Workshop 1 (Healing Life's Hurts 2004) John Sandford, Paula Sandford

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name full and true CU it's all the time to worship you [Music] to Worship [Music] You time there's a Time For Peace and a time for War there's a time to R and A Time To Men was torn there's a time to fight for for good and a time for Lov Embrace for a season we make sacrifice for the sake of brigher day but it's always the time for Time To Worship You Jesus and it's all time to give our thanks to you we will praise your name Jesus faithful and True cuz it's a Time

To Worship A Time To Worship You Hallelujah all time to give our praise to you we will praise your name Jesus faithful and true CU it's all the time to worship you there are many things many things in these troubl times that could fill us with Distress but when our eyes are on you Jesus then our hearts remain at rest well there are many things in these troubl times could fill us with distress but when our eyes are on you Jesus then our hearts remain at rest then our hearts remain and rest in you Jesus

you keep us in your [Music] love we take every thought captive making in obedient to Christ we have peace that passes understanding in the shadow of your wing we sing a praise Hallelujah huah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah Glory hly Hallelujah Glory Hol holy holy holy holy holy holy Lord holy holy glory to your name glory to your name [Music] [Applause] [Music] Jesus there's a time to laugh and a time to cry there's a time to mourn and a time to shout for Joy oh yes there's a time to shout for [Music] Joy there the time he

shout for Joy To The Lord the King of Kings the mighty warrior time he shout for Jo hey but it's All the time to worship you hey hey and it's all time to give all thanks to you we praise your name Jesus faithful and true cuz it's all Always A Time To Worship all the time we worship you and it's all time to give our thanks to you we will praise your name Jesus faithful and true CU It's the time to worship you always to to worship you always the time to Worship You Jesus oh

we worship you Jesus time to worship you always the time to worship you [Music] [Applause] you know I think we need to do that shout part again oh I know this isn't a worship Seminar here but you know we we don't shout because God is deaf or because demons are de we shout because uh it's an expression that costs us some energy and it's a it's an expression of praise to God and the uh David said it breaks the heavy Yol you remember that song by Heaven CR it breaks the heavy Yol it breaks the

heavy Y when you shout you Shout to the Lord we're not going to sing about shouting we're going to do it there are many there are many things in these troubled times that can fill us with distress right but when Our Eyes Are Fixed On Jesus then our hearts can remain at rest that's the truth and a way to make your place your body in that position of Praise before God is to shout to him and dance before for him and all those things to clap and uh exert oursel in Expressions of Praise I I

want to speak to just as one who knows if you suffer from depression here praise your way out praise your way out fight you know it may feel it it may feel like you're fighting for every step but do it anyway and God will always meet you in Praise amen is that okay you ready to showout it [Music] now there are many things in these Troubled times that could fill us with distress but when our eyes are on you Jesus then our hearts remain and fresh [Music] there's a time to laugh and a time to

cry there's a time to mourn and a time to shout for Joy hey there's a time to shout for joy [Applause] time to shout for Joy To The [Music] Lord there the time to shout for sure [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] but it's all the time to worship you hey and it's all time to give our thanks to you we will Praise your name Jesus faithful and true cuz it's all a Time To Worship all is your time to worship [Music] you and it's all is the time to give our thanks to you we will

praise the name Jesus faithful and true all always the time to worship you it's always the time to Worship You lifting up our voices Oh It's Time To Worship You day and night night and day before your Throne May Worship You We join with the angels always the time to worship you [Applause] thank you Lord thank you for your precious promises God that you inhabit the Praises of your people and it's our Delight to give you praise God because we long for your presence [Music] Oh we cry for more God Jesus Jesus how I trust

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to trust you More oh for Grace to trust you more father thank you for that wonderful peace that comes thank you that you're the Prince of Peace and we welcome that to come right now father would you just reside where this stress or this turmoil where there's any heaviness we welcome your wonderful Holy Spirit to come and to know that we can absolutely depend on you you are a loving Father always thinking of us counted our hair again today we bless you father amen good you may be seated I wanted to introduce you to jto

Lima jel is one of the men in my uh leader cell group and he oversees about uh four or five other cells so that makes him a pastor of about over 50 people or so and uh he's originally from Brazil and I had the pleasure of officiating at his wedding two years ago And so he's a happily married man not not not because I officiated but because he has a good wife so he's going to lead us for a couple minutes and then we're going to give some directions about the workshop wow Hallelujah um I

want to thank you the the worship here because they lead us into the presence of the Lord and where is the presence of the Lord of Freedom um last night when when Paul uh John and Paul um spoke after uh Steve Asked to to divide in in in groups um I stay in a seat with my with my wife and and we start to pray one another and um and my wife prayed for me and and and and I prayed for her and and they said well I don't feel you know I have to uh

nothing to repent or right now uh regard father or mother issues and uh and my wife said um I just get a word here hey about leftover and when she said the word left over I just saw this picture when I was A uh kid I grew up my my father in in Brazil I grew up he used to uh take care of business of those Rich politician Brazil and and all those people on and off and and at our place and um when they used to to come at my place and just spend a

week two weeks deal with with with business with my father um they serve the the dinner or or or lunch and um the you know myself a kid you know and and and my brother and we're not Allowed to to sit on a table with them and and uh and I remember I just saw myself um different times crying because I want to you know kid when you see good food you want to eat you know you cannot just watch somebody eat and and you stay there and uh and and and I never thought that

have any effect on my life you know anything to do with that and um when my my wife said that the Lord spoke to me and and he said well You are son you are son right now you are son you you you are not slave you Slave at the time uh that their Master used to eat and then whatever left over they serve to them and he said no you are son you can come in you can partake of the table that I have for you and uh and I said why Lord you know

why and and and he showed me that I was a uh a generation back on my family that was uh Was a slave back then and I think was hanging on me and and I and and and when he said I am son I just I am son and I don't have to I I don't have to take the leftover anymore I can sit down on a table with him and partake of the banquet that he have for me and and and I believe and I believe that uh I was decent to worship and I

sense that I have a a tremendous anointing here this This day for for for sunship so that we can enter the sunship and and and partake of that with the Lord so I I praise the Lord for that praising him for that um yeah if if anybody wants to stand up and and receive a prayer we go pray for for sunship those can have been fill themselves out they can't stand up let's pray for that Lord Jesus we thank you Father thank you father for your your your your grace for your love that You have

for your your sons and daughter father Lord just give each one a a revelation that if they feel not connect it is not because you intend them to be your desire for them it is for them to walk into a burn and a son and father relationship and come in and partaker all that the father have for each one of you I bless you and I welcome you come in the father have a Big banquet for you amen um let's uh I want to introduce the the speakers for this this afternoon we have a uh

for all the the the workshop um we have the workshop number uh uh number one OB auditor with John and and and Paula I want to invite them to come up here in in 30 second and and and say what the the topic of the group the The the the section uh yeah so we can gain time uh also uh Dr grola will be uh a school of ministry uh also the workshop three tiisha frost on the fire hall and a work workshop for um back Auditorium uh Pastor Steve long and and um we Walker

and The soaking in the upper room with Jeremy uh the soaking everybody Everybody know just L down on the floor and and and and and let the Holy Spirit just come and and breathe on you and and and have a heart to heart with the father uh let's start from here we've been asked to talk about hurts that come from sexual issues and uh we're not going to be talking about what you normally think about first thing molestation or sexual abuse rather about the common experiences that happen through life that leave woundings in us That

prevent a normal healthy wholesome sexual life and uh we're going to be stopping to pray after each segment we to go all the way up through life deal with prenatal wounding and then early wounding and then 6 to 12 and non-ups your life and each time we'll stop and pray for healing about issues that may be in your life having to do with woundings that came because of sexual issues and he's going to talk about curses tonight that's tonight oh that's Tonight we you going to talk about tell about that yet can I go ahead

and do the next one see uh we're talking about rejection now I realize that none of you have a problem with rejection you're here because you know you have a friend who does and that you want to help them and you want to get tools to go and help your messed up friends so this seminar is for all of you who have friends who are struggling with problems of rejection and we hope To give you tools so that you can spot rejection in all your friends and relatives it's very good at Christmas time and when

you have to be with them so we're going to talk about how wounds of rejection start and how they're maintained how it messes up marriage and we'll tell you how it messed up our marriage my wife is actually here but she's not coming to the seminar and and then we'll pray and uh Show you how to pray to be healed from rejection and you realize if you don't come to his seminar he's going to feel rejected well we're not even allowed to be in this building neither am I I think I want to go to

his seminar back in 1991 when this church was experien in the beginnings of the Toronto blessing I was experiencing Trisha burnout again for the third time you Would think that I had learned something from the other pre two previous experiences but you see I'm a giver by nature and I have my identity rooted in receiving Love by what I can do do now I marry a man that's a type A driven personality and as long as I can perform and and now he's motivated by I need to be needed so as long as I can

perform for him and I can do everything to make him look good in Ministry I receive all the love and everything I need right Wrong I burn myself out and that's usually the problem with givers and then all of a sudden life's not fun for me anymore Ministry is not fun for me anymore and nobody will let me talk about that I'm not having any fun anymore but my husband is ministering to the whole world he's pouring his life into the whole world and here his wife's at home and she's burning out in Ministry and

doesn't want to be a Ministry anymore so my goal in this Seminar is to give you just some practical things on how to identify burnout I'm not here to give you a message I'm not trying to deliver you from the dealings of God and in your life either cuz there are dealings of God I just want to help you identify what burnout is to begin to recognize its early warning signs and then hopefully just pray pray with you while you're going through this process it always helps to have someone that's been There done that how

many of you are a chip of the old block some of you might when to say you're a chip off the old block head but you've forgiven your father haven't you how many of you have met my dad well if you've met me you've met my dad I'm a chip off the old block but I'm the new improved healed and hold Mr Walker we want to talk about generational sins and curses one of the Strate strategies and schemes I believe of the enemy is to disconnect us from our past and to make us believe that

the past what our forefathers did doesn't matter to us us but it does the sins of the fathers are visited onto the children unto the third and fourth generation so the blessings but what you might be experiencing May well be because of what Your forefathers did and we want to minister into that and see freedom from those things that are over you or that you have entered into because of the sins and the curses that have come down your generational line very good all right I'd like you to take the back of your notebook so

you can find exactly where you're going and if you would like to be with the sanfords you just stay right here and we'll be giving you some instructions in just a Moment everyone who's not staying for the sanfords you need to leave something on your chair don't you so that the people coming in tonight don't assume that that's an empty chair so leave something on your chair when you're going and uh Will Walker and myself we're going to be the back over here you can go through the side over here don't go anywhere yet folks

uh Trisha Frost is in the fire hall which is the red uh part on your on your map right across The parking lot so you go up this door here and just go straight across and you'll see a uh tin that's not a tin foil but it's a um what do you call it it's it's a it's a warehouse connected to the two-story brick building and so that's where the fire hall is and those are the that are going to Grant session uh you're going up the street it's about a 3 minute walk 2 to

3 minute walk depending on how fast you go please use the crosswalk and that's where it says s OAB and that's the school ad Ministry building so those of you that are going there and if you'd like to lay on the floor and have Jeremy just lead quiet worship over you Ministry team walking out and pray for you you're going to go upstairs okay everyone's going to leave something on their chair correct you are dismissed you are dismissed come on their chair back there come forward those back E e if if you want to move

to the front make sure you uh put some something in your seat so you can have a seat for tonight's section so you can move and and let's let's fill those seats on the friend [Music] here you you want to oh okay okay you can come and we go introduce um John and Paula they don't need Introdu so God blessed them two M two mics you know Grant said that anybody who came to his of course they didn't have rejection sympoms I should have said that anybody wants to come to hear about sexual problems doesn't

mean you have the sexual problems so keep coming forward and if you move in we want to teach informally and uh we want to be able to to answer questions at any point I'm Also stalling while people are still coming in and getting situated and the further into the center you can move the better if we say something and you didn't hear it raise a hand and we'll repeat it for you if we say something and you wish you hadn't raise a hand we'll hit you with it again and uh but the main point is

we're going to be talking about some issues that are controversial and some that are A little difficult or touchy and uh if what we say rankles or you don't know if we should have said that ask a question so it can clarify don't just let it simmer down in there but just ask a question sometimes the Holy Spirit takes us where he wants us rather than where we thought we were going so good well I think we'll begin there's still people coming you can't see what's happening back there there's still people coming forward Let's begin

with prayer Lord we thank you for this day in which you are taking the church as you took Copus and the other disciple on a walk to emaus and you're opening the word of God to us and showing us what was always there we thank you for this time of revelation we thank you for the Wonder of your love we thank you for giving us birth and second birth in this time in which you are Raising that sleeping giant that the church has been scattered in the dry bones of Ezekiel 37 and you're raising us

now and equipping us you're putting muscles skin on us and you are equipping us to become the great Army of the end time I thank you that we have now freedom to talk about things that used to be taboo as we would talk today about some things that are delicate Grant to Paul and the grace and to all of us ability To just be frank and open and honest and real with each other and Lord I pray for your healing power to be honest so that as we talk about these things and you bring to

light things that are hidden in the heart healing may already begin to happen that your touch of love may fill our hearts your forgiveness your healing your Redemption your transformation of everything in our history from degradation to Glory from shame to Joy and freedom oh we just thank you Lord For this time amen now as I said in the introductory remarks uh when you think about talking about wounding from sexual issues the first thing you think about is sexual molestation and physical abuse sexually and uh that is a whole subject in itself which it's been

the whole time on that but we have not been asked to teach on that and don't feel led to if you want to hear more about that you can order it From Elijah house and there's so many good books and tapes and Paula has written a book healing victims of sexual abuse uh but we're not going to be dealing with that in this session what we will be dealing with is the common experiences of life and how in those common experiences of life we can become wounded and that can then affect us the rest of

our life it'll affect our marriages it'll affect our sexual abilities and so on and uh we reveal These in order to bring about healing and in the first part I'm going to be talking about the wounding that can happen that will affect us sexually prenatally now I need to just ask you are there some here who are not aware that we are aware and experience prenatally are there some to whom that would be new you're not used to thinking in those terms we don't have time to explain that whole thing uh there are many books

on The subject now but suffice it to say that we have a mind in our spirit before we have a brain and that in the mind of our personal Spirit we can experience react rightly and wrongly to what we perceive is happening around us happening in the womb happening in our parents happening in our family happening in the world so that we can come out of the womb already wounded already disposed in certain directions Which may be wrong for us and so that's what I'm going to be starting with is the prenatal and more and

more we see how important that is now we need to understand another thing as we begin there are two sides to Healing there is a side of carigma or faith or power and sometimes if you just have faith and just enough Faith Miracle happening healing Happens but sometimes you can have all the faith and Power in the world and nothing happens because you needed the other side which is Sophia or nois which wisdom or knowledge sometimes you have to have the right key of knowledge and if you don't have the right key of knowledge you

can pray yourself blue in the face and nothing happens because it required that bit of knowledge this is why the Lord says that in the last days he wants people to worship Him in spirit And in truth there's no saying that if you have only the spirit you can blow up but if you have the spirit and the word you grow up so we need both knowledge and wisdom and the whole ho spirit and sometimes you can have all the right knowledge and nothing happens because you didn't have enough Faith what God wants to raise

up today is a people who are people of faith and knowledge and Wisdom put the two together so that things can happen in a good and glorious way and I'm saying that for you to understand why we need to sometimes use Gifts of knowledge or the history of the family to find out what has affected us prenatally how it affected Us and how to get it healed now let me just uh give you some examples but first let me say if a father and a mother have a good life together a good prayer life good

understanding they're United and their Love play is Holy and clean and good that brings no harmful effect to children in the womb we found that people who have been raised by parents who had it together they don't have imbalances and hurts and wounding prenatally from what their parents did in making love to each other while they were in the womb but if the parents are don't have it together are fighting or committing lust with one another do you Know that you can commit lust with with your own spouse if you use the other person for

your gratification without respect to cherish the other for the other's sake you're committing lust with your own spouse and when that has happened that can wound a child in the womb now I'll just give you some examples so you'll know what we're talking about there was a woman who came to me for counseling she had five Children and a husband and she said her problem was was that every time her husband makes love to her she feels unclean now also I need to say in the beginning that we are going to be talking about sexual

issues that are delicate about we we want to ask you to give us the grace to speak frankly about sexual issues we're we're mature here and we can do this okay she felt unclean when her husband made love to her so I asked the usual questions and About the mother and the father and she had pretty good mother and father and uh I asked had she been exposed to pornography no was her husband no and I got stumped it was early on in our ministry and I didn't see it the Holy Spirit reveals it to

her she had a dream in which she was in the womb and in the womb she heard her father talking with great Joy about the boy he was going to have and that wounded her because she was be for being formed as a girl so she Had tried in every way to be her daddy's boy and what made her feel unclean in sex was that when her husband made love to her to her it was wrong because she was supposed to be the man making love to the woman this is why she felt unclean then

I understood I should have seen at the beginning she always wore a Manish haircut never put on lipstick she walked with a Brisk man's step and she wore rough clothing and Jeans whenever she could anybody should have seen that but this was early on and uh so then I prayed I said Lord will you come to this girl in the womb and just say to her I didn't send you to be a boy I lift off the lie that you should have been a man I sent you to to be the lovely woman you are

and I set you free to be female and then after the prayer I said now honey I want you to go blow blow your husband's Budget I want you to go get a haird I want you to get something really feminine to wear and then come back next week she came back and she had a quaffer she had her face on she had a frilly thing down to there and long sweeping dress and she walked into that room like a woman I said honey I want you to go home and practice on your husband she

was healed but from that we have found that there are many many Times that people are born to parents who want the opposite sex they know that becomes very wounding and from that you may get a tomboyish girl or an feminite man it is one of the primary causes not the only but one of the primary causes of homosexuality and this I'm going to spend a little time here I didn't plan to do that but I talked to some people I think it's rather important there are some people who Think I was created to be

homosexual or I was created to be lesbiian because that's the way I've always felt and when they find finally gave into it it seemed so right to them it convinced them God had created that way I want you to understand several things here first God has never created anybody to be homosexual or lesbian he creates as male and female created he them he hates it he doesn't hate the lesbian or the homosexual he Loves them he hates what is destroying them and what has happened is we are created the Bible says we were created male

and female created he them every person is is bipolar in that sense every person is has two poles in him the male and the female a man manifests mainly in the male pole of his being and seeks the woman to express that half of him that he can't this is why husbands like to watch their wives move about the house Likes to watch the wife undressed not because they're dirty old men but because seeing the female fulfills them it's half of them and the woman manifests mainly in a female polar being and seeks the man

to express that half she can't express this is why she likes to watch him because she's drinking expression of that half of her but here's what happens when the parents desperately want the other other sex and the child In the womb knows it then the child can desperately try to be the other sex and what that does is to cross the poles now the man is trying to manifest in the female pole of his being and then seeks a man to fulfill him when he finds a man to fulfill him he concludes I was created

to be homosexual no he just got confused in the womb before he ever got to Earth before he ever got to live same thing with a woman and Po's Acrossed and now she's trying to manifest in the veil pole of her being and seeking the woman to fulfill her next thing there is a lie which has been sold by Satan to homosexual and gay people that there is no healing for it once a homosexual always homosexual that you were created to be that way so relax and accept it and be who you are that's a

lie I want you to know not as a matter of bragging but as a matter of Testimony the Lord has given Paula and me major clues for setting homosexual and lesbiian people free who really want to get free of it and for every homosexual and lesbiian who's who's come wanting to be free we have a 100% success Rachel yeah what do you do you find out what are the root causes quite often it's a it's a sensitive boy being raised by a brutal father he can't accept the male role so Fleas to the female side

of his being quite often it starts prenatally sometimes it's generational but when you have found out all or it's with a smothering mother so he doesn't want to relate to the mother and so on or a girl who flees from the man there's all kinds of causes but when you found out the causes in the life and you do inner healing about those then it is time to pray about the poles and the Lord said I want you to see me reach in take hold of Those crossed poles and set them straight we've done that

a man came to me he' had 50 homosexual Encounters in the month before he came I prayed with him one time 10 years later he wrote me a letter and said I am still straight I have a wife and two children and I have no desires for a man because now his poles were set straight inside we've seen this happen again and again and again and again and I'm I'm stressing this to you because we as Christians we need to stand against Satan's lies and Satan has sung this song to people today and this is

why the homosexual and G Rights Movement trumpets it you know we want to be free to be who we are but it's all delusion there are causes for it that can be healed and they can be healed okay now there are many other inner things that can happen uh for instance we've ministered to Many who were born through a mother who felt that sex was unan she would give herself to her husband because of Duty but she never enjoyed it never had a climax and now the child she bore experienced that in the womb experienced

her feelings in the womb and so we ministered to women who thought they were frigid but it was really because they had invibed what was in the mother while they were in the womb Ministered to one woman who had a tremendous fear of of the male organ when her husband would be erect she was terrified when we tracked out the history we found that her father had not known how to meet his wife in Love play there was no foreplay he would simply throw her on the bed and rape her and so here was this

sharp object coming down towards her doile in the womb and her mother screaming in pain because she was being Raped so then she came through life with fear of the male organ how do you heal it you pray about that whole experience that happened in the womb and enable her to forgive her father for raping the mother pray for the whole experience to be healed and what you have to do also this builds a track of expectation uh uh right into the nervous system and you have to pray for that track of Association to be

broken there Was a woman who had this experience and we prayed for her and I explained to her now the next time your husband approaches you may you may have some of these old feelings if you give into them you give them power again and you do away with your prayer and all you have to do is say Lord I don't accept this this was healed this is just an old Echo Satan wants to throw this old thing back on me and see if I'll accept it I don't accept it I open myself to my

husband This woman recorded that she did and she has now her she and her husband have a wonderful relationship but she had to stand in her healing after this was prayed so that she was free uh we ministered to some the father was addicted to porn he was into the pornographic movies and pornographic books he brought the magazines into the house and he was in to this while the child was carried in the womb the child came out of the womb with a spirit of Lust because it would came right through the father into the

child while the child was in the womb and as soon as the child could he was doing more than the usual exploration of his own genitalia uh as soon as he could he was into touching girls as soon as he could he was into magazines and other por graphic things but it was because it had come into him in the womb from his father's activity and it would you see the reason Telling you about the prenatal Matthew 3:10 says the acts lay the AXS to the root of the trees so if we had just heard

about his history and prayed about the history the root would still be there this is why I'm telling you about the prenatal because you need to go to the route to where the thing started you can come to a river and try to bail it out and you'll be bailing forever and never get it done until you go to the source and Bam up the river at The source so that's why it's so important that we start here that you understand the prenatal because many things start there yes oh uh we're going to bring a

runner with a uh yeah this is Al McDonald he's bringing to you the reason we're doing this is so that the questions will be recorded okay um what if you had an overactive imagination as a little girl And um and you attributed everything but it was very sexual what would that be the cause of because it's just when you're talking about that it's just I've always had an overactive imagination ever since little and I don't know why I don't know where it's coming from yeah the problem is not the over active imagination it's what it's

feeding on and uh later on when we get up to talking about experiences in life we may address this a little more fully but What can happen is that the child is exposed in the room or Too Close maybe the walls are too thin between the parents and the child and the child overhears what is going on between the parents and is not prepared mentally to understand the sounds uh or uh I'll go ahead and tell you a story that I was going to tell a little later so you might understand what I'm talking about

there was a man who came to me who Was fixated on women's breasts he just always would was looking at the magazines and the bigger the breast the better and he would be watching women and watching the breast and he had been to psychiatrist he'd been to psychologist none of them could find out why was this so then he came to me and the Holy Spirit prompted me to ask where did you sleep did you have your own room he say yes I did did you ever go into your parents' room and Sleep with him

oh yes said every night I'd get up and I would go into my parents' room and I'd crawl into bed alongside my mother and uh he had abnormally good parents in every other way they were affectionate they were loving they were good disciplinarians they were prayerful Christian people but they were stupid and they let this boy come and get in their bed when until he was seven years of Age while he was in the bed they would make love to each other the father would get out to go wash himself the mother still in the

throws of climax would reach over and pull him on top of her onto her breast now do you see there's a scripture says do not expose love to a child before he's ready and this child was exposed and had no the mind isn't developed to understand it yet but he Has this identification of breast and sex and so from that moment on he was captivated searching to see rest and when we found this up are you willing to forgive your parents well I never was angry at them no you were this was a mistake on

their part are you willing to forgive your mother and your father for doing this he said yes we forgave now Lord bring to death on the cross that connection of breast and that experience and set him free from It free to be normally attracted to women but not fixated and he was healed see so you can see what his imagination would have done he would have just been looking for some place to be more real until he'd be looking for the pornog pornographic magazines so that's the kind of thing that can happen I ministered to

a man who came out of the womb filled with lust his mother was a practicing prostitute and continued in her trade Until she became so large with him that no man would buy her services and of course the spirit of lust the demons that were in those men and her came right into him and so as soon as he could do anything he was into anything sexual and in this case I'm teaching you this example to say that sometimes if you just heal the root it's enough but sometimes there's also a demon attached and in

his case we had to heal the roots And then Cast Away that demon of lust so both things had to be dealt with for the person to be set free how do you heal these things you track from fruits to Roots if you got a fruit in your life then talk with your family members about your history and look for the same patterns that you had now happening back then and if you can't find it use Gifts of knowledge and this means also go to somebody who Has experience in these areas talk with others don't

be your own counselor but talk with others who can have a fresh point of view and who can see in your life what is there and then when you're still stump that way then use Gifts of knowledge and quite often the Lord will show the person what it is just by a gift of knowledge for example uh this is not directly this area but we have friends he stands about 65 and she's about 51 and uh they said you know we have the strangest thing if in the middle of the night my wife wakes up

and her head is over my arm and has put her heads back she just is instantly Furious and she belts me and wakes me up where's that coming from the Lord showed me instantly that that in this case she was born face up rather than face down and as she was being born the mother's muscles were pushing her so That her head was being forced further and further back until she felt like her neck would break and this was made her angry and so when she was in that position with her husband she'd be instantly

Furious and HIIT him so we prayed for her birth experience to be healed and for her to forgive her mother and be forgiven for that experience of being born face up rather than face down and the next morning they bounded down the Stairs and just all smiles husband said my wife last night woke up and her head was over my arm and her head was back she didn't get angry she just turned over and cuddled up to me and we slept peacefully so does that answer it for you okay Paula you're on now we come

to the next experiences in life we're still in the same neighborhood yeah um there we had another friend who Uh had a very much of an a fixation on women's breast and we love this guy and we know he didn't mean to uh embarrass anybody but he just couldn't seem to help himself he was always staring at women and the more they bounced when they walked the more he would stare we went to a wedding of a mutual friend of ours one afternoon and um there were a number of women and all of them just

really large bosoms and instead of sitting there and looking Forward and watching what was going on in the wedding he just couldn't help himself he was looking back and just staring at these women also he uh really enjoyed good jokes but he didn't always know what was a good joke and so he would make a joke and often in the presence of some woman and he was making a joke about um her frontal development so um we called him on that a number of times and finally he got to the point where he would uh

talk to us About his upbringing we asked him if his mother had been able to um breastfeed him and he said well yeah but it didn't last very long she became ill and she didn't have the milk uh to feed me with at all and he says I guess there was something in me that just felt rejected because she put me aside and put a bottle in my mouth now I know some women would love to breastfeed their babies and maybe they would have to have and put a bottle In in the mouth but I

think more of our young women are becoming aware that the baby gets a lot more than milk when he's nursing at the breast and they know enough to hold that little one just as close as they can hold that little one and they might have a bottle in their hands eating the baby as well but it's very important for for people to to get that message that I'm loved and I feel so good and my tummy is so full is is great to feel like you're just well well Fed and well loved there is a

scripture about this Psalm 131 says I am like a weaned child I've not considered matters too high and mighty for me I'm like a weaned child but the weaned does not mean somebody who is weaned from the breast that Hebrew expression means a child who has just nursed at the breast and is so full that he's lying back just totally relaxed and at ease because he's full and satisfied I'm like a ween a child so this friend of ours had just uh Lived with a feeling that he was unsatisfied he'd been put aside and there

was a part of him that just hadn't uh felt completely um ministered to or completely loved now one of our children um he he's always done a lot of things um early and uh well but uh he he tended to grow up a little too soon now at the beginning of his life that meant that uh among other Things it meant that uh I had plenty of milk and he would nurse at the breast and that was good until he started growing teeth at very early age he was only a couple of months old and

here came theti and U he thought that I was U um a teething ring or [Music] something and uh I I tried to to teach him a gentler way of having this dinner but he just wasn't getting it and I thought you know any day now he's going To bite that part of my S off and so we stopped that but then the Lord let me know that I couldn't just cut him off completely like that because what he was wanting was more than the the milk and so I took time to rock him just

rock him and I'd sing to him and I'd read stories to uh the little guy and that seemed to fill his need for that close Embrace and I would recommend that to any of you younger women who find Yourself in that kind of a situation and you grandmothers um and even grandfathers sit down with your grandkids and hold them tight and pick them up and dance with them and sing to them tell stories to them turn music on walk around the room with them because that'll feed some of the hunger that they've had and if

they don't have the feeding of varieties of expressions of love then they'll get to Their adulthood and they'll still feel the unsatisfied need for the nursing for instance my mother's milk was bad and she' tried to nurse me and I was nearly dying from lack of nurture and uh that way that manifested in my life was that I would go to a banquet potluck dinner at the church and the table is groaning with food and I have a moment of panic there won't be enough for me so I pile up too Much food that's why

I got fat and uh then that was prayed for for me to be healed and since then I can dieet if I want to sometimes I have to pull on his shirt or something like that I had a question about pries um my son was 3 months premature and there was no chance to breastfeed him or even to hold him for quite a long time he was incubated for 2 and a half months um he's 2 five now and he definitely um Shows um or exhibits symptoms that he's never bonded with us H how do

you fix that at this age one of the things that that I would do would be to to pray for him asking the Lord to this poor love into the very depths of his spirit and find find the empty places and fill those empty places inside with that gift of love I also would use music and all because good music melodious music can mean an awful lot uh to a child uh at any Age and I would pray Lord let these beautiful sounds find the places inside that felt where he felt um left too much

alone we should explain that what we're talking about is not psychological conditioning each of us has a personal spirit and within that personal Spirit we decide how we'll react and uh so one person may have that experience that your son had and not react another person may have the same experience and react even more strongly So in each case you need to examine the case and the person in his own right and not assume that because this happened this is the result it just may be and uh you need to understand that okay come in

here not to you and her you need to tell your child at any age to I love you I'm so proud of you I'm so glad that you're my son or my daughter I have foster children and I have seen a demon in the baby that I had and he comes back to us every once in a while now but the Mother LED like a prostitute life and we raised him since he was 15 months but he comes back to our house to visit how can I deal with these children and I have a three-year-old

and a 5-year-old that had their mother married she married her father and then the two girls that I now have and I see demonic manifestations in these little girls sexually every day of their lives and I have prayed we're pastors and and I've prayed for these girls we have music but it it's still There and I and I don't know how to handle it and I see a lot of emotional traumas happening now and um especially in the three-year-old she'll she'll want might have a 16-year-old son he brings home his friend and she wants every

one of those big boys to be her boyfriend when children are given away for adoption or not wanted or conceived in a wrong situation that's very damaging to the Child the child in the spirit knows it the child knows when the parents have given away the child knows when the situation is wrong we may not know consciously but our spirit is aware of the laws of God and is and it feels guilty feels unclean feel shame in that situation and so adoptive children can manifest I say can may not always can manifest several symptoms one

is they may be unsatiable for affection no matter how much few of them that is Enough or they may turn cold and not receive it at all another is they may be CTO Maniacs they steal and they'll steal things they don't need but it's really a cry for attention their life was stolen from them by they're being given away so now they're stealing and another is that they may be uh pathological liars and they'll lie when there's no need to lie and it's because they were lied to when parents conceive a child that's T them

out to a promise I will raise you I will Nurture you when they're given away then that destroys that makes a lie of it now the child lies in return but it's also a cry for help and so uh the the things we're answering now are generally about prenatal wounding uh and that's okay but we weren't going to teach entirely about prenatal wounding we're going to teach about the sexual areas in relation to pral wounding and uh in her case conceived by the father that's incest and there is shame Involved and uh you have have

to pray not only about the incident but about the generational stream and uh there'll be talks here by some about generational patterns and you can read it in our book uh healing the wounded Spirit but you need to stop the generational patterns because you can pray till your blue in the face and she may not be healed because it's generation generationally coming down so you have to stop the generational Patterns and then you have to pray uh asking the Lord to come to her in the womb and speak to her and say you are not

a mistake I don't make any mistakes I sent you you have a right to be Ephesians 2:10 we're created in Christ Jesus for good works which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them there is no accident in this room I don't care if your parents thought you were an un an after Unthought God knew when the par parents would do the act that would get you started and so he planned for you to be and so the child needs to have that kind of prayer said into her at the very depth asking the

Lord to go back into the womb and speak to her in the womb and say you are a clean gift of Heaven it's not you that is sinful it's the parents and so that kind of prayer needs to be done and if you do sense that there's something demonic that has Entered there don't pray about that aloud with the child but apart from the child you can pray in the name of Jesus I put uh the cross of of Jesus between her and her generational stream and I bind everything that could have any uh demonic

uh attributes to it I bind that and command it to be uh gone from her we had said that we would stop every once in a while and pray and I forgot to do that um how many of you know of some pre prenatal thing in your own life that you Believe has affected you how many oh we if you could see from our point of view that's about three4 to 78 of you who have had that let's just pray we thank you Lord that you love us and that you're always seeking us to let

us know in many many ways that we've been loved that we are important that we are chosen and precious in your sight so Lord I pray that you come to each one of these that recognize something in themselves and speak to the very depths Of their being that you gave them life you breathed that Breath of Life into them and your love is just never ending for some who are here the parents wanted a boy but you were formed as a girl and so Lord we ask you to speak into the depths of that person

going back even to the time in the womb you transcend Time Lord we're locked in the present but our life is an open book to you and you can turn to the first pages of the book we ask you to come to that Child in the womb and just speak and say I don't make any mistakes I didn't send you to be a boy I sent you to be the lovely woman you are I lift off of you that Spirit of confusion I lift off of you that sense that you are wrong that you can

perform and perform and never be accepted because you're wrong in the first place I lift that lie off of you I set you free to be fully feminine and in every way that this has affected you sexually and blocked you we lift that Away now so that you can when married be wholesomely one with your husband sexually and for every man the parents wanted a girl we speak to the depths of your being saying we loose you from that lie in any way that has affected you sexually if there were Tendencies towards homosexuality we block

that now we stop it on the cross of Christ we loose you and we set you free in every way Lord that these things tended to confuse the Poes of the being are Actually crossed them so there have been homosexual espan tendencies we end that now we see you reaching in Lord and you just take hold of the poles and you set them straight so that the man manifests mainly in the male pole of his being and seeks the woman to fulfill him and so the woman manifests mainly in the female pole and seeks the

man to fulfill her we just set your pole straight and in every way that the nervous system was confused by that let that now be set Straight and healed and we loose you from all Tendencies towards homosexuality or lesbianism then Lord we come to all those who were not wanted it was a wrong time to be born or all of those who the parents committed lust with one another or you're showing me that there's some here the mother committed adultery while you were in the womb and this has put a taint on sex for you

you always felt it but you didn't know Why and so the Lord is coming right now with healing and saying it's the parents that are sinful not you we lift off the shame we lift off the confusion we lift off that block on your sexual life and we set you free to be wholesomely rightly whole holy holy h o l y holy sexual with your spouse we set you free we lift off that cloud some of you I can see it there's like a cloud of confusion that sits on You and it produces a sense

of Shame and withdrawal and blockage when you want to make love with your spouse you feel somehow out of order unclean and a lot of that came from those prenatal experiences and we lift that cloud off now and we set you free to be able to exclaim when you're with your spouse it's so holy it's so clean it's so good it's so wonderful to meet you and to be cherished we ministered to a woman in particular at one time who just could Not stand to let her husband touch her private parts at all she would

just withdraw from him and then of course his feelings were hurt and he wondered if she loved him at all and she didn't know what to do about it but then we talked with her about simple things that we all experience our diaper changing and our potty training you know we can um if if our parents are are wise and patient they can take our dirty dirty Diaper and change that uh in an attitude of um really honoring that child in fact we can even talk look we're we're going to get you all cleaned up

oh you're so sweet and we can be very gentle and very thorough about cleaning up the mess or we can go to the other um extent and and be harsh about it and oh my yuck you're just oh you smell terrible why do I always have to do this and we can make them feel guilty for having done a very Uh natural uh normal thing and such children later on in life feel unclean about their physical genitalia because that Association was made at diaper changing and that needs to be healed by praying about it that

woman's mother had been very harsh very rough in the way that she handled the girl and some times she really hurt the girl with the way she she would take hold of her and so that was just written in the girl's Heart if time somebody takes hold of me it's going to give me pain often times um genital Discovery is not understood by parents they don't realize that little children are just naturally really curious and they're experimenting with the the touch that they have and there may be nothing at all that's that's wrong about that

it's it's just a curious exploring and we can talk with Them um about it but we don't want to be harsh we don't want to make them feel like they committed the greatest sin in the world and that they're uh not welcome in this family they're going to act like that there was um the psychiatrist that came to visit us one afternoon well actually he came for some counsel himself we always uh at that uh stage we had a a whole living room full of people who were waiting for their turn to be Ministered to

we were doing everything from our own home and he came in and he waited and he waited and he waited and I was out in the kitchen doing something or other and finally he came out and he said couldn't you help me because John's not going to be able to see me today and and I am just really I'm I'm in a bad spot I need some some kind of help will you take some time with me well the this is not the best way to take somebody to counsel Them but it was the only

only uh place in our whole house that U was uh open and that was our bedroom I wouldn't advise anybody to to go there but the kitchen was full and the basement was full and the children's rooms were were full and all but we carried a couple of chairs in there to where we could uh talk quietly and uh he said I I just don't have any any kind of sexual relationship with with my wife I I find that I just Can't open myself to her there's something that just really blocks me and I can't

understand why this uh should be and so we uh prayed a bit and and I asked him about uh his um upbringing what kind of home he was in and uh after we prayed a little bit and talked then he says oh uh I think there is something there and we prayed again and I saw that the lord gave me a picture of a little boy coming Through an upstairs uh a doorway from an upstairs room and he was with his friend and they stopped at the top of the stairs and the mother was downstairs

and she looked up at them and both of them had stripped down they were naked and they were just having a a wonderful time and so she started screaming at them especially at him and saying oh you nasty little thing you nasty little boy we don't do things like that and she just raved on and on and on and On and as I describe that he said that was me he says we were we were just curious we were just being silly and we were jumping around we didn't do anything really bad but I felt

so unclean I felt like I just she she just couldn't uh understand me at all I felt like she didn't love me she wasn't going to let me be her little boy he says it was it just shattered Me and so I said let's pray uh about that and so we pray that the Lord would come to him now to the grown man and just look deeply into the very root of his life into the very beginning and poor love poor standing speak to him and let him know that he wasn't being a terrible child

that could not be kept in the home he wasn't ugly he he Wasn't uh just disgusting at all he was just a normal little boy being what he thought was funny at the time and I prayed that he' be healed that he'd be brought to rest about himself and that all of those old feelings might be just lifted out of him and taken to the cross of Jesus and we prayed that he would be released set free to be there for his wife in a loving and a gentle way not to be afraid of relationship

with her but to enjoy What the Lord gives as cleanliness and Holiness then I saw him he left that day and U I saw him a little while later and he says honey I don't know what your credentials are or what your experience has been but you sure do know what you're talking about he says the Lord has just done wonderful things inside of of me and as I've been open as I've been changed so has my wife and we have a wonderful Relationship now then we're coming on further up through like how you doing

this just kind of heavy stuff you okay yeah you discussed the uh um result of a woman having adultery uh while she's pregnant uh what kind of impact might there be if the father uh had adultery uh not in the house and not in front of the kids is there any impact that way there's always impact However we know a lot more in our spirit than we know in our conscious mind have you seen that you know you'll have a pronator sense of something and sure enough here it comes our spirit just knows have you

have you met somebody for the first time and your spirit leaps and Rec nition because your spirit knows a lot more well our spirit knows when the father is doing that but our conscious mind doesn't know so we don't know why We have that anxiety we don't why we have that confusion we don't know why we have that feeling I remember in the pastor there was a a boy who nobody knew he was committing adultery with somebody and in my congregation and I didn't know why I felt anger at that young man see my spirit

knew what my mind didn't so it does impact now if he knows and is aware it's a more conscious direct impact and there needs to be prayers for forgiveness for the boy to forgive the Father for that and for any impact of uncleanness to come and because he has been adulterous and now is coming to the wife and making love to the wife while he's in the womb spirits of uncleanness can come through him into the mother and on into the baby and the baby can come out of the womb with a spirit of lust

I've had to minister to a number who had that very thing and we had to cast that Spirit of lust off but you Recognize that if you just cast that Spirit of lust off it wanders around in waterless places says better where I came from it comes back so you have to dismantle the house by praying the prayers of forgiveness and deal with all the feelings and thoughts in the person so that the demon has no place to come back to okay now the next area we want to go into is as children get a

little older there's something back there I just have a two-part question um My parents um W married when they can see belied me but um the other thing was too is is that my mother had an abortion before I was conceived so how would I be able to get all of that stuff off me good for you um again well this does have somewhat to do with our sexuality when a child is conceived out of wedlock the child in his Spirit knows it he feels the parents' fear guilt and shame if they had that and

then Deuteronomy 23 2 says that the a child conceived out of Redlock will amount to nothing and is not allowed to come into the temple for 12 Generations is that right 10 generations for 10 Generations how do you heal it well this is one reason that Jesus was conceived as he was the whole populace thought that Mary and Joseph had committed fornication or that some other one than Joseph committed fornication with her so Jesus was a man despised and acquainted With s who knew rejection Jesus came into that in order he he had to be

made like us in every respect in order to be a faithful high priest and so he experienced all that and you remember when he was teaching in the temple the Pharisees said how does this man know these things we know who his parents were understand they thought his parents were adulterous so Jesus had no right to be in the temple for 10 generations and Jesus went through all That to break it so that's the first answer is to know that when a child has been conceived out of wedlock the child knows it but Jesus has

come into that shame to break it and so you pray that inviting the Lord to come to that child whose parents conceived him out of wedlock and just say to the child this is the parent sin it's not your sin it's their sin we lift the shame and the guilt off of you and we break that curse of the law that says that you can't come Into the temple for 10 Generations Jesus broke this for you by coming into that situation okay now there was a second part to her question which is split my mind

oh abortion an abortion before the researchers now know that when there has been an abortion before a child is conceived that that can affect the child in the womb because of the guilt and fear and hurt in the mother and U the child in The womb may feel like I'm not really acceptable why because there's the fear of miscarriage quite often when women have had abortions the body has learned and miscarriages and so there's a lot of hurt that needs to be healed the womb is not a good clean safe place to be until the

mother herself is healed and there needs to be forgiveness for the abortion abortion is murder people it is murder it is not That you have a right to get rid of this thing it's not the products of conception the scripture says she was great with child the scripture never ever speaks of the fetus as a as a thing or an object in fact the word fetus means child and so it is murder but we've been taught by a secular society that tells lies that that's just a thing and and then you get it's a stronghold

of delusion and then you get the buzzword And the buzz word is well I've got a right to my own body which is supposed to do away with the fact that the baby has a right to its body and that this is just a thing and so many people have done it and in healing a person who's had abortions do not mollycoddle or be too soft about it you need to be frank forthright also sensitive and gentle but forthright and you need to say this was murder you can be forgiven for murder and we're going

to ask forgiveness for Murder and pray for that mother to be forgiven for murdering her child that needs to be that clean and that deep and that sharp so that she is really set free uh I think we stirred up a whole bunch of questions uh we might not get on to the rest of our lesson we'll try to get some of these answers um well following in that um in the direction that you're going um Miss Carriage um is there any uh do you know what I'm you know what I'm go yeah the researchers

now know that when there has been a miscarriage the mother may not be able completely to bond with the new child in her womb because she's afraid of losing that one so the result is that a child comes out of the womb already feeling deprived of acceptance and love and that can then affect sexually later on too And so that can be healed just by praying with the person about it okay I I well one more question then we're going to have to go on to our lessons because we still have some very important areas

to cover I'm glad for the liveliness of questions okay I'm from a Muslim background and um my parents are Muslims and in they are allowed to marry more than one Wife and um if you know mother and father have cheated on each other how do how do you pray to the child how do you and the child she rejected in the womb how do you pray for that everybody could hear him him the child you're now ministering presumably to the adult but the child within needs to be unable to forgive the parents for committing adultery

and so you just ask The Lord to come into the depths of the heart and enable the inner child to forgive the father and the mother for committing adultery don't stop there lift off all senses of shame because we take on the shame of our parents as our own lift off the shame from that person I just lift it off of you I set you free from that weight of Shame and guilt and fear and hurt and pray for the heart to be healed so that present relationships are not Colored by that guilt shame fear

and hurt that came from the parents committing adultery okay we need to go on into the next areas that we wanted to cover so we don't run out of time one of the things we wanted to cover briefly at least is uh how we speak to our little children about um their [Music] um well about having their little peek and uh Peep and showtimes yeah Peep and showtimes and all and running around and thinking that that is uh silly and just lots and lots of fun I remember um having um most of uh our son

Tim's children over for an evening and we had this huge bathtub and apparently they had been allowed to take of bath together two Little girls and and a boy who was a little older and so they they would just get in there and just splash and just have an absolutely wonderful time but one evening we got the bathtub all full and Joel spoke up and he says granny we aren't taking our baths together anymore because we have to know that we save our private parts for our husband or for our wife and I'm saving my

private parts for My wife my little sisters don't need to see that you see his reservation was not out of fear or stigma but out of Holiness and my mother caught me in some pornographic stuff when I was a kid sat me down and said John or Jackie she called me she says Jackie said your body is Holy and clean and good and we don't look at other people's bodies in wrong ways because we keep our body only to our spouse when Married I'm so grateful for my parent my mother's instruction my father's modeling Because

by the grace of God I've never known any woman other than Paula in all my life and that's is more neither has paula know any other man that is more precious to us we've married 54 years now [Applause] now the next thing we wanted to cover is the sexuality in dating so I need to take a little time and explain something Here yeah you don't find it mentioned in the Bible the reason is there was no no dating in Bible times in Bible times you wouldn't make your own mistakes your parents would make it for

you which means that your mother and father would pick out your spouse for you and you didn't date in fact the uh there were two Ceremonies for the wedding the first was I think it was called the nissuin ceremony or the aruan I can't I got them backwards maybe Anyway the first ceremony is the betral and then there's a year in which they're not allowed to come together though they're are technically married but this is their time to get to know each other that's their time to fall in love love and then comes the second

ceremony and then the consummation sexually but they don't have dating so dating is a modern phenomenon and so we have a modern problem and it has some benefits and some Drawbacks we do find in ministering to Eastern Mid Eastern people who did have uh arranged marriages that they didn't really get some of them didn't really get to know the other sex enough to know how to relate like they have problems in Germany today one young man uh he met a young girl he did not with her once or twice and the the Lord said to

him he thought this is your spouse and so the next date with her he said God told me I'm going to marry you and she said well that's nice but I would like to get to know you a little while he thought he was being rejected never dated her again they they had no ability hadn't been around the other sex enough to read the nuances because women don't say what they mean they say what they mean that is you have to be able to read behind what they say to know what they mean and if

you haven't had any experience then when you get married she says something And you miss it cuz you thought she meent this but she meant that how many husbands now know what I'm talking about there I used to pull my hair out and say NADA what does this lovely creature want and then I would say to Paula why don't you tell me directly what you want I did are you [Applause] listening how many wives know that one and then then she would say now if I Have to tell you that destroys all the romance you're

supposed to know right so how do we get into this one anyway oh from da I was talking about the fact that we don't we do have the benefit in dating of getting to be able to learn how to relate in the dating but then the question has always been how far is too far we want you to understand that we are built for Covenant That God has created one man and one woman for each other and that marriage is a sacred Covenant and we actually say it in the marriage vows and don't know what

we're really saying and keep the only unto her so long as you both shall live that's Covenant God expects you to live up to that Covenant it's a holy promise you made unto God and so we're built for Covenant and so there are keys to when we are are Entering into covenantal relationship that's the point of stopping in other words you can kiss but when passion Rises that's the point of stopping because that's the entrance into a covenantal relationship touching of the woman's body parts or the man that is off limits because that belongs in

the covenantal relationship so you don't go that far what do you do It's it's it's kind of dangerous in our dating situation because many young people don't know that the longer you relate to each other going steady the more the body and mind and heart and spirit are enlisted to go further so that you can go so far one night and the next night you can't stop and so what we'll say to Young coule is when you enter into going study don't risk yourselves don't date In a situation where you're alone now when we were

growing up it was much harder uh because it was a much more chaperon society and you really couldn't get that alone but today oh what can happen and uh so we say double date and be in each other's homes with your parents don't give yourselves opportunity to get into TR trouble don't risk our son Tim and his wife Victoria Both devout Christians and uh both determined to be virgin until married but they were engaged for 2 and 1/2 years and uh they said we'd never advise a couple to do that they went to University together

and Men could visit in the women's dorms and so they would be sitting in Victoria's room watching TV but Tim would carefully leave leave the door open so that they were not private then helpful people would close the door and Tim and doggedly have to go open the door and uh so they said we barely made it but we made it so uh understand these principles and uh teach them to your young people now from this I want to say to you two more things that I consider and then I'll ask your question two things

that I consider very important God has created you with the glory every wife is the glory of her Husband scripture says there's a glory in you and that glory is to be treasured and protected and given only to your own man and so I want to plead with all those who may not yet be married who hear this fight to keep your virginity do not give it away there's a glory there that belongs only to your husband when married or to your wife when married keep the glory intact Paula and I were both virginal until

we were married with each other And that's precious to us now the next thing is people do not understand this there I don't have time to explain completely about dotism but dotism means that the Greeks were scandalized that God himself would be a human being because human beings were supposed to be defiled so he only appeared to have a body now I could give you that whole history but the upshot of it is this that dotism has convinced many people that we are compartmentalized that our Spirit is over here and our bodies over here and

we're with God on Sunday but the rest of the time we're secular and the result of this has been that men tend to think that what they do with their bodies is just something they do with their body and doesn't affect their spirit so the husband thinks I'll just go to bed with this prostitute that's just a body thing and the wife finds out oh honey that didn't mean anything to me I just love only you you need to Understand something that is that we are spiritual bodies we are one I cannot touch her and

it be just body to body my spirit touches her we are meeting Spirit to Spirit through human touch you need to understand that and so Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 6 and says that your body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit and do you not know that when you lie with a woman you become one with her you cannot just Bond you cannot just have a a sexual experience and be it Body to body that's impossible you are being bonded with that one whole being to whole being and God has so created every woman

that the first man who enters her her spirit is created to bond to him latch onto him Pro give him nurture give him children bless him all her days this is why Leviticus says if a Man Lies with a woman he must marry her because if he doesn't marry her she's undone because Her spirit is bonded to him this is not a matter of willpower it's not a matter of whether she wants to it's a matter of what God created our spirit to do and be so our spirit bonds to that one and if you

lie with this one this one or this one then your spirit is totally confused because your spirit is still trying to be bonded to every one of them God has so created every man that the first woman he enters his spirit is bonded to hers instantly it's a created thing not A matter of willpower it's created that way to protect her to nurture her to fulfill her to give her children to take care of her all of her life that bonding is there and our secular society that has been completely destroyed now every movie every

TV every program every novel people hop in bed with each other if they just happen to like each other and7 is in bed with every hero they heroin sound he know whoo so and that's destruction see 1 Corinthians 6 says that se is the only sin within the body Satan wants to destroy God's Temple which is your body and so he wants to get you into sexual sin scripture says that a man who commits commits adultery destroys his own soul Ezekiel 4 says the soul that sinth that Soul shall surely die but the beond that

if I unite with Paula in the depths of sex her spirit nurtures me her spirit sings into me and tells me John this is Who you are any other woman lying with me would tell me a lie and confuse my soul you understand that now that's a lie cuz no other woman can tell me who I am no other man can tell Paula who she is any other man lying with her would lying with her would lie to her would confuse her soul this is so extremely important that you understand this because now young people

are hopping into bed with anybody and they're Destroying the glory that they have and then they're not as capable they think they're Soul the swan song If you have plenty of sexual experience before you get married then you'll be Adept lovers I want to tell you as a counselor we found that the reverse is always true that those who have been promiscuous Now find they cannot have full sex with their spouse why because they destroyed the Capacity to bond and they destroyed their Holiness and their spirit is still dragged to all those people they're still

connected to so what is needful is that there be prayers not only of forgiveness for falling into fornication or adultery but prayers of separation of the spirits of the people some people call this soul ties I call it Spirit bonding because your spirit bonds with The other person now I'm not going to ask how many of you have been to bed where you shouldn't have been to bed but you know and the Lord wants to set you free so that if you have had Union with anyone who is not your spouse the Lord would loose

your spirit from that bonding direct your spirit to forget the union sets you free to be present to your own spouse this also goes God hates divorce but when we do divorce and remarry he's Eminently practical and so out of his grace he will set your spirit free from the previous spouse scripture says let not man put a under what God have put together so you don't do this glibly but God can put us sender through his designated Authority so if you know your Authority you can When God says to do it set a person

free from his previous spouse so that he or she is free to be to the present Spouse God doesn't this isn't God's first will God's first will stay with your spous all your life okay now does is this question about that cuz we need to pray will this before that or some something else wait pray and then ask you question okay let's bow in prayer Lord I Thank you for the wondrous gift of holy matrimony you said through Paul it is an Honorable a stake instituted of God we thank you Lord for the gift of

cherishing one another that you've given us ability to meet Spirit to Spirit heart to heart mind to mind memory to memory affection to affection and body to body and that there is a Holiness in that kind of joining Adam knew his wife and she conceiv so we thank you for the Holiness of sex but we see Lord that Satan has sung a SP and song and so many Have capitulated and have just hopped into bed with somebody else who's not the spouse whether many times before marriage or once before marriage or after marriage and adultery

or between marriages and Lord our Spirits those of us who've done this the spirits have been confused dragged down they Drago scattered still United here and there where we ought not to be United so Lord for every person who has committed fornication or adultery and Has repented I pronounce by the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ you are forgiven you are loosed from all the Justice demands you are walking in grace even God shall remember your sin no more and you are washed clean in the water of the Lord and by his word you're wash

clean and now by the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ I loose your spirit from everyone with whom you have been bonded sexually I loose your spirit and direct your spirit to forget that Union or those unions from everyone with whom you've had any degree of sexual involvement I loose your spirit and direct your spirit to be free Lord let there be such a healing that each one is as a newborn virgin whether male or female cleansed and made whole and set free if presently married to be fully present to meet cherish respect know the

spouse Sexually Lord wec discover to us the glory of full sexual Union with our own spouse I wash away everything that defil that set us free Lord Jesus Christ we thank you Lord we have a question back there oh can you run me up and what if uh your sexuality has been taken from you as a child by force basically from uh people who brought you up or you know whether it be dads or uncles or you know gangs raping you whatever Etc unfortunately that's happening to more and more in these days but it's never

too late to receive the healing that the Lord has to give so we would pray that the Lord would find you unite his spirit with yours in your inmost person the little boy how however old you were when this happened and that the Lord would wash you clean just wash you absolutely clean With his living water and resurrect within you that which he created which is the glory of your sexuality many ways we've been turned off tomorrow night we'll be teaching about the Heart of Stone and inner vows in many ways we've been turned off

and turned into stone and prevented from being wholly human with one another so we pray that your spirit be resurrected and set free to be fully human with other people and we would pray That the Lord would just search your inmost being and find every place in you where there's still a a wound a deep wound inside and a a sense of being betrayed and that the Lord would pour His healing power into those wounds and heal them and that he would lift off of you um that sense of being uh betrayed and that he

would newly and freshly just cover you with his presence with his Protection and that he would lift from you the hurtful memories of what went on so that you don't become in bondage to those memories dreaming about it remembering it repr procing processing it in your mind just pray that he gather all of that and lift it away from you so that it doesn't have to weigh heavily on you anymore and also we would pray that the Lord would to would discover to you who you are the Fullness of who you are and remove every

blockage that would keep you from coming into the fullness of your destiny and purpose in life before we leave the subject uh I want to say to every wife here you have ch power and it doesn't depend on the size there is a power that flows through your chest into your husband it's vital for his restoration when I come home and I've been pouring Myself out for other people I feel emptied out I feel CED out I feel like I can't even be human but a Paula puts her chest against me and just holds on

for a while I can feel the glory of her spirit singing into me and saying this is who you are John restoring me to the capacity to be human so wife when your husband comes home at night don't meet him like this talk talk talk talk talk meeting with your chest and just hold On the men over here are saying preach it John preach it [Laughter] so hear this scripture in Ephesians 5 husbands love your wives just as Christ also loved the church and gave himself up for her that he might sanctify her having cleansed

her by the washing of water with the word that he might present to himself the church in all her glory having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing but That she should be holy and blameless so husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies he who loves his own wife loves himself and it goes around the other direction too that the wife loves her husband she loves herself so U we have another big area to cover and then we'll have just question answer I just have a question question did you

say that the book healing the Wounded Spirit specifically deals with the adoption issues uh some of the things you said about the kleptomaniac the liar I have an 18-year-old son who's adopted and probably for several years now always threatens with running away and both my kids are adopted and the daughter seems to have done fine I've broke generational curses and done everything I know to do but you've just described my 18-year-old who's recently begun to Steal and lie and it's like uh he's a foreigner all of a sudden and is that book specifically deal with

the adoption we have a booklet that does specifically deal with it new life for your adopted child and I was asked by an adoption agency to write that so that they could put it in the hands of all of the adopted parents that can be I don't know cuz I don't know what can be ordered here or Through Elijah house through our catalog and it's just Elijah house.org and you get it uh you know you need to pray for adopted children when an adopted child comes to your home he's already tragically wounded and so there

needs to be prayers so that he can forgive his parents for giving him away uh he can hear the message that he's not a mistake that he's welcome then you need to give that child many more prayers and many more Hugs as he grows up it's not like having your child of your own body okay now next area to cover as we grow up is masturbation there's a great controversy about masturbation there are some who say it's not sinful there are some who saying it is sinful I'm not going to tell you which side of

this thing I come down on I'm just going to report what people say uh Dr James Dobson says that 97% of the world the world's people confess that They have masturbated the other 3% are liars and he speaks of it as being quite normal as a normal outlet for children now here's another thing that you need to understand a boy would be trained by his father in the Hebrew culture like Joseph training Jesus to be a carpenter by the time of his barida which is at 12 or 13 He is capable of supporting a family

he has a trade he has been trained by the time he's 16 he's married a Girl by The time she was 13 14 or 15 would be married so in the biblical culture they did not have that long time when teenagers our sons says the hormones turn on and the brains fall out and don't have that long time where you have the urges and can't express them so very soon they were married and but now we have it so that you might be 21 22 25 even 30 and you're not yet married and you have

no right to express really the Sexual urges and uh so it's quite a different situation today than it was in biblical days so masturbation is more prevalent than it was then and uh so James doson says that it's normal and it's just an expression uh and it's a release of tension and so on now others say it is a sin and some say it's demonic what I will say to you is this whether it is sinful or not it can Become sinful when visualization enters remember if you look at a woman with lust in your

heart you have already committed adultery with her in your heart so if you are as a man masturbating and picturing a woman you're into sin it can become sinful when it becomes addictive when does it become addictive one of the most contributive factors to uh physical addiction to masturbation is unsettled issues in the Life in the home tensions that find no way of finding expression that are right you don't know how to pray yet and you build into you the need for release and then what happens at the moment of ejaculation a man comes into

rest and peace so a boy who is filled with tension may find himself wanting to masturbate in order to come to that point of rest and peace the sin in this is actually idolatry because he is finding from that sexual release the Kind of emotional release he should have found in prayer understand what he's doing he's turning to that physical release to find that release instead of to God in worship and devotion so it's idolatrous woman can do the same lately people have become much more free I was teaching a group group that had about

600 people there man raised his hand want to ask a question said I'm addicted to masturbation I've been doing This five and six times a week and what do I do about it and the next night another group maybe about 800 people woman raised her hand said I masturbate every day what can I do about it we' become a lot more Frank in these days when I was a kid nobody would admit that but they' certainly become more Frank and uh I want to teach you something about how to set people free from addiction to

Masturbation first do not come down heavy with the law with condemnation uh Romans 3 says that the strength of sin is the law and when you enter into a struggle with your flesh or struggling against the law you increase the problem I'll show you very simply just do exercise right now just start saying inside your mind I will not think a curse word I will not think a curse word I will not think a curse word what happens now I will stop thinking curse Words I would see the longer you struggle the more you increase

the problem you can't get there that way so it has to be that you're set free from the Lord Jesus Christ so don't put people under a taboo and uh strong legal demands quit do not treat it as a DE demon even if you sense that a demon of lust is there because it won't work that way You' got to deal with the roots then later on silently or aloud you can Cast Away a demon but don't and initially deal with it as a demon it won't work it'll come back unless you deal with the

roots find out in by talking with a person about the life history find out what are the tensions in the home find out what are the seductive factors uh one thing uh uh I've meant to mention when you're growing up there are a lot of parents who do not observe proper modesty around the home I've I know cases where the woman would walk around The home in her panties and bra and not realizing that this is creating lustful feelings in her sons I knew of one man who would come home from work shed all his

clothing and sit in front of the TV cross-legged watching TV with his daughters who are now into teenage running around the house and and not understanding that this is creating lust observe proper modesty find out if there has been that kind of stimulation that's wrong stimulation in the home in other Words find out what are the causes that are behind the addiction to masturbation deal with that uh release the tensions through forgiveness and through healing through understanding talk with the person about it but and when you talk with the person it's not talking down to

to that for oh you dirty sinner now we'll find out what's wrong with you it's your normal now let's find out what are the factors at work here and so you find out what are the factors at Work and pray for the healing of the person and uh then you can say let's bring this to death now one uh Pastor he had I think four children three or four children pastor of a large congregation addicted to masturbation what had happened was that as a boy under much tension he had learned to find release through masturbation

and now as a pastor of a congregation he wasn't successfully dealing with it with prayer it was before the days of Intimacy that we know now and he didn't know how to release in prayer so he was going back to masturbation to find that release what we did was to find out what were those tension factors in his childhood pray for those to be healed and then I said do not put yourself under heavy guilt for this you will only increase the problem if it's guilt give it instantly to the Lord Lord I Thank You

for Your Grace you forgive me I release this to you turn your feelings Sub sublimate so when you begin to feel sexual drive turn it through prayer to the Lord sublimate and what we did was to take off of him the struggle against the law the taboo and lift that off of him and a week or two later he reported you know I've only slipped once or twice and I didn't put myself under heavy condemnation and uh it's dying and I'm free and I don't have to masturbate Anymore the other sin if you're married is

that you're you're depriving your spouse of who you are you're finding a satisfaction which is a false satisfaction apart from your wife wife or your husband that should have been given through your spouse only so it's wounding to the spouse I've had to minister to so many wives whose husbands were masturbating and they felt so wounded because the husband was finding That when he should have found her she should have been able to fulfill every wife inside in the depths of her spirit knows God has created her to be a refreshment and a fulfillment to

her husband she wants to be that she's terribly wounded when the husband deprives her of her right to be the one to do that so then we had to forgive him for depriving his wife and just cleanse away this whole situation and he's now free of the Addiction okay now then we could go through a several other things but it's getting a little bit late and uh we did want if there are any areas that you need to question about so that we're clear about it okay uh would you get hers and as parents as

we learn these things and get healed when and how is it appropriate then to um deal with our children on the things that we have affected them through these Things uh I think I hear two questions one is when is it appropriate to talk with the children and then when it is appropriate to deal with some of the deeper wounding issues yeah uh we don't tell children what we know about sex too soon uh before 6 7 or 8 it's still too early and of course then it depends some children mature much quicker our son

Lauren at nine was a full-blown teenager Our son Mark at 16 hadn't even reached teenage so Geniuses mature slowly and he was a genius and uh so you have to be sensitive to where the child is and when the child reaches a capacity to really understand then you need to talk about things and uh problem today is that they are exposed to so much on TV and movies and every other source that before you feel that it's appropriate to talk they Already know and they know wrongly he says they're 30 before they're 20 that's right

and they're 20 before they're 10 and they're not ready to know what they know they're exposed much too soon and so it takes wisdom and you have to pray to the Lord to be uh informed by him and have a sense of when it's time to sit down and talk with the children I'm very grateful my mother did a lot of wrong things but she did some things Right right and I'm grateful for her instruction to me about who you are as a sexual being and keeping yourself only to your spouse and that what you

are is Holy and clean and good those words just burnt right into me and stayed with me so it kept me on me toala but it's a tough thing today because we're being robbed of the chance to wait until our children are mature enough to really talk so when you can then talk with them but the worst the Worst thing would be the vacuum not to do anything okay there he's coming are you learning a lot okay you okay what I feel here is kind of a heaviness are are some of you feeling guilty already

for what you didn't do with your kids MH are some of you feeling pretty heavy because of your ownx sexual experience And you may be sitting there thinking oh my goodness I think people are afraid to raise their hands okay we'll pray again in a minute there okay your question um what if you were married previous time before the marriage you're in now is that more of a bondage because you were married in holy matrimony and more connection there yes although it depends on a lot of factors as to how free you have Become from

the previous spouse if you've worked through all the emotional areas of forgiving like John was talking about this morning if you were here about the Forgiveness session and he was talking about his need to forgive his previous spouse so he could be free to Carol uh it depends on how many of those have been worked through but if you have been married for a while your spirit is very firmly bonded to the previous spouse even if you're with your mind and Your heart you wanted to be free you're spirit is still bonded and so there

is a need for that prayer of separation of spirits to set you free to be only today it's particularly true for a man because it's built into a man to protect the wife and so we've had cases of a man who is divorced now he's married but he keeps telling his wife he's got to go back and do things for his previous wife and it's out of that sense of protection that is still there because he he still Bonded and it was and of course this wounded her you you're here for me not for her

and it was spiritually adulterous but it was that bonding that was still there that he thought he ought to protect and provide for her and so that all needs to be prayed off and you break that Spirit bonding and direct his Spirit to be free and to be only to the present spouse yeah um I just wanted to know kind of the other part of her question as far as I've got a five and a six-year-old and there's some stuff that like how exactly do we go about praying especially at that age I mean I

can't sit down and have a theop faet session with them I mean you know I mean how do you exactly at that age I mean can you do it while they're sleeping and just pray for you know how exactly would you do that and go back to your kids or you know again it's always dependent on the relationship you have with the child on The child's level of maturity some children at six can understand a lot and you can pray with them like you'd pray with anybody some children at six you can't talk about it

at all CU they're they they haven't got the capacity to handle it so it takes a lot of sensitivity in the Lord to know which is which and what to do but you can pray apart from children uh be a little careful about praying for Them while they're sleeping um there is that tendency in us to manage God to manage our children there's a tendency in us to want to control our children and this is unfair you can pray things while they're asleep like oh God fill my child with love speak to my child's heart

that he's love that he belongs that he's precious that he dear let your angels protect but don't say Lord go into my child and Change his mind that's unfair while he's sleeping understand that one it violates free will Jesus did not sit up in heaven and say I'm going to change everybody on Earth zap he came down here and became one with us and respected our Free Will so you have to respect the Free Will of the other it's okay to pray for them while they're sleeping but not in such a way is to control

them or manage them rather to fill them with love and peace and joy And so on um if You' had quite a few partners and you now have decided to keep yourself pure and then you meet your husband do you have to even though you've forgiven yourself do you have to ask for your husband to be forgiveness too or do you know what I'm trying to say like even though you forgive yourself but because now you truly understand the ramifications of your actions you mean ask your previous Husband's for no no I've never been married

but because unfortunately I I bought into the world's Liv you know have sex before marriage now when I meet my my husband to be or whoever he is do I have to ask for his forgiveness for my previous actions even though I there needs to come a time when you talk with your perspective husband openly and honestly about your history you never want there to be secrets that are kept from the spouse that's going to put a Block into life but you also don't rush in and blurt out everything instantly so you need to be

sensitive to the time and let him know and ask for forgiveness yes that you're not you haven't kept yourself pure and he says honey that's all right say no I need for you to say I forgive you and I receive you okay my daughter had a miscarriage two months ago and is pregnant again this was her first time I just wondered how I should encourage her pray for her um so That she will be able to bond and she still has fear of course that it will happen again um how do I best minister to

her if the daughter has had a miscarriage and is now pregnant then there may be fear that she might lose another one uh if it's possible to do so if you have that kind of forum with her you want to answer this one I'll direct you to a book uh a book that I wrote some time ago healing Women's emotions and there is some information about what you just asked at some point it would be good for her to talk with somebody who can far it out if there was any psychosomatic reason for the previous

miscarriage sometimes there's a miscarriage simply because the child is wrongly being formed and God just releases and so the the miscarriage was in this sense a good thing but sometimes we've had cases where a Woman in the womb was not wanted well the parents were living in a world of hate and the child came out of the womb with a Death Wish didn't really want to be here now when she conceived a child her death wish against herself went against her child and was the psychosomatic cause for the miscarriage and those factors needed to be

healed in her so it's a little tough when she is pregnant to talk about that and pray about that because it can Create fear in her uh I would just pray for her protection and pray for the child within to be blessed and uh after the child is born or if she miscarriages then you can have a time of counsel and prayer that would heal any psychosomatic causes for miscarriage we've had a number of women who have had several miscarriages and were broken heart harded about it and when we found out all the causes and

prayed for those to be healed they Conceived and easily carried a child full term yeah yeah I have a question about how you said um when you're growing up there's tension in the house and that's like like with Pastor bation it's a former release like what would you forgive like if like if you need to forgive your parents what would you forgive like how would you like yeah you need to talk about what created the tension at least with some other person And inside your own thinking and meditating what created the tension in the home

was there ranker were there unresolved issues did the parents not talk things out and you as a burden Bearer felt their tension and came into you uh were there tensions in the world situation you were there tensions in your job or in your school think about all those pray about all those and then build into yourself the habit of praying about things so that the body learns to Release its tensions to the Lord all day long in prayer once that's built then the steam that went into masturbation is gone okay on over here John um

my son who is 33 um is a twin but I lost his twin in the womb and it's taken him some time to heal from that though he is praise God healed my grandson who was one this week um was also a twin that was lost and I wonder if there's any way that you could Advise prayer to avoid the kind of pain that my son has experienced from being experienced by my grandson in other words what to look for and how to pray it through and whether to tell him and all these kind of

things that we very painfully and perhaps wrongfully did with our first son I have the sense that you have the wisdom to answer your own question I have the sense that you know how to pray if you don't think on it and pray a while and uh you can pray was it Your son was conceived as a twin and but his twin died and he didn't yeah uh there is a need in that case many times the spirit of the twin knows it and feels wounded that that one isn't there and so you talk with

him about that and pray about it and if he isn't open to talk then you as a mother can pray about it separately from him praying for him to be relieved and healed from that and uh then he has a child as well did I hear that yeah and uh that was the Answer that was where I was saying I think you know now follow your own maternal instincts there in praying for the child um when my daughter was born I thought she was going to be a boy the whole time she was in the

womb I had dreams and she wasn't and I was wondering you said her spirit man probably knows that so do I confess this to her how what do I do how old is your Child eight she's old enough now if you talk about it in Wise ways and uh just express to her that you have learned that this was a mistake on your part and that it could have affected her may not have but if it could and just pray with her and affirm to God that she is who she is lift off of her

any weight that she should have been a boy cuz you wanted a boy or thought you going to a boy pray for the whole thing to be lifted off of her and her to be Free hi my question goes back to I had two children in my home um one was given to us at 3 months old we was until he was 10 months and then keep that up closer to you sorry then a 8-year-old and we brought them in and gave them much love um and then when we gave them back we still see

them on occasion but how is that going to affect them that rejection because they don't have that love at home and how can we help them through That since we still see these were foster children they weren't foster children we didn't know them we just took them in you said you gave them back basically to the right but we weren't through the Foster system we just did it out of the CL of our hearts but but you were foster parents basically what happens in such cases If the child was bonding with the original mother and

father and was given away it's terribly wounding and in such cases they may Withdraw and be afraid to bond again but now you come along and you're very sensitive and loving the heart opens and they bond now you give them away and now they're wounded again so what was needful in that case if you known beforehand had the wisdom was to talk with the child as you approach the time of releasing the child back to the who natural parents he did it with the 8-year-old with the baby it's tougher isn't it but you can take

a baby into your arms and you can explain the whole thing as though that child were an adult and the spirit of the child can hear and understand and you prepare the child for partition okay I think we should close it's getting pretty late John what oh we're here before I was a Christian um I could his adultery but I was pregnant with my daughter at the time and she's now 24 And could be getting married quite soon um she's not walking with God but I think she must know in her spirit you know the

confusion the shame and everything from me should I confess to her what I did and ask her to forgive me would that help her actually if you can sit down with her and talk about her childhood with you and confess to her what happened and then pray with her for any deposit in her heart that came from that to be Lifted off of her it can be very very relieving to her there would be many things deep in her spirit that she knew and then never got explained and it'd be like turning lights on and

Oh that's oh yeah oh yeah now I understand so it could be very healing but just be careful in the way you do it you do it you'll just rush in and blurt out but you pray for the Lord to provide a forum where you can talk and where it'll be healing and rightful for her and be sure You say some very positive things yeah about loving her that you want her that she's precious being blessed by her and uh ask for her forgiveness for your doing that while she was in the room and if

she says oh Mom that's all right no you say wasn't all right honey I need for you to say I forgive you Mom and then you receive that forgiveness okay we need to close but we'll have one more question here oh wait over here what where are we Doing here um I don't have children myself but I watch my uh nieces and nephews and um I I I done some things that I feel like out of um some things that I'm struggling with my life to them nothing being well I don't want to nothing major

but I feel like I need to repent to them and um and they're quite young one is three and the two are uh Twins and they're um Um but I I want to repent to them and so I guess I'm asking I can do that and and you believe their spirits will receive that she is saying that she feels like she needs to repent to these very very young children I would say no you repent with some adults and receive forgiveness expressed by the Lord through them and uh let it go uh there's no need

to burden those nephews or nieces with it and uh it would U they're too young it Can shatter their pictur view rather than bless so be very careful it's sometimes confession can be hurtful you need to do it when God says it's the right time and the right place and the right way one more here and then we'll close where's it um I thought more of a comment than a question what you you were saying that the sexual your sexuality is a very spiritual thing and my husband and I have just gone through some real

Tremendous healing in our lives why isn't this more taught in the church about the spirituality and inviting Jesus into the marriage chamber I mean the awesomeness of it is just you know how do we teach that to our children yes that's a very good comment and the church has been remiss about this has taught the Tabo without teaching the glory and we really need to teach children we were invited in Germany to a retreat center happened to be Catholic They wanted us to teach the children about the glory of Christian marital sex and a bunch

of priests were sitting in and when we finished teaching the young people said oh we've never heard that before we never knew there was a glory and the priests were just in awe and uh we need and it could have been Protestant and the Ministers of being awe we're not talking about Catholic CL we just talking about what we've not done in the church like we should have Done and uh so there does need to be teaching of the Holiness and the glory of Christian marital sex uh there's been such a confusion about it one

whole denomination in the last century which was a Pentecostal denomination believe that sex is sinful that sex itself is evil only supposed to do it to have children if you did it and enjoyed it confess you sinned and uh in that denomination there is more adultery by far than in any other Denomination because if I were to come to Paula and feel that if I'm beginning to be aroused sexually it's wrong now I got to push my normal natural feelings down you push it down where's it going to come up W in Elizabeth in England

there was a man who had believed this lie about sexist nasty he made love to his wife and she just normally responded and arous was aroused passionately and that was holy and good in the morning he pron He he apologized profusely to his wife I'm so sorry I aroused your passions you can believe I will never do that again meanwhile he go off to a miss this was the the damage that that docetic teaching did in the 19th century when people were taught wrongly and you need to understand Governor Myrtle a Swedish sociologist says that

in America any man who begins to make love to his wife feels guilty and that was because of that Wrong teaching now we need to come to understand that sex between a husband and wife is Holy and clean Paul and I many times would find ourselves exclaiming it's so holy it's so beautiful it's so clean it's so good because it's a meeting and a cherishing of each other Spirit to Spirit heart to heart we taught about the Holiness of sex Christian sex at a large uh summer camp with a good proportion of uh the um

the the People who were attending were in their teams and their response to what we taught afterwards was we didn't know we were going to miss something good we didn't know we had a glory we could lose so we really do our young people a disservice if we just really read them some rules and regulations and we fail to let them know what the Lord wants to give them in a relationship with a husband or a wife how beautiful are The Dwelling Places of God God lives in you every one of you is a glory

every one of you is a beauty every one of you is something to be cherished it's every one of you is somebody worth so much Jesus died for you you are beautiful you are glorious don't ever throw the glory away I hope you can see the Adoration and gratitude that I have for my wife's Glory you understand that 54 years of knowing that glory for me [Applause] See okay let's close the prayer s them God him once in a while no she does all the time I'm kidding let stand thank you Lord for rediscovering to

us the glory that we are for resurrecting to us the glory of Christian marital sex forgive us as a people Lord for allowing that to be drowned in smut in our society forgive us as a people for allowing the world the TV the movies the Novels to depict sex as something that's just animaling and having no glory to it and no sacredness Lord resurrect in our own Hearts A cherishing for the glory of the gift you have given when you created US male and female to enjoy each other Lord Jesus resurrect that Lord for everyone

here who has guilt about what they have done in relation to their children are not done let your forgiveness be there and reinstall Wisdom and enable us to speak appropriately with our children thank you for all those that have modeled to their children what righteousness really is by the way they live together we bless you and Praise You Lord Lord we pray for each one for forgiveness for all the ways that we have sulled who we are for pornography for lust particularly for those who have been hooked on porn on the Internet Lord loose us

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