Chase Atlantic | Imposter Syndrome, Spidey Senses, New Album ‘Lost in Heaven’

I can't I still can't grow like a beard so maybe once I can grow a beard I can change my hairstyle we both can't grow beards you you can you're being humble I actually years you got something though you can make something happen that I saw that handlebar oh yeah that was pretty sick that's nuts I can't do anything like that that was sick hi beautiful human I'm Zach that's Dan welcome to the studio for the second Time Chase Atlantic talking to me minus Clinton oh hello we are down a member we are yes he's

in Australia yeah he's still chilling still chilling with the fam getting that that real that real good just rest and Recovery that RNR healthy yeah yeah inspired by I don't know you've had a crazy year yeah you mentioned it to me briefly but I wanted to bring it up because it is true lot of traveling a lot of success thank you a Lot of a lot of Life uh lessons yeah a lot a lot just a lot of life in general you know to especially since the last time we spoke no time really does move

in a weird place especially since Co life has been very different and that interview and that era leading into this next one like there was a Hiatus and a break period that goes on even before you released this last album right yeah we had I think it was almost 3 years before We made this newest album it wasn't wasn't necessarily A Hiatus we were still we're still trying to make music we just sucked a bunch of times at it yeah it it felt like the universe was against us for a couple years there every time

we tried yeah something would happen something would happen so last year in February is when we really got together and became Chase Atlantic again can we talk about the idea of the universe working Against you mhm do you feel like that came because of some success I don't know I we just got put like we tried to go to Tahoe and then they had the worst winter storm they've had in like over 100 years and like we spend most of our time instead of making music shoveling snow so we could surv survive instead of yeah

three Australians in the middle of a winter storm in Tahoe we're like yeah we'll go away first time going away to make our own album you know what I mean Like that special trip and we were just shoveling snow and like getting our cars like stuck stuck and then trying and then Christian I when we landed at the airport like it was just blizzarding and Christian really doesn't like when I driving around I'm already sketchy as it is and so we're going through this blizzard the road doesn't even exist can't see anything and um he

was actually really good about it well he he drove very slow and very carefully we Got through it but even to get to the house we were like what the [ __ ] we need to acknowledge like what a feat that is because one you're driving on a totally opposite side of the road that you're not used to and then on top of that like when's the last time you experienced yeah no yeah does no snow no yeah never I mean Clinton Clinton was always the driver you know we we came out to America when

we were like 18 17 we never got our driver's license since Clinton o Drove us around also the car wasn't well equipped for driving in snow Yeah tahos are not good in the snow you would yeah they're not good in Tahoe T tah aren't good in t tah aren't good no not in Taho great cars but they're not buil for I've seen them they're not built for the snow yeah so when Clinton went up he went up with uh Seth who does like a lot of our like um mastering and mixing and uh the car

I remember when we drove past it was stuck in this area they couldn't move it And it already was like 34 like up to the roof with snow surround that was our introduction couple days after that you couldn't even see you just knew where the car was because of a big snow pile yeah and this was like like 3 minutes away from the house it wasn't just like directly near the house wait so okay how long were you playing to stay in Tahoe to make music we were going to try and make like an album

yeah we were going to try and make or at least like half an Album we made one song Wait so we were thinking about like weeks right yeah we were there three three and a half four weeks there was moments there where it's like I can't see us leaving Tahoe alive yeah okay so Tahoe fails you said you make one song yeah did that song make the album did it did Ricochet Ricochet yeah if you listen to the first liyrics pillowed up in a win of stor yeah so okay you get one record out of

it but then you choose to pause after that we Just couldn't find the momentum or like the time to lock in because we live we were living together when we made Beauty and death when we saw you guys off yeah yeah and so it was a lot easier to just you know what I mean yeah you're doing it all the time you your own yeah and you just share but then when you start moving to your own houses and then you have to find the time to everyone's available to connect and I think our issue

was consistency so we would make a Good song Mitchell would write something really cool and then the next day oh I've got this coming up I can't do it so we didn't find the time so last year it was like block out everything and we had to turn the chase Atlantic back on yeah and that took us I'd say a week yeah I mean throughout it was still it was still scary as well because I me personally I didn't even I was like second guessing everything I was doing and then I was like I don't

know how to Make music cuz it was it was the first time it's like how do you make music like Chase Atlantic usually we'd be like inspired by an album or different artists we' had life happen this was the first yeah we we trying to we were trying to go with what we' already made and like our sound cuz we had it kind of defined by the third album so fourth album is actually pretty scary you know so it's like this idea of being inspired by your yourself yeah and and and not Only like not

trying to like beat what we had done last time but still meeting those same uh like expectations in terms of like quality of of the songs and the songwriting and and like the depth behind it and there's a lot of second guessing off to three years you know what I mean yeah because the other thing is like people can fall into this idea of like doing something just because they think that's what their fans want as opposed to doing this is for us for Sure but that's probably why it did take so long because bance

we had moments where we were making songs that we weren't that happy with but we never like we're pretty good in a sense that if we're going to continue with an idea it's one that we all yeah it can't be like it can't be like it's okay we should probably continue be like it's is good enough we have to continue on this how many ideas came before the one that we settled on which is lost in heaven um Are you talking about like the the the name of the album or the album itself name concept

like how do you really start that process so we haded like a like 75% of an album done and then I left my computer in the rain I don't back any of my stuff up like an idiot so yeah we have so much to dissect here kind of that's kind of like ah so that a little disheartening wait hold on hold on hold on you had SE so 75% of this album is done yeah it's all not backed Up nope where where do you leave your laptop just outside like like it just rains randomly you

can't tell it wasn't it wasn't like overcast I just accidentally left my laptop out in the backyard and um it man it just pissed down and rain that night K will do that be a beautiful sunny day and then Monsoon at night and I was like my heart just sunk my stomach sunk I was like no so were you able to recover any Of that 75% so that's all just wiped yep yep and how how do you even start to rebuild you just go [ __ ] it well this is back to the this is

the back to the universe feeling like it's against you but it's not it's not that it was against us it was just waiting it wasn't the right time to make an album and I think we didn't have enough to talk about then yeah after Beauty and death you know two years after it's like not much had happened we'd gone on a tour or Two but like life hadn't actually happened to us yet yes so all those experiences that kind of made it more difficult in a sense made it easier as well do you just rebuild

the album from scratch after that or yeah you don't try and base anything off of the old wow cuz you can remember it you you have to open the session file be like okay that's how it goes but if you don't have anything to reference you don't you don't remember how a song went was any part of You even for a little bit like trying to chase what you had because you believed in it I mean but I knew I was like yeah it's gone I'm so sorry all right I mean yeah it was meant

to be in a weird way we made an album you that and the album's great thank you and more life was lived but I understand that right so like you release release three albums all you're doing for a long time is just supporting that work and in order to do that like you everything goes on pause Because your life becomes supporting these albums and all your whole catalog yeah via tours and promo and travel and the whole thing MH and art imitates life and like putting putting life on hold kind of means you you stall

making art because you haven't got anything to write about yes yeah and you also like I feel like even with production because for this album Christian like leveled up his production and was going nuts and it was it was really cool to kind of have That extra support you know what I mean and um it yeah it it was it was it was a game changer for sure and so I think having that time as well so we could all kind of hone in our craft more was kind of a blessing um and the fact

that we were able to collaborate in a sense that it made it easier for one person or the other we spent a week or two weeks making instrumentals and in that time Mitchell was still writing and at the end of Every week maybe on a Wednesday or a Thursday we'd get together and try and write some stuff Mitchell would freestyle some stuff yeah but it it kind of is you get into a bit of um Grand Hog Day because you wake up go to studio and then sometimes go to sleep next day I got to

go Studio again and then next day I got to go Studio again did you force yourself to try to get it out like in a concentrated set a time but at the same time you can't force Obviously good music it's impossible um but we were at least forcing ourselves to show up yeah that's that's what you can do you can force yourself to show up because you force the music yeah you can make uh maybe two or three not great songs but if you're there and you're there the next day you'll find one yeah consistency

is everything and I'm showing up is half the battle y [ __ ] and by the way out of the two or three songs you don't end up using could eventually Come the one you use you know yeah yeah every song's a stepping stone to where you need be Ricochet you know Ricochet was kind of in the background for a long time yeah and we we worked on that a few times yeah Mitchell took it home one day like we hadn't heard it for ages Mitchell took it home reworked it added that really cool Bridge

we already had the Ricochet chorus but then the verses now we can write about Tahoe in the song knowing that it's one that survived Taho So yeah in a sense it did work out for the best and it's become a fan favorite for sure yeah what story are you telling with this whole album or like what story ended up presenting itself once it was all done um I don't know a lot of vulnerability I mean it was it's crazy CU I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I was watching the Grammys and a lot of

the songs you know what I mean you listen to the lyrics and you're like okay there's there's not a ton of Transparency in here it doesn't feel like this artist is really sharing a piece of their soul if that makes sense a like there's there's some songs that do feel very emotional and and vulnerable but the amount of vulnerability is almost like uh like it was a it was a coin toss for sure like it could have gone one or two ways with the amount of vulnerability we put onto this album like touching on subjects

that we weren't sure we were to touch Them I think what I was surprised about is the amount of people in some of the songs the amount of songwriters producers we can't do that because of what we're talking about and how vulnerable we're getting you can't have somebody else in a room write about together you know so we don't have other songwriters we don't have other producers yeah and when they're saying thank you it's like I want to say thank you to the all the songwriters all the Producers who helped us and there's nothing wrong

with that you know I mean that that's just how it goes but I was like damn we're really putting in yeah like prod like producing it ourselves having the instrumentals entirely produced by us and then having the lyrics entirely written by us and then Clinton and us spending a month afterwards mixing it in a studio with Seth every night like we're there the whole time you mentioned like themes That or topics that you may be not allowed to talk about what does that mean to be allowed to talk about I don't know that maybe wouldn't

be accepted or would be too kind of too too intense maybe listener are you talking about a record like die for me oh not so much that one uh like disconnected disconnected disconnected Amy Amy was definitely like a I mean but we've written songs like that before That were like a kind of a story more than our lives if that makes sense but there is a similar theme that connects to three of those yeah um but it's just that Sher vulnerability and knowing that we got that support after the album was released and and the

feedback and and everyone was like this is this is great I think the next album we can even try and push that limit even more can we explore die for me I mean the theme there is prioritizing drugs over a Relationship correct um i' say that's that's more you song the song you okay that's that's yeah was Prior was prioritizing drugs over relationship then learning to prioritize a relationship over drugs yeah so you is about that yeah you you more you so where is diaper me what is diaper me is just kind of like a

it's kind of beauty and death es that was the one that was kind of just here's the bridge Between Beauty and death and the cool new record that one was a was a cool song I'd say us trying to not trying to be just us not taking it too seriously yeah because a lot of songs are pretty heavy and that one we'll like we'll just we'll just make it chill hour's loss seems pretty heavy yeah what were you guys going through when you were ring that one I I don't know I mean just always going

through something I think that's one of the challenges of of Becoming more successful um they always say the classic line More Money More Problems um also like when you're doing it all by yourselves it's very um isolating and and you don't really have a lot of people to tell you what is the right way to approach certain situations in life especially being from Australia you know what I mean and now having like like over 23 million monthly listeners and being this This these artists that like are really doing like well and excelling but it's all

happened it's not happened extremely fast but it's happened fast enough to the point where you start to I don't know you get kind of from me personally I I I got in Posta syndrome pretty bad and was like I don't know how this is happening like we we put on a show at the O2 uh we put the tickets out and then they sold under an hour and it's like What it's a bit of it shock you know you still feel like you can't how's that going to how are we going to sell that out

like O2 in Sydney I've seen Katie Perry there you know that some of the biggest artists in the world somehow we headlining it to sell you know 10 15,000 tickets it's like how how did that happen yeah you just like I have you I mean do you have you tried to figure out why people connect to your music I mean a lot of it has to be the vulnerability Correct 100% it has to it has to be something I mean like there's not enough information cuz we're also kind of introverted by Nature we don't we

don't go to a bunch of like parties with other artists and and connect and and and blink up with a bunch of I mean like Australians we have a ton of friends you know Australians are aloof based on literally the geography of the planet like you are very much out on your own and there's also not much of an artist Community in Australia there is there is but it's not like in Australia we're not in Australia that's the thing you're in La yeah well not I wouldn't say that there's we live here but in Australia

there is a great music scene it's just it never makes it over here because there's a ceiling in Australia the labels are all controlled by a radio station like some of the best artists in the world Radio One radio station one radio station we won't say who but uh RS With nipple Pace um but we have a lot of friends who are Great Australian artists right and there is a huge Community there and it's just that they never kind of make it over here or never get a chance to come over here not make it

never get a chance to come over here and give America a chance whereas for us that was always the goal like it's an interesting conversation to have because okay okay I've heard from certain radio stations not nipple Ray but I've heard from other ones list and stuff you know that it's a record label problem record labels aren't choosing to in like I don't know if it's a record label problem because Talent is Talent you can't deny that um yeah but like if why aren't they signing local acts why aren't record labels signing Australian acts I

mean I don't know what's going going on that's that again that's what that's what we're trying to Say they're literally in the business of importing other culture and bringing it in well what what did you guys do then to make it out of Australia that's what I'm saying well we actually we also played Barkley in Brooklyn that's huge yeah but imposter I mean we we started we just released stuff ourselves well that yeah we we had we had no label we had no management we were just in Brisbane going to school releasing music and Joel

And benj we always had plans to go to America but Joel and Benji Madden took us to America put us in a studio yeah they they put us in front of a few talented people as well but at the end of the day um it doesn't matter what what record label you're assigned to because I agree with that totally you know what I mean if if you have good enough art or like art that enough people can relate to or they want to listen to then they're going to listen To it regardless of who the

you can't be restricted it also it shouldn't stop you from releasing music it's not like your record label restricts people it's like don't stream these artists we don't want you to stream them they just might when they're shelving people they're just not investing what they might giving them the same kind of public attention yeah whereas we're very underground like we don't have everything's organic we have no like PRT stunts like we don't go nuts On the internet we're not making Tik toks we're just letting it kind of do its own thing well you've also cultivated

the community that rides with you yeah absolutely and they've been around for years and to your point right like music is democratized more than ever Gatekeepers have less say and their gates are much shorter to hurdle over because of the way things are democratized like even today compared to the when we first met like dude like People have the opportunity to kind of build their own destiny yeah it's not it's not about a lot of people will make excuses though oh I I was literally thinking this all the excuses people can hit the comment section

with which is like you know but like these guys don't know what they're talking about I've been making music for 20 years playlist are controlled by the manil we're not on any playlist by the way yeah no but I think that's also why people love you And there is like this community that is cat I don't know if Counter Culture is the right way to describe it but it is Counter Culture means like not going with the flow yeah yeah I I is the flow I feel that as well also cultivated it with the live

performances we've done yeah how many shows we played invested our time into into into our mus and in and invested yeah our time into our music our time into our live shows and we just Leave it all out there and that's I think what helps us be appreciated why doesn't a band like Chase Atlantic get acknowledged by the Grammys again I don't know probably I think again going back to what you were saying before maybe some of the stuff we talk about about is like yeah is it too much is it too vulnerable but then

again isn't that what well as an expression it is but I don't know if the Grammys are ready yet To to have a Chase Atlantic but I will say this like it is it's not political is the wrong way to express it it it does look very political but you need to make an effort to be yeah in the G like you got to play the game they're not going to just like pull your music and otherwise there would be so many you have to submit like it's you have to play the game yes like

you submit you run the process politics I mean it's relationship building yeah but I also I Think everybody plays the game you have to it's it's not whether or not it's an unfair Advantage for some people it's just there's a game you have to play and when I here like oh why didn't they invite us to the Grammys we get it we understand why we're not the we totally understand again like we don't have like a bunch of friends I can understand I mean you see the stuff we talk about it's like should we give

those guys has a table I don't Know are they going to like they going are they going to hop on stage and just like just like be cooked out of their minds I mean we we get it we like we're not upset we totally understand we'd love we'd love to go we eventually get a Grammy we' love to go we'll be good we'll be on our best behavior I think even watching like a few things that uh Chappelle R is that am I saying that right yeah Chapel Ron Chapel Ron um I think a lot

of things she said was Really really really cool she's very smart and uh about like supporting artists if they're if they're being signed to a label and and making sure they're looked after while they're trying to cure the healthcare as well especially with like the mental health stuff she's she hit the nail on the head with that we have amazing people around us in our team and our management um but that still doesn't prepare you for when [ __ ] hits the Fan that is true and there is no support system there is no real

foundation and to be honest like you know music and artists are like money-making assets so if they are sick or out of commission or have to go through something that's just delaying the money-making process and a lot of them have to hide it as well especially if they are going through something what's the is it if they don't have music about that certain thing you know What I mean when we we just did this American tour I think it's called backstage production is the name of the company but every venue we're at there's now a

a call line like a help line for bands who are going that like it says we know how hard it is to tour like call us if you need help which I think is pretty amazing in every Green Room every dressing room we were in wa that's really really cool that's really special that's putting backline production I Think it's prioritizing the right stuff yeah can we talk about Amy is not a person what would you like to right it is a slang term for a drug we like to play with like double onund and all

that kind of stuff but yeah it is a slang term for um adero yeah yeah was did you have a personal Rel relationship with it um so I I take medication for my ADHD I have two per forms add me too um but not in a recreational sense no it's it's I don't have a problem with my medication Yeah but people that do take it recreationally like I've I've heard some horror stories you know um people staying up for days and days on end not getting any sleep and then getting addicted to it yeah using

it as like I can't work until I have that yeah whereas I went back home uh to Ken and I didn't have my medication anymore I was sleepy for like two days and that was that and that was just annoying you know what I mean and I just got to say like They don't actually offer ader all in Australia they offer riddlin because ader all the effects around it you know here in America we don't we don't look at the full picture all the time yeah and I got to say yeah and I I've been

on adal since I was like 10 or 11 that's nuts yeah that's crazy very high dosage and I took it every day till I was 21 and then Dan said you're an [ __ ] when you're on this he was a different person that's fair Seriously yeah well because like what ended up happening was like my whole life changed so like like I was wasn't needing it as much to get through so then it was manifesting on Little Things plate or well it was more of like getting hung up on like the tiniest little details

oh so you just like hypop fix mic I would I would get irritable about things that like were tiny in the scope of the larger picture yeah so that's What I've heard from like other people happening to other people yeah so um what I've done is I've laded my dosage um I just like do it take it when I need to kind of thing me too I I'll micro do at all I'll literally Take 5 milligrams yeah or between five and 10 of instant release exactly and now I'm like that's a mega dose for me

yeah that's I got to say like dude I was at a point like on between 40 and like 50 or 60 like extended release that's what I was on Immediate release when I first started and then I had to kind of figure that out bring it down but again I don't I don't have a dependency on it you know what I mean if if someone would take it away for the rest of my life right now I'd be like that's I mean that sucks but that's fine it's so interesting like when I was in high

school I did form a dependency on it but like it was more attached to this idea that like you know with ader all like like a lot of those Types of drug stimulants would like curve your appetite and then if I wouldn't eat I wouldn't need to go to the bathroom and then I would go the whole school day without going to the bathroom which is what I wanted no but so I was like I was attached to eat I get sad oh really I get so sad so I need to eat so that was

the one annoying thing when I was um accidentally taking the high dosage was I wouldn't my appetite wouldn't be as good and then I'd be not eating and that would be sad yeah and so I cycle yeah I had to figure that out the cycle make sure I eat so I'm not sad so I can go to the toilet in school this wasn't in school I had undiagnosed add for I don't know 17 years of my life I undiagnosed blindness for 16 wait what not blindness sorry almost is a bad terminology yeah very very poor

short eyesight like anything POS is very blurry I didn't realize no what do you mean how do you not realize That I don't know I don't I guess think you the whole life was blance was BL I thought this was same for everyone every time we go to the movie theaters i' be like it's fine it is there is a bit it's okay there's definitely a bit of Australia of like Superman 3 sucked that is such an Australian thing it is Australia like you'll be right I can't see the board oh you'll be fine I

was like no one can see the board that's why we stand that's why I always at the back You don't have to do any work but then when I even when we watching the Grammys last night I was sh I was like oh my God it's like from 270p to 1080 it's ridiculous did you get glasses yeah when I was 17 after I graduated high school you made it through while being blind made it through ignorance was Bliss you did a right as well it was also the most awesome thing as well to like hold

off for that long and then yet Vision I'm to look forward to it was like wow this [ __ ] is good wait this [ __ ] is [ __ ] clean this is crispy as hell you just had like this blurry idea of everything before yeah but it was I didn't know so I didn't ignorance is bliss do you feel like you had a heightened sense anywhere like was your taste spy senses were tingling all the time was your hearing a little bit better yeah that's what made me so good At music hey hey

take his glasses back away from yeah as soon as I have glasses downhill on by the way that he's such an Australian thing like you'll be all right you my my brother somehow figured it out um he got glasses pretty early on Taylor um but then when I was hanging out with Clinton he was like look at that stupid sign over there and I was likeon this this is the first time it happened's got like 2020 Vision he can Like see anything first time it happened out of high school like yeah you can't read that

I was like no I can't read that I was like how did that never happen once in my life before this he's also Clinton he's got hide and sense of smell as well and has saved us from a bus fire before whoa yeah is that what happened he was like get out I smell a bus fire com I was sitting with Riley in the Riley shout out Riley I was sitting in the front of a bandwagon Clinton comes out and goes I Smell Smoke and we're like I don't smell it cigarette and then Riley looks

out and goes yep everybody out and we turn around and the smoke coming out of the bus so we all leave and then the bus on fire we put it out with an extinguisher we called the company and they said she'll be right and she was right and she was all right she got us to the next venue and then we got a different bus but yeah we Dead Set they we drove the bus after a caught fire to the next place any b battle scar forever you know Amy is a song based off of

yeah yeah it is a double but it's not about it's not about your life it's about somebody else's recreational habits ironically Never End chemically forced Euphoria Amy injects there you got the lyrics down there I do that is gnly yeah no they're pretty intense um but these are stories I mean this is Real this happens to real people in real life you know I mean I don't know anyone personally myself but I've heard stories from other people um from fans uh so forth like on the internet and just yeah I I remember when we wrote

heaven and back that um there was a really good response to that um from a few people saying like this really helped me in a time of n where I was really struggling so that inspires this idea of taking their Stories and yeah kind of just making a story it's it's not even I guess it's not helpful you know what I mean there's no tips in there on how to fix it it's just a story of of a real thing that does happen but not based on anyone in the group's reality no no no no

no that one's a little that's a little more intense than what we've what we've done I mean disconnected talking about drugs again yeah I mean what well you know a lot of People on like places like Reddit and stuff do you know like one of the only critiques that does exist on the Internet is that all these guys write about is drugs yes you know if you listen to drugs and money it's actually pretty good that was kind of like a like a viewer discretion listen a discretion type of song where it's like listen if

you listen to the bridge of drugs and money it's a great story uh Clinton dropped Mitchell I at a writing session And said don't write song songs about drugs or money drugs and money yeah I think I think it's the cool music we listen to Growing Up in a way the drug it's it's it's a good word cuz it's metaphoric and it puts you in like a different landscape as soon as with like the music in itself the atmospheric ambient vibe that we have kind of feels like a drug in a sense trying to pute

yeah so when you're creating these records how is it actually working are You starting with production are starting with lyric like what is it production mainly we start with production I mean we yeah we can't sit down with a guitar and start trying to write songs to that we we produce on Ableton we care so much about the production we care so much but so you're mainly producing right so all of us all us Mitch's probably the best producer but but you are so are you hearing things in Your head like what's B stuff yeah

I think it's hearing stuff in your head especially synth wise just yeah just knowing what to kind of do and what to pick and it's blank canvas it's not like the artist has the idea of what they're going to draw it's just like let's go with it but is the okay the cavas is blank but your intention starts with like a mood or what yeah yeah or like hearing a cool cor agression you know what I mean and then being like how can I take that cor aggression and adapt it into something that sounds entirely

different to that song yeah you know just something that's like inspiring and then you're like okay I feel inspired let me sit down and produce and producing is the fun part it's the non- monotonous part of the job I think how how fleshed out will you get like a track before you start pretty much done we we try to make the song be able to stand on its own yeah really so if you Listen to Amy which we actually did have help at the start of that one from Austin Hall yeah who gave us gave

us he gave us the idea and then Mitchell went in and create and completely changed like a lot of the made it darker than what it was um but all the songs all the instrumentals if you were just to listen to them they could stand on their own cuz we started we released a little instrumental album one day we started as Well producers yeah we started as producers mainly him but as an EDM producer you know we were inspired by Skrillex and KRS and all these all these huge producers Yoshi yeah um like the more

underground like yeah like 16y old SoundCloud yeah like we were doing the the the kind of bass the the moving Bas before drill it was even like if you go back to like um uh J N to the feeling you know what I mean like the bass is gone nuts like That's way before drill yeah way before they were doing it like stock standed like um 5 forign and you know what I mean Central sea you have now used the word momy to twice in your music that's just that's a question we're going to use

it again is that a statement or no well I want to know why why we're going to use it again we're going to we and Umami wait so you've used it three times it's also in numb to the feeling is It Mama SE are you talking about mamaa still yeah okay yeah maybe it's just a lot of time a really unique word 150 songs you getting that Z you getting that Z it's actually quite a low percentage hold on let's dissect that the U in a I've said the word the how many times we said

the you said the let's compare the and Mamita we have we have a whole thing where we say y okay how many Latin albums have the word Mamita in them that's right we need to Get to tell me about your Latin root I don't [ __ ] know anything can we talk about the album artwork it's giving Y2K yeah hey cool yeah nice very good that's what we going for that's what we're going for mission achiev so back to this yeah what are they they're so cute so our friend Chris he been with us since

phases he made the first he made the cover for phases body second record thank you he's been a best friend of ours since really since Co he Pretty much moved in with us during Beauty and death and he's he's so smart man he's the fourth member cuz he's also a fan of the music yeah so he can come in and tell us like oh this is great you know maybe this one doesn't fit in as well that really helps especially when you don't have riding camps like to have even just one extra person to bounce

an idea off yeah dude like you need that you need some outside perspective that is not have our friend Jake St and he's You know what I mean like we have maybe four people that we can bounce our ideas off of outside of the US three um that we'd have to really like kind of listen to and and and hope that it's good enough but yeah he's been helping us for so long and uh the ideas that he brings to the table are always phenomenal and he gets it and yeah to watch him kind of

flesh out those two characters so Ora and void other names of the two characters there yeah to to watch him Flesh them out from Cinema 4D and just have like a basis of what they were going to be to what they became was he was making them do jump back flips it was amazing but it was just standing there stock standard like yeah stock standard and we like make it do a flip to the names are aura and void I love it you mentioned like uh you mentioned the void yeah yeah it's kind of the

you know I mean you got to create some kind of like law for yeah for for music I Just it just adds an extra like interesting element you it's the universe yeah creating that's what we're trying to do with Chase Atlantic universe but creating different worlds within that universe or different universes within the Galaxy of Chase Lenny so does this album take place in the void I mean a lot the void is also something that sits in your stomach yeah you know on those on those on those dark days Where you just feel like there's

a huge hole right here I think in a sense it's also like like that's kind of the Mind Right the ying and yang of the two the two characters in your mind and and light doesn't necessarily mean Aura isn't necessarily A good good and void isar bad yeah they're just different they kind of just coincide with each other you can't have one without the other and um yeah it's it's super cool because we also kind of have these Characters now rather than just having a a storyline it's it's really interesting to implement characters into the

music and have these references to things you can actually name like or invoid to have these two like little Pokemon if you will yeah these like tangible like representations vessels for your music it's and it's so it's so um I just think it's so cool it and yeah we we Chris is an amazing artist and his ideas and he's always bringing ideas to The table and it's just it's always such a pleasure to work with him and they're cute as [ __ ] they're so adorable yeah how's the relationship between the three of you changed

over the years cuz I think you mentioned that you don't live together anymore yeah that's basically it really well you know that's pretty big cuz you're not with each other 24/7 anymore we met uh we were 14 when we met in Australia we were actually living in different cities at the time but we're Growing up gone to high school and then Clinton and Mitchell moved in together obviously they are brothers so they lived together and then after Co you know with we've got respective Partners now and stuff we're getting literally physically bigger we're living in

a house together we both did a session this morning actually before he came this interview oh yeah training we're into gy session so wait so do you live you have Partners here you live Separately in LA or yeah oh [ __ ] yeah so it's kind of even better when we see each other because we have things to tell each other now totally yeah but that that's a huge thing we went from you know we were like Power Rangers we'd drive everywhere together he would slide over the front of the car I'd like roll out

big me the Megatron but yeah that's been the bit the hardest thing about getting together To make music but since we've broken that with heaven the curse like I mean we're in studio tomorrow and Thursday and Friday we're back in yeah that's great back to work really on another album or what's the goal well I guess yeah Essen well a do uh can I say that am I allowed to I don't know say that yeah we're working we're working on the extension of the story of Orin void uhhuh and we already have some bangies in

the in the in the stuff that didn't Make the album yeah what are the biggest differen is now like I mean you're with the label right you are independent yeah I mean we've been with the label Bey and we had 400 ,000 monthly listeners but yeah weren't you with a major though before we were with Warner Brothers for the first one yeah and then BMG for the second and then Fearless now Fearless now for two records yeah and so the like the exponential growth that we've had um just with being with Fearless um yeah We're

grateful to they've been very accomodating with them very accommodating with us cuz obviously the the break but just also letting us be creative figure it out in our own time and there's little things that they do that like a big label wouldn't you know little gifts packages actually when we we held Beauty and death the vinyl I was like nobody's done this for us before this is a real album nobody made vinyls for us before really Yeah and especially like when the roster isn't full of big star like you know what I mean big artists

like huge artists um they they definitely even Concord the extension um of fearless that they've been amazing and um yeah we're just super grateful I also feel like swim is about to hit a billion streams isn't it yeah just um Ryan was showing me the uh like how fast it's going up and it's like 40 streams P like 40 new streams per second It's like 1 point something million a day yeah it's going nuts what did that song teach you anything I don't uh keep making music be careful with the percentages that's fair okay you

cut it all up no no that's all we'll say that's that's all I won't say no more yeah I won't say no more yeah no we were young we're a little naive uh also we didn't have the amount of yeah we didn't have the the money or whatever to or the following so we gave up a lot of it but It's all right because you got to make sacrifices to to get to where you got to go we're going to make lots more song we're going to be Billy boys get the nice little Spotify plug

mhm I think yeah it's an amazing achievement and the fact that we're still kind of underground in a sense like but where like in what number are we in the world 265th big 265th artist in the world um it's still pretty good it's it's just it's crazy I feel like some of the Artists above you guys can't sell out the venues you're selling yeah it's weird it's a it's a difference between what we've leared thanks to Joel and Ben that there's a difference between the internet stardom and a real band A Real Thing something that's

tangible that you can go to and want to go to a show and we've really built that the hard way I believe through Warp Tour through opening up for bands you know the early days we did the hard yards we've never Been um yeah we we haven't really turned down anything because you you never know like these people that are going to the shows this might be their only chance to see a show and so what we've always done was give 110% regardless of whether there's 10 people in the room or 10,000 people in the

room we're going we we're just going to give 110% like no matter what even if like we're sick or like I have like some back issues and doctors Said don't stop doing that stop doing what you're doing on stage and it just can't because you know what I mean the they might only get one chance to see it and why would you treat any show differently to the next we never scaled down we did a room I think it was 700 person room and I think there was like maybe 20 people that bought tickets so

before the show we got the chairs T make the venue look smaller this huge [ __ ] room so so we used to do that we'd go Around America and make the rooms look smaller cuz they kept putting us in rooms that would we couldn't sell out but you would play those rooms like they sold out absolutely exactly that's the thing because there's no difference between those people who bought tickets and why should they get short changed just because the show is small but also you will sell out those venu and bigger ones next time

I mean yeah again still trying to faom this whole O2 and then Manchest is 23,000 and to sell out those venues in under 13,000 in Poland that's amazing yeah I'm we're just so grateful how do you guys push each other to be better um hm I think we're we're we're very patient with each other we're extremely patient with each other very understanding um I mean we're becoming older more mature um still do stupid [ __ ] from time to time but that's life um but like we we respect each other so much like we care

about each other's Feelings and and and we know we're not kind of we never we've never once let anything kind of we don't let our egos go unchecked we've also been taught to to not go to sleep angry yeah obviously we don't live together anymore so it doesn't apply not like doesn't apply as much but when we did that was the only time that things would ever get but even that it's Brothers like I know it sounds cliche and cheesy but it's not like we're Friends like we've gone so far past friendship stage take bullet

for the next part yeah like you nothing if I could tell you that there's a lot of bands sorry not many bands that could have gone through what we went through in the last 3 years together a chance no no way you got you just got to it you know what I mean egos OS three Clash of life we share everything equally regardless of of what's been done you know what I mean we could make A song where Christians produce the whole thing and then he could easily be like well I produce that whole song

I want this amount of I want the percentage of whole production you know what I mean but we don't we share everything equally we always done that it's the only way to survive I mean you look at all the bands from the 70s and ' 80s that they start like it becomes cont I want my song on this instead even though it's not the Best the best foot for they just want to get more money I have personal friends who go to that yeah family bands that go through that it's not very real that's the

thing we always talk about it as well because we see other artists or other bands like kind of having these internal conflicts M where it is about money or or just even credits you know and we're like we're so grateful that we're not in that position and we don't Feel a certain way about it so healthy it just keeps things it just keeps things so easy all of us at one stage have floated away a bit and the other two bring you back down yeah in a heal way not like not anchoring down it's just

it's almost like the opposite it's like you know the the saying of like getting dragged down you know with the ship or whatever it's the opposite it's like grabbing the person and pull pulling them up yeah Carrying them along when they need it instead of people pulling you down you're pulling them back up and it's so real as well it just happens and you're like how do you guys even when I watch the video of the [ __ ] um uh Janes Addiction oh dude yeah and I was like what are you doing and the

the video buddy what happened oh you just like was on stage fight on stage like those your home that's you know that's that stuff happens all the Time when you get too big for your boots and yeah we would never let each other get too big for yeah that's I mean we our OS don't go unchecked yeah and we we've also learned certain times on tour like you know to give each other a bit of space like but we just don't really fight like that there's no time it's no time to fight time for unnecessary

drama [ __ ] going on a [ __ ] men yeah amen you guys are great thank you genuinely you you almost said you love us and I Mean you can say love you guys I love you guys we love you we love you guys you guys are great I have a special place in my heart for Australian people too they're good people most of us we try yeah yeah that's true most most my partner's from Australia cool he's a hoot in a [ __ ] half Dude where's he from uh Adelaide from Adelaide we

uh we play we got to play in Adelaide this time and we went to Perth for the first time yeah very first time Going to us we weren't sure it was real yeah we weren't 100% sure talk about it you know oh I'm T par Kevin Parker I'm from per sure we've never heard I've never seen it right there it's real prove it it's really nice as well you thought you liked it lovely beautiful place so where are you from Sydney from from path uh Sydney Sydney's one of my favorite cities on Earth really yeah

I love it I could I could live in work City on theing City I think it's the Best what inspires your hair will you ever change it I don't know I I don't know man it's just the more I have it the deeper it gets to the harder it gets to change it because um when I was like younger My grandmother used to do it um and then I started doing it again later on in life and then I never got cold out or anything on the internet for it like it's most people be like

oh he's he's um what's the terminology it's um Appropriation yeah cultural appropriation but um grandmother's from the Congo yeah so that's not like my excuse but like I haven't been called out for it yet but if I were to then you know what I mean it's not something I tried to steal or copy or like so I don't know if you got receipts yeah I I I don't need the receipts so that's what I'm trying to say um but yeah I don't think not for a hot minute like I C I still can't grow like

a beard so maybe Once I can grow a beard I can change my hairstyle we both can't grow beards you you can you're being humble actually years you got something though you can make something happen that I saw that handlebar oh yeah that was pretty sick that's nuts I can't do anything like that that was sick yeah do you braid it yourself um Jordan does my beautiful girlfriend really yeah very cool it's she's really good at it so I'm stoked like she always switch it up and I don't Have to go to a headdress so

it's a cool color too this is just a natural color really it's like a grayish Brown yeah so I got I got mad Grays interesting I love how it's kind of onor your grandmother that's so cool yeah I mean like she she's still alive my grandfather passed recently but um she's still alive and she's so help like she's she might live she might yeah she might be she might live past a 100 who knows she had a great we she came to the Brisbane show Which was her first time seeing us live yeah yeah that's

amazing she she's very she she she's a beautiful person she got a she got the spirit of a thousand words why do you wear the glove I don't know I'm just into the glove thing at the moment okay I've got a lot of like non answers for you today I'm so sorry fine I wish I had an answer for everything no you like having extra grip I understand no it's it's like when I grabbed the water early it slipped out of my hand That makes no sense cuz I also goting go-karting um that's a goart

no yeah on the 45 big Goot go- cotting fan like go go as much as I can I go carting where do you go cart um K1 oh cool yeah yeah know that place um B Bank sometimes the other one but I've got like some good times there I used to go go cing yeah it's it's so fun man and because we do like live shows and there's there's that adrenaline that you get so it's tough to Find other ways to kind of get close to that amount of adrenaline when you're not on the road

touring go-karting is it yeah go-karting like you're in the present like I don't I I have a lot of anxiety just just generalized and so when I'm go-karting my mind is just clear you know what I mean cuz you're F you're so hyper focused on this one thing cuz you're trying to set these good lap times and not hit anyone and so I just find it's a beautiful Outlet yeah I want to go-kart I want to go it's fun it's so it's so wholesome as well like it is I mean it's crazy as well cuz

you're go- cutting and some people just don't know how to do it it's like you here in a real car and now you have no idea how to drive this thing what they're too spinny what are you talking about they like how do I rever you can't hold down the brake and the accelerate at the same time you Drove here in a real car what do you mean you you can't figure this out they're like crash into you like sorry it's like what the I relate to you can't do that in real life you can't

just crash into someone be like I don't know I don't know my bad go-karts are too spinny too greasy tooy spinning out you our very own Carlos doesn't drive would you try driving a go-kart someone said that's the way to learn someone Said that's the way to learn you just got to jump into it man he's get a real carti really didn't want to drive at first but then he just jumped into it he was good it was actually was my now girlfriend she was like do you have your license I was like yeah but

I'm not a very confident driver she's like come pick me up at the airport tomorrow so I practiced and drove the day before I drove from our place in Studio City turned the highways off cuz I was like I'm not ready for yeah no there was a good minute where you weren't driving so it took you about I don't know 4 and a half hours to get got to the airport using back street which borderline impossible possible to do it's possible but I remember I picked her up and we go back and like sh 2

and 1 half hours that's you know we can get home quicker no no we can't yeah it took me it took me a second 30 minutes and you just off the high 4 hours ACD gets on he's like [ __ ] well I didn't know how to like I didn't know how to do are you in toxicated so no I'm just [ __ ] scared [ __ ] Terri we don't have big highways in Australia yeah and it's on the other side of the road is very scary and I can drive in Australia I tried

I think you tried what happened I I pulled over I was I couldn't do it no yeah I was like I got to go you got to take over because like dude the the depth perception the side I was always driving so close to so So you you you get used to that but I to be fair I kind of I did 100 hours in Australia to get my loan but it was in Ken you can't go faster than like what 60 MPH and they're always watching you there I ha bosted yeah it's crazy when

I came to America I was driving around that's basically where I Learned to Drive properly was like defensive driving was in America yeah like dude Big Brothers watching you in Australia and it's like too much the police need To make a certain amount of money and especially in a small town dude it's crazy yeah there's like like yeah they just random breathalizer stops like we have to do it it's mandatory can't turn around yeah and there's like Facebook groups that like tell you where all the stops are it's like hard you and like and they

looking for weed they're looking for Booze yeah the only way to get around the weed thing is you got to use like lemon or lime and put it on Your tongue yeah luckily I didn't I um there was a few times mom picked me up from school and I was doing my Learners and I was high and but like they're not going to pull over a guy in a school uniform driving with his El plates with his mom yeah they might to teach what are you what have you been on while you're at school let

me just see if you been you're drunk right now they wouldn't assume mom's always like why you been crying that in America they still do like the the field sobriety test and then if you fail that you do a breath test yeah but but that's only for alcohol they actually can't test you for weed they they don't have the thing or they just don't want to no there's but well bunch of sign saying don't drive well High Yeah that's the the extent of drive while high if you can't drive while you're high is what I

just I just feel like the field sobriety it's like just go straight to the Breer It makes your life way easier no one has to car or I've got really good balance I've got I've got neuropathy I suck at balancing on one leg I remember there was one time when I first got neuropathy when we in cans the bounce of I hadn't had a single drink B is like you look too drunk to get in and that's when I realized I was like wobbling while I was standing and I was like oh this is sad

I was like yeah no I just got like this thing called neuropathy I didn't realize I was wobbling while I was standing U right he's like you're the second person that said that to you get out of here dang it and queens and all the bars and clubs are all connected so if you don't get into one place you won't get into others most likely most likely they communicate yeah they communicate they've got scans like your LIC he's got like a little chip in it in his ID that he like scans holy [ __ ]

God they're too smart anyhow this is a great Conversation thank you for having us fun this is like our first media thing in a while welcome back did a good job thank you we'll see you guys for the next album please keep coming back listen to all Chase Atlantics music it's waiting for you link below okay Amazon music discography the entire thing brand new album All waiting for you lost in heaven Chase Atlantic everybody yeah amazing [Music]