cheaper prices and it was offseason what do what do you mean by offseason uh before uh when you go to any other shopping centers in UA you see in winter summer clothing summer winter

clothing so nobody understood you know why would you sell a jacket in a temperature of 50 you got my But they didn't have that education so we my my nephew brought the idea for the family for the family business my brother loved the adopted Lov the idea adopted and the whole family put hand in hand to to support my nephew alhamdulillah the government they love the idea and voila we started we did the construction we got the BL the blessing from she Muhammad B Rashid uh and thank God touchwood was really successful business and Uh

now he's doing the second phase of the outlet mall that's great I heard you're you're expanding and people love this this is something like uh uh also you know which uh open the opportunity for anyone to buy brand I mean it doesn't have to be in the right Exact Time of the Season it can be offseason with the same quality and then really half the price or or some some Brands maybe also they have stock it doesn't have like to that they have to finish All their season could be in the season exactly but they

have a lot of stock and then they just move it there because they want make when you're talking about discount the the factory outlet they have yearly discount they don't have you know when you go to the normal shops you see that okay because of the um I mean shopping Festival they have that uh period of time they do the discount and then they go back to the normal price but when you go to the outlet malls the Discount is during the whole year it's not categorized based on any type of festive right so that's

why when you go over there whenever you want discounted product you go to the factory outlet and you see it available so we have Nike Adidas you name it Burberry yeah Burberry and and so on so a lot of good brands are over there and they're doing alhamdulillah they're doing good it's almost like 375 shops and the second phase is almost 400 shops uh for the new For the new phase and a question just like a curious question do do the brand like this idea or they don't like it like are you getting these brands

from outside the UAE or it is the brands in UAE who are actually off season they give you the goods yeah some of them um within UAE and some of them from outside so it depends on the agent who uh I mean uh tied up with with those type of Brands let's say brand for less he gets different brands in his uh in his Outlet Or in his shops and you have other brands other um uh General market General trading companies where had different type they they tied up with different uh Brands let's say Adidas

Nike they have their own brand they have their own shop so they're not tied up with anybody and then you have let's say like diesel uh I think there's a Lamborghini shop also they have their own shop their own brand they're not tied up with anything any other agent But some of the agent they have four five variety of Brands and then they Market different uh uh you know different brand names in their own shop I think it will help the brand a lot because they actually they used to lose this stock and where they

want to go for it either they want to go all always on discount and they cannot I mean they have just maybe a few you can't see LV I mean you will never it it can't come to your mind that one day LV outside the Shop they have that you know sales stands they don't do it they will never do it they would never do it not even not even give you the goods for outlet mall no no no no they will never do that what they do they throw the the things they don't I

mean they you know they're always after market you know and the online and so on they they will always have different you know different means and ways of sell to get rid of these stock exactly because it will affect the Image exactly oh my God we are always after the image you know exactly exactly big thing um okay I want to hit also on gold gy you have uh also uh the same thing I mean yes both of me and my nephew when we used to to be in the states again we used to go

to the gyms and we used to train uh in a different uh gym so they used to be 24 Fitness in in LA and they used to be LA Fitness go gym uh and so on so we used to love you know that character of Arnold sweger and Arnold was the main person that used to train in Gold Gym in Venice Beach so whenever we used to go over there and we used to see these things and we were very I mean uh inspired by it so again uh actually my nephew graduated before me and

when he came he he tried his best level to gather new brands new different International names and he managed to get go gym over here and he took the agent of Gold Gym uh International and he opened uh almost 25 different uh Branches in UA and he took also an agency in Oman and he opened the branch in in in muskat uh and it was really successful um my my my uh responsibility was to take care of the manufacturing business and my nephew was the person who used to get all these ideas yeah and bring

it you should put your nephew in Du link no no no no no no that that guy I don't think he needs his own show trust me oh really he needs his own show no no that that that personality is Is amazing honestly crazy personality he he would he I mean if you sit with him for 5 minutes he can take you to the different level that's why we need to see him public yes yes that's great tell me tell me something that we uh since we talk about d uh blink um something funny happened

something maybe between you and Brahim or I don't know honestly I I look when and and uh on the show itself when I when I participated I never understood what was The the responsibility of every person I mean and for the few scenes I was a little bit quiet I'm trying to uh summize or or digest or you know adopt the situation what's going on and why are they fighting I don't understand what was the fight about and why they're arguing and they were arguing about bags about luxurious stuff and and I was like I

won't do such thing it was so difficult for me to blend in and and and if I stay quiet Would I continue if I attack would people criticize me so I didn't understand what what was my task to do on on the on on the scene and then the moment I saw Brahim is fighting with everybody so I was very you know very protective not to be in that that part because I I was very I mean careful very careful not not to have that that scene but unfortunately Ibrahim has done it and and you

know we had one scene where we we had an Argument over DA's you know business partner and I argued above that and I was really you know serious about it and Brahim start shouting and yelling so I was in in in between is like should I should I continue or should I beat the hell out of him in front of the production but you know I managed to control myself I managed to hold myself and you know the end Brahim lives on the controversy Brahim loves it Brahim loves the attention I mean he loves to

be I Mean the central of the of any attent in any place Central of any attention and uh and he got all the attention honestly because of those reaction and because of those action I can't do that you know it's it's it's really bad for my image I won't be that aggressive I never represent AG aggressiveness you know I came into this show to be that wise person humble low key you know down to earth uh as you say Old Goat trying to give advices to them and uh I will Continue doing the same thing

yeah you didn't take side no I didn't take no one's side honestly I was I took the side of the you know the the facts I took the side of the right path I took the side of the good well and alhamdulillah I think all of them they became my friends and all of them they're in a good relationship with me uh I mean some of them they don't they don't have that connection off you know after the after the show but I I did my Best level to keep in con I mean contact with

every last member yeah but you're more friend with the ibraim Ibrahim definitely because Ibrahim is the first person I mean who approached and he's the first person who introduced me to everyone so the credit goes to him butth why he didn't want you to be on the podcast here he didn't want that [Music] ER I I remember I remember at the beginning right and now I'm joking no I Remember in the beginning he he told me he told me that I'm going for the was the first broadcast right and then I don't know what happened

I think it got cancelled or something it didn't go through you know the flashback came I remember it honestly I don't know what happened and uh I think we we had something or I was busy or I traveled something like that and it didn't it didn't go but anyway always the the the best for the last yes of course I mean We're lucky to have you and such a really an amazing uh personality and amazing image for for the UAE for Dubai thank um very proud of you continue what you're doing as a businessman as

a public figure uh what else Salam you want to tell me before we close this well I um look I I was uh love to see those people who have been I mean successful in the society is to to give back to the society right I mean what's the use of Having gold in a in a safe locked for 100 years for no one to to Value it or to to feel it or to see it or it's like having a diamond and hidden it's like having something beautiful and you don't show it off right

so if you have an education you have an experience you have a success story tell it to the people give it to the people give it to the society you never know what you say today can encourage someone can uplift someone can take someone from committing A suicide right one word one action one success one smile can give a hope to a person today people they're they're living in a hope to be honest with you there are families living in a hope there are Society living in a hope so if you give them that one

chance 1% of a hope you someone can survive over there in the middle of the desert or the middle of of an ocean God knows because of something that you said and I always believe in that because I get a lot of Comments of something I said and I never knew that whatever I said that could encourage someone or could change someone's life and then the moment I see the story that what I said today has changed someone's life it makes me happy right it motivates me even more nothing in return I don't want anything

in return I don't want money I don't want clap I don't want none of that right I don't want more follows I don't want even the tick I've seen lot of people Why don't you put the guys I don't want the tick that's not my I mean that's not my goal right my goal is to give to the society what I've Tak taken in the beginning because my father passed away and my mom she's the one who raised me right to me that's a success story that's a single mom who took me to the from

my own hand raised me slapped me beat me to Hell educated me made me the man I am today right and there are hundred of moms today they neglected Their children they left them alone right giving up they didn't do their best level and today they're in jail today they're using drugs they're doing you know n this stuff TOS right and they're continuing that because today what you give that will continue to the rest of the P the person's life so if you want to stop something you want to change something's life do it today

do the change if you don't do the change you won't see the change in front of you So it starts from you and ends for someone else and that's what what I always advise people to do I always encourage people to reach to the level I never feel jealous I never feel sorry I never feel um um demotivated I always try to find different ways and means to motivate my even from a drink as you can see I will put a C4 if I feel myself I'm going down I will go in the gas station

get C4 pump my blood with 300 gram of caffeine CA caffeine right to boost my Level right you name it in everything I've been into all type of sport to motivate myself if I feel down if I feel low I will go to the gym if I feel low I will hit a kickboxing I will go Bunch jumping I will go even I've I've I've gone into uh you know a big fan of Harley-Davidson I've gone there you name it all type of sport I've I've I've done it and I've been there and I've learned

a lot from it right so you never fear anything you always challenge your fears So that you can succeed you want to succeed you challenge your fear and you see how you will reach amazing amazing Before I Let You Go uh where do you see Dubai after 10 years 15 years from now honestly Dubai will reach to a level that we all always saw in these movies and science fictions then when you saw cars flying people are disappearing and reaching to somewhere else with without even having that tangible Touch of of materialistic uh Construction uh

people are uh connecting in with each other in a in in a high end technology um you will see buildings and not even vertical not even horizontal you will see you know things that you can't even imagine to be artificial now uh Dubai or UA they're adopting the AI and they want that to to be implemented in the government if that happens you know what will happen to the people you know what will happen to the siy you know what will happen to the Education you will have everything in a in a in a in

a split of a second you will have all the approvals in one go in one tick you will have all the paperwork zero nothing nothing in front of the table you won't be having offices trust me you'll be working while you're walking and I think that people they can't even imagine something that Beyond imagination this is what Dubai will reach one day and I promise you you will remember what I said to you today that's Amazing you know uh Sal W it's something I applaud and I respect and I love uh because I can see

it in your eyes as an imarati cuz you have the Hope yeah cuz you have a leader who put that hope in you and who put that uh there's nothing uh that we cannot achieve as a human being and uh uh you really make me feel when you are talking you're talking of something that nothing is impossible exactly you know and uh this comes from honestly from your leadership who put That inside you honestly his his his children and his his grandchildren and they follow the path the same path I I will never forget that

Sheik Zed uh God have mercy on his soul he gathered all the engineers art agriculture engineers and told them that you put your number you put all your bills spread on this country and tell me what need to be done to aggregate this desert this mountain and come back to me and tell me What's the best ways to do it and to get it done with you put your numbers they went all over the world the engineers were there they did they did the searches they did the examination they came back after one month told

Sheik Zed it will never happen this country is dead zone not even in the mountain not even in desert imagine what was his response said thank you very much I will make it happen and he did today you see Dubai You see abudhabi you see Alin you see the biggest agricultures are over here the big the biggest grals are produced in UA you see the palm trees you see the dates you name it so I always believe that whenever you see an obstacle in your life do your best to bypass those those obstacles because an

obstacle could be from a single point view right but once you try and you dig deep you will find the Solutions amazing do you feel any competition uh little bit challenges from around you and what what you are doing uh uh about it um let me be more specific how do you see uh the KSA competing with Dubai uh for the next year and how do you feel as an imarati what do you have to do and do you feel the competition honestly I mean uh we can't consider the the development of other countries as

a competition to to UAE in general UAE has done what people Could not do UAE has given the hope to the people that a small country with 3 million population could reach to the level of kingdoms you got my point so this is the story that UA is telling the Earth this is the story that the UA told the world that a small country consider be could consider an island that people today can survive and live with harmless no Wars no attack no racism no fight no criminals act and so on right Can live in

a peaceful society and can be so rich and can be so equal in race in gender in culture and so on right this is what they are giving them there is no competition we don't compete with nobody we don't want anyone to compete with us we compete with ourself we compete with the thoughts that we have to achieve more and more every single day not even not even month or year every single day we compete ourself we compete within each other as you can see The rulers of Dubai Abu Dhabi Sharda they always compete each

other they're rich they're into the best momentum of their life but they're still competing on how they can provide the best life for their Nation the best life for their population right now if the other countries are trying to follow I say congratulation because if you consider this is the right path I salute you and I think that you are taken the right path too to continue the same way that Will help your nation you will help your population you will help it will help your Society Bravo congratulation and God bless you and we we

wish you all the best and the luck to achieve that the the the maximum momentum of your of your success amazing salm thank you so much it was an amazing very inspirational my pleasure and more to come season three you you will see you will see season season three is going to Be really crazy amazing and I'm I'm happy with you with with the Bing or without the Bing you have an amazing personality achievement is great very humble person uh it's great to know you you tell me why did you choose podcast in the business

in in my business it was a coincident it came after Corona with the lockdown I saw in your profile as photographer uh yes I a photographer I started as a photographer I have a Production House video production we do a lot of campaigns and and video campaigns and lot of social media content but what happened is the lockdown and stopped all the business I said I'm not going to stop okay I want to do something so let me interview the people that I know and then I start to interview and then it's just like suddenly

and what's your goal um my goal uh business goal is to grow this uh to grow my company and and My personal goal is to be happy cuz I I feel like I find my happiness in this podcast okay so the success story gives you an added value of course okay yes and what you're trying to give to the to the viewers yes this is something that I discovered uh during my podcast is that I am giving something and there is something nice about giving and I felt it I never felt that honestly I mean

I was Al always normal helping and giving people but now because I'm I have more Reach and people are reaching out to me asking me for you know thank you for this I heard that it makes me feel so you know Happy from inside and I was like you know what really when they said like when you give and help it's a happiness for you I never felt that but now I really feel it exactly exactly I honestly I mean to not to to to to make it uh long cutting the short story I have

one of uh one of the I mean the inspiring story is that uh I I was approached with you know I always get these messages Direct messages and so on very few that um I open based on you know the the the the the message I got so one of the messages I open and I saw uh there was a lady who was really suffering in her life and uh uh she had a few money to survive uh in her life and support her her kids a single woman a single mom and uh to be

honest with you I I remember I I told her to come to my office I don't know why I believed And what she said and she told me really I'm not trying to flirt with you I'm not trying to approach you I don't want any money and everything I just need you to help me how to to start a business how to survive in this in this in this world so I told her to come came to my office and I looked in her you know uh agenda and what she what the proposal that she

had and she had only 10,000 dham in her in her pocket and she wanted to start the business with that 10,000 dham that She had and she has uh seven kids girls no boys left by the husband right no job no nothing so anyway so I look into it and I ask her what and what do you want to do she's like I don't know what to do and I'm afraid if I put that in in any type of business investment I'm going to lose it and I'm going to lose everything so I said okay

fine tell me your hobbies tell me what you have what you know your your your I mean uh you're expert in so she told me like I like you know B Perfumes and so on stuff like that so I said perfect let's stick to the perfumes okay that's the best option so we started over there we sat we chose the name uh divided that 10,000 or I told her 5,000 divided into the number of perfumes the cost and so on and so on so on and I gave her the whole visibility study and I let

her I told her to start I remember in that in that uh office before she leave I wrote for her on the piece of note was uh the note was Like 10 Dam note and I wrote for her the date and I told her that one day you will come and uh you will sell 2,000 perfumes and I signed on it today she sent me that screenshot of the picture of the note that I wrote it for her she actually sold more than 5,000 perfumes uh she has her own car Range Rover she had she

took her kids to travel all over the world she took them to the private school she got a house now and she's living here momentum of Life oh that's an amazing story that was from one message that I received and I have lot of Mentor from the same same stories which really makes me so happy to see them you know uh achieve and grow and succeed in their life and makes you happy makes me so happy yeah amazing thanks a Habibi Allah take care