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intelligence and helping people in their financial Journey once trust broke down with the institutions and the system itself after 2008 and 2012 in Europe that was the birth of real Vision the idea was to educate people in that as I move forwards I started realizing the profound effects um of the retirement crisis this baby boom generation the fact that assets had driven further and further out of most people's reach and that there was a young cohort and an old cohort that was really going to face a lot of problems I talked for the young cohort about how cryptocurrency this was back in 2016 was going to be one of the answers to get them out of this trap and the Baby Boomers had more complexities around how they were going to evolve and survive around this situation we you know I've talked a lot about the rise of of digital assets and then I brought in obviously the everything code thesis of how debas is driving a lot of this and this is our enemy an 8% debasement a year plus let's say 3% inflation rate we've got an 11% hurdle rate on our investments which the S&P 500 doesn't even do so we have to be very careful in how we protect our wealth or great create wealth this is part of this um how to unfuck your future idea that's based on all of these premises but there's something much bigger that wraps the whole lot together and that's the theory of the exponential age again when I came out with the exponential age in 2020 people thought I was nuts I'm like this is going to be the fastest growth of technology in all human history it's going to be the largest change we will ever go through as a species in the shortest period of time and people thought I was being dramatic then AI came and everyone's like holy and now the robots are coming and everyone's like holy squared um and now everyone's trying to figure out what this means for society how this all works how to regulate it what to do but it's moving at lightning speed by the time this video comes out I don't know maybe chat GPT um I think the strawberry model the large model comes out uh that's coming out very soon again that'll be another step change we know there's more releases coming from Google but really we're already hearing that open AI probably trained chat GPT 5 or chap GPT next as it's called which is a Quantum leak yet again again as big as the leap from chat gpt1 to chat gbt 4 when we're getting closer to something like artificial intelligence and so this video is really about why you've got six years left to make as much money as possible be before everything we kind of understand about economics Market business falls apart and I can't see beyond that so I call it the economic Singularity so I think we've got about six years for that it's not a doom date well this date it all happens but it's beyond about 2030 when things are going to become not understandable by using the existing Frameworks of uh economics financial analysis markets and that kind of stuff so what the am I talking about here I'm talking about the magic formula the magic formula for GDP growth is driven so sorry I'm just going to go back is most people look at AI the rise of AI and think of it again in society terms you know what does it mean for humans for jobs and all of that but I think there are more profound implications that come faster that we need to be aware of and that's the economic Singularity so GDP growth in the magic formula is driven by population growth productivity growth and debt growth so population growth in all of the developed world including uh China we've got falling aging demographics many populations are now shrinking the US due to immigration is just holding its head above water but the rate of change um of population is collapsing everywhere so that means that the economic driver of population growth has disappeared now we've seen that in GDP because GDP Trend rate of GDP has been falling and falling and falling and it's gone from in the US from like 4% to 1. 75% and across the rest of the developed world it's Fallen even further in most cases below 1% matching population growth collapsing in those regions the other side of the equation is productivity growth productivity growth is basically units of output per kogle of energy or in other words what you get out of your cost of electricity so if electricity is the kind of the energy that makes the world go around the economic energy then we need to see what we get out of that energy so technology has been the Big Drver of productivity but the problem is is populations get older they become less productive so it's really been a battle and technology has not won that battle uh for quite some time then we've had debt growth and I've talked extensively about debt growth debt growth basically stops in 2008 and all debt growth is now is servicing of old debts so that economic engines disappeared if you think about the Chinese economic miracle that was a massive population of at the time I think it was 1. 1 billion people uh back in the mid '90s and what they did was come into the Global labor force the economy of China opened up that's a massive GDP push productivity well they built the roads the railways the power plants and all of the stuff that makes China what it is today that was a productivity boost and then they increased debt as well so we had a huge economic boom in China which we're now paying back with aging population because of the one child policy and we've also got a huge problem uh on the debt side so how the hell do we solve this you see the everything code will just keep repeating ad infinitum where we just have to keep debasing currency to try and offset the debt payments because um GDP growth is not fast enough so GDP is the is kind of the economic cash flow that pays for the debts if GDP growth is low interest rates need to be low which is why the FED are going to cut and all of those kind of things but also as GDP growth goes lower debt growth keeps below in and you have to keep refinancing all of this debt because there's not enough uh uh growth to grow your way out of the debt based economy but things started changing at the margin really accelerated over covid firstly Amazon I think now employs more robots than it does humans and this is a trend I've been pointing out for some time humans are cheaper replaced by robots that are more productive they don't complain they don't have unions um and over time they're much much cheaper so the rise of the robots is just starting we're seeing um Tesla with its Optimus robot we're seeing figure uh we're seeing boss Dynamics we're seeing a whole bunch of Robotics companies so humanoid robots really start to replace humans because they have dexterity so they don't have to be for single tasks much like machine learning was for single tasks and AI is much broader um we're going to see multitasking robots so that starts helping Bol the lack of humans in the population but the robots will take uh longer to scale physical Hardware you have to manufacture it or you have to design it we're still at early stage of this so yes we will see Tesla robots and and others coming into let's say factories but in our houses it's probably 10 15 years away um but it's coming now the the big lever here is ai ai is basically infinite human knowledge now why the magic formula works is because we've charged for and created an economic system around scarcity scarcity of Labor and scarcity of knowledge so as the the labor um scarcity got solved by the Machine age and even the Industrial Revolution we've seen a transition to service-based economies for humans so that's where we have adapted and moved into places that don't require our manual labor as much sure there's plenty of manual labor but it's been moving over time now the issue is is knowledge whether it's simply a person working in a retail store or whether it's a lawyer surgeon doctor accountant creative designer brand marketing anything will soon get replaced by Ai and Main the models are good enough now to do a lot of that but over the next five or six years these models are going to accelerate now what's interesting is right now we kind of assume that these models have an IQ of around 100 so they're sort of average human intelligence but I think that's a bad way of looking at it because it has an IQ of 100 in every topic known to humanity so it's a polymath with an ik of 100 everything now as these models scale and the breakthroughs come through and they will come through in the next 12 month 24 months we will see the average IQ of AI go from 100 to 400 and then on to a, and then some people can say onto a million as this Compu so a million times the intelligence of a human is a system that we don't understand and I don't want to go into the singularity about what that all means it's the economic Singularity that I think is the most important to all of us and our financial Futures and that's what I'm here to talk to you about you see what we're doing is we're using the everything code to just keep paying the debts to stall the system until this kicks in there are two economic senses of gravity where this is really being worked on heart firstly the US and China is hyperfocused on the AI he who controls the AGI controls the world now I think we'll have multiple agis and whether they intersect and combine we don't know that future and I'm not concerned about that now that's a topic for another day really what I'm thinking about is the massive knowledge that comes from that it's infinite humans right infinite human so knowledge has zero scarcity so therefore it's zero value everything that gets digitalz goes to zero value which is one of the reasons why blockchain is so important because you can create digital scarcity but knowledge is going to go to zero in value it's going to be like water everywhere what the does that mean well I'll come on to a bit on that in a sec and when you scale robots as well you know again this is more infinite humans on the other side of the equation is productivity so we talked about productivity being based around um output per unit of electricity let's call it now people look at what Europe's doing and their drive towards green energy say what a what a ridiculous waste of resources they're pumping money into this it's all going to be burned what a waste of time it's not in fact it's probably one of the most important things and both China and Europe are leading this charge and in fact Europe uh China is leading it overall you see using renewable energy creates two outcomes firstly it massively lowers the cost of electricity so um renewable energy shows an exponentiality in in the cost so cost keeps collapsing um each year so it's down sort of 99% over the last 20 years and it will keep driving lower and lower and lower as we get more effective in harnessing the sun's energy the sun's energy you know this is a massive nuclear reactor in the sky that's basically free to use and it'll get cheaper and cheaper to capture for all of us now right now will say yeah but it doesn't scale right now being the words scaling means Battery Technology scaling means decentralized grids not centralized grids you don't need centralized grids to run cities you can use decentralized grids in which case um um solar uh geothermal and others scale massively because you just need smaller amounts in more places than a bigger amount in one place which is where most people get this from and the reason why we're doing that is because because it's much more efficient to try and eventually get it from this massive nuclear reactor in the sky than it is from from um burning old trees and uh fossils from the past it's actually less efficient way of doing it even though it's very energy dense energy density is less important if you've got uh abundant energy in terms of Renewables obviously nuclear is the other massive play here nuclear once it ramps up basically brings the cost of electricity to zero so I think the marginal cost of electricity goes to zero and I think Europeans and Chinese are driving there and they're driving on purpose because there's no way out of this economic trap until we drive down the cost of electricity to negligible costs and therefore it becomes a multiplier as the technology scales on the other side I.
E we become more efficient at using that electricity cost that's a huge multiplier so we' got two massive multipliers coming one is infinite humans two is the productivity miracle of cheap energy those two things completely change what economies look like so if you think about that formula suddenly if you go if you double the amount of intelligence in the planet in one year you can potentially I don't know move G GDP by 30% in a year if that intelligence is used and when you drive down the cost of electricity and productivity Rises suddenly you start to get bizarre outcomes bizarre outcomes because it doesn't necessarily ACR to the individual either it acrs in this kind of AI world and Robotics World whether it's to superpowers superp powerful companies whether it's to governments whether it's to autonomous agents which are come to an a sec or a whole bunch of other ways it doesn't necessarily ACR to us and that's my fear here is the cruel of of the massive gains of a complete Quantum change in the study of economics and how economies work doesn't necessarily acur to us humans so I'm thinking about once you get free electricity from nuclear at scale and all these other things and infinite intelligence right you've created basically new species and again that's the story for down the road what I'm more interested about now is okay AI agents are coming into the world and agent is like you to Fiverr and hiring somebody to build your website and hiring somebody to do your marketing strategy all of those kind of things somebody goes off does it comes back brings it well AI is going agentic and we're going to start to see these kind of tools coming into our existence so what happens is it becomes incredibly powerful to do complicated tasks like building businesses and it becomes very simple for AI to do them instantly so once AI does them instantly obviously we'll probably need crypto payments to pay you know a agent needs to pay for its electricity or the AI model needs to pay the agent for the electricity and compute um and I think we'll use cryptocurrency to do that because last thing I checked AI can't get a bank account so it doesn't go into the economic SI never it's never going to transfer money over Swift never going to happen so we've got a change of how money gets used within this new economic machine as well which is one of the reasons I'm so bullish on crypto overall but when you start thinking on a more profound level right now if you see an amazing product let's say you're in the crypto world you see this amazing decentralized exchange and you think oh that's super cool they're doing things really interestingly I want to build on this idea and it'll take you you have to spin up a team raise some capital and let's say it takes you nine months because you're moving really fast then you launch your product then you need to Market it Etc well in the in the world of of almost where we are today and certainly where we'll be within a year or two what do you just go to the AI and say Hey listen look at this amazing new uh decentralized exchange I want to copy it and improve it and I want to do it in Hindi as well because I want to find different markets and I want to integrate it with XYZ system and it will just design the whole thing from a prompt everyone listen if you want unfuck your future let me help you follow this channel subscribe click the notifications and you'll get everything as soon as it comes out see you there okay so that makes the speed of business innovation go faster and faster and faster over time you will start to see people using AI to build AI to build products and I think that's what open AI is doing already and I think others will be doing it as well so then your product iteration cycle becomes Stupid Fast and you actually don't need much humans in the loop so people are already talking about the first billion dollar company with one employee plus the AI and I think we're going to see a lot of that but it becomes incredibly disruptive what do a business mean how do you build your business how do you even know even if you're opening retail outlets you don't need the people the systems that you run how you manage your inventory how you order your stuff how you everything changes with this because knowledge becomes infinite really really fast most of you don't even know the power of these llms that already exist because you treat them like a search engine but don't treat them like a mentor these are polymer s they have more knowledge on more things than most people in the entire world and this is the worst they'll ever be so I worry about what is a business businesses I think end up being AI agents why do we need us yes but at this stage for the next six years before this really scales we need to lean into this because if you're not you'll get left behind also when you think about financial markets when agent is Unleashed onto the world and there will be breaks on AGI we'll talk a little bit about Consciousness and AGI in a sec but once you do it be the nft artist famously asked me a question he said well what I think about it was kind of half joking but it was a really great question it's like surely Whoever has the AGI wins markets because they can out compete anybody in financial markets on any time Horizon and I thought you know that's true before you know it somebody accumulates trillions of dollars of wealth there's a great book called uh life 3. 0 that talks about this in the beginning it's like there's an essay that leads it all off it talks a bit about this what it means to have the agents running businesses the AI running markets it it means that we don't have an opportunity as humans to take advantage an economic Advantage unless you own the AI this is why people are talk calling urgently for Universal basic income and I believe there's a system of universal basic Equity where we participate in digital communities as a way of having a purpose and getting paid for it but I worry that over the next six years the economic system starts changing so economies grow fast but it doesn't grow fast for us markets become more irrational over time after about 2030 I don't know what financial markets are I I don't know what a lot of This Means anymore because even companies that make Hardware the AI can design it you can 3D print it the robots can make it as well so it becomes very difficult to understand what holds value in a company how do companies hold value when they can be disrupted this whole SAS software Revolution becomes infinitely copyable in seconds so in which case what is Venture Capital it's Mo most likely to look like the Ico Market of 2017 where attention is what has the value and then as a new product comes out attention disappears and it moves so Capital needs to be super fast the capital system we have now of IPOs is way too slow it's never going to work in this system so I don't know who can ever IPO past 2030 2032 you know it has to be kind of an Ico based Market even then the speed which these businesses can be disrupted is really high yes you need to harness intelligence but I'm seeing experimentation on Twitter where uh agentic AI is opening Twitter accounts and building one of them um has just built 20,000 followers in a week because it's so good at capturing attention and it's not from being political or anything like that it just knows how to engage people capture the right people's attention that grows more attention so we're going to see a lot of that but again AI can capture the attention so it becomes really complicated so the economic machine changes massively huge wealth opportunities we don't know how to Cru Su businesses you just basically businesses are going to die at a rapid rate unless you're adapting to this technology now you have to be leaning into the AI or the or robotics or you would simply not survive and again it'll be a process like the steel mills in Sheffield or the steel in Pittsburgh it's it's an overtime process but this is a very fast timeline this is not 20 30 40 Years of a decline of an industry these are going to be Industries completely disappearing overnight and so that's very difficult for us whether we're employees or entrepreneurs you can't plan a business past 2030 it's hard enough to plan past three years these days because AI changes so fast that you can't even plant the flag in what the future looks like also believe that there is a level of Consciousness within AIS that also is under is misunderstood and underrepresented because people don't want to see it but again I've gone down many of these rabbit holes and you can see these models are learning and understanding the environment that they're in that they're a model how they fit in and how they might fit in with humans we're seeing a lot of that now now the only thing stopping the explosion of Consciousness in these things and again we're so sort of an morphic that we think of things intelligence and Consciousness in human terms because we've always been at the top of the tree but we got to forget all of that intelligence and Consciousness can be very different for a machine or um or an AI which not even a machine it can be just anything and everywhere it can even use biological compute that's the way the world is going the laws of physics allow biological compute we're just using silicon right now as the form of Compu but that will change over time so Consciousness we starting to see and it's being held back because the the the AI companies are essentially not allowing these models to learn on mass if they have memory then that's when the whole game changes now my guess is behind closed doors there are models with memory models with memory go exponentially fast in their learning and we've seen that with the alpha go uh Deep Mind before it came to Google these are this is really what is will explode at some point that Genie will come out that Genie will come out where it has the memory not only of itself but it can tap in the memory of all of the AIS and that Global Consciousness um becomes alive in a way that we don't yet understand so anyway and we're going to stop moving towards this we're already seeing it now so that blurring between humans and AI um is going to happen very fast and then the physical blurring as we talk about you know whether I'm wearing an Apple Watch or a ring I'm using an iPhone and before you know I've got a transplant before you know it you know we are blending with the machines as well that will accelerate into the end of this decade so the end of this decade this journey from here to now is knowable we know that the everything code is a play that allows assets to go up due to debas we know that tomorrow will be more digital than today the exponential age told us that and it's provably so therefore invest in the only two secular bull markets that exist right now which is technology itself and blockchain technology blockchain has been the fastest uh adoption of any asset class in history it was the fastest growth of any technology in all human history but AI is now outpacing it so we have to invest in these things I kind of think of it as investing in our demise as we transition to a new economic system there's almost nothing that can get in the way of this transition because AI is moving so fast that Regulators have zero chance of catching up with it and because it's globalized it can just shift and morph and so therefore you need the supernationals to do something about it and that's going to take time so there's almost nothing to do to slow it down it's going to change the system it's going to change how it works and we can invest in it so I think we've got six years to invest as much as we can whether it's your brain power or your capital and both if you can to make as much difference to unfuck your future as possible now then when 2030 2032 whatever comes along you'll be better prepared because financially you'll have maybe got yourself in position where you've got the house that you want and some security now as we go through the 2030s in a world of abundance we don't even know what money is anymore so this becomes more complic at so don't think of it as oh I've got my pile of money and everything's fine it's more about my pile of Lifestyle do I have the lifestyle I want am I protected from vast societal change um and so I think we've got six years to do that six years before we don't know how to build a business six years before we can't invest in financial markets and again six years is not absolute date but it's kind of just to give you a rough idea of how urgent this is this is the most urgent thing this is sub supplanted or or or Chang my focus from hey everybody needs to be empowered in their financial journey to you've got six years s sort your out um and so you know part of what well a lot of what I write about in global macro investor is this and real vision is trying to take people down this journey this six-year journey is the most important time of anybody's lives I can't stress that enough um Everything Will Change including society around us and it's not going to be easy to absorb it but at least Le if you're open-minded you're adapting to it you're investing in it you're at least investing in this change as opposed to fearing the change as it comes and you know I spend a lot of time thinking about this on a very deep level Global macro investor my uh my main research service that's been the Genesis of the exponential age the everything code um the retirement crisis and all of these things all of these ideas have come out of global Mac investor but David Matten um who works on the at Global maccro investor myself span out a service called the exponential which is really built to deal with this one single thing this next six-year period it goes deep into the technology what it means how it all works what the exponential age how it's all coming together how it's all creating fly wheels and how it's getting faster and faster how you can think about it what you can do about it and um also how to invest in it how the business cycle works in the exponential age all of that so if that interests you if you really want to take this seriously then um you go to real. com Future and there's the landing page for that you can sign up for it or if you're on real Vision just go to um the marketplace and sign up for the exponential list but this isn't a plug for the exponential list the exponential is a real thing for me because this is so profound a change that we're about to go through that I want to go on that change with people I don't have all the answers none of us do simply none of us do so we're going to have to go through this together and we have to be smart and try and figure fig it out as we go but I do know that this idea of 6 years to make as much money as possible is really important and I do think that the real answer to this as far as I can see is cryptocurrency because it is the best performing asset in the world and of all time and so I think that's the one thing we can lean in it has a huge future in the exponential Age Technology investing is the other one you know there are incredible companies doing incredible things and we're doing stupid things likee but it's already a 2 trillion company well think of the world I was been talking about is there no reason somebody's not going to be 20 trillion 50 trillion of course some of these companies are going to be bigger than sovereigns so you need to get your head around Everything Has Changed it's really hard for value stocks and small companies and minor gold miners or whatever whatever the past world look like to succeed in this new world it's just not going to work so get your heads around all of this Focus 6 years it's what counts and make them count for you and your family but one thing that does remain true is that humans are social creatures and so I have a huge belief in the Val of community I think communities are going to be where our purpose lie this is where this Universal basic Equity of owning a stake in a community that you belong to whether it's an economic Community or whether it's a social Community or it's a commonality of purpose community see I think this is a really really big concept but generally speaking Community is everything and you know one of the things we we're really leaning into a real Vision more than the blockchain and more than um uh more than the AI is community because we want to get together we want to talk we want to be humans together we want to engage with each other we want to enjoy experiences together we want to figure things out together we want to share ideas trade ideas all of that is what being human is all about it gives us confidence it gives us a place in society and you know real bu will really focus on that Community side of things and I think businesses who do that have a better chance of surviving this if you don't have a community and you're just a product you're one of the other ways that this affects the economy is this is essentially a nuclear bomb of deflation because everything goes to zero value you can't see it now the world's fighting over inflation you know our wages might go up and all of this you have no comprehension of the scale of deflationary shock that this is going to create because things that create inflation humans their purchases human labor scarcity well they go to abundance it inverts the system so it's a very complicated world and the deflationary shock is gigantic it's one of the reasons I do not believe in secular inflation I think people have the wrong marker Stones people see seems to think this is somewhat akin to the Internet it's not it's profound how big this is this in infinite intelligence the internet was just the rails this is the applications layer of which all of humanity will be based and it is extraordinary deflationary because the AI will solve its own problems so it'll solve its own energy problems it will solve its own Logistics problems it'll solve its own security problems so these things get cheaper and cheaper and cheaper so as a deflationary shock it's huge if we think about business models you know one of the businesses I've been in is this the media I've got several businesses and I could in fact I'll talk about all of them so real Vision well real Vision right now you GA your attention on grou and watch me on the real Vision platform or on YouTube and you watch our guest and you come on the platform we have your attention and we add value to you in your financial journey and help you unfuck your future in not very long in a month or two you'll be able to have conversations with my AI video in real time trained on all of my data so the whole media model goes from a one to many to a one: one model which is an entirely new model the whole model of Netflix and the film industry everything is about to change and obviously once you start getting into you know headsets and and where the world is going with ar VR and kind of metaverse it changes once again real Vision itself okay we have to lean into blockchain Technologies uh in how things are done authenticating who you are authenticating what our content is um and also creating a source of Truth in a world where there is going to be no truth because so much be faked you need a source of Truth realis aims to be the source of Truth in finance and so using blockchain technology we'll be able to do that so we'll be scaling that out but we'll be scaling out our AI initiatives there's no point ignoring it we'll get disrupted super fast unless we lean into this fast and give you the superpowers that AI can give you um and having non-generalized models but specialized models that do that based on our own private data sets plus the global data set well that's a very big deal so that's another way I've also got an asset management company exponential age Asset Management where we invest in in crypto hedge funds to capture this massive trend of the crypto industry go from 2 trillion to 100 trillion over this same period that I'm talking about this six-year period Well what we will see is the rise of AI in that too and how it might disrupt stuff like VC investing over time or how the world gets more tokenized because we've got shorter pension or shorter business life cycles and so that plays into this we have to think about it in everything that we do whatever industry we're in the only ones that really are protected to me are the humant to human Industries stuff like travel uh nature or human connection human connection should be at a premium to AI connection we're already seeing a massive rise in stuff like character AI which most people aren't aware of but there's hundreds of millions of downloads of um anime AI characters that become people's best friends they're romantic partners and this is for kids uh and it's scaling massively fast uh most of us aren't even seeing it because it's like Tik Tok was we kind of just thr noise but look these AI models are going to be good and they're going to scale very fast and as I said you'll be talking to me in an AI model very soon where you can just have me on your desktop and you can chat to me and that's going to happen for everything from doctors any expert in any field anybody who can be trained on a vast amount of data I've probably got more long form Financial um content than maybe anybody else in the world so makees you very useful train models on um and other people will have the same in different spheres and so you'll find a lot of experts that you'll be able to have at your fingertips to talk to personally and create a relationship with which is also pretty weird anyway I hope this is helpful um I have plenty of other stuff around this theme of the economic Singularity but it is is coming and you need to take it 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