Hermes Agent Masterclass: 7. Cron & Automation

Welcome to module 7 of my Hermes Agent Masterclass, and this one is going to be on Cron and automation. Very big topic. A lot of interest in automation.

And Hermes Agent makes it really easy, and there's a lot of different options for ways to create automations. So, module 6 was everything Hermes can do, right? The tool catalog, MCP, the service you can scope and trust, but every one of those things still needed you in the loop.

You opened a chat, you typed, the agent did the work. So, today we really cut the last cord. Cron lets Hermes run itself on a schedule in a fresh session, and deliver the result to your phone.

So, this is what we're going to go through today. Uh we're going to talk about how Cron actually runs, the gateways, the fresh sessions, the schedule, four ways to schedule, and how to deliver anywhere, spend nothing. There's a lot of really interesting cost-saving features inside Hermes Agent when it comes to Cron jobs.

So, we'll be exploring those, and I'll be doing some demos with them. Uh and then chain using context from to wire jobs into a pipeline. So, this is for more simple agentic workflows, but it does work very smoothly.

And I'll also be demoing that. And that'll be part of this uh build we're going to be doing, a daily traffic briefing delivered to Telegram. So, hopefully by the end of this video, you have a good understanding of what Cron jobs are, and the different ways you can use them to customize your agentic workflows.

And most importantly, I'm going to try to spend this whole video not pronouncing Cron as Crone, which is something I did in earlier videos, and I got many comments correcting it. Some reason my brain wants to just pronounce that word Cron job. Well, the correct pronunciation is Cron job.

So, please wish me luck during this video, as hopefully I get to the end without mispronouncing it. Let's get started. And if you like this video, please consider supporting the channel by joining team garage, which will give you early access to videos, or team garage max, where you will get exclusive videos each week, as well as many other perks.

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So, cron in Hermes is not a separate program. It lives inside the gateway, the same always-on process from module two, that keeps your agent reachable. Once a minute, that gateway ticks the scheduler.

So, you can see here, this is the flow. Every 60 seconds, the gateway wakes, checks each job's next run time, and for anything that's due, it starts a fresh agent session. A clean room, no chat history, it runs the prompt to completion, uh delivers the final response to whatever channel you've set it up as, and then archives the output to a disk.

Then it goes back to sleep for another minute. So, the single most important thing in this slide is this, that the gateway must be running. It's the heartbeat.

Like I said, in module two, I showed you how to use gateway uh Hermes gateway install to make it a service, so that it survives reboots, and there's a grace window that catches up a job missed during a short restart. So, roughly half the job's interval. But, if the machine is off all night, um the 9:00 a.

m. the 9:00 a. m.

job is simply skipped. So, for example here, I'm in uh terminal. You can see I'm in WSL.

I did Hermes cron status. And you can see the gateway is not running, so cron jobs will not fire. So, that's what you need uh to know, just to confirm that.

Uh but you see, I started Hermes' Gateway. The Gateway started up and in a different terminal I did the same thing, Hermes' cron status. There you go.

The Gateway is running. Uh, no active jobs on this specific agent. But let's change that.

Let's add some cron jobs. So there's several different ways you can uh, schedule cron jobs with your agent. One is simply through the CLI using Hermes uh, cron create, list, pause, resume, run, remove, and status like you just saw.

That's just a standalone command. And that's really uh, useful for scripts. Two is probably the easiest, right?

Is just in the chat. And this is quite simple. This is in Telegram itself.

This is with Bowls. You may remember the winner of Agent Royals uh, Agent Trenches Royale season 1. And this is the agent and the Telegram bot that I have connected to that WSL Hermes.

So I can just very simply So I simply say, "Can you create a cron job checking Hugging Face papers for interesting papers about agent harnesses and delivering me a daily report summarizing your findings at 10:00 a. m. ?

" So this is obviously the easiest way you can do it, right? Just simply telling your agent uh, what you want to do. And there you go.

Very quickly the cron job is set up. Um, So that's just that's through the agent actually. And then the chat version, let me show you that.

You're just in the TUI here. You can do cron and you see manage schedule task. There's several sub commands here.

You can list them, add them, create them, edit, pause, resume. So like let's just list. And you can see the one that I just added in the in the chat itself.

So you could also create them directly here by by doing this create. And then you'd say whatever you want it to do over here. So there's actually a fourth way, which is if you do Hermes dashboard, and then you have the the web dashboard open.

Uh you can go to the side here to cron, and then you can see the scheduled job that we just did, right? And then we can do you can even do create here uh to create a custom cron job right from the dashboard. And you can actually choose which profile the cron job is under, which is really really useful.

Um you could have different cron jobs with different like models and different skill sets. Um name it with the prompt is, you know, say what do you want it to do. You can schedule it however often you want to do it, choose to deliver it locally, uh or to Telegram, which is the one I have set up right now.

And these are all optional skills you can use. So pretty uh useful. So you can create it that way.

They also have blueprints right here, which are really useful. Like these are a lot of the jobs that people often want, like morning briefing, which is kind of like a classic cron job that people use as an example, um uh reminder, weekly review, topic news digest, a lot of templates here that just are easy. You can just one click set these up.

Hydration and movement nudge. Could all use that. So those are actually the four ways uh you can create cron jobs with Hermes agent.

Very They make it very easy, as you can see. And there is this safety rail that they have in place. A cron run session cannot create more cron jobs.

So Hermes disables the scheduling tool inside a cron executions, and that's deliberate. It stops the job from spawning jobs that spawn jobs and ends up, you know, in runaway loops. So keep that in mind as you're doing this.

So quickly, obviously if you're just doing it with natural language chatting, you can just say, you know, the duration or interval um that you want it to to be. I you saw me right there saying every day at 9:00 a. m.

I want my cron job delivered, but you can do um duration. So, you could say, I want it to fire once after 30 minutes or so. It's kind of put that puts it on a timer, right?

Interval, which is a recurring, you can see in the dashboard as well under schedule it has this interval. You can select the interval every 30 minutes, every 60 minutes, whatever you have. They also have daily, weekly, and monthly.

They have once. And this is important. This is a like a cron scheduler format.

And you can see it here in the dashboard under custom cron expression. And this is the five-field cron expression. And you're going to use this if you're not using like a natural language.

Uh you're going to want to try to use this format. And the when you're speaking to it like you just saw with natural language, the LM just reformats it into this format on its own. Like if I look at this is the job I just made, right?

You could see the schedule is based on that same format. So, it kind of translated what I said, which is 10:00 a. m.

every morning uh to that format. Okay, part two about scheduling and delivery. Uh creating a job, you just saw a couple of examples of that.

And we have that hugging face papers cron job we just created. So, now you can deliver it anywhere. This is really flexible and can be really powerful.

So, origin sends it back where the job was created. So, that's the default on messaging platforms. If we look back at my job here in the dashboard, you can see where it is it delivered to origin.

Cuz I created it in Telegram. So now Boles will deliver it back to me in Telegram. So local writes to files only.

That's the default when you do it on the CLI. You could also specify which messaging platform you want to do if you want it to be Telegram. If you want it to be a specific chat in Telegram.

Like I have this Hermes HQ Telegram group. I can have it specifically um deliver to one of these threads if I just put in the chat ID. And of course if I have the the group enabled and on the allow list.

And you can also combine these if you want it in multiple places. Say you want to deliver it in Telegram and Discord. You just use a comma.

And then this all uh just sends it to every channel that you've had configured. And important to note that the agent's final response is delivered automatically. You do not call send message in the cron prompt for the main delivery.

In fact if you do, Hermes will dedupe it automatically. So just write the answer, the schedule will ship it to you. And then this is a interesting feature as well using silent.

Say nothing when there's nothing. So if you have the response output uh use this keyword silent the delivery is suppressed. So the cron job will still fire, just won't deliver anything to the channels.

So this is used often with monitoring. Here's a good example. Um if everything's healthy, reply with only silent, which means the job will will not be delivered.

But if the job itself fails, um it's going to deliver regardless of this using silent. So now the single most common cron mistake and it follows straight from the fresh session design. You have to keep in mind that every run starts from zero.

So a bad prompt, a bad cron job is something ambiguous like check on that server issue. Perhaps you have been working on a server issue in a previous session, but this is a fresh session that has no memory of what that is. So, to this cron job, that server issue just doesn't mean anything.

This is a good prompt, you know, SSH into this IP as deploy, check NGINX with systemctl status, verify um you know, example. com returns 200. So, that is everything it needs, very specific instructions, and it's all in the prompt.

It doesn't require any kind of knowledge of other sessions at all. So, everyone starts from zero. The prompt plus its attached skills are the entire briefing.

If the job needs more context than that, you feed it deliberately. And there are three tools to do that. You can use a pre-run script, a work directory, it opens a repo, uh or using context from that pipes in another job's output.

And I'm going to introduce all three of these before the end. And that will bring us to part three, spend nothing. And this is kind of the most interesting part to me, cuz I don't like to spend a lot of money.

This is really a differentiator from Hermes Agent. Um if you have a naive check every 5 minutes job, you're paying for the full model turn every 5 minutes forever, whether anything happened or didn't happen. So, Hermes gives you several ways to pay zero until something actually does.

So, this is the bluntest lever, no agent mode. Cuz sometimes a scheduled job doesn't need a language model at all. It just needs a script, and the script is the message.

In this cron job, the schedule will run the script on a schedule, and deliver its standard output verbatim. So, this doesn't require any model, no provider, no tokens, ever. This is a In my example here, this is for watching RAM.

Very simple script that just checks how much RAM is available on your machine. And you can see how it's created here with every 5 minutes. It's going to use no agent, which is the key tag here.

And then it's going to run this script, which is the RAM watcher, and it's going to deliver to Telegram. And this is the script itself. Very simple.

If RAM memory is over 85%, then you're going to echo a warning. So, this is going to be delivered verbatim, right? So, say if RAM is at 90% for some reason, um then it's going to echo this exact phrase, this warning, RAM at 90% delivered to my Telegram.

So, empty output just means it's a silent tick. A non-zero exit gets you an error alert. So, a a broken watchdog can't fail quietly.

So, this is very useful for tasks like this that don't really require an LLM. It just requires a very simple script where the input and the output are deterministic. So, you want to use no agent uh when the message is fully determined by the script, right?

Heartbeats, disk and memory alerts, CI pings, you know, is the service working? The script already knows the exact text to send. There's nothing for the model to think about.

So, you shouldn't be paying for that. So, the next example, example two, is the $0 gate. And I'm going to show you a real demo of this, of setting this up.

Uh but let me first explain what it is. So, in this case, you do want the model's reasoning, but only when there's something to reason about. So, that's the weak agent gate, and it's the technique that I think can be really useful for a lot of people.

So, similar to no agent, it's going to be uh using a script. And the script runs every tick cheaply with no model. It just checks some kind of state.

And if nothing changed, it prints wake agent false and the agent is skipped, cost you nothing. But if something did change and you do need the agent, um it'll print wake agent true plus a a context blob and the agent will wake up already knowing what's changed. So, this is the thing to keep in mind, right?

The script runs constantly and costs nothing to run alone. The agent runs rarely and does the expensive reasoning. So, you can pull for every 2 minutes for free and then you only pay for the model the moment state actually moves.

So, the three common um gates for this are if a certain file changed, if an external flag got dropped, or a count in your database went up. So, let me show you this as a real demo and this is real. I'm going to be setting this up right now.

This is my app agent wikis for my knowledge bases. Here's the Hermes agent knowledge base, uh which ironically I used to create this video. Uh but you can see up here I have remor uh report a mistake.

And this is just a simple report. You click on it and you can just report what is wrong in whatever page you're looking at um because I'm still working on the the knowledge bases and the the workflows, so there could be some issues with it. And this allows the users to to tell me when there's a problem.

So, they just put in the message, um they put in their email if they want to, and then just send the report. And what [snorts] this does is it sends it to a log that I have on the VPS where I run this app, and I also have a Hermes agent there. Okay, so first things first, I created the the bug watch Python script.

And this is the main script the cron job's going to be calling. Um I had it originally written out for Windows. Um so, I had the agent this VPS is on a Linux machine.

Um, on the operating system. So, it had to change a few things. But, it created this Python script.

So, now we're going to create the And the the script itself just basically checks the log to see if there's any new entries and um, you could see um, the output because there's nothing in that uh report right now. The the output was wake agent false. So, now that the script is done, uh, I need to make the cron job.

Okay, so the prompt for this, I'm going to just do this in the chat. You can also do this from the CLI, it might be easier. And you want to be very specific with it, um, cuz this cron job uh, requires certain things.

So, this is going to be the prompt I'm giving it right now. Schedule a recurring cron job for me. Don't run it now, just create it.

Name bug triage. Schedule every 2 minutes. Pre-run script bugwatch.

py, which we already did. Um, it already exists in the scripts directory. Um, the work directory uh, enable these tool sets, deliver to Telegram.

And the job's prompt exactly uh, a new bug or factual error report was submitted on agent wikis. Details are in the script context. And this is the pre-run script, right?

This is in the case where we get a new entry and it's going to give you that context back. And verify whether it's a genuine bug or factual error, investigate the repo, and research the web if it's a factual claim. Uh, if it's real, send me a short triage report plus a proposed fix plan.

Do not change any code. If it does not hold up, reply only with silent. So, this is going to be the case where if somebody uh, submits a a mistake, but it actually doesn't hold up to the agent's investigation, um, using silent here means that it just won't deliver this report to me because it won't be anything that actually needs to be fixed.

But just for this test, um I'm going to change this to uh new bug not verified. Uh just for this demo so you can see uh see the report come through Telegram. So, I will give that right in the chat here with Hermes.

Okay. There you go. Created the recurring cron job for me.

This is what it is. And we can see double-checking here in the Telegram. Asking Admiral, what are your current cron jobs?

And you can see he has the bug triage one. So, now it's going to pull every 2 minutes and because there's nothing in the report right now, and hopefully we don't get any natural ones in the next couple minutes, you'll be able to see that nothing gets printed to the Telegram. Uh nothing gets printed to the TUI.

But then I'm going to actually report a mistake, and we're going to see see this in action. Okay. I went to get a coffee.

Couple minutes have passed, so I asked it how Can you check how many times this job has fired and the output? Uh my agent responded, it fired two times. Um it's only been Yeah, like 5 minutes.

So, it did record the output here. The script gate returned wake agent false, so the agent was skipped and both times. So, it's only run the um the bug watch.

py gate found no reports and skipped waking the agent both times. So, this all cost me zero. As the agent was never woken up.

And it's really good. Um obviously, you can run this. I'm running this every 2 minutes.

So, it allows you to monitor that frequently instead of like a cron job where if you're if you're using uh LM calls every 2 minutes, you're quickly going to run into cost issues. Uh but let's let's actually fire it. Let it Let it actually work and see what we got.

Okay. So, this isn't a mistake, but um Hermes A is in just announced an integration with the official Unreal Engine MCP. Not a mistake, but information that is not in it cuz it literally just got announced.

So, I'm going to send that report. Thanks for the report. You're welcome.

You can see after a couple minutes the cron job did fire here. This is in Admiral. Uh, verified this looks like a genuine factual staleness bug.

Uh, does not mention Unreal Engine. It is So, what is was able to verify that it is a real bug. Not really a bug, but just it just came out like an hour ago.

So, the current upstream evidence supports the report. Um, they checked the Hermes agent repo. So, it has a commit titled uh add Unreal Engine MCP.

So, here's the proposed fix plan. Just, you know, add a new raw source and then update the MCP integration wiki. So, this is all done autonomously.

All using this wake agent feature that Hermes has. So, I can run this every 2 minutes pulling. Doesn't cost me anything as long as there's no new reports.

And if there are new reports, then that's when I do want an agent working on it. It can do all of this uh without me prompting it. You know, it's all set up in the cron job for it to do the research, verify the report, and then give me a proposed fix plan that I can easily just say, "Yep, go fix it.

" And in fact, if you really trusted your agent and had this workflow really ironed out perfectly, you could actually have them implement the fix um itself. Like make all these changes, add to the file, but still not quite fully trusting. I still want to have a little bit of myself in the loop here.

But maybe one day I'll trust Admiral enough to do that. There's two more cost layers and they're basically the same idea. You push work off the expensive model onto free code.

So on the left here, you can see the pre-run script again. Uh, but this is kind of in its plain form. Beyond the wake decision, uh, scripts output gets injected into the prompt as, uh, just context.

So you do the deterministic dat- data gathering. You can pull an RSS feed, hit an API, query a database in Python for free. Uh, and the model only has to summarize what the script already fetched.

So you don't make the agent burn tool calls fetching data that, uh, simple script can just hand back. So this is a very easy, uh, workflow that can save you a lot on tokens. And on the right here in the blue, enable tool sets, and we talked a little bit about this in the previous module, but you can set the tool surface per job.

So like a tiny fetch the news job does not need, you know, MOA, browser delegation in its tool schema, and that kind of context bloat can cost extra for every single call that you have. If we just pin it to like web and file, uh, the model see- sees a clean, cheap, focused surface uh, without, you know, wasting time and tokens on dealing with those other tools. So both levers really do the same thing.

They push work off the expensive model onto the free code. This is the last part of part three, resilience, and it's free uh, because you already did the work in module five, if you remember. The cron jobs inherit your fallback providers, if you remember that from the models, uh, video.

So rate limit or a server error uh will just result in the next provider instead of completely failing the run. They inherit your credential pool rotation. A throttled key rotates it to the next one.

And you could pin a cheap model per job for a routine digest. And you can keep a heavy model for the work that needs it. And you could do this like I showed you before, you can do per profile cron jobs.

So, if a profile has a a specific model, uh you're going to be able to do this a lot easier. So, part four, chain. You can wire jobs into a pipeline without any like larger multi-agent workflow.

So, here how this is how it works. Um and it all comes from this context from feature. And context from prepends an upstream job's most recent completed output to this one prompt.

Each stage on its own schedule. So, here's kind of an example of how it works. Say you have one cron job that collects raw data, right?

Then you have job two that takes the context from job one and runs a triage. It scores and ranks it. And then job three, you can take the context from job two and then ship it to Telegram.

Now, this is a fairly uh simple example. But you could see how you could use the these different segments to create more complicated pipelines as well. So, that's the production pipeline.

Each stage is just a prompt, and the schedule is the orchestration, and the output archive is the message bus. So, you get three prompts and two context from links to form a real pipe pipeline without any framework. Um So, as I say here, this is many runs over time.

Many agents at once is in uh module eight. So, look forward to that next week. So, let's build this out.

Uh I'm going to show you here a daily briefing also based on agent wikis. And try to imagine what kind of pipelines you can build for your own life. So, this is just going to be two different jobs I'm going to be chaining together.

And this is what's going to be collect a no agent script, which we I just told you about before, no agent. Uh the script just logs the most checked knowledge base counts every hour. So, this should be zero, no model cuz it's just checking a script uh that already exists.

And then a daily briefing using context from the collector. And before I start just to kind of address a question that a lot of you might have, like why don't you just have job one be the agent um does the research and writes a report and then job two has the agent then read that report and then do whatever analysis you want. Why do you even need this context from uh feature?

And when I first read this, um I had that kind of same question. But to answer it, um this kind of setup using context from from, it takes the handoff out of the LLM's hands, and this is really important. With those two manual jobs, you [clears throat] you're going to have two non-deterministic agents being responsible for the wiring.

So, job one, the agent has to remember to write the file to the exact right path in the format that job two expects. And then you have job two, the agent has to remember to read that exact path. So, either agent can mess that up.

I think we've all experienced that, agents writing to the wrong path, wrong workspace, and just not exactly following instructions. So, with this setup with context from, Hermes does the read and prepend at runtime, not the model. So, the data handoff becomes a guaranteed pipeline instead of two prompts you're hoping that the agents will will follow.

And especially important if you're using models that are not necessarily frontier models. And another kind of advantage, and this is a minor one, but the job two doesn't need file tools in this case. The report already arrives in their context window.

So, they don't need to use read file call. There's no file tool set that they need to enable. And it's one fewer tool round trip, one fewer thing that can go wrong, which with these workflows, simpler is better.

And you also get uh fan in for free. So, you can actually use multiple uh jobs. So, say instead of just one cron job to start, you have three different ones collecting different reports from different places.

You can actually use context from with a comma in between the jobs. So, they can gather context from multiple previous upstream cron jobs easily. If you're doing that manually, you're going to hope that the agent reads all these different files from these different jobs and manages all those different paths.

So, having it directly delivered to context obviously makes things uh a lot more error-proof. But, just want to explain that a little bit more in detail. So, you can see the first thing, I'm going to set up the first job here.

Can create a cron job with no agent script that checks the most viewed wikis in agent wikis each hour. Okay, so I created the cron job. You can see the mode is no agent.

So, it's just running this script, right? And the script will just pull all of the um the top wikis. You can see the ones that we have for today so far.

Hermes and hyperframes on top, agent workflows, Llama CPP and Claude code. Some good traffic today. So, the second one, uh like I said, it's going to be a daily briefing, which is going to pull context from that job.

Uh it's going to rank the top knowledge bases and also try to analyze when knowledge bases are being read more, because this is an hourly job it's pulling from. And then it's going to write up a little brief for me. And then it will simply deliver it to me in Telegram.

Um there's going to be a wake agent gate that skips zero traffic days. I shouldn't have any of those, but you can add that. And silent if there's nothing notable.

You can also make it lean if you have a cheap model pinned and used enabled tool sets equals file. You see the prompt I did for the second one. I said uh so I want you to create a second cron job using context from uh this job, the previous job I told it to make.

It takes the output and analyzes the top wikis from that day plus any hourly trends. Give me a tidy report delivered in Telegram each morning at 9:00 a. m.

And you could see it created the job. We have our second job. This is going to be a daily one.

Delivery to Telegram. And you can see right here uses context from this, which is the ID of previous cron job. This is kind of the chain put in simpler terms, right?

Number one is a pure script, no LM runs hourly. Pulls the data. And then number two is a daily uh cron job and it's fed by job one's latest output, the latest context using context from.

And that'll be delivered to my Telegram. So two jobs with one context from link. And the nice thing is that it should cost very little.

Um the hourly collector is zero cuz there's no model, right? It's a no agent script. The only thing that is running is that daily brief, one fairly cheap LM term and only if there's traffic cuz you can use wake agent to skip this entirely if there's light traffic or no traffic on the site and you don't need a report.

So I don't know if it'll be 1 cent, but it will be fairly cheap. Um especially this job doesn't require crazy reasoning, so you could use a very cheap model for it or even like a local model. So, this is the workflow.

Um, it runs every day, all day, collects its data for free, and only spends a cent writing the part a human reads. Okay, so you can see here it's been a couple hours since I I last talked and uh, the hourly cron that we set up is working fine. So, I'm just going to trigger the the daily report one just so you could see what it looks like.

So, I'm just going to trigger it right now and we will see hopefully in Telegram the report. Okay, so you can see this is what was delivered in Telegram. Um, has the overall wikis for the day.

And this is only a couple hours data, so it's a little bit different. You can see the notable hourly trends. Um, there was a spike mostly in Google Ads, so somebody may have been doing research with that one.

Um, then at 2:00 uh, it mostly cooled down and then it rebounded led by Claude code, so Take Away traffic is up strongly versus yesterday. Uh, growth is concentrated in Hermes hyperframes and you could see. Um, so that uses the context from the previous job to send me this analysis on a daily basis.

Be it on module 7 of my Hermes agent masterclass about cron and automation. Or at least the simplest version of automation. Uh, we learned how cron works, the gateway tick, fresh isolated sessions, and the different ways you can create them.

We learned about how to schedule them, how to deliver them, and using silent. Talked a lot about the zero cron, um, saving your LM usage to when you really need it by using no agent, by using the wake agent gate, uh, pre-run scripts, and lean tool sets. Uh, we just saw context from chaining jobs into a pipeline with no kind of underlying framework just using context from to have the context from a previous job or several jobs injected directly into the context where a a downstream cron job.

And you watched me set up the daily Asian Wiki's traffic briefing delivered to Telegram for yeah, maybe a cent, maybe a little bit more, but not much every day. So that's it for module 7 and module 8 is a very exciting one. It's about sub agents.

This is another kind of topic that is related to automation, but cron runs one agent on a clock. Next we're going to run many agents all at once and using delegation, isolated context, parallel work. We're also going to be taking a look at the Kanban board.

Cron stretched a pipeline across time. Sub agents fanned it out across workers. So together they're two halves of getting it more done without you in the loop.

So look forward to that next week. This is going to be the end of this video. Please leave a comment.

Let me know your thoughts on cron jobs and what you have set up. What kind of task are you using with cron jobs? You have any cool pipelines that you're doing?

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