I asked Kendall Jenner out

You're going to figure it out in your dreams. Good night, Owen Theo. You guys, this is really big for me. Seeing you pull up to my house, I had chills. I had full body chills. No, I'm not kidding. I was like, I'm either going to [ __ ] pee, or throw up. And I did all three at once. WE HAVE KENDALL JENNER ON THE [ __ ] PODCAST. WHAT? I'm so happy to have you here. >> Your dreams, babe. >> Yes. Wait, thank you so much for coming. >> Oh my god. Thanks for having me.

I had to beg for this interview. >> Okay, that's not what happened. That's not what happened. >> Yes, it is what happened. Can you tell your version? Okay, this is my version of the story. I would die for Kendall to come on [ __ ] in your dreams. And that's an obvious and that's everyone knows that. I didn't want to ask you >> because you can't ask Kendall Jenner to come on your podcast. That's like a faux. >> You can't obsessed with you. >> So Kendall comes up to me at a party. By the way,

I'm a plus one at this party. I'm like, I shouldn't be there. Kendall comes up to me and goes, >> why haven't you invited me on In your Dreams? I was literally like, first of all, you know my podcast. Um, it was so nice. It was so nice. >> No, I'm a fan and I watch your podcast. I swear to God. And especially like Hails came on. >> I feel like sometimes Haley and I will do this thing where we're like if she does something first or I do something first, we like consider it a

safe space cuz we're like best friends, so we just like >> You guys are like real best friends. >> Oh yeah. Like it goes deep. When did you guys meet? >> Oh my god. Like 12 years ago. I met her so long ago cuz I went to school with her cousin Ireland. And through Ireland a bit we met like a few times. Like Haley lived in New York. I obviously lived in LA. >> Totally. >> And >> imagine I was like you lived in LA. Imagine I don't know anything about you. >> I'm joking. Okay,

keep going. >> I expect nothing. But um no, Ireland Would have her like Haley would come visit Ireland in LA sometimes. So I kind of met her through that. I think I remember like the first time was at some maybe the Hunger Games premiere or something and Haley was with Ireland and >> um we had met and then I started going to New York all the time for work and Haley was kind of my like New York friend. I didn't really know many people out there >> so we started connecting through that And >> Kendall,

you're so well spoken. >> Stop. Why do you speak like that? >> I don't know. >> You don't You've never said like in your life. >> Stop. Oh my god. I'm saying I've said stop five times. >> No, but that you that was crazy. >> Thank you. >> That was gorgeous. >> I definitely have said like and say it Sometimes, but I'm like I'm a thorough person. >> You're really thorough. I watch this podcast back and I'm like I want to die. I'm like let's take an axe to the whole podcast because I say like

my vocal fry is bad. I say like for growing up in LA though, it's really hard to like I feel like that's an LA thing. >> Wait, where in LA did you grow up? >> Literally Westwood. >> Westwood. >> Yeah. Like right in the middle of LA. I went to Crossroads. >> Oh, stop. Okay. >> Do you see how I said crossroads? Crossroads. Like my voice is crazy. >> I don't know why I didn't know this about you. >> Yeah. LA. LA native. >> But that's why I'm drawn to you because you're an LA native.

You're not a >> I'm not a trans or whatever they call, >> right? No, I'm not. >> No, that's mean. But like I'm not trying to be mean. It's just no >> you are from here and people that are from here like a lot of my friends are like LA like they're from LA and they're the best. >> Do you have a lot of friends from high school still that you can >> I have one very good friend. She's my best friend. >> She's I met her. We've She was two grades older than me so

we knew each Other. >> Isn't it crazy? We still say grades. >> Yeah. >> We're like literally 30 and we're like so she was two grades older. You know what I mean? That's how we >> But it's really totally Me too. Me too. because a lot of my friends too were in her grade and like the guy I had a crush on was in her grade. So it was like I always was like two grades older, two grades older because I wished I was in Their grade. >> Totally. Totally. >> Um but no, we met

like we knew each other in elementary school, but we really got close when I was in ninth grade because we were on the same cheerleading squad. >> And so you're a cheerleader and I are still very close. And then I obviously have friends >> that are from that time or like from life. Like I have friends that I've Known since like the day I was born because our parents were like best friends. We're still very close. Yeah. Oh, >> I love that. >> But like high school high school, I have like my one really amazing

girlfriend. She's like my sister as well. >> I love that. And you talk to her all the time. >> Every day. >> See, I I think LA People who live in LA get a bad rep. Like we people are like >> because it's the people that might be the problem. >> You're like, I don't mean to be mean, but it is because of the trans events. Um, no, it is fully, but we get this rep of being like flighty and having like my friends are >> we're the coolest people. Sorry, we're cool. >> Sorry, we're

amazing. >> We're grounded and normal. >> Sorry, we drive everywhere. We like solitude. Do you like being alone? >> Love it. I'm super independent. I I've found that like the older I've gotten, I enjoy company a lot. Like I love like Hannah, my friend who is my friend since high school, she like she has her fiance now, so like he takes her away from me a lot. But like whenever we can have sleepovers, I'm like, "Please come over for sleepovers." I I don't really >> Well, we're having a sleepover right now. Literally. >> No, I

would love that. >> But I I do I'm a super independent person. Like I can go on a dooo trip. I can like do things by myself. >> Oh, you haven't done that? >> I swear to God, I do it regularly. I just came back from one. >> I like And what do you do there? >> Alone. I can't be alone. >> Yeah, I can do that. I don't know why. Is that crazy? >> No. I think it's a beautiful thing and I wish I had that gene. I just don't have that gene. I can

do it and I really enjoy it and I'm really I think that's like why I mean I want a husband of course but that's why I also don't have kids I feel like because I'm just like I like my freedom. I like this independence that I have right now and I can do my own thing. >> I know. I feel that I've been in a Relationship with Jared for 10 years which is so long and ages me up. >> Beautiful though too. >> Is it? >> Yes. It's amazing. >> Every day I'm like one step

closer to ending it. I'm joking. This is so cute. And like how cool that you guys have also like and correct me if I'm wrong, but also like come up at like together way like in your careers and in life like so beautiful cuz I feel like Sometimes where things can get tricky is if someone's maybe not meeting a goal that they wish that they met and then they're maybe jealous of their friend or their partner. And so it's cool that you guys have done it together and >> in like the coolest way. >> Do

you want to be my therapist? >> Of course. >> You're amazing at this. No, I I love it. I will say I think I was trying to be an actor and it wasn't happening and I was Like, "What the [ __ ] is Why is this not happening for me? I'm so talented." Um, why am I not getting cast? Um, I would see a literally a Timmy Timmy in a movie and I'd be like, "That could have been my role." >> Oh, yeah. Cuz you guys were friends or you knew each other. >> Yeah, we

went to >> I saw this. I think you said it on like a >> I said it on a podcast or something. Yeah. >> And I hoped no one saw that and you saw it. Okay, great. Um, yeah, we went to NYU together. >> Amazing. And then he was like, "I'm going to do a movie." And I was like, "Yeah, I'll probably end up doing a movie, too." And then the movie was Call Me By Your Name and I wanted to die. Um, I was really upset. Um, and then he was nominated and then that

was Timmy. >> But like everybody has their own journey And I feel like it's worked out for you in the way that like in the most perfect way. >> Yeah. No. Exact. And >> you're exactly where you're supposed to be. And not to say that you can't also be an actor and an amazing one in the future or tomorrow or yesterday. Like >> I think that >> it all just happens in the time like everybody's timing is so different. >> Totally. Did you feel that about Modeling? You were like were did you always wanted to

be a be a model? >> I was like and and I I don't know. I was like a I was not into fashion when I was like younger. I was definitely liked tomboy. >> I cared about sports more than I did about like fashiony things. And so it wasn't like I was like always thinking about it, but I do remember like I was very into photography and I was in like a photography class in high school >> and wanted all like had all these like little cameras and you know all these ideas photography wise and

that kind of led me to taking pictures of like my friends. I'd be like, "Can I please take pictures of you?" Or like I'd go outside at like sunset and take like cinematic shots. >> Do you remember that when we used to do that? >> I know. Oh my. Did you have like an inf >> you put them in an album? >> Yeah, exactly. And then um and then like one thing led to the next and my one a friend of mine at the time, she was like, "Well, why don't you hand me the camera?

Like let me try like taking pictures of you." And then she did that and I still have the photos to this day in my computer. Are they stunning? >> I just saw them recently. No, Owen. Like not even close. But I really thought I was giving I must have been >> like 14. Like I was so young and I just like remember kind of enjoying it and I made my own like modeling book just for fun. I was like, "Oh wait, all these photos of me like could I do this kind of a thing?" >>

And so that's where it was really sparked was like a little bit. It wasn't like I was like a little girl like reading magazines. But at that point 14ish, I was like, "Wait a minute. >> This is kind of cool." And then I would Start researching and I was like, "Wow, supermodels and like this is so cool." And then when did you like when did you book your first modeling gig? >> I signed with Willilamina in LA. >> Classic. >> Classic. And then >> do you know that Willilamina this fake account Willamina >> like spelled

differently DMs me all the time saying you could be a model and they want me to send the money? >> Oh no. That's actually so scary. >> No, it's really it's a scam. No, it's a full scam. And Kendall, thank you for No, it's And by the way, I almost got >> like word to the >> No words to the wise. No words of the wise. Willamina UK is fake. Okay, it's fake with two L's, two H's. Of course, my ass goes, >> what? I'm a model. >> I look at Jared, I go, "Honey, I'm

going to be on Vogue." I go, "This is crazy." Um, no. Full fake. >> I started with Willina and my first I remember like my first real job >> was for Forever 21 and it was like I was like dying. I was like, "This is because I shopped at Forever 21. This is everything." >> And so that was my first real job. And I remember feeling gorgeous. Like I remember being like, "Oh my god." And then I look at the photos now and I'm like, "She's a child." Like, >> wait, how old were you? >>

I had to have been 14, 15. >> Probably look it up. That is crazy. >> I don't know. Um, and then you >> did. Were you so cool at school for like being in a Forever 21? >> What's really cool is I do feel like I don't want to speak for her, but I could I'm almost positive she'd say the same. I feel like Kylie and I had such a normal like high school experience even while everything else was going on. Yeah, because we went to the same school. >> Oh my god, that's you. I'm

seeing the photo. >> That's Yeah, that's me. >> This is gorgeous. I mean like she's a child but she's >> she's killing it with her. >> She literally slayed. You slayed. Okay, keep going. So you guys had normal high school experience. How >> I would say so like we were at Sorry, I'm like not good at holding a microphone. Um we were at the same school from preschool or from uh kindergarten all the way through high school. So >> what school was that? >> Sierra Canyon. So we in Chadzsworth. >> Oh my god. I >>

That's what I'm >> I know people who went there. >> Yeah. How old are you? >> I'm >> okay. So, you're my age. So, you'd probably be I was old for my grade. So, you would have been in my grade. >> Can you imagine like what the things we would have just gotten up to such fun. Did you go to college? >> No, I didn't go to college. I went to high school. So, I went through high school and then I told you my friends, all my friends and the people that I thought were cool

were two grades older than me, of course. So by the time I was In 10th grade, everything work like I started working a lot more and >> well everyone left who you loved. >> And then when I was going into 11th, everyone was leaving. They were graduating. >> Totally. >> My 10th grade year was their senior year. >> Oh, that's fun. >> I remember just working a lot to the Point where like I was missing a lot of school as well >> in 10th grade. So Kylie and I kind of came together and obviously with

our parents and we all made the decision that we were going to homeschool for her last three years and my last two. >> Wow. So, you know, it's so random. Kylie and I and I the other day, we were like, we were talking to each other on text and for some reason we couldn't remember if we were a grade or two grades apart And we were like, do you ever have those like brain farts? >> We're like, how do I not know the answer? And neither of us knew it. We were both like, wait a

minute, were we one or two? And then we finally did the math by what I exactly what I just said, which is like, >> okay, she had three years of home school and I had two years of home school, so we're only one grade of home. Oh, you're only one grade above. >> She was one grade below me. Yeah. >> I feel like you could have just Googled that. >> I know. We were like so upset with ourselves. We were like, "What is wrong with us? Why can't we >> hilarious?" >> Why can't we like

remember what grade? >> When did Keeping Up with the Kardashians start? >> When I was 10 and Kylie was nine years old. >> Oh my god. And you still had a normal high school experience? That's amazing. >> I would say so. Like maybe I was living in like my own little bubble or like my own little delusion. I didn't feel like it was weird. We never had weird experiences. Like there was maybe one memory that I have of being in like middle school and some boy like being mean one day said something about our show,

but like >> I barely it's like was not a big thing At all. It did not affect me. I was like what is happening? Okay, moving on. >> Wow. >> And like truly I'm so grateful for my experience. Like it was >> I do feel like it's like shaped >> who you are for me. Yeah. And um I think it's really cool that we got that experience. >> I mean I think that's insane. I think that's amazing. Growing up in any spotlight it's going to be tricky, you Know, and I think when you're 10 years

old >> Yeah. >> with a camera in front of you and it's a reality show. It's not like you're going to It's like >> I will say though like our family obviously it wasn't focused on our older sisters and like my mom and my dad even. And majority of the time Kylie and I were at school. We'd be at school all day while they were filming and the Cameras were in the house and then we'd come home and >> I feel like I repelled it a lot. Like I wasn't like I wasn't coming home like

I want to be a part of this. I'm >> Kylie >> for she's like she's a Leo. She was like loving it. Not that she was loving like the show. She's just such a little character. Like >> she's the best. Like she's the funniest. She was always the girl that was like we Would do little performances and I was like the director of the performance and she was the star. Like that was always >> what did you what would you guys do? >> She had like one very famous amongst the family performance to Hips Don't

Lie >> Hips Don't Lie would come on. She's going to kill me. >> And you're directing this >> and like I would be in the background or like really nervous. I'd be like, "Oh my god, she's so good. Like I'm so scared And nervous. Like I can't be a part of this." >> That's so cute. >> I'm the I was like shy. She was out there. She's the Leo. I'm totally the like please. Like I'm terrified. Nobody talked to me. >> I get it. I get it. >> And um >> so you repelled you repelled

this. >> Oh yeah, I kind of repelled it. Like I'd come home and it was fine with me, but I'd be like I'm gonna go to my room and like get on chat with my friends and Kylie would probably go like hang with my sisters type vibe. >> Did you ever have a moment being like this is cra like we're our family's famous. Was there ever that for you? >> No. I mean >> or did it just was it a normal transition into whatever this is? >> It was like very gradual I'd say. So, I

still to this day will think about it Sometimes because I think that it's again something I'm really grateful for even though I didn't realize it was happening in the moment. I do think that we were still in school and it was happening really like gradually and >> and maybe it's like I always think about like love and like how love is so important in those situations and we had a lot of love. We have a lot of love in our family and that remained the same and also my dad was my dad like from the

Moment I was born and like had a level of you know notoriety and stuff like that. So >> it wasn't like foreign to us either. We knew about the world from a really young age because of our dad. Totally. >> It made it very like >> normal is like the wrong word. It made us like accustomed to it in in a way I guess. And so, um, so yeah, like growing up it was just gradual and I don't >> You're so Do you read a lot? >> I read. >> You're saying words that have never

been said on the podcast? Like accustomed. >> Oh my god. >> By the way, like a simple word. Am >> I like so out of place? >> No, it's so good, Kendall. It's so good. I need I need some smart people around me. >> I need it hanging out with me. >> I'm like really not that. >> Like I want to be funnier. >> Stop. I'm really not. It's like leaving my the the all any funny I have is leaving my body. >> No, it is. >> You're tired. >> Aren't you tired? >> Getting old

is hard. We're old. >> What do you do for getting old? You're not getting old. First of all, we're young. We are. We have to tell ourselves we're young. So young. >> We're like too young. >> No, truly. I believe that. By the way, I believe in like >> Is that why you look like that? >> Talking to your Stop. First of all, stop >> because you like believe you're young. >> No, I'm also like a major stress. Like I stress like my cortisol levels have to be high. Like same. Same. I'm always stressed, which

I know. I think it ages everybody, but I think it ages women more rapidly. Oh god. >> And I just feel like every day I'm like, "Oh my god, >> I'm so stressed." >> Wait, why are you What are you stressed about? It's just in you. >> It's just in me. I get it from Chris Jenner. >> Is Chris Jenner anxious? >> I'd say she's more stressy than anxious. But she has like I think leaned a little more anxious lately. She's kind of called me not to spill her tea. >> I am not to spill

her tea. I'm so I'm a Hypochondric. Same. No, no, no, babe. The worst. I'm scared of everything. >> I think I'm dying every second of every day. Last night, I made Jared wake up at 4:00 a.m. I said, "No, my heart's doing something weird." He said, "Yeah, it's beating." I said, "Oh, >> wait. How have we not hung out sooner? I'm ex I'm the biggest hypochondriac. >> Wait, what are you nervous about?" >> Everything. >> So am I, >> Owen? Everything. Like, >> okay, we might have to cut this because I don't know if I

want to say this publicly, but I I'm recently taking NAD >> Yeah. peptides and I >> those will make you um a little like like they'll make your Yeah, >> Kendall. I was in the ER. I ended up in the ER. They go, "What did you take?" I go, "Need." >> They go They thought we literally They were like a health like shot. They're Like, "Have fun. Healthier." They're like, "Okay, you're good, love." They sent me home. But I'm I am so scared of everything. I'm terrified. >> Me, too. And I'm also um like very

sensitive to everything. So like I could get a normal IV IV bag and if it drips too fast I'm like >> something's wrong. Like totally >> like something's happening. Totally totally send me to the hospital. But like I don't really take Advil even if Unless I like really have to. But like if it's like one I don't care how bad my headache is. It's like I'm taking one. I can't take >> We're going to get along girl. I barely take Advil. >> Yeah. No, I I It's like >> I won't take Tylenol. >> Although I'm

a hypocchondric, it's also worked in my favor in some ways because I think that it's made me really I like Like to educate myself on whether it's health stuff or even beauty stuff and things like that. So, >> what are you obsessed with beautywise? >> I saw you talk to Haley about this because I think her and I always compare notes as well and we like talk about all the things. >> Hey, I'll join that group chat. I'll join that. That's great. Yeah, thanks for inviting me. >> So, I think that like my favorite thing

So, I had really bad acne in like high school and then it came back and I had adult acne at like 20 21 22 >> and >> I'm so sorry. Acne is horrible. >> It's horrible and it's frustrating but um obviously everything's okay now. >> Um >> it's amazing. Do you get acne still? >> No. like I'll get breakouts and stuff like that, but nothing like what I like it was really it was like cystic >> really bad acne. Um, >> but anyways, your first concern when you have acne is like get rid of the

acne and then you realize, oh my god, and then now I have to deal with potentially like lifelong scarring from depending on how bad your acne is, right? So my whole thing after that was like, okay, how do I then how do I now rejuvenate my skin to hopefully like reverse some of the scarring? And I feel like I got really lucky. Um, and obviously I'm extremely Privileged and have like such amazing access to like the best doctors and those kind and the best dermatologists and all those kinds of things. So >> I've been really

lucky in the knowledge that I've received from those people and >> um I don't my so my favorite things are like skin rejuvenation. So like I love PRP and micro needling which is just talked about. Yeah, I've been doing that for a long time because of my acne scars. >> So what is that Kendall? cuz Haley tried to explain it to me and >> she talked about PRF which I'm >> I was super confused. I just nodded and smiled. I >> I don't know as much about like the details of PRF as she does. Although

I have >> What's that? She told me it's a gel. >> Yeah. So it's it's your own plasma. So Mary could also probably Mary's Mary Phillips. She like let >> By the way, I was starruck when Mary Phillips walked into my house. >> Mary could probably also chime in and tell us, but I can't give you the scientific Haley would give you a better like definition of PRF. PRP is they pull your blood, they spin it, and they take the plasma out of the blood, I guess, >> right? >> And then they put it back

onto your face. >> Me not even knowing what plasma is. >> And well, it's it's not it doesn't it's not red. It's like a yellowy creamy white thing >> or gooey thing. So, they basically pull it and then they micro needle. So, they'll take a roller with like a bunch of little needles on it. It's not fun. It doesn't feel good. And then they'll roll your face and then they'll put the >> I've gone this. >> Yeah. They'll put like your own plasma back on your face, >> but then you like are red for three

days. >> There's a little bit of downtime, but essentially from what I've learned, it's like you're it's basically like if you got a cut, right, your blood and your plasma, I guess your your own body would heal that cut. >> Totally. >> They're they're mimicking that like >> See, but my head goes like, wouldn't you scar more? But no, I guess not. >> No, cuz it's so micro micro. >> So, it's like tricking your skin into thinking that it's like injured essentially. And again, anybody can correct me. I am not quoting. I'm not saying that

I know exactly what I'm talking about, but >> from what I know, it's like tricking your skin into thinking it's injured. So then essentially, >> Got it. >> you're you're like healing your skin. >> So, you're big on that. >> I love that. >> How often do you do that? >> It helped me a lot with my scarring. Um, and I think that there's anti-aging like properties to it. And then you can also take that and inject it. So like I've injected that like into like my crow's feet or like my laugh lines and things

like that, but that's the only thing I've ever injected. You're lying. >> I swear to God. Uh, no. I've done two Rounds of baby Botox in my forehead. That's it. Only thing I've ever injected. >> Okay. So, I got my lips done. >> Okay. >> When I was 18. >> Okay. >> Okay. Crazy. My mom was like, "You're 18. I guess you could do this if you want, but I advise you not to." >> Um, I have huge lips already. Why did I think I need needed this? I looked Insane. I got it immediately dissolved.

>> Talk about this though because >> Sorry, you finish your >> No, no. I got it immediately dissolved and >> it was such a weight. By the way, the dissolvant is >> damaging. >> So damaging and so expensive. It's more expensive than the filler. >> Yeah, >> it's crazy. >> And if not, and again, I'm not I'm no doctor, but what I've heard is it's more damaging than the actual like filler is to your tissue. >> 100%. I still have like weird It's a disaster. I will say I know no one is going like I

I have a theory and I I feel like this is true but that like when the internet or a person on the internet like wants to believe something there's no convincing them otherwise right like I'm not going to sit here and Convince anyone that I haven't had like there's there's a whole world on the internet that thinks I've had full facial reconstruction totally >> and whatever. >> Wait do they actually I've never seen that. >> I've seen like things online for sure. >> Are you chronically online? >> No. Oh no. >> Okay, we have to

get to this. >> Not so crazy. But I'm I'm on I'm online. Like I see things, but I'm not a Finsta. >> I have a Finsta. It's old. I haven't been on it in like so long. >> Come on. Let's reboot. I'm really into the Finsta. Yeah. Yeah, we can go. >> We got to go there. Okay. Wait, keep going. Sorry. So, you're not going to convince anyone about >> Oh, yeah. I'm not I'm not here to convince anyone, >> but I'm just here to tell you the truth. >> Totally. >> Um, which is the

fact that I've never had any plastic surgery on my face. Nothing. I'm I've never had any any work done. And I told you the only thing I've done twice I've done baby Botox in my forehead. I didn't love it and I don't love it and I consider it sometimes but then I'm like my eyebrows are so straight and low to my eyes that I actually really like enjoy the movement that I have. >> Totally. >> So if anything I did it for like fine lines but um I've only done PRP >> rid of the fine

lines >> for temporarily it like goes away. Oh, what I wanted to talk about was the fact that I actually think it's really damaging what these doctors do online when when you'll I'll see videos sometimes and I can only speak for myself of course, but like I'll see videos of me and a doc a professional a licensed doctor is on Instagram or Tik Tok and they're um doing a breakdown of all the surgeries that all the work I've had done and all these things and um >> and I've seen them of other people too, of

and people that I know that have never had those things done and things like that. But what I what I want to say is that I do find it really damaging because then I think young people like you were saying you did that at 18 and And sometimes we just have curiosity and and all those things, but >> it's so it can affect young people in such an interesting way because then they see that and they're like, "Oh my god, that's not >> that's not that's what I have to do to look like that." And

then they go rush and they do something silly maybe at a young age and they don't realize that. >> Totally. I mean, we all make silly decisions at young ages and maybe things That later on we regret. And >> I don't know. I think it's a really bad it's really scary. I see those things cuz I'll watch a video and again, I can only speak for myself of someone saying something like that about me and I'm like, "Oh my god." For any like young girl that's watching this video thinking, "Oh, I'm just going to go

run and get like a nose job or I'm going to go run and get like whatever it is." >> Totally. Um, I will say the nose job Allegations I've gotten, I would believe them if I wasn't me. Like I look at old photos of me and I'm like, "Wait, it does look like I have a nose job." >> H what? >> I swear to God on everything everything that I love, I've never had a nose job. Okay, >> wait. My nose I This is a testament to what I'm trying to say is like as I

got older, I grew into my nose. Like my nose was It did look wider and it did feel Bigger on my face when I was younger. I also, and this I don't know if I'll keep because I'm just like I don't I don't even know why it would be bad, but I did Accutane for my acne and there's a theory on Tik Tok that Accutane shrinks your nose and you guys I swear to God it's true. >> I'm dead. >> I swear no one sees. >> I need to take Accutane. >> Go on I don't

It's not like a major Shift. Go on Tik Tok and look up Accutane >> and you will see people. I'm dead at this. I'm not dead because you and I look up as a hypochondric, we look up the same thing and we use Tik Tok. Do you know what I mean? Like whenever I'm feeling like a little weird, I'm like tingly feet. You know what I mean? And I look it up on Tik Tok. Like it's so it's so not that it's so not medical, but not at all. And There's too much information. You really

should ask. >> Totally. Totally. Wait, I'm dead at that. No, I have no proof that it's true except for the fact that when I saw this theory, I was like, "Oh my god, my nose got smaller." I swear. >> You have a great nose. >> Thank you. It's Yeah. >> You're like, "Thank you. It's fake." >> No. Everyone has things that they like. There's things I have definitely been Like, "That would be nice if it was, but I'm okay." >> Okay. Can I ask you something? >> I love my nose, so I'm okay with it.

>> You have a great nose. Can I ask you something? Cuz I'm looking at you being like, you're stunning and perfect and smart. >> Okay. What are challenges for you? Like what are your insecure? It doesn't need to be about your body necessarily or your Face, but like what are you what are you insecure about? >> You know what I mean? Like it's not to say that I don't have those body insecurities, insecurities about the way I look sometimes and all those things like >> I'm only human. >> Of course, >> I want to give

myself grace every day for the things that might, you know, bother me. But um I also think I'm As I get older, the less of a [ __ ] I give and also like the more I learn to like talk to myself and be like I'm good. And and I will say >> as someone who's not chronically on the internet but on it enough like it doesn't help. >> Like that's not >> the internet doesn't help. >> It does not help. And it doesn't help even in ways where if someone's like >> even when someone's

like not necessarily Talking about you, but when you're just like looking at things that might make you feel like weirdly bad about yourself. >> Totally. >> For no reason. Like really has nothing to do with you. But um but yeah, I think I go through like all the >> the normal things. >> Yeah. And and some. >> That's so nice to hear. Honestly, I feel better. >> Oh my god. Yeah. It's not >> No, but it's definitely not perfect over here. >> Good. Good. That's that's good. I mean, I wish it was for for your

sake, but for anybody. >> Totally. Totally. Haley and I were talking about this. Like, you walk outside and people are looking at you >> more than other people and there's pictures of you walking down the street like it's a crazy amount of also Self-reflection and like you're look there's a lot of things online about you and that must be tough. >> Yeah, for sure. And I think that um I've spoken about this a little bit before, but I think I think what gets pretty frustrating and again something I don't like to feed into, but there

are times that it does is like maybe like there are mean things on the internet and like someone always has something to say. Totally. And I'm not a comment scroller. Like I'm not looking at like everything that someone's saying, but like things come my way like posts or whatever. And um I think those things are never fun. And yeah, I don't >> Yeah, >> people are crazy. People are crazy. >> So silly. >> I know. I'm going to ask you something that you might want to cut. >> Ready? >> Oh, well, of course. >> Um

Kendall and I popped open a What do you say? Popped open. We opened a bottle of wine. a gorgeous bottle of red wine that I didn't know anything about, but Kendall was like, "Oh my god, this is what is it called?" >> Prisoners. >> Prisoners. This is gorgeous. >> A nice bottle. >> She's like, "This is great." Um, you might not want to talk about this and we Can cut it. Okay. >> Yeah. >> How's dating? >> Dating? I knew you were going to go here. I'm actually super in a like a me era right

now. And I know that might sound corny and like not what you wanted to hear >> or or what anyone wanted to hear, but I think >> I when I turned 29, I had like a crash Out about turning 30. >> Like I was like, whoa, >> I'm my 20s are over. I have one more year. Yeah. >> And for some reason, I crashed out harder at 29 about turning 30 than I did when I actually turned 30. >> Totally. And so at the when I turned 29, I remember kind of like saying to myself,

I do feel like I've been in and there's nothing wrong with it. I've I've had Great relationships. I've had not so great relationships, but I felt like through my 20s, I was in a lot I was in a few long-term consistent relationships like kind of near not right after the other, but like near each other. So I never really had >> my 20s to myself. And speaking on independence, so when I turned 29, I really made like a made like a minor commitment to myself where I was like, I'm not going to reject anything. I'm

Not going to like I'm going to stay open to anything that, >> you know, feels like it would suit me. But >> um I really wanted to have like a me year >> where I chose myself. And um >> again, not to say that didn't mean that people came into my life or didn't come into my like it it wasn't really about that. It was just about being like I want to have fun. I want to choose Myself. And I want to do what I want to do. And I'm a really great girlfriend. >> Wait.

And >> I can tell >> I really love to be present for my partner and I really put them first most of the time. So I think to when I turned 29, I was like, I really want to put myself first right now. >> Yeah. >> And um so that's where I'm at. To answer your question, and maybe that's the Boring answer, but >> I think that's a beautiful answer. And I think I need a little bit more me time. And actually, I'm using this time to break up with J. No, I'm joking. Um, no,

I think me time is great. I think you I I I also think that >> when you've been in relationships um back to not back to back to back sounds bad because it sounds like you're like jumping from thing to thing, but you know what I'm saying? Like when you're In a few relationships, >> you you like you need to refind yourself, you know? You need to like explore. I really, again, cheesy, but like I really wanted to fall in love with myself again. And I felt like I had a little bit more trauma from

relationships throughout my 20s than I thought I did. >> Yeah. >> And I a lot of it was coming out. I was Also going through my Saturn return. I don't know if you like get down with all of that. >> I No, I do. And I I learned that a Saturn return is very I learned that I was in it during one of the craziest times of my life. I didn't even realize what it was. Haley actually told me about it. >> Yeah, I was in my Saturn return as well and it felt like it

was never ending and >> I was really like emotionally just like What is happening? Like there's too much going on. So, um, so yeah, I'm I'm definitely a lover and like I love and I want love in return and I I'm like a big-hearted like I give my heart and it like pe like things like that really affect me. So, I really just wanted a me moment. >> I get it. When you're in a relationship, what do you like pride yourself on? What are you like, I'm good at this? I'm a fantastic like not fantastic.

I'm Fantastic, but >> I'm amazing. >> I'm a very good caretaker and I'm also really good at like making a home a home. >> Yeah, you are. Your homes are gorgeous. >> I'm very And I first of all, let me say I like to be taken care of. >> Totally. >> But I'm also very good at being the taker carer. >> Yeah. Like I I like to put things together. I like to be the one to be like, >> you know, let's set up this today or let's go do this today or I'll figure out

this or let's do this trip. I'll get it all done. Don't worry about it. Like I'm cool. I I'm really good at that and I really enjoy it. But I also really love when stuff someone steps in and is like wait like I want to do this trip. Like let me play on the weekend. Let me Do this. So I'm a little bit of both. But I also really don't mind kind of like putting the pants on for a second and being like I can do that. like all good. I got >> I love that.

That's the opposite of who I am as a person. >> Really? >> If we I if when we go to dinner, which we will. >> I'm not I can't pick the rest. I can't Do anything. >> I'll do everything. Don't >> No, but I wish I could. >> I want to do it to a task. Like, put me to the task. Like, I will set everything up. I don't mind. And I actually enjoy it. >> Well, look at your home. Sometimes I prefer it. >> Literally, look at your homes. You're like, everything is you're it's

perfect. It's literally >> I don't know what that says about me. Like maybe I'm like a neurotic control freak, but like I I really don't mind it. But again, set it up all by all means. Like if you want, great. Like I will come be a part of this. >> Totally. >> And I would love for you to treat me like a princess. Like >> Totally. >> Yes. >> But sometimes it's also not fun. It's so Fun to be treated like a princess. And then sometimes it's like, okay, I I need my own I you

know what I mean? I need a little like >> that goes back to like my independence. Totally for sure. Like >> that. But um yeah. >> Wait, >> and then there's the whole side of the internet that thinks >> I'm a lesbian. >> Yeah. >> Were you going to go there? Did you have this written down? >> That was a question that I had. >> Wait, why is that the only thing? When I was coming over, I was like talk about this. >> You're like, he's going to ask me if I'm gay. >> No, no,

no, no, no. I actually wasn't thinking that. I was like, I want to talk about it because >> you're like, he's crazy enough to ask me If I'm gay. Well, no. A lot of people think you're a secret lesbian. I know. And can you tell me why you think that? >> I actually don't know. It's It's really hardcore >> and like people >> It's kind of great, >> but people Yeah. But you want to know what really bothers me is how mean people are about it. Like it's not with like a >> It's not with

like a welcoming arm like, "Hey, like if you were like, "Yes, come join." Like, it's not kind. It's like very mean. It's very like >> what the [ __ ] are you doing? Like I understand that like coming out is not an easy thing for anybody if if not at most people. >> Yeah. >> And >> I'm not saying that that's an easy thing, but knowing I can speak for myself here and knowing myself like I Think at this point in my life I'd be out if I was. >> Totally. If you were like >>

Yes. You have love and support around you. >> Totally. Like and I'm not saying it's an easy thing. I'm just saying that knowing me and knowing how I would want to live my life, like I would be like I have like I'd have no problem being that. And I think that there's this whole narrative that like I'm hiding this Thing and I'm like, you know, it's like >> I've seen like really [ __ ] up things that are like it's bad for business and I'm like what what like how >> being gay has only helped

me. >> Like truly, >> it's my superpower. It's the reason I'm here with you today. I just I don't I don't understand it. So I that's why I was like I should I'm like what is it alls to say >> as of today I am not >> totally >> I don't think I will be but I'm not like closing doors totally do you know what I mean totally totally >> to like experiences in life >> also I think what you're really trying to say is it's not offensive that people think you are this and whatever

they're coming if they're coming at you with like hate because you are it's like what >> or because I am and not saying it like that's what's also crazy to me like >> I promise promise that like if I was I think you probably would know for real like >> Right. Right. Right. You're also you're in a you're also very you're a private person. >> Yeah. >> I feel like you're Well, no. There's Courtney, too. You guys are both private. >> Yeah. I Well, she's definitely put a lot more of her life on the show

than I Have. So, she although she is private, I do think that her life has been more on the show than mine has. Like, at least personal life stuff. But, um >> totally. You guys do feel I've met most of you all of you and you guys are very open with the way you and even if it's not to all to the public like to your friends to everyone you're super open people. >> Oh my god I've got nothing to hide. That's that's the funny part. I'm like I Truly if you knew me like I

have zero to hide. I'm just out here living my life getting my bag doing my job. That's truly gorgeous what it's all about for me. I'm like trying to have I'm trying to have like I'm trying to fulfill my child needs, my adult needs. Like I am just here to do my best. >> Totally. >> Totally. And you are? >> Yeah, I'm >> You are You're doing it. Do you want Kids? >> I do want kids. >> How many? >> And do you have names of kids that you like? >> I have a list, but

like >> are they like insane? And >> no. >> Are they Nepo baby names? >> I'm so over that. Like I think that it's kind of ridiculous the whole name situation. Like I want >> Okay, Kendall, don't be mean to me because I have a list of names that are pretty insane. >> Oh no. Well, like cross that bridge when we get there. Totally. Totally. Totally. >> I definitely have my list. It's not crazy. I actually love my baby list. My baby name list. >> Is it like is it normal? Is it like >> It's

normal. Yeah. >> I love like a good >> normal name. >> Like a beautiful normal name. Like I I'm so >> Is it going to be K? >> Take it back. No, babe. What? No. Absolutely not. >> I see. I'm the opposite. >> I want like if if my kid has a weird name, I'm like, it's going to be like a Gap model. You know what I mean? It's going to be a Napo baby. It's going to be iconic. >> But there's still like amazing. Like Walking Phoenix is an incredible name. Like, but that to

me is like it's a it's a unique name, but it's not >> the craziest name you've ever heard. >> It's not like doorbell. You know what I mean? I love the name. >> It's not like totally like, you know, there's so many good names. Brad Pitt is an incredible name. >> Amazing. >> And it's Brad. Like, that's a that's a normal name, but it's an amazing name. >> That's true, actually. But it matters with the last name. Your last name is great. >> No, I feel like mine's like >> harsh. And >> I love your

last name. I'll I'll take that. >> Okay. >> Jenner is great. My last name is Theo. >> That's a good last name. I wish my last name Chamberlain is an incredible last name. Incredible last name. I think About that because Chamberlain Coffee is a great name. >> Ch. She killed it on the name. >> K. It's her name. >> Killed it. I know. But >> it's so good. It's so good. She loves you so much. She literally loves you so much. >> She's obsessed with you. And she's like, "I'm too afraid to text Kendall." >>

Too afraid to text. >> She's like, "I'm too" But she's afraid To text everybody. She's my neighbor. >> Tell me the funniest story. So, we were at your Halloween party. Tell me everything. >> I was I don't know why I was there. I didn't even know you at this time. I crashed. >> No, stop. Always invited in her. I crashed. But I was there with Emma and we walked up to you >> and >> what did I do? >> No, you were amazing. It was us. We You were talking to us and the music was

so loud that we couldn't hear what you were saying. Okay. So, wait. So, Emma had a conversation and for some reason your voice was carrying to me but not to Emma. And you said to her, "You look amazing." And she goes, "Yes. She didn't hear it. And then you looked at me and you said, "What are you?" And I said, "No, no, no." That's because And then Emma came up to me and she's like, "You just really [ __ ] it up with Kendall." She asked you what you were and you said, "No, no, no."

And then I said, "Emma, you [ __ ] it up." She said, "You look amazing." You said, "Yes." >> And we both were standing there like, "We have to fix this." It was hilarious. >> Never. You never have to worry about that. Was me, by the way. I'm the number one awkward person at like in any conversation like out in public. There's Like this trend right now on Tik Tok that I see that I so relate to where it's like someone that's like, "Hey, how are you?" And they're like walking past someone >> in the

Tik Tok and the person's response is like >> you just like cannot get form a sentence. >> 100%. >> That's me. Like >> I'm Is that actually you? >> Yes. I become like ridiculous. Like I'm out and I'm just like I don't know why my brain doesn't work. I can't form a sentence. Like I'm completely socially out. Do you get socially anxious >> sometimes? I'd say I lean more awkward than anxious in social settings, but I can get socially anxious. Yeah, >> I really recently I feel like my brain isn't working right, which is also

my that my hypochondriac is coming in. >> But your NAD should be helping. >> Yeah. Well, it's not. I'm in the ER because of it. Love, so it's not helping. Who's your favorite sister right now? >> Oh my goodness. Um, I I I don't have a favorite, but I'd say because they're all my favorite, >> but I would say that Kylie and I always tend to like lean really close to each other because >> not only because our like we're the closest in age, but I do think that and I've said this before, but I

do think that like our families and like all of us have grown up or our families family like all the siblings have grown up in sets of twos. So like Courtney and Kim were close in age, Rob and Khloe were close in age, and then Kylie and I were close in age. >> And then also on my dad's side, like Brandon and Brody were close in age, Bert and Casey were close in age, and then Kylie and I. So >> Kylie and I have always had something a little bit >> more special in the sense

of our just like our closeness. >> And you know, we grew up in such sim we had like I think it's so Do you have a sibling? No. >> Oh, no. >> I'm an only child. >> Do you like that? >> You tell me. Am I No. Am I >> a preference, right? Like, you wouldn't know the difference. But >> I wouldn't know the difference. I I'm I say you tell me cuz I'm like, do I seem like an only child? >> I wasn't I don't really like know what only what is only child syndrome.

Like, I don't really know. >> I think it's me. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Isn't that bad? >> I I don't No, you're not bad at all. So, I don't know. >> It's like It's like we can't No, I'm good at sharing. Sharing is caring. I'm good at sharing. No, it's like it's it's >> you're you don't feel like an only child at all. It's like the opposite of you. That's what an only That's actually how I would describe it. Actually, >> I'm a middle child, so I feel like I'm like, "Nobody cares about me.

Like, it's not about me. Don't worry about me. I'll Be good. I got my own vibe." Like, >> totally. Totally. But you're also, like you said, like a caretaker. Like, >> yeah. >> Only children are kind of like pillow princess >> situation >> really. >> Yeah. I mean, not sexually, but but also sec but also very much sexually. Yeah. For me, >> no, I guess Scott's an only child. Dick. Totally. >> And I >> He's very like >> or he was at least like very You could tell he was like only like he was like

which made him the best. Amazing. >> He's really funny. >> He's so [ __ ] funny >> and just like the best and just good energy and good vibes. Um I like Only Children, I guess. I like you. I like Scott. trying to think of other only Child people in my life. >> There's a lot of there's a we we get a lot of hate. We get a lot of hate. Yeah. Because >> we can be really narcissistic and crazy >> and everything revolves around us. The whole world. Imagine growing up alone in a house

where your parents come home and all they have to tend to is you. Do you know what I mean? My mom like would look at my pinky would see a tiny like little scratch and be like, >> "You have ringorm. We're flying you to the hospital." Like that's like >> hypo course come from that. >> Yeah. But you know what I mean? It was just very much like you're the only thing that exists. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I do think having a sibling is very special in that way and and humbles you. Like >> totally

>> I've been humbled by myself. >> Does Kylie humble you? >> Yeah. I mean like we would humble each other. We would fight all the time and just like >> do you still fight >> the No, not really. Like we had like one really bad fight. It was actually on our show in like 2020. I remember it was like right before COVID hit. That's like the That was a long time since our last one before that and then like it hasn't been one since. We don't fight, but like You know we know how to get

each under each other's skin. So I'd say like once a month like she'll send me a text where I'm like >> or like vice versa. Like I'm sure she gets annoyed with me all the time too. >> But >> totally. >> Um but that's like so that's nothing. And then like 20 minutes later she's like what are you doing for dinner? I'm like oh let's go. Whatever. >> Right. Let's hang. Yeah, >> that's so cute. >> I love her. But um >> isn't it crazy like running into your sibling at a at an event? >>

Yeah. >> Have you ever been in a fight with your sibling at an event? >> I mean, like there's been times where I'm like, you're not my favorite person in the world right now. >> Yeah. >> But like, hi, we're here. >> That is crazy. >> But it's never like a fight. Like I swear I'm just like not looking for any drama. Like I really don't want to be a part of it. I don't want to be the cause of it. I don't want to be in it. I just like leave me out of it.

so good. >> Leave me out. I have enough that I'm like stressed about. >> I get it. I love I don't like being in drama. I don't like fighting. I hate it. I think it's horrible. But I love hearing about it. >> I don't like weird vibes. Yeah. Hearing about it is fun when it's not your problem. I think that's why shows >> like like the the really gnarly like reality dating shows or like Secret Lives of Mormon Wives or The Bachelor or like all >> The Golden Bachelor. >> Yeah. Like anything with a little

bit of drama in it, you're like watching. You're like, "Okay." Or like Selling Sunset. Like I watch him. >> Is that what you're What are you watching? Like Kendall goes home and watches what? >> Right now I'm watching Land Man. I just started it. >> I need to watch this. >> I'm a huge Yellowstone fan. So like I know it's not a Yellowstone spin-off, but it's it's Taylor Sheridan. So I was like, "Sign me up." >> Totally. >> Um I'm watching Land Man. I'm watching Puribbus. Have you watched this? >> No. These are all shows

I need to get into. >> Yeah. Did you watch Beast in Me? >> I'm on the sixth episode. I am obsessed. Britney Snow was on the podcast. Britney, I'm obsessed with you. I am obsessed with that show. >> Beast in Me is amazing. >> I'm obsessed. >> I like went through a week. I mean, >> unbelievable. We can't You can't get better. >> I'm obsessed with her. >> You literally can't get better. >> She's amazing. >> Like, I believe it. Like, I'm like, you are this person. This is amazing. >> That's acting is ultimately. Would

you ever act I would never say no, but I'm not like Out here like, you know, I didn't go to school for >> What's your dream acting role? >> Oh my goodness. I I >> Would you be in like a comedy? >> Like I think comedy's hard like to be >> It'll be fun. >> Funny like within like a script sounds hard. >> No, it is hard. But >> it is hard, but anything. >> I think acting's hard. Like I think Acting like >> people like that are good at it are extremely talented people. But

um >> Okay. What else are you watching? >> Oh yeah. >> The Beast in Me. >> I finished The Beast in Me. I loved it. >> I have to finish it. >> You have to finish this. So excited. >> But yeah, I'm currently watching Pluribbus, but it's um it's weekly. Like it comes out weekly. So while I wait for It, I watch Land Man because I'm behind and I I think there's a second season out now, but I just started season one. So, >> do you go home and watch TV? Like, what is you're you're

going, Kendall's going home, she parks her car, she walks inside. What do you do? >> Um, if it's like end of day after work, I'm probably like having some food and turning on a show. >> Great. Land man. >> Very simple. And right now it's Plurivous and Land Man. >> And what And then what's your night routine? You get into bed, you What do you do? You make tea. >> I'm a shower before bed. I'm not a morning shower person. Neither am I. >> I think it's disgusting. Disgusting. Like, >> it's weird, you guys. Wait,

I think it's freaking weird. >> It's weird. Like, you're going to get in The bed with all that like day all over you. >> Ew. Like, wash your feet, you freaks. Do you know what I mean? >> Also, like for like people with long hair, too. I'm like all the like well I don't wash my hair every day but definitely if I'm out in the world all day and it feels like I was like you know germs and whatever I got to like I got to wash my hair completely like full body full shower like

scrub me down >> 100%. So, I shower and I do my like skin care and then I get in bed, smoke a Jay sometimes, >> delish, >> and then like watch something funny like I really want to like letting loose to me and and like bringing down my cortisol levels is like smoking a Jay or having a glass of wine aka >> of course >> and and then like turning on a show and like laughing. >> I love that. And sometimes that is like a Tik Tok scroll and getting a good laugh out of it.

>> So I was going to ask you and you just went there for me. Um are you like hyperfixated on anything like Tik Tok? What? Like what's your algorithm? >> I mean we can like look >> what Wait obsessed. Yeah, let's look. >> I think it's mostly like I'd say and we can see if I'm wrong. I'd say it's mostly like Funny random [ __ ] I'm like really weird. Like I like this [ __ ] just like I like this song with her [ __ ] >> Wait, wait, wait. I'm actually dead. Kendall is

Kendall liked this Tik Tok of a woman flying through the air. Just that's it. I'm like, wait, what is that? Okay, so you like like cute, funny >> Yes. And then I have a lot of like, you know, like >> interior design. >> Interiors. Like >> what are you obsessed with interior designwise? I mean, I just saw your mountain house, obviously. >> Yeah. Um, I'm obsessed with like everything. Like I can show you my Pinterest boards, but I think that that house specifically was really fun for me because it's something I would never do in

any other location. Like it was really truly an experimental like >> house for me. >> Yeah. >> Um, and I really wanted to like push myself and I wanted to see what I like and what I don't like and um, it was really fun. But I think that um I'm like it's similar to like my music taste, my interior design taste, and also sometimes my clothing taste. It can be >> a lot of things. I think that's what's so fun about like creativity and like diving into it and learning about yourself and what you like

and what you Don't like is that >> you do not have to put yourself in a box. And >> my taste is very broad. Like I like a lot of things from a lot of different genres. >> Yeah. >> Um and that's why I bring up music too because like my music taste is not limited. >> What are you listening to? >> I listen to a lot of um A lot of singer songwriter and a lot of country mostly. >> Country. >> My rap was like this like newer country artist. His name is Joshua Sloan

and he like just dropped an album but he was like kind of getting some attention on TikTok for a while and I think within the music industry especially like in Nashville and like in country I think he like was a little bit known. >> Got it. >> Um and then he just dropped an album. So like my number one >> on my Apple Music was him >> replay was his album and it came out like two months ago or something. Two or three months ago. >> So you listen every day? >> Oh like all day.

Like I love >> Is it sad? A. Yeah, it can be. Like the lyrics are sad, but it's like beautiful music. It's like catchy and >> Oh my god. And you're playing it through The house. >> I just like love it so much. >> I love that. I love that. >> Um, country makes me like the happiest. Like I really love it. But I really >> Well, that's why probably you love a Sabrina album, too, because it feels like it has that twang. It's still pop. It's pop, but it's twangy and like >> Yeah, I

love the Sabrina album >> the best. >> I'm trying to think of like what else I Listen. I mean, I listen to like some definitely like I love like sad music, too. Like I love to dive into a sad. >> So do I. I'm diving in. I love that. >> Rap right now is like not doing it for me. I like love rap. I do. I love the genre and when it's great, it's great, but like everything is sounding really repetitive to me. So I'm like, >> show up. I'm clear. Look at my wall. There's

not one rapper on the wall. Um but yeah, it's never really done it for Me. But I'm If you can show me a good rap album, I'll be there. The Kendrick album was great, >> great, great, great, great. >> Like I I love Kendrick and people who are Tyler's album I think is amazing. Like I think there's like people that are really pushing boundaries and like being >> like there's a lot of intention. >> Yeah, totally. >> Totally. That's amazing. I My my rap is Very sad. It's all pop girls. >> Really? >> Like five

pop girls. >> Stop. Like who? So, Sabrina, obviously, >> Sabrina, honestly, Brandy was on my wrapped. >> Really? Yeah. Amazing. >> Brandy was on my wrapped, but I like old. I mean, I I'm a I'm also I love like throwbacks, as you could see. Like, I love Mariah and Brandy. And >> of course, >> um before the podcast started, Kendall was telling me that she used to hang out with Brandy because her sisters were best friends. >> Yeah, they were. I think Khloe was her assistant. I could be getting this wrong, but Khloe was her

assistant, so we were around her all the time. But um but yeah, that was >> I love that. >> That was the best. And then Cinderella was my favorite movie. >> It's the best with Whitney. >> The best. Okay, I have two more questions for you and then we're done. We've been going for an hour. >> Okay. >> Isn't this crazy? >> I You act like I'm rushing out of here. >> You're really not in 30 minutes. >> Okay. Um so I'm going to ask you a question I asked Haley and then I'll ask you

the main question. Yes. Yes. What would you bring to a desert island >> other than like don't bring people? >> Mhm. >> Haley said a tarp. I was like, "No, dude. I didn't mean it like that." >> Yeah. >> She's like, she like wanted to escape the island. I'm like, "No, what?" >> But also, a tarp? What's that going to do for you? >> She's like, "It would give me shelter." >> God bless. God bless, >> Haley. >> Um, >> she literally That was her answer. A tar. >> Listen, I don't think a tarp is

useless. >> No, it's useful. It's just insane. I'm sorry. It's insane. I'm like I'm I might go useful as well, but >> Oh, no. >> Don't say like >> Oh, >> you're gonna say like a lighter. >> No, I was going to say like a knife, but I don't even think that I'm trying to think of what will get me the most use cuz I can make a knifeish like with a you know with like with a rock. Like you can make it sharp. >> Oh my god. This is like Survivor. Would you go on

Survivor with me? Would you? you and I on Amazing Race. I'm I'm pitching it. I'm literally calling the producers. That would be iconic. >> We don't really know much about Amazing Race. >> Like we would try to like we would like I don't know what it is actually. >> It's a race and it's amazing. >> It's a race around the world. >> Oh, that's cool. I'm like, by the way, I'm like an I want adventure. Like I like spontaneity. I like adventure. >> Would you go on a random trip if I asked you to? >>

What? No doubt about it. 100%. Sign me up. Where's your next place you would go to? Where's somewhere you've been dying to go? >> I would like to go I really do enjoy history and like I know this is maybe like a everybody says this thing, but I'd really actually like to go to Egypt. I'd like to see the pyramids. Like I'd like to There's also like really beautiful places in like Jordan and like so much stuff that I see that like I know my friends have done and they've told me so many amazing things.

New Zealand is like another place I'd really love to thoroughly explore. >> Yeah. No, but it's g I'll go there with you. >> Yeah, it's gorgeous. And like my friend just went last summer and did this like insane experience and like went to the craziest most beautiful places and had you know the proper setup and like people that you know told them >> where to go and what >> where to go and what you're supposed to do should see >> and locals. You need to like Yes. You can't do the tourist thing. You know what

I mean? You need to like >> do the real >> I'm a homebody who loves to travel. So I want sign me up. I want to see something new. I want to be able to like >> experience all the different things. So, there's so many I feel like more places like I I really wanted to go to um uh Yoseite. Like I always see things about how gorgeous it is. I've had friends tell me like it's so beautiful, whatever. And >> I literally said I'm going tomorrow. >> Did you go? >> I went the next

day by myself and I stayed in a in a little lux campsite. Just did my own thing. It was the most beautiful thing ever. >> Impressed by you. >> Yeah. It's like you I encourage FaceTiming people all the time. >> No, phone's in my backpack. I pull it out for pictures. That's what I'll do. Like I'll pull it out. By the way, there's like not a lot of service in there either. So, it's not like you can like >> Kendall, I have chills. I have body chills. I want to do this. >> You should absolutely.

It's the best. Like some of the nicest times I've had are when I Or even Something as small as like I'll be like, "Oh, I want to go to dinner tonight." I'll text like three or four friends and maybe they're all busy. I'm like, "But why shouldn't I still go to I wanted to go to dinner tonight. Why shouldn't I still go to dinner?" >> So, do you do that? >> Yeah. So, I'll just go to dinner or lunch or something. I'll just go to lunch by myself or dinner by myself if no one else

is available. >> I'm obsessed with you. >> But there are challenges, too, because it is uncomfortable sometimes. It's not like >> But I like that. I'm like, why wouldn't I? I like putting myself through those experiences and being like, it's fine that I'm sitting here by myself. Like, this feels good and like I wanted to come, so why would I stop myself? And >> oh, see that I need to learn. I need to take a a page out of your book. >> Yeah, >> I need to >> I I recommend. >> Okay, I ask everyone

this on this podcast. Are you ready? >> Yes. >> Okay. What is your big dream? And it doesn't have to be like for you. It doesn't I mean, it can be, but it could also be for society. Like, >> oh my gosh, >> I know. >> Well, yes, I have a lot of big dreams for society, but that you just >> I know it's >> you just set me up for like if I say anything about myself, >> I'm screwed. You should say something about yourself. You should. >> Um, >> well, I have definitely tons

of dreams for society. Obviously, like world peace is probably the biggest one. >> Literally. Literally, literally. >> Um, but I'm trying to I mean, I have a ton of dreams for myself obviously like there's personal ones, which is like a beautiful family and things like that. >> I love that. um and being in like be a beautiful relationship with a lot of understanding and love and all those things. >> Um >> but I think overall like I really want I think to make this is going to sound cheesy. I do want to make like little

me very proud and fulfill the things that I know she would love to fulfill. and whether she knew it or not, like where she ended up, I want her to be like proud of that. So, I think my dreams all consist within that like realm. >> Um, and so I'm a hard worker and I really like my job and I want to continue to like grow that and just be Like really happy with what I create. >> What? I didn't even ask you about 818. This is crazy. But, um, >> okay. >> That's beautiful. I

love that. >> Yeah. So, >> that's beautiful. My big dream for the day, because I have to do daily dreams because I do this so often. I love that. >> My big dream for the day is to normalize like having fun alone like what you're Saying like going to dinner alone, but also like the other day I put on Christmas music here at the house and I was dancing. I fully was dancing. No, it was like embarrassing. Like, but it's like you have to do it. >> That will heal you. I'm not 100% 100%. >>

I have those days where I will literally, like, as silly as this might sound, I will turn on a song that I [ __ ] love and I will watch myself dance in the Mirror and I'm just like loving. Like sometimes you just have to remind yourself that you love yourself. Like you have to be like, I'm awesome and I look so cute right now and I'm dancing in the mirror and I'm perfect. >> You know what? The best time to do that is is actually when you feel the worst. >> Yes. >> No, but

you know what I mean? Like we have to like >> make the most of it. >> Well, of course you have to make the most of it. Um, okay. We have to go now. So, now >> you put on this. >> Okay. >> Kendall, thank you for coming on. >> Thanks for having me. >> You're the best in the world. You're so kind and cool and pretty and nice and talented. Congrats on everything. Congrats. Okay. We look in this main camera. >> Oh, yeah. >> And we just say, "Good night. I love you." on three.

>> Okay. >> Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. >> 3 2 1. Good night. I love you, >> Kendall. Jenner in your dreams. Good night, Owen Theal.