Pour Minds | Episode 373: World Wide Eaters Ft. Charlamagne Tha God

I GET WAXED. >> OH, WHERE? >> WHERE? >> BRAZILIANS. >> WHAT? >> NOT. YOU BE HAVING THEM legs to the moon. >> Do you? >> No, I don't [laughter] have to. [music] >> Do you still consider yourself messy? >> Man, we all messy. >> We always say we hate people that try to be like, "If it's not about God getting some money, >> you wasting time." >> I think men gossip just as much as women. They just call it building. >> Were you like nervous when like Angela left? Like when Destiny's Child switched it up

and it worked, >> but everybody was like >> at first everybody was enraged. >> No, they weren't. >> YES, THEY WERE. >> THEY STILL HAD BEYONCE. >> SO, you're saying you're the Beyonce? Huh? >> How y'all obviously friends. Y'all work together, but like when Andrew gets involved in like the [music] race stuff and >> not my business. And Andrew is a grown ass man. Drea, your people, >> and and can't nobody tell you about Drea. Y'all know each other. >> They always be trying to like insinuate [music] that you're not masculine. I don't know why

people like to use women as an insult. [music] >> For me, it be the gay comments like, "Oh, that gay." >> And I know some gay guys that'll beat your ass. >> I'll beat your ass. I leg press 245. We women strong, too. >> She was in her 20s. I was 18. >> Is she in jail? >> NO, SHE NOT. >> NO, WE'RE GOING TO LOCK IN. >> SHE NEED to be. >> I don't want her touching on me. So, I used to have these little fire cracks. Whenever an adult would leave, she'd come. So,

I just started throwing them at her. Get away from me. Get away from me. Get away from me. As a woman, I'm not kissing my friends. >> Lex kissed me one time, so she's lying. >> That was a long time ago. >> What happened? >> That was when we Nothing up. >> Where was y'all at, though? Where? Where? [laughter] [music] [music] >> [music] >> What's up y'all? It's your girl Lex P >> and it's your girl Dre and Nicole >> and you are tuned in to another episode Of Poor Mind >> where a drunk mind

speaks sober thoughts. >> We got a guest today. We got a guest today. >> Yes. So, we have a very special guest in the building today. We have media icon, entrepreneur, author, radio personality. The list just goes on and on. And we affectionately call him Uncle Baddy. >> We have [laughter] Charlemagne, the God in the building. >> Peacece, [crying] how y'all feeling? >> What's up? [laughter] Yes. >> Happy to be here. I like doing podcasts that I actually enjoy. >> You know what I mean? Podcast that I watch uh when I'm just doing nothing. >>

Yeah. Yeah. >> Now, you know, like when you go and sit on somebody's platform, that's like a solid like we have solidified >> that we are, you know, in the building. >> Y'all been Come on, man. Poor mind's heavy out here. >> It is. You are like the cream of the crop of like doing this media stuff like the syn having a syndicated radio show is like >> the pinnacle of Yeah, that's like the cream of the crop of doing all this. >> We've been around a long time. Breakfast Club been It'll be 15 years.

Well, it's 15 years now actually. >> That's amazing. That is the long run. >> 15 years. >> Okay. I want to talk to you a little bit about black effect. We going to get I want to talk about this because you know. >> Can I ask y'all a question first? >> Yes. >> Why did y'all post pee plan t take 25 days? >> You know why? >> Why it only takes two weeks? >> Oh, you really? [laughter] >> Yes. Why did it take 25 days? I heard them talking beforehand. That's been on my mind. I'm

like, why is why does your post peel plan take 25 days? >> So, this is actually my third time getting this pill and it's a very chemical pill. >> Yes, we both got chemical peels like what a month ago at. Well, a few weeks ago at this point >> and yeah, so it's a very intense peel. So they give you afterare and then they give you the products and you can only use those products for 25 days. >> Got you. Got you. >> So that's why I mean it don't really you're done peeling way before

that, but they just want you to use the products. >> Use like Destiny and all of that stuff like that. >> No. So, I think the thing about it is um when you first get the peel, you have the big peel for a week >> and then after that you're like flaking and peeling a lot because you're using retinol while you're peeling. So, you know, retinol dries your skin out. It's just a lot going on. So, I feel like the first two weeks are really like it's a lot going on with your skin and then

using retinol while you're getting a peel is a lot for your skin. >> Yes, I've been getting pills for the past decade. >> Yeah. >> Now, you know, they said you >> say you was bleaching but they said that about us too when we got I think it does naturally fade your skin complexion a little bit when you first start doing >> the hyperpigmentation. >> Yeah. But it all comes back. But that's what I had. I had hyperpigmentation. >> Okay. You got it cleared up. >> You look nice. Which pill you get? >> I don't

know. You know, I don't know which one I get now. There's >> a lot of different ones. >> Yeah. It's not as intense was as it was a decade ago. Salute to Dr. Natasha Sandy. So, my skin was good. I had over the holidays I drank some dairy though, so I might have like a little pimple or something. >> I know that's right. >> But I was just wondering 25 days for a post peel plan is a long time. >> Yeah. We can't wear makeup. This >> We can't. Yeah. This is the first time We

put on an episode without makeup in years. >> Long time. We be liking to be glam. >> Well, I can't tell. Y'all look good. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> You know what I'm saying? Well, again, back to the black effect because I know a lot of people ask us all the time like how to start a podcast and what we need to do. And I don't think there's a blueprint for this, but for the people watching that would like to be, you Know, a part of that network, kind of like explain what it is

and how somebody would pitch their podcast to be a part of your network. >> What you just said is very key. There is no one way to do it. You know, I think that you see so many different people in this space, you know, having a certain level of success and everybody thinks it's like one way to get to, you know, that success and it's not [clears throat] like, you know, the way Y'all did it is probably different than, you know, Mandy and Weezy did. You know, the way that, you know, Joe Button does it

is different than somebody like Andrew Schultz and Flagrant. But, you know, the the key to a successful podcast is literally just having something to say. Yeah. and not only having something to say, being willing to do it consistently when you're not making no money for it [laughter] all the time. Cuz everybody Thinks that, you know, this just this just bag of cash that just drops in your lap soon as you start a podcast. How long you been doing poor minds? >> Um, since 2018. >> 2018. So that's what, like >> seven years. >> Almost seven

years. Do you realize that there's data that actually shows um most people when they start a podcast, most podcast 44% of all podcasts don't last past three episodes. >> That's crazy. Three. >> Three. >> You didn't even try, man. Exactly. >> Cuz [laughter] it's the consistency that kills people. >> And And you start having actual success around year six or seven. >> Yeah. >> So when I look at y'all, it seem like y'all right on schedule. >> Yeah. To be honest, >> you just got to stay the course. >> You got to stay the course.

You know what podcasts surprise me? That they've lasted this long and they're actually seeing a lot of success. Reasonably shady. >> Really? Why? >> I just, you know, when people do podcasts that are friends together, they just don't work out >> and they always break up. They always fight. But I was watching. >> You trying to tell something? >> I MEAN, I HELL NO. WE IN THIS FOR LIFE. >> THE CRAZY [laughter] THING ABOUT US, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S what makes us an anomaly because we've outlasted so many of our other counterparts and we be

having our issues, too. with like licks and I >> I bring it to the pod when you have to bring. No, we don't. >> You know why? Because I feel like one thing that I love about poor minds is Like we don't have to clickbait and do all this stuff cuz a lot of times people are doing that just oh they going to watch this they this is my friendship and I'm going through it. I do not need y'all in my business. You know what I'm saying? >> It depends what it is or if it's

a teachable moment and people can learn from it. >> There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing like wrong with bringing that to The point. >> But you know what's interesting though? Because I think because we don't do that, it's always a lot of speculation in the comments. >> Like y'all really get along. >> Yeah. Like especially if like one of us is having a bad day. I think people people never assume that it could be outside factors. Like both of us have separate lives outside of poor minds. People never assume like oh maybe Lex Had

a bad day. Maybe she got into it with her man. Maybe she got into it with one of her other >> maybe she got into it with one of her her other friends. Maybe I had something happen. >> Started to say other your mama sitting right [laughter] there cuz you ain't want like you ain't want her to take nothing like that. I heard you thought you I saw I heard you love. [screaming] Yes, you [laughter] said her Man and then you said other friends. I heard you. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? >> I heard you. >>

But I'm just saying like maybe maybe I had to maybe I got some flat tires or something and I had to spend a whole bunch of money and I had to come to the studio and I'm annoyed by that. People always assume that if one of us mood is off it's because we not getting along with each other. M and y'all successful Now. So people want to see y'all break up. >> They do. >> That's just I mean I don't know why people are like that. But whenever somebody is having some success, then all of

a sudden that's when they decide, you know what? We're tired of them winning >> and the comparison. >> Oh my god. But y But I mean I don't know why they compare y'all when y'all a duo. Y'all supposed to bring different things to the table. What makes it >> duality is what makes it interesting, >> enjoyable. >> That's the beauty of it. But I can be watching this podcast, you know, Lex over there saying something wild and Dre just sitting there calm, you know, [laughter] >> and you don't know whether she judging Lex, you know

what I mean? Are she going to agree with her? Like, You just don't know. All of that makes the podcast intriguing. >> I have a poker face. >> Oh my gosh. >> But I do want to ask you another question about Black Effect. So, what one thing that I really love about Black Effect is that I feel like you give a lot of opportunities to smaller black creators. So, with that being said, how do you decide what podcast you want to sign? >> I mean, honestly, it's just about who who we enjoy, you know what

I mean? Or who might be bringing something to the marketplace that isn't necessarily out there? Because that goes back to what I said earlier, like, you know, >> everybody wants to start a podcast, but do you actually have something to say, >> right? >> You know, cuz I see a lot of people trying to be second rate versions of what somebody else is already doing. Because when they see somebody having success in the space, they're like, "Well, maybe if I do that, then I can have some success, too." No, we already got, you know, that.

>> Show me what it is that you have. Cuz everybody has a unique story, man. Like, you know, our DNA is completely different from everybody else on this planet for a reason. Like every single thing you've gone through in your life, you've gone through for for a reason. And that's your unique story. Tell me that. Like, you know, if you like to bake cupcakes and you are considered the best cupcake baker in your town. >> Yeah. >> Talk to me about that on your podcast because one day I might it might be Valentine's Day and

I might want to, you know, do a little razledazzle in the kitchen and cook some cupcakes for bae. Right. >> Right. Like then I can tune into your Podcast. Give me that. Like and I think that um >> yeah, if you're if you're doing that, >> I I I believe in investing in people early because like I said, it takes six, seven years. At some point, I believe those folks will cut through. And I think that's a really good point that you made because I think that's why a lot of people get discouraged initially because

they do think that in order for them to get signed to a black effect or Even like a Spotify or something. Oh, I have to be a poor minds. I have to be a 85 South. I have to be a horrible decision. >> And that is that is that is Yeah, that's very true. And the other thing about the podcast business is like, yo, I would rather you start off on your own, grow it however much you want to grow it, then go look to partner with somebody. You know what I mean? I think a

lot of people are just saying, "Hey man, I want To start a podcast. How can you help me start a podcast?" And then when you be like, >> "Well, ain't no dollar amount to that." >> You know what I'm saying? Because the way the podcast business is right now, like five years ago, >> I mean, people was just getting money thrown at them in crazy ways. But now the business has like leveled off and you know what somebody is supposed to make. And if you're starting from ground Zero, I don't care who you are. I

don't care if you're a former rapper, former athlete, whatever. If you starting from ground zero, >> I can't invest a whole bunch of money into your podcast because I don't know if I'm going to get a ROI, right? So, the best thing for you to do is probably do a re a revenue share >> with with with whatever company you want to partner with and y'all grow something together. >> See, I hope y'all wrote that down. They didn't. I didn't. They didn't. Cuz again, most people get discouraged after that first year or two when they

not making no money. We didn't make money for years. We We always talk about when we got that first $86 check. We were so happy to listen. >> That's that's how I felt the first when we started Burdius 13 years ago. Me and Andrew Schultz, >> we just started it cuz that that's That's my homie and we like to have conversations. But the first time we got a ad revenue check, I don't even know how much it was for. I was just like, >> "Oh, >> yeah. Yeah, >> you can make money doing this, you

know. And I was arrogant when I first started podcasting because >> I was already doing Breakfast Club. So my guy Chris Moro came to me and told me that I need to start a podcast. I'm Like, for what? I do more than radio. Like, you know, podcast for people who can't get on the radio. And then I was like, well, no, I have been fired from radio four times before. So, you know, if I start this podcast, at least I have something, you know, potentially to fall back on. And 13 years later, Brilliant Idiots is

its own seven figure business. >> Wow. You've been doing Brilliant Idiots for 13 years. 13 years. That's crazy. I never even realized that. >> Let me ask you a question too. How do you feel >> partnering? Like, you know, y'all have y'all are obviously friends. Y'all work together, but like when Andrew gets involved in like the race stuff and all like how do you continue y'all's relationship but still trying to like educate him but not cross the line? Like how do you maneuver that? >> Not my business. >> Yeah. >> You know, and the reason

I say it's not my business is because it's the same when I got going on. You know what I mean? Like people like to come to me about things. Andrew said, Andrew is a grown ass man with his own opinions, right? Like I don't have nothing to do with that. Like we get on Brilliant, we have our discussions, we have our debates, we've been doing that for 13 years. You keep it moving. Plus, man, this politics thing is fleeting. >> Yeah. >> Right. Like like you know, >> 2016 we went through that, you know, that's

when they was calling him alt-right Andy. And then >> 2020 came, Biden was in office. 2024 he's back. He chose to support Trump. Listen, everybody got the right to be wrong. >> You know what I Because at the end of the day, when you make a decision, right, that person that you voted for, If that person doesn't follow through, you still voted for that person. So if if you're wrong and he takes the country to then you got to eat that. >> Yeah. >> You know, so to me, that's like that that stuff is fleeting,

man. >> You know, >> sometimes I be feeling like I don't know if I could um It'd be hard like if I like if I felt like Drea said something publicly crazy. Now, in the public, we Ain't going I'm not going to get into her about it, but I feel like we would have to have a conversation behind closed doors. >> Yeah, me and Jos definitely have a lot of conversations. Like I said, some of them we bring to the podcast, some of them we don't. But like you said, Drea, your people, right? And and

can't nobody tell you about Drea. Just like can't nobody tell Drea about Lex. Y'all know each other. It's like when I see people Say stuff on social media, uh you know, I be in on on interviews and people bring up shows, I'm like, >> "Y'all don't know him." Like y'all know a perception of him or y'all know a moment that y'all saw. I known the man for 13 years. I know his pops. I know his his mom know that his brother like I know his family. He knows my family. He was at my wedding. Like

I was at his wedding. Like it's just like these this is somebody I actually know. So you Can't tell me about somebody I know. >> Right. That makes sense. That makes sense. [music] >> [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] >> What's up y'all? It's your girl XP >> and it's your girl Dre and Nicole. >> Now y'all know we love to keep that coochie clean. So, we going to tell y'all how much we love Salt XO. Now, I wasn't using this at first. I'm not going to lie, but Drea put me on

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be having sensitive vaginas. She also has a sensitive wash as well. >> Yep. Yep. Yep. Saltexo.com. Use code exopminds. 15% off. Get it clean. >> Don't say we never gave y'all nothing. Now, I want to talk about Breakfast Club, too. Like the dynamic that y'all have because like >> Lauren wanted to come here today, too. >> I love her her and Jess in Atlanta. We all came. We're all here for uh >> Oh, damn. We definitely should have had them on too. >> But she she couldn't come though. She could I mean she she got

to be somewhere and she was asking would it be cutting it close if she came with me? >> A well shout out to our girl >> cuz I do want to ask that like how was that when you know Jess came in? Were you like nervous when like Angela left Like who are we going to replace her with? Cuz it was kind of a revolving door for a second. >> That is a great question >> cuz I mean when something changes and it's so good you be like you know what I'm saying? Like when Destiny

Child switched it up and it worked, but everybody was like >> everybody was enraged. >> Yes. Like they WERE LIKE, "WHERE'S LATAVIA AND LATIA?" >> YES, THEY WERE. >> THEY STILL HAD BEYONCE AND THEY WAS >> AS LONG AS YOU HAD BEYONCE. >> NO, BUT I'M SAYING THOUGH. AND YOU HAD KELLY. YOU had Beyonce and Kelly. Y'ALL CUT IT OUT. WE WERE THERE. >> But you know, I'm from Houston. >> I know. And I love Latoya and I love Latavia. But as long as they had Beyonce and as long as they had Kelly WASN'T NOBODY

REALLY. >> WE WERE NERVOUS. >> WE WAS WE WERE >> YOU WERE NERVOUS. >> I WAS SHAKING IF I can't switch. Yes, I was >> nervous. >> Get your roller. >> WHAT WERE Y'ALL NERVOUS ABOUT IN THAT SITUATION? >> Because I was like this the end. >> Was Michelle going to be a good fit? We weren't. I mean, we didn't know. But she ended up being an amazing fe. >> Yes. I'm not Listen, I'm not disrespecting any of these ladies when I say this. When Latoya and Latavia left, y'all telling me y'all thought it was

the end of Destiny. >> We did. We did. You remember that? >> Days. I remember >> because it was so like >> they hadn't even went solo yet, >> but you could look at them and see. >> No, Beyonce was not Beyonce yet. >> She kind of I don't believe that. I Looked Yeah, >> we looked >> Beyonce and Kelly were always like the standouts. Yes, they were. >> Absolutely. But I think we're looking at it through the cowboy carter lenses of who Beyonce is now. Okay, >> we talking about 1990. Well, we talking about

what 2000 2000 Beyonce. >> I remember we knew she was special, but we didn't know. >> We did. We always knew she was special. >> Well, I didn't think it was the end of Destiny's Child. I was willing to see what they were going to do next. >> And then remember they had two cuz they got and then she dropped off and then it was just Michelle. >> Beyonce had to send her. >> We was like, "What's going on?" That was God though. God likes rhyme. DC3 [laughter] DC4 wouldn't have worked. They needed >> It

wasn't going to work. >> It wasn't going to work. >> But we were nervous. So, were you nervous when Angela left and y'all were like, "Who is going to be this third >> member?" No, >> I wasn't. And and and that's not a knock to, you know, Angela in any way, shape, or form. Like, what we what we built was >> fantastic. You know what I mean? But I man I just have so much belief in me and I have so much faith >> in in in myself that I know whatever you know God causes

to happen around me in any way shape or form I'm it's going to be okay. So I never ever you know got nervous at all because I you know >> so you're saying you're the Beyonce >> huh? >> Yep. That's what he said. Uncle Daddy. >> Well what your mom say? What she say? >> Ain't for nothing. >> Oh man. It's the truth. That's the Truth. No, no, I'm not saying I'm Beyonce. No way. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just simply saying I had faith that me and Envy would be okay. >> I

just really did. I knew it. And I knew it would be fun because my vision for the Breakfast Club has always been for it to be a club, right? Like, you know, you want all of these different multiple members who are able to come through this show and have success. And it was dope that Angelie was was able to go off And get her own show. Like, she has her own show. Way up with Angelie E. that's also nationally syndicated. It comes on right after the Breakfast Club. Her studio is literally 50 feet away from

Breakfast Club studio in in New York City. So, we already had the whole vision and the whole plan. I'm like, it's going to be dope. Angelie is going to go do her own thing. You know, we can rotate guest host for a year and that gives us the opportunity to bring so Many, you know, so much different talent through the room. Y'all came and y'all guest hosted for a while. Yeah, we had a good time, >> you know, and and I was just like, yo, let let let things fall where they may. Like, you know,

you won't even have to decide who should be in the room. God will decide that for you. You just got to make sure that you got all of these different people, you know, that that end up coming through and we ended up With two individuals, you know, and that was always the plan. It was always the plan to where, you know, when Well, let me step back. It wasn't always the plan for us to be a fourman group. It was it was for us to get another co-host. But man, Lauren was so dope, you know,

and she has a senior news producer background coming from TMZ. That was just something we was already looking for. We were looking for that position. And it just so happened that she came in And did, you know, a phenomenal job at both. >> And it's kind of like she's just she's just there >> with something. >> That's what I'm saying. >> I know. That's right. >> But that but that's God. That's why they always say, you know, you can have a good plan. >> Yeah. >> But your good plan isn't always God's Plan for you.

>> Yeah. Right. >> Do you still consider yourself messy? >> Cuz you know they be like you you messy. >> I think we all Man, we all messy. >> I love >> I think everybody messy. We always say we hate people that try to be like if it's not about God getting some money or my kids wasting time. >> Then you wasting time. I don't participate in gossip. I feel like People are everybody gossips with their friends. >> It can it can be all those things. Yes, we love gossip. That's that's why everybody like having

a microphone in front of their face. We love to talk. Okay. Okay. And it's been h this been going on since the beginning of time. You was doing this since elementary school. Okay. This is what we do. Like so messy. I guess I'm no messier than the next person. You know what I mean? I Like some good tea. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF YOU GOT A GOOD STORY, >> I LOVE [laughter] TEA. >> I love a nice little silk. >> Who said what? >> You know what I mean? I like a kik key, right?

[laughter] >> I love a story. >> My favorite thing is when like Drea or Shay, they like send me a headline. I'll be like, "This is juicy." My my favorite thing now cuz I've been around for so Long. I I was born in 1978. [laughter] So, you know, and I used to work with Wendy Williams. I got with Wendy Williams in ' 06. >> There's so much stuff Wendy said over the years. So much stuff she told me privately and publicly. I can't even say privately because there's nothing she said privately that she didn't say

publicly, >> right? >> That I've seen come to fruition in this Entertainment business. >> You know what I'm [laughter] saying? It's like stuff from Clive Davis to Diddy, all of this stuff she been talking about. So that's the wildest thing to me because I'd be like, man, I've heard a lot of stories about this business. So what else is really true? >> And you know what I think things I said this on I have another show called Love Lex P and I said this on Love Lex P. I said we need Wendy back to fight

the Crime that has been going on. Diddy was running a muck. Why? Because Wendy wasn't here to report about it. Yeah. People used to be in hiding about the that they was doing because they knew Wendy was going to get on air and say it all. How you doing? spill all your tea. >> Plus, it was a it was a different era back then. You got to think that that wasn't the under surveillance era. >> Like every we're under surveillance now. Everywhere you go, you might as well just think to yourself, yo, you probably being

recorded in some way, shape, or form or somebody's watching you, somebody's, you know, paying attention to you. Cuz I always say >> everybody's got their own little reality show going on >> and we're all extras in it. [laughter] >> You know what I'm saying? So you you guest starring in somebody's reality show and all you was trying to do is get Through the airport. You always feel like I'm on camera. You cannot convince me that it's not hitting everywhere. No, >> somebody watching you. >> That's why you got to be careful with all them Lex.

>> Yeah. >> You see what [laughter] I'm saying? >> NOW, SEE, NOW WHY AM I IN IT? SO I >> So another thing about Breakfast Club, it's always some controversy, some interesting moments on the show. We have To touch on this cuz you just brought Wendy up. So we have to talk about one of the most recent interesting moments when you had Dame on the show [laughter] >> and he said Wendy Williams is your OG. She is. said that as an insult, but we was over here, too. Like, how is that? >> AND I WAS

MAD CUZ I don't play about Wendy. I'm a Wendy. >> Was that insult? This is a media icon. This is a legend. If we're talking about people who was really doing their thing When she was at the top and she was in her prime, she was that girl. So, how is that a bad thing for her to be your OG? And then also I just want to touch on too how you always just keep your composure in those type of situations because I feel like that's what adds to making people even wor [laughter] and you

just have a certain level of composure that I aspire to have >> stoicism. Plus I've been in worse Situations like I've had guns pulled on me and been sitting there just like that. You know cuz the reality is >> somebody got you if you sitting in the backseat of a car and somebody pull a gun on you what you nothing you can do in that moment. It's like oh well >> I'M BEGGING FOR MY LIFE. NO, I'm not doing that. >> I'mma do something. [laughter] I'm begging. I'mma begging. Please. >> Whatever happens happens in this

moment. But I've had All I'm saying is I've had worse I've been in worse environments. >> I've been I've been in worse situations. >> But they'll still SHOOT YOU. [laughter] >> THAT'S TRUE THOUGH. If that >> EVEN IF YOU BEEN >> THAT'S RIGHT. If that's what's supposed to happen, it's supposed to happen. But I I've been in worse situations. So somebody yelling, screaming, calling me gay, saying they want to fight, it's like, all right, okay. Yeah, I've been In worse situations than that. What was the first part of that question you asked me? I was

talking about Wendy being your OG about Wendy being your OG. >> Wendy is my OG and Wendy is a media icon. There's not too many people in black media who have had the success that Wendy has had like you know and not even just on radio. I was just having this conversation when you think about daytime television >> and correct me if I'm wrong. I can't Think of any black woman who's had a long as run a long of a run on TV as Wendy other than Oprah. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Wendy was on

for like I think 14 years or something. long time. >> And my daddy used to love that's how I know me and be a little messy cuz my daddy USED TO [laughter] LOVE I'M TELLING YOU MY MAMA over there laughing cuz she know my daddy used to love to watch Wendy Williams and she used to be The one that used to be like he just love to watch that show. He love watching all that gossiping. >> And don't nobody gossip. I think men gossip just as much as women. They just call it building. You know

what I'm saying? Building. You know what I mean? They love you. They love you. >> Y'all gossiping. >> They do. >> But but Wendy is my OG. Like she plucked me from South Carolina. I was in Columbia, South Carolina doing radio, you know. >> Columbia's small very tiny. We had a show there. >> Really? >> On our first tour. Was it our first or our second one? >> I think it was the second tour. >> Yeah. You remember where? >> Mhm. >> Uh I don't know what venue it was for where. I think it was

a comedy club. Yeah. Back then we was doing comedy clubs. >> Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. So, I used to be posting content online and you know, she was syndicated on the station that I was on >> and so Highway 1039 in Columbia, South Carolina with Breakfast Club is on there now. And so, I was just posting my content online and she heard a couple of my interviews and she actually reported on a couple of my my interviews that I Did. >> And so, she knew who I was. So, when she came to the market, like

we just showed her that good sovereign hospitality, you know, we was picking her up. This is before Uber. We was picking her up, taking her around, you know, getting her drinks, getting her weed, whatever she needed. >> I know that's how we even formed [laughter] a little >> formed a relationship. >> So, how is Wendy doing now? Like, I know y'all still keep in touch. >> I haven't talked to her since my birthday. My birthday was June of last year. >> Okay. >> I haven't talked to She called me on my birthday. I haven't spoken

to her since then, but she was doing she was in a better place. Um, and she had somebody who I really adore. Her name is Gina Lisa. Gina Lisa is like a a caregiver basically and she she helps um the elderly or or people who end up in like those homes or those guardianships like she helps them you know maintain their dignity or like you know if you don't want to put somebody that you love in one of those situations she can have it set up to where you're basically a caregiver at home like she's

helped my she's helped my my my my family in a lot of ways right >> and so >> she was the person that I connected >> Wendy with, >> okay, >> to help her, you know, get out of her situation. So, even the moving around you got to see Wendy doing last year, that was uh because of Gina Lisa and then, you know, I guess her and Gina Lisa parted ways and Wendy kind of went back >> into the same situation. So, I don't Know where that's at right now. It seems like she's starting back

at square zero. >> Damn. I was hoping we was going to get a Wendy come back. >> Me, too. Cuz when all of Dee stuff started happening, Lex was like, "Oh my god, where is Wendy? This is when we need Wendy. >> We need her to fight the Diddler. She is the only one WHO [laughter] CAN SAVE US. >> WHAT'S UP Y'ALL? It's your girl XP >> and it's your girl Dre Nicole. >> And y'all know we are always talking about financial literacy and getting your finances together. And we're going to help y'all do that

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Remember Wendy saying to us and Lauren Lar Rosa was there. She could attest to this. Wendy said, "I think I'm in this situation because of how I used to talk about people." >> Oh my god. said that and I was like, "What you mean like karma?" And she was like, "No, like God." >> And I was like, "I ain't never heard Wendy mention God a day in my life." But she said like, you know, like like God, you know, I think I I think God has me In this situation because how I used to talk

about people. >> And that was just like, >> wow. You know, >> you know, exactly. So, it just made me feel like, you know what? >> Let me be a little less messy. >> Yeah. For real. [laughter] Like, you just don't you just don't know. Like, I I don't feel like I've ever been as messy as Wendy. >> Yeah. Because like I'm I'm just an Opinionated person. So I'll tell you how I feel about something. I'm not trying I don't care. I'm not trying to pull you out the closet. I don't care who you like.

I'm sorry, Mom. >> No, it's okay. Why talk around Miss Barbara? I don't be saying [laughter] I'm sorry all day. She didn't hurt at all. >> So I'm not I'm not I'm not doing that. But I can't sit here and act like, you know, words don't hurt. Like there People still mad at me for jokes I said to them 15 years ago, you know? So I get it. I think there is a line though because like I said on my show I do you know the hot topics and celebrity gossip but I like to do

in a way where I like talk about the headline, I crack a few jokes and I move on. Like I'm not getting too too deep in it because at the end of the day you have to remember like these are still people. You know what I'm saying? And there's a very thin Line like that a lot of times people cross, right? >> And it gets real real real real real ugly. Like a lot of the people that I see that do the same type of content with the gossip, it's like you don't have to be

nasty. Yeah. >> And just tearing people down constantly. That's why Megan took that lady to court. >> Absolutely. Which is interesting. And I think that it's going to set a precedent For a lot of other celebrities to sue people in the future because she actually got vindicated and she won. >> Oh, Cardi set that precedent. >> Tasha K. Yeah. Yeah. And my um my home girl Bon Nang from South Africa, she did the same thing. Bonang is like a superstar in South Africa. She did the same thing. She sued a blogger for I think it

was for a defamation suit as well and she won. I haven't seen a blogger win yet. But you said something That's very important, man. These people are human at the end of the day. >> That's something you don't realize, right? Like when when like I remember being home in South Carolina looking at all these different celebrities. You used to see them on World Star and stuff like that and they didn't seem human. And you would see these rumors about them like, "Oh, they're in the Illuminati or they, you know, sacrificed seven hamsters to get the

way they are, Right?" And you would be thinking in your mind like, "Yeah, these people must be doing something, you know, evil to get to where they are." But that's only because you don't like the position you in. >> Yep. >> Nobody ever wants to admit that. Nobody ever wants to admit that jealousy and envy is a real thing. You don't even got to be a hating, jealous, envious person. It's just a natural feeling that you get When you see somebody in a position you dream of being. And sometimes it can be so hard and

so difficult where you at, you feel like you'll never get there. So you like there's no possible way that person got there by just believing in God and you know working hard. >> Especially if they at one point they were in a worse position than you currently. >> So you be like how did they crawl they out of there and I can't get out of this Situation I'm in. >> Yeah. >> It's interesting. >> Exactly. So you know when you two things are going to happen. You're gonna have your own success >> and you didn't

do anything nefarious to get there, right? You just worked hard. You believed in God. You believed in yourself and you got the way you supposed to be. And then now people are talking about you the way you used to Look and talk about people. That will change your whole perspective. It'll give you a level of empathy, you know, for these individuals that you didn't have before. And you'll start to meet these people. And when you meet these people and you start actually talking to them and having conversations and seeing their family and seeing their they

parents and seeing their kids and like, "Oh, this just a brother or sister who came from like the same type of Circumstances that I came from who had a very unique talent, a unique skill set. They worked hard. They believed in God and they got to where they supposed to be." Yeah. >> Sometimes it's really just that simple. >> Yeah. I think there's a way to like report on things and just like keep it cute. But I mean, I feel like this conversation is a very good segue into our first topic, which is the state

of journalism. I wanted to ask y'all Because, you know, I feel like it used to be a very clear difference between celebrity gossip and journalism, but social media has blurred those lines. >> So, do y'all think that the state of journalism is, I guess, altered, messed up now because anybody with a phone can break news? >> I I think so. I always say this, if you come to poor minds or love Lex P for some serious HARD DOWN NEWS, YOU ALREADY DOING WRONG. [laughter] WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT LEX P? OH, LET ME SEE WHAT

UH going on in the government today. And you turn on love, Lex B, you got some serious issues. >> So, yes, that line is blurred. I mean, it be people sometimes in my comments like, "Lex, did you watch and this?" No, I didn't. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> The NO, I DIDN'T. I'M HERE TO CRACK some jokes and be on my way. Now, do I have serious conversations about That with my friends and my Yes, absolutely I do. But this is a place where we have a little drink and we have a good time. You know,

>> it's light-hearted banter. >> It's lighthearted banter. Now, I do understand that we have a large platform and we have the power to sway people here and there, but that's exactly what I don't want to do. Like, I'm not here to make lifealtering decisions for you. You know what I'm saying? So, I Definitely think that line is blurred. People literally get on Twitter for for their news. People ain't watching the news for real no more. And people who literally went to school for this and have degrees and, you know, political science degrees and, you know,

can really talk about these things. No, they're like, "Well, I wonder what Drea think about this." >> I mean, >> You know what I'm saying? But you know The reason that uh you know people like yourselves connect with everyday people more than journalists because I think sometimes these journalists as you said Lex they go to school >> and they kind of just learn how to become robots. >> Yeah. >> They forget how to be human. Yeah. >> And so they're not like giving an opinion which you're not supposed to do I guess if you're an

actual news Commentator. You are supposed to just deliver the facts. But if that's the case, you can't get mad at the people that other folks are genuinely connecting with because those people are human. Like, you know, they're expressing real human emotions in real time, especially in this social media era because of the exes and the Instagrams and the Facebooks and everybody can go live and everybody got a podcast. So, people are expressing Real genuine feelings in real time and people are having connections to that. I see the news reporters get mad all the time. I

see the journalists get mad all the I get the I see the political pundits get mad all the time. It's not our fault you not entertaining. It's not our fault that you've been around for so long that you decided to just be robotic about everything. And then I watch the political pundits. >> They just be so like tied to whatever Party it is that they represent that they not speaking >> the way the people are speaking. >> I agree. >> I'm from Monk's Corner, South Carolina. I was home all last week in Charleston and Monks

Corner in Columbia. I'm, you know, >> we was there for trouble. >> You know what I'm saying? [laughter] I'm I'm on my dirt road. Like, I'm minding my business. I'm talking to real people. So, I don't ever lose that. So, the conversations I have are from the perspectives of like what real people in the street are telling me, what real people are feeling. I think sometimes you can be so on your high horse as a journalist that you ain't been down to touch the people in a while and you wonder why the people ain't connecting

to you and why the people are gravitating towards, you know, just people that feel like human beings to Them and not journalists. >> No facts. I feel like people have to touch grass. I think that's the good balance that Lex and I have as well. We went to school and we have mass communications degrees. So, we definitely know how to be journalists, but then we just regular everyday people and we like to make it light-hearted and fun and speak about things in a way that the normal person can understand. >> I didn't go to college.

>> Yeah, that's right. >> I was selling crack. >> What? No, you wasn't. >> My crack did not go off. I would have never feel like you done said that before and I always be thinking you capping. [laughter] >> I was never imagining you. was not no big- time drug dealer in no way, shape, or form, but I used to sell what you used to call quarter spoons and it was Seven grams. You would pay $250 and you would get seven grams of of rock and you would cut it up and you would try to

at least cut it to where you're doubling your money. So, I know that's $160, $480, something like that. So, I was never no big time drug dealer. >> You were selling at work. You was in the kitchen cooking. >> Absolutely. No, I wasn't cooking. >> I was like, you know how [laughter] crap? >> I could cook it on a spoon. >> What a I could cook it on a spoon. I couldn't like >> never GO IN, BRO. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. [laughter] >> BUT >> you can take it back to your roots if you ever need

to. >> No. Hell no. Something has really gone wrong in life if I have [laughter] to have to go back to selling crack. But, you know, I went from >> I went from the streets of Monk's Corner to >> being in the radio station because I was just looking to do something positive in my life. And to to the point that both of y'all just made, I when I my my daddy used to always say to me, if you don't change your lifestyle, you gonna end up in jail, dead, or broke sitting under the tree.

>> And when you start to go to jail yourself and when you start to see People around you actually get killed. And when you start to see people that you used to grow up, you know, like idolizing in a sense, actually just sitting under the tree broke, not doing nothing with their life, you like, oh, my daddy telling the truth. So I was just like, you know what? let me start doing just positive things because I believe in this acronym called peace and it's positive energy activates constant elevation. >> So I just wanted to do

positive things. So I was working in the mall. I was working at a clothing store in the mall called demo. I did telemarketing. I worked at a flower garden. I was just doing all of these different hustles >> like me. >> That is a hustle man. >> Word up. I was doing all these different hustles just because I did not want to go back you know to the street. And then I was uh you know like most young black Men in the hood. I wanted to rap. Right. the people who was dropping. >> CAN YOU

SEE? [screaming] OH MY GOD. CAN YOU SEE THAT YOUR DEMO? We want to hear it. >> Do you remember a bar that you used to rap? I was like, I killed this. >> Man, [laughter] YOU KNOW THE BAR? >> WHAT YOU MEAN YOU DON'T REMEMBER? >> NO. You know why? CUZ I SUCKED. >> AND I'M GOING TO tell you why I sucked. I sucked. Because whenever I would go in The studio, I couldn't never catch the beat. >> And I had a my mentor. His name is Dr. Robert Evans. >> Twins. >> You tried to

rap, too? I if I did, I probably couldn't come. [laughter] SHE DON'T SHE DON'T GOT A lot of rhythm. I don't have no rhythm. >> My mentor, Dr. Robert Evans, he owned the label. And I remember him just telling me one day, "All right, listen. You suck." >> Okay. >> But you got a good ear for talent and you damn good at that radio. That's what you need to focus on. So you going to be an off of the label, right? Y'all remember, y'all don't even know what an offs are. >> You gonna be an

off of the label and you gonna focus on radio. And that's what I did. So, do you feel like in that moment you might have projected on Safari when He was rapping and he was like, "No, that ain't it." >> No, I'm just I'm I just know what whack rap sounds like and because I used to do it, [laughter] right? So, oh, but my point, I used to get on the radio when when I first started getting on the radio, I didn't know what I was doing. >> Okay. >> Nobody taught me. I didn't do

college radio or anything like that. So, I Always say the best thing that I had when I first started with radio was not knowing how to do it. So, the only thing I could do was be myself. Yeah. So >> I would I would be coming from most corners, sometimes drunk, sometimes high, >> and just getting on the ed talking. No, not off crack, off weed. >> Oh my [laughter] god. I feel like he would have a little I wish he WOULD HAVE LESS TEETH IF HE WAS DOING THE CRACK. >> And so I would

answer phone. I would just be answering the phones and >> talking to people like just regular. And so that was different than what everybody else was doing. And that's always been my mind state. Just show up. Show up and be yourself. >> I know Charlamagne wasn't doing great. He got his side too. >> It don't matter. Still got my >> You can see some functioning crackheads now being that you sold crack. You could Probably eyeball a crackhead. Is there people in the industry like they're on >> like I know they on something. >> Oh yeah,

absolutely. I >> But coke and crack is different. >> Coke. >> Crack is whack. >> Crack is fried cocaine. >> Yeah. >> Crack is f >> crack fried >> It is. That's all you're doing. All You're doing is taking the coke, adding a little baking soda to it. You know what I'm saying? Frying it up. >> COME ON NOW, CHEF. [laughter] >> Bacon soda. I got baking soda. >> Chef Charlotte. I I can definitely see. I can man and and going to therapy. I can see when somebody's dealing with real mental health issues and having

an episode >> and ain't nobody intervening. >> Like we've seen that quite a few times. >> I do want to touch on that because I feel like you're one of the very few black men in the industry that is always advocating for mental health. Why is it so important to you? >> I mean, because it just helped me. I'm the type of person like if something has benefited me in any way, shape, or form, I just want to share it with people. And plus, when I started talking about it back in 2016, like people thought

I was joking at like I'm going to therapy Every day at at 3:00 and it was like a joke. It be like people would call in like, "All right, sh I know you going to be at, you know, Friday at 3:00." But then after a while, people like, >> "Wait a minute. >> Something's different. I see something, >> you know, changing a little bit." And it was because of it was because of therapy. So it was just for me when I started to talk about it and and and express you know dealing with anxiety And

dealing with bouts of depression man so many other people started coming to me having conversations about it like you know >> you know women would come up to me saying their husband started going to therapy because of me or their brother started going to therapy because of me and so I just realized it was just something that was you know bigger than me. >> Yeah. >> You know that's when I ended up starting my my nonprofit which is called um the mental wealth alliance. >> Okay. And what we want to do is we want to

provide um you know free therapy to like 10 million people over the next 5 years. >> That's amazing cuz I we do talk about mental health a lot because I think in our community like we don't take that stuff serious. Like I didn't realize what anxiety really was until I got Older cuz I didn't know what was going on myself. I didn't know what you know seasonal depression was. Like I really didn't understand it till I did my own deep dive and I had to get into therapy like after my mom passed. So it's like

I didn't even understand the process of like grieving. You don't understand a lot of stuff when you just never talk about it. Like that was some I had a very close relationship with my mom growing up. But like talking about Depression and stuff like I didn't even know depression was a thing cuz they make depression look like a certain thing. >> Like it's like oh that's only something like the emo kids are doing like and being sad and doing all that and >> like you don't wash you stop shaving. >> Yeah. And it's like depression

looks like so many different things. Depression can be somebody being overly happy and showing up for everybody and Just trying to stay busy and doing so many things and you don't even realize they are struggling on the inside. >> Staying busy is a response to trauma in a lot of cases. It is. >> Yes. 1,000%. >> People be trying to run from their but you can't run from yourself. That's the other thing too. That's another reason I started to talk about it so much because it's just like I wanted to encourage other black men to

stop running. you Know, like you don't got to run from yourself. Like, you know, we all got a bunch of unhealed trauma that we haven't dealt with. Stop. Take the time for yourself. And that's part of like like selfcare. Like, I hate people who take better care of material items than they do their own >> bodies and brains. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Your room's cleaner than you. >> You know what I'm saying? [laughter] >> I think people like to think that a lot of people like to think that nothing is wrong

with them. Like it's the acknowledgement of realizing, okay, maybe this is why I do this. I think sometimes people just want to think it's like a quirky thing about their personality. Like a lot of people have ADHD and being busy all the time is a response to that, but you're walking around undiagnosed. So, you don't even Know that you have ADHD and you've been having it your whole life since you was a child. I found out from my therapist that I have ADHD, >> but I found out like two years ago. Yeah. >> I probably

had ADHD, too. But back when I was young, they just wanted to put me on riddling. They just thought I was bad. Yes. [laughter] >> Little badass little boy. MY DADDY SAID HE NEED THAT WAS ON RIN. They was like stay away from >> facts. Facts. They was on riddling when we was kids. But yes, it's like it's even in small things like I get distracted easily. Like I'll be about to send a text to somebody then something to happen and then I'll forget to respond. And my therapist was like, I think you have ADHD.

And she like did this test on me and I found out that I did have it. >> You got to take your brain back. I like even what you said just now. I think a lot of that just has to do with technology. Technology is just a scratchless now. Yeah, >> you be thinking about one thing and then you go to your phone for something. Next thing you know, you down a rabbit hole or something else. You forgot what you were supposed to do. >> You on TikTok trying to figure out how to deep fry

a turkey. >> You see what I'm saying? >> That happens to me [laughter] all the time. >> You got to take your brain back. >> I wonder what's riddling them. [snorts] >> Um, wouldn't that be >> whatever it is, they popping it for recreational purposes? >> Isn't that What's the one that the college kids always take? Add aderall. Is that the same thing? >> I know. You know, I wonder. >> Is it like rebranded? I think that's what it is, baby. >> It probably is. >> You know what I'm saying? cuz we don't hear riddling

anymore. >> But I I do want to say though, I think that also when you see people on the internet and they're talking, stop diagnosing people in the comments. I hate to see that. They like, "Oh, he's autistic. Oh, girl, YOU GOT ADA." SHUT UP, GIRL. [laughter] CUZ THEY BE IN THE COMMENTS DOING THAT TO ME. This lady wrote a long Do you remember that comment? >> I do. >> THIS LADY AUTISTIC. SHE SAID I WAS AUTISTIC, ADHD, >> not high function, >> LGBTQ. She gave me ALL THE ALPHABET. CHARLEMAGNE, I SAID I'M JUST A

that used to smoke a little crack. [laughter] >> And this And mind you, she's never smoked crack a day in her life. Lexi's crazy. >> I smoked it once. >> You did? >> No. [laughter] No. >> You smoked crack? >> No, it was cocaine in a blunt of weed, but I didn't know that it was >> Sound like A GOOD TIME TO the name. We happy new year for real. [laughter] >> It was though. I'm not going to lie. >> It was good. >> It It was I would do it again by accident. But [laughter]

it was it was I remember that high bib day. >> Sometimes you have a high that's so good you' be like, I understand it. >> But that's crazy though because at least you were able to be like, ooh, this was too good, but I'm not going to do it again. Most people would do it again and that's how they end up falling down their hole. >> But you know what it was? I thought it was weed. I was just looking for whatever that weed was. I didn't realize until much later in life like, >> "Oh,

THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS." >> Cuz you can, you know, you know the smell. You know what I mean? So, I was like, "Oh, that was I used to call them woolless." >> Y'all got some names. >> Florida used to call it [laughter] boo. >> Y'all got some names. [laughter] >> Okay. It needs to be the name of the episode. But yes, [laughter] we >> we got some >> y'all got some names on Call of M. [laughter] >> I'm so sorry. We was supposed to get to you a long time. >> A LONG TIME AGO. >>

What are we drinking? >> Oh IT'S LIKE ANDY COHEN. >> YES, WE GOT A WHOLE SET UP. >> YEAH. So for our guest today, Mr. Charlemagne the God, we going to keep it We going to spill the tea. That's what they've been doing. So we going to keep it warm for you. We have a tea. I know he likes green tea. So, I want to kind of play into that. I made, y'all know I love to play in syrups. I made a tea syrup. So, I have like some cardamom, some green tea, some vitamin C,

um a Little bit of chamomile in there. I made that into a syrup, like a honey agave syrup. Um we added some tequila, some banana laor, and a little bit of lemon juice. And then this is served warm or if you want to shake it up over ice, really good. But since it's cold outside, we're going to keep it warm like a little hot totty. And then we garnished it with a dehydrated orange. So >> love that. >> Cheers to you. >> That sounds really really >> And I didn't even name it. A little sip

of it. >> This is the black effect. >> We love that. >> You ever smoke crack? >> I will do it. >> NO, YOU WOULD CUT IT OUT. >> I LIKE THAT CHICAGO. >> I am from Chicago. But I would do anything once and I'll DO IT ON MY >> ON MY DEATHBED WHEN I'M ABOUT TO go out. Just give ME >> GIVE ME THAT ROCK. YEAH. [screaming] >> WHY THOUGH? THERE'S A million things you should be thinking about when you on your deathbed. Crack isn't one of them. >> Yeah. >> I don't know where

my mind will go. I feel like it'll just like LIKE REALLY [laughter] >> FLYING UP WITH THAT PIPE in your hand. >> Exactly. >> People learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. >> Fact where crack has taken people. >> That's why I never wanted to smoke no crack. I TOO MANY. I had crackheads in my family. >> Oh, not you telling at all. >> I ain't say who it was. [laughter] >> The only plus I think there is about crack is that I ain't seen a crackhead die yet. THAT'S

A PLUS [laughter] FOR ME. GIVE ME THREE OF THEM. >> NO, for real. It be giving him immunity. >> Now, see, y'all ain't right. Well, this episode is being brought to y'all by Taylor. Shout out to our people at Taylor. That's why we over here cutting up. Y'all know what I keep in my cup. >> For New Year's Eve, we needed something light, sparkly, and perfect for a countdown toast. So, we brought out the rosé resolution spritz. This spritz starts with Taylor for that sweet, rich Base. Then we brighten it up with rosé procco, a

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Yeah, they we know what you meant. >> That's dope, though. I like that touch over there. >> Yeah. Okay. What What we got? >> So, as y'all know, this is a Taylor Poor Sponsor episode. So, y'all know we got to get into our poor decision of the week, >> which is basically where we just talk about something that we did this week that we was like, that wasn't really the greatest idea. Yeah. >> So, Lex, what was your poor decision this week? >> My poor decision this week was I had friends giving at my house.

You did? And we had a ball, right? Everything was Good. Everything was fantastic. Okay. We had Brussels sprouts. Drea made the uh the green beans busting. We had mac and cheese. We had jerk chicken. WE HAD THE WHOLE NIGHT. >> We had appetizers, alder, devild eggs. They was tearing them devild eggs up, right? >> Me, too. >> But I decided to start drinking right before I started cooking the lamb chops. And I ain't never cooked no lamb chops Before. So I put them in the oven and I didn't cover them up. >> DAMN. >> AND

THEY GOT THEY GOT TOUGH AS IN THE BOTTOM OF MY FEET. GODDAMN IT. >> YOU could throw it through a window. >> Now they were still eating them. They said they was good cuz they were seasoned. They was nice. >> Who was you feeding them to? >> Uh my friends. >> Women. Other women. >> Okay. I thought [laughter] it was a guy just lying. >> It just wasn't giving tender. You know what I'm saying? But now I know how to cook lamb tacos. I learn and I hope everybody at the house learn from my mistakes

like you said. >> So let me ask you a question. This the New Year's episode, right? >> They're not going to think it's crazy that you said you had friends given this week. They be like, "Damn, how long is Y'all going to have friends giving?" >> Your legs, you shouldn't have said. [laughter] >> WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? GOD DAMN IT. WE HAD FRIENDS GIVING LAST MONTH. Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THE HELL [laughter] I MEANT. >> Y'all know we be recording in the end. >> SHUT UP, GIRL. AND DON'T SAY NOTHING [laughter] IN THE COMMENTS ABOUT IT.

HAPPY NEW YEAR. >> AND AIN'T GOING TO CALL IT OUT, TOO. They probably wouldn't even know these. >> NO, THEY WOULDN'T. Y'ALL IN HERE WITH ALL [laughter] THE NEW YEAR'S EVE STUFF. >> I mean, yeah. Fact. We do got a whole little disco ball on the table. [laughter] >> Right. Okay. Party. >> What was your poor decision? Either one of y'all. >> What's yours, Charlamagne? >> Poor decision? >> Mhm. >> I don't think I made any poor choices, Do I mean, my poor choice is probably boring. Like, I I probably ate something with some dairy

in it, and I shouldn't have had no dairy in it. So, it gave me the runs and a little spicy. >> Gave me the runs and a little pimple. I ain't do nothing crazy. >> Such a rebel. >> You know [laughter] what I'm saying? I I ain't do nothing crazy this week. >> Some mozzarella know what it was. [laughter] I I haven't done nothing crazy this week. >> Thus far life is that's a good life. >> Plus I I believe in choices. So if I made a choice, it's a choice I made. That wasn't a

that wasn't a poor decision. >> Yeah. >> That's true. >> What about a poor business decision that you've made? >> Oh, I've made tons of those. Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean that that's that's that's that is the that is the beauty of entrepreneurship. The beauty of entrepreneurship is everything not going to hit. Like I've thrown I've thrown way more things against the wall than things that have that have actually stuck, >> you know, but I think people act people never want to tell you that part. They never want to tell you like, you know, all

of the the the the decisions they made that didn't go right as far as Business. It's like, you know, I I we had a dispensary in Newark, you know, >> last year, >> but you can't beat the open air market in New York, you know, so it it had to close down. Like that's >> that's the game, right? You know, but >> me and my wife own Crystal franchises in South Carolina. Those are doing good, >> right? So, it's just like, you know, it's just either or like when you when you got a bunch of

different hustles and You got a bunch of different, you know, revenue streams coming through. Some going to work, some won't. And you got to be able to take the good with the bad. >> You win some, you lose some. >> That's what they say. And that's that's a fact. >> What's your poor decision? >> My want to say that our mama sitting there. >> No, it's it really ain't nothing that Bad to be honest. My poor decision is, okay, I found out about this market out here in Atlanta that you could go to and you

can get like vegetables and stuff chopped up that's already like ready for you to cook when you get ready to cook your Christmas dishes, your Thanksgiving dishes, whatever. So, I found this place and I decided to go there the day before the holiday and I stood in line for 45 minutes for some turkey wings. [snorts] >> Why was that a poor decision? >> Because I shouldn't have waited to go the day before. I should have went like a few days before and it probably wouldn't have been as crazy because basically it's like multiple different meat

markets in there and it's multiple different vegetable markets and produce markets or whatever. So, it was only one stand that still had turkey wings >> and the line was outside the door. I had to wait in line 45 minutes for six turkey wings. >> Was the food worth it? >> It was worth it. >> I didn't have the turkey wings. >> My wings was busty. >> They did look nice and tender. >> They was real juicy. They was Shay had some. They was juicy. They was good. And this is my first time making turkey wings,

too. So, I think it was, you know, it was for the greater good, but terrible decision. >> This is a great segment, >> but I think y'all should do it when y'all really made a poor decision. >> You don't think that was a >> No, I don't think either ONE OF Y'ALL MADE >> IT WHILE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COOKING. NO, >> THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY [laughter] DOES. THEY POUR THEM A glass of wine, drink. You know what I'm saying? You just was absent minded. That wasn't that liquor that made you forget that lamb Was in

that oven. It was something else. Nope. You started running YOUR MOUTH >> WHEN I SMOKED CRACK. YES, THAT'S THAT'S REAL porn decision. >> But she [laughter] ain't do that for me. >> That is true. That is true. >> We moving on up. I'm doing a COKE LACE BLUNT NEXT TIME. >> BUT CHARLAMAGNE, isn't that a good thing? That's a testament to our growth. We don't be making super poor decisions up 18 when we first started this. >> I'm telling you, I had to think about it, too. Like, I'm like, I don't really choices. Not by

not on purpose, >> right? We living on the the righteous path now. >> Yeah. the poorest decision I made this week. Honestly, >> yeah. And we don't want to talk about THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS OF BLACK PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. THIS IS NOT A TYLER PERRY MOVIE. >> DAMN. [laughter] >> WHAT? >> TYLER PERRY. I LOVE YOU. >> HEY, I'M TYLER PERRY CAST us now. >> I love a Tyler Perry movie now. Y'all know I love >> your favorite one. People be fronting on Tyler Perry like Tyler Perry. Hands down the drama with >> remember

when she held down that broke ass with the Rajie P. Henson like he got about 10 with Rogers. >> Well, WHEN SHE HELD DOWN THE broke ass and then all of a sudden um she finally left him and then he got money and remarried. >> I don't think I saw that. >> And then she was like on the boat and was like trying to kill him but they ended up shooting her AND SHE DIED. >> NO, >> WAS T. >> IT WAS SO GOOD. I have a few actually. >> The family that praise >> diary

of a mad black woman classic. And then that one with that man where he said ASHTRAY [screaming] >> A BAR. DADDY'S GIRL IS CLASHING. >> DADDY'S fall from grave. >> Fall from grave >> on family that praise when she said my son is a cartright. I said you thought you ate that only for [laughter] that white man to leave her. >> Leave her hot. >> Oh, THAT'S THE ONE WITH LEON. OH YEAH, THAT'S CLASSIC. THAT'S CLASSIC. That's classic. That's classic. >> Daddy's girl with Idris El >> with Idris Ela and Gabrielle Union. >> HE WAS

TAKING GABRIELLE UNION. >> Oh my [laughter] god, man. when when HIS OH MY GOD WHEN HIS WHEN HIS DAUGHTERS come over >> yo Idris killed that like you you could feel the pain when his daughters come over and tell him what happened he WAS LIKE GOD [laughter] DAMN IT I GOT TO GO back to jail CUZ I GOT TO FIL RIGHT NOW [screaming] YOU YOU SAW HIM THINKING about it and contemplating he was like I got to do IT I GOT TO GO BACK TO PRISON RIGHT NOW >> OH MY GOD >> BUT WHY WOULD

THEY PUT that as the background music whooping [laughter] that man I was born by the river. >> Yes, we a little >> Why did they play that song? >> I DON'T KNOW. [laughter] >> OH, CUZ CHANGE IS GOING TO COME. >> OH, CHANGE. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. THERE you go. There you go. NO, LEX [laughter] IS RIGHT. CUZ CHANGE going cuz the whole neighborhood changed AFTER THAT. YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THAT WAS LIKE when Dino Brown got shot in New Jack City. They they they finally took out the RIFF RAFF. I'M TELLING

YOU RIGHT. And you know what? And I don't like the backlash that Tyler Perry gets because honestly he does the same thing as uh what's his name? Ryan Murphy that does all they do the same thing except Ryan Murphy just have him and John Paul Gothier. That's the only difference. >> You know this is this is how you know ain't never satisfied. I'm going tell you why. Because Tyler Perry literally does everything we say we want black people to do. >> He's independent. He's an entrepreneur. He don't answer to nobody. He got his own studio.

All he does is cast black people and keep black people working. All he does is tell black stories. Now, you may or may not like the stories. That's, you know, it's artist subjective. So, you can have that conversation, but other than that, he is the blueprint to what we want black people to do and black people to be. >> Yeah, >> I agree. I'm unofficially on Tyler Perry's street team. I'm always pro promote for him. >> Me, too. Because I always say this, as unrealistic as people say his shows and his movies are, it's enter.

But you was entertained, wasn't you? >> Why is his movies always be on the edge of my seat every time? >> I don't be thinking they unrealistic either. [laughter] >> But people say that. >> I know I do hear people say that, but I've seen some wild stuff in my life. So like, you know, I don't I don't think it's unrealistic at all. >> One of my favorite shows is Sisters. I always be I love Sisters. It's so It's so good because it's no way four be going through all of this every week. They always

going through something. But you got to look at sisters like a comedy. >> It is >> like don't approach it like you watching a drama. >> Like something to see. >> If you approach it like you about to laugh, you going to have a good goddamn time. >> What was the movie with Lance Gro? >> Week is some drama. >> Um >> what was the movie >> with Kim Kardashian in there and Lance Groves? >> Tim Kim K was in a Tyler Perry movie. >> Yes, she was. But not with Lance. >> Now that Temptation

made me mad because it was like finally she gonna leave her boring ass husband for a fine ass rich ass man. We're going to give him a >> You never seen that movie with Journey Smolier? >> Yeah. Mole, mole, Jessie, Jessie, I knew what she meant. I knew what she meant. I knew what she WAS TALKING ABOUT. >> YEAH, I KNEW WHAT SHE MEANT. Y'ALL NOT BE HAVING >> Jessie sister. >> Do you think Jesse did it? >> Did what? >> Okay. [laughter] Li. >> Do you think he lied after watching the documentary? >> Yeah,

I thought he I mean I thought that when I first heard the story. >> None of that story. YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING THAT made me because I like to Believe people who say they're victims, but when I was watching that documentary and he made it back to the house and that sandwich was intact and he was still able to eat his Subway sandwich, my investigative journalism went off. >> I respect him though. >> Yeah. >> You know why I respect him? I respect people who double triple down on on >> ones. You know what

I'm saying? >> Yeah. I'mma give up after I GET CAUGHT. I'M LIKE, [laughter] YOU GOT ME, MAN. YOU GOT ME, MAN. >> I'M NOT I'MMA take it to the grave. I'MMA KEEP LYING. AND IF I HAD LIED ALREADY, YOU MIGHT AS well keep going. >> I RESPECT IT. AND BY THE WAY, WE KNOW. >> YEAH. >> We just don't care. And that be the crazy thing about it sometime. Like we think people care more than they do. Like, man, we don't care, man. Grab a drink. We know you lie, man. We don't Give a damn.

>> And they made a whole big thing out of it. I feel like just >> because he made a whole big thing out. >> He [laughter] did. He did. It was so crazy. >> The documentary made you I didn't watch the documentary. >> NO. IT DIDN'T MAKE me change my mind. I was just kind of like, it kind of confirmed like the holes in the story that I were questioning. It made me be Like, "This is why I was questioning it." And it's still like, "You're you're kind of not coming through." >> Yeah. >> You

know what I'm saying? >> So, um, >> he been getting some acting gigs lately, though. He came back from it cuz I seen him on Amazon Prime myself. >> Oh, not Amazon. >> I mean, he didn't hurt nobody. I mean, the only person he hurt in that Situation was himself. >> Yeah. >> It was like, how you you going to cancel him? Cuz he did some stupid to himself. >> He just knew he was going to be the next Brad Pitt. Okay. >> He said, "I'm coming. I'm coming out. I want the world to know.

>> Okay, we gonna move on to the topic. Oh, >> you want to do the second? Okay, go ahead. >> Okay, so for topic number two, because I feel like this is funny cuz we talked about it a little bit earlier in the episode and I feel like people do always try to say this about you. They always be trying to like insinuate that you're not masculine or that you are very feminine. So, I wanted to talk about the crisis of fragile masculinity. Why these days are men so afraid of being called feminine? Or do

they think I guess they think that certain things That they do will make them look like they're not a man? >> Yeah, that's it is it is an interesting topic because even when I hear people try to use woman as an insult. >> Yeah. >> Like, oh, you acting like a girl. You acting like a You know, it's like >> So, you think women aren't strong? Is that what you're saying? Like, you know what I Because I I mean my whole life I've seen the women hold it down a lot More than the men have,

right? Because you know and and and the way I was I grew up like my dad did his thing, my uncles did they things, >> but they also was out here whing and cheating and all types of stuff and you know was leaving you know the the the wives to have to fit the bills in a lot of ways. So you know I watched my mom >> hold down a house full of four or five kids while my dad was you know in and out of rehab trying to get it together. Right. I watch my

grandmother, you know, be the only person living in her house, you know, working it as a lunch lady every day and and holding it down for all her grandkids and her kids. So, it's just like I don't know why people like to use women as an insult. Guys that do that make me feel like, and I'm sorry, mom, they they like but don't like women. >> That's true. I've really noticed that. Like, they just don't like women that They don't look at us like people. They look at us as objects. >> Objects. So, you're supposed

to do this for me. You're supposed to turn me on or you're supposed to cook for me and do things for me. But a lot of men do not view women as humans at all. >> It's a lot of misogyny. I mean, I feel like it's always been, but these days, especially with social media, I feel like it's definitely been highlighted even more. >> Yeah. >> And what makes a person act like a woman? Like, how do you act like a woman? >> Well, I for me it be the gay comments. Like, oh, that gay.

Nothing makes a man gay in my opinion other than sleeping with a man. >> Sucking a dick. >> Huh? >> Oh yeah. Oh, there you go. Same deal. You all said the same. Like said eating Butt. She Grace said sleeping with a man. I said sucking dick. That's all. >> Different font. >> But unless [laughter] unless you're doing one of those things, that's the only way that you're gay. >> But even with that doing the bending, >> they say that's who [laughter] doing the bending. >> Tyler, he gave us some onelining. >> That's another one.

Even with that, that's not that's not an insult to me Either. It's like, okay, what's if you are gay, what's wrong with this person being gay? >> And and and I know some gay guys that'll beat your ass. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? >> I'll [laughter] beat your ass. Seriously, >> cuz I leg press 245. >> We women strong, too. >> But I do feel like using gay as an Insult is so like what are we doing here? It is like that's like a 1995 insult. Like to me, it's just like

it's very shallow. Yeah. And it's a lowhanging fruit. >> I think and I I just came up with this theory recently. I think men that want to know if another man is gay >> are attracted to that man. >> I agree. >> Cuz it's like when you see a bad girl, right, and you like, damn, yo, I wonder If she's single. You know what I'm saying? So, you got to say something to her or try her in some way just to see if there's some rhythm there. So, you just want to throw it out that,

yo, I think he's gay. Is that what you hoping for? >> Yeah. Honestly, when men are extremely extremely homophobic to like a point, it's like, why are you so affected by people being gay, when they're extremely homophobic, that kind of brings up like A little like, what's going on with you and your feelings on the inside? It It always feels like projection to me. >> Their uncle might have sucked them off when they was >> now. See, [laughter] >> but he ain't wrong. >> No, it's true. >> Because it it's so many men. It's it's

actually frightening the amount of men that you can have conversations with now in adulthood that will say things so Nonchalantly like, "Oh, I lost my virginity at 12 years old. I lost my virginity at 2 years old to a to a 21year-old woman or to a How was she?" >> She was in her 20s. I was eight. >> Is Is she in jail? >> No, [laughter] SHE NOT IN JAIL. >> NO, WE'RE GOING TO LOCK THAT UP. >> SHE NEED TO BE. LEXUS, >> she need to be cuz I know she geriatric [laughter] now. >>

She um How old is she now? She probably In her 50s. >> Okay, baby. >> We can still lock that up. But if I was Damn. No. Yeah, she way old. She probably like in her 60s. >> Yeah. >> 60s. >> That's terrifying though cuz that shouldn't have happened. >> Well, she was >> You should have been protected. >> She She was a She was a member of my Family. She's not a member of my family no more. >> What? She was removed. >> I hope so. >> She It was a divorce. >> Oh, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was, >> you know, they be saying twice. >> I used to actually say exactly what she was, but nowadays lawsuits be so crazy. But she used to be married into my family and then she uh got divorced and She used to let me suck her breast and >> used to >> Oh my god. >> That's horrifying though. >> That is at 8 years old. >> I was 8 years old. And the crazy thing about it is when you a young man, you you you enjoy it. >> Yeah. >>

So it's it's kind of confusing, but then you like, man, I don't want her touching on me. So I used to have these little Fire cracks. Remember the little fire cracks? used to throw and it used to pop. So I start I remember sitting on my grandma porch and whenever an adult would leave, she'd come and I just started throwing it at her. Get away from me. Get away from me. Get away from me. >> And um >> that's kind of sad though. You have to use fireworks to protect yourself [laughter] >> cuz I'm trying

not TO LAUGH. I'M JUST I'm imagining him throwing THEM FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE. >> YEAH. >> I told myself that the reason I didn't want her to do it is because I didn't like the smell of her Jerry curl. >> She had a Jerry curl. >> This was [laughter] Jesus. She's like 87, 88. >> But honestly, all jokes aside, how did that affect you? Like once you became Older, like do you feel like it had >> It made me a people pleaser. And the reason it made me a people pleaser is because when I when

I made her stop, she started like calling me ugly. >> So she'd be like, "Oh, you ugly. You got a big nose." And she to the point where she would tell my grandma, "His nose is swollen. Look at his nose." And so my grandma would put like this cream on my nose, right? >> Oh my god. >> SHUT THE [laughter] UP. NO, BUT I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT THE TRAUMA. >> Not trying to segue into another topic because that is a very serious topic that I think we don't never touch on is a lot of the

time black men in our community and how they were like molested as we didn't realize it was that. But also that too, like growing up in black families and like your older people in your family trying to make you think that stuff was like wrong with Like your skin tone, your >> Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. >> Because I remember, and I I've talked about this before on the show, my best friend, her grandma, when we were growing up, like in high school, in the summertime, you know, you get a tan and stuff. >> So,

in the summer, we would get a little darker and she would be like, "Y'all need to go bathe in Epson salt." >> Damn. >> And scrub y'all stuff as if that's going to like scrub the brown off. But mind you, her whole family was like light-kinned. And she was probably like the dark the darkest person in the family. And then, of course, I'm her friend. I'm darkkinned, too. So her grandmother just used to be like, "Y'all need to go bathe in Epson salt because y'all already borderline." She like, "Y'ALL NEED TO GO." >> I I

grew up loving melanin. Yeah. >> And cheering when Nino Brown stabbed, you know, the pretty from the bank in the handjack city. Like that was always my experience. >> Yeah. >> Did you have experiences like that? Cuz even with my mom, she would always tell me like about her experiences growing up because >> like four of them were dark-kinned, right? Well, three three were dark Skinned and then three were light-skinned. So, she would always tell me like the differences in the experiences that they experienced with their family members. >> You know what? I never experienced

none of that. Like even growing up with my friends, cuz obviously all my friends were white. I really did not see all this red bone, yellow bone, brown skin. I'm like why? And people still to this day, she's not a yellow, she's red, She's no just talking to people in general, like trying to categorize what we are about our skin. We're we're black. >> I never heard that till I got to college and I thought it was the craziest and weirdest thing. Like I said, >> um, being around my family, like my aunts and my

uncles are darkkinned. My mom was like, she was a little lighter. You know what I'm saying? But I never like categorized people like that. you Were just either black or you weren't. >> So, I think that that's crazy that still to this day, I saw a Tik Tok literally yesterday of this man just like going off like, "Y'all need to know the difference between red bone and yellow bone." Why? >> Why? >> What is white people? >> That's a fact. [laughter] >> That's how I be feeling about them Caribbean conversations. It's like, man, If you

Jamaican and you from Atlanta and y'all both walking down the street, all the white men see is two black people. >> Yes. That's it. >> That's it. So, I just think that's crazy that that conversation, that dynamic is still going on. Like, go ahead, Ty. She's >> my mom my mom, God bless her soul, used to make me wear bleaching cream. >> Really? >> Like, I remember being like second, Third grade cuz I was always the darkest of my siblings, but I remember being and it used to burn. So, I used to hate putting it

on. And it wasn't until I got older that I realized like what it actually was. But she was trying to lighten my skin. >> What was it? Ambi >> Nadiola. >> Oh, I don't know. M my booty. [laughter] >> It used to come in a little jar, but it Used to burn my face. >> Be a little dark. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> How y'all know? >> Cuz do you see it in the mirror? All you got to do is bend over. >> Sh. You ain't never looked AT YOUR BOOTY HOLE. [laughter] I MEAN, I'VE SEEN

A booty hole, but I ain't never looked at mine. >> I LOOKED AT YOURS. YOU NEVER WAS IN A MIRROR like >> you. That's health stuff. You supposed to check all down there. >> What the hell? I ain't never had a doctor say you should check your booty hole >> periodically. Well, with women, so it's more of an aesthetic thing. Like you want it to match the rest of >> Oh, like after you get waxed and everything. >> Yeah. Well, you just want it to match the rest of your skin tone, but Realistically, like, you

know, your private parts are darker than the rest of your body. >> No, I don't want the booty hole to match the rest of the skin tone cuz I want to know where the booty hole is. Cuz you got [laughter] TO THINK IF YOU >> YEAH. CUZ IF YOU IN if you in a room and the lights ain't really lit, you know what I mean? Like you got to be able to see the contrast. Be be sitting there licking the cheek thinking you eating Ass. And >> but I feel like if the lights ain't lit,

it's going to be harder to find. if it matches cuz you know what if you going click the booty click the booty click the booty from the back like you can't do you KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IT NEEDS TO >> MAMA IS OVER THERE crying >> I'm going to start throwing the fireworks on this conversation [laughter] >> but now Cuz we didn't even address what Tai said that's crazy but I feel like that's that's traumatizing too and that's something that happened to a lot of people growing up >> yeah I think that was the one

thing I will say like my mom protected me a lot from growing up like I didn't realize cuz I actually did go through a lot with like racism and my >> You grew up around a lot of white people. >> Cuz I grew up a lot around a lot of white people, but I give kudos to not only my mom, but my close friends, their parents as well, cuz they didn't play about me and they didn't play that Like I was very blessed to have a um I don't want to say this, but like a

certain type of white people that were around me that helped raise me. Like my best friend, um Lindsay, shout out to Lindsay. Her her mom Renee, she always just made me feel like a part of them. So, I never really got that feeling different or separate till I moved to a big city and things like that. So, I really didn't experience much until I got older and I realized, oh, this lady was mean to me and treating me like this because I was black. Like, I was very unaware and oblivious, like very ignorant to all

that stuff that was >> So, you grew up like it was more about class than race. >> Um, I think it was a little bit mix of Both. See, cuz I grew up very uh I won't say very wealthy, but I was blessed. I didn't have like a average house. I grew up in a very big house. Pull in the backyard. That type of life. Car when I turned 16, all that stuff. So, I got treated a certain way because my family had money. You know what I'm saying? But it was still like you still

black though. >> And I didn't realize that till I got older and I'm thinking of certain Situations. I'm like, "Oh, she probably did this or she was treating me like this." And then not only was that, I was the little black girl getting invited to all the slumber parties cuz me and my friends, we were the popular ones. they couldn't understand why their daughter wasn't there, >> but the little black girls at the slumber parties and things like that. So, it's a lot of situations I look back on, I'm like, "Oh, this is what's going

On." But like I said, all of my parents, uh, I mean, all of my friends parents, um, my home girl Jasmine, her mom, Susan, they were so protective of me and I didn't realize that until I got older. You know what I'm saying? >> That's why I I like that conversation because, you know, I feel like a lot of it is um is behavioral, right? Like like I grew up on the dirt road and we were like in the middle kind of all the way to the end. We were all the way to the End.

We were the second to the last trailer and then eventually house on the dirt road. >> So all the white people lived on this side. So it was like you know my man Thomas who's still my friend to this day and his family lived over there and it was another white family. We didn't really interact with them too much. But then all the black people lived on this side. But it was just all about class. Yeah. >> So, like my dad and Thomas's uh stepdad, Jimbo, they literally would be the two guys drinking beer, minding

their business, see the white guy drive by with the Confederate flag waving, and both of them would be like, "Look at them crackers." >> You understand what I'm saying? So, it wasn't about, you know, oh, just all white people are >> inherently racist or all white people are inherently white supremacist. It was Just like, no, we are these black and white people who live here and we're poor. And then that's a whole other type of >> white person over here. And guess what? It was the black people who were more middle class and had means.

They were a whole other type of black person, you know, living over there. So to me, it's just all about behavior more so than, you know, what we what we are. >> What your parents used to do? >> Um, my mom, she worked for a oil and gas company. She worked for Kico, >> so she was like higher up doing all that stuff. But also, my dad passed when I was very young. So he left her like a whole bunch of money. So we were I was born in California. So after he passed and she

got all that money, we moved back to Orange where she grew up at. >> What did he used to do? >> Um he drove he worked for a gas company. He used to work for Shell. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> So he was like she moved back to Orange like built us this big old house on like an acre of land cuz when my neighborhood when we first moved in, there was like no neighborhood. There was like no neighborhood really. >> So when we built the house, it was like, "Oh my gosh, who was this

black lady that came back and like built this house?" >> Everybody thought y'all was selling Crack. THEY I KNOW THEY THOUGHT WE WAS SELLING CRAP. [laughter] >> But uh but yeah, like I said, I was really sheltered and I didn't realize it until I moved to Houston. >> Yeah. You didn't realize what it was like. I I feel like I always grew up around that growing up cuz I mean, I went to private school my whole life, but >> I seen the the classism. I've seen like colorism, all of that stuff at a very Young

age. Then especially when I went to high school cuz I went to high school in River Oaks in Houston which is like the most the richest neighborhood in Houston. And um >> Jonathan went >> that's where Kelly Roland went. Okay. Actually [laughter] she did. Kelly Roland went to my high school. She went to Lamar. Um but yeah so like even at my high school I seen it and it was just I don't know it [snorts] was a lot like Just realizing from a younger age how they treat us differently and especially because at my school

most of the black people that went there none of us lived in a neighborhood. We were all transfers. They already kind of looked at us like, "Y'all not supposed to be here." >> Why was you in private school your whole life? This is so interesting. >> My I don't know, Mom. Why? I think my Cuz my mom and my dad just >> She wanted me to go to a Catholic school. >> Got you. >> So, I went to Catholic school from prek 3 all the way through 8th grade. And then my mom actually wanted me

to go to a all girls Catholic school for high school. But I begged and pleaded. I was like, "Please let me go to public school. Please." So she wanted me to go to a public school that was over by her job that she approved of cuz she worked In River Oaks cuz my mom is a nurse. >> So she used to work at Texas Children Pediatric Medical Group and it was right over there by my school and she was like, "Oh yeah, you can go here because I'm not going to be that far and I

could drop you off every day." Got you. >> And it was hard to get be long, huh? >> And my school was hard to get into, too. My hospitals they >> Oh, the Catholic funerals. I feel like Baptist funerals be longer than that. How we talk about a funeral? We talking about school. >> Well, my bad. I just had to think about it. I'm like, damn, them funerals be long as hell. >> Actually, Catholic funerals be short, but we do have to DO THE ROSARY. >> OH, THAT'S THE THAT BE TAKING A long time. God

forgive me. >> But yeah, >> get them out of purgatory. >> I've seen both sides. Like, I definitely I grew up around black people the majority of my life, like prek through 8th grade, but then when I went to high school, it was like shell shock, >> culture shock. >> Yeah. >> Interesting. One thing about us, we going to get off topic. That's good though. >> We were supposed to be talking We were supposed to be talking about fragile masculinity. We did though, didn't we? >> A little bit, but we was also supposed to talk

about why do men think showing affection to other men is gay. But it's all right. >> Hold on now. Tell me what effect [laughter] affections. Okay. >> Like hugging your friend, telling your friend you love him. Even with sons, like men think that they shouldn't like love on their sons. Hug them, kiss them, >> tell them they love them. >> No, I don't agree with that. I believe I Believe you should do that. I don't I don't think Do men have a problem with that? >> Yeah. >> Really? >> It was somebody that was in

the blog. I think maybe was it Tom Brady? I don't know. It was >> Oh, no. I remember I think you talking about this was back in the day, but it was 42 Doug then. >> No, it wasn't 42 Doug. It was like a It Was a athlete like a high-profile athlete and he would like kiss his son or something. He kissed his son and they took a picture of it. His son was like 12 or 13. They were like, "Why are you kissing your son?" >> Lil Wayne kissed Birdman. >> God [laughter] damn. YOU

BETTER PUT SOME RESPECT ON WAYNE NOW. HE AIN'T ROLLING UP. >> AND THEN LIL WAYNE GOT ON THE song and said, "Damn right, I kissed my daddy." >> He said that once [laughter] now. See, that's that's why I said define affection cuz that that's when that's when I feel like it goes a little too far. >> Well, I do too. >> Unless that but if that's But you know what though? If that's how you feel about that person and that's what you choose to do, who am I to judge? Yeah. That's not how I kiss,

you know, guys that I love. >> You kiss your friend? >> No. Like, no, I wouldn't. But >> yeah, >> they did. >> Yeah. >> Well, I think there's a thin line, too. Like, for me, I guess this is this is like white boy humor. Like, white boys think that like being gay and kissing on each other and they think that is hilarious. >> They don't even call it gay when they do It. >> But it's it's a very strange >> Yeah, bro. This my bro. >> Like, it's very strange. Like, they be thinking it's

so funny. >> They be teaagging each other when they sleep. >> Like, yes. That's what I'm saying. And they think it's hilarious. Now that it's a little weird. If I wake up and A TITTY IN MY MOUTH, WE FIGHTING, >> You mean a ball of >> No, I'm Cuz I'm a woman. I'm saying like if it's I wake up and it's a titty in my mouth, we fighting, That ain't no haha here. >> That's crazy, though. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, I think you can show affection to your friends, but me, I'm as

a woman, I'm not kissing my friends. I hug my girlfriend. >> Your mom's had enough. She was like the titty in her mouth. The titty the [laughter] waking up with the titty in Your mouth just did it for us. She's like >> she had to pee. >> I'm not. >> But Lex Lex kissed me one time, so she's lying. >> That was a long time ago. >> You were drunk. >> We was both drunk. >> What happened? >> That was when we Nothing. Uh >> nothing happened after. >> Look, >> where was y'all at though?

Where? Where? [laughter] >> Nothing. >> What made you do it? >> We were just drunk. It was when we first started hanging out, too. What kind of >> It was not just drunk. It was this man at the bar and he was trying to talk to me. >> Oh. And we told him you my girl. Yeah, that's what we told him. >> That ain't going to deter him. That's going to turn him on [laughter] more. Now whatever he was going to spend, he ready to spend double. He was like, "Oh, both of y'all." >> But

to be honest, he stops. >> He did stop. >> And you know, I'm kind of I'm a big [laughter] >> So what kind of kiss was it? >> It was just like a figure. Was it a peck? Did you slip A LITTLE TONGUE? >> AND WE WERE KISSING. We were kissing. >> Like a little tongue. You like >> Oh, Lex slick as [laughter] Lex knew what she was doing. Alexa like now my opportunity. >> No, you want to KISS YOU. >> I REALLY WASN'T. I REALLY WASN'T. It was just funny in [laughter] the moment. But

I'm saying like it was in that moment and it was funny. Like we thought it was funny. And >> but now like I'm not kissing my friends. Like that was like a oneoff situation. >> Yeah. >> Drea is probably like my only friend that I've kissed like that. >> Oh, like that. So it was it was affectionate. It was like, "No, you said like that." But I do think men should be affectionate with other men. You should >> not like that though. >> Not like that. >> Like you can hug your friends. You can Compliment

your friends. Oh, you look handsome. I like that outfit. You look nice, my Like, you can say things like that. >> You know, there's an interview there's a OG Breakfast Club interview we did with JuiceW World. I don't know how many I don't know if Juice World came to the show once or twice. Might have just been once. >> For whatever reason, I was trying to make his homeboys hug him in the room. >> I was like, "Man, you better hug your homeboy." And I I don't know if I said something like because you JUST

NEVER KNOW. >> YES, that's crazy. >> And you know he's but that's that's what I mean. Like that's why you should you know tell your people that you love them. Tell them that tell them that you value them that you appreciate them. You know give your brother a hug. You know it's I don't think there's anything Wrong with that. >> Right. Remember you said tell your friends you look good my >> Yeah. Absolutely. I ain't got no problem doing that. Especially Especially when I meet Thank you. Especially when I meet >> No, Sandy. I do

like [laughter] >> He said she was like that you got. >> YEAH. HE SAID THAT HE SAID, "YEAH, THAT CLEAN, HUH?" [laughter] >> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. >> I do like your jack too, Charl. Do you Be telling your friends? >> Hell yeah. Especially when I meet like older men now. When you meet men that's in like they, >> you know, late 50s, 60s, 70s, they still look good. You're right. I'll be like, "God damn, you look good, brother." Because I hope to maintain and be looking like that, too, when you get to that age. >>

Cuz you know, cuz you and Morris twinsies. They said you was more as Peanut. I mean walnut. >> That's what they say. You know, I I think the only reason I might stop doing that a >> is because [laughter] I hate when people be like, "What's up, twin?" and they ugly. >> Don't be saying that >> And you feel like NO ONE SHOULD PROBABLY [laughter] BE >> YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? >> YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S LIKE, DAMN, MAN. LIKE, I hate like, you know, like, "Oh, what's up, twin?" Like, "Don't be

calling me twin. We You don't We don't look nothing alike. >> You ugly. I don't want >> I [laughter] don't think Morris thinks that. >> Everybody I don't think he think that either though cuz you're not ugly. You know, >> and I do think if you quit one eye, [laughter] >> he did say he got he did say uh he got mistaken for me once. >> See, that's he said that he said that on uh I think it was Jennifer Hudson show. >> See, >> it's the bald head. >> It's the bald head. The nice

skin. You know what I'm saying? >> I feel like bald heads just give mature skin. >> It does give mature skin. Well, everybody doesn't have God bless certain People with the type of skull to have a >> ball. You know what I'm saying? Some of these brothers, they got to go get the man unit. They got to go get the >> Yeah. They don't got that. >> That's what I'm saying. When they start losing their hairline, they can't get a bald head. Like LeBron James would look crazy bald. >> Yeah. >> Remember Miguel when Miguel

first came out? Go back and look at >> He was bald. >> Yes. >> Yes, man. >> I remember this. >> Yes. >> Whenever he kicked that man in the head, everything changed for him. [laughter] >> What? Didn't Kevin Gates do that, TOO? WELL, KEVIN ON PURPOSE, I think, allegedly. Too many people did it by accident. >> But Miguel tried to jump over that sea Of people. He took that cowboy Carter boot. >> It was a leg drop. >> OH MY GOD. SO BAD. >> IF you didn't know he was Mexican before, you knew it,

didn't you? Cuz [laughter] that was a straight luchador wrestling move that fights when we was in Mexico City. >> You know what I'm saying? Them luchadors don't play. >> Oh my god. Oh, >> but I feel like everybody got a twin cuz everybody say everybody look like people. People say Lex look like people. Me too. >> They always say you though. >> What do they say look like? >> Uh guess. >> I he I don't think he going to guess it. >> It's like it's two people that you get a lot. >> Two people. >>

Can I tell him? They always say Jada Waya and Summer Walker for her. >> Jada Waya and Summer Walker. I know what Summer look like. I can't think of what Jada look like. Yeah, I think she I think her and Jada do favor. I think they look like they could be like cousins. >> Both of y'all have very unique looks. >> Really? >> Yes. And it's hard for me to say that y'all look like anybody because I always hear guys mention y'all as bars. >> Oh wow. >> You understand? Like like like No, for real.

>> As bars. There's certain women that are bars. You know what I mean? And I I hear like >> y'all pop up in a lot of group chats. >> You know what I'm saying? You know, >> really interesting. You know, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. >> Guess who they say Lex look like? >> He ain't going to guess it. Especially Now cuz I don't have no makeup on. >> Kevin, >> WHAT? [laughter] >> TWIN. TWIN. NOW, WHEN I SEE KEVIN GATES, MY FATHER TWIN, [laughter] he going to say, "What you SAY THAT

FOR?" >> BLOWING UP THE PHONE. They see me calling them. >> Who they say you look like? >> Um, they Tony Braxton. >> Tony Braxton. That's I That's the only One I ever get. Braxton. >> Yes. They always say I look like a Braxton sister or a Braxton sister. >> That's the only one I've ever gotten. They never say anybody else. But to be fair, when Lex first moved to Atlanta back in 2017, she had a very short haircut. Like she had like a fade kind of and then she had like curls at the top.

And I feel like when she had that short haircut, I could really see it. >> People should just say y'all pretty and Keep it moving. >> Yeah, that's true. >> But you know what's crazy? I think the reason I'm surprised that people say the bar. I mean, probably Drea is probably like, "Oh, well, yeah, but >> but you too." >> No. No. Well, the reason I say that is because growing up though, I since we were talking about that earlier, I was never like a girl who like I didn't consider. Now, that's what I'll say.

I Didn't consider myself fine or attractive. >> When did you get there? >> When I moved to Houston and I was around >> You know what I'm saying? Cuz like growing up it was always like >> That's interesting. >> Yeah. Cuz growing up it was always like, "Oh, you're pretty for a black girl." Now, that's something I did experience. Oh, you're this for a black girl. You're this for a black girl. And I'm like, What the hell does that mean? >> But you know what though? That just means you're pretty. And those white individuals, especially

probably the men, just didn't know how to acknowledge a black woman being beautiful, right? >> They got to say for a black like what you mean for like black people are beautiful. >> Exactly. So, I always felt like, oh, all the white girls were like up here. And then it was like they made me feel like, Oh, but when the black girls start, I guess I'm like right here. >> But then you got the Houston home with all the baddies and you like, >> yeah, I was like, and I fit right on. >> I'm competing.

Word up. Exactly. [laughter] >> I wasn't I WAS AT THE CREAM, BUT I FLOATED to the top. >> You see what I'm saying? I WAS LIKE, OKAY. But I think that's where my when I started getting confidence about myself, Too. But I I'm so glad that I grew up that way because I think that's what helped my personality develop. M >> you know like a lot of outside of Drea I ain't going to lie to you them bad a bump on a log >> they don't be having no person >> THE BAD THE REAL REAL

BAD >> they be a little boring >> oh brother >> LIE [laughter] SHUT UP GIRL >> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING I GOT >> for real >> I got that too growing up even in the black community though >> like people would always tell me oh you pretty for >> a dark skin girl >> yeah for a darkkinned girl and like even guys I dated would say that stuff to me when I was younger, not so much now, but when I was younger, they would be like, "Man, you're the only you're the only Brownkinned girl.

You're the only darkkinned girl I ever dated cuz you just so fine." Like, as if that was a compliment. >> See, all I ever liked was melanin. Melan melanin. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, you know, Gdiva chocolate goddesses. >> I know. That's right. >> Was that song Wu had ice cream when they say uh Prince French vanilla butter pecan chocolate deluxe? >> I wanted the chocolate. >> We getting a lot of our a little bit out of our age. >> No, but it's true. I know. But I'm going to just say [laughter] I

like the I've always liked the dark skin girls. Like no disrespect to the light-skinned girls, but they like >> they got a little pit bull to them. >> Okay. What [laughter] >> what you know you never seen them pretty pit bulls with the like the little the Green eyes. [laughter] >> Oh my god. >> Just just a little bit. [laughter] >> Our resident Mexican. >> Just a just A >> OH MY GOD. THOUGHT SHE WAS Mexican when she first >> No, I am. [laughter] >> That's funny. But yeah, that's why I say it's just interesting

to me now cuz like Of course I know I'm beautiful. I know I'm attractive. But I've always been the kind of person like I appro I approach people and I'm like we going to have a conversation, we going to joke around. That's always been my first thing that I acknowledge about myself. So now when people are having these conversations like oh we rate Lex this and that. I'm never supposed to be in these baddies conversations at all. I never >> But you a bad though. I understand that. But I never wanted to be in the

conversations is what I mean. >> And and so what I was saying is I feel like when you have a once you have a certain body type, they're automatic. Yeah. They're automatically going to put you in that category. And I feel like we also have to be honest with ourselves about the type of pictures that we used to post back in the day. We have >> I was thirst trapping. >> We were. >> We was. We was. >> Yeah. You know, I you know, the thing about the bump on the log thing, too. I think

a lot of the reason a lot of uh pretty women don't have personalities is because they they don't have to have them because there is a such thing as pretty privilege. Like there's a sense of entitlement that comes with, you know, women that are pretty like they just >> walk in the room and people like kind of Naturally gravitate towards them and start catering to them, you know, and I think that that >> makes them not have to like ever really have a personality. >> I mean, that's for men, too. like extremely fine men are

like, "Oh my gosh." Like they to be the ones making Tik Toks and >> I can't. >> They do. >> I just can't. >> I think you need to be [clears throat] a little medium ugly as a man. >> Um >> that's what my girl my girl AJ always says that speak to AJ, you know, from the We Talk Back podcast. She always says you got I feel I really do. She say she like her men medium ugly. I feel like you got to be a little medium ugly as a man >> or just not

care about your looks like that. >> No, no. I think you can care about your looks, but I just think you need to have like a little bit of medium ugly like >> or a medium ugly personality cuz I like cute with a medium ugly personality. That's what I mean. Like you actually cute as but you think you ugly person. >> Yeah. Or you don't care about your looks. Like I mean I mean you keep yourself up, but you being [laughter] fine don't fase you. >> Like you being fine, you're like, "Okay, whatever. Who cares?"

>> No. See, I look at it the other way. See, I'm medium ugly, so I like to keep myself up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But >> this where y'all supposed to say you're not ugly. Just for me, my selfesteem. God damn. [laughter] >> But that's why I just said I don't think you medium ugly. Like I think you're handsome. THAT'S WHY THEY SAY >> YOU ARE HANDSOME THOUGH. >> YOU ARE. THAT'S why I got the Morris chestnut Morris walnut comparison is funny. >> Thank you. I need this. I got a long day. Got a

long day in Atlanta. I need this. >> I'm not going to lie. That's why when we were getting our uh chemical peels, We're like we're going to talk to him about that because I think that is that's one of the things that I think is attractive about you that you keep yourself up. You know how many men we done had sit on this couch? The blemishes, the dirty nails, the >> nails manicured. >> Yeah. Like >> you got to get manicured, pedicure. >> That's what I'm saying. It's very, very important that you keep yourself up

as >> close. I know you be getting your clothes tailored. I already know. >> I GET WAXED. >> WHERE? >> WHERE? >> BRAZILIANS. >> Not you be having them legs to the moon. >> Do you? >> No, I don't have another [laughter] >> leg. I DON'T KNOW. I THROW MY leg off or I get clean. >> I know that's right. Spray. >> I like that though. I'm bad at that. >> Oh, it's good cuz you know why? Cuz the older I get, the hair down there just was getting rougher. >> You know what I'm saying?

And it just felt it just didn't look right and it just didn't feel right. And I'm like, yo, this got to go. >> I talked about this on the show. I found a I found a gray coochie hair. >> Oh my god. Oh, I got those. >> I found one one time and I said it gets Gray down there. >> That coochie is straight. >> Oh, it's going to stay wet. >> Mhm. >> Oh, it's wise. You got a wise pom pom. It is wise. That coochie done learned a lot. >> That pom pom got

some wisdom. You know what I MEAN? >> YOU SEE, now it's time to get into the bed. >> Bow the bed. >> About >> the bed. Bow bow bow bow bow. >> Okay. And per usual, y'all know, this bed segment is brought to y'all by Salt XO. Y'all know we love some Salt XO. I always say I have been using Salt XO for at this point probably about four years now. >> What's that lube? >> It's uh >> it's going to get you where you need to be. >> It's feminine wash, but you know, men,

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know what I'm saying? >> So you can give a testament for the boys. >> Yes. >> All right. So the bad topic today, you've interviewed a lot of people, you know, and I know a lot of times people will pull up their spouse or, you know, their partner will be with them. Have you ever seen a couple and just like wondered what their dynamic was in the bedroom? Or like, have you ever looked at a couple be like, "Do y'all really be having sex?" Like there's no way that y'all be, you know what I'm saying?

Just Be curious about it. So today we're going to >> It love to be a fly on the wall. >> A fly on the wall. Anything. So we're going to name some couples. >> Okay. >> And you're going to say like, you know, if you would ever like what you think about them if they were intimate or not. >> This is a new segment. I ain't NEVER HEARD THIS FAR. >> THE BED. We This is our sex topic. >> Charlamagne May. >> CHARL. >> SEE, this is the bed topic. Whatever we charge. [laughter] >> Okay.

since 2018. >> Okay. Yes. So, let Okay. >> But this particular section >> Well, this is a different topic. >> OH, OKAY. OKAY. GOT YOU. GOT YOU. Got you. Okay. Got you. You know what I'm saying? Got you. Got you. So, uh, first I'm I'm going to skip through some of These couples cuz we not going um I'mma name a couple. Uh, Oprah and Steman. >> Never thought about Oprah and Steman [laughter] a day in my life. >> No. >> You know what I think? I think people always think that Steman be laying it down

because Oprah just, you know, but I think it's the other way around. >> You think Oprah be Oprah laying it down and that's why he's like, "You know what? We don't have to get married. I Won't even >> I won't even do nothing." >> To me, they seem like a couple that just enjoys each other's conversation. >> You know what I'm saying? Like they like being around each other, like, you know, traveling together, things of that nature. But they ain't necessarily like, you know, getting drunk, getting high, and like going at it. >> I don't

think that either. people you least suspects. >> Really? >> That's what I think. >> I don't even think that it's like crazy like that, but I think Oprah probably is a little more dominant. That's all I mean. >> You think she'd be taking through there? >> Yeah. >> What's wrong with that though? >> Nothing. Cuz I be taking through there. >> That's actually what men want. >> Exactly. >> Like men want women to take charge. >> You know what I'm saying? Remember that what's that that that thing that always go viral with you talking about

parking the car? >> OH YEAH. >> I WANT I WANT YOU AIN'T NO LEADER, BRO. >> That's what I'm saying. I need you to be the leader in the bedroom. Go be the leader. You know what I'm saying? >> All right. >> Let me like I can probably start it off but at some point take the goddamn wheel. >> Yeah, you got to sometimes you have to. I don't mind that >> cuz men aren't mind readers. And men really want to please women. And women know what it is they need to be pleased. So guide

me, bro. >> I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at either. >> See? See what who else we got? Drea. >> Whitney and Bobby. Now back when they had that reality show, I did used to be like h >> they had that wild crack sex. Yeah, >> prank steak probably on another. >> Yeah, >> it's giving Studio 54 1976 [laughter] that's being had. >> Yeah, I ain't at it. >> I never thought about it, but that probably was Yeah, that's probably that's probably the crazy, you know, Swinging across the bedroom, stopping for an intermission

to have some rocks and continuing on. You know what I'm saying? >> We don't give Bobby and Whitney enough credit for tearing down the veil that used to be up for celebrity. Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Because I don't, this generation may not realize it. There was a period where Bobby Brown was the biggest R&B star in the world. One of the biggest acts in the world. Period. This guy sold 5 million records off Don't Be Cruel. Like, he was on the Ghostbuster 2 soundtrack. He was in Ghostbusters playing a custodian. Whitney Houston

was the biggest star in the world. So, I mean, the only thing I could probably compare it to is like Chris Brown and Rihanna when they was >> initially together, right? So, but but imagine Chris Brown and Rihanna having the success that they both went on to have in being together. That's what uh Bobby and Whitney was. And like when they did the reality show and stuff, >> it was like oh my gosh, >> people don't got to be perfect no more. Like you can be flawed, you know, you can just show up as yourself.

When Whitney called Whitney and cursed her out on the radio, it's like damn, Whitney Houston curses right. She from Jersey, Like, so yes, they don't get enough credit for like, you know, um >> being pioneers. He and Pioneers are just tearing down that veil and just showing you that you can just be yourself as a >> Whitney kind of read down in a nice nasty way. Was it Diane Sawyer? >> Whitney Houston. OH NO, IT WAS >> that's what she said. Crack was whack. >> Yeah, it was. >> She said crack is whack. She said,

"Don't tell. I don't do no crack. Crack is whack." >> She said crack is cheap. >> Crack is cheap. >> Cheap is what it was. >> It's what it was. >> Speaking of crackheads and crack sex, Croisson and Blueface. >> Yuck. >> Yeah. I ain't never thought about that. >> Yeah, I ain't going. Anybody have >> I >> I've never thought about Bluetooth. [laughter] >> What you calling >> Bluetooth? >> Why you calling Bluetooth? >> Cuz it's blue in her. >> The tooth. Oo. >> I ain't never looked at his TV. >> You never seen

Croan HAS THE >> OH, YOU MIXED [laughter] IT. [screaming] >> OH, UNCLE, >> I never knew that was their name. She might be >> Yeah, she can fight. >> Now, she can squabble now. She can go. >> She can squabble. WELL, I'M NOT GOING to lie, I've never thought about that either. I was honestly shocked when she, you know, became pregnant and all that stuff going on cuz I thought it was just like a thing for his show to promote cuz, you know, Blueface, quiet as it's kept, he was the one that really brought the

Bad Girl stuff back. Yeah. >> Before they had Baddies and stuff, Blueface had like set up cameras in his House and had a whole bunch of girls move into this mansion and that's what started all the reboot of the baddies. The baddies. Yeah. >> And that's when the world was introduced to Kan. So when they first got together, I just thought it was for to promote his >> So no, I'm not going to lie. I've never thought about their dynamic in the bedroom. And he's a little thick now, too. >> I just want to re

show I've never Thought about none of these people's dynamics in the bedroom, but this topic is Yes. >> It's interesting. You know, >> I have one for Lex. >> Okay. >> Tyler Perry and anyone because Lex says, >> I think about that. >> Sleep with Tyler Perry with the media. >> Absolutely. Still would. >> Yeah. Look at my mother face. >> Yeah, I still I >> That's [laughter] kind of fire, Lex. >> I I still think about that a lot. >> That's kind of fire. >> I like I I I'm into a little role play.

You know what I'm saying? >> I can imagine. I'mma have him saying, "Lord, have mercy." And that little voice. >> So, you don't like real titties, but you like fake titties. >> Yeah, I'm doing a little fake titty. I like your titties. >> My >> What is she saying? [laughter] >> What is she saying? >> YOU KNOW, THEY FAKE. >> WHAT'S WRONG with that? [laughter] GOD DANG. >> I'M KIDDING. WITH THE SUIT ON. This ain't a suit. >> You don't take it off at night. >> But with my dear, it wouldn't be about the suit.

It's about what's under that skirt. >> I know. That's what I'm saying. I think Tyler working with a little something. >> Never know. >> That's what I'm saying. I always think about Tyler and what he does in his bedroom. I >> put that skirt and Mr. Brown pop out. You be like, "God damn." [laughter] You know what I'm saying? >> Mr. Brown pop out with him ashy. I'M LEAVING. >> THAT'S WHEN I quit. >> THAT'S WHEN I QUIT. BUT HONESTLY, I WOULD I'm so interested to see what a lot of like extremely extremely wealthy like

once you get in that billionaire like I'm not gonna lie, he's not on the list, but like Jeff Bezos cuz you know his wife is a baddie and you know she has a track record like she's always dated men that have a lot of money. >> So what are you saying? I don't understand what you're saying. >> I'm just interested on what they do in The what do billionaires do in the bedroom. >> Okay. You want to see what they dick look like? >> I THINK YEAH. I WANT TO SEE WHAT IT'S HIDDEN for >>

and what kind OF COOCHIE SHE GOT TO TIE Jeff Bezos down. >> Sometimes billionaires scare me cuz I feel like it's giving squee game. Yeah, it's too freaky over there. >> But y'all do realize what y'all have is Priceless, right? Like you know it don't matter what your your your financial status is. >> Men want a bad woman. Men want the poom poom. Like it don't matter. Like you you women don't even have to be in any financial status to bag a billionaire. >> That is true. Women just got to show up and be >>

fine. >> Fine. >> Yeah, cuz she got like what? She got two Daddies and three kids and still pull Jeff Bezos. It don't matter >> cuz she got a coochie >> and it's probably good. >> I know it's good. >> The bag a billionaire >> word to be on that Amazon Prime >> or or he just want company, you know. Um OG Kevin L always talk about this. Kevin L said to me a long time ago. He said, "Look, I can't tell you to get married, >> but find somebody to share your life Experiences with."

He told me this >> 14 years ago. He said, "I know where your life is going. >> I We all know what you're about to do." He said, "Find somebody to share your life experiences with." >> And I think that's what these billionaires are really looking for, that that companionship. >> I think that's success in general. I think that's all success is about, especially like obviously we're nowhere Near being billionaires, but just becoming more successful over the years. I think one of the main things that I just want in life is to find somebody that

you can en enjoy it with and experience it with and that y'all are equally old. >> Yeah. And it's going to be tough for y'all because as as y'all continue to have success, as y'all stars continue to grow. >> Yeah. >> Guys are groupies, too. So, you're not going to know who want to be with you because they actually like you or who want to be with you just because they like the look that they get from being with, you know, Drea and Lex. >> Or two, they be intimidated. Yeah, that too. >> You come

across a lot of guys like that too who it's like initially they like dating you or they want to date you because they're drawn to the light and Then once they get around they're like this. >> They come to a live show. Yeah. They come to a live show and see all the attention y'all get. I see all of the guys. >> You got any uh friends on Breakfast Club with your friends? >> No. >> You don't got no rich friends you want to hook me up with? >> I don't play that game. The reason

I Don't play that game because I don't want to be responsible for nothing. >> I'm not going to say nothing. >> No, no, no. I'm just saying in general cuz if things go good, >> I won't talk to you about it. >> If things go bad, then now you looking at me crazy. Cuz it's one thing to have a homie that's cool, right? But it's another to be like, >> "Yo, I think y'all should connect. >> I don't know what this man be on in Relationships. This man might be a terrible boyfriend." >> And that's

okay. We going to try again. [laughter] >> So, I leave that alone. >> Okay, that's understandable. That's understandable. All right, y'all. Let us know how y'all feel about those couples and their dynamics in the bedroom. Okay, now we moving on. Now it's time to get into the bop. Hey, >> the bop. >> The bop bow bow bow bow bow. >> Y'all got a real show. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? PRODUCTION. >> Y'ALL TRYING TO GET THAT 100 million FOR REAL. >> I MEAN THAT. >> I saw y'all talking about that. >> Yeah. We trying

to get it. We trying to get it. You know what I'm saying? What do you feel like we know the right people? >> Yeah. No. [laughter] No. No. For real. You know what's so interesting? I saw that conversation. >> Um, and I think the the reason it hasn't happened for black people yet is just it's just a numbers game. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, a lot of these podcasts that have gotten these big deals, >> just simply look at their numbers, right? Like like like you I hate when people

compare themselves to Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is >> an anomaly. like as far as audio downloads and you know his video views like you know when you looked at the numbers he was doing prior to his deal with Spotify it made all the sense in the world why Spotify you know cut him that kind of check >> same thing with the the caller daddy right like you know but also the other thing that um people don't think about is a lot of these shows are connected to Networks like Bill Simmons you know did his deal

with the ringer I mean did his deal with Spotify he had a network you know the ringer when you at like Smartless, right? Smartless is another one who's done a couple of those deals. They have Smartless Media, right? So, like a lot of these shows are, you know, also have networks. Even the Caller Daddy, Caller Daddy has like three or four shows, you know, connecting to her as well. And one of them other shows is >> is is popping right now. So, I just think that it's it's just a number a numbers game. And I

think it's really just >> a matter of time. Yeah. >> You know, and you got to be >> careful with those >> Yeah. kind of deals, you know, because when I when you it's funny when you said that, I was sitting back. I saw you say it on Joe Bud show and I was watching it and I was just like, "Okay, she's she's I see what they saying." Then I thought to myself like, >> you know, I've I've turned down a deal like >> five years ago. Yeah. You know what I mean? And the reason

I turned down the deal is because >> I don't I wasn't willing to do what it is they wanted me >> to do. And for what I wanted, the vision I had for myself, especially with, you know, the Black Effect podcast network, >> it didn't fit that vision. Like they want they they were willing to partner with me on a network, but it wasn't like no real ownership or no real equity. So, it was more of a a vanity play. So, yeah, you might have got this really big bag, but then over the last five

years, would I have been able to, you know, assist so many other people like like how we've done with Black Effect? What do you think about >> We talk about that all Well, I was just Gonna say we talk about that all the time because that's like a big thing to me as well. Just if we do end up getting a major deal or let me not say if when we do. >> When >> when we do, I want to still be able to keep the integrity of the podcast. Like I want it to still

be poor minds. I want it to still be the vision that Lex and I have. And I think a lot of the time when you do sign with these major platforms, They want it to look how they want it to look. and then you no longer really control the narrative. And then I was also having a conversation with one of our old agents from UTA and she was just basically like well cuz I told her we want to keep majority of the IP and she was like well that's going to be hard to do realistically.

>> Well, she was like with those with with the type of platforms that we want to get a deal from. She was like I just Feel like that's going to be hard to do but you can always create more IP. She was like, "So, you really want IP to be the reason why you don't sign the deal?" >> She was finessing y'all a little bit because >> Oh, you think so? >> Yeah. Cuz most of these people are doing they're doing licensing deals. >> You know what I'm saying? Like like most of these people are

doing licensing deals and when they when their term is Up, they everything comes back to them. Like you know, you while you might while you're with that company, you know, they'll have some rights to the IP, but you know, when you out of that deal, the IP comes >> right back to you. >> I wasn't aware. >> Does it? Yeah. Because I thought you're selling it to them. Like if somebody is giving you $70 million, $100 million, I thought you're giving them your IP and Then you no longer have any ownership. >> I mean, if

you if you if that's the type of deal you do, >> you know what I mean? But if you're And that's the beauty of the space that we're in, right? Like >> poor minds can get to a point where you call your own shots. Yeah. >> Like if I'm coming to you as a company, why would I try to change the integrity of what it is that y'all do? I want to partner with y'all because of what it is That y'all do. like you know the company didn't it definitely didn't want me to change who

I am they wanted me to be who I am but it was the integrity of the business that I was more concerned about cuz I had a vision I had a vision like I want to create this black effect podcast network to where we are empowering all of these you know different black creatives and being able to assist all these different you know black creatives that's what I wanted to do they wanted Like first writer refusal and like you know we want to partner with a poor minds like oh we we don't really like the

content of poor mind I don't want to go through that I want to be able to Hey, we want to partner with Paul M. Let's make it happen. Yeah, that makes sense. >> What do you think about Netflix getting in on the podcast and stuff now >> with Spotify? >> It's interesting because I don't look at What they're doing as necessarily podcasting. Like podcasting is a audio medium. >> Yeah. >> That can also be consumed in a video format, but the video format is that's it's really something different. like what they're watching right now is

something different as opposed to the experience you get when you're listening. And if you look at a lot of people's, you know, audio video ratio, The audio numbers still, you know, dominate for the most part. I think it's dope that Netflix is doing it because I think that it um it just continues to uh the the what's the word I'm looking for? Uh valid I'm validate. It continues to validate. [laughter] Yes. It continues to validate the podcast space. You know what I'm saying? It brings it gives valid validity to the podcast uh space. But I

I like it. I don't know if >> if if everybody should be taking their stuff off YouTube though, >> cuz I think if Netflix wants to compete >> with YouTube, then they should understand why people go to YouTube to begin with. The reason people go to YouTube is because of all the virality, right? Like I might be on Instagram >> or X or Facebook and see a clip of Poor Minds and then it'll make me be like, "Oh, let me go watch the whole episode." Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Like if you're Netflix,

you should also want that. You should want these, >> you know, shows that you're partnering with to still have presence on all these different platforms. And then just, you know, just like we do on weekends, at least me, if I'm home, I might turn on YouTube to watch the whole thing. It could be the same thing with Netflix. >> Interesting. I never thought of it that way cuz I always looked at it like, you Know, if we did like just hypothetically speaking, like if we did something with Netflix, I'm like, "Okay, this is visibility." You

know what I'm saying? But thinking about it too, when people like are cutting clips real quick and they're like posting it and that stuff goes viral, like you say, even that parking lot clip or whatever, they can clip that real quick because they're just watching it on YouTube and it ends up being shared a lot of different Places. A lot of times Netflix doesn't really have like moments like that. >> Yeah. That's what I say it just it just Netflix should just allow these shows to continue to have the virality that they're having. >> Like

so if you are putting out you know portions of your show and clips of your show let that go you know if anything just letting you know hey Netflix put the put the branding on it you know so when people are watching the clip after The parking lot clip is over it just says >> watch Paul M's episodes on Netflix like they have you can't fight the internet. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? You can't fight it. you can only, you know, hope to contain it, I guess. Yeah. But me, I would just

say continue to let it do what it do. And you're just another space that people come to the way people go to YouTube. >> Yeah. >> To watch full content. >> I think it's going to either be like really good or really bad. >> The Netflix thing. >> Yeah. Like I think it's going to be either like really good. Like there's not going to be any gray area cuz sometimes when things get introduced, it ruins it. Like I always think of like how they say video killed the radio star. Like when new forms of things

Start come along and everybody starts to do it, something dies out. >> Yeah. Or like even with like MP3s and stuff like when we got iPods and nobody was buying CDs. >> That's what I'm saying. So I'm like I hope it doesn't make it to where like something like you know. >> Yeah. >> But I mean podcasting is still so new that you can take those risk. Really? Yeah. >> Podcasting is like what >> 14 years old, 15 years old. So, if Netflix decides to jump in the game and you, you know, you do a

deal with Netflix for a couple of years, >> you still got your audio listening, right? You still going to have some type of audience that's, you know, checking for it. If it doesn't work, then you just go back to doing what you're doing. Joe Rogan just showed us that really, right? Because Joe Rogan was on Spotify. His stuff was behind a payw wall. >> He did that for a few years. I forgot how long the terms of the deal was, but when that term was up, Spotify thought that Spotify thought it was best for their

model to be back on YouTube. It was better for them to have their podcast wide as opposed to being behind the payw wall. That's that's always IHart's model. That's Black Effects model. I like for things to be wide. I want us to >> I want us to meet as many people where they are as possible. >> Yeah. >> All right. Now, we got off topic again. >> They've been getting Oh, yeah. Getting a lot of gang. >> A lot of Me, too. >> But back to the pop though. Back to what you listening to this

week. >> Um, so my bop this week is actually an artist that I just discovered. I had no idea. That's why I love my algorithm. I Just be scrolling. He's actually extremely popular. I don't know if I'm saying his name right. Um, but it says that he pronounces it Lisa. Lisa. >> Lois. >> I don't know. But it's L L O Y I S O. How you say it? I thought y'all was laughing cuz y'all, but that's how he has it pronounced in his uh bio, whatever. But he has this song that just dropped. It's

called Scary. And his music reminds me of kind of like R. It's R&B for sure, but it's like it has like a little EDM bop to it a little bit. You know what I'm saying? It's It's very very different. I like it. >> So, that's [clears throat] my bop of the week. He's not a new artist. He's extremely popular. I just He's never came across my music. So, yeah. I'm enjoying him. The bop my bop of the week is scary. >> This song is going to be so old by the time y'all hear it on

New Year's. >> NO, IT'S NOT. NO, IT'S NOT. HAPPY NEW YEAR, ASS >> SHUT UP, BRO. ASS my ass. HE WAS ABOUT TO SAY HIS song was about to be old. I think he talking about what he about to say. >> Oh no, my song going to be old, too. >> What's your song? >> Billy Jean is not [laughter] >> I don't know why the song probably old now to be honest with you. But um what's homie? His name is uh Belly Gang Cushington. >> Like your friend. >> Is that the one with YK niece

be LIKE I'M GEEKED UP THE [screaming] >> OH, IS THAT ANOTHER >> WHICH ONE IS SHE? When the girl BE LIKE, "I'M GEEKED UP LOOKING FOR A EAT UP." >> THAT'S YOUR SONG. [laughter] >> I don't know why. I WAS I WAS IN stock last week and I don't know why THAT'S COMING. >> I WAS NOT EXPECTING that to [laughter] Be your >> mood. Charlotte, he get off that Taylor. >> I'm telling you, I was sitting I was in a wine bar and I was we was drinking and I just that just popped in my

head and I just screamed and everybody just looked at me like, "What the [laughter] wrong?" AND THEN THEY STARTED LAUGHING. geeked up looking for a eater. >> And then this morning I kept singing it. [laughter] I was like geeked up. I'm Geeked up looking for a eater. And then just Larry goes and you're IN ATLANTA. THAT'S CRAZY. >> OH. [laughter] And they say bounce that ass like your friend dude. >> But sidebar Charlotte M is so unintentionally funny because when you posted that for Halloween, I was cracking up cuz I thought that video was AI.

>> Why everybody say that? >> What video? >> When he was walking in the BREAKFAST CLUB OFFICE. EVERYBODY SAID THEY THOUGHT IT was AI. Why did they think it was AI? >> A AI character until [laughter] you saw until the camera panned and you saw Jess and you was like, "Oh, this is real time." >> Everybody said [laughter] that. I was confused. I was like, "Why do they think this is AI?" >> YOU LOOK LIKE A AI person. I guess your Skins [laughter] are Yeah. Flawless honey. You better know we don't call him Uncle Baddy

for no reason. [laughter] >> Belly Gang could Okay. Shout out to Belly Gang. >> Don't you look like Dusky when Drewie was playing that skit? >> Oh my god, he kind of does. A white boy in the hood. >> He has that tint. >> He does. >> You know what I'm saying? >> The beard and everything. The way he was. I thought it was a joke. I'm like, this is a real rapper. >> Yeah. >> And I I saw a video recently he showed his dad. His dad is black. >> We interviewed him at the

um BC Award. Really? >> Yeah. This year. >> Well, that record is fire. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And YK N is dope, too. >> I love >> We love YK N. She don't know what she doing. This is giving it out. What the hell? >> That was about me. >> Oh, that was a ball that she's at. >> Yeah. >> I thought y'all was on her. I was like, damn. What the [laughter] Why can't I was like, "WHY CAN'T N AIN'T GETTING PAID?" He was like, "This don't know what she Doing. She just giving I'm"

I'M LIKE, "GOD [laughter] DAMN." >> OH, COME ON, MY MAN. >> I'M LIKE, "WELL, DAMN. I didn't know that. I don't know her." >> No, [laughter] Charlamagne. I know y'all play Take Me Through There on the radio. >> We do. Yes, we do. >> Oh, she says that on Take Me Through there, she like she don't know what she Doing. >> I don't know. The only thing I hear on Take Me Through there is uh >> Take Me Through there. >> Put your yams in a circle, girl. Put your yams in. What is it? Put

your girl in a circle. something. Oh, that wham girl through that wham. >> Yeah, that's the same song, right? >> She said it right after that. >> But she say she don't know what she doing. This just giving it. >> That's the same verse. >> And then she goes that right circle, right? Like literally right before. >> I ain't never pay that No attention. I just know that one part [laughter] that he's busy looking. >> He worried about that wham in the circle. [laughter] >> He too busy getting UP LOOKING FOR A >> YEAH, I'm

g up looking for a eater. That's so different. off. WHEN DID Y'ALL START? >> WE DON'T be hearing nothing unless it's something they got to do with throwing it in a circle or [laughter] either. >> When y'all start calling men that >> what? >> Eaters. That's so disrespectful. >> Yeah. I mean, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WOMEN HAVE HAD NAMES for the longest. A lot of times what women do, we're just catching up to what y'all been doing. >> I ain't never call no girl a sucker. >> Uh, super head. They be calling a girl superhead. DSL

hit the same hit way harder than Tucker. Y'all got to think of a better name. >> They be they used to say we had DSL. >> They did say we had D. >> Stuff like that. >> All I hear is compliments. [laughter] >> Either is a compliment. >> Cooper had Oh, it is. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> If he either that mean he is the best in His category. >> Yeah. But but I guess Yeah. You >> the best of show. >> You the Michael Phelps of that >> You know what I'm saying? >>

Well, say that. >> Yeah. >> It need another adjective. >> Michael Phelps. >> Yeah. Hey, don't just call me a eater. Say I'm like a gold medalist eater or something, you know? >> Oh, you got to PUT SOMETHING BEFORE YOU GOT TO PUT SOMETHING before it like a eater. What that mean? >> I mean WWE. >> ANYBODY COULD BE [laughter] A WORLDWIDE EATER. >> Daniel go WWE. I'm a champion. You know what I'M SAYING? >> A WWE CHAMPION. >> Cuz anybody could be a eater. You be down there just spitting on it. You know what

I mean? Like licking on it like That. Don't mean that. >> I got a few world. You see what I'm saying? I like that worldwide. That's a That's a worldwide eater right there. Yeah, I like I ain't going to lie, I'm with him on that one. I like that. >> That's what I like. Call me that. >> I like that. I like that. >> I'm not mad. What's your about drill? >> Okay, so Summer Walker finally over. Yes, it's finally over it. >> She just came out with a new album, Y'all. Well, I don't even

think we talked about these on the show yet. We were in the roll out. >> Mhm. >> Oh, that was dope. >> Thank you. That was dope. Really dope. >> Thank you. Yes. And we improvd the whole thing. >> Really? >> Mhm. >> Yeah. We didn't have no lines. >> Clearly, she's a fan of the show. >> Yes. I think she listens to the show. I do. >> Yeah. She reached out to y'all to come be part of our roll out. >> I think you know what it is. I think a lot of times when

girls go get their hair done, they getting their lashes done. Now, I will say a lot of our audience is hair stylist and lash text, nail techs. So, a lot of times people probably have heard of us cuz it's playing in the background while they're Getting something done. >> So, they may not necessarily listen to it all the time, but they be catching it when they're getting stuff done. They might tune in, see a clip, something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. >> So, I'm not saying she listen to it every week, but

she know what's up. she know what's up. >> But no, yeah, it was really dope cuz we got to be a part of the roll out. And then I'm also just a big Summer Walker Fan. I love Over It, still over it. Finally over it is such a good album. That's been in my rotation for a minute now. >> I respect Summer. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> That she did the other day when she was just like, "Look, your man cheating. He ain't gonna stop cheating. I just want to sleep with him every now and

then." >> Oh, now that was a little messy. It was, but I I just didn't like it public. But that's that's an honest conversation to have. And you know, I was watching CNN the other day and they was talking about how uh >> pol Polynesian sauce. What's the thing? >> Polygamy. >> Polygamy. [laughter] >> Poly something else. Polyamory. >> Polyamory. >> Polyamory is on the rise, right? >> Oh, I I just love cuz we be messing our words up, too. >> But they say it's on the rise. Yeah. >> And so when when I think

in the future a lot more of those conversations are going to be had and there's going to be a lot of people who are going to be forced to make some decisions. >> Yeah, I agree. But I do think that we have normalized cheating a little bit too much though. >> But it's not cheating if you're being Honest about it. >> I mean if all parties know what's you know what I'm saying? Like I would have been okay with it if it was like you know the girlfriend knew and everybody knew and they were in

agreeance. So stuff like that, you know, cool. Do what y'all do. A lot of people have open marriages. >> It's a lot of non-consensual. >> It's not. Yeah. The non-consensual part that I don't agree. I said consensual a Lot. I don't agree with. So I will say I don't like the way that we have normalized like having side side and things. I don't like it's not normal. >> That's why I respected her not wanting to still want to play that position for wanting to be honest about it. >> Right. And she didn't come out with

all this stuff like people just started talking about her and you know she got her name is Miss Pizza Hut. The tea got Hot >> and I enjoyed it. >> It was real messy. >> It was real messy. >> It was real messy >> cuz it shouldn't have been public. >> Agreed. >> That was a woman towoman conversation. >> Facts. >> And then y'all go tell the man what's going to happen. >> But I agree with you. I respect her for Standing in it and not being like, "Oh, it's not true. You're lying. You're lying."

She was like, "Yeah, this is what happened. I mean, what we going to do about it now?" So, I can respect her, but at least not lying. >> I mean, and my thing with Summer is keep doing what you do because one thing about it, you going to give us some good music. >> That's all we need >> based off a real life experience. >> I don't know what she doing as long as you don't sleep with my man. >> Yeah. And and I feel like she has so many good songs like Go Girl. Everybody

been That's been going viral. >> Chicken. What is chicken Alfredo music? I don't really understand. >> Well, that's what they've been saying about that song, but I like it. They said it's giving Alfredo where I can't get it out. Red fish, blue fish. >> Oh, that's two fish. New fish. >> What Dr. Seuss got to do with this? >> Cuz they saying that's how she sounds in the song. >> Uncle Sam. >> But I like it. >> Yes, I am. >> What says you going to make it rain for these thunder? >> She didn't say

it like that. >> Yes, she did. >> No, she didn't. That's how you You sound like Elvis. [laughter] >> Lotto be singing now. >> Yeah, >> she do. >> She sure did. >> She did say that. >> Do your cat verse was fire. >> Yeah, >> she did her thing. I think she really epitomized what that song was about. >> Yes. >> You know what I'm saying? Like she was really like this the song is about me And how I'm go girl. >> She used to have a chip tooth but now she got a swimming

pool. >> I know that's right. My tooth still chip. It's coming. >> What's that? >> You got money for a veneer. >> She do. >> I don't want no veneer. >> You don't want veneers. >> I said a veneer. >> A my tooth is not even choke. I don't Know why I said that. I just lie for the game. See if I still got it. >> Me too. >> Sometimes you do it all the time. I say all the time. I love a lot. A little lie. >> When you get in the Uber just making

up >> I love it. I like it. >> What's your name? Ashley. [laughter] >> And believe me when I'm lying too. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think we practiced when what was that song by the Eley brothers? What's your name? When she live >> Oh, Ice. That's not Ice. >> That's not what the name of that song. >> That's not Laundry Mad. >> No, that's not Laundry Mad. The >> Laundry Mad is Nibia >> with the Bro. >> Come and get >> Busted. busted. It's 2:00 a.m. clock in the morning. That's how I learned

to lie. She was kind of quick on her toes Until she started saying, "Uh, >> it's no need to lie, though. You don't have to lie." >> So, you don't never lie. >> No. I mean, back in the day when I I'm grown. I'm an adult. Like, what I need to lie about now? And I think that, you know, if I want to actually be in um real positive relationships with people, just tell the truth. >> Yeah. I lie. I don't lie to people in my circle. >> Growth. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But sometimes I

might say a little lie on here. >> But it's because you potting. It's for entertainment purposes. I love the lie. That's why I got make sure I still got >> it's entertainment purposes. But in real life, it's okay to be honest with whoever. I'm talking about friendships, relationships, everything. >> Now that I do agree >> because I want to be in connection with the real person. You know how they say uh God can't bless who you pretend to be. >> Oh yeah, for sure. And >> I can't be friends with who you pretend to be.

>> In real life, I think I'm too honest. Stop be hurting people feely. >> No, there's no such thing. >> It is. >> It's like a shot. It's like when you go To the doctor and you get that shot, it sticks, you know, when it goes right in, but then that medicine heals. >> Yeah. I think I'm trying to find the balance between being like too honest and then still being like considerate of people feelings cuz I feel like I'm just too honest. Like I be hurting people feelings >> cuz it's not about what you

say, it's how you say it, too. >> My mom been telling me that my whole Life. >> Yeah. But I feel like I say it in a nice way. It still hurt people feelings though. >> Because the truth will always hurt. >> It's going to sting. >> The truth is going to always hurt. >> Mhm. What we got next, y'all? So, now it's time to get into our favorite segment of the show, which is pour your heart out. You know, if you have any questions, send them to [email protected]. That's as kp o r m i

n dsgmail.com. Send us your questions. Send us your testimonials. Charlemagne, I don't need to ask you, do you give good advice? Cuz we know you give good advice. >> So, we have a listener question. >> Okay. >> Hi, ladies. First and foremost, I love you guys. As a fellow Houston girl, I love to see people from the city succeed. Peace and blessings to you Both. I can't wait to see what else you all have in store for us. Now, what can you tell me about a high yield savings account or anything related to money longevity?

I'm 21, in college, and graduating soon. My plan is to have a career simply because that's what will support the lifestyle I dream about, but the ultimate dream is to eventually work for no one and be my own boss. Any tips or advice? I am not Ernisia. I am not Rashad Oro. [laughter] I am not John O'Brien. You know what I'm saying? I I don't even know what to say. Hi. What? >> You know a fun fact. >> What? >> One of the topics that we was going to talk to you about today was about

the black dollar and the DEI effect. >> And I was like, I don't think WE I FEEL I LIKE CHARLEMAGNE. I feel like he funny. We need to talk to him about some more party cuz this is not and I said the same thing. I said, this is not Earn your leisure. >> Yeah. I got I mean I got thoughts on that but now I don't even know what what she said. What is the high yield? >> She said she wanted advice about what should you do to create money longevity and she wanted advice about

you know getting a high yield. >> All I tell people is pay your taxes and save your money. >> You know what I'm saying? I I I've been I was broke much longer than I had paper and you know I've been on the unemployment line you know quite a few times in my life. So my motto is make sure your taxes are paid and save your money and you know and hire good financial people. Yes. >> You know like but you got to have real trustworthy financial people. Like it took me a long time for

me to trust somebody with my money. You know I >> agree with my guy Humble and Lifeline Financial. But that that but that even started as just a friendship because he was my my home girl Debbie Brown's financial person you And you know there's other like a couple other people vouch like Issa Ray Issa Ray about just Issa Ray's business >> managing like but he's also just a good dude. >> Yeah. >> And so it's just one of those things like God brings the right people in your Life at the right time and you know

he came into my life maybe like five years ago >> and thank God no longer than that now maybe six years ago I don't know but >> thank God for him right >> but yes >> got to get your stuff in order. >> Earn your Leisure got a market Mondays in. That's how I be feeling about it, too. Because I mean, Lex and I do try to drop Gems here and there, but I am not a financial advisor. I do what works for me. I do believe in putting your money your money into the stock

market conservatively. >> I'm never going to tell y'all what stocks to invest in specifically, but I do think that you should be putting money into the stock market. I do think that you should have a high yield savings account. I do think that you should have a Roth IRA. Um, but those Are all things that I think that y'all can look into on your own. >> Do your own research. >> But your money should not just be sitting in your bank account because it's not building any interest. >> And and just to piggyback, I think

the easiest way to start like when you're so young is a high yield savings account. It's super easy. Like it's literally like opening a bank account or just opening a regular savings account, but Your money is making interest and you can access it very quickly, but it's also making interest every month. So, I always tell everybody if you're not sure about the stock market and you want to take some time to learn, but in the meantime, you want to put your money somewhere that's good, just Google a high yield savings account, see who has the

the highest, you know, percentage and start from there. That's that's the easiest way. >> I agree. >> That's all we got. >> And y'all talk about y'all can't answer questions. Y'all do light-hearted banner. Y'all just gave some great practical. >> I MEAN, WE DO. I THINK I WE LIKE TO talk about We talk about what we like to talk about. >> Yeah. Press me to talk about And we've talked about financial literacy a few times over the last I would say two Months. So I think that's why people keep asking us. But it's like also

this ain't earn your leisure. We'll put the link in the bio. >> That's right. >> Or John O'Brien. He's another John >> Money and wealth podcast. You can learn a lot from that. >> Yes. That's what I'm saying. >> This ain't that. We just be trying to give y'all little nuggets what we learned on the way. >> We We be texting our damn selfelves. Figure out what's going [laughter] on. We do be sexing Rashad and Troy. We got to put in the We got to put in the caption, this is not financial [laughter] advice. >>

That's what I'm in town for cuz John O'Brien does this thing called Operation Hope and it's like the largest financial literacy conference >> in in America. >> We got to learn. That's >> And he's a billionaire, too. >> No, but he's up there. He's hundreds of millions. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Hundreds of millions. >> But that's what I'm saying. I think for us, we just have to take the time out to do some research and learn. Somebody like sent me a message. They're like, "Lex, I don't want to do." I'm like, "Well, did you

do some research?" She was like, "No, I just watched THE CLIP." >> SHUT UP, GIRL. >> GO READ SOMETHING. >> DAMN. >> People don't like to read. >> They don't like to read. And that's what I'm realizing. Like, you have to do some research. >> And I love a reader almost as much as I love a eater. And now [laughter] >> I'm geeked up LOOKING FOR A READER. >> LOOKING FOR A READER. SO, ADAM, PEOPLE DON'T READ. >> THEY DON'T READ. >> NO, FOR REAL. PEOPLE DO NOT READ BOOKS and it concerns me. I say

that. >> Be a kids bot person. >> I like how she said that with enthusiasm. the same way she'd be like, "Niggas don't eat no more." >> Cuz I'm a reader. I love a reader. >> Yeah, I really am. I read all the time. And I just I think it's so interesting that people do not feel the need to read books anymore. They feel like they could Just find out all of the information that they want to find out on Instagram, on Google. >> Right. Right. Right. >> On Yahoo. >> And that's why people don't

have no comprehension skills anymore. People have a lack of understanding nowadays. Like you have to read. My mother was an English teacher. So since I was a little kid, she had me, you know, not just reading books and she was a Jehovah Witness, so I had to read all the Jehovah Witness material. >> Y'all was knocking on people though. >> Yes, I was doing field service every Saturday. So not so so so [laughter] not only >> I WAS KIDDING YOU. >> YEAH, I DID SERVICE every Saturday morning. >> Lord, like [laughter] you had a lot

going on. >> That's what you're supposed to be doing If you really believe in God's word. >> You have a lot of testimony, you know. >> I do. I do have a lot of testimonies. So I used to have to read all the Jehovah Witness material and then we had the booket program. Y'all probably too young for the bookie program. Y'all remember the bookie program where you read full books and you get a FREE PIZZA? >> YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT. I HAD THAT. >> I DO remember that. >> Yeah. Little personal pan, >> man. So,

I used to read and my mama used to say to me, "Read things that don't pertain to you." >> So, I would be reading things that had nothing to do with anything black, right? So, so of course my, you know, as I got older, my dad gave me the autobiography and Malcolm X and stuff like that, but I was reading Judy Bloom books. >> Are you there, God? It's me, Margaret. You know, >> Super Fudge, you know, Tales of a Fourth Grade. Nothing. I was reading all of that type of stuff as well. So, yes,

you have to read. Like I I am >> big on reading. I read for recreation. >> I think I do, too. I think I I read for recreation, but I also read a lot of self-help books. But I think that in 2026, everybody should challenge themselves to at least read six books this year. >> Yeah, my friend. >> Like, make that a >> my sister, she reads like a book a book or two a month. >> I do that. >> I read like a book a year. >> Y'all some real readers. I do that, but

I mean I do that because I I enjoy reading, number one, but also I got a book publishing company. >> I got I got a book publishing company with Simon and Schustster called Black Privilege Publishing. So I read >> a lot of manuscripts on top of the stuff that I just like to read. >> How many businesses do you have >> in entertainment or just >> in general? >> Uh let me think. Um Black Effect Podcast Network. Me and Kevin Hart got an audio scripted company called SBH Productions where we do like audio scripted content.

Um, the book imprint, Black Privilege Publishing, Film Company, Southland Films, The Crystal Franchises. Um, I feel like I'm missing a couple. Probably like seven. >> That's a You was like Kiki Wyatt, you know. >> Breakfast Club. I like Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club. Brilliant Idiots. >> That's a lot. >> That is a lot. >> That is a lot. >> Yeah. >> I'mma put it in your ear. Booked it. >> You need to start franchising Waterburg. >> Waterburg. >> Yes. >> That's Mark Wahberg joint. >> We have water bers here in Atlanta now. And they only used

to be in Texas in Alabama. >> Huh? >> Is it? >> You said Walgreens. >> Waterburg. >> Yeah. Waterburg. That's not >> He has one but it's not his. Waterburg is different. It's like a real real southern thing, but they're starting to kind of like >> Yeah, I never heard of water burger. >> It's good. >> It's a burger restaurant kind of like Crystal. >> It's fast food. >> It's fast food. >> That's why I did Crystal, cuz used to be in the South. That was a staple in the South back in the day. Like

that was our White Castle. >> We need to look into Waterburger or Shipley's donuts cuz if we got a Shipley in Georgia >> Yep. >> or in the Carolinas, >> it would go crazy. It's a donut shop. >> Yeah. M uh before we get out of here, y'all know this episode was brought to you by Taylor. And y'all know every time we sip on that Taylor, somebody got to Get something off their chest. So this week we have another bottled up for y'all. So take a listen. Hey y'all, I love y'all by the way. Y'all

are so funny. Anyhoo, so me and this dude been dealing with each other since February. Um I've met his daughter, he's met my grandmother. Um we used to go on dates, all of the above. But you know, sometimes life. So, we haven't been doing the things that we were doing in the beginning of, you know, our Situationship. So, he said he doesn't want a relationship and all of the above. This and the third. I said, "Okay, cool. We're just going with the flow." Now, a few months down the road, >> um, since July, I believe,

we had the keys to each other house. And yeah, so to me, that's kind of serious, but he he just doesn't want relationship and all the above. So, I don't know what to do. If he's just stringing me along, if I should just stick and see what's going To h stick around and see what's going to happen. I don't know. Can y'all tell me what to do, please? Thanks. >> Uh, you let that be free like he want to be. >> I I I think when one thing about women is we will lie to ourselves.

>> A man will tell you, "I don't want a relationship." And they're like, "But I met his daughter. But I met his mom. But we have the key." It don't none of that matters. None of that matters. When a Man wants to be exclusive, he's going to be exclusive. And I know that's hard to hear because you feel like one thing about men too, they will do things that make you feel like y'all are exclusive, but y'all aren't >> and they will allow that because you probably doing everything. Why? They'll ladies, they love to watch

somebody kids. >> Yeah, >> y'all love to babysit. They're like, "Yeah, little Dante love me." Like, >> girl, them kids. >> And I don't like that cuz absolutely not. I'm not watching no kids. >> Like if we're not together, what are we? You're not my husband, >> right? I think I think that's a little you're it's a lot. It's a lot. So I think sometimes men will do things that make you feel like y'all in a relationship and you're like not understanding. He still want to be Outside, but you are giving him the benefits of

not being in a relationship. So why >> should he get in one? >> Getting one. >> Yeah. Whatever you are to a man, a man is going to let you know. You know what I'm saying? Because he wants that. Like he either wants you to be his girlfriend or he wants you to be his >> wife, side chick, eater, like whatever. Like he No, for real. He's going to let You know what it is. Like >> Carla made me trying to shy away from the truth. He's talking about he wants you to be his wife,

side chick, whatever. >> No, the [laughter] truth. But you're not going to have to guess is my is what I'm saying. Like when a man wants you to be something, he's going to let you know what you are. The reason she's asking that question is because she's looking for a position. >> You know what I'm saying? It's like walking into a job and there's a bunch of applications. you fill it out and he's like, "You got the job." And you like, "What do I do?" Right? >> You know what I'm saying? She's looking for a

job description. >> He hasn't given her one yet. >> Yeah, girl. It's time to just do your thing. Y'all can enjoy each other's company, but I don't think he wants a relationship. Chad, >> and I'm not saying that you have to stop dating him, but just date other people. >> Yeah, but then you get a yeast infection. >> Well, I I think what >> and this is and this is the problem with men. Let this be Let this be a learning lesson right now. Dating does not mean That does not mean >> That [laughter] doesn't

mean that you have to have sex with all >> I mean, you know what? You're right. Cuz I be thinking about it from the man's perspective. >> Yeah. >> Men ain't just out here dating. >> Y'all not. Y'all everybody. >> Well, not me. >> Not you. >> Because black men don't cheat. But men are you married? >> Yes, I am. Happily. Men have a rotation, right? And in that rotation, they sleeping with all of these different Women. Trust me, they just ain't dating. They just ain't taking you to, you know, a restaurant on Monday, taking

you to the movies on Tuesday and being happy with that. No, >> I agree. >> They out there smashing >> raw. I agree. >> So women understand that when your pH balance all messed up, you know, that's what she say. Why? >> Do say. >> Do say. That's right. That's right. >> Big sex nowadays is a prayer mama. >> Oh, >> these these boys is wilding. >> Yes. >> He talking about real. >> Yes. And they out here doing it. [laughter] And they out here doing it WITH EACH OTHER. THEY OUT HERE doing it with

each other then bringing it back to the women. [laughter] >> You got [screaming] real. You got >> you got to be really careful out here. >> But no, I feel like that's the problem. Black women have not been taught how to date properly. >> We have always thought that you have to put your eggs in one basket. You should only be dating one man at a time. You absolutely should not. until a man put a ring on your finger. I feel like it's okay to date multiple men. But dating is Dating. Dating is going on

dates. >> You can't just be giving it out. >> Yes. You can't be just giving it out, not knowing what you're doing. >> And one of y'all I think it was you like one of y'all said something about um what what guys do for girls. >> Yeah. >> Right. All men are going to lovebomb a woman in some way, shape, or form >> because when you used to to to doing things at a 10. >> That's just the way you know how to do things. So, if you're the type to send women flowers, you going

to always send, you know, women flowers. If you the type to, >> you know, buy women bags and all of that, that's what you're going to always do. If you eat boonky, you gonna eat boonky. So, like, don't think you special. Like, that's >> what is boonky. Bonkey, your booty hole. [laughter] What you mean? Your booty hole. >> Why is my mama laughing like that? >> Boonie is a funny >> Don't she know what boonie is? >> No, but I do agree because I talked about this to my friend and she had a [laughter] she

had a situation where she was dating this guy and she was like, "Oh my god, he's doing this. He's doing that. He's so wonderful." And then they like stopped talking and she was like, "What the hell? He was doing all these Things." I'm like, well, that's normal for him cuz he dates like that. That's what So, I think sometimes we have to just take that he's courting you. That's what they're supposed to do. And stop thinking that this man is in love with you just because that's how he dates. No, >> that didn't mean anything

more than that. >> It don't mean anything more than that. >> That's just what he's used to. He is Being himself. >> And when you are, like I said, when you are used to taking it to a 10, you gonna always take it to a 10. So, don't think you special. You're not special until he shows you that you special. >> You are. >> That's a That's a word. All right, you know, we gonna wrap up this episode, >> but before we do, I feel like everybody should say what their New Year's resolution is. >>

Um, uh, >> and then we going to pop We going to pop our >> We going to pop our things. Okay, who going to go first? I don't want to go first. Dre, you go first >> on what my New Year's resolution is. Okay, so my New Year's resolution for this year is to live more in the moment. and [clears throat] stop always focusing on what's next. >> Mhm. >> I feel like I ne I rarely ever just live in the moment. Like I'm always like, "Okay, what's next?" Like even to the point that everybody

around me is always like, "You just did this amazing thing. You just had this amazing accomplishment and you not even basking in it because you always looking for what you're about to do next." >> That's something that I suffer from so bad. >> So next year, I just want to live in a moment more. um have more self-care days, more self-care time for myself because I think that I'm always trying to focus on how to get to where I want to be. And sometimes you just have to be present and appreciate how far God has

brought you already. >> That's real. >> Amen. >> So, yeah, that's my New Year's resolution. >> Uh I think for me, I really want to as much as like I pour into poor minds, I want to also do that for my like other endeavors that I want to do. you know, I want to be able to expand myself, you know, into the acting and doing more stuff for Love Lex P, doing more things for Poor Minds and, you know, just expanding my pallet of businesses. You know, I want to be naming them like that, too.

>> You know what I'm saying? So, that's my Goal is just to be more um [sighs] spread, not spreading myself too thin, but just learning how to balance and do it all. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't be like a onetrick pony, >> you know? So, yeah. >> Those are great. Um mine you know what a few months ago I was meditating and I said to God I said God I am ready >> for every single blessing you want to bestow upon me >> like like like every single opportunity you know just just realizing

my full potential. >> Yeah. >> As a spiritual being living a human existence on this planet. every single [snorts] thing you want to pour into me, I am ready for. Cuz I think a lot of times, you know, you might deal with imposttor syndrome in some ways or you might be like, >> "Yeah, I want that, but I don't think I'm ready for it now." It's just like, "Nah, I'm I'm I'm ready. I've been through the fire." You know what I mean? Like like like like I've been through the fire. You know, God has put

me in a position to where I am able to handle >> every single thing that I have and every single thing that is >> coming. So, um, >> yeah, I just want to be open to receiving that on all levels and not Even just, you know, the so-called good that comes with it, everything. Cuz, you know, my therapist always tells me some ill He goes, you know, there's always two sides to a coin. So, you can't have any of your success without the problems that come with it. >> And sometimes we think that those problems

are are bad, but it's just like, no, it's just it's life. Like, I'm at the point in my life where I don't believe in anything. Everything is So-called good. Everything is so-called bad. All of this is just a process. >> So, I'm ready to embrace the process on every single level. >> That's good. >> That's good. That's a good [laughter] >> y'all remember that was that movie not another teen movie? [laughter] >> That was my pie. What's yours? >> Um, my resolution is to step into my Soft woman power. Um, I am a hustler. I

think we all are in this room. >> And I'm tired. I want to relax. I want to enjoy the fruits of my labor. This was the first year that I was able to actually take vacations and rest and have my team running things for me for my business. So Mixie and I really want to just step into that a lot more and step back and allow them to kind of step into their power, mentor them, coach them up, other women who look like me Behind the bar. I just want to step into that a lot

more. >> Amen. I love that. >> And then, you know, of course, Charlamagne, I want to give you your flowers. you know, thank you for always um accepting poor minds for who we are, believing in us, thinking highly of us even when we're not around. >> Especially when we first started, when I feel like not that many other people saw what we were trying to do, you always Saw the vision and you always believed in us and we I love what y'all do >> and just everything you've done you do for like the black community

and community in general. And like I said, we meet a lot of men in this industry. It's a very male driven industry, but you and most importantly, you're not a weirdo. You know, be weird. The energy be weird. It be off and all type. We have met some characters. But I will always say your energy is always Positive. It's good. It makes us feel welcome and loved. And we really appreciate you for that. >> And by the way, that is the greatest compliment uh a woman can give a man. And I didn't realize that until

a couple of years ago when I got, you know, I got a bunch of, you know, home girls that I call my nieces and my sisters and everything. And they always say, "I feel safe around you." Yes. >> And I didn't realize how unsafe y'all be Feeling around men until y'all find men. Y'all can be safe. >> Weird energy and just like not good energy. >> Just be the energy. >> The energy just be off a lot of times and it's like we got to be like, you know, hey y'all. You know what I'm saying?

But when we are around you, when we at Breakfast Club, even today, like it's been so relaxed and comfortable and we had a good time today. >> So did I. >> All right y'all, y'all make sure y'all tune in next week and happy new year. >> It'll be Valentine's next WEEK ON THE SHOW. >> [screaming] [laughter] >> HAPPY NEW YEAR. HAPPY NEW YEAR. >> HAPPY NEW YEAR. >> OH >> OH HELL. [screaming] >> LET ME NO. NO. BY THE WAY, WWW. >> I think that was God. >> You got TO LOOSEN IT UP. LOOSEN THAT

THING UP. >> Give me some of that. What's that stuff called? WHAT'S THE VWAC? >> LOOSEN THAT BONKY UP. >> That bokie juice. >> There you go. >> There you go. Bust it wide open. [laughter] by I'm love else >> if I can't love myself enough to know when it's time to let [singing] go [screaming] and sing. All I really want is to be happy and TO FIND A LOVE THAT'S MINE. It will be so sweet. All I really want is to be happy and to find a love that's mine. It will be so sweet.

>> I ask for a sign from my sweet Lord above. I know the answer is in front of me. But when you think you're in love, you only See what you want to see. >> And all I see is me, for you and you. For me. Oh, I cannot hide the way I feel inside. >> I don't know why, but every day I want to cry. If I give you one more try to these rules, will you abide? And if I mean anything to you, would you make everything all right? >> Really want is to

be happy and to find a love that's mine. It will be so sweet. All I really want is to be happy and to Find A LOVE THAT'S MINE. It would be so sweet. ALL I REALLY WANT IS to be [screaming] happy. But it's okay. It will be so sweet. All I really want is to be happy. And to find a love that's mine. It will be so sweet. >> I JUST WANT TO BE >> SO HAPPY. But the answer lies in me. I do believe that we could be happy. That we could be happy. Now

let it breathe. >> Come on, L. >> Y'ALL Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT? [laughter] HEY, >> NOW ACT LIKE you don't want to be here. Let the crowd sing it. Okay, >> MAN. SHOUT OUT TO THE WWE IN THE BUILDING. >> WORLDWIDE HEATERS. >> HAPPY NEW YEAR AND WE'LL SEE y'all next week. >> Next year. Bye. [laughter] >> Thank you. >> Absolutely. Down. [music] [music] Down. [music] >> [music]