George Galloway is one of quite a few people today saying Ken Livingston talked about the facts why do you believe it was anti-semitic well George expressed it as ever far better than Ken Livingston George said Zionism and Nazism are two sides of the same coin now that is clearly not true Nazism was intended to destroy the Jewish people that was his intention the problem is that people use anti-zionism to conceal uh their anti-semitism you say you're anti-zionist well what you're really saying is you're against the existence of the state of Israel if you don't want
Israel to exist that is clearly anti-semitic it's not a kind of vaguely nice opinion it's actually a very bad opinion George Galloway no Zionism and Israel are political constructs if you were for the downfall of the Soviet Union as John Wass that didn't mean you hated Russian people in fact you could say it meant the opposite that you wanted to liberate the Russian people from the political system under under which they lived Ken Livingston doesn't have a racist bone in his body in fact he'd still be the mayor of London if he hadn't gone out
on a limb on anti-racist causes over and over again we cannot allow this conflation it's dangerous for everybody being against Israel is not being against Jews many Jews are against Israel you've just had one on the screen L BR do do you accept that that you can be anti-israel without being anti-semitic or do you believe that is the that's the lie you're it the question is not about whether you're for or against Israel uh people actually conflate the Israeli State the Israeli government actions of the settlers the actions of lud the statements of Benjamin Netanyahu
um people who don't want Israel to exist among whom uh are a very large number of people on on the ultra left I don't say George is one of those but there are people for whom anti-zionism is a shield behind which they they March they call Israel a country with its own Supreme Court that fines against its own government they call that an apartheid state do you accept that some people do do that uh there are some the anti-Semitism exists it's always existed The Daily Mail used to fund it but this is a on the
left problem you know in particular that some people hide behind being you know anti- uh you know Israel when they are in fact there may be some though um I have to tell you in all honesty I've never met one and Ken Livingston certainly isn't one and Nei is Jeremy Corbin or McDonald this is a synthetic argument that's being generated here it's a smoke but it's about offense isn't it it's about saying you know people find deeply hurt well they've SE seized on legitimate anxieties amongst Jewish people and heart feelings and exploited it need to
bring it up I mean why why why mention Hitler in that answer yesterday something to do with his age I reference the second world war all the time it was our finest Hour the defeat of fascism the greatest victory of the the 20th century and so on these are uh perhaps age related uh points John M turn it was an absurd thing to say it was as if to say we don't really object to Hitler's earlier work when he seemed to be Pro Zionist but a bit later he went mad I mean Hitler was a
racist and anti-semite throughout his entire career and and to to name him to to um to try to defend NASA try to defend uh the L party from accusations as an anti-semitic crisis inside the party is is not just silly it's actually Ken showing he probably should no longer contribute to public debate I mean George Gallow I mean um John M Turner quoted you actually ear I mean you know you you had said Nazism and Zionism with two sides of the same coin well they actually did mint a coin uh to uh use in the
program the harara program to ship Jews out of Germany here's the point but do you think that some people might take offense to that no Zionism and Nazism for a brief period of time cooperated to get Jews out of Germany because both of them believed that Jews should not be in Germany the Zionist believed they should be in Palestine for one set of reasons and the Nazis believed it supported Zionism is surely a perversion Zionism was about liberating Jews from it's not look the the zionists were not Nazis and the Nazis were not zionists and
actually living if you look at the transcript Livingston never said that they were he said that they cooperated together and they did that's a matter of historical fact he said he you don't actually need to bring the historian from America you could bring many historians from Israel this is not a secret it's only a secret to those now waking up to it they were cooperating because they had the same idea that the European Jews should not be in Europe they should be in Palestine now what Jeremy Corbin has said and I think George Galloway has
also said is actually this is about you attacking Corbin Jeremy Corbin is doing a perfectly good job of attacking himself I don't need to do anything his inability to act with decisiveness about Naas sha was telling his silence today is telling he's a man who Pals around with terrorists he calls Hamas and Hezbollah his friends He piled around with the fral IRA he's a man who is not trusted and can't be trusted he can't bring himself to say the word Israel he was the labor friends of Israel fundraiser last year in the in the lab
Party Conference couldn't say the word Israel he does not uh want to see a two-state solution uh in the Middle East he wants to see one state and that state would be Palestine
