Ep. 515 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Tom DeLonge : Sekret Machines : LIVE

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your dad I said so it's that simple comedian Lewis Black today is 68 and uh that's all I've really got because I want to get to Tom Delong on this day in history in 1963 the United States and Soviet hotline goes into operation that thing is Real by the way and that kicked off in 1963 and a fader fact for tonight's show NASA has discovered over 3200 planets all confirmed with 99% certainty and it's NASA take it for what it's worth all right continuing our Week two of pure UFO coverage tonight Tom dong is with

us tomorrow night Linda Molton how Thursday night David Ike but first up let's do it he's in the Batters box Tom Delong he is a musician he's a singer he's a songwriter record producer entrepreneur and a film producer he is currently the guitarist and lead vocalist of the rock band angels and Airwaves and was the guitarist and co-lead vocalist of the American rock band Blink 182 from 1992 to 2015 dong Wrote secret machines book One chasing Shadows a 700 page novel he co-authored with Professor AJ harly though fictional it's written with information dong says he

gleaned from sources within the Aerospace industry and the Department of Defense and NASA chasing Shadows theorizes that alien technology not only exist but that the government has known about it for decades and has even replicated some of it tonight we will talk about secret machines and his Current project poet Anderson and I think we're going to get a little music in for good measure his website of coures to the stars. media and I would like to welcome for the first time on Fade to Black Mr Tom Delong Tom good evening well good evening how are

you I'm doing great Tom and I'm gonna I'm I'm G to let the listeners know out of the gate uh with a wink and a nod that Tom is broadcasting to us from a secret location mobile style somewhere in Southern California and uh for security purposes only right Tom uh yes that that would that would be I'm as secret as it gets uh but my mobile phone uh is not always the best so if you do lose me it's either that I've been I've been snatched and grabbed or my iPhone just broke out just keep

your eyes in the in the rear view mirror as they say right you know what's funny and I'm being totally serious right now I was driving up to do I had to go brief Um two very important people on some some stuff that just happened um over the past week and a half and I was driving north of Los Angeles and I decided to go off and get a cup of coffee and I looked in my rear room mirror and I said you know what this would be quite the time for someone to be following

me because of the last things that have happened in the last couple weeks and so I said you know I'm gonna I'm gonna check my mirror as I get Off the road so I turn my blinker and I change lanes and in like 200 yards behind me this car just changes lanes and then I said okay well then I'm going to change my blinker right back right before it turns off the freeway and just skip that exit so I did that right when I did that that car did it again what and then I changed

to the right one more time then that car did it one more time and then I changed left to the last time and didn't get off on the second off Ramp and then it finally got off but it did it it copied my exact movement like four times and I it freaked me out but then the then you know then they just left you know I'm just going oh my God I'm getting paranoid here yeah right and that's that's not really paranoid that's strange not you the car right I I I'm with you on that

when something like that happens when you are acting in a arbitrary way in a random way they're not acting in a random way Right that's that's strange so uh now listen really quick you get the First Time guest disclaimer and I know that you're a fan of uh of Fade to Black and the things that I do and stuff so you've heard this before but you get it tonight you get the First Time guest disclaimer which is it's just you and I sitting on my couch having a conversation as friends where we start we start

where we end we end but we're going to end as friends are you ready to go I'm ready to Go let's do it I I wanted to uh get a little music out of the way um first and and for the fans uh I want to do a couple of things uh about music before we start to hit the ground running but the one question that I have which is an important one um Poway Blink 182 that era back in the early '90s when things uh were coming together for you and the band did you

guys have any idea at that point that you would have the influence not with your fans because that came and That came later but with other musicians and other bands you know like Van Halen did in the early 80s you know and what they did on the strip and and other bands that influence other bands and musicians and the way that they write and admire you did you even have a clue that that was about to explode on you oh God no I mean I look at like and they play their instruments you know we

we couldn't and until Travis came in the band no one could play their instruments In the band we were uh you know we were barely getting by as any little garage punk rock band would um you know I remember our first show where nobody came not one person and this guy sweeping up this bar where we played comes up and and he's still holding the broom and we're packing up because played to just him and as we're packing up he goes you know what don't break up stick stick with it I hear something there I

really I hear something there And he just kept sleeping you know but that that was all I needed at the time that that made me go man someone likes us you know right hey hey ditch the microphone go straight with the with the secret cell phone okay good okay um and the thing is and the reason why I asked that question is as direct as I do is the the sound and everything that you guys put together uh you could hear on on the radio with so many bands for years to come and that that

comes out of Respect right uh from other musicians but when you listen to other bands were you like man that's us yeah you know but I when I listen to my own band I go man that's The Descendant you know like there's there's Punk bands that we listen to that that we sound like that people don't know exist that um are better you know like that that uh but but um I think you know there's a time and place for everything I think we developed our own style now I Think that we figured out how

to be us you got to do it when you're a band um but yeah you know when the throughout the 90s and through the next decade in the 2000s hearing so many pop punk bands I mean you know it oh it's so flattering and I I you know I was always looking for something more Progressive you know and I wanted to uh two other two other quick questions I'm a guitar player So guitar player to guitar player My guy I I really look up to uh Eddie Van Halen Right he's he's my cat there's there's

yeah he's good yeah there's a bunch of other guys out there for you uh I'm I'm very curious because you developed your own style of of songwriting and playing it's very distinct who was the guitar player that you looked up to it was it would have been you know punk rock guys like Brian Baker Minor Threat and dag nasty he was also in Battle religion um you know Frank Netta these guy descendants you know these are Stephen ederton which was in descendants as well right these are guys that are like that are very riffy um

that are very easy on the solos more power cords than anything you know if if anybody was good at their instrument um me as a punk rock kid was suspicious um we were suspicious that you know you're not really a Punker because punkers have nothing come from broken Families and barely can afford a guitar let them play one you know so the guys that could do solos and stuff were just um we didn't classify them as the same culture as us so I didn't really we it was it wasn't about how good you played because

that that was nothing that's why I don't really have guitar players I up to because I was totally beside the point the point was does the B what does the band emote a feeling of angst rebellion and in and a new view of the World and that's what it was about who who we could care less we couldn't care less about you know how good you played your instruments that had nothing to do with it I guess was a better way to put it yeah and and for you guys the um I don't know how

to describe you because you know saying power pop punk I think is being too generalistic you know but you did have the ability to write choruses that made the the the the world sing right that's difficult to do so That's that you know that's kind of a pop thing but it is hardcore punk and it is your childhood and everything that was incorporated in the songs but that being said what most people I think and critics included uh failed to realize that the musicians in the band were t top top you guys were top tier

stuff uh um and could have branched into other uh uh Styles and songwriting and maybe done a concept album did you ever consider taking all Of that Talent into another Direction well number one I appreciate that you're so nice with your words and and the compliments thank you um you know we did a record that was a self-titled link record that was as close to a concept record is is a band like us would ever do we never we were always fearful of sounding pretentious um or or doing something as a as a vanity project

uh the culture we come from is against those types of things I'm not but you know I definitely got deeper into that kind of stuff with my other band Angels and Airwaves but um that's just something you do as you when you grow as an artist but with blink yeah you know when Travis Travis is the kind of drummer that can play anything I mean anything you could say let's do a jazz song and do it but what we thought was more interesting is like what's a jazz drum beat in the middle of a punk

rock song sound like you know and and That's really where the band started to to to change in morph was what kind you know well this is I mean we were only three guys so I had to play a lead guitar and a rhythm guitar at the same time that's where all my things are very riffy because a rhythm guitar is very simple it's just like a couple chords a lead guitar is usually more complex it's solos and stuff but what do you get when you blend them you get a you get a riff it's

like a very simple lead solo power Cord thing and the same thing with the bass you know Mark wi just playing notes he would he would strum the bass like a rhythm guitar because we're trying to fill up the space when you have that much space because there's only three musicians then Travis was able to get really interesting with the drum beats and the patterns and I think when you when you put all those things together yeah it wasn't your typical power pop band but the vocals were you know so Then people are like well

what is it exactly well I don't know we were doing it you know 25 years ago and guys of mohawks were coming right and then now it's kind of like everyone you know so um there used to be fist fight we used to play and have half the audience in the back of the room was Hell's Angels and the other half were jocks from from the UC Santa Barbara right and they would get these bottles were flowing and riots were breaking out um and all the Punkers in the middle were still in the circle pits

and all that changed when you brought an MTV so you never quite know what's going to happen yeah I it's really funny with Travis he's so ridiculously stupidly talented right you could you could tell that he just if if he wanted to at any moment he could just break off and and he was he was definitely holding back he he was such an is an immense Talent yeah he's uh he literally is the Best drummer I have ever seen like on Earth he really is that good like I mean and I've and I've played with

like really really good two other guys that people think are two of the other best drummers on Earth and Travis is the only guy that can do one song or one take on the entire song the first time and it sounds like it's it's been edited and and no one knows why it's so perfect yeah there's nothing like drummers like that you know they just you know go in Get it done and then they split the studio you know I know I know it's it's it's crazy yeah absolutely this is the thing uh this is

this is what I find uh strange is that your departure in 2015 for this uh new Endeavor an epiphany in life if you will uh comes along and the press and the media was so quick to jump on uh Tom is Throwing It All Away for this crazy thing he's giving it all he's throwing it and and I Don't I never looked at it that way but they I don't know if they did it because they wanted to be sensationalistic in their headlines and the way that you know they wanted clicks or it maybe I

was wrong but who's right here you weren't you're not throwing anything away are you oh my God people have no idea they just have literally no idea the enormity of what I'm involved in right now like I think people You know I think people are just um you know I I I think people look at like something like the band and kind of go that is my ultimate ultimate ultimate dream situation he is so lucky if I had that all like okay what I was trying to say was I I I feel that way you

know about the band where you're so lucky to have it and you just want to protect it and you can't believe it came into your life um but you know there then there's this damn one issue of UFOs right right Where uh where I've been studying it for so long and I just can't get out of my head you know what the hell is going on so for 25 some years I would read every book I could watch every video I could um would listen to every lecture I could as I fall asleep every single

night every tour I went on uh it's just it was an obsession and it never got easier can you hear me okay oh yeah oh yeah okay so it it never it never like lightened up on me so here Comes this time where I have the opportunity to talk to somebody that I knew knew what was going on and so I did something kind of interesting and and you got to let me know know if my phone's uh a little a little a little weird but I took the opportunity kind of by the horns and

I I did something that actually if you know you would see somebody probably do with an intelligence service I went to this Person's um family member and I go hey does your uh so and so ever talk to you about UFOs and this person was a fan of mine so I knew they would tell me the truth right you know they go they go hell yeah and I said thanks but walked away then I said now I'm not going to let this other Let It Go with this other guy right so then I got a

few then I got some moments alone with that guy and this person you know uh I I pitched an idea and and this Person says we can't have anything to do whatsoever with that topic because there has never been one bit of evidence whatsoever that it exists and and I and I asked and I looked at everybody I said can everyone leave the room keep in mind I'm in a secure installation okay I went through machine gun I went through machine gun and it first had to go to a building and get a badge with

my ID and fingerprints then I took that badge and I had to go through guard Shacks with Machine guns then I had to go to a very specific building I had to leave my phone in a box and then I go through two security scanning kind of devices then I'm in a hallway that hallway has um uh speakers playing white noise so you know it's that white noise so no one can hear each other's conversations right then I go through another set of doors that has all these uh electric locks on them and inside there

were like five offices with no windows and it's the heart of the Place where all the real the real stuff happens and it was in that area in one of the rooms where I looked at everybody and asked them to leave except for this one person after he told me none of the stuff exists um as soon as they left I shut the door and I said sir I understand the National Security implications of this I am not naive to this subject and I do know that it is that it is a very tricky and

fragile Subject but I have an idea that I think you will find Merit in if just hear me out I am here asking for guidance and permission before I do this because I do not want to scare anybody I do not want to break any rules and I do not want to do the wrong thing because I'm an advocate because I'm one of the few people out there that believe the UFO phenomenon is much more complex and much more disturbing than most people think it is and then he looked at Me and he and and

oh wait before and then I finished and I said and I think the government has done some things that that is kind of bad with this subject and then he looked at me and he goes what are some of those things that the government has done and I said okay and so I brought up a story and I told him a story that I don't want to repeat here and he goes okay and he rolls his eyes like he like saying something like uh yeah that's a difficult thing that you Just said you know and

he says um and I and then I said well let me do let me do something let me send you some material and just for you I'm not going to send it to anybody else that was in those rooms and let me send you uh some material and he says okay so I walk out of that room and I say goodbye to two other people that were the heads of that institution that work directly under that person and I'm getting ready to leave and I'm still in the most secure Area of this of this place

and uh and they say I said' thank you so much for coming thank you for having me I'll I'll I hope I get to speak to you guys again uh um but until that time thank you and they said well where are you going and I said well I thought the meeting was done they're no why don't you stay a while and then I was like whoa okay so come over here so we walk into another room and we sit down and they said what do you want to Talk about and then I look at

them both totally baffled and I'm like well you know what I want to talk about and they said what's that and they look at me with a smirk and I said say UFOs and they don't look at each other they stare at me they're all so they're real they exist who cares and I say well it's it's a pretty big effing deal don't you think and they go why and so I name off about 10 reasons why and the other guy looks at me he's all I just want to know how They work tell me

how they work and I said well I have some ideas and I mentioned something he says well that's one way he oh it's another and I say Consciousness he's well now you're talking what seated to talk about Consciousness for about 45 minutes hey hey Tom Tom I I got to take a break right here so let's do that we we're gonna finish that's a good place to take a break right there all right and uh our guest tonight is Tom Delong and we're Going to do it all tonight so everybody just sit tight relax uh

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up this you're listening to Jimmy Church radio [Music] [Music] all right Welcome Back Fade to Black our guest tonight Tom Delong and just for the fadera Nots Tom and his team have put together a special deal for you right now you can get secret machines book One chasing Shadows just use the promo code Fade to Black that's Fade to Black with no spaces for 15% off we have a banner up over at the website just go and click it'll take you to to the Stars media and uh while you're there check Out all of the

products and poet Anderson too as well and let's uh let's get straight back to it um Tom when you that that's a very awesome word that you used with them Consciousness right and yeah and and that must have seriously for them uh probably tooken by surprise but to have them concur you knew that you were on the right path what happened next we had a discussion uh for 45 minutes about Consciousness one of the more important things I'm going to share it with with you guys uh of this evening is that the UFO phenomenon is

tied to Consciousness and for a lot of people that's going to be very hard to understand because they think it's this Hokey Pokey spiritual interdimensional like it it's whatever what whatever your mind goes to uh you know when people say the word Consciousness but but what you need to understand is that the universe itself and all things in it um contain some very very interesting properties and life forms and what the UFO phenomenon is connected to has a lot to do with not only with with our us as a life force uh Humanity um what

there's a if you were able to take a person and lay them down and put measurement tools all around their body and measure frequencies but you would you would be Able to pick up the aura you would be able to pick up electromagnetic frequencies that are emanating from the human being and the human being if that person was happy sad angry jealous all those things are certain types of frequencies but for the for the basis of this conversation um let's say all the good things you feel or all the bad things you feel okay um

the UFO phenomenon is interested in the bad Things and it brings along along a lot of bad things but the the good news is that when a human being feels good when a human being feels love a human being feels happiness that energy if if I had the the tools and I can walk up to you and measure it and show you on a computer screen you are you know you you are you have this energy that's like 98.84% Found that out and we are trying to understand it but it's really really complex stuff and

every turn we take we find out something new that might be a lie that might be deceptive deceptive that might be a trick that might be who knows what so you have all these incredibly heroic amazing people working their asses off trying to understand something that Humanity has never had to understand before this whole idea of a bad government or a Cabal you know or um people that are trying just to steal the tech for their own money and secret space program it's just so dumb it is not what's going on it's a bunch of

people like your dad your uncle your neighbors that are read into classified programs and that are you know that are changing their pants every other night because they're trying to figure out how to deal with something that is strange and um and and crazy but there's a really really great set of Things that have come from this and one of those things is understanding the capacity of a human being that is enlightened that has those frequencies of human consciousness that are aired on the side of love and happiness and and the way a child feels

and all that stuff um we're gonna have to accelerate that and we're gonna have to accelerate that in a way that people don't laugh at it you know let me oh yeah go Ahead let me give you an an example you're in the middle uh uh at your house at some point and you wake up and you have little gray aliens in your room and you're being Abu abducted do you know that if you call out the name of Jesus that Abu abduction could stop or if you call out the name of of the source

uh of Galactic love it'll stop or if you call out the name of Buddha in the love that Buddhism has or whatever it'll stop it doesn't matter What you call out it's the fact that you are projecting positive energy and that is something that needs to be understood and studied um but it doesn't mean the stuff's not physical it is there still are spaceships that crash there still are alien bodies there's still you know or biological body you know there's still all these things that come with it um that we can back engineer that we

can make a new spacecraft That we can have a better understanding of time and and and a better understanding of an gravity but there we but it comes with all these other things of human consciousness that we have to understand and it's very very complex and difficult and um what I found myself involved in is a little bit of all of it uh with all these different groups of people that are involved and you have physicists in one part studying you know the The crashed craft and then you have medical doctors studying the medical issues

with abductees or with um people that have come in close proximity to one of these crafts and then you have Aerospace um military people that are that are seeing these things and they're sending up things to go and take that thing out of the sky and then you have um you know psychologists that are meeting with people that have had an experience and they're trying to Understand why that person is having Poltergeist experiences in their house you know or healed mysteriously healed their cancer is gone you know like like crazy stuff they're trying to so

it's it's in all these different places and that was by Design as well so what I did this dumb little rock star I went banging on all those doors and created potentially a conduit for a lot of them them to talk to each other and have you once that started well let me let me Jump into uh Tom because this is uh I've wanted to ask you this for a while and I know that you're aware of it but have you thought about the way that you know Paul benowitz was used and and was fed

information I know that you went in with you know you know your history right so now that you know about these other things that have gone out there with the Air Force and the OSI and Dodie and all those cats right uh you're fully cognizant and and aware that you could Possibly be another guy like Paul benowitz no no no um because I yeah that no the reason I know well I don't mean that to you A lot of people ask me that okay a fair question it is it is because there's things that I

cannot say there is a whole bunch of stuff that I cannot say a whole bunch of stuff stuff that I have I mean I went through this week there were two nights in a row where I didn't sleep and in the reason is is Because some of these different groups of people when my book came out freaked a lot of people out big time like really big time like big time people and they had no idea how somebody as normal as me other than the fact that I was in a band put together so many

facts and so the big deal was who do you know and how do you know them um And and that that um I'm trying to figure out how to say some stuff I can't say I understand what what I have here is connections to to a lot of different what we call stove pipes so when you're in government it's called compartmentalization and they the the the the term they use is a stove pipe where they put things in compartments that they can't leave those compartments and all the stove pipes lead to a very very very

small group of People right and um I went around like the dumbass I am banged on the doors of some very important stove pipes and then at one point a very big stove pipe says who the hell are you you know and and uh and then but I but I I had a very interesting pitch and I said I know that you're all probably freaking out and and angry and nervous but let me tell you what I'm thinking and I pitch something that literally one person laughed out loud And says this might actually work and

that's something uh will take place over the next handful of years now what what I have to do is respect the fact this is a much bigger issue than me this is a much bigger issue than any of us in our little tiny little brains reading dumb conspiracies online and running around on forums and just coming up with all this stupid stuff about you know this group of people and globalists and alien agendas and reptile presidents And just stupid stuff and we all have to sit there and go okay let's be mature about it we're

humanity and we're dealing with something and we're in a very very pivotal time in in our in our Evolution and we're going to be learning some things and dealing with some things that we always thought was magic or we always thought were fairy tales or we always thought was mythology it's not the case and there's a reason all those myths exist and we're going To figure out a way to accept that stuff and it's gonna it's going to inevitably cause Humanity to explode to a new place that is going to be wonderful it's going to

be wonderful but it's going to be a little tricky how we get there and uh what I but the what's really important is that the message is right because if some comes out and says all of this the wrong way it's like it's like me going to one of my children and saying you know what I don't want to Talk to you about Isis uh but how about I just go on the internet and find a video where they beheading people you know it's like you know you don't want to do it that way you

know Isis exists but guess but guess what we can go and drop a nuke on them if we want to so it's not like Isis is like more powerful than we are you know it's that's not the case but it's bad news at the same time you know so the way you talk to your kid is super important um and and that's Really what's been going on for 70 some years is figuring out you know strategies to co to comprehend and outwit before we educate if that makes sense and you know what's interesting here Tom

is that going to different uh webs I'm talking about you know fans or researchers that they're going and and reading about The Reptilian president or what have you the cabal uh it it is that people uh are searching for answers because they know Something is going on they're not accepting exactly right and so ex exactly yes and that's that's the other part of it and and so with you and this is what I find uh very very interesting is that you uh you and I think a lot alike in that you have you have a

a a fan base that you influence and it's it's not a 70-year-old fan base right from the old school we're talking about uh uh a a younger generation that is open-minded and understands that Something is going on and when somebody like you speaks to them they're going to stop and listen and I I think that who you are dealing with now recognizes that fact and you would absolutely you would be a very very important conduit for them to if there was going to be a plan to move forward that somebody like you with that because

your fan base isn't going to look at you like you're crazy they're going to go man I I know he's talking sense right that's I I I hope so I hope that's what they think I mean I I don't expect I really don't expect people to believe everything I'm saying right now by the time we start releasing some more stuff in the future including the documentary stuff and major Motion Pictures and uh you know um non-fiction books that's we have a non-fiction book getting ready to drop here in in the next couple months people are

going to start to go wow holy cow you know he's he wasn't lying and I'm going to sit there and look at all the people and go you guys have no idea where I'm at and who I'm dealing with and they could talk about it all they want and they could write articles about it and they could say stupid stuff like I quit my band to find aliens no that's not what it is I'm doing something for the country with very important people that will affect the whole world and I made my way in there

with with with an kind of an with a plan That I think may help I don't think I'm going to change the world I really don't but I do want to be one of the Sparks uh with a lot of other Sparks that do that and um when that fire ignites it's going to be pretty effing awesome and and um and it's not because that we're gonna come out and say you fos are real well guess what UFOs are bad news deal with it they just are but they're going to come out and say this

is what we found out this is what we did and this is what We're doing and this is where human race is going and guess what Consciousness uh is incredible and guess guess what there is a God but it's not a God that looks like Buddha or has Birkenstocks or whatever it's you know it's it's it's an infinite beautiful energy that connects all of us that creates Stars okay that creates galaxies like it's a powerful energy and that energy is very important and when Humanity figures out how to be more in touch with that and

I don't know How yet like I I'm not saying I figured this out I just know the UFO phenomenon is attached to that subject and when I was in behind machine guns and four layers of crazy doors and in a secure facility that is all the head scientist wanted to talk about I want to uh I I I'm writing down God doesn't wear birken stocks I'm just I'm I'm writing that is that that should be like that should probably be like a t-shirt a t-shirt a t-shirt no I'm gonna Do it first I'll license it

to you know you know who's gonna be really angry at that comment is my mom yeah mine too oh dude I grew up in a Christian household my mom my dad wasn't but my mom was and so to this day she I mean I'm I'm literally parked in front of a church right now right now I'm I'm parked in front of a church and I'm looking at this this church sign I'm just like God there going be a lot of people that are pissed yeah expect a Light expect a lightning bolt Tom expect a lightning

bolt and um uh before we head to the I want to come back after this break and I want to get back into the Consciousness and the technology part because I find that interesting and and a couple of things but I read once and I need you I want you to tell the story we have 5 minutes and I think we can get it in I read once about you camping and I think it was at Area 51 and when you you came running out of Your tent in the morning can you share me share

with us that story like a and the idiot I am I I did something that I don't want to say here because I don't want other people doing it uh of trying to have um an experience and it worked and uh I woke up in the middle of the night with hundreds of voices spiraling through the tent but I had that sleep paralysis where I couldn't move and I knew at that Moment I was really in over my head because I was awake I was I was awake as I am now but I can't move

and I hear hundreds and hundreds of voices but I can't make out any words I close my eyes and I open them again and the fire is out and two or three hours has passed you know so let me give you an idea of something that happened not too uh kind of recently when someone comes from a certain place and sits down with you in A very private location and says there are no coincidences with the phenomenon I need to know about your contact and that's a true story and so I had to go in

spend 10 hours talking about it and and a lot of other things a lot of other things uh but it's you know people can laugh but when you talk to um let me say I could say this I was briefed on a matter and it was a very important event That went down and the description of the event was part military part spiritual so how do you what do you walk away with that what do you what does that mean what does that mean you know yeah and and that's really that's really how people have

have to look at all this stuff don't break out the Bible break out every ancient text and put it all together and then come up with a hypothesis you know and it it's not it's Not spiritual like the religions we built on those texts it's spiritual like many bands of light in the universe and many things we can't see unless we have night vision goggles on and a flashlight or something there's a lot of things that exist here that are real and you just can't really see it you know it's and and it's all very

normal biological physical stuff um but uh we call it spiritual because we can't see it when it's 2 in the afternoon you know growing Up in in Poway and for people that are listening right now uh that area San Marcos you know that area uh is a very very beautiful part of of San Diego and it's it's mountainous and it's beautiful and it's Suburbia too as well it's that um but it's it's a beautiful place did you see something in the skies when you were young that that uh started to maybe throw you down this

road no that's the thing you know I don't know where it started but I I I Know when it started and I know it was the seventh grade um but it's the biggest biggest you know I had the most important and the most almost the most scared I've ever been not too many um not too long ago where someone sat down across the table from me and I had to do some really hardcore explaining about my about my project okay and leaning across the table this person pounds on the table and says this is the

story of the Millennia and I will never forget how it was said to me because that's exactly how I felt my entire life was this um and you could you could tap your foot for yes uh once and then tap your foot no uh for twice for no um let's just startop I'd rather you not even ask I'm being I'm being serious I don't know what you're gonna ask but I'd rather move forward move on okay all right I I I'll be light with it is this was this a military Guy uh military is what's

no let's just move forward we we talked about this before the call and let's just move move on yeah I'm just trying to visualize the room you know what I mean um okay so uh we're going to take a break right here Tom and when we come back I want to jump back into the Consciousness side of this and the reason why I want to do that is I have always thought and this is what you alluded to and I think this is a Very important point for for everybody uh when if we are dealing

with ET offworld civilizations uh potentially a million years more advanced than us how could we possibly even remotely understand uh or comprehend what we're dealing with it's not what we're dealing with today in our technical uh life that we live it is something that is far more advanced than us and consciousness is they would have evolved into Something that we don't understand yet and I think that's very important and I want to really get deep into that right after the break our guest today is Tom dong this is Fade to Black I'm your host Jimmy

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the book right now for the next seven days just enter the promo code Fade to Black with no spaces um I wanted to ask you Tom really quick uh you gave us about a two-month timet for the uh the Non-fiction book to drop what about the documentary you know the I we had it almost ready um to launch a piece of it right but let's just say in the past two weeks there's a lot of new there's a not of there's a lot of new things to consider and so I got to get it right

and I got to rethink some stuff and uh yeah let's just leave it there but I want I want to I want to correct something about our little conversation About God doesn't wear birken stocks because I know people are going to freak out when I was going to church every Sunday morning every Sunday night and then being dragged every Wednesday night I had all that same exact belief structure I was GNA burn in hell if I didn't do something right and that um there's a war in heaven and there was you know just all the

the standard stuff they teach you in Bible school I I mean I was a hardcore kid because I was Forced to be because my parents but that's what I was born into that's what I believe um when I when I started touring with my band and we actually went to the Middle East and I saw all these people in religions that were like way older than mine and I was and they didn't give two craps about my religion theirs is older and their way into I was just thinking like what makes mine the right one

and theirs the wrong one um other than I can point to certain things But but really I don't know enough about all the world religion so I kind of left the idea of God so here I am just turned 40 and like for many years you know when I was a kid I was like I was all into you know Jesus and God and then I started touring and I was like H I'm not into any of it it's so bad it's like more that you know the Christian religion has killed more people than any

of all the wars put together you know so I was that kind of guy well now over This past year I've come back again but it's different so I'm not here to tell people there's no God I'm telling people I am three trillion percent that there is a God absolutely I will stake my life on it and it is absolute with me but it is not a person and it is not some dude that wears a toga and floats up into the sky and makes Jupiter it doesn't work that way it's it's the way Einstein

described it where it's all the physical laws of the universe summed up into one It's beautiful love of Consciousness that's in the center of a galaxy that explodes out and creates stars and those Stars create planets and on some of those planets little human beings pop up and all those human beings have a ball of light somewhere inside their heart or their mind that is getting a direct radio signal from the core from The Source from God and and that is truthfully How the Universe works and I and and I think what's going to happen

Here is when everyone realizes that they're going to stop and put their guns down and kind of go I'm so sorry for shooting you because I was kind of talking about the same thing as you but I put a person before the God and my person was called Jesus or my person was called Allah or my person was called you know whatever I don't know and and and they're going to realize go no no no it's the thing that all those people were talking about oh it's that bigger Energy oh yeah that's why when you

you know that's that's the kind of stuff that people need to imagine but it takes the human race to leave our planet and see a solar system and see a Galaxy and a nebula and kind of go wow no human created that you know right it's a it's a it's a it's a power that creates black holes and binary star systems and nebula and like like crazy things that are I mean who created the sun it's millions of times bigger than than the earth and It's trillions of hydrogen bom bombs going off every second that's

a lot of power right who who created that right you know something powerful that's my point does that make sense yes it does 100% And and to that end what do you think about the the last three months with uh uh different uh astronomers coming forward about this discovery at at at you know kic you know whatever and and light defraction out there and this you know SEI this week announcing this a Signal at 11k of all things you're a musician you're a producer you know 11k is the frequency of symbols right you're mixing a

record you want to sweeten up a little 11k on the drum set right I know what 11k is this is a radio signal in a narrow band at 11k coming from a star and it it seems like there's a lot of chatter right now uh and and the discovery of a Proxima centori last week of a habitable planet out there the star closest to us oddly Enough is the is the last planet we find is the one that's closest to us right so find is funny yeah yeah it was hilarious but there's a lot of

chatter right now about uh alien life out there that we're searching for um and wouldn't that be isn't that serendipitous right right isn't that isn't that a coincidence right uh so once again I know what the hell I'm doing all right I didn't just walk off a stage you know in front of 100 thousand People to go do dumb I know what I'm doing and I'll tell you that how it was told to me the universe is teaming with life okay teaming not just like hey we might find a little bit over here and there

teaming you intelligences at all different levels on different planets you have organic intelligence which is like human beings lots of humans super Advanced humans super humans with telepathic powers and some humans that are just like us some humans are are Cavemen you also have inorganic beings you have beings that are on Rock planets and gas planets that don't that Oxygen's poisonous to them right you also have weird bands of light that are alive that swim like worms and the vacuum of space the way a whale does in an ocean okay you have amibas amibas that

are floating around sucking up energy those amibas uh are could be as big as Jupiter or they could be like a Volkswagen you know it's like it's it's teaming with life and we Were we were so stuck on ourselves that we never looked up you know and and I think what's happening now is we're looking up and and there's a very small group of people that looked up a long time before everyone else and had to get it understood and then they would go to NASA and say okay it's okay for you to look up

now you know so it's uh it's it's it's an interesting story man it's it is the story of the Millennia it really is it's it's Incredible do you have night vision I do and I have night vision and that I can't even leave the country with had a fill out State Department Pap it's so funny I bet you so funny oh is it now um I I know that you've heard about our little experience and that mass sighting we had out of the contact in the desert a few months ago and and what I saw

out there I I can't I'm not even going to try to explain or hypothesize what I saw all all I saw is what I saw and it uh it Seemed to be going back to this Consciousness thing it seemed to be for us at least I kind of felt that way I've never had an experience like that before but when I threw the night vision on this thing that I was watching leave the atmosphere it took about 5 minutes and I'm watching it it's obviously a physical craft I can see the shape of it and

and kind of the surface of it and stuff it looked like green Chrome is the way I I've been describing it like a Christmas ornament right and now it seemed to be for us like they were winking at us I really kind of walked away with that feeling is that because of the Consciousness that was there the Positive Vibes that we were throwing off I mean is is that is that a possibility I have no clue I'm just throwing that out let me tell you uh it's playing with you okay okay and that's not a

good thing but everyone There wants to see one so bad that it's going to perform for you right and you don't want to be doing that uh and I'm not saying all life out there is bad I'm saying is people just don't understand and that's why it's time that people understand and the whole you know there isn't only one type of UFO either it's like you can't sum it all up and say there's only one type of human being right um but what you don't want to have Happen and this is honestly check this out

you want to know why I got brought in to the most secret uh groups ever is because I went in there and I said you know something's wrong here let me tell you the way I see it and they said okay I said the way I see it is you have something flying around and every once in a while it lands and performs a miracle and it creates a religion it goes up in the sky and it does something crazy and people Kind of love it and clap and whatever but when you really look at

it all the religions are different and all the experiences are different and what happened after that well we just started killing each other right we really started killing each other and no one stopped to all look and go wait wait what did you see what did you see what was that thing that did that dance oh my God you know like oh my real God what is that thing and uh and I said so so I I I Went to them with a thesis called a cargo cult cargo Cults were in World War II where

indigenous tribe that have like never seen man watched planes come in and drop off ammunition in a jungle and to this day they still worship those planes they're worshiping the cargo I said we're all cargo Cults me and Peter Linda uh created this thesis for the non-fiction books but I went in there and I said so the first thing it does is it creates religious experiences then it Dances in the sky and Star of Bethlehem type stuff and you have all these different religions now and now everyone hates each other and and and now we're

all killing each other and then get this and then it happens to crash and it crashes in a few different places a few different countries in a few different ways and then what happens we got better weapons of war now Pig weapons of war yeah now now we have the nuke you know now we Have anti-gravity crap now we have all these things and so I'm sitting here telling these guys this I'm going something smells fishy to me really fishy and right at that point when I said that you know is when I got a

a a communication that came through that says meet next to the Pentagon on this date and this time I'm telling you it's dude my life has been like unreal for the past year but it's like the most Exciting and nerve-wracking seeing at the same time because I'm so in over my head I don't even know what I'm doing but I just know that there's something that can happen with young adults and people everywhere to realize and put down their weapons you you know what I told these guys I said this I said when I was

in high school I wanted to be a firefighter so like I was in this firefighter Cadet program and it all was well until they wanted me to do like Push-ups and and and they were like yelling at me like I had like I was like what is it the military you know funny so I was like I won't do that but what was interesting that I never forgot is when you were there when you when you have a fire you don't spray the flame with water you spray the water at the fuel of the fire

at the bottom whatever is actually causing the fire and you know what no one is doing is spraying the fuel of the fire on Earth right now Of everyone killing each other and and I go well what's that fire it's belief systems what's responsible for the belief systems lights in the sky religious experience Joseph Smith on a mountain Jesus or this person or this thing or whatever it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it's always something and it's always different and it's always unique to the time period to the person who saw it and to the

to the region that it's in and it causes a Feverish um fragmentation of mankind and that is by Design so right when I said that is when I got some very very very serious looks and they said we're going to introduce you to some people and that's how I got in because I hit the nail on the head and guess what they know this there's a a couple of uh pictures that uh have been posted out there of you um and oh oh I wanted to ask you Really quick uh what was up with the

Bigfoot Instagram yesterday I know how weird is that right I went to happy I went to that place with a bunch of buddies a couple years and my fans know it because I was like instagramming this trip we wanted to go just do a boys trip we said well let's go find Bigfoot if we're gonna well the only thing we proved was he was not there like where we went that was but when we when my my the the way reason we went to Happy Camp Was one of the guys my buddy was he goes

oh I have a cousin who's a firefighter up at this place called Happy Camp and I was like well what's Happy Camp he said I don't know it's like up there like hanul County or something or on the border of Oregon in California and he's all but apparently they just saw Bigfoot like two months ago so they they sent us a a picture of the footprint and then we were like we made t-shirts a bunch of beer and we Said we're going to Happy Camp and we're gonna find this smelly beast so we went up

there we didn't find anything which was funny but every once in a while I'll like Tech I'll like Instagram a photo and bring up Happy Camp to the friends that you know to the fans that like followed it well two days ago my buddy's cousin saw Bigfoot and K that photo the the photograph I'm gonna tell everybody right now I'm looking at it right here from Tom's uh Instagram page it is bleeping incredible now tell me about the photographing your friend it's almost Tom you know what this is too good to be true right it's

too great I know I know so the guy was with the fire crew as a ranger fighting the fire when that happened that's like fresh so it's it's like and it's from like like one person away yeah no no no I mean like it's only like a like my my really close friend it's like his family member or Something like that it's that close it's that it's not far removed you know it's a big deal you know okay do I have your permission to can I tweet this out to the audience really quick so they

know what I'm talking about oh yeah yeah I don't care it's it is uh it's okay I'm just going to tell everybody it's Bigfoot standing on a trail um uh in the woods but he's out in the open um I don't know how far away this is Tom but I'm gonna say 50 yards Maybe I know it's not that far you know and and if yeah it's not National Geographic quality but damn you don't really see too many that look this good though you know I know and the fir you know like I said it's

just it's it's too good it's great and I don't know how to uh um explain it other than that uh so I'm going to Tweet it out I'll let everybody else so they can kind of understand what you uh what you're trying to describe here so this was Taken two days ago yeah something like that it might have been a few more days then I got it two day two days ago or something and it was taken a few days before that it's it's it's it's like this past week kind of thing um I don't

have the exact details on it but it it's it's the real deal this this I didn't dig this one up I dig things up all the time hey if you guys ever want just to be entertained follow my Instagram you never know what You're gonna do uh I'm gonna go ahead and uh I'm going to do uh to the stars in this too I'm going to go ahead and copy you in this so uh we can make this official but it's uh it it it raised an eyebrow for me it is it's almost as good

as and I know we're kind of building this up a little bit but it's almost as good as the Patterson footage I mean it's it's that good yeah it's similar to that yeah well this is the thing I will tell you You know what that there's two things that I learned over the past six months that will never ever escape me number one all the ancient myths and texts are right and true and you have to somehow go through them all to figure out what is being said and this and and and and the the

powers that be phds and high ranking people and all the top top top top people um know this about those texts and all that stuff but that the world is magical the universe Is magical and once you accept that and once you sit with a guy that has multiple phds and he's like a fourstar like general you know and he's sitting down describing to you something that sounds like like a science fiction movie Magic like ridiculous stuff I mean ridiculous stuff like like like I was on an email chain with five people and I cannot

tell you who any of them are that kind of group okay and they were relaying a Story where these guys were sitting at a table big big big time um government official from from one of the Middle Eastern countries and this other gentleman and this other gentleman that was a friend of the of the government guy from the country they were in and the government guy was like Hey Hey show them your magic trick show them your magic trick and the guy's like no no no and then the guy that was sitting at the table

whom one of the men On the conversation knew was like it's all right you don't need to show me but at the end of the dinner the guy stands up he's all I'll show you the mag trick and he goes go into the kitchen and grab anything you want so the guy leaves the table walks into the kitchen and he grabs a stainless steel uh fork or spoon or something like that and he walks in he goes put it behind your back he put it behind his back and it bent in half in his hands

the guy bent it in half With his mind not not not the guy that was doing the bending but the guy that was the friend that was holding the spoon I know it's hard to describe the government official brought a friend to dinner right tried to get that friend to perform magic for this guy that's from the United States and and at the end of dinner the magician says go grab something out of the kitchen to the American and the American went in there and grabbed this Thing and he says hold it behind your back

and he did and and he stared at him and thing just bent in half in his hand i'm and then the the government official from that specific country says I told you my point with this story is if you knew if you just knew who this American was you would be crapping your pants and the other thing is if you knew who was telling me the story you'd be crapping your pants magic is real magic but it's not magic it's Consciousness it's the Ability for the human mind to do wondrous things that we had no

idea could happen but it's also the ability for other life forms to do wondrous things we didn't think were possible right it's just physics you know and and and uh humanity is going to wake up pretty soon and it's going to be amazing it's GNA be really really amazing and we're so close we're so close to it you know I want to announce to the network now I'm not going to take a commercial Break this is my show and I'm having fun and that's it so we're going to go commercial free right here unless you

need to take a break Tom oh God I I'm just sitting down yeah good okay now do you have any idea through your contacts how long we have been visited 100,000 years 200,000 years 2,000 years do you have any idea how long we've been visited that's a really really good question um there's a little bit of Disparity a little bit in certain stove pipes remember IAL talked you about the stove pipes sure there's a little bit of disparity because there's a whole whole hell of a lot of science that's happening in all of those stove

pipes and they're coming to different conclusions it's not like something crashed it's an alien it's something crashed it's an alien oh my God it's not wait maybe it is but it can do this well no no no maybe it's this which still Kind of makes it an alien but it's like so it's a lot of that kind of stuff going on right and uh in some of those stove pipes they've come to the conclusion this is what's this is what so crazy but I'm going to say it that Atlantis was real and something was very

important about that time frame and very important about who the humans were at that at that place I think and I am totally guessing because I haven't Taken this I'm taking this question to a very specific person that that is big time that just came on as an adviser to me two days ago it's going to be the first question I ask him and I cannot ask till the end of September um because I can't communicate with the guy except face to face gotcha and uh but my first question is going to be is did

the UFO phenomenon exist at the time of that Civilization or at that time were we powerful enough to repel it Because of our Consciousness and and I got to get to the bottom of that because there's potential that Humanity at that time frame was so elevated none of these life forms these parasites could mess with us it's a legitim know it's a legitimate legitimate question right yes it is and I'll tell you why and again this is my opinion but I have interviewed you know over 500 people right and the the best And the brightest

and and I've gleaned a lot of information in study myself and this is uh this is where I agree with you as why that's such an important question just recently and I'm talking about since uh we can go with the invention of the printing press okay and move forward from there um but today all of the distractions that we have Internet television cell phones and and so forth uh pull us away from using our brains but back then you know 600 years Ago and beyond all we had was our imagination and our brains and our

Consciousness and we focused on the self and so when you go back that far and go back to ancient Egypt and and the dawn of civilization throughout that period the the development of the Mind was key the self was key and that we've let go of that do you understand what I'm saying we've totally let go of the ability let let oh don't even get me started right right I I let me inject Some adrenaline into that because it's very on point the UFO phenomenon has a hive mind okay these creatures are they potentially don't

have souls uh they're like clones and they they are they worship their own technology to some degree but they feed off fear and negativity and the the one thing that they cannot stand it's like dropping you know it's like it's it's Like dropping your own jumping into a pool of acidic like nuclear waste that would incinerate you in two seconds is they cannot stand the frequency of elevated human consciousness right so what's the best way to keep us from elevating our Consciousness you crash a craft and the transistor pops up and you get video games

and iPhones and all these things that you walk around like what a cyborg right a soulless little hive mind all getting direction from Devices now we go no way because I'm visiting rollingstone.com and you're visiting like whatever and and someone's playing Halo and the other person's watching Jurassic Park you know on the movie theater that's not the point the whole point is is that we're so focused on these things that you're not closing your eyes taking a deep breath realizing that the present moment is great realizing that you're part of a connected system like the

damn movie Avatar where the thing's alive you know the whole planet's alive and all the trees are connected remember that movie oh yeah it's that kind of thing it really is that kind of thing do you know they studied depression on people that walked out of Avatar because people were so inspired and then they walked out and they were in just like a a bad little parking lot with oil stains and realized that their Earth isn't connected because it's supposed to be our Earth is and We're supposed to sense that but I'm so stoked on

the fact that I have a thumb print slow motion on my iPhone that I don't really stop and notice you know right and like and trust me I'm as bad as everyone else I'm not saying I'm I'm just telling you I know what the hell is going on because I'm being briefed on it and they're trying to figure out you know how do we how do we do this how do we snap out of this you know and I said well I have an idea and they said that's A pretty damn good idea and it's

not the one idea that's going to work for all of this but it's gonna help you know and that's what I'm doing when when you when you bring up Atlantis like you do this is this is what I find interesting where technology has actually helped us and that is we now uh can go and search for our own answers right we have the world a click away from going out and investigating and we're finding out that the Dogma that we have been fed is not True and that is that goes with history uh that goes

with the sciences that goes with space and so forth that we are able to go out and find out these answers and one of the things that has happened is gock Lee gockley wasn't supposed to exist right man started at 2500 BC and and 3,000 BC right and now here we have gockley Tey 7,000 years before Egypt right and Mesopotamian and ancient Zummer and that opens the door to a civilization before that that taught the Civilization of GOC Lee the Arts and and and know that they had to uh build that complex and that opens

the door to the possibility of Atlantis truly existing it it not only did Atlantis truly exist I believe I just I think it's cyclical and what I think is I think Humanity has risen and Fallen based off of Deceit and design of the UFO phenomenon and I'm going to tell you a story that I've never told anybody have you ever witnessed an act of Violence yes I way yes I have like real like an act like something that's disturbing yes because I I was shooting this short film that people haven't seen yet and um I

was sitting on this bridge and on the end of a bridge and this lady comes up to me and she goes oh my God someone's standing on the edge of the bridge down there and I was like wait what and she's but I don't have a phone so I took off running so I sprinted down this bridge and I was hundreds and Hundreds of yards away from anyway it's just me it was a really big bridge and I and I run down and I see these hands on the rail it's kind of like a taller

concrete Rail and I'm standing there and I'm out of breath because I ran down there oh hey man there's this guy on the edge on the other side of the rail so I'm like 18 inches from him and um are you okay he goes yeah I'm are you stuck can you come back over here he goes I can come back over and then I realized At that moment he didn't want to come back over so I I said well hey let's just take a deep breath here for a second let's talk and I look at

his hands he goes don't you touch me don't you touch me I don't want you going over with me and then right at that moment I go oh my God and then he looks me in the eye and he says what I'm about to do I'm completely good with and he jumped what and this is a true story right in front of me no one Knows this I've never told this to anybody and it was the most horrific thing I've ever seen in my life ever um I didn't sleep for a couple days just like

you know I would just like cry I was just like it was the most disturbing negative thing I've ever seen and it was just me no one else two people were running up at the time and saw it happen from like 30 40 yards away but this guy was 18 inches eye to eye You know right so do you think I wanted to go play a video game where people shot people up do you think I wanted to go watch a movie where someone jumps off a building and in slow motion dies no of course

not because when you when you actually witness it it is just horrible like it's like it's like asking a soldier that just came back and watched his buddies get blown to pieces and go dude let's go watch that Saving Private Ryan or something you know like and Where they where they spend half an hour just recreating it all and it's like I don't need to see that I've seen the real thing but the problem is is that all of our movies and all of our video games and all of our dumb YouTube videos somehow keep

perpetuating it in a very video game kind of way you know it's cinematic It's Entertainment and we laugh at it and we pay money to experience it until you experience it for real and you go man something is not Right with humanity and guess what the top top top top Echelon of people within the United States government and other governments know this and they know that it's happening uh on on purpose you know and as soon as we decide to stop doing that it's going to be a completely different world completely but the problem is

is we do have you know we do have terrorists we do Have weird dudes building bombs and doing this what you know we do have the problems we have you know but hopefully not for long you know and and I and I think when you ask me isn't it weird that we're finding planets and we're talking about audio signals coming in from space and NASA is talking about going to Europa and all I go yeah it is interesting isn't it and I'm saying that with a lnk right something's something's coming and I know about it

I know coming It's going to be great you know what's what's interesting uh here Tom and listening to you is that i' I figured out something that I've spoken about uh a lot on this show I figured out something about this was about a year ago maybe and I'm out doing uh conferences and speaking and and and heading out and when I would go and do these things uh you know for 3 or 4 days I'm busy and I'm too busy to turn on the TV in the hotel you know you get back And you

just crash I'm too busy to look at CNN on my cell phone and I disconnect from the news right the fear porn and I find myself physically in a better place I'm I'm talking about a physical sense right and I would come back on Sunday night and you know get off the plane and come home and uh you know with my wife and turn on the TV and CNN hits with you know the Isis beheading videos and I physically physically change and I was like you Know what I'm going I'm going to stop doing this

I'm I'm can I tell you what can I tell you why because that changed the frequency of how you feel and guess what wants you to feel that way right that's my point yes yes yes yes this is this the universe is teeming with life there is a life form that wants you to feel that way so don't feel that way and then free and clear you know it's it's so it sounds so strange I get it I know it sounds that's why do you think I'm Trying to whiteboard out the entire thing and documentaries

books and movies because it's a difficult thing for people to understand on in one conversation it sounds like it sounds like stupid magic you know hokey pokey stuff I get it I get it but why don't you sit with the guys I'm sitting with and tell them they don't know what they're talking about you know is like it makes sense it all makes sense it's unreal man it's like we're so C we're Capable of something insanely good and we're just around the corner from it we're so close you know and what do you think um

I I don't see uh our president whoever is going to be the next president for the next four years or Obama right now or in the future I don't see somebody stepping up to a podium in DC going okay uh we've been lying to you uh there we've made alien contact it's not going to happen that way how how how is it going to Happen it's going uh then that and that's where I it's and that's where I have a lot to say that I can't say I will tell you this it's not going to

be the president or congress the government the government um is doesn't deal with the UFO topic the way you would expect they would right they're not in charge of it the way you expect expect that they would be um it's a it's a it's a tricky subject Um and you know with very very competent heroic people and I'm not saying that because I was told to say that I'm saying that because I know what the hell's going on and I step back and go oh my God I don't want that job I do not want

that job and if I was ever given it I I don't know what I would do I would I don't even know I have no idea so um it's a responsibility and it's you know it's it's unreal where a few people wear the burden for everybody else so you can Go to the movies on on a Saturday night and laugh and drink and and and have a radio show and do your thing and be happy and go to the walk on the beach right while other people don't get to do that other people are walking

around with a briefcase with multiple phds and they can't even sleep because they're dealing with something that's really difficult and um and I think the respect that we need to grow back for Our institutions is enormous you know it's so easy to hate the government because you listen to Ed Snowden you're kind of like wow but yeah there are bad apples that's like you know that's like the police the police do something wrong but as soon as someone's breaking in your house you call the police you know like you know I hated them yesterday but

I really wish they're here right now you know there's you're gonna get all the you know different arrays of types of People um but uh the UFO topic is not being covered up by government the way you would think it would be it's not I'm telling you that right now well how so well how the UFO cover up obviously there's something going on and we speak about it and we Rec it's tangible this is not an intangible thing no no um it it it just doesn't where it exists and where it's managed is in a

different type of Mechanism I'll just say that okay you can't blame the normal institutions that you think are are like Godlike power you know you can't go and say the CIA knows everything and they control everything right it's not that way it's not that way with this topic the entire Globe is involved it's not just the United States sure we want to know something that's really what Really awesome the United States is the leader the United States is doing the majority of the work and pushing everybody and you know why because we're the first country

for the free mind for the Free People there's a reason because we were the enlightened idea of a people right and that idea spread and we call it democracy we call it Western Civilization but even on something that is a pretty big ugly deal America's Still leading leading for the countries that hate it like right all the countries ha us we're out there fighting something for them you know so it's like it's it's unreal man it's like it's really it's really inspiring it's really inspiring I'm being dead serious like if you can't tell that I'm

telling you the truth right now with how I feel then God help us all right you know hey um I was uh I mentioned a couple of pictures that were posted and there was another one of You with Bob Lazar and uh that circulated what did you talk to Bob about I might as well I might as well let you all know that uh secret machines is putting out Bob's autobiography and that will be coming and it's a very important piece of all this and I can't get into it now but you will be reading

his book here very shortly when uh I I have uh over the years since he first broke I mean going Back to Omni magazine in the 80s right I have tried to catch Bob right I've tried to tried to bust him and and and I haven't and I today I firmly believe uh that he's telling the truth I I do I'll I'll I'll I'll go to the mat for Bob I really will um when when you said down and talk to Bob and obviously uh you have when you look into his eyes what do you

feel and and how do you feel about Bob the man I think Bob the man is enormously Credible I think Bob the man got hired to do a job but he didn't know that he was being used to do something that was very important and that important thing was twofold that all of the work with the UFO phenomenon was happening at Area 51 as for in that UFOs are from Far Far Away and both of those things aren't true and that's what you have to look at but he was showing the stuff he did work

on the stuff he was there I think that's Why people need to read the autobiography I can't wait yeah that that I can't wait that's that's like the best news of the show so far believe it or not as Tiny as that was that's uh that's pretty exciting stuff and and going back to Bob and that technology uh I want to know your opinions of when we look at the Petro dollar and fossil fuels and the way that the world runs today and the knowledge that uh the government uh possesses and Potentially possesses that could

free us of all of that um is is that why why aren't they releasing at least something to relieve not only the fossil fuels and I know money that's involved but it would relieve pollution and and a lot of uh uh uh poor people around the world would have energy and so forth that they wouldn't be able to have you know why why not let that technology go what's your what's your opinion it's I don't have an opinion I Have the truth I know why and two reasons okay there's two number one reason is how

do you think we Finance the defense for this subject we need all the help we can get the second reason is the technology itself is not hidden from us it's not hidden from the people that are paying for it it's not hidden from you and I and because people want to like hoard the patents who do you think It's hidden from UFO they don't want the UFO to know what we've accomplished it's a game interesting and people gota people got to get off their their soap box and think that all these conspiracies point to people

ripping them off of money ripping them off of knowledge or it's like it's all ego-based dumb stuff that these guys have no time to deal with you know They're dealing with something that's hard enough as it is and they don't need to stop and come to your living room and saying I'm not trying to make it hard at the gas pump for you you know it's like it's you know go go go like you know go to war with a 19-year-old and see what's important when he's being shot at right you know it's like that's

the point when so the the break the breakthroughs that we have are competitive advantage to the to the battlefield if that makes sense Yeah of course it would and it it it always uh uh seems to come down to that too as well you know the basic the fundamentals of all of that um but when I saw what I I I I've seen a few different things in my life and I've photographed a couple of things and I'll share those uh with you uh privately but when I saw that craft take off out of contact

in the desert the only thing that uh was going through my mind is uh that right there because I'm I don't see Flames I don't see wings I don't see smoke I don't see I don't see anything traditional with any kind of Rocket or helicopter or jet aircraft it it wasn't any of that it was a technology that quite frankly we we you and I Tom dong and Jimmy church are not exposed to and that is what was strange to me and that's you want me to you know let me let me read you something

I just asked one of my Advisers how something that doesn't exist in this dimmension as we know it can create a craft that looks very physical and and probably is very physical you want me to read the answer yes here it goes I'm reading something to you straight from the source using nanofabrication Atomic layer by atomic layer with durable nanotexturing and quantum entanglement properties and of course powered by the polarizable vacuum same methods that Cryptoterrestrials use does that me like there's a way you know I just got that and I was like okay got it

there's a way you know whatever that means whatever that I'm I'm a guitar player man I have no clue what I know I know it's so crazy the whole thing's so crazy it's so crazy it's and people kind of go why aren't you playing those same songs every night I want to play these songs for a second and see what they sound like you know is it Gonna you know what I have to ask you man is this gonna influence your songwriting in the future oh my god dude you got you have no idea what

I have in store it's gonna absolutely but look isn't it fa check this out you know isn't it weird that I'm learning these things about human consciousness and how it repels negative things or whatever and and and my band Angels and Airwaves did the double album in a movie called love Yes right as an experiment as an experiment right because it was an experiment of intention I saw some dude freezing water molecules and he would write on a piece of paper he would write love or hate or whatever and depending on what he wrote on

that piece of paper he would tape it to these little jars of water and under the microscope if he just wrote with a pencil love the water would freeze in these beautiful symmetrical crystals if he wrote rape or Hate or War they would be these gelatinous blobs that look deformed and so I said well let's name this whole project love and let's write it weird with a little astronaut sitting on the moon and make it esoteric and when people look at it they all know what the word love means so there's going to be an

energy projected towards it and let's see how good it does let's see if it matters let's see if it that's a good art project and it did insane it did Super good and and and um a lot of what that band is about is that kind of stuff you know but like now I'm like tripping because I was already kind of doing it and now I'm like learning that's like a real that's a real thing that it's like it's like a real thing that the military and the intelligence Community uh and other areas of the

dod know about and take very seriously that the human spirituality component of Consciousness and the positive Feelings of love and happy is very important and and very important it's as important as drinking a glass of water when you're thirsty you know what I'm saying it's like and it and it can be affected by by tones and frequency and light you know yes or someone walks in the room and you go God he's got bad vibes right that's like real you sense it you know hey have you uh are you hip to Michael Lee Hill uh

no okay he's a he's a guitar Player he's really good but um he turned me on to uh a440 not being 440 but 432 are you hip to that frequency you know what I know that you people do a lot of these things where they change their tuning for a guy like me that's so so hard to even findun you know you don't you don't you don't mess around with those important numbers on that tuner and and what he did 440 when you Look at it on a spectrometer is a mess right but you bring

it down to 432 and it goes into Focus it's like the trippiest thing you've ever seen so going down and tuning down those tones uh to 432 your guitar and everything vibrates uh together dude it'll blow your mind it will freak you out so just just remember that 432 and bring it down those eight semitones do you like the bumper music that I've been playing uh On the show yeah I do well I hear I mean I hear some solos in there someone's got the hot fingers uh but I didn't really I couldn't there's one

that sounded really cool that almost sounded like The Pretenders or something but I couldn't I couldn't place it that's uh uh it's me no it's not I'm I'm messing with you no that's Doug Aldridge you remember Doug Aldridge I don't oh okay yeah he's uh He's one of those I grew up as a skateboarder Punker kid I I my parents didn't listen to music my dad list like sports radio and stuff you know what's funny um how I got into radio was because of uh am 690 in San Diego right 9690 yeah man and I

used to when I drove to San Diego I used to work for elisis right you know Alisa the the you know the music company and so I would drive to San Diego a couple times a week and I would listen to am 690 and Back then you remember hacksaw Hamilton and and uh and and Jim Rome started off down there and am 690 that sports radio station and you know exactly what I'm talking about changed my life that was like the greatest station ever yeah it was I I I don't know if it's still running

today but now um now uh we're going to be headed towards a break here I do have to take a hard break when I come back uh I want to set up a few things one uh Roswell and I Think Roswell is an important Roswell is an important subject to talk about because I think it is the beginning of uh the LIE right the genuine lie that we're being fed today and that just info but uh I want to talk about a couple of other incidents around the country um that that are historical UFO events

and and what's your take on them and if they you know quite frankly if they really happened or not and who do we believe here do we believe the witnesses or do We believe the official uh Dogman government stance that uh uh we have uh been fed over the years and with that when you look back historically because you're a historian of the subject what's the one event to you that stands out the strongest where you go you know what right here this is the one we need to talk about oh uh and you want

me to answer that now you want yeah we're going to talk about It after the break but what is that one event potentially starfish Prime the nuclear test in space really you're going there okay okay wow Tom dong coming in strong folks okay people I people you better listen to what I'm saying people better listen to what I'm saying they better I'm telling you if you're interested in this stuff listen to what I'm telling you no joke well well let's take our Break right here I'm going to jump in right here our guest tonight Tom

Delong and like I said Tom has something to say what did he just say he's got something to say he is on a mission we'll continue the conversation right after this short break I'm here is Jimmy church this is Fade to [Music] BL way out here we listen to Jimmy Church you're listening to faint and black always on the edge of the hottest Alternative talk Jimmy church with Fade to Black kgo.com [Applause] Raz food for liberty.com sells highquality storable foods from new mana and right now take advantage of our summer special purchase two family packs

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the middle of his worldwide wakeup tour and he's going to take a night off and hang out with us over here on Fade to Black but right now it's about Tom and so operation starfish Prime I can't believe you went there okay go ahead and tell everybody about it uh well for people who don't know that was a nuclear test quote unquote test in space um and we learned quite a lot from that test um it was the main test where we really were able to study and learn about EMP um this was also happening

during oddly enough the Cuban Missile Crisis that's right 192 when when the whole World was focused on the Cuban Missile Cris crisis something else was going on and that something else may have brought something down and that something that brought down may have may have we may have learned a lot about that uh about EMP specifically and its ability to catch things that are hiding if that makes sense yes it does and That's always uh for you have to be deep in uh in your research to uh get to what Tom is talking about here

now the the tests were done there were high altitude tests that were done out over the Pacific and could you imagine Tom like living in Hawaii and watching that thing go off in the atmosphere like that oh my God it's like you would think that like Jupiter was like crashing into our Sky you know it's like it's a big deal and uh and it's just it's just unreal um I Think one of the the you know everyone has to remember what happened once we started playing with nuclear weapons UFOs showed up everywhere every time and

every time and and and you got to think why well there's a big reason why because new nuclear weapons will f up those little those little ankle biters that and they know it and uh and even they as advanced as they are they can't get away from it and um makes you really wonder Why we did so many nuclear tests it makes you really wonder why we did like 30,000 tests all over the world and oceans underground up in the sky and why we all have so many nuclear weapons it's a it's a big deal

you know I'm not going to say it's all for this but I was told something really really really important the entire Cold War we were working with the Soviet Union we were together with them and it was the one thing that kept the Cold War From going hot was our relationship together on this issue we weren't dumb and just went and lit up a nuke when we were in a standoff with Russia you know the Cuban Missile Crisis whereever oh my God we're all going to die and we said well then we might as well

do a nuke test you know it's like no it didn't work that way they knew we did the nuke test they were probably in the room with us when we did that test because there was a small group of People on both sides that were trying to do exactly what they did which was fly SWAT some bugs out of the sky I want to talk about Roswell um and not deeply I just want to uh go to the factual side of the event itself um with uh with your knowledge and research uh did we uh

glean our like you said earlier the transistors that allegedly went to Bell Laboratories um and technology and did that event actually Happen the Roswell event did happen um and see a lot of stuff is going to be coming out in the next book and the reason is is so we can take some time to really place it and let people understand you know how it how it unfolded um now what we found in starfish Prime was different than what we found in Roswell okay um but equally is important but a whole another story all in

itself if that Makes sense and that's all I want to say right now okay okay well uh after you're done I'll uh I'll glean my comments you know um only what's what's interesting uh about all of this is that in the last 100 years since 1900 until now uh to 2016 and you're a musician so you'll appreciate this but somebody that was born in 1900 right and lived to the rip old age of 70 and he died in 1970 he would have gone from and witnessed gas Lamps uh horse and Buggies to the invention of

the automobile all the way and Vaudeville right and the avention of uh uh radio and music and and then stereo Tech all the way from that to fraking Led Zeppelin and Jimmy Hendricks right all in one Lifetime and that's a crazy thing for somebody to witness that's a lot of Technology rolling out and for somebody to feed me well you know uh it's just that we're smart you know and we just got here you know what That it was such a leap of of things to go from 1900 to 19775 to going to the Moon

it is an incredible thing to witness in one Lifetime and quite frankly maybe we had had some help and why does everybody want to uh you know poooo that and say that that isn't possible when clearly that's not the case right and and but you have to I'm gonna I'm gonna one up you here when you refer to help help can be a variety of Things okay so I'm going to explain to you what help is help could be a crash now a crash of a vehicle could be because we shot it down because lightning

brought it down because they faked the lightning bringing it down or they faked that it got shot down intentional or unintentional okay so always remember every event was it intentional or unintentional the other way help can happen is contact is a direct contact Are you led to the contact or is the contact led to you okay the next way help can happen is do you have indirect contact do you have the thoughts put in your mind because you're a laboratory you're upell laboratory and you're a scientist you know or do you have the thoughts put

in your mind uh you know when you wake up one morning because you have no idea what event trans transpired uh that evening when You were sleeping I'll one up you one more I I I'll raise I'll see you and I'm going to raise you I'm going to one up you one more what if that all of this leaps and Technology was quite simply programmed into our DNA and timed to release itself uh in a linear sense that's I think that's interesting and and and I think it's definitely debatable I believe that the DNA molecule

shoots Information into the source and and our experiences and our feelings the DNA molecule is very rare for that job and that's why the DNA or there's something about the genome that is that is desired by other life forms that don't have that power right that connection I agree you know I do I totally agree okay I want to raise you one more yes um have you look I understand That uh you were inquisitive and you kicked down some doors and and you confronted you know some people I get that part but have you given

uh thought to uh something maybe above that and maybe uh it maybe more Divine and maybe that that you were chosen and you have stopped and asked yourself why you uh yes if you look at my career let me give you a really scary thought here so this is how I view myself and this is something I've never told anybody at Least no one's listening right now right right right right um okay so I started out my my name is Thomas Matthew dong and the Biblical name of that means truth Seeker did you know that

I didn't know that my mom my mom has said that to me my entire life right uh but that's all guys like you and I are after right the next thing that happened is I I started a rock band that spoke to a very large demographic of people not Fringe you know people but it it was kind of Grabbed a hold of a very middle class kind of group of people that have tremendous influence on others um and during that time I was always hungry to create businesses uh because I never really thought the B

would go anywhere so I was growing these businesses and learning a hell of a lot but none of the businesses ever really did that good that it made me leave the band or you know um or or or not do them they do well enough for me to want to do them at The same time it was weird but I learned very specific skill sets in both things I learned how to talk to very large audiences and what large audiences desire but I also learned how to make a product and and digitally and wait how

to Market it and how to name it and how to digitally connect it to somebody that wants it and how to um have a relationship directly to those people outside of like you know corporations and stuff whatever but then so you take Those three things some kid that's always after the truth that learned a hell of a lot about making a product and selling it and and doing it in a relevant way and also being in a band that that has a tremendous influence of communicating the world back to young people in a certain way

you know you would step back and kind of go then it makes perfect sense what you're doing right now with this project perfect sense you're communicating the truth Through your own business so you can have a direct relationship with people where nobody can get in the way and and and and convolute or disrupt the message pretty weird right yeah it is and do did you develop uh that confidence because you didn't fail too many times you managed to uh to succeed so does that build your confidence and and that you know that you can go

ahead and do something that would Work no i' I've had failures I mean I've had a handful of companies that totally failed that people probably don't know it it but I just don't look back you know like I I'm the kind of guy that goes oh I want to do that you know wellow that sounds cool and I'll work everything I have on that one thing I'll jump in head first and then it doesn't work and I kind of have to deal with that for a week and I go okay well why didn't that work

well what if I did it This way with this idea and kind of you know it's like I did this technology site called modlife it wasn't a site we built a platform Pearl Jam still uses the platform Kanye used it 9ish Nails used it for the longest time all of Jack White's banss White Stripes Third Man Records they all used it it was a way to monetize the art but it was too hard to scale it can never really get that big because all the bands were were wanting their own version of it or whatever

but Uh I learned a hell of a lot I learned how to do a what's called a direct consumer sales platform how to build it how to maintain it and how to understand how to sell the Arts you know um but I also have a really cool shoe brand and that was a lot of marketing a lot of cool photos a lot of cool logos a lot of cool contests and concepts of how to get you know kids interested in you know people who wore shoes whether was Muse or as Green Day or or other

bands that We worked with and and I'm and I also did some really hardcore surf and skate companies that didn't go anywhere you know but I learned how to talk to a Fickle audience I learned how to deal with people that think something's un cool as soon as it gets big you know um so you take all those skill sets and and you and you blend it into what my company to the stars is doing now which is the same kind of stuff but when you step back and kind of go you know why You

I can I can make a very very predictable trajectory for for the past 20 years leading to this moment to the people I'm talking to very very like you know easy to understand but the reality of me steps to the side and goes how the hell did you get here did you get here because you have ADD did you get here because you have brass balls the size of Texas did you get here because some really important you know high ranking officials heard of blink but don't Really know that it's like you know like not

as cool as their nephew tells them it is or something you know like I don't know you know like like the celebrity only gets you part of you know I can get to anybody I I made one phone call and I met president Obama that's pretty cool you know like but it's like what you what do you do after you get that door open is is a whole different story I mean I could have walked into that first meeting that I told you about and said Uh come on man dude I know that aliens took

out the World Trade Center come on dude you know I could have said something stupid like that no I didn't I walked in and I was very respectful and I was humble and I was um patient and I was eloquent and I was flying by the seat of my pants you know but uh but um it all worked and and you know I got approached by I Can't Describe these people uh to I don't want to describe I'm not allowed To but there's I got approached by a a very very important person over the past

two weeks um and this was a big deal this is a big deal because it was the first time that someone of this type of category came directly to me and said you know what the hell are you doing okay and after two days of that two days of talking hours and hours and hours um the person was you need to keep doing what you're doing it is Genius and all I was doing was saying how do I entertain an educate people on something they would never believe if you told them at a coffee shop

you know right they would never believe it well what do you part of it yeah and and what do you make of uh there's there's two things that uh we need to address directly one the success in the proliferation of shows like Ancient Aliens the show that I'm on you know Hangar One of of the the 24hour alien Agenda programming that is on multip M channels today we have that and and it's a success because people are watching therefore you have uh companies that are paying for commercials that's what drives Society right so right there

there's there's it's a it's a tremendous success people are starving for this information how do you explain that the boom of uh the alien agenda on on mass media this is exactly it's it's not good and I Said this to this guy that I was sitting with that I just told you about I said this is the issue nobody is addressing the fact that there is no mechanism to teach people people like you come in and they go through these cogs on the wheels and then they come out and they learned things they dealt with

things and it's a big deal but they never stopped and said how do we take this knowledge and Elevate humanity and I and I said and Because you haven't been doing that you have shows like Ancient Aliens and every other thing out there that's coming up with these bizarre ideas that aliens built everything and now people are not you know or now people are for a lack of a better term worshiping aliens aliens built everything aliens made us aliens are the gods aliens this aliens that and I said that's what happens when There's a vacuum

and it got filled with something that is no good so we're going to come out of this thinking that aliens are good and they're not you know and uh at least this one specific race I'm talking about so and I call them the bugs because you know why I call them the bugs because other people call them the bugs you know so my whole point here is we need something different now if there's a TV show that just talks about like events Like this happened and this happened and there's some questions about it that's one

thing but when there's a TV show when it sits down and it's not it's just glorifying you know abstract ideas that aliens are responsible for everything right just because it's filling in the hour and people are chying that's bad that's bad news this is a real topic you know this isn't like this isn't just some weird New Age topic that we like science is proving that you can have Orgasms in your sleep or something you know I don't know that was a joke and I didn't mean to go off on a tangent but I'm being

serious you know like well and so am so am I and the thing and I hear you but it's also better than not pushing the agenda forward right so it's a paradox no no I mean let me let me be clear that um people are not to blame they just want the information right so they're they're going they're going to wherever they can the people on those Shows aren't to blame because they want to find the information too and they want to get it out when you step back let me tell you how these guys

think when something of of of magnitude happens do you want to know what the because I've been in these discussions do you want to know what they say when they look at each other what a great recipe for war ain't it yeah right that's what they say absolutely that's The term so so when so when someone like Trump pops up or anybody that says weird comments that might be bigoted or might be prejudiced or might be whatever and I I'm sorry people like I get it let's not let's keep politics out of this it's not

like I like any of the candidates so don't get all weird about it my point is when any candidate of any country pops up and is divisive and inflames things and there's rhetoric that causes issues these guys look at Each other and go what a great formula for war ain't it it it always comes down to that and then you tie in dollars right and it all fits together you know where I'm going with this I do 100% it's a UFO thing y it's a UFO thing it's it's implanted ideas and suggestions and gamesmanship it's

a chess game well and then we have we're trying to beat the we're trying to beat the chess game and then we have we're and and Tom uh before we hit this Break oh and I have one important I'm going to keep I'm going to keep you in extra 10 minutes because I have one specific question after the break uh that will be our closer but is this we have uh we have Obama and Kimmel we have Obama on Ellen we have uh Hillary on Kimmel we have uh uh bill on Kimmel uh podesta with

his uh with his famous tweet uh last year and and him pushing forward um uh and his inquisitiveness about's the answer is Yes the answer is yes there's a reason and what is it what do you think well I I well with Hillary I think it's for votes no I know well it's not I I mean look it's important it's very important that uh you know someone that takes this matter seriously wins but absolutely she is not mentioning that for votes because that's not something that gets you Votes and I'm telling you right now that

I know why I do know why when you ask me about the candidates doing stuff like that I know why and it's and the reason is it's time so it's going to start coming and people need to listen up and be inspired and be inspired for all the things that I said they need to be inspired by we have to change the way we treat each other because it's not our fault it's not Humanity's fault that Humanity hates each other it never has been their fault they were designed to hate each other and so we

got to put the weapon down and go oh I get it I I'll tell someone I I'll tell you why I agree with you Tom I didn't mean to cut you off but I'll tell you why you are right and that is this if we if we were told a as as a planet if we were told that we were alone that there has not Been any alien contact that that we are absolutely it and unique in the known universe you know what that's the most depressing thing that you could tell this planet oh horrible

horrible now if we find out and and that and and something happens that you know what indeed there is life out there and we need to make Con we need to move forward now we have a reason to live as as a race and to become one and together yes and and that's the that's the difference And that's why I agree with you and I'm telling you I am telling you once again listen to my words that is what's going on our behaviors were designed to hate each other so we wouldn't all put the weapons

down and grab each other's byy arms and look up and saying you bastards you know like they didn't want that you know divide and conquer and and and guess what at some point here it's change and everyone's going to Stop and look up and say holy cow wow we were duped you know 100 these guys over in these guys over in Iran in Syria are our brothers but you know we were LED astray the same way they were you know and but the problem is is we still do have those issues we still have Isis

you know it's not like that's going away but you got of have to wonder and you have to understand what's fueling that hatred and it makes suggestion m displacement Holograms you know religious experience It's like all that stuff is what's is what created it it makes you wonder if Ronald Reagan was not only right but seriously sending that message when he made that speech at the United Nations which is exactly what we're talking about right now yes yes no do you think even moreon it just went up there and started saying I mean I get

it you know he's like an older dude that said crazy but no I mean it's like no no he yes that he knew What he was saying okay we're gonna take and guess what oh last thing I'll say is guess what what him and Russia him and gbro were working together they were you know 100% 100% listen we're going to take a break and listen this is what I'm going to ask you after the break and I just want your quick answer on this and there's a reason why I can't do it now we're going

to have to do it after the break and then we'll let you go which is this I want your uh I want your take on The Black Knight satellite think about that during the break Tom and when you when we come back I want to hear your answer tonight Fade to Black our guest Tom Delong I'm I'm GNA force him into another five minutes and we're going to get his take on the Black Knight satellite I'm your host Jimmy church I'll be right back after this short break [Music] hey what up y'all girl bial Fox

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still recording more music than I ever have I still talk to the guys in blink all the time uh I talk to Travis just a few days ago and uh we'll figure it out there's going to be more Blink 182 there's going to be more music from angels and Airways and I'll get back on the road here shortly um but right now I just gota I Gotta complete some big stuff so that's that's great so the door is not closed on Blink 182 no no I'm I still own it it's like like people people forget

that I like you know that I had to be okay with the way the situation is now and I am I'm totally fine you know it's it gets weird in the press a little bit but I get it you know it's it's hard for people to understand but I'm you know I'm directing a major uh film in a like a Few weeks like I have crazy things I'm doing and you know I'm busy I'm a busy guy now do you uh uh just really quick uh do you ever go back and watch the old videos

and go man we were out of control I mean no you know what's funny is like those videos are nothing like the the the tours that we were on and the stuff that I saw like on those early tours that the bands we were touring with were doing like running around naked smiling is nothing when you just got off tour And they're like lighting drumsticks on fire in their butt like that that was like I was like dude nudity is nothing like well this guy did dangerous stuff near his butt you know but uh it's

just I've seen a lot of really crazy stuff and you know when you look back at what what we did on those videos that nothing compared to like what we were a part of you know in the punk scene growing up well it was a lot of fun you know that's the thing that was in all of the videos You guys definitely did not care about what people thought you guys were having fun and the music stands on its own but uh the videos are were always very fun to watch yeah no I get it

I trust me no it was funny I we had fun we had fun all right Black Knight satellite uh Pepsi did their their 10-minute film uh which I know that you've watched a few times uh they did their 10-minute film with Usher and stated at the beginning of the video That everything you're about to see is true or I think they Ed the word true or facts um and that you know that's a that was a heavy promotion by Pepsi um uh in conjunction with uh the way that our uh group of uh Fringe alternative

uh media looks at stuff it was all in that video uh what what's your take on the Black Knight satellite and why did they make that video well number one you know I don't have any take on the black Black Knight Satellite I'm sorry but I you know to end on a lower note where like I don't really have anything to say about it I know nothing about it other than the folklore but number two it's not ever going to come out with Pepsi nothing is going to come out with Pepsi or or like some

big like something dumb you know like it's gonna come out in a very elevated kind of prestige kind of way okay like these Guys you the guys in charge are so smart and so serious and so overworked and deserve so much credit that they're not going to say you know what maybe we do it with Pepsi just doesn't work that way you know well uh uh can you uh just for me right I'm being a little greedy here in in your in in your moves that you're going to do in the future drop the Black

Knight bomb on somebody and see and see what kind of reaction you you get out of them either it's real or it's not you Know that's the thing yeah well I'll tell you this um I actually you know this thing is I have so many questions that I got to get through that I have to think about how I ask them when I ask them and to whom I ask them too it's like it's an art in itself how I'm doing this I mean like it's it's really really out of my comfort zone um the

way I have the way I where I'm at these days and I have so many important questions because I I I Get laid information that is just insane like insane like the thing I told you when someone says oh it was part military and part spiritual this event and I go what the hell does that mean right what does that mean right you know I didn't tell you what the event was because I can't but to me I got to sit there and kind of go what would this super super high ranking military man be

talking about spirituality for it like you know like something you do don't Think they do you know but they do right and um you know you just think they're no they're military so I got a gun and I shoot it and you know it's like no they're not yeah what are you doing talking about religion you know that's the last thing you should ever think about you know let me you want to know something let me tell you something really interesting I got a high note for you you want me to you want me to

end this on a high note Absolutely my number one advisor which is this is how I describe people If there really was Majestic 12 whatever it's called this guy's on it okay and during this interview I stumbled on a word couple words a few minutes ago because I got a text and this is the text that I got if I say to you one day that I no longer believe in the metaphysical reality of God how would I answer a later question Asking if I ever felt the presence of God go oh that's heavy I

know these guys are so gnarly smart so off the charts the best so you know they don't they don't go out and release information with Pepsi they don't do things that are stupid they don't make mistakes you know they they uh I'm really blown away man I'm really blown away and I told them I said said if people knew anything about you guys Or about this Con this this this whole topic uh it's going to reverse the cynicism that people have about government and all of the relationships of government and all of the Academia that's

connected to government it's going to it's going to reverse it people are going to believe again and they're going to believe you know in us as as humans working together because the way we've come together on this topic with other countries we're not supposed to be Friends with is really inspiring it's actually the first thing that you've heard in a long time where you kind of go damn like people are mature and and and all believe in something and you know caring about everybody you know it's cool Tom as you uh go down this road

and I you know of course I want you to be safe but are you ever concerned about your safety there's there's always the bad element out there too as well are you concerned About that and and and what do you do about it um you know that's a good question and the answer is I don't know what I don't know and when you don't have all the information your mind goes crazy you know starts coming up with scenario because you've seen too many movies you know um you're dealing with the biggest topic on Earth the

most Secretive topic on Earth the most explosive top topic on Earth and then you're dealing with a phenomenon that is extraordinarily powerful you know like like like Gods the gods you know like that kind of thing not God but like with a little G the gods of ancient myth right right that's what they are right and uh and so you have to respect it all and that's why I went around banging on doors asking for permission because I was Scared to death of the whole thing you know um but I think I've done it right

and and uh I'm still believe it or not in the process of asking permissions so just wash clely and see what happens you know if I just stop talking about it all together and I don't come out with a second book then you'll know that somewhere somebody said it's not the right time right right that's exactly the point Tom thank you so much for taking the time tonight it was uh it was All of that and more and and again I know that I was pushing you but it's my job and and just thank you

so much for coming on tonight and uh lazar's book when it lands in the n fiction uh when it hits in a couple of months too we'll get you back on the show and uh and we'll continue the conversation but until then be safe and keep rolling that rock uphill don't stop thank you thank you so much Tom Delong everybody now again I want to uh Uh let you know that uh Tom and his team has uh this special offer for all of the fedna Nots and that is secret machines book One chasing Shadows you

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man thank you Tom dong great conversation that's all I've got wow and this is the thing with uh with that conversation everybody uh go back and listen to this again and again and listen to the words because he said an awful Lot that's the point you know granted and I will give this to Tom um and especially in this world that we're in you can't just go and and Yap away and give away sources or any I'm not even concerned with with any of that uh some of you are and I get that but but

that's not it it it listen to what he just said and it's it's very very very interesting and it's not uh it's it's not what we've heard before and that's what's important here that was uh that Was a fascinating conversation for all of us and and a lot to take away and digest okay and uh listen to it again just listen to his words once again thank you Tom for coming on and opening up that was uh that was two and a half straight hours of uh some very serious conversation and there you go yeah

it was much anticipated and I and I I got more out of it than I thought uh was actually going to happen and uh there you go uh wow Okay oh man I've got to go back there's a couple of important stories here um and the phone lines are ringing and I see that uh I'm not going to take any calls uh so you guys can just uh stop right there um but uh is is this several authorities now just listen to this really quick and this is like uh uh although you haven't heard this

story and it's not been on CNN or I don't know I don't watch CNN anymore but or any of the mass media but ju just listen to This several authorities have charged dozens of Southern California postal workers and their Associates with maale theft embezzlement and an array of other crimes as part of a sweeping investigation into criminal activity at the United States Postal Service a total of 33 defendants were charged in 28 cases including one individual who was found to have had tens of thousands of pieces of mail in their possession and this is according

to a Statement released this past Friday by the United States attorney's office for the central district of California and if you've ever wondered where your mail has been going or you were expecting something and it just never showed up in the mail and and you're contacting and you're just wondering what is going on just listen to this arrest warrants were issued for six of the 33 defendants postal carrier Sher Naomi wanabi 48 years old was found to have more than 48,000 pieces of mail at her house the mail was supposed to have been delivered on

her route in Placentia in another case Nicole lwood 45 was charged with maale theft for allegedly stealing medications sent by the United States Department of Veterans Affairs to Veterans Justin Brewster a 25-year-old United States Postal Service male processing clerk is a accused of stealing video games that were mailed to Or from the video game rental service game Fly Michael Smith 43 years old allegedly took money orders from Mail envelopes and prosecutors said that Geral Garcia 33 stole at least 166 cell phones I'm not making piing this up it's an unbelievable case and it's something that

we are not going to uh hear the end of anytime soon and again Uh everybody I I see the phones uh we're out of time I don't have time to uh take any phone calls we'll uh we'll move everything on to tomorrow night and also I don't know how we're going to do uh fader night we have a David Ike in too as well so and tomorrow night Linda's on with this so and I know this is a callar driven show but uh it's just the way that it is I gave you two and a

half hours of time to long tonight all right okay now listen to this it's a voyage That everybody would have dreamed of uh not so long ago but now thanks to climate change a luxury cruise ship has undertaken a journey that will see it sail through the once impassible Northwest Passage that's right the North Pole Santa Claus during a month-long trip that is drawing uh a ton of excitement but also criticism right now with environmentalists but you know how they go the ship is called the crystal Serenity which set off from seaward Alaska on August

16th with nearly 1,000 passengers and it is scheduled to dock in New York on September M 17th the ship made its last Alaska Port of Call this past Sunday stopping in Gnome Alaska before heading farther north accompanied by the RRS Ernest Shackleton a British Supply and Ice breaking vehicle The Voyage marks the first time a passenger ship this size sails the Northwest Passage where warmer temperatures and melting ice are opening up the Arctic And now it looks like and this is one of the most pristine places on Earth by the way it is it is

absolutely beautiful breathtaking and untouched but it looks like because of global warming you're going to be able to sail from Alaska to New York whenever you want and it it'd be funny if uh this was dealing with the South Pole and we could talk about uh the uh the the flat earthers but that's for another time the Federal Bureau of Investigation has found breaches in Illinois and Arizona's voter registration databases sure enough and is urging states to increase computer security ahead of the November 8th presidential election now investigators were also seeking evidence on whether other

states may have been targeted they don't know the FBI warning in an August 18th flash alert from the agency cyber division did not identify The Intruders or the two states targeted United States intelligence officials have become Increasingly worried that hackers sponsored by Russia or other countries may try to disrupt the presidential election now going back to climate change and this is a big one for me everybody it looks like climate change will weak havoc on the coffee industry in this Century it will reduce the land fit for coffee production by half impacting the livelihoods of

120 million of the world poorest people this is according to a report by the climate Institute commissioned by the the fair trade Australia and New Zealand and it is uh it's dire news for coffee farmers who tend to be poor n number one and primary Growers of the commodity and they can't really adapt without help but the news is this the coffee Powerhouse Nicaragua scientists believe could lose much of its growing areas by 2050 and in Tanzania uh will reach critically low levels by 2060 just as bad though is Wild coffee wild coffee is important

to the genetic diversity of farmed coffee we need it to exist but check this it is expected to go extinct by 2080 and that is some of the craziest news that that I can read to you man SpaceX is finally sending a used rocket back into space uh they've gotten pretty good at Landing their rockets and SpaceX now uh towards the other half of its Plan they are there to build fully reusable rockets and they're sending one of its used Rockets right now back into space the cargo for the mission will be a communication satellite

from sces and it's called the SC10 thanks to the success of the landing missions however SpaceX has its choice of several rockets that will become the first to go back into space the company previously noted that the very first of the company's Rockets to successfully land will be Held on for display instead of blasting that one back into space by the way spacex's storage hanger and I've seen photographs of it uh for its launched Rockets well it's packed to the ceiling and they've got quite a few to pick from this has been Fade to Black

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