Triggered LIBTARD Attacks, INSULTS & Doxxes Andrew After Losing A Debate only to get WRECKED

both of you. He go I think he goes first cuz I I started right. Yes.

Go for it. So yeah, just incoherent nonsense. Kyla's position is that the feds if it was the case that they they wanted states to be able to implement religion would have come up with some kind of bizarre compromise where the entire panroestant [ __ ] uh who lived inside of the United States would have all agreed to adhere to.

Uh it's bizarre. It makes no sense. It ignores the historic context of all forms of the compromise which happened due to the articles of confederation.

She didn't know anything about the very amendments she was talking about. She doesn't understand the government structure whatsoever. Anytime we got into these various uh dilemmas when it came to what is unamerican, what is not, she just appealed to vagaries when it came to the various ideas of what it was that we were even discussing when it came to oh this this whole thing is unamerican.

This is what's American, this is what isn't. Um, the entire appeal, even for how it wasn't Christian, didn't actually make any sense. The idea was just you can't rule with Christian ethics because Mikail says that you can't because I executed it that way because of a Grippa's trilmma.

It's bizarre. Not only that, the Yeah, that's true. The entire thing you claimed was why are you going out of your way to interrupt my closing statement?

I wouldn't do that to you. So, anyway, yeah, the whole point here is like she did she said that she just executed it to mean that Christians can't rule their ethics. She's literally said she could not point to anything in the Bible except that even the passage she pointed out the one she points out she concedes immediately.

Yeah, you're right. That's because he's bowing to Satan. The next thing is she can't she couldn't point out the contradiction of kings except to say, well, the entire reason for that is because God wasn't ready to seed that people didn't need a king yet.

And the second we came up with the new idea of democracy in America uh or western nations or the nation state, now we're prepared to not have kings anymore and that's what God prefers. It's the most bizarre [ __ ] that I've ever heard. Not only that, the entire idea that we could have moral facts within the idea of agria's trilmma is [ __ ] absurd.

It literally is a reduction to that. Um so like the whole thing to me was incoherent. But I guess the most incoherent part was I still don't understand how it's unAmerican for Christian nationalists to uh to take office using the confines of liberalism in order to impose laws that they want.

That's literally what America is. It's designed for this. It's just a system at this point.

And it's not even co it's not even a coherent position because she concedes that all the states were able to make laws which regarded the ideas of the institutions of religion inside of the states. She even seeded that it was mostly due to the 14th amendment. States did not give up this right rather the feds took it from them.

She also continuously equivocate or not equivocates but in this in this case makes a conflation that federal power is somehow less important than state powers or that was a bizarre part too which I still don't understand the entirety of the system even if I seated that the uh founders didn't want to have a federal national religion which I did 80,000 times even though we kept going back to it uh they didn't want to impose one on a state specifically because the states didn't want that as part of the compromise. So, I don't understand why she thinks the system wouldn't drastically be something completely different if we didn't have the checks and balances between states and the feds. The rest of it was me just pulling out incoherent worldview after incoherent worldview, which was fun, I must admit.

But ultimately, like the clips from this are possibly going to be the most amazing that Crucible has ever produced, I must admit. So, for that, I do thank you, Kyle. Yeah, I guess to start this, it's unfortunate that we didn't have a pickle jar so we could see if you're still strong enough to insist on the force doctrine.

Do you want to arm wrestle instead? Do I want to arm wrestle? Yeah.

Do you want to arm wrestle instead? No, I didn't say that. I You were Well, I just want to make I just think it's interesting.

Hang on. I want to make sure. Are you interrupting my outro?

You interrupted mine for $1,000,000. Did you want to arm wrestle Kyla? No, I think that you'll probably although if I did the point then what was the point of that?

The point is that it's the force doctor. I just wanted to take a shot at you. That was the point.

Do you want me to continue or do you want to keep interrupting my outro? Go ahead. Okay.

So, I think one of the things that's really frustrating when talking to Andrew is that he's really, really smart and he's actually really capable of engaging in good debates. In fact, my favorite debate ever is when we both agreed to be in good faith. The issue is that Andrew knows that in the case of like philosophy, he can't win the argument uh by being good faith.

So, he has to insist on straw mans of my position. he has to be bad faith by pretending that he's granting my worldview when he's obviously not granting it. Um, which is unfortunate.

It's frustrating because when we have good conversations where we engage in with one another honestly, that's what like furthers truth. And I think that that's something that honors God. I think it's something that's interesting.

Um, and Andrew didn't want to do that today. I think one of the things that's really important to pull apart here is that insisting that the your partner is incoherent, that they're stupid or [ __ ] um, doesn't mean you're right. It just means you're mean.

It just means you're mean and nasty. And you can be mean and nasty. The issue is that your entire platform is built on this presumption that you're going around looking at non-Christians and calling them dirty, degenerate [ __ ] while a you barely tell most of Brian's whatever fans that they're also degenerate [ __ ] as men.

and B, you look around and you won't remove the plank from your own eye. You have gluttony going on, right? You're addicted to cigarettes.

You drink all the time. You're overweight. I'm not interested in telling other people all of their sins because I mostly have the predilction of trying to figure out my own and trying to be honest before God.

I think that, for example, it's bad for Christians to impose our worldview on others. I think Romans, for example, if you go to Romans, right, if a person believes an action is wrong, then performing that action is a sin for that person. This is something most priests believe.

This is actually why, for example, priests won't tell people what blaspheming the Holy Spirit is because they believe that if they can't know what it is, then they can't do the sin. Right? Knowledge of the sin is essential for doing the sin.

Which is why when non-Christians who reject the idea of Christ in the first place can't know certain things. So, we can't hold them to these standards. Right?

In Romans 14:14, we have I know and I am persuaded in the Lord that Jesus is that in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in and of itself, but is unclean for anyone who thinks it is unclean. In Romans 14, Paul goes through this long lit of outlining things that might be sin for you but are not sins for others or vice versa. Right?

This is well established. But Andrew wants to pretend like this is incoherent that this isn't Christian because it makes him win I guess. And that's fundamentally like what this discussion came down to is Andrew wanted to win, which is why he was being bad faith incessantly and didn't want to actually have a meaningful discussion about things that I think we both value.

In fact, he went so far as to not just call me [ __ ] but to insist that I am I'm not even saved, right? Which is, by the way, just a really just look up how God feels about people who uh engage who are raqa, right? Who calls me fool.

You shouldn't do it. In fact, he says to the Pharisees that the blood of those who they who they insist are unsaved is on them. That their that their salvation is dismerged by them.

And in fact, Jesus goes so far as to say, "You're a Pharisee and I would crush you under my foot like a snake. " I think at the end of the day, there is a risk that my biblical interpretation is wrong. And that's okay, right?

I'm open to that. I'm doing my best to seek truth. What Andrew is insisting on doing is using Russian Orthodoxy, maybe the most garbage religious system ever, that has been completely usurped by the KGB, by the way.

He's not even honoring Eastern Orthodoxy. He's using it to justify his baby Christianity to in instantiate his bigotry. That's what he's doing with his faith.

And I think it's Orthodox, by the way. You What are you? Well, I'm not going to say, but I'm not Russian Orthodox.

Which part of Orthodox you are a part of? I'm not going to say the reason I can't. If I if I dox that and people find church, they'll actually harass the church.

Sure. Okay. You don't you don't believe me?

I believe you, but I don't think that saying which branch of Orthodox you're a part of um will lead to like all this thing. I imagine that there's more churches around you in this world. You're in Dallas, right?

There's probably more. Why the [ __ ] would you say that? Like why?

Wait, why would you say that? Sorry. Was that not publicly known?

Well, you didn't know if it was. Uh, I assume that it was decently. I've never said it.

I've never specifically said that. No. Gotcha.

Okay. So, I just note to self, don't tell Kyla anything personal. Not a good idea.

So, he's going to stand on this that I don't know if he even cares that much about to just like point to me and say, "See, bad, stupid woman. That's not good conversation. " Um, if it is the case, that was an actual bad thing to do either.

If it Well, I had no idea that that wasn't you should you know, I'd like just never say anything about where you live, family members names. I don't talk about any of that stuff. It's because I have people who literally threaten to kill me every day.

I've had an assassin come out to try to kill my wife and I just really prefer you not do that. That's fair. I apologize for releasing that information.

Genuinely, is there a way that it can be struck from the final VOD? Well, it's done now. You just saw [ __ ] 12,000 people heard it.

That's done. But from the final VOD, at least can it be removed? Why Why would it matter?

Why would Why wouldn't that matter? 12,000 people just heard that [ __ ] That's That's done. That's done.

Okay. Um, I would still prefer that it's removed. Genuinely offer my apology if that wasn't publicly out there.

Look into I think there's editing tools. Yeah. Cool.

I really appreciate that. I always just said Texas. That's it.

I didn't know that. Genuinely, it seemed like you're decently open about it in the way that I'm open about being in Tampa and moving to Dallas. Mhm.

You just always had should have a rule of thumb just to not say stuff like that when you're ever on stream about it. Just never. Sure.

And I apologize. Uh, none of this, however, takes away from the fact that you've engaged in bad faith, that you use uh other people's sin as attacks while you dismiss planks. Um, and now he's just walking away to proclutch.

So, it didn't matter that you were insulting Rachel Wilson, but apparently this is the big deal. Okay. No, you're not.

Is is yay having a smoke that in the middle of my outro? The guy The guy has a you know he smokes cigarettes. Yeah.

Would you allow me to just walk out in the middle of somebody's outro? Well, I can't. What am I going to like physically force somebody?

Well, you'd probably be like, "Hey, don't do that. " Uh, no. I mean, I we've had Andrew on for debates and women will have walked off.

Is that of course you won't force me, but you don't like that, right? Uh, yeah. I mean, of but I'd prefer Andrew to stay, but I also acknowledge that the the guy smokes cigarettes and he wanted to he wanted to have a smoke.

So, uh, but yeah, we've there women will walk off and, uh, in fact, when Andrew Wilson was debating, uh, Crash Out Kylie, as she's called, rage quit Kylie, crash out Kylie. She got up multiple times and of course it's our preference for her to stay there. But that's all I I'd be like, "Okay, you she she'd be a little frustrated or flustered and I'd be like, "Okay, you need a few minutes to cool off.

" So yeah, I'm not going to lose my mind if a if a woman Hey, you're trying to make it like a sexist thing here. Like a I don't think it's a sexist. Gendered favoritism.

Did I say sexist? I you didn't say sex but you I think Andrew is your friend and so you give him extra stretches because you understand that he's been good to you and you want to be loyal to him but he wouldn't give to me I agree but you did allow him to walk out in the middle of my outro and interrupt my outro significantly more than I've interrupted his well there were some interruptions both ways but also in terms of look Andrew yeah okay you're doing your closing but Andrew is pointing out hey don't don't say that that's super fair and I'm genuinely we should not even draw more attention to to that whole thing. I think we can Oh, it's done now.

Yeah. Um it's like nothing you can do about it now. Did you have did you have more?

I don't know. It seems like he doesn't want to engage with me. Bad face.

Well, you walked away in the middle of me talking, which is totally fine if you were upset. And like genuinely, I'm not upset. Of course you are.

You're upset. I'm listening to what you're saying. Cut the man some slack.

He has an addiction. Oh, don't say that. That would be a sin.

What? An addiction. Look.

Hey, you know, go ahead. Finish your finish your closing. Enough.

The man needs his smokes. Okay. I get up and smoke every debate multiple times.

That's totally fine. This is not new. Give him I didn't say that that's new.

Cut him some slack. I've cut him slack the whole time. The issue is that he's called me [ __ ] right?

He's called me multiple things. So, if you want to have call him a bit overweight and has at the end of solidarity, out of solidarity as an overweight man, I took great offense. Sure.

But it's not a sin to you cuz you're not a Christian. You body shamed Andrew Wilson. Name I think you owe the man an apology to be honest.

If he thinks that glutton is a sin, then he probably shouldn't do that thing. Look, couldn't you? Yeah, I got a few pounds, but I don't think I'm a [ __ ] glutton.

I mean, my hair's a different like I've seen fat people and I'm not one of them. I mean, you're I think you're I think you're obese. He's got a dad bod.

Okay, that's fine. What's my fine children? The man has multiple children.

If he's going to obsess, if he's going to obsess about other people's sins, he should probably take the planks out of his own eye first. But it's not sinning, my understanding, it's not sinning to smoke. It's not a sin to be addicted.

Is it sinning to prove it? It's not a sin to be addicted. Yeah.

Addiction itself, is it a sin? Okay. Really?

Is addiction itself a sin? Yeah, I would say so. Okay.

So, what if you're addicted to going to church? Is that sinful? How are you addicted to going to church?

Because anything can be an addiction. Playing your guitar too much can be an addiction. Yes, it can.

No, I'm sorry. If you if you go to church every single day and you're like, "Man, I just fiend for it. I just want to go all part of addiction is like a functional like uh disability that happens, right?

Like doing something a lot isn't inherently an addiction. Addiction has like specific inherently. It didn't say I just said could going to church be an addiction?

Probably not. No. No.

Okay. So, could playing the guitar become an addiction? Uh again, probably not.

So, what things can't fit the category of what is an addiction? It needs it requires mood modification. It has to have withdrawal symptoms associated with it.

It needs to cause like significant impairment or dysfunction within your life. Um those are church fall under all those things. How is church causing impairment in your life?

Because without it you've you experience withdrawals and that impairs the way that you withdrawals is not the impairment that we're talking about. We're meaning that like when you use heroin, you do drugs, you start you might do crimes or you might end up Are you addicted to coffee? I don't drink coffee.

If you did, would that be a sin? Potentially. Yeah.

Potentially. Or it is. Yeah, I would say it is cuz it's a substance.

So drink So people who drink coffee every single morning and then they have caffeine withdrawals. Well, do they know that it's uh that they're addicted and that it's wrong? They know that they're addicted to coffee.

Yes. And do they think it's wrong? No.

Oh then no. It's fine. Oh yeah.

Welcome to Romans 14. Okay. So Christians Yeah.

Christians. Yeah. Romans 14.

Yep. So as long as Christians don't believe it's wrong, it's fine to some to some extent. Yeah.

Okay. Well, then I don't think smoking is wrong, so it's fine. Or drinking or gluttony.

None of it's wrong, so it's fine. Well, that's not the same thing. Thinking that it's not wrong isn't the same thing as not knowing it's wrong.

Well, what if they just disagree with you? That that wouldn't matter as whether it's Okay. So, then I'm asking you, if a Christian is addicted to coffee Mhm.

is that wrong. It depends on if they know that it's wrong to be addicted to coffee. Oh.

And how would they know? Like if you told them now they know, I would think that they would engage in exoggetical isogesis and divine revelation to figure out like what their sins are. I think that like parishioners and whatnot.

Yes. This is typically how we go about figuring out sin. Okay.

Do you deny like prayer as a way of uh self uh self-correction of sin? Uh no. Oh, okay.

Great. What What would that have to do with anything? Well, typically when you're trying to figure out whether or not your behavior is sin, specifically in sin, that's not clear.

The caffeine didn't exist at the Bible days, right? So, trying to figure out when you're doing sin, usually have to do it prayerfully. This is why, for example, things that could be sin for me might not be sin for you.

Okay. Okay. So, I just want to make sure I got this right.

It's not sinful for a person to be addicted to cigarettes. Um, if they do not know that it is sinful. Okay.

Well, then I guess it's not sinful. Of course you do. You know that it's sinful.

Okay. Demonstrate that. I I would say all the evidence of like it seems like you're pretty theologically based.

It seems like you have a pretty good understanding of the Bible and I think you went through the catechisms of your of your faith. And according to all of the I know priests who smoke. That doesn't make it not a sin.

Yeah. They don't think it's sinful. The Orthodox Church does not think smoking is sinful.

I didn't say smoking. I said addiction. Even addiction in and of itself may not be necessarily sinful.

What are instances where addiction isn't a sin? Because you can have things which you would consider fall under the category of addiction that may not be anything which is non-preferable. Like for instance, like I would say guitar.

You could become so infatuated or have an addiction to the guitar. Perhaps this is part of your profession or something like this. But you actually experience withdrawals if you're not playing or something like that.

How is it causing dysfunction in your life? Because if you're not playing or you're not pursuing that, it causes you distress. It causes you distress.

That's not the same thing as um Well, then what is dysfunction is usually within social uh economic or interpersonal. That's usually what we're looking for. So what is the dysfunction from heroin?

Uh it typically has massive impacts on your relationship, your job, and your uh health. So, if you were addicted to the guitar and it was having some kind of like uh negative effect where your wife is like, "Hey, I really would prefer that you didn't play guitar so much. I would really prefer that.

That's creating dysfunction now, right? " Uh not uh it depends on if like you guys negotiate and talk about it and you're just absolutely unwilling. But you being absolutely unwilling to stop playing the guitar isn't evidence of addiction necessarily.

Might be evidence why couldn't it fit all these criteria? You haven't established that it does. I'm asking you why it couldn't.

You have to establish that it does. That's on you. I'm I'm asking you why couldn't because uh the dysfunction of causing interpersonal preference issues isn't the ne necessity of uh dysfunction.

We're looking at like So then you could like responsibly use heroin where it's not causing dysfunction in your life. No, not really. How would you do that?

How? Well, I mean, if you just are living your life normally and then you also do heroin and then live it normally. How do you live it normally when you're doing heroin?

Heroin will knock you out for like hours straight. Okay. Let's say meth, but you just take like a little even more so you take like a little teeny tiny bit and that's it.

Uh how how is that not leading to dysfunction in your life? What? Because it's not causing any sort of distress for the people around you at least under the criteria that you gave.

Well, you typically are going to it's cause sleep dysfunctions at minimum. Doesn't even cause that. Meth is active in your system for about 24 hours.

Little teeny tiny amount. No, the duration it's active is the same. It would just be the dosing.

That doesn't mean it would affect your sleep. It would necessarily when you take a stimulant it does affect your sleep especially long long standing unless it's the case that you're taking the stimulant all the time and so your sleep is always on the same pattern then it's not affecting your sleep at all. It typically is and you require the tolerance buildup specifically for Okay.

So now you have the tolerance buildup. Tolerance buildup is often part of like specifically substance addictions. Okay.

Yeah. So you have all of that. Where's the dysfunction though?

The withdrawals. You don't you're not having any withdrawals because you keep taking it. Well if you stop taking it you would have withdrawals.

And if you stop playing the guitar, you have withdrawals. Okay. So then when it comes to dysfunction, if the guitar, stopping the guitar is affecting your sleep because you just want to play the guitar.

Uh we would probably put that in the bracket of OCD before we would put in the bracket of dysfunction. Why? Because it's not using the same like neurocognitive like uh underpinnings.

The neuro coralates are usually going to be different. You saying you can't be addicted to uh behaviors. You can be addicted to behaviors but not behaviors.

I I would need that. I don't think there's any evidence of guitar addiction. Really?

I don't think so. Pull it up. Can he become addicted to guitar?

Is there guitar addiction? Yes, guitar addiction can absolutely be a real thing, though it's not a formal medical diagnosis like substance addiction. Uh what people usually mean by guitar addiction is a behavioral addiction.

similar in pattern though usually not severity to things like gaming or social media addiction. You can become addicted but not in any medical way that we mean. Gotcha.

You didn't qualify that it needed to be a medical diagnosis. Wait, what are we talking about with addiction if we're not talking about some level of medical diagnosis? Why do you why does that need to be medically diagnosed?

Well, when we say it doesn't have no medical diagnosis for addiction, not I didn't say that it has to be medically diagnosed, but the medical standards of diagnostics is what we're referring to when we're talking about functionality, withdrawal, tolerance. These are like medical diagnos. Somebody can obviously be addicted even if they haven't seen a doctor that can you be addicted to the guitar?

I think very rarely and most of the time anyone so yes, sure I would. Okay, thank you. But the issue is, find me a single example of something actually addicted to guitar teeth to get the answers out of you.

What do you mean? That's been your side as well. No, it's the opposite.

Really? So the Agria's trilmma thing wasn't pulling teeth. Getting you to admit that you were being uh like judgmental about my lack of traditionalism.

Wasn't pulling teeth. No, I don't think it was. You're just a perpetual victim.

Only you were suffering. No one suffers like Andrew suffers. That's true.

At least not on this show. Nobody suffers like I do on this show. That's true.

Well, you make a lot of money from it, so it's pretty good for you. that well not on this show but this show like dominantly led to a large portion of your success. So sort of I would have still had I think the same amount of success without the show honestly.

Without Brian. Yes. Crazy.

You know who told me that? Brian. I'm sure he did cuz he's your friend.

That's nice to say. Well, you know, I'd like to think I, you know, had a bit of a guiding hand. I don't disagree.

That was my position. Your extremely large platform. Andrew is you're so talented.

The cream rises to the top. The cream rises to the top. Very talented guy, Andrew.

And uh Yeah. And you gave him a platform for many months, which helped grow his his platform. I'm not saying it's only Brian.

I'm just kidding. I'm not saying it's only Brian. Of course you're talented, right?

Of course. Of course he's important for your rise up. I thought so.

Okay. And I don't know why you were fighting me because I told you what Brian said, which didn't seem to disagree with me. Andrew has the sauce.

What he said to me. Andrew has the sauce. You think he would have made it completely without you?

Had no contribution to his career. Well, you know, I'd like to think that I I played a helping hand. Me, too.

A helping hand. I agree. You got an opportunity through Brian and you're talented, so you maximize opportunity.

That's great. Go back and clip it. Let me donate $69.

Is she evil? Of course not. Thank you.

Is she wrong? Yes. No.

She's not bad. She's pretty. We get it.

But she needs to learn culture, not data, to understand Andrew properly. Take a shot. Skull.

It's why she never got popular. Meridite never got popular because of this. That was always the reason.

She She like I know you're sitting here, but I'm just She always could she always had the potential to be very popular on Twitch. Like she could have dominated that whole space. It was the fact that she was supremely unlikable.

That's what always did it to her. You know what I think it is, Andrew? It's the whatever to the whatever podcast to the Joe Rogan pipeline.

She just didn't come on. She didn't come on the whatever podcast. That's true.

You did offer me a host position at the same time actually that you offered it to Andrew. I think you offered it to me and I said no cuz I was doing bridges at the time which unfortunately blew up. I mean the reason why my platform isn't as big as I've never prioritized it.

But yes, Andrew invited you to come back on the show. I It's not a flex. You definitely offered me the host.

You did. You were like, "Think about it. " And I was like, "I don't want to fly to Santa Barbara all the time.

Fake news. This is not fake news. Misinformation.

Misinformation. Disinformation. Fake news.

You were like looking at I I won't say names. We were looking at one person. You were talking a little bit to Andrew.

You're talking to me. And then Andrew took it, which was awesome. I'm I'm glad that Andrew took it.

I think it was good for Andrew was there when I No, no, no. Not Andrew was there. We were talking about it.

We went out for like tacos one night and you were we were talking to girls and trying to maybe get them on the show and stuff and you're like you should Yeah. No, no, no. After the show, I think we went to get like a group of us all went to get food and we were just talking after the show.

Post position, but I said take a shot of what's that? Do you have anything we can take a shot? We got more beer.

We have Oh, you know those like that super high alcohol No beer that I have like the one that will kill you. No. What is it like absent?

Hey, Nathan, in that cabinet right there, can you see at the very top? I think I have I just have like wine and champagne. I don't Yeah.

Can you see there? Yeah, I'll just have another beer. Forget it.

Uh, can you tequila? Yes, tequila. Uh, do we actually have tequila?

Oh, rip, Brian. Or Yeah. Big big L's on the alcohol content.

Tequila. Do you want tequila? Yeah.

Andrew? Uh, yeah. Yeah.

Do you want to No, that was really it. That was always that. It was always that.

It was always the supreme unlikability. No, I I don't know why you're like making these weird digs. So, part of the reason why my dig of course it is.

No, it really isn't. How is saying I'm unlikable and that's why I'm not famous is not a dig. No, no, no.

It's why you never did as well in Twitch and YouTube as you could have done. What's the difference between these statements? I'm unlikable, which is why I'm not more popular.

Yeah. Well, for How is that not a dig? That's not a dig.

That's just a statement of fact. There's more TTS. So, if I said a statement of fact cannot be a dig.

If you said if you said, Andrew, the reason nobody bought your book is because you're a bad writer. I don't think that's a dig. Uh, it might be depending on like the Yeah, I'm not I'm not even trying to make a dig.

I'm just saying that that's the reason the super chat is one's like that was she always had the potential to be. I took two years off of content creation. That's that's a really big contributor.

In fact, when I started picking it back up in September, I've like grown pretty. You had every advantage. You were there with Destiny.

You had a complete access to DGG. At first, they loved you. At first, everything was going really good with that.

What ended up happening ultimately was the unlikability. You had Bridges. Bridges was tuned into by tons of DGG.

They ultimately just ended up not liking you. That was the problem. It was that particular audience just did not like you.

That was not the problem. It was the problem. Okay.

If you want to make There's nothing I could say to this. Look, I've been in the space for years. is not true of my you can tell you can ask me the lore on basically any content creator from Twitch poll to YouTube and I could [ __ ] tell you the entire uh transition that they made the the entire lore behind them because I study my opposition like no other.

Did you know that I took basically two years off of content creation? Well, it wasn't two years. It was about two years.

Yeah. No, it wasn't. You still did content creation even in that 2-year span.

I didn't grow any of my own personal platform or promote it. But you still did content creation within that span. Uh almost none.

But you still did some. So sorry if you want to grow. So here's a pro tip.

If you want to go in content creation, consistency is a really big part of it, right? Being inconsistent, by the way. Well, here's one of the issues.

Oh my god. Who the hell cares because you're more famous? No, no, no.

I'm just saying that I I sherked all conventional wisdom. It's not about consistency. It never has been.

It's never been about consistent. That's an old trope for content creators, but the ones who follow the consistency model are always the smallest ones. Yeah, Asmin Gold is popular not because he's consistent, but because it's not because he's consistent.

It's It's for sure a consistency is a large part of it. It's not the only part of it. It's not even a particularly large part.

The largest part of content in trying to pillaring me like this. I'm not even pillaring you. I'm pointing it out.

You're trying to say you're less famous because you're online. It's not It's not about less famous. I didn't host it.

I [ __ ] about less famous. that what brought this on is that you feel Lord this was I brought this up before he said anything about that Andrew you do have a bigger platform than me it's not a matter of it's four think it's a dialectic of like there's there's content creators who are much larger than me that's all relative I've never been a [ __ ] egoist about that and the thing that's funny is like um never why did you bring up my size never well no I'm saying that the reason that this happened in content creation was because of the ability issue. It always doesn't matter necessarily.

Well, because that was what the question was. No, it wasn't. Yeah.

They were talk I've said the reason for this has always been the case with with Kylo. She was speaking to the unlikability and it was like it was always the case. It was the reason she never got big on any of those platforms.

Your audience doesn't like me, but that doesn't change the fact that there are significant other audiences that do like me. There are no significant audiences that like you. None.

Name one. My own. You don't have You don't have No, they don't.

And you don't have a significant audience and DGG does not like you. I don't think I have a significant audience. Then why would you say that?

Because I you said who likes you and I said my own audience. No, you said significant. You said the word significant.

Yeah, the Jubilee audience seemed to really really like me. They like anybody who was going against conservatives, but none of them came. There was multiple people on my Jubilee platform that were against conservatives and yet I was the one that got all the promotion.

I gained like almost 10k subs from it. It didn't do anything for you. your live streams are about the same size and they're about the same size because it's a like issue.

their CCV. My CCV is actually bigger despite the fact that by what 30 live viewers. Well, yeah, for like a small channel that's pretty significant.

30 live viewers. It's like it's always been a likability problem. I I just disagree and I'm not asking.

I know, but you should you would though, right? The an unlikable person would disagree with a person who tells them the reason you're not getting anywhere in this is because you're unlikable. You would disagree with that.

That's the point. That's like the most unlikable part. Disagreeing.

No, it's just that it's the argumentative nature of every single individual thing. Aren't you argumentative? Oh, I conceded most points actually.

Which points did you concede to? Oh, I conceded tons of points. Which which ones?

I also conceded multiple points. No, not really. Sure.

Okay. All right. You're super likable, by the way.

That's true. That's one of the things the the kind of the the feedback that I get the most is just that you're you're a very likable guy. Yeah.

That's why there are so many conservatives that like are not allowing you into certain spaces that don't want to work with you. I'm definitely not saying names. Yeah, because there aren't any.

There absolutely are. I just want to be very clear. There absolutely are.

But I'm not going to I guarantee you that all those conservatives are probably not as popular as me. He's just jealous. They're just jealous.

Probably. I guarantee you that almost all of them are not as popular as I am. But he doesn't care about how popular it is, guys.

Don't worry. Well, that's it's just funny to note that it's like conservatives who won't let me in their space, but I'm not going to name them, right? So, it's like, well, I can name all the conservatives who do let me in their space.

And it's all the really popular ones, interestingly enough. Just saying. None of the unpopular ones.

Yep. Yeah. I don't I don't even know who these people are cuz you ain't going to name them.

You do know who they are. I'm just not going to like obviously But you're not going to tell me who they are. Yeah.

Here. Of course not. Yeah.

Of course not. Yeah. Likability issue.

Yeah. Cuz being argumentative is the liability issue. That's not the just the being argumentative.

It's the mostly it's in your streams. The entire stream is just condescension. That's the tone that people hear is just pure condescension.

The entire thing that's true. I mean, most people So, for example, condescension would be me profaining kindness and niceness while like discerning down like in a patronizing way. But that's not typically what I do.

In fact, when I mean, I belittle people. And I say that pretty openly. Yeah.

But I've just said the whole tone of your stream sounds like condescension to people. That might be your issue is more to you. If if you changed that, if you changed the condescension and you changed the likability problem, you would be a [ __ ] mega star on those platforms.

So, in the case of like Jubilee, for example, um I spoke mostly the same way that I spoke speak most of the time. People didn't find me condescending. They find me really likable.

In fact, one of the things they specifically like 20 live viewers, 20 more live viewers. Yeah, live live streams typically are going to grow uh slower. Um and I I think I gained uh 6 to 7K subs uh from that single Jubilee performance, which is awesome.

Okay, you know what? I think your issue is Kyla, you you're there's no color in your hair. If it was pink, there actually is.

If it pink or purple or blue or green, I think that would go a long way to bolster you. If you want to hire me as a consultant, I have very affordable uh rates, you know, image consultant. Why isn't Andrew more popular?

What's his issue? You know what? Um he doesn't come on the whatever podcast enough.

He needs to come on more just like true to grow his platform from there. He needs Andrew needs to come on the whatever podcast more. And you know what I think his big thing is as a di I'm going to diagnose you Andrew.

Okay. He doesn't smoke cigars on stream. The guy only smokes cigarettes.

I think that's if he started just like Tony Soprano big phallic shaped thing. Whoa, hold on. Let's not let's not project like that.

That's crazy, Kyla, that you would say that. I just think it's that maybe if he smokes cigars, he would get, you know, I think that would be big. Improve the aesthetic.

I think it'd be big. And um I would like to see him sing more on his streams, though. I think singing would do well.

And I think um I agree. The women the women love the singing. Andrew actually like I I know we're kind of like having a bit of a joke here.

If Andrew did IRL like table stuff in public, either Men on the Street or Change My Mind, Andrew would be the biggest [ __ ] streamer. Uh, bigger than all the even like the the young guns that do the [ __ ] I don't know who's probably not, right? Like a lot of people issue with Andrew.

I don't know. You guys have always you guys have always doubted me and I'm one of the largest conservative streamers in the world. When would I ever doubt sleep on hand?

though he doesn't care about it though. When did I ever doubt you? No, I'm telling you.

Oh my god. We can go back to the old streams. This is why nobody likes Andrew.

Nobody will debate with Andrew. Everyone hates Andrew. Andrew is bad.

They had tons of streams like that. Destiny had cope streams about that. And the thing is all you [ __ ] I beat you.

I remember you having roast streams where you would spend 3 to four hours insulting me, calling me a [ __ ] insulting me. I never called you a [ __ ] You absolutely did. I've never used the word [ __ ] That's incorrect.

I don't even Nope. I don't I don't even The only time I call women [ __ ] is if they're actual prostitutes. I've always made that clue.

Now, [ __ ] I don't usually use that language either. I get conflated a lot with red pillars who say that [ __ ] I don't. I will say stupid [ __ ] but I don't call women [ __ ] unless they're actual [ __ ] Yeah.

So, one of the issues is like you're saying like, "Oh, we were just sitting about talking about how negative Andrew is. " Yeah. Lots of people didn't like you in the Twitch poll space obviously cuz you're kind of leftist.

Yeah. And you're kind of because they were all leftists. That's why.

Well, there I like plenty of conservatives. I wanted all of the the like the leftist hating me is good. That is my favorite part of the job.

What about the conservatives disliking you? I I Who? The ones who shall not be named.

Yes. I'm not going to like drop people that dislike you for Exactly. Because for all I know, they don't even exist.

How the [ __ ] do I know? Um, they do exist. I'm not going to drop them for your audience to go and harass them in the way that your audience harasses most of the people that you talk about.

example, when you made multiple 3 to 4 hour roast sessions on me. I don't remember at any point spending 3 to four dedicated hours just talking [ __ ] about you, your life, your choices. I don't remember doing any of this.

This was your style of content. Uhhuh. Yeah.

And that so I I don't know why you would begin to even point at me and say you really dislike me. It's like uh I didn't like that you talked nasty about You were This was long before I ever did a trash talk extravaganza that you were talking. Basically, we had one interaction where you said, "I'm going to interview you.

" And then it was a really obnoxious debate and then after that, you just trash talk me basically all the time. Yes. That wasn't how that went.

Absolutely. Why did you delete all those row sessions? Put them back up.

I didn't. They're all behind a payw wall right this second you go watch them. Gotcha.

Okay. And what you'll notice behind my payw wall is there isn't a single time where I spend 3 to four hours talking [ __ ] about not just not talking [ __ ] about you. Behind the payw wall, but not talking [ __ ] about anyone.

I don't spend like 3 to four hours. Yes. Did I do I like you that much?

No, I don't like you. Right. The idea.

But that's not the same thing as like holding me to some standard that I negative and that I didn't think you were going to go for likability.