Biblical Geologist: God, Technology, Aliens & Human Origins | Gregg Braden

[Music] Thanksgiving can you believe this guy this guy was nice enough to fly all the way here from New Mexico the day before Thanksgiving and you're be on a airplane for Thanksgiving day will you be back in time for dinner no I'm going to get home late my wife's going to have a wheel for me though she's going to have she's going to have a meal for me I think you are worth it and I think this planet is Worth it and I think the people of this world are worth this convers ation and that's

why I felt it was important to have conversation you do a really great job at communicating stuff of the some of the stuff that you talk about and you cover a wide wide swath of topics from religion to spirituality to all I mean I just like when I start diving down your YouTube channel I can't stop can can I can I tell you a story about that yeah I was doing a uh from home I was doing a Remote uh early morning talk show with a station in in New York City commuter I won't I

won't name the station and um the guy came on in the morning and it was 6 a.m. for me it was 8 8: a.m. for him no good morning welcome Greg thanks for do the show or nothing uh he came on the first thing he said he goes why can't you stick with one topic like everybody else and I thought it was a joke I thought it was kidding and I said I said excuse me he Said man he said you're all over the map are you talking about planetary magnetics you're talking about ancient civilizations

DNA you know geomagnetic anomalies what are you talking about then I knew he was serious and I said well I said we do cover a lot of ground but if you look closely every one of those facets is just that is a Piece One Piece of a single picture and it's a story of us it's us and our relationship to our bodies and the world so in a very Real sense I am sticking with one topic it's just a big topic and he said let's go to station break and he never came back what that

was the end when was this it was it was a couple years ago wow it was before Co that's wild yeah it was wild so so you know for a lot of people um we tend to zero in on one facet of our relationship to the world sometimes we get really hung up in that one facet um because we're trained to think that way Danny we're trained to Compartmentalize our world we we break the world down in the the world of science I'm trained as a scientist and and I was trained to think in terms

of geology and bi biology and chemistry and physics yeah we we do that uh to make it comfortable for us to study the world but the truth is the world doesn't know about those boundaries and where you really really begin to take a deep dive and a deeper understanding of what this world is about is when you cross those Traditional boundaries that separated the Sciences in the past uh I've lost a lot of credibility doing that the minute that I started talking about spiritual tradition as a scientist my credibility went right out the door and

you know it's okay I'm I'm not concerned about that because uh I'm not working in the corporations any longer I don't need that kind of validation from my peers whatever time I have in this world I think it's I think it's a healthy thing For us to do to understand who we are and our potential uh what it means to be a human in this world because we are now on the cusp on the precipice of giving our humanness away to technology and that's what the the new book's all about and I think that's where

we're going to go today but uh we do cover a lot of ground to to make that point but it's really one one topic one conversation and it's about us Danny and It's it's because we're absolutely not what we've been told and we're so so much more than we've ever been led to believe what what motivated you and pushed you in this direction to be interested in this stuff in the first place and to become this sort of like public figure around all these different ideas these crazy kind of uh you know a lot of

them are kind of like woo woo type of things I mean you're on Ancient Aliens right I've done History Channel Hist Channel stuff like that and they're known for being kind of like out there well let me tell you how that happens you know you film or I film for one Discovery Channel special for example or history or PBS Nova or something like that and they take that footage from that particular segment and they will slice that up and then you'll see sections of that ending up in other other documentaries that that they produce that

they produce I had no idea That I was going to be in those sometimes they slice it up in a way that looks like I'm supporting some things that I actually don't support and um so we have to be very uh Discerning about how you know how the information is used so so like what is your background and how did you get into this stuff in the first place the easy questions first you know I um you know the the way that question often comes about is Greg how did you Make a Quantum Leap what

many people perceive is a Quantum Leap from the world of of Science and Technology into what we're talking about now and I I guess for me it was less of a leap and and more of a a progression I mean I I was not a normal kid that I now looking back I've been told that um because I began studying ancient civilizations I was four and five years old and the solar system and I I was blessed uh I had my mom supported me she Didn't understand everything I was doing but she supported me and

she believed in me and that that became important later in life and I I'll talk to you about that but she memorized all the planets of the solar systems with me and all the the Egyptian kings and all the names of the dinosaurs you know and all all those things so uh I knew I would probably be a scientist of of some kind uh but I didn't know exactly what that would look like uh the flip side of that is I'll Just share with you you're asking the question I'm I'm the product of very dysfunctional

abusive alcoholic family my father was the abuser um my mom and I have a younger brother four years younger my mom and my brother and I got the bad end of that and uh and he left when I was 10 and our family went through the remaining members of our family three of us went through a really hard time uh financially I mean we were more than Than we live in government subsidized housing we were more than broke I lied about my age in an early age went to work in a a Copper Mill making

union wages in um northern Missouri wow and uh was really proud to be able to bring home a solid paycheck you know to help our our family I was a union job worked uh 4:00 p.m. to 4:00 a.m. and then had to go to school the next morning so it was uh I learn I learned to be a night person early which is has really helped Me it's really served me in my life but the day my dad left my mom didn't know exactly what that was going to mean but she knew we were going

to have a hard time and in her wisdom uh I I say her past tense I lost mom in uh in 20 to 21 to co December of 20 so uh so in her wisdom of knowing that we were about to face some hard times she gave me a book the day my dad left and I know some of our viewers know this book very Well maybe you do it's called The Prophet by khil gabron it is it's a classic it was um he was a a Lebanese poet early in the 20th century every chapter

is like a page page and a half long but that's just right to the point and there was one chapter in that book that that stuck with me to this very day it's at the bottom of every email that I send out um and it is a mantra that I use every single day and what he said is That work is love made visible work is love made visible if you're going to do something in the world if you say yes to it then do it and do it really really well not from your fear

of what happens if you don't and not from the anger of doing something you don't want to do but change your thinking to make that your love made visible and that's a very different way of approaching work I I went to work in factories surrounded by People that really hated what they were doing and did the minimal they could do to get by so one of my first jobs for example I would load uh from uh midnight to 6:00 a.m. on this particular job we would load box cars with 50 lb bags of Purina uh

cat catchow it was and those box to the trains would leave in the morning and um you know distribute those wherever they they had to go man I was surrounded with guys just hated that job and my body's always been really Important to me and I said you know if I do this right love made visible if I do this right if I lift this just right man these 50 PB bags it's a really good quad workout and then if I shift that and lift upper body man I'm going to have a good upper body

workout I'm going to work eight hours I'm going to have a good workout I'm going to get paid for it it's it's a very different way of thinking MH but um but that ethic has been with me uh all of my Life and I um I had two experiences when I was uh when I was 13 I went to my first rock concert Jefferson Airplane and the lead singer was a woman named Grace Slick and I sat on the front row and I yelled at Grace Slick and told her I loved her and she completely

ignored me completely blew me off but here's what happened in that room there 30,000 people in that little this A small Stadium indoors and I saw their souls being moved by what happened on that stage then we left and people wanted to have that feeling again but they couldn't get it without having something outside of themselves to replicate the experience in that period of time it was a vinyl album or or an eight track tape is what we were using not long after that I had another opportunity to go to an outdoor stadium 70,000 people

and there was a man named Billy Graham uh an evangelist so I wasn't so much into the message but what I saw inspired me because he spoke to 70,000 people and when they left they didn't need anything outside of them to hold the feeling because his words touched them in just the right way that something inside of them changed the way they felt about themselves and they were different when they left hm and I recognized that at 13 Years old and I said there's got to be a way maybe to combine those so I tried

uh as a musician for for a period of time early in my life and learned that I don't want to be a musician on the road um but the words the words became very very powerful to me and I knew that in at an early age in some way I would use words to express my love made visible My Love for this world my love for the people Of this world and especially now we're going through a really difficult time it's um it's a convergence of many cycles of change it it doesn't last forever but

it's a rare and precious moment in the history of our planet when we have the opportunity to make choices and decisions that will forever determine our lives and and our fate or our destiny and that's our choice Destiny of living our potential or our fate of succumbing to the dark Ness to The fear that we have and I I recognize that at an early age so uh my first degree is Nurse scientist I'm a degreed geologist it gave me a strong background in life sciences as well biology I actually were here in Florida I went

to school at fit over in oh really at that time Orlando well the campus was in Melbourne the main campus Florida Institute of Technology I was on a satellite campus in a little town called Jensen Beach I don't know if I'm with Just outside of Stewart okay yeah yeah and uh a really strong background in math physics computer science ocean Sciences Marine geology and then I transferred to terrestrial geology at Colorado State University and uh and that was um where I I finished in in Denver Colorado and began working in in the corporations at that

time and it was a petroleum company well you know you can't make this stuff up I it was Phillips petroleum is now Kico Phillips uh same you know company's merge oh wow uh but I happened to be there at just the right time when computers were coming into into Vogue computers at that time they filled an entire room they were big mag mag tape Sy what year was that that was 78 78 79 yeah and I remember my first well I tell you I remember the the first day I walked on the job was when

the Iranian Hostage Crisis began 1979 so sticks in My mind during that time and they cut off the oil from the Middle East and so the petroleum companies were trying to to create we had no reserves and all of our oil was coming out of the Middle East I I I don't know I'm I know you don't remember this was one of the few times our nation has actually rationed uh gasoline and we were rationed to 10 gallons per vehicle per week and this is the this is the age of muscle cars that's crazy 70s

yeah 10 and 10 gallons Didn't go very far so I happened to to be in the industry when these they were using computers in ways they'd never used before uh and I was a computer geologist I was doing subsurface subsurface mapping uh of energy in this case it was in North Slope Alaska is where where we're working trying to find that that black gold yeah and uh and so I learned a lot self-taught in the computer I could walk in to my company on a weekend Mhm and because I had a you know security pass

I could go into a computer room and there were all the computers of the day that were there and all I had to do is read a manual and learn how how to program these computers there were cdc's and deck and IBM there was no Microsoft at that time there were no macintoshes OS iOS at that time Fortran was the main computer language uh Tran for Tran o r t r n it was for Tran 4 and then fortran77 uh so although I was an an earth Scientist with a strong background in math physics computer

science and uh and ocean science the computer science is where I really excelled in those jobs and they wanted to transfer me to Saudi Arabia I didn't want to go uh and so I left and and took the computer expertise uh and applied for a a position with a A company that explored the stars and the planets it was called Martin maretta Aerospace at that time and they hired me But it was during the Cold War and said well you've got a job but we need your expertise this cold war on the defense side of

the house we want you to to be a programmer and I was a senior computer systems designer for Martin maretta and I'm saying this is this this going to be important in this conversation because it gave me insight into some of the most Advanced Technologies at that time and even even today I mean Advanced laser Systems computer systems radar systems Everything and what I began to realize because of my background and biology is that all the stuff I was seeing built around us as as cool as it was I have yet to this day to

see any technology outside of us that doesn't mimic what we already do in the human body except we do it better and that's going to be important when we talk about where we're going here so so it was that path it wasn't uh a Quantum Leap it was a logical Progression that I was developing my understanding of the technology and the science by day by night I was studying and always have since I was since I was 5 years old ancient civilizations ancient texts H uh because I've always believed and and this really and I

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far to doing the unthinkable to to releasing nuclear right weapons on civilian populations and if you look there's no space in between my fingers because that's how close we came the button was actually pushed twice during the Cold War years and twice the technology Failed for reasons that are still mysterious today uh 1983 was the the last time that that uh that the actually Soviet Union former Soviet Union was that the story of the guy that the Russian guy was in the submarine and they told him to they told him to that was another another

story but what what happened was the tensions were so high and the paranoia was so high there was a a uh a flight it was a PanAm flight the Airline used to be called PanAm I mean you can't make this stuff up the flight number was 007 007 all right in 60s and 70s that was the code for a secret agent program 007 you was everybody used to joke about that was that was the flight number for this plane it strayed civilian craft strayed into Russian airspace and the Russians because they couldn't reach the plane

007 they were sure it was a spy plane They shot it down M killed all the civilians one of the civilians was an American congressman so now they have just killed an American Congressman during the Cold War they thought that because they took out our Congressman we were going to retaliate and because of that they thought that they should preempt us and that was when they pushed that button that's how crazy how crazy this stuff is and and it didn't work uh 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis There was a movie that came out it

was called the fog of War and the former Secretary of Defense was a man named Robert mcnamer who who who has since passed and he was being interviewed first time in Cuba since the missile crisis when he was Secretary of Defense and the interviewer asked uh Fidel Castro he was there with Castro they were having a conversation through the translator and the interviewer asked Castro if you had had the nuclear Missiles would you have ever launched against America knowing that America would destroy your country and he he answered and the translator translated that answer and

mcamera said this must be a mistranslation he said ask him again and he asked him again and mn's face went white and he left the room and he came back because the first time during that interview that he learned that Cuba had in fact received the nuclear missiles And that Castro had in fact pushed the button knowing that his Nation would be destroyed he was so angry after the Bay of Pigs invad and all the stuff that happened around that that he was willing to to risk that and the technology failed for for some reason

so so these are very frightening times and it was within that context that I found myself working in this industry let me just I'll just tell you because it wasn't by choice I didn't Wake up in the morning and say Hey I want to go it's astonishing the level of Technology we were able to develop and and Achieve like the the technical technological progression that we were able to do during the Cold War is like unparalleled war war time is typically what pushes the technology because we have unlimited funding and we have uh unlimited human

resources and they are given the license To push this Tech as far as you can as you can push it it's it's an engineer's dream yeah so it was it was within that context that I found myself in this industry and I've always believed that if we know where to look and we know how to look that somewhere in our past those who have come before us left us the clue to to give us the reason to think differently so that we would never have the kinds of Wars again that we're having in the 20th

century and I felt Like it was worth devoting a lifetime to hopefully gain some insight maybe not the whole answer but but our ancestors left knowledge for us some of it were we're only beginning to understand some of it is is is things that we've never seen before it wasn't science in the disciplined way that we see science today but it was knowledge in terms of us our relationship to the world uh and our own bodies and so by night I was doing That and what ended up happening um I was give seminars on the

weekends and I was working in in these corporate positions as a senior computer software designer and and one day our supervisor came in and it was all male you know cubicles it was Air Force we were working with with the Air Force on this stuff and he he'd come in and he have a big soggy cigar in his mouth that couldn't be lit indoors but he had it there anyway you know and he'd say well Man the good news is it's Friday only two working days left until Monday and and we knew when we heard

that it meant we were all working overtime and I said I said I can't I have a room full of a thousand people waiting for a seminar they've already paid for and uh and I've already committed to that and he said Son you have to make a choice do you work for this company or are you working for those people and that was my that was my Pivot Point uh So I I left the corporations not long there were other things that were happening but I left the corporations not long after that wow and began

doing full-time what I had been doing at nights and weekends part-time within the context of a very frightening time in the history of the world uh we are now in another one of those frightening times where there are forces yeah organizations and beings who are pushing us to destroy um destroy ourselves uh It's not good What's happen is not good for humans and we're barreling down the path as I speak to you today uh this is a a very delicate very fragile time in in the history of our world and that's why I think it's

good to have the conversation that we're we're about to have so that was a long answer to a short question but it it wasn't like I I had some deep near-death experience or Spiritual Awakening it was a logical progression and my I think the Multidisiplinary background in so many Sciences has given me the the tools to stay on top of the new discoveries I mean discoveries they are coming so fast right now there are science journals for there's a journal named science there's another one named nature right uh peer-reviewed scientific journals every 30 days so

many discoveries are coming out in between those releases that they can't keep up So now they release new weekly newsletters to keep us informed of the discovery until the the end of the month the big Journal comes out right it's like the floodgates have been opened when we begin thinking uh about I mean everything from the macro the edge of the universe to below the quantum level to understanding genetics in our in our capacities yeah it's uh the time during the Cold War and especially surrounding like the Kennedy assassination and what Was going on inside

the joint chief of staff and the the total nuclear Annihilation they wanted to plan and Kennedy wanting to get in the way and and pull everyone out of Vietnam and how that led to essentially him getting assassinated and the whole cover up behind that I mean that is like there that really showed I think more than ever that there is a deep rot within the United States and the people and the military industrial complex and the People that are behind the scenes what you okay so may maybe this is how we're going to begin this

conversation how deep do you want to go as deep as you want to go I'm I'm ready to go what you're calling that that deep rot yeah is and I I agree with you unless we recognize the context it's very easy to get sucked into the drama of the individual rot like a presidential election or like a war in Ukraine or whatever Financial collapse Banks Collapse you know so let me just begin and you can't make this stuff up I'm going to go back I'm a student of ancient texts as I mentioned and when I

was a kid one of the big Mysteries uh was the Dead Sea Scrolls now they were discovered the first Scrolls were discovered 1946 47 in Kumon I know you've had experts on here that know way more than I do about this so I I apologize if I'm redundant to your apologize I don't know exactly what He said so let me just go over this the the Scrolls were were first found and cave in in Kuman 4647 there 11 caves actually they're still discovering them they're still 2023 they just discovered more yeah more fragments of of

the Scrolls and there's a lot of fakes too another cave yeah but there are caves they continue to excavate these caves uh and and they found more so you you can't make this up it was in cave number one so the first cave and the First vase that they found and these are not little you know right Bell Bell jars I mean these are Big Clay they're bigger than this no they're like they're like this this tall and they were sealed uh with tar in pitch and that's what kept the the Scrolls in the dry

desert environment in the first cave the first scroll that was pulled uh the first vase that was was pulled out and the first scroll that came out of that is the reason that so many of the Scrolls for 45 years there was a legal battle not to release those the translations into the public really and it was not until the early 1990s I I was a member of something called B biblical archaeology Society a lot of people I don't talk about a lot because it doesn't come up but it's relevant here uh hersel Shanks was

the man that headed up the biblical archaeology Society archaeological society and he pushed and legally pushed uh to have the translations released the Vatican was pushing back and a lot of there was a lot of political push back and he very courageously pushed to have these released what could possibly be in the Scrolls that are over 2 200 years old that would warrant holding them from the public for 45 years and the answer was in that first scroll so I'm going to say this and it will be the context for everything we're going to talk

about for the rest of this conversation that Scroll spells out very clearly it's called the war scroll uh 19 column and it spells out very clearly that we continue today we are living an ancient battle that began with the first of our kind the first human that emerged onto this Earth 200,000 years ago 10,000 Generations ago is when we appeared when the first of our kind appeared we were born into an ancient battle that continues to this day and the Very language this is the exact language is a Battle between what is called the Sons

of darkness and the sons of Light I had a program recently and I shared that and there was a woman in the audience who was very offended because she thought it was sexist so what I because they didn't their sons because because of sons and what I I want to say is that the 2500 years ago Sons included men and women they didn't they didn't have the gender conversation going on then that we've we've got going on right now so we are Living these scrolls are the ancient yes the obsolete no we are living right

now the battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of Light and that battle that battle is playing out uh in terms people are more familiar with in terms of what we call Good and Evil now the battle es and flows throughout time the reason that we're seeing the emphasis on so much evil in our our lives and there are different kinds of Evil and we can talk about that is because we're barreling down this path toward a convergence point that has been identified as the year 2030 right so 2030 United Nations has identified

this world economic forum is identified this date there is an event that will happen during that time and what you're seeing is the powers that be jockeying for position to be in the best place and before we get to that point this is why you're seeing a concerted effort for the Remaking of the world and a way that we've never seen before we could do this whole program on on how the proposals are to to remake the world through the UN sustainable goals SG 2030 17 goals in partnership with the WF that's a whole conversation

what sets now apart from any other time we've always had the ability to to change our world you mentioned this because the Technologies advaned so quickly yeah we now have the Ability not only changed the world around us but now to change the world within us and there's a concerted effort to replace our humanness with technology Within These next it's it's been going on but we're going to see a doubling down on this within the next 5 years by the year 2030 what do you mean when you say replace our humanness replace our natural systems

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our immune system RF uh not RF Nanobots circulating in the respiratory system we we have all of this technology now MH and here's the thing it's being Marketed I know it's happening and I'm still in awe of how sexy the marketing is the the way this stuff is being presented to young people espe or to to to grown-ups to adults is that it makes life easier it makes it gives us more security if you got RFID chips in your body you can never get lost can't be trafficked all that's true what is the price that

we're going to pay at what price do we want to bring this efficiency and the speed of this Information that pay processing into our lives so what we're asking is what do we give away when we give away our biology and this is the reason let me just the battle between the Suns of darkness and the Suns of light I'm going to use a word I know we're covering a lot of ground I'm going to bring it all together I'm going to use a word that we haven't used it means different things to different people

so let me use it and then I'll Define it it's a battle for Our bodies for our very humanness Danny because there's something within us that is so ancient and so beautiful and so powerful and so precious that Nations will go to war against Nations to keep us distracted from this essence of ourselves societies will be collapsed climate will be engineered pandemics will be Unleashed lies will be told all those things are important but They are distractions they're diversions that are key keeping us keeping us from this Essence this Force the human body is the

link to something that is called our Divinity now Divinity to many people has something to do with religion but the contemporary definition you look look up contemporary definition Divinity it simply is the ability to transcend perceived limitations and that's it right transcend means to become more Than perceived and I love this means we may be living limits in our lives that aren't even true limits that we've been indoctrinated to accept through family Society religion culture science those limits so our ability to be the best version of ourselves is is the goal limiting us from the

ability to be the best version of ourselves limiting us from the ability to heal our own bodies limiting us so what is Divinity Divinity is the Part of us that's Timeless it's ageless it's where our imagination begins it's where our creativity begins it's where our love begins sympathy empathy compassion healing all are functions of human Divinity yeah if the powers that be want to change a world we are much more vulnerable when we lose access to our divinity when we lose access right to our ability to heal our own bodies to our ability to imagine

and communicate what we're imagining and to create and Innovate all of those things so there's a concerted effort right now and I can share with you the science what is it about our biology that that actually links us to that Divinity we can get into that but but I just want to go through this step by step well I see what you're saying it's been a theme on the show with recent guest that we've had on there is obviously something going on with the human body you can see it when you Compare us people living

in metropolitan cities and people that are surrounded by screens all day on inside underneath artificial light Doom scrolling on those dopamine slot machine iPhones that we have all day long getting all of our information from these screens and there's a there's a very clear difference between us and people that are living in the Amazon when you go down there and you're disconnected from all this stuff And you're not surrounded by this artificial light all these non-native emfs all these screens everywhere these blue light screens that are basically hijacking your circadian rhythm you there there's something

inside the body that many people have been on the show and described how it literally quite literally happens to them and it's eye opening where there's these senses that are buried in us that open up once you get out there and you get away from all This civilization and technology and that seems to be suppressed by everything I just talked about it's even more than that that's everything you're saying yes I I lead groups I just finished in 23 I finished my 40 eth 49th tour in 47 years into Peru every year and when I'm

down there with my groups in the the the high andies for a couple of weeks and then we come back and we usually come back through a major population either Miami or Dallas is how We come back the world feels loud and heavy and and you have to really uh adapt to this world once you unplugged from all that but but it goes beyond that and with your permission and I realize I'm talking a lot uh that's a good thing no I want to have this conversation but can I share an experiment it's a it's

a mind-blowing experiment and it illustrates why our body is so important and why our body is The target uh of the evil and this is a form of evil when we are prevented from accessing our Divinity that is a form of evil can you see where where that would be when we are prevented from accessing our body we prevented from accessing our Divinity our when we're prevented from accessing our divinity when you're prevented from ACC evil because there's the evil is the somebody who wants to control Us by blocking us from ourselves Divinity is a

source of our imagination Creativity our love empathy sympathy compassion healing the very essence of our humanness these are the values that we cherish the characteristics that we cherish as a human if those are veiled we're still alive but what kind of beings if we have if and that is a form of biological evil there's psychological evil there's biological evil so let me share this experiment so who's behind this let's let me share this experiment and and I think it'll make more Sense this is when I show this to live audiences it's it's a mindblower so

the the Suk Institute um did this particular experiment it's been replicated by other organizations since then so if we Google this it may come up with some other organizations but it was Northern California at the um the Sal Institute what they did was they took human neurons separate from a body so they put them in a Petri dish so here's here's some cells in a Petri dish not connected To a body okay and they had a special computer chip where they could take uh I think people are familiar when you look at a neuron it's

got little dendrites these little like uh tentacles look like they're coming off the neuron they were able to hook those goes into the port of a computer chip so now you've got a a machine cell interface so you're actually the neuron is actually connected to a a special computer chip all right wow and but it's not connected To a body okay now they took this computer chip and they put put it into a computer that was loaded with a A Primitive video game that came out in 1972 called pong I don't know if you remember

of course pong if our our viewers aren't familiar with it it was just a very primitive like a a tennis game and I remember it's I mean it's so primitive compared to now because we're so sophisticated with this but back then it was the thing I mean People would spend hours playing this game so here's what happened they hooked the the chip into this machine loaded with pong these neurons began playing the game of pong and the longer they played the better they got they were learning so the question there's no human attached how does

a neuron in a Petri dish know how to play the game of pong the answer to that question is why this conversation is so important okay this is the article right here published 2022 I don't know if that's the article that may be an article brain cells in a lab dish learn to play Pong and offer a window onto intelligence a dish of living brain cells has learned to play the 1970s arcade game pong about 800,000 cells linked to a computer gradually learn to sense the position of the game's electronic ball and control the virtual

paddle a team reports in the journal neuron whoa right see even they're they're missing the point Because the question is how does a cell even know to begin to respond to play to play this game right okay so here's the point here's the point they're missing where science has taken a big turn is we've always thought of our bodies as soft sticky gooey wet mushy cells and biological stuff in recent years now scientists are beginning to look at the human body from an IT perspective information technology and the discoveries are not being Published in the

biology text they're coming out in itle E and these obscure engineering journals the Journal of advanced Computing technology that's where they're showing the stud nobody I mean my genre people aren't reading them and and I don't know about our viewers so you're not seeing a lot of this stuff here here is what they found they literally are saying now that human DNA is a fractal antenna what that means fractal antenna It's not just tuned to one thing it is it is tuned to broad spectrum information across a a vast array of of of bandwidths okay

it's not just tuned to one human cells are also antenna human neurons are also antenna all right the antenna and that petri dish the instructions for the pong are not in the neurons the neurons are the antenna the biological antenna that tune to the place the information in the field that underlies all existence the Field that was revealed CERN superconducting super Collider 2012 announced that there is a field under underlying all existence they now acknowledge that like a field of Consciousness well some people call it Consciousness it's information it's a field of information and now

it's a very different way of thinking and I I got to tell you this is not my training I was not trained to think this way I had to cross traditional boundaries and open my Mind to follow the data to where it's leading rather than trying to force the data into a pre-existing story right all right and that's that's important for all of us so the neurons and the petri dish are in communication with a field pong was played by millions of people for so long there is a vibratory Essence held in that field some

spiritual Traditions call the akashic records or you call it the Matrix or The Divine Matrix or the plank vibratory field or The zero point field or whatever you want to call it there's all depending on the application people give it different names the bottom line is that we are a field of it's not out there we are part of that field and the neurons in that petri dish are tuned to the place in the field where pong lives and the longer they play that's how they are able to to get better and better the neurons

in the petri dish are tuned to pong in the field the neurons in our brain and in Our heart and the cells of our body are tuned to the field that holds our divinity when our biology is replaced we no longer have those antenna communicating with that part of the field and we become lost we become frightened we become fearful and we become vulnerable to the control and the agendas of others and this I think you know there's so many ways to to go about this Danny if if people are biblically inclined we've always heard

That the body is the temple uh 1 Corinthians 3 I think it's 3:16 know know ye not that your body is the temple of God that you you that God dwells within your body and people say yeah you know okay cool this is so interesting as an archaeologist studying ancient temples whether it's in the Middle East or it's in you know Asia or Greece or wherever ancient temples when they were built they were always built in in Layers and the innermost sanctum the innermost room was always the place where the greatest wisdom and the highest

knowledge and the deepest secrets were kept it was called the holy of holies in the temples if we are a temple we have not one holy of holies but we have 50 trillion holy of holies because the nucleus of every cell holds the DNA that Tunes us to our Divinity that is our holy of holies does that make sense Makes a lot of sense no we had a gentleman on here the other day who was showing us um he was showing us aerial images of temples of ancient temples and they were shaped like human bodies

mhm yeah I think one of them was in Egypt and I think it one even the Vatican he was explaining how like the aerial image of the Vatican how like the center of it was like a pregnant belly or something anyways well yeah well this is this is the there's an analogy that goes With that so if we and and this is not for everyone because a lot of people don't want to think this way but if you are are biblically inclined we are a temple and within the nucleus of every cell is the DNA

that Tunes us to our Divinity if you don't want to think that way just think from it Information Technology 50 trillion cells in the average human body every one of those cells every one of those cells has an electrical potential 07 volts which is Small but you do the math 50 trillion time 007 it's 3.5 billion volts of pot potential in one body I mean what if you could harness that and apply it to your own healing or to deep Intuition or to Super cognition super memory super learning and we can we can do all

these things but it doesn't stop there because every cell in the body I'm smiling because when I put these pictures in a live audience I've got young people and I I say young you Know Millennials or younger every cell in the body functions as a transistor and a resistor and a Capac F and I put those on the screen and the kids they just like what are those and I said well these are what used to run our televisions radios I'm a musician they used to run my guitar amplifier you know I'd be on stage

at night and the back of the amp was open and we have these big they're called six L6 power tubes that Glowed Violet in the back and it was just so beautiful to see and they say well we've never seen that and then I show them a microprocessor and they say oh we know what those are and I said well every one of these components is on that microprocessor transistors resistors capacitors and they go oh okay okay we're with you so every cell in the body functions as a gated circuit information in information out it's

massaged by Resistors transistors capacitors biologically within the body every cell receives light and we transmit light photons are coming in we're transmitting light is information we're we're pulling information in our body creates U light it creates UV light and I bet our listeners going to love this our viewers every successful genetic transaction in human DNA is in the genome that we have today it's preserved it is transparent if you know not if you Know how to look at it it's right there it's not hidden it is secure and it is immutable because it's distributed throughout

the 8 billion people that live on the planet and if those terms sound familiar they are the basis for the new Financial decentralized finance that we are now that's now emerging in the world blockchain technology mimics blockchain technology mimics the way information is stored in the human genome that's why it's so Successful that's so funny you say that I just had a guy a genome expert on the podcast like two weeks ago who was explaining this exact same thing and how they're doing studies and Kevin was explaining on how they are saving their sequences and

their studies they're somehow saving them on the blockchain yeah yeah well I mean this is so all of the I said this earlier and I knew we'd refer back to it I have yet Danny to see any technology built in the world around Us that doesn't mimic what we already do in our bodies so uh gated circuits transistors resistors capacitors Photon emitters Photon receivers right the DNA uh literally is a fractal antenna and we can go on with this but here's here's here what I learned from being in what is a fractal antenna what does

that fractal antenna means that you're receiving information not from one isolated station it's fractal so you're receiving many signals across a broad Many bandwidths across a broad spectrum of information interes it's coming in all the time so one of the things I learned this is fascinating me is the more complex a system is behind the scenes the simpler the user interface I mean look you just picked up your phone or your iPad you touch one place you set into motion a whole Cascade of events you can pay your bills talk to your friends and all

you did was touch it touch a picture with your finger that's A very simple user interface for a complex system we're the same way we are we are literally what is called Soft technology we're not the Primitive hard technology of computer chips and wires and chemicals we're more than that we're human we are cell membranes and neurons and ion potentials moving across cell walls and here's the beauty you don't have to know any of it because our user interface is the bottom line of our most ancient and cherished spiritual Traditions thought feeling emotion breath Focus

movement nutrition that's our user interface and as we as we learn also called epigenetic factors as we learn to to use this user interface we awaken this soft High highly Advanced technologically sophisticated soft technology and uh and this is why there's a concerted effort to Veil us from this extraordinary potential uh and one of the ways of doing that is by replacing our biology With machines when we lose our humanness we lose our ability to access our Divinity that is a form of evil that is biological evil let me pause you right there let me

ask you this do you think that this is a concerted effort or a malevolent effort behind the scenes or do you think this is just like Silicon Valley capitalism going off the rails okay have you ever wondered what happened to the legendary Chuck Norris That's the wrong question Danny what did Chuck Norris happen to I recently saw a video he made and I was shocked he's in his 80s but he's still kicking butt working out and staying active what's even more shocking is he's stronger he can work out longer and he even has plenty of

energy left over for his grandkids he did this by making only one change and he still says he feels like he's in his 50s his wife even started doing the same thing and she said she's Never felt better she said she feels 10 years younger and her body looks leaner and she has energy all day long don't worry Chuck made a video that explains everything and you can make sure you watch it by going to Chuck defense.com Danny or clicking the link below this video it will absolutely change the way you think about your health

once again it's Chuck defense.com Danny and click the link in the description below to watch the video now You won't believe how simple it is and just a reminder the legendary Chuck Norris is a whopping 84 years old and has more energy than me he discovered he could create dramatic changes to his health simply focusing on three things that sabotage our body as we age watch his method by clicking the link in the description box below at Chuck defense.com danany that's why we began the way you began we are got to go back to the

context we are living a Fundamental battle between good and evil a lot of people when I was a kid I was born and raised in Northern Missouri rural Northern Missouri MH back in the 50s and we would talk about and it was a joke good and evil was a joke there's a little red devil that had horns and a pointy tail and a little angel here and they were having this conversation you know evil is real and it is deceptive in the way that it plays out because we are barreling down the path to this

Convergence point of 2030 evil is rearing its ugly head and if you think that's not true watch the music performance at the Grammys two years ago literally Satanic rituals playing out under was that under the guys under the guys of entertainment or if you saw the opening closing ceremonies of the Olympics oh yeah what does the the pale white horse of death on the river have to do with the greatest Olympians in the world coming together well you know What's funny about the Olympics thing everyone focused on the uh what was the what was the

um it was the Last Supper it wasn't the Last Supper it was something else or no maybe it was but but it wasn't um who it was dionis right it was dianis and Apollo it was it was it was something it was the something of Apollo anyways it wasn't I don't think it was supposed to be the last supper I think it was supposed to be um they can you Can you find out what that was actually called Steve they made it look like the last supper for a reason but the point they're not trying

to hide it anymore because because we are and what they're now doing is the attempt to replace our biology is being made to look like a good thing we're being told all you have to do is accept this in your body and you'll be safe yeah uh you will be more secure your life is going to be easier and and people are exhausted because the World has exhausted them in these last few years and they're just saying make it better make it better if I if I can go to the grocery store do my banking

and now I pay for it with an RFID chip which I've seen in in my wrist they put run it over this C they say I'm all in because no one yeah uh right the oh the Feast of dianis right so yeah yeah we did a whole podcast on this but like apparently that's not supposed to be they're saying It's the Last Supper but I think I think what um Neil was telling us was that that was Apollo that the big the large woman in the center supposed to be Apollo it was it was it

was a play on The Last Supper yeah and it was a play on The Last Supper to denigrate the meaning of the last supper right right yeah so the point is that woman is the Jesus Christ we deserve I mean evil playing out let me let me there it was there's the original So that's dianis drinking wine at the bottom okay or eating his grapes here there's the and there's right exactly the seven Rays it's still the same seven rays that Jesus had in the last supper what does all this have to do with the

Olympics it has nothing to do with the Olympics ridiculous but what the funny thing is though is no one everyone paid attention to this and no one paid attention to the badass gojra concert that was going on do you see do you see The metal show that they had they had this band Gojira and they had them all like on the on the on these balconies and like they had the drummer on his own balcony I heard they had the guitars on his own balcony oh it was sick I think that was that was a

defin definite win for the Olympics but yeah this whole thing was was silly there it is yeah here's the point and some of it may be just people and people like to take it to the extreme too like people on the Opposite end of everything they want to make things out to be something they're not so it's like you got to try to like be the the truth is usually somewhere in the middle with the stuff if you're looking only at that I would agree now you look at the context and where you can see

where are the events that are being portrayed are they in support of life or do they deny life and are they in support of our humanness or they do they deny our humanness right and Whatever the answer to that is I mean there's this goes so deep there's a concerted effort to remake our planet there's a concerted effort to remake our society there's a concerted effort to remake our very biology and all of those are playing out at the same time and they're all being pushed as an agenda by the year 2030 and who is

pushing it who's behind it well this is this is there are people who are prone to Greed and you say well people Do it for greed and money when you talk about the fundamental evil they don't need money because they make the money they don't need that money right this is a fundamental battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of Light to deny Life as we know it to make this world into something that is not good for us let me give you an example climate change I'm a geologist climate change is a

fact and I've been talking about since 1979 uh humans are not causing it the studies clearly show the humans are not causing it uh we contribute to it a little bit though you go back and the the relation to make it not not enough to like raise the sea levels but we can I think like it's it's known that humans do contribute a little bit to climate change right okay so if you what you're saying is that carbon dioxide is contributing to climate change and that is the problem you go back and you look At

the ice course and what you're going to see you're going to see two things yes there is uh there when we look at at the vasto ice cores and they show the relationship between carbon dioxide and the warming of the earth MH what we find is the earth warms first and then the carbon dioxide levels rise after that if the Earth warms first the carbon dioxide cannot be the cause of the earth warming really yep number one number two you go back and and how do we how do they Determine that the Earth is warming

by by looking at the ice course is you can look you so when okay let's talk about ice course yeah so ice cores um every year there's a new and I apologize I just I made an assumption that that's common knowledge because in some circles it is MH about what what what what part ice course oh every year no I've talked a lot about ice cors on the show I'm just well every year there's a new layer of ice that is deposited in on the ice Caps Antarctica uh the South Pole in Greenland and and

the North Pole and when that ice forms uh Danny it it captures little pockets of air yes and from that air in the ice and it's preserved another layer another layer another layer right now the deepest layers of the ice cores to the best of my knowledge uh are they're called VTO V K and they go back over VTO Lake a Russian a Russian Nam lake under the ice they go Back um about 420,000 years okay so drill down and you you can see every year what was happening was 420,000 years so what does it

tell you it tells you the temperature of the earth it tells you how much methane was in the atmosphere how much CO2 was in the atmosphere um it will tell you uh and it'll tell you about the magnetic strength of the planet and if you want to get into details of how I mean the Way they can do that there gas bubbles that are captured there are sea life there's certain forms of sea life called globina that the shells will actually in the sea course the shells will grow clockwise or counterclockwise depending upon the temperature

of of the water I mean there's all kinds of stuff you there's even like metals and stuff that can be deposited in there this is something that Flint was talking about yeah you can tell the metals you can Tell about the magnetic strength of the earth you can tell how strong the sun all those things so the ice cores are showing us a couple of things first they're showing that the temperatures rise and I'll I'll share with you why The Temper when you say the Earth do you mean do you mean the ground I'm talking

about our planet or are you talking about the atmosphere I'm talking about our planet but are you talking about Specifically like what I'm saying is are you talking like you're saying that the Earth was warmer are you talking about just the entire Earth including the atmosphere well this is atmospheric temperatures atmosphere okay that we're that we're talking about and what you will find first of all the temperatures R this is called the inconvenient data because it doesn't support the narrative right temperatures rise first there's a lag uh and then the CO2 levels will rise All

right and you can see that very clearly now you go back beyond that 420,000 now let's go back in geologic time is CO2 today high absolutely is it higher than it was 10 years ago absolutely is it higher than it was 100 years ago absolutely is that a bad thing right not necessarily I agree totally and if you look at the cosmic if you look at the scale and even if you look at graphs of clim of CO2 levels and and the atmospheric temperatures even over The last 20,000 years it is a roller coaster well

here but here's the thing you can have high levels of CO2 and the temperatures are low you can have high levels a low levels of CO2 and the temperatures are high they're not necessarily correlated now is this the the most CO2 that the planet has ever had absolutely not right now we're I think we're on what was 44 40 parts per million I think is somewhere that sounds about right Steve would you check and See I think it's 440 parts per million yeah and then find yeah maybe find like a graph uh like a like

a historical graph of the uh so so 440 parts per million yeah you're spot on 44 per million of levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere today yeah okay so is that higher than it was 10 years 1520 yes but here's the thing you go back into geologic period the Jurassic the CR we had a parts per million and Earth was green and Lush and life was thriving 2,000 parts per million Earth was green and Lush it's high CO2 is not a death sentence for the planet but here's what is low CO2 if we drop

below 180 parts per million it's a death sentence for this planet now let's do a little experiment let's do a thought experiment I did this in January of 23 you start planting more trees no a as a geologist I said okay let's look at the proposed CO2 limits let's look at The proposed CO2 limits right now if we were to meet all these limits what would the Earth look like all right they're they are proposing a reduction from 2010 and I think they want about a 45% reduction it it brings us down to about 220

parts per million all right 180 182 is a is considered uh a death sentence for for our our planet when we reach that level the forests begin to die right all right the and the temperatures are colder and The ice is greater in the northern hemisphere so CO2 is not like a little dial where you can like click it and say well we need to bump it up or bump it down the level that they're pushing for is only 36 35 to 36 parts per million away from a really really bad level for Earth so

I I did an experiment when was the last time Earth was at 220 parts per million CO2 MH last time we saw that was a a geologic time called the pine the last ice age all right Pine low CO2 the forest died they want to push our temperatures back we're an average right now I think 59° Fahrenheit is a global average give or take right now right now global average oh wow and they want to push us back to about 46° global average if we make this planet D if we make this planet geologically like

the pine it's not good for us right it's not good for humans would you agree with that no I totally Agree okay so let's put that aside now look at what's happening on this week what is happening is the major powers of the Earth are being provoked to destroy one another they're being provoked to create War to deplete weapons resources to deplete Munitions to deplete human power to deplete uh entire populations war is not good for us would you agree with that I would agree with that okay and you put that there now look at

what's happening socially the this is Evil climatic evil this is evil uh uh uh conflict war is evil oh yeah okay nowe thermonuclear war now you look at what is happening there's a concerted e effort to break the social bonds that have always held societies together now this is It's really tricky the way it's happening because they're important topics 2014 the Occupy Movement Rich against the poor that's a real problem it is Real we need to talk about it but here's the thing we need to talk about it in a kind way so that we

can solve the problem become a better Society for it it was weaponized to divide us rather than used to bring us together then the same thing happened men against women in the me too movement really important we need to talk about these are real problems that was weaponized to divide us to break that social bond in our trust and our Confidence the same thing has now happening against Christians against Muslims blacks against whites Jews against Muslims men against women adults against children now it's the gender conversation every one of these is important and everyone is

being weaponized to divide us we're breaking the social bonds that have strengthened us as a society now they're going after religion and when you have no social bonds left when you there's nothing left To trust you become very vulnerable as a society to the ideas and the agendas of others and you're seeing this concerted you put this all together I'm a systems thinker a systems thinker looks at the big picture and then goes to the Nano second of where we fit into that big picture M the big picture is that we are all casualties of

these systems that are being put into place that are not good for us and so you have to say if they're not good for humans who are they good For that's a whole conversation we can have but the point is now the attack is on our very humanness to separate us from our own the human is defined by our genetics when we begin to give our biology away to technology we give our humanness away humanness is the link to the Divinity we give away our ability for empathy sympathy compassion love all of these things what

kind of a society we do we become Ray Kur released his book earlier this year called the Synchronicity yeah oh is that what it's called the synchronicity synchronicity yeah and I'm sorry the um not the synchronicity the um it's when every we become part of the internet of all things oh Singularity Singularity Singularity I'm sorry yeah so what he says is by the year and he identified 2030 he said when you talk to somebody in the street you won't be talking to a pure human you will be talking to someone who's a human machine hybrid

to To some degree some people love that idea but by the year 20 because they don't know what they're giving away Steve wants robot cops they don't know what they're giving away Steve wants the cops to be robots I don't care about the cops out there I don't want the technology in my body and this is the thing I was just in LA and there's robot cars everywhere I know crazy it was they pulled up next to me and I waved and they didn't wave back yeah no it's it's Pretty wild it's so wild that's

in Texas too I think yeah KW says by the year 2045 is when we will all become part of the internet of all things where all of our resources all the animals of the Earth are all digital everything we eat all everything that we consume our bodies are all unless there's a change in thinking the purpose of this book pure human was to identify that these things are happening number one for an awareness hopefully to develop a deeper Appreciation for what it means and and even a pride for what it means to be a human

because our humanness is being denigrated in our schools today young people are taught that we are flawed from the moment we're born we are flawed species and we need something outside of us to be the best version of ourselves and to compete in the world and that something is being touted as technology and young people are all in because no one has taught them that they are a rare Powerful beautiful precious form of life that's not the result of random mutations over a long period of time there's an intentional act in our genome that is

very well documented with the fusions of chromosone 2 or chromosome number 7even these are not they cannot happen in nature there's an intentional act underlying all of these things but nobody's telling our young people this so unless we change our thinking you've all Harari just open U the um the wef uh and I think it was in 2022 he said unless there's a change in thinking we most probably are the last generation of pure humans that that the universe will ever know unless we exist somewhere else we're the last generation I think we're worth preserving

I think we're about to give away our humanness and we don't even know what it means to be human we don't even know we're giving away because we're only beginning to understand what The capacities and these capabilities are all about so that's why I'm very passionate about the book uh and even if the we weren't talking about the book I think it's important for us to recognize that evil has so many forms and they subtle forms so there are people who are predisposed psychologically to Greed and to power they're pawns and they're they're not necessarily

smart pawns but these are The ones that we see publicly and they are succumbing to the opportunity to indulge in their own vices in their their Vice of power their Vice of control but ultimately this is we're going to go right right back that scroll that I talked about that we began talking about it goes even further it says there will be seven battles between the sons of darkness and the Suns of light six will be one by the sons of Light six by the Sons of Darkness I'm sorry three by the sons of Light

three by the sons of Darkness that's only six the seventh battle it says sons of Light Prevail but here's the catch they Prevail with divine intervention and through their own Divinity through US accepting our own power we Prevail so what does this mean how this isn't the kind of when you think about battles people think about the old idea where there's like force against Force That's obsolete that's what keeps us stuck in the battle we don't want to win this battle we want to Triumph and Triumph is different than winning to Triumph it means we

rise above and how how do you Triumph in this battle by becoming the best version of yourself that's it living the best version of yourself where's your joy come from and live it without fear Love Without Fear imagine innovate create share your ideas forgive heal your own body because that Is our Birthright this is how we Triumph because when you do that you've defeated the evil that is trying to keep you from being the best version of yourself totally that's that's what the scariest thing is how this technological world that we're that we're living in

that's developing more and more every day and Silicon Valley and all of these social media companies that are essentially controlling the world I mean Google and YouTube you want to talk About like a like a modern day Rockefeller like huge Monopoly that controls everything controls the like the information draws the lines on where you can go and where you can't go on a conversation during a podcast and how that is basically merged with centralized medicine it's the centralization of all of the media and Medicine which is the most frightening thing to me Yep this is

a form of evil The media is a form I said their psychological evil and we saw this play out during this we see it play out all the time but we saw it really emphasized in this last election here in the United States by the way this is year 2024 this is the first time in the history of the modern world 40 Nations have had elections for new leaders in the same year really 40 Nations Steve can look out that 40 and and they're all saying we want a new Direction and I think That's the

good news they're saying we don't like we don't like where this handful of people in positions of Power are taking us because right you know I mean I uh I'm thinking this is I think this is the 47th year I've done this work in one form or another and I've been blessed i' I've traveled and seen just the most beautiful magnificent isolated pristine places in the world and ancient peoples and modern peoples and what I know is This people our brothers and sisters we don't always like each other because of our cultures but we do

love one another and there's something inherent within us even if you don't like someone you'll go out of your way to save someone without even thinking about if you see them in a fire you see a car wreck see someone drowning we're we're wired for love not to like right but to love yeah and what I've learned is the people of the world know how to get along it's we don't it's Not the people in Lima Peru and Beijing China bump and chest with Washington DC that's a handful of leaders in positions of power but

the people know how to get along and the people know how to care for one another and how to raise their families yeah so this is this is all coming to this convergence Point these next five years if the goals are met that are being proposed and the the policies are already being written the laws are being enacted this is all Formalized now because by by who well the WF yeah you think Trump's going to put a stop to that stuff the WF began 1971 and they've always had these elitist ideas which is and they

meet in Davos they can that's cool they can sit around and talk about what they think the world should be and it affects no one here's where that changed and a lot of people don't know this 2019 they formalized an agreement they signed an agreement with the United Nations to use the United Nations sustainable development goals un sdg 2030 to implement their ideas because they felt they were so closely aligned all right un sdg 2030 these are 17 sustainable development goals Steve can look them up they look beautiful on the surface if you read them

right who for example who wouldn't want um food security who wouldn't want um Into poverty who wouldn't want uh into to disease who wouldn't want those things right now you read the fine print how are they going to achieve those things and this is where it gets really scary the Patriot Act how about that one that's a great great title well this is so the right now the US is the problem because we are a nation that was founded on principles of divinity the div divine nature of human existence And because of that we have

freedoms there I mean we can do a whole program on that who who was it that that founded this nation and and where did those ideas come from will the Masons go back to the Templars the Templars actually Columbus was founded by uh funded by the Templars right I heard that recently oh yeah we I mean you look at this he came over on a sale with a KN Knights Templar badge on the S he was funded by Templars Templars are kind of a mixed bag um but when you go the Magna Carta for example

was the first document that that reflected any semblance of freedoms of people under government and many of those ideas were then reflected from the the Masons in the Templar tradition in the Declaration of Independence so of the 50 I think 56 people that uh signed the Declaration 13 were were Masons and they they reflected that yeah and this is the point that America the freedoms Of America are a problem for this global vision and so you're seeing a concered effort to break America and it is having success in some certainly looks like that's happening yeah

yeah well you and you're also seeing I want to talk can I talk about America of course just for a moment yeah I love this country the idea of this country and there is a difference between the idea and the implementation right now the implementation is flawed because it's Been hijacked yeah but the idea and this is my this isn't science this is now my personal opinion that I'm sharing I believe that uh it was America was founded for this time in history because it is the only nation that was given the freedoms that allow

us to transcend the oppression that's being proposed during this time in history and here here's what I mean by that a lot of people you know I've traveled the world And I have a lot of friends that say you know what's so special about America we can do the same thing in England we can do the same thing in Australia New Zealand Canada that you guys do our government lets us do all the things that that you do and and that is [ __ ] go sideways well this is they is nailed it right there

they said their government allows it and what a lot of people don't understand is what sets America apart and our young people are being taught America is trash and they're being taught that we're flawed and to to really dis disrespect um the history that we have and and well currently what the state I mean I don't blame people for for having that sentiment now in today's today's an agent looking what's happening with the government right nowe we we we failed our young people we failed the whole generation but what people don't understand is this this

is what sets the Declaration One of the many things but this is the the primary factor is that the word inalienable a lot of times people Miss what that means we our government did not give us free speech and our government didn't give us the right to bear arms and protect our families and uh and our property our government didn't give those to us they are inherent in our existence by virtue of us walking and breathing as humans in America those are In that's what the word inalienable it means it comes with being that is

the point of the United this is the only nation that has spelled it out like that and that is a problem as long as we protect that we have the legal means to preserve uh some semblance of freedom and of course we all know those are under attack right now and the world economic Forum interestingly the most recent iteration in 2023 they they see the biggest problem in the world is the Inability to control information you see that video of John Cary at the world economics said the first amendment is is the problem it's getting

in the way of of regulating information and disinformation onl and he doesn't even know what he said he doesn't even know how blatant he said it a few times before he said that well he probably thought about it afterwards I bet he got a phone call but but it was in his heart this is what he truly believes this is a Fundamental battle between good and evil evil plays out in many that is a a non-kinetic form of evil this is psychological evil right I would let me just tell you about contic I was I

was in a hotel room in London October 7th 2023 when the Nova Music Festival was under attack America was asleep because of the time difference 88 hours for me seven or eight hours I was getting ready to go on stage to present at a live event and I was getting the News feeds in my hotel room the raw news feeds from Asia uh India uh and the Middle East raw footage of what was happening at that Nova music festival and it was nothing short of Pure Evil I mean worse than the World War II videos

and Vietnam I mean it was horrible worse than horrible I cried I had a hard time going on stage that night I came back to my hotel to pick up the American news feeds America was not Allowed to see to this day America has not been allowed to see the truth of what happened on October 7th now they've got reasons for it they say well social media uh Community guidelines won't let us show the images the networks the many networks that are owned by only six corporations the agreement was made not to show America so

what was the result of that on College campuses people said there was a denial they said those atrocities never Happened if they did if they had have happened we would see them where are they show them to me and and so now you've got this divide that people say it was all made up it never happened they deny that any of that happened and the people that actually lived you know what it was going on that that is pure evil and when I saw that Unleashed I I said you know we're living this this rare

Precious Moment it's not not going to Last forever you know we've just we're and we're going to get through all this we're going to get through all the tension we're seeing in the world you and I should come back and have a conversation we're going to get through it the question is Danny and this is what I think if if we come at it from a spiritual perspective we're going to get through it the question is what do we become having gone through this what do We allow the events of the world to make us

into do we allow the events of the world to make us hate and to drive us to our most Primal instincts of fear and revenge and hate or can we find a way to meet what the world is showing us uh and demonstrate our our divine humanness and this is the key this is the key it doesn't mean that we have to roll over and play dead you know for people that say bad things to us because we all have to fight sometimes and I Think I think we may need to fight for our humanness

and I think we're worth fighting for but here's the key when we fight when we argue or if you're on a battlefield are you fighting because of the hate and the fear for your enemy in front of you or are you fighting because of your love for the people and the families and the truth that you know is at your back that is the spiritual battle between the sons of darkness and the sons of Light what Does the world make us become and the way that we the way that we Triumph is if we have

to fight fight from our love of what we know is possible and the gift of our humanness rather from the anger and hate that just destroys us and you talk to any soldiers I've got friends you know Special Forces they've devoted their whole lives and they've come home and they're broken they say what what was the purpose of my life and the purpose is that they were Fighting the ktic battle between the sons of darkness and sons of Light good and evil so this is one way of positioning it I mean there's a million ways

to see it but in the brief time that we have together I wanted to give a framework a context the book is identifying that there is a concerted effort to replace our biology and then all the new discoveries that are telling us we already are the technology that They're trying to replace us with except we do it better right can can I just give an examp I mean I said it can I give an example yeah of that this is an amazing study that was done so young people are being taught to to idolize computer

chips artificial intelligence because they're fast and efficient and they are um you know is a chip fast and efficient absolutely but is it scalable and here's the thing you can never scale a computer Chip it will always be limited by the physics of the stuff it's made of right so if you if a silicon if a Chip's made out of silicon not all of them are but if it's a silicon chip the atoms that make that silicon the information is always going to be able to move so fast between between those atoms now is it

fast efficient yes scalable it is finite in its scalability okay and we know that and we're actually reaching the limits of our computer chips right now through Law that says you double the speed uh you know every every so many years well the the number of years is collapsing in the speed is increasing and we're down now uh to that to that level where we're not going to be able to to double that much more now you look at a human neuron is it fast it is what is its upper limit and the truth is

that we don't know because every time a neuron is pushed to what was believed to be a limit by scientists and medical experts In the textbooks we do what humans do our neurons will morph and adapt and embrace that limit to be able to open entirely New Vista now of possibilities and we do this again and again and again and again what is the scalability the upper limits of a human neuron we appear to be infinite this is a form it's a very different way of of thinking it Danny it's it's what we call a

soft technology we are so Advanced our Engineers strive to create in a laboratory what we now are capable of of doing in our bodies so young people are being led to believe that a computer is better than a human brain that our brains are are flawed and weak and subject to you know all kinds of failure modes so scientists uh did a little experiment uh what they did was they they compared a human brain to a microprocessor and the comparison they they compared the synapses within the Brain to the transistors on the processor and what's

interesting is that we have about the same number I think the brain has about 10 to the 14th uh synapses and and 10 to the 11th microprocessor so it's it's it's pretty close but here's what they found when all was said and done that the human brain is about 100 fold more faster and more more accurate than the than the the processor than the micro processor is processor is the biological neurons were More efficient and they were faster and part of that is because the way the brain we do triage of information when that information

comes in we send it out to different parts of the brain in different brain States uh some of the information we may process in the alpha State some we may process in in a a beta state so it's a very different way of looking at the at the human body from an IT perspective but the the point is that we meet and in many cases exceed the Capacities of the very technology that we're being encouraged to replace our bodies with this is uh uh something that nobody's telling you know our young people yeah um it's

interesting I read a book all about the creation of DARPA the defense Advanced research I think it was used to be called DARPA now it's called DARPA DARPA where they were uh during the Cold War uh working on I think that's where the where GPS came from the Internet came from one of the yeah the internet I think jock fet was a big part of that and um one thing that they were talking about in that book by Andy Jacobson it's Sensational um was that they actually were developing brain chips like neuralink they were developing

neuralink in the 90s for soldiers to create super soldiers to be able to avoid pain and to increase endurance and they were they were working on different I I I have a Friend who who lives in Tampa who's a nutritional biologist and the dod contracted him to figure out how to make make it so Navy Seals could breathe oxygen rebreathers without getting oxygen toxicity seizures and he developed like the special he basically found out that like the essentially ketosis the keto diet is is able to to mitigate that and now they're applying that to epilepsy

patients sure but putting them on keto diets like they Don't have the seizur anymore I was diver when I was at fit uh as an ocean Sciences major we had 30 30 weeks 31 week quarters rather than semesters of Navy certified scuba and uh and during that time they were developing the uh the liquid breathing apparatus so that humans can breathe at extreme depths without their lungs collapsing because of the external pressure and it was all based on the idea that we we derive oxygen in our Mother's womb from liquid in our mother's womb we

breathe the liquid and now they were able to duplicate that with the right combination of nitrogen oxygen liquid and you fill your lungs with with a liquid and then when you go to deep deep deep deep diving uh the pressure around you doesn't doesn't collapse the what the tissues inside so this and that was they did this that was that was in the ' 70s I don't know where it is now Really I can't see what he's doing there liquid breathing is a technique that involves breathing in oxygen-rich liquid instead of air it has been

proposed for use in deep diving liquid breathing can help divers match their body pressure to the surrounding water pressure making breathing easier it also eliminates the need for decompression and problems like nitrogen uh Narcosis and the bends the bends yeah so have they done this can you scroll down well I don't know Officially I don't know that they're acknowledging that uh they were doing it back in the 7s I don't know where it is now I I haven't kept up with the technology does it say that they're they're actually is are they offering it commercially

um I don't know I don't know I could I'll just Google it I'll ask the Google um the nurlink thing is crazy like the the fact that they've been doing that since the 90s and we don't know about it until like the you Know a couple years ago when elon's talking about it well the FDA just approved it this 2023 the FDA approved neuralink in in humans and this is you know Danny this is one of those cases and I go back this again and again I I have been in the the tech world most

my adult life and and the academic world because they're closely related uh I did not pursue my Advanced degrees in Academia because I was hired in the industry right to to do the work And so does it say they it looks like it's not really I mean it says it's uncommon he can't find anything um oh oh wait go up go what is that it says uh it has been the subject of experimental clinical use in and science fiction there are several biological and physiological hurdles to make it uh yeah I don't think that makes

it unlikely for deep sea ding I don't think it's something they're doing every day but it Is possible to do it it is it has been done under laboratory conditions and that was they were doing that back in the 70s so so the um the the effort to to try to replace our our humanness with the technology I mean that's something that goes goes way back uh working in the industry there's always been the question and there's always been two schools of thought and and during the Cold War I mean this these were readed really

heated Discussions one school of thought says just because we can do something means that we should in other words they say we would never have been led to figure this out if we weren't meant to do it whatever it is whether it's weapons or biology or you know whatever it is the other school of thought ISS not so fast just because we can doesn't mean we should and in many cases what I've seen is the technology evolves faster than the Morality of how we apply it in our lives sure and and I think we're seeing

at now the technology is moving so quickly what gives us the right to replace a human body and most people don't even they don't even know why they shouldn't you know but what you're talking about the chip I mean the technology can be a beautiful thing uh there are examples of men and women service men and women have lost arms and legs sometimes both arms are both Legs and they come home and what a beautiful thing to have a computer chip in the brain that communicates with the Prosthetics that now allow them to hold their

hold their babies in their arms and brush their own teeth and feed themselves I mean we take those things for granted that that's a beautiful oh man a beautiful application of that technology so it's not the technology it's the thinking underlying it the thinking that has been instilled into uh Two generations at least of young people and now they're adults and we're doing in our schools today is that human that carbon-based life in general and human life specifically is a flawed form of life and among our flaws are believed to be human emotion which can

Cloud our logic and our decision making and our judgment that's considered to be a flaw human conception sexual conception because the truth is you never know what you're going to get and so the Technologists say oh well we can fix that we can fix that through Gene editing we can fix that Designer babies designer babies but now the babies don't even have to be in inside of a a mother's womb right artificial wombs are now being developed um uh the most Advan that I've seen they're expecting FDA to approve them within 5 years even in

vitro fertilization I mean that that's kind in A way I had a a um an anthropologist on the show and he was explaining how that's like that's a scary road to go down well all of it is because the point of all of this is that when biology is based upon demand there's an adage uh in biology we've all heard it use it or lose it usually here for people getting older if they don't use their muscles if they don't use their sex uh you know sex life those things we we lose those Yeah that

applies to replacing the human body with technology when we replace our natural biology with synthetic and artificial systems our body believes that it no longer needs to perform those functions and they begin to atrophy in one generation Right Next Generation through epigenetics the body says oh you know we used to do it that way but but we we have chemicals to do it now for us in the the immune system for example or or Uh you know the reproduction or something like and and pretty soon within a generation those abilities begin to atrophy and become

a vestage of something that we used to do and this is how you lose a species this is precisely how you lose a species we are we are on the cusp right now of giving our humanness away the technology and it's not like you can say well let's try it for a year and if it doesn't work You know we'll go back to what we used to be or try it for a generation no once it's gone it's gone and nobody's telling our young people that all they're being taught is that we are a flawed

form a weak powerless victim of the world around us a flawed form of life nobody's telling our young people how special and how precious human life and how beautiful a human life really really is and when you begin to understand Divinity not from a religious Perspective our DNA is tuned it's an antenna it's picking up signals and those signals are what give us life and love and healing and our imagination and creativity and if you sever that signal what kind of a person are you you're still alive you're still breathing you're still functioning you have

no empathy no sympathy do you part of the way Warfare and I learned this during the Cold War one of the reasons Warfare works is because we play on the empathy Of the other side assuming that the other side wants their family to live or wants to preserve their own bodies if you take that away now you have soldiers that have no Divinity they have no sense of self or purpose they have only mission in mind our super soldier yeah what kind of a world is that I mean this is like the most dystopian of

our our scientific you know the the horror movies that you see on on Sci-fi coming into reality the Germans started this during World War II they were actually trying to develop super solders yeah and um and there's a whole conversation we can have about that how far they got what happened to those doctors after the war they were incorporated into the medical systems of the world and the medical system systems that we rely upon today so the thinking it's all all to support the idea it's not the technology It's the thinking underlying the technology in

a world where we're living a fundamental battle between good and evil that's that's the context we have to go back to we're being led to and being deceived to relinquish the gift of our humanness in exchange for efficiency and speed and Technology without being told what the consequences really are what is it that we're giving away the one another example of this I Mean this has happened long enough young kids they there there are case studies of of young people babies they get up in the morning eat their cap and crunch or Cheerios or whatever

it is for breakfast the parents sit them in the living room and put an AI visor on their head to entertain them so the parents can get some work done mhm hours hours at a time okay so now what's happening to this kid they're seeing images that they would never see in the backyard with their Friends they're hearing sounds they're seeing colors intense experiences but here's the key it's all being done for them they're not using their imagination to create them you know you and I I mean I don't even know how old you are

but I bet when you were a kid you used take a a blanket from the closet and drape it over a couple chairs in the living room and now you got a tent yeah in your living room and now you're a tent that's an outpost on the surface of a far away Planet and you wear your rain coat because it's a radiation coat that keeps you safe when you're exploring this planet we're using our imagination yeah right the young kids are not and so here's what's happening the the psychology is showing this their brain size

is stunted their cognitive development is stunted their uh their muscles have atrophied because they're not using their muscles and their their body size but there's a part of their Brain that is enlarged it's the visual cortex because they're engaging that visual cortex with the AI That's all they're doing is and the same thing happens with people have done a lot of iasa now the plant medicine you know a few times is no big deal habitual use over a long period of time what happens is the visual cortex begins to thicken and it distorts the way

that we perceive reality now if you're a shaman in the Jungle of Costa Rica who lives in the jungle of Costa Rica that's no big deal but if you're sitting behind a computer terminal writing the software for the nuclear triggers of a Nations nuclear Arsenal and doing iow Oscar recreationally hundreds of times with your friends on the weekend it's going to impact your ability to to function and to do those things so I mean this is just examples of of how when imagination creativity are Replaced with the the uh the AI and things like that

it's not just passive entertainment it actually is influencing it's affecting the way these young kids are growing up we have a whole generation that know only computers only the blue lights you're talking about and the dopamine part of it too how it hijacks your your your dopamine feedback and the the the loop in your brain how you how you get that dopamine from from these things from these phones and from These screens like video games or this like Mindless scrolling these Doom scrolling that you can do on like Instagram and reading stuff on Twitter like

that's not how you're supposed to get dopamine that that makes you a quite literally makes you a slave to these devices well this is this is part of of what is happening we now have a generation I think the Millennials are the last generation they bridged no mobile phones and mobile Phones for they the Millennials remember a time when we had dialup telephones early Millennials but we now have a generation of people that only know the world through a mobile phone an iPad and a computer and what I mean dating is happening on through texting

people breaking up over over a text they they'll have an emotional relationship and they'll break up on the text and that's it no conversation and and the Person the breakup e is devastated right the breakup ER just is ready to to move on I I had an experience uh 20 I think it was it was before Co I took a group to Peru and uh that year and there were two people that traveled with us and they really sweet men two beautiful sweet men who had been friends for a long time who both had kids

sons who were within a year or two from one another and they said let's do this Father and Son thing So each of the men came and they each brought one was 15 one was 16 they stopped in Miami because we flew out the next day and the kids went to the young men I shouldn't call them kids I apologize they were young men they went to a rave party the night before they left and both of their cell phones were stolen they embarked on a two-e journey in the Andes with no technology for the

time in their lives and we got to see the withdrawals we got to see it Happen they were first they were very anxious mhm edgy yeah they became depressed they slept in the mornings they wouldn't get up to come out and see Machu Picchu and the sacred side well that time was the sacred Valley so yante Tomo and the sacred sites uh their fathers would go and they'd come home and and they were just not communicating at all it was well into the second week Something Beautiful began to happen and it's like they came Out

of this Haze and they started communicating with each other started communicating with their dad they started getting in really getting into the culture and the people and the food and having a great time yeah they wake up it was almost sad that we had to come home we did and then when they went home uh I assume they got their phones but now they had their phones and they had the reference point of knowing themselves in the absence of The phones right now they have to make a choice what kind of a man do I

want to be do I want to be a slave to this I don't have my phone there but to this technology right right but we all and the whole group watched it happen and and we were I mean you know we know it but it's amazing when you actually see it how much of an influence yeah this technology has on us so so this is not anti-tech this is about hopefully developing a deeper appreciation for our Humanness and I like to take it a step further even a sense of Pride I am proud to be

a human because because when you read the ancient texts and when you there's a whole another facet of this I'd like to go into yeah uh there is something about us that is rare in this universe that is precious can I share a couple of stories are you okay if of course another perspective and this isn't for everyone but everyone learns differently everyone Learns differently so I'm I'm going at this from a number of different ways and somebody will pick up something that means something to them uh uh there was a researcher Harvard trained he

was the head of Psychiatry at Harvard University 1990s and I had the honor and the privilege of knowing and touring with him on the conference circuit his name was John Mack oh yeah I'm very familiar with John Mack okay so I knew John We Tour together before he was mysteriously killed uh and there's a lot of uncertainty about precisely how that Happ the wrong way crossing the street in London right he wasn't Crossing Street he was on the sidewalk and the car left the street he was on the sidewalk after the conference he was had

dinner with friends at night he was walking home at night the car left the street camp on the sidewalk struck him Down and returned to the street and um he was conscious when they found him and he died not not long after that he was the first scientist that gave credibility to the phenomenon of what we today call alien abduction yes now this is taken on a whole new meaning because of what's happening in Congress uh the disclosure hearings are having about right do we have technology have we met these beings do we have in

our possession all that so this is in the 90s before you know all this was under wraps right and what John Mack did was he said look prior to that time the scientific and the medical community said these are just crazy people schizophrenic yes John Max said look this is happening on every continent in every culture and it's been happening for hundreds of years let's look into this scientifically if if it is mental illness we'll prove it and why are all these why are all these Testimonies of these folks why are they all so similar

well this is that's exactly where I'm going so one of the things he found across all the cultures and and the countries the language and everything there were common themes not 100% but there were there were these overlapping common themes one of the themes play in to exactly and supports what we're talking about here that's why I'm sharing it one of the things people would ask as An abduct te I probably would as well is why me you know why why have you chosen me and and what is it you know that you want me

to know or what do I need to know and one of the common themes was that these beings that did the abducting the abductors were actually life from other worlds Advanced forms of life and they are here they said because we're at a point in our Evolution that they were in their evolution a long time ago where They had to choose between biology and Technology they chose technology and they're sorry that they did that because they lost so much of their biology they lost the ability for emotion they lost the ability to conceive uh internally

sexually it's all asexual and they want that back and they're warning us not to make the same choice so that's one category another one is really really fascinating to me was not John Mack but there was a a study that was done not Everyone fit into the John Mack category there were a large number of [Music] people that revealed that the abductors are not alien from another world but they're us that makes the most sense to me from another time they're us from our own future these are humans coming back because we gave our humanist

away to technology they're the product of the loss of their humanness they're warning us not to do It and they're also want it back and they're thinking that would explain the extraction of eggs and sperm exactly eggs sperm and and DNA they're thinking they they can at least uh merge some of this back into their existence whether you believe either of them or not that some people are more drawn to one or the other but they're both saying the same thing there's something about us that's worth preserving there's something about us and and that this

isn't going to go On for decades we're at this like I mean this is within the next year two years three years certainly five years between now and 2030 if we give our humanness away we can never go back and they are inv fting us or warning us not to do that from two very very different perspectives isn't that interesting another interesting thing about the testimony from all the people that John ma talked to is that a vast majority of them said that when they asked these Beings during these experiences they had um whether you

want to believe that they were real experiences or whether they happened all inside their head either way a vast majority of these folks said when they asked these beings who they were where they were from a lot of them said they were from the future yeah it didn't say they were from other planets or whatever and uh like if you look at all the living species on Earth they were Earth from humans from Earth Exactly where you come from we didn't come from anywhere we came from here from Earth right exactly and if you want

to you know if you want to compare extraterrestrials from another galaxy or from another Goldilocks planet in another another solar system to us like first of all what would be their incentive to try to warn us and try to save us right like why why would we want to travel across the Galaxy just to this other civilization not to destroy Themselves right it would make sense if they were us from the future they would have an incentive to do that another thing anthrop anthrop anthropologically anthropologically easy for you to say is that um this a

team yeah exactly there's like I think there's over 2 million catalog species on of of an of um of animals on Earth 20 of those are hominids and one of those 20 happens to be upright walking hominids that can control their and manipulate their Environment right and we happen to also be the the one of the 20 out of the two million that can develop technology that can leave the Earth right and and look at so so look at how rare we are on planet Earth as a species that can do this and attain this

level of Technology right now extrapolate that out into the universe out of all the Goldilocks planets like how much life have we found on other planets right now look at look at the variety of of conditions that These goldilock plants we do know of exist in like the difference in Gravity the difference in the atmosphere most of them are water worlds um some of them are binary star systems so what are the what are the like just looking at the percentage of US compared to all the other catalog species of mammals and and and and

um living things on earth species on Earth what are the chances that another species on another Goldilocks zone Planet that can inhabit life is going to evolve to look like us with two arms two legs upright walking bipedal hominids with two forward- facing eyes brain sits on top of the head just like we do I'm glad you asked that's so unbelievably tell you what the odds are none zero zero scientists say when the odds of something are occurring are 1 and 10 to the 400th power that is considered impossible mhm so we if we go

down to 7eleven and get a lottery ticket and They say one one and 10 to the 400 to might as well forget it the odds of our genome forming the way it has formed and I want to talk about how it formed but the odds of that happening are 1 and 10 to the 600th so if 1 and 10 to the 400th is impossible 1 and 10 to the 600th means it's more than impossible that we are the product of random processes lucky biology that there is and as a scientist I have to say the

evidence supports not Just suggests it supports there's an intentionality underlying our existence that intentionality may be the link to the beings from other worlds higher a higher intelligence would and in our ancient text there are different ways of looking at that are we talking about gods are we talking about angels are we talking about Nephilim are we talking you know the where that's a whole conversation M the point higher intelligence intervened and we know this Now I want to be really clear are you okay if we have this conversation this part do we have time

yeah we got more than the time yeah so as a geologist I believe in evolution so I'm not anti Evolution I've seen it in the fossil record when I did my field work I saw it for plants insects animals Darwin's theory of evolution breaks down when it comes to humans we showed up mysteriously 200 th000 years ago and we don't know where we came from What we do know now that we have the we can do what's called forensic DNA and this is only you know within the last few years we can we can look

at our genome and Look Backwards reverse engineer what had to happen to give us our our humanness for me The Smoking Gun there are a couple but I I think the one that that is the most outstanding and probably the most controversial is human chromosome number two and I write about This in the new book what we know so human chromosome 2 it's the second largest chromosome in our nucleus it's a big long chromosome um it has about 1,200 genes and I I won't go through all of them but but a c i mean even

one gene TBR number one tbr1 is responsible for our uh uh the Neo cortex in the human brain I mean that is where our our humanness comes from empathy sympathy compassion um it is where our logic capabilities is Where the mirror neurons are are that we use for learning they're all contained in that in that neocortex uh it is where I mean there's so much happening in um in the neocortex and that's just from tbr1 so it's an important Chrome we wouldn't be here if we didn't have it and so scientists say well where did

it come from well now the proceedings from National Academy of Sciences is a volume called genetics they they know the Answer and they don't like the answer because it they say and this is important when a scientist makes a discovery they want credit for and they're proud of they will say look at what I discovered when they make a discovery that they may lose their tenure for or that little little you know controversy around it they'll say look at what we discovered all right so proceedings National Academy of Sciences the summary actually says we conclude

the origin of human chromosome 2 is from the fusion of the talir to talir Fusion of two ancient chromosomes all right telr I know our viewers know telr are on the ends of the chromosome to protect them when when the cell divides it's a trauma for the cell and if you could imagine the chromosomes are are pulled apart and there's a part of the chromosome every Chromosome that is not going to make it in that pulling apart and that means there's a potential to lose important DNA so the way nature the way we're engineered takes

care of that is we have on the ends of the the chromosomes the telr that are repeating sequences that take the hit from pulling apart okay so if something is not going to make it it's not the important DNA it's it's the stuff in the telr all right so they're only on the Ends of the chromosome and that's the point chromosome number two and I've got pictures of it and Steve can probably find a photograph chromosome number two is as big as it is because two chromosomes were fused telr to telr now you've got telr

on this end on this end and right in the middle where they shouldn't be there should be no telr in the middle of the chromosome but not only that looks like my that's my slide Which one that does it say my name is it oh you won't no no that that's my slide right there on the left hand on the top left yeah huh from a recent program that I did where's that come from you John Hawks who's John Hawks I don't know but he put my that's my white circle that I put up there

showing oh wow punch in on that and I enlarged it I enlarged it see that so seeing okay so first of all these are chromosomes under a microscope and they've been dyed so we can see the Chromosomes green the red or pink however it comes out on there I don't have my glasses on so red okay those are the telr and you can see on all the other ones T mirors are on the ends right there uh and then it's the inside the white circle is the same one that's been enlarged right I did that

that's my slide oh wow it's somebody's using in their their paper uh show going look at where you can see right in the middle the two red places are right in the Middle but you can actually see the pinch point it looks unnatural because it's a little skinny place but here's the thing not only were were the pre-existing chromosomes fused Tere to telr but after the fusion genes were taken away and genes were added and genes were silenced to stabilize the fusion and it didn't happen slowly gradually over a long period of time as ution

would suggest this happened quickly two 200,000 years ago it's when We showed up two it the chromosomes refused when we showed up and what is the significance of those chromosomes being of that chromosome 2 being fused the significance is it gives us our humanness if we didn't have chromosome 2 you wouldn't have the neocortex you wouldn't have sympathy empathy compassion you wouldn't have the ability to self-regulate your own biology and if that was the only one you could say maybe it's weird but maybe It's a fluke but it wasn't the only one chromosome number seven

so as a musician I'm a musician when I'm not doing this mhm and I've always chimpanzees they share 98% of our DNA and that's a mindblower 98% and so I've always wondered why can't the chimpanzee sing you know you're never you're never going to hear chimpanzee sing in lad Zepp on Stairway to Heaven or if you ever do shoot me a text because I want to see that and the Question is why and the answer is because chromosome 7 was stable in all primates for about 175 million years stable all right all of a sudden

two little genes there was this this little switch of these two genes that connected our tongue and our jaw and the part of our brain that allows us complex speech and the ability to sing and guess just take a wild just take a wild guess when do you think that Happened no idea 200,000 years ago 200,000 years ago exactly the same time chromosome 2 was being fused exactly the time that we appeared on Earth what are the odds of chromosome 2 being fused and chromosome 7 happening all the same time and the the odds are

astronomically small because the odds of our genome forming the way it Formed is one and 10 to the 600th what is the conventional explanation for this Darwin's theory of evolution suggests that we are the Product of a long slow gradual process over a long period of time through what is called random mutations uh colloquially we call it lucky biology okay it's it's kind of like you've referred to Goldilocks conditions on Earth it's the equivalent of Goldilocks what are the chances that just the right genes just the right chromosomes came together in just the right time

you know to give us our our human This uh so you see these kinds of mutations and scientists say I mean this isn't my opinion this is in those technical but it's in the there's a paper from uh proceedings National Academy of Sciences the volume is called genetics it says this cannot happen under n natural circumstances something happened 200,000 years ago to give us our humanness and we appeared and now here's the mindblower 200,000 years later now We can pull the DNA out of the fossilized remains of ancient forms of life used to be science

fiction Jurassic Park was based on the science fiction that they pulled the DNA out of dinosaur bones and then they brought the dinosaur to life they reconstituted them to the best of my knowledge we have not reconstituted any forms of life but you know in the basement of the Pentagon mhm somebody my chair speak sque somebody up there's doing but but What we can do this is what we can do we can pull that DNA and build a genome a print out of that genome and so now we can compare our genome today to the

Genome of the forms of life that Darwin's theory of evolution says we descended from and the DNA says we didn't descend from them we did not descend from Australopithecus we didn't Lucy we didn't descend from neanderthal now if you do a a DNA test for your ancestry a lot of people will say well I've I've got Neanderthal DNA and More in in northern Europe you see that a lot in the UK and this is it even proves the point because we shared the Earth with Neanderthal we actually interbred they say we probably had boyfriends and

girlfriends Neanderthal boyfriends and girlfriends we shared the Earth with them we could not have descended from them so the point is we don't know where we came from the so you're saying because we Enter bred with them that's why it show theory of evolution says that we are the process of this long the product of this long slow gradual process a lot of people don't know there was um there was a corollary to Darwin's theory um put forth by another scientist at the time that that says that the Cory says nature never over endows H

so the problem is we are all over endowed and people love to hear that what it Means is that an organism will only develop the characteristics it needs when Nature puts the demand on the organism for it so for example uh adaptation the studies of moths in London during the Industrial Age uh the the coal fire plants the MS had white feathers they' be against white buildings and that would camouflage them from the birds and the birds couldn't get them once the coal fire plant started all the Buildings were covered with soot and they turned

black and the white Moss stood out like a sore thumb and the birds were picking them off right and left and they quickly adapted to turn the color of their wings black so that they would blend in with the soot that's an example of of nature giving a capability because the demand is there for survival right the problem is Danny that we showed up 200,000 years ago with a Genome that is Light Years beyond what we needed for simple survival 200,000 years ago with capabilities that were only some of them were only beginning to understand

extended neural networks that allow us to create heart brain coherence for example but open the door to so many so many human potentials the ability to self-regulate our own we're the only form of life that can at will on demand when we choose sit down in a Moment in time and say in this moment I choose to strengthen my immune system I choose to create resilience to the changes of my life I choose to create stronger heart rate variability I choose to create super memory super cognition uh I CH there are over, 1300 positive biological

changes that we consciously have the ability no other form of life can do that and it's because of what happened 200,000 years ago so as a scientist I have to be careful the Evidence strongly suggests intervention of some kind doesn't say who or what but this did not happen naturally now my own personal feelings when I read the ancient texts and I visit all these ancient cultures it's so interesting not one of them not one of the ancient Traditions I've ever been with the Andes and Southern Peru and the the shamans in the Yucatan and

Nepal and India the monks and nuns in Tibet I mean bedwin in Africa none of them say that we're the Product of a long slow gradual process of random mutations every single one bar nun says that we're the product of an intentional act and that we are part of a greater Community whatever we want to call that so now some people say now you're talking about aliens other people say well you're talking about angels and demons and other people say well you're talking about uh time travelers in advanced civilization we have different ways of Describing

but the science is telling us we're not the product of random just lucky biology yeah yeah this is like getting into um Sumerian Zachariah sitchin land with like the Anunnaki stories you know I I knew sich and I toured with him in the90s I knew him I T yeah I toured with him before before he died um I was very blessed I toured with in a conference setting I toured with John Mack meio Kaku if you study Meo um Zachariah sitchin Ed Mitchell six Man to walk on the moon wow you okay it was and

I learned I was very blessed I learned a lot from these and I did Mitchell ever tell you the truth about the moon landing we landed we did oh yeah we definitely landed on the moon may not have happened exactly the way we definitely have landed and we can continued even after the program was officially ended yeah so uh you know we have a commercial did you see the movie contact Oh yeah favorite movies one of my favorite movies there's a line in contact it's it's classic uh where they build this device that has been

received from uh from the the array the vlr in uh in sakur New Mexico they get the signal and then they build um they build the the device and they test it out and it breaks and they think everything is lost and and classically the guy says why build one when you can Build two for twice the price and they had built another facility in Japan where they were able to to go forward when we built the cape it was the same thing we built Cape here in Florida we built a mirror facility on the

west coast and vber Vandenberg Air Force space and I when I was working in the Cold War uh installing software there was a day I I had a pass to be on base to install software and I I finished early and I had a rental car It's a beautiful base it's over 6 60 miles along the coast Rolling Green Hills and and I asked I said can I explore your base and they said yeah and I said is there any place I shouldn't go and they said don't worry if you go they're going to let

you know so we didn't have cell phones in those days we had little instatic cameras and you 35 millimeter films and you drop the whole camera off and they develop the film so I had one of those Cameras with me and um so I'm driving along and all of a sudden I camp on this Hilltop and I could see the Pacific Ocean and I got out and as I look down from the hill in front of me there is an entire launch facility I mean it looks like cape cape canaval you know and all of

a sudden up the road a couple of MPS and jeeps they came pretty fast they came up and they said we're going to have to ask you to leave and and confiscate your camera They said we're going to have to take your camera and I said okay but can you tell me what I'm looking at and he said well this is slick 6 slick 6 I said what's slick 6 and he said it is the West Coast equivalent of of the cape and so the cape when we do a commercial launch has to be broadcast

commercially on the west coast those are military launches and they don't have to be uh they don't have to be broadcast so I have not seen the Launch people have told me that we continued uh with a few launches after what was the end of the Apollo for and it was during the Cold War I'm not surprised it was during the Cold War so for example SDI I worked on a project called SDI Star Wars Defense Initiative to test SDI we had to take those weapons in the space on the space shuttle well once you've

got them there you're not going to bring them home so they're they're already deployed so We've had space weapons you know since the Cold War years and um I don't know how much of that facility I'm I'm not in that industry anymore so I'm out I'm out of touch I'm I mean this was in the Cold War and now we're talking you know years later I have no idea what it's being used for now but the point is that we we've had that technology and you asked me from Ed Mitchell and he he said and

I believe him that um you know cuz there Was a there was a um a whole like underground movement after the moonlanding of because one of the biggest arguments for the moonlanding not being a hoax is that if it was fake Russia would have or or China would have like came out and tried to expose that right because they wouldn't want to be humiliated no they wouldn't and this is this is what's so interesting the Cold War was a really interesting it was a civilized War not like Today where politically we were at war with

Russia capitalism versus communism scientifically there was a lot of cooperation that was going on we we built the space station with Russia right we did that together and what a beautiful thing that we accomplished together Russia and America at that time were the only two superpowers number one the only powers That had the money and the technology and the capabilities of going to the moon or anywhere else and they agreed not to talk about what they found on the moon now both countries are broke why do you think that is because of what's on the

moon what do you think's on the moon well I just want to say now both countries are broke but there are other countries that are not India is sending Shiva one to the moon and China and neither one of those countries Agreed to non-disclosure and China has actually said and this is I mean you can't make this up I keep saying this China has said when they land their their Craft on the lunar surface they will broadcast to the world what they what they see so here's here's the thing we sent craft looking for microbes

and bacterial forms of life when those craft landed next to archaeological remnants that are over 50,000 years old on the moon on the moon on the lunar surface and when China sends those images back my sense and I I don't have an inside track any longer my sense is that we're going to see structures that are there and I've seen photographs of the structures uh they all the way back to the Clementine missions um that were through Freedom of Information had to be released in 19 I think it was 1990 they had to be Released

and they did and they pixelated out all of the archaeological structures and some of them are Towers some of them are are long elongated archaeological structures so look at the irony here we are looking for microbes Landing next to temples on the surf on the lunar surface yeah now think about what this means here we are we're in a planet on the verge of global war because we believe our differences are so great that we must hurt one another to solve those Differences what would it mean for a space probe from Earth to land on

the lunar surface and find these archaeological remnants and find that they're not from aliens from another world but they're from us from another time and I think when they send those images and you see the glyphs on those Temple walls will know exactly what they say because they will be in our root Languages uniform Hebrew Sanskrit and Arabic are the four four root languages that uh that I think you'll see when those come back would that be enough for us to look at one another as Nations and say my God look at the great and

beautiful things that we did when we worked together a long time ago in the past what could we achieve if we came together right now what could we give to our children and what could we give to our future if We work together instead of destroying ourselves that something like that could be the Catalyst you see there was something that came out in NASA a couple weeks ago I think it was maybe even a month ago where they discovered caves like deep Caverns oh yeah they've already found it that it's already I mean this stuff

we've had the images uh and I think it's one of the reasons commercially we didn't go back because it causes a lot of problems um And about the dark side like there was also something that came out where they were interviewing in I think it was in front of Congress maybe but they were interviewing the head of NASA and they were asking him about why China is sending Rovers out to the dark side of the moon and he was like ah he was like let him do it we don't care what's we don't care what's

back there well the Moon the Moon itself is an enigma shouldn't be shouldn't be where it is The orbit of the moon is unlike any other orbit uh of any Moon around any planet in our solar system the multiples the the dimensions the geometry of the Moon the the number of moons between Earth and the Sun the number of moons between Earth and the Moon these are very precise they're integer multiples this that doesn't happen in nature all the other plets in our solar system moons typically orbit around the equator ours is offset just enough

to give us The the gravity to stabilize our ocean tides and there is geologic evidence to suggest there was a time where we had oceans and no moon and the tides were huge I mean we're talking like 400 foot waves that were coming in and just decimating land uh and there are stories and there are uh indigenous traditions and biblical passages that talk about when there was no moon and and how things changed when the moon occurred now That's not science they're stories right but the uh the geology does suggest they found evidence um of

these massive uh tides at a time when there it's believ the moon didn't exist the question is is the moon a natural Moon Is it artificial or is it a natural Moon that was captured in our orbit from a CL a catastrophic event in our solar system and um all big questions you know to to be Answered yeah so I think as we go through the um the Congressional hearings and we find out more we've been in contact I mean they're telling us we've got the craft I don't think anybody cares about that anymore nobody's

surprised we have the beings I don't think anybody's surprised about that but we have the technology and that's the problem because if we've had technology for 70 years that could have ended Wars and eased human suffering and Because of greed we chose not to reveal that technology that's the problem and the moment that technology is revealed our entire infrastructure of the planet changes and some people are afraid of that do you think the government has an idea or any kind of understanding on what was going on with what John Mack was talking about the abduction

phenomena there are governments within governments so there is no one government right it's like the United Nations good point there and I I don't want to slam the I have friends working there are good people in the UN there's un within un there are some people there A lot of younger people that want to do really good things and there are people there that have been caught up in the hijacking of the UN um that are I'm not even sure they are aware of the implications of all the things that that they're doing because there

are layers and layers and Layers all happening under the fundamental canopy of the battle between good and evil and it's not a metaphor we have to think that way because anything that steals our human sovereignty anything that steals our Divinity anything that veils from us our human potential is a form of evil and now you look at what that means in our lives what does it mean for our economy what's it mean for finance what's it mean for Health Care what's it mean uh you know All the different ways what's it mean for technology and

I think that is the yard stick that we have to look at is this good for us does it promote or deny our humanness what what other um ancient texts or anything that you've looked into or ancient religious cults uh have talked about this DNA um this merging of the DNA telr other than like and and how does I know like the Su what exactly does it say in the suan tablets and Those and those myths yeah this is I want to go back to siten I think sit I have a lot of respect for

Zechariah siten I think he was a brilliant man I think he was a good scholar and he pretty much single-handedly brought to the mainstream I mean there have always been linguist behind the scenes but through his um his his series of books the 12th Planet was probably the one that people read the Most uh that brought that to light I didn't and continue to not agree with his interpretation he his interpretation is that we are here because we were made to be slaves right right right my sense from what I have read what I understand

in the ancient traditions of people I've talked to and in the texts we put them all together is I think very possibly we have been enslaved at a time in our past I don't think it's the reason we're created um yeah there's a whole story we can get into maybe another podcast we can we can talk about that so I I don't think it's the reason we were created and he believed that that was the reason we were created yeah it's one of the most it's one of the most interesting crazy like sci-fi stories that's

out there is the story of the Anunnaki coming down and creating us to basically be a slave Species to terraform the planet and then they started breeding with us and they somehow wanted us to mine gold well that was his interpretation you know the bibl in the atmosphere biblical interpretation is that we were deceived into coming to this this world rather than this planet we were deceived into coming into this realm of matter and three-dimensionality uh and that is a Form of evil is the deception of the Angels this is the biblical perspective that uh

that were deceived into coming to the Earth realm and captured in matter and three-dimensional body IES and led to believe that there is no other realm that's another interpretation and they you go back far enough and all of the Traditions that that I've seen they all say that we're the product of an intentional act you go into the the Mayan cultures and and the And they talk about the multiple iterations of what it took to create the first humans and how we were created you go into the Apocrypha and the the Gnostic texts and what's

really interesting is they never say God created and even the original biblical text doesn't say that God created humans it says Elohim and Elohim is a plural so multiple beings created humans and when you go into the The Apocrypha the texts that were left out by the church uh the first time didn't work multiple iterations of humans had to be created to hold the power of the soul in the three-dimensional world so another way of saying that is multiple iterations of DNA had to be tested to hold the sound or the frequency um as the

antenna to tune us into where we are multiple Iterations uh Eve was not the first woman that was created and I think we probably have biblical Scholars that may have talked Lilith according to text was was the first female yeah that was created from uh at the same time that Adam the first the first human the first man but because they were created at the same time they were like brother and sister right and they weren't drawn to one another it was when Eve um Eve was created and I wasn't there I I just Imagine

I'll Channel Adam said thank God you know cuz because this beautiful woman appeared and and it he didn't feel that it was his kin his his sibling he felt and they were able to um to to be as man and woman right yeah it's interesting that um all of the like the entire Bible there's nothing there's no evidence of anything in the Bible prior to the helenistic period it all came after the helenistic era which is Fascinating and there's literally like like before like during three the 300 the 3r century BC um and up to

like the 2 Century BC is when all these Biblical characters started to get written about like for example Moses there was like two dozen versions of Moses that were written about in the helenistic area that were like in you know preserved in the Library of Alexandria and then that's after this is when we start to get this biblical narrative to to force So so like yeah it's interesting and and also when it comes to the Dead Sea Scrolls one of the weird things about that is it's mostly Hebrew right there's Hebrew there's Aramaic there's Greek

Greek right but um there's no other Hebrew language anywhere in Antiquity well a couple things F first of all we don't even know where the Scrolls came from they have been attributed to thees who were a mysterious sect that showed up 500 years before the time of Of Jesus of of Na azareth um who did not even call themselves a scenes they were the Egyptians called them therapute because they knew how to heal and Jesus uh and his mother and her mother were all of the aen lineage so he was raised in the lineage that

understood healing the Scrolls now they were found in kumran but now they're doing DNA studies and the parchment that they're on Uh didn't come some of it didn't come from the Middle East so now the question is were the Scrolls created somewhere else and brought to kumran intact or was the parchment created somewhere else brought to kumran and then the Scrolls were the trans transcribed from the other documents by the ases and we don't know the answer to that right now right for our viewers the the reason the scrolls are so powerful and again you

can't make this up this is all 20th Century 4647 is right around there the Scrolls were found the oldest records of the Old Testament unedited by the church 45 the oldest records of the New Testament and the Gnostic texts were found in Egypt in nag hamadi a little village nag they're called the nag hamadi library and these are the Lost gospels that the church edited during the 4th century so now we've got the Gospel of Philip the Gospel of Thomas Very controversial MH uh Gospel of Sophia were the women in the Bible they were there

and they were Gnostic women uh I mean some of the the female te there's a a text called Thunder perfect mind what a powerful text written by a gnostic woman right and I didn't know we were going to talk about this just from memory I mean it begins it says I'm the [ __ ] and I'm the Holy One uh I'm the healed I'm the sick I represent everything in my life that you are in Your life why do you Stone me to death at your city Gates right and I can see the church fathers

they're going through the list of you know what books do we include and what books they say oh that one's got to go you know uh but so within just a few years of the mid 20th century we had the oldest records of the Old Testament the oldest records of the New Testament and the books that had been edited out 43 books had been edited by the church in the 4th century And we had a complete View and then you begin to see why the church omitted some of the text because it destroys the narrative

right that has been preserved through what we call the Bible now I think the Bible is is a good book is it complete no right it's not is it selective yes right right yeah one one of the the interesting things about the Bible is like the way we look at Religion Today is vastly different in the way people looked at religion in Antiquity right we look at like people some folks like to look at religion as like hard fact in science right as if like that's what they live by I mean it's one thing to

look at it that way and then it's another thing to look at it as like a tradition or a mythology something to that upholds values for you and your community like back then there was like religions weren't exclusive like yahwism all these other religions were just like People embraced all of them well and they do I when I'm in the Middle East we before uh October 7th of 23 we were leading groups into the holy lands that include Israel include the surrounding areas and we would go into cities and Villages where people of all faiths

they worked in the same restaurants they lived together their neighbors their friends they the Arabs observe all the Jewish holidays the Jews observe all the Arab holidays which means they get a lot Of days off during during the year their kids play together and they know how to live together it wasn't a problem for them right A lot of people when we have this conversation they will acknowledge the Bible is incomplete and they interpret that as the divine inspiration that created that led the church to create the Bible as it is because this is the

way it's supposed to be this is what they'll say it was well it's yeah it's power it's greed over Over centuries yeah and it's uh and there are a lot of ways to to interpret you know what that is but this is one of the overarching themes and again this was the war scroll that says we we are until the end of this cycle that we are in this fundamental battle between good and evil and that the way that we Triumph is by embracing the truth of who we are that's it our and you can

read whatever words you want to read into that whether you want to talk About biology or you talk about the word Divinity right so so what we're invited to do is live the best version of ourselves was that that war scroll went what year was that one discovered 40 okay that was in the first in cave number one were the first seven Scrolls that were discovered and they were some of the most intact the Isaiah scroll is the one that's the most intact and if you go to uh Jerusalem today just outside of Jerusalem there's

a museum Called The Shrine of the book Museum have have you been there before Oh this is amazing so the museum on the outside is a white it's a white structure that is made to look like a large version of the top of one of the vases one of the clay vases uh Steve you can probably bring up Shrine of the book Museum if you would please and and I want to show you something on here cool when you go inside the the central part of of the Inside the shrine of the book there it

is right there okay so there's the outside oh cool so that's the top and then can you there's a black oisk next to it can you see if it shows the black oblisk next to it there right that thing right there lower lower yeah there it is right there MH this is the symbol between the Suns of darkness and the Suns of light that black oblisk represents the Suns of Darkness the white represents the Suns Of light interesting the first seven scrolls are housed in this Museum oh really and then what you're seeing in the

center uh Steve you could enlarge that upper left oh now it's right in the middle yeah right there thank you thank you for the work you're doing behind the scenes what you're seeing here is this is made to look like a Torah scroll and what you're seeing on display is the Isaiah scroll most intact it's wrapped all the way around and that Whole structure is designed in the event of a nuclear attack the belief is that the information on the great Isaiah scroll will be the foundation of the the new civilization that emerges from the

destruction and it must be preserved at all costs so this entire structure is designed to drop underground into to a vault and the lid is a concrete and steel lid that comes over it to preserve the great Isaiah Scroll in the event of a nuclear attack for the emerging Remnant afterward to have all the information they need to build the new the new civilization that's how important the Isaiah scroll is believed to be isn't that amazing that's insane yeah yeah and this is where again this is in the Shrine of the book Museum just outside

Jerusalem and then the other scrolls are in the displays that you see around but that's the Isaiah scroll that you're seeing Right there what is the signific what's in the Isaiah scroll have you read it oh yeah well I my Hebrew is not the best my Biblical Hebrew I've read the English translations of it okay do you do you read any ancient languages I am not an expert scholar I have a strong background in linguistics and so I have uh when languages have been found on some of the archaeological remnants that have never been trans

At excuse me mhm uh when there are archaeological remnants that are being found now here in meso America with um I can't say that it's an alphabet but their symbols have never been translated so I am asked to intervene um as a as a linguist and a geologist to see if these are if the stones come from this area if they came from somewhere else if the language is a known language is not a known language is it similar to anything that we see Egypt you know CI form Sanskrit and this is in meso America

you've looked at this mes America and what have you found we're it's ongoing okay it's ongoing so so this is all in the and you can see the displays on the edge are um uh other remnants fragments of the dead scoll that's fascinating when I was there last in 23 there was a new exhibit inside of here and the only scroll that has ever been found of the Book of Genesis uh the original Genesis was found and at that Time it was not in good shape uh it was still rolled and they couldn't unroll all

of it without damaging it so we now have technology they can see what's in it without actually breaking it but uh wow that's the uh there's so much the scrolls are important for a number of reasons they're important for certainly for the Jewish people in terms of their tradition but humankind in general because it's in Those first five books of the Old Testament Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy that mathematicians and statisticians were able to load them into the computer back in the 90s and run search algorithms called el electronic skip sequences right uh or letter

letter sequences M um and what they found when they do that mathematically is beyond random Beyond chance statistically what they're Finding is Meaningful information encoded in number underlying the letters of these first only these first five books they tried it right with other books and and it doesn't work so there's something very special about those first five books a deeper meaning below the letters that we read on the page every ancient alphabet yes barnan has always had a number that represents the letter um the science that has called gatria and it's not numerology a Numerology

is a loose subset that doesn't follow the rules in the second century there was a a book the 32 rabinal rules were laid out in the 2 Century determining how gatria can be used as a science and um I've spent a lot of time with it I've got the software uh run run the algorithms and you can't fake this stuff I mean everything that has happened in the past is encoded into into that document they They did the original are you familiar with this have you had guests talk about this okay so roughly bagely everything

from all the all the great Wars are in there the countries that entered the wars the years they entered who their leaders were the year the war was overh what year the leaders I mean the Assassin Kennedy election of Obama Trump I mean everything is encoded um and the text says that it will be everything that was is or will be is in Until the end of time not the end of the world but the end of time is encoded into that text the End of Time into these texts into the first five books Genesis

exus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy when do you think they were written uh well this is why the scrolls are so important because they were the oldest records that had not been edited that were ever discovered of these books okay representations of all the Old Testament Not complete but representations of all them and you can see where the discrepancies are what is the what is the um I know we've talked about this a million times but I can't remember what is the consensus among Scholars of when the Dead Sea Scrolls were originally composed I don't know if

they had that Steve if they have a consensus the Scrolls or like yeah what is the narrative the Scrolls pushed the dates back by A Thousand Years okay so they say they were written between the third and the first okay right so during or after they're helenistic at the very at the very earliest they were helenistic so 300 in the 300 BC roughly so there's there's a whole lot we can say about all of that but the I think what's what's important from from all that and it's another perspective you know it's it's another perspective

why yeah how could all that information Be encoded and to understand that I was a senior computer systems designer and even that I had not been taught about what it appears is happening in here this is what's called a dynamic uh array so we're we're used to talking about an array of information you know linear information this is a multi-dimensional in the computer you can do it multi-dimensional but the thing about this array is every Time an event occurs the entire array rearranges itself to accommodate that event and create a new possible outcome it's almost

as if I mean in Lay terms it's almost as if we were given We Believe except that we live in in a Quantum World Quantum possibilities many potentials and that we make the choices that become our reality it's almost as if we were given a map of potentials outcomes so you query say something like uh 2024 election Trump so that's a query and you put that in and it will come back and the array will show you like Trump's name and then it'll show you the 2024 election and it'll show you assassination attempt assassination attempt

it'll it'll show you the possibilities around that particular query doesn't predict what will happen right it it indicates consequences and outcomes it's almost as if we were given a map of quantum Possibilities so that we can query but here's I want to just share the real good news that that I've seen from this during the Cold War I queried and I was studying this during during the Cold War right at the end of the Cold War uh Cold War was over 89 and 90 and it was in the early 90s it was the first time

that uh Michael drosen wrote the book called The Bible Code this was the first time with u with the the Hebrew mathematicians and if you query Atomic Holocaust uh uh that only comes up twice in the code and the years for both of those we've already passed so it suggests that we are not I'm not going to say you won't see a limited exchange I think you may see a tactical nuke on the battlefield somewhere but I don't think we're going to see mushroom clouds All Over All Over the Horizon like they show in the

movies it it showed 1983 83 was the last year according to the Torah codes the Bible Codes that the word Atomic Holocaust uh comes up and it says uh Tor yeah this is called the Torah codes or the Bible codes it's commonly the Bible codes but it's actually the Torah that's that's being first five books of the Old Testament that's being who was the guy who first wrote about this um are you familiar with the with the Bible I mean I don't be redundant I'm not familiar with what no never heard this before oh You

oh okay well I apologize okay so let's start over 1990 or mid1 1990s a man Michael dren Michael D that's the name wrote a book called The Bible codes right right and it was based on the the work of uh Eli was a a statistical mathematician who had published in a peer-reviewed journal uh an article about what are called electronic letters sequences El sequences and so here's what put it on the map in the Torah codes it said that The Prime Minister his name was yito Rabin would be assassinated at a certain time on a

certain date by a man with a very precise name they took this information to Yak Rabin and said look if you do this speech on this day 3,000 year old book says you're you're going to you're going to be killed so maybe you want to rethink and he said no if it's in the Torah it must be true he went and gave His speech and he was killed on the day at the location at the time of day and the man's name was air am irir and that was all in the Torah codes and that's

what put it on the map they said how could this book have predicted that he that this was going to happen so then statisticians they they said well what if he hadn't what if he had postponed so they ran the query you know that he talked on another day and the codes came back and it said assassination delayed Indicating it still would have happened but it would have happened maybe another time okay can you explain to me again how exactly they run these codes they they take I apologize because I when you said you'd heard

of it I thought I assumed I'm familiar with how numbers are associated with the language the words this let's do this I wasn't familiar with how they they decipher are they using a computer to let's do this this is so cool okay this goes back About 400 years rabbis have always said that there are hidden codes in the Torah mhm they didn't have computers they tried to figure it out by hand and it's it said by candle light and and uh you know lantern lights and it said that they went crazy trying to do this

so when computers came into Vogue in the 9s those same rabbis said well let's let's do this on the computer so the idea this is gatria Every letter of every ancient alphabet has always had a mysterious number associated with it we don't know where they came from they never change Always consistent if you uh the study of cabala uh people know this they often use the numbers and letters interchangeably in in cabala or kabala uh so they took the Torah and converted the letters into their equivalent numeric representations and loaded that into the computers as

an Array okay all right and then you can tell the computer beginning with a certain letter you can do what's called a skip code you can say if a skip code is 10 you start with a letter and then you go 10 and then 10 letters down and then that's the next code then 10 letters down and that's the next and what you find is is an entire word so for example uh in the Book of Genesis uh the first T that you find and I think it's I believe it's a the skip Code of

10 is O skip code of 10 R skip 10 of skip code of 10 H and it actually says Torah and they said okay well what else is in there so that's what makes you crazy doing it by hand so what they did was a computer and you can you can determine what the SK it can be a skip code of 50 or a skip code actually the Torah maybe a skip code of 50 I could I may have just done that wrong I didn't know we were gonna talk about this uh and I haven't

done it for a while you Can determine the skip code and what it will do it will search horizontally it'll search vertically and it'll search uh at a diagonal okay uh if you yeah there you go R just going to you're read my mind so you can see how how these skip codes work okay the key is it has to be entered in Hebrew you have to enter the query in Hebrew and wow where the information so like for example the Twin Towers yeah uh was in there and it it say that the Planes would

hit the Twin Towers it I mean everything everything and how did they find that like they did this after the fact obviously right it doesn't it doesn't predict it shows relationships once you you put them in there so Harold Gans was a CIA analyst who wanted to debunk this so he said let me do my Harold Gans gns he said let me do my experiment and there was a very famous experiment expent that he did Where they entered the name of I believe it was 32 rabbis and they said let's see if these 32 rabbis

are in there well not only were they in there their birth dates were in there the date of their death was in there the location where they lived in the world their city was in there it exceeded what the analysts thought he was going to debunk it now he's one of the strongest supporters of uh of what was happening so it's it's controversial a lot of people don't Believe it it's a mystery how could these things happen well this opens the door to another conversation that we can't have today but the conversation is if we

are living in a simulation I think You' probably had guests on have' talked about virtual realities and and us living in the simulation have you have you had a guest talk about that if if we are living in a digital a virtual simulation it makes sense that we would have a map of all the potentials within Our simulation simulation until the end of the cycle and that's what is believed that the Torah codes were given to the people of the earth 3,000 years ago uh as a map of potentials when we make a choice these

are what you can expect as the outcome um Until the End not the end of the world but the End of Time the end of time is the end of the cycle and then we begin a new a new cycle and the code says that we are we are living the end of that cycle and that's why so many Things are converging right now is that where you get the idea a where does the idea of the 5,000 year Cycles come from the 5,000 year Cycles are it comes from a lot of ancient tradition based

on excuse me on cosmology okay is that come from the Myans or the the Mayans were one of the had one of the best representations archaeological representations so so 25,000 years is uh is one uh pression of the equinoxes right and That's a lot lot of time it's broken down the Mayan calendar breaks it down into five subsections if you bring up a May calendar I can show you bring a my a good M calendar on our screen please where 2025 mind calendar there there it is May calar which which actually is not even May

it's Aztec but it's Associated right let's see if if you do images May and calendar no you don't have to do 2025 but yeah just images May and calendar there oh I see and let's pick uh pick a good any anyone uh like the circle thing or do the one right there right there in the center oh yeah on top all right and a large okay perfect so what you're seeing do we are you okay if I go into this a little bit of course yeah yeah see the four boxes yeah okay each of those

represents one of the four of four previous cycles each one is 5,125 years okay and then the circle is The fifth 5 time 5,125 years is approximately the 26,000 year cycle that we're living each of those has a glyph that represents how the cycle ended in the past one was through wind one was great winds swept the Earth and and took everything away one was Ice uh one was fire and one was water the most recent the great flood that we see okay those are four the fifth one the circle in the middle when I

asked the Mayan Elders how that's the current cycle and I asked Them how does this cycle end what is that glyph and they say that is the glyph for movement and I say well what kind of movement does that mean like the Earth moves or earthquakes or then they say we don't know it could be a movement of people could be a movement of ideas could be a movement a physical Movement we don't know they said that the cycle will end with a great movement of some kind so that's this is the Mayan representation but

this is only a piece Of a much there is no single artifact that can encapsulate the complexity of the Mayan system of time this is one piece of it right because they're interlocking Cycles uh that between cosmological ages so complex man they were so mathematically Advanced it's it's almost hard to comprehend yeah where did they get that right where did they get that who built the pyramids there's so many questions another Podcast so so what we're looking at is uh when we look at the Torah codes the the experts I mean the jury is still

out it's very controversial people that have worked with it the information is there there are people that want to debunk it they say how could it be uh I think and I don't think we have it all figured out yet because um because it's only given us partial information but the information the Relationships it gives us are always right on one let me just close it out that piece with one very beautiful thing when you see something really dark in the Torah codes uh often nearby in What's called the statistically significant distance so it's not

like way off somewhere it's it's close by is a phrase that says will you change it will you change it suggesting that we Have uh have that we are given the opportunity to determine whether or not these dark things will happen will you change it the choices that we make and I'm I'm always encouraged when I see that I think it's no accent that that we that we've seen that so that's the I mean there's there's a lot more we can talk about with the the Torah codes but that's that's a little piece of the

big conversation yeah have you ever been to Egypt I'm sure you have I led groups there from 1992 until uh until 911 he's done everything every year at least at least once a year sometimes twice a year such a fascinating place that I want to go I've never been no well we should do a field trip yeah we should we should do uh we should do our big fun podcast field trip yes from from the road yeah that'd be that'd be a lot of fun yeah I've uh are you famili are you familiar with uh

Christopher Dunn I don't get out Much so he wrote a book in the like the I think his first book was in the late 80s maybe um called the the Giza power plant I remember that book I didn't I don't know the name but I do remember that book he's an engineer he comes from Aerospace and uh when he first pyramids he thought there's no way this is a tomb he's like oh no he reverse engineered it and he says this is a functional this is a functional machine and his he's revamped his theory and

added on to it Recently in his newest book is called um the G or the the Tesla connection it's like part two yeah and his idea is that the pyramid the Great Pyramid is a uh a solid state electron Harvester that harvests electrons deep within the Earth and he's even had like NASA scientists that have backed up his ideas with how those stones in there can um help with the electron flow through the Earth and how like you know all those shafts and everything in there They don't make sense it's like that that thing had

to have some sort of crazy function to it well it it is based on such Universal principles that it has many functions for that very reason because of its harmonic relationship to the Earth to the energy on the earth to the cosmos encoded into the pyramid the dimensions I mean it's it's directly in the middle of all the land mass of the planet it I mean you probably know all the the stats That go with this I was there in uh 1986 I had uh oh wow I was I was in Egypt and they gave

permission at that time they've never done this since to in the Great Pyramid to take a core sample from one of the casing Stones because the question is how did they build this thing um how' they get the stones up for 430 ft you know and what they found was so controversial it was published in the engineering journals not a lot of people want to talk about it um because at that Time a lot of new age the harmonic convergence was happening a lot of new age stuff people talking about crystals lasers vibration all of

which is possible but the evidence doesn't support any of that what the evidence shows is that core sample in natural line the the casing zones the outer Stones were removed uh mined to be used in buildings And mosques in Cairo and there's only a couple of them left they were beautiful uh polished marble white so what we see today was never meant to be seen by the naked eye it is sandstone or um Limestone MH natural Limestone as a geologist I can tell you will have laminations because the way it was deposited it have Micro

fossils uh you know tiny microbial forms of life some kind of shell something in There and what they found the core samples was done to that what they found was it was completely homogeneous there were insects air bubbles and human hair that they found in this core sample really what they now believe is that they were built whoever built used a technology that we're only starting to use today and it was they took the Natural Stone pulverized it mixed it with a matrix of an epoxy and poured the Stones in place to get the high

tolerances less than a thousand of an inch between the stones and to get the materials up high they poured the stone and it it dried in place and now they think the same thing happened in Peru at places like oant tambu Machu Picchu um the coricancha things like that and uh it's a very different way of looking at the technology but if that's the case it's more advanced what stone they took they took the core samples out of the Limestones on the outer edge of it on the outer parts of it you see a picture

of the pyramid you're looking at the the interior that was never meant to be seen by the naked eye mhm can we just what is this Steve uh I believe this is what he's referring to oh did they publish it uh abstract study of physical sum in study of physical properties such as uh porosity density and mechanical properties such as uh compressive Strength and tensil strength of Egyptian Limestone based on experimental investigations there's some light bedtime reading yeah what is the finding go up go up go no no no very top it says findings at

the top right where we just were oh right where we were findings a strong correlation between paracity and density and good correlation between uh unial strength and tensil strength carried out results indicated the small porosity results in Greater Rock Strength and vice versa yeah but it's not talking about how it was built yeah no it's not they they published this in the there's a core sample in the geologic journals uh and the geologists had no problem with it the historians had a a huge problem with it and they also date it now as a geologist

the the Sphinx in the pyramids the stones are showing uh erosion that is called fluo fluvial Erosion which means fast amounts of water over long periods of time not aolan erosion which means wind right they had believed that all that erosion was from wind Robert shock Boston University concluded uh with uh John Anthony West I used to know John before he died we took our groups over at the same time would talk for his group and he would come and talk to my group oh that's amazing it was a lot of fun he was a

good man had a Hard time in Egypt yeah um but it was during during that time this in the early 90s um the only time they've had that kind of running water in Egypt was at The Melting of the last ice which puts this around 12 12,000 yes BP before pres right and uh and that means the Egyptians as we know them today are not the ones that that built the Sphinx and and the pyramids right GE they P this published this umg American Association petroleum Geologist they published geologist said hey what's the problem I

mean the data is right there of course it's it's water M um the historians have a horrible time they said oh my God it can't be 12,500 years because that messes up you know the whole timeline and and so they're they're struggling with that today yeah it's also crazy how all around those pyramids I've seen never been there but I've seen photos all around there there's like giant pieces of gr we to Take you on the trip yeah definitely I want to go definitely I got to wait till my kids get a little older so

I can bring them with us with me um but there's like all these giant Granite blocks all around the pyramid that look like they have literal circular saw blade Cuts in them like you could run a credit card through it they're so perfect it looks like someone took a giant circular saw and went right into the side of those pieces of granite Tanako on Bolivia the Bolivian side of Lake tiaka uh in Peru you see very that's very controversal it's being dat around between 15 and 20,000 BP before present yeah so the question is I

mean I think what we're finding I mean all of this is opening the door to a a conversation that says goes back to the beginning of our conversation we're not who we've been told and we're much more than we've been led to believe okay and we're beginning to understand that History I think what's important now is that just as we're beginning to understand that history yeah uh we're being asked to deny our our humanness and within a very brief period of time we're going to be encouraged to accept technology into our bodies chemicals in our

blood definitely RFID chips are already being used in Sweden right now in Industry there was an article in extreme a guy I think he had 15 RFID chips Jesus in his body and he Was bragging he says he's never felt Freer people there some people that because he could leave the house with no billfold no credit card no driver's license and he can go to work one of his he just puts part of his hand and and it reads and he gets into the building he goes to the bank and another people don't understand what

that RFID chip is doing to their biology and the thinking underlying that uh and the loss of human sovereignty when it comes to that and These are all things to consider so I'm I would never tell someone attempt to convince or persuade anyone or tell them what to do or what not to do I want people to be aware of what it is that they're giving away what does it mean to give away your humanness and is it is it worth it to you to trade your humanness and your Divinity for efficiency and speed yeah

of of a computer chip or to relinquish the complexity of your immune system to The efficiency of a targeted chemical that knows how to go after one contagion at the expense of losing your ability to go after other contagion at other points in your life is that worth it to you right um we're up on the three hours and I'm I'm going to close this I think what it all comes down to I'm just want to acknowledge first of all we've covered a lot of ground and I appreciate your willingness to go there and I

appreciate our viewers if you're still with us After three hours thank you I'm sure they are all right I'm acknowledging that much of what we talk about is a way different way of thinking and I I want to say it is for me as well I in a rural community in Northern New Mexico conservative Community I was never taught to think this way but I had to be honest with myself as a scientist does the science support the story that I was told and it did not and so there's a big difference Between taking the

science and forcing it into a pre-existing idea and allowing the science to lead to the new story that it tells and I I had to make that choice in my life I lost credibility as scientist when I did that and I'm I don't care about that I'm not I would rather be honest with the people of this world that I love and share what I believe the story is saying then preserve some kind of credibility in an academic environment That uh uh that in my opinion is obsolete so I'm just acknowledging we we've covered a

lot of ground what I think it comes down to is love and that's why I want to leave this love do we love ourselves in the enough to accept the Deep truth of what it means to be human and the responsibility that comes with acknowledging our potentials and our capacities and the choices that we make in our lives in the next five years are The answer to that question it's not a verbal answer do we choose to preserve the gift of our humanness or will we succumb to the indoctrination that tells us life is easier

and it's safer if we give our humanness away to technology these are choices we all have to make very profound and uh I think it makes a lot of sense especially when you compare the direction that we're going in society right now to the way that Societies and cultures evolved in Antiquity and just looking at some of the Creations that are Beyond our comprehension today that people and our ancestors had it it's just it seems so obvious that they were more connected to themselves and to the Earth and not stuck in this hamster wheel of

efficiency and progress and chasing the economy and just in that hamster wheel that money-making hamster wheel that we That we live in today our world so I think it resonates really well well you think about I mean you look at the events of the world and they're all designed to keep us spun up and occupied spun up in fear which we were never meant to live in 24/7 fear was a temporary condition to be remedied not uh an experience to be to be preserved and we're seeing the consequence of that in our health the inflammation

the disease the anxiety the Depression the fear uh for ourselves and our children and the way out of all of that is to embrace our divinity yeah to to be the best version of ourselves and to do that we have to have the courage to look beyond what we're being told y not to to Discount all of it but to examine it look Beyond think critically and and our young people are being conditioned away from that they're being told to recite what the authorities have told Them rather than to think critically and say is this

true totally Greg thank you for your time man I really appreciate it I want to thank you great to meet you it was a pleasure to meet you now this is a good dry run so now you ready start the podcast press the button and then press record and and we'll do the whole thing again right that's funny tell people uh that are listening and watching where they can find your book where they can find your website get in touch with you All that stuff the new book uh the book is called Pure human the

hidden truth of our Divinity power and Destiny we have talked about portions of it there's a lot we didn't talk about Greg bron.com G gg2 G's b r a dn.com my mom did that on purpose uh Gregory is oneg and I'm not a Gregory I'm just oh nice just Greg two two G's is Greg yeah uh wherever books are sold you can go to Amazon you go to our website wherever the books the book is Officially wow that's handsome devil the the book is officially released January 28th but it's pre-selling very strongly right now and

I think they're going to run out the first print run so people if you want one soon um before January 28th amazing I haven't seen that is this on my website is that your uh that's oh that's the Hay House website my my team did a beautiful job I've got a a beautiful team of very powerful women working behind the scenes to help me uh Support all this that's awesome man yeah um if you have five minutes we have a couple questions for our patreon subscribers yeah that we us should do on the at the

end of each podcast have a throat L yeah yeah yeah yeah we'll just spend like you know 30 seconds to a minute answering each question we'll just rip through a couple of them all right all right uh which one you want to do Steve um let's not do like the ones that are Like 10 paragraphs you can ask anything this guy asks about the gene code okay the what this guy says what is the god code discovered in DNA again again we got to keep it simple keep it short all right if if it's possible

I know that's a that's like a 10-hour question no so as a senior computer systems designer during the Cold War years my specialty was pattern recognition software when the human Genome was first published onto a computer network and we could see it for the first time uh I immediately noticed that there were patterns in in our genome it's not random uh in 2004 I released a book that was the result of 20 years of research uh of the message the literal message that's encoded into the first layer of the DNA in every cell of every

human body that literally translates into the words God Eternal within the Body body it literally reads God Eternal within the body and it reads God Eternal within the body in the four root languages uniform Sanskrit Arabic and Hebrew and it tells us that when we believe our differences are so great that we must hurt and Destroy one another to solve our problems we need look no further than the 50 trillion cells inside of every human body to remind us of who we are we are God Eternal within the body wow it doesn't Say who God

is or where God came from the god that is spelled out in the DNA of our bodies is the same that you see in those texts that we just talked about Scrolls Gnostic texts wow all right so this this highlighted part I think is okay I can't see it you got undo the Highlight today I see people becoming genetically weaker due to the amount of poisons they get from food water Sky medical indust industrial complex I see people becoming much stupider becoming Dopamine addicts do you think that the human race is subconsciously thinning its own

herd out in order to be become stronger is it uh is the Great Leap Evolution we've been hearing about actually a massive culling which will leave only the enlightened and mentally sound humans left on you're asking my opinion the answer is absolutely no it is not something we're doing to ourselves this is something that is being imposed Upon Us by powers that are Attempting to deceive us and Veil the truth of our humanness from us uh it is not natural EV it is a form of evolution it is not Natural Evolution it's an artificial Evolution

that is not good for humans cutting the CO2 down to 220 parts per million is not good for humans cooling their temperature is not good for humans and sighting Wars between the superpowers to deplete Munitions and human capability is not good for us Breaking the social bonds that have kept us as a society is not good for us all of these when you put them together are the technology replacing biology with technology is not good for us right when you put these together they are all part of a concerted effort to remake the Earth and

to remake our bodies and the human species into something that no longer serves us as humans and the question is who does it serve that's another conversation yeah That's a that's the that's the mystery uh it is a it is an expression a deep expression of evil right that is sweeping the Earth in a in a very profound way it always has but between now and the year 2030 uh to to remake us and our world in into something that is not good for us right something we also covered uh pretty good on the on

the actual podcast um okay uh this guy says Greg has a gift for summarizing ask him what His Focus ask him with all the focus on awakening the masses now that we have a huge groups of people engaged what's next what does he see on the horizon not in a theoretical sense but in actual but the actual effects now what I what I think we're seeing uh in real time is we're seeing the emergence of of two parallel societies we're seeing the emergence of one segment of our population that's all in on everything on the

technology in the bodies around Them all the gadgets all the tools RFID chips chemicals computers everything we're seeing another segment of our society that doesn't necessarily know everything that we're speaking about and doesn't necessarily have the vocabulary that we're using but they recognize that things are happening too fast it's not good for us they want to slow down and go back to the basics and so those are the people I see in my little food co-op that are pulling their kids out of Public schools to teach them their own family values they're growing their own

food they're using medicinal herbs and traditional medicine to heal their bodies and what I I think we'll see and this this can't last long I think we're going to see these two parallel societies check each other out and we're going to say who's happier who's healthier whose lives are more fulfilled and the answer to that question is going to be where we emerge And my senses there'll probably be a middle ground I think we we'll never never let the technology go but we don't have to incorporate into our bodies right we can allow the technology

to serve us rather than enslave us and that's what I see ultimately and it only happens by us embracing our Divinity the the truth of what it means to be human in our human capacities that's amazing man thanks again appreciate you that that was the Lightning round yeah that was lightning rod we we uh we're like we're like three and a half hours in thanks to all the patreons uh love you guys and uh that's it that's all folks good night good night take the rest of the day off yeah sleep tight