Israel and Hamas agree to Ceasefire?

He far announced 2025 off to a banger start just like you predicted there's idiots who think Trump won't give Israel what they want later listen for the time being Trump is my man okay I don't care it's a brief moment of Solace do you understand for the time being if the bomb stop then they stop so far the man is not even in office yet and he's having a banner year okay why are we giving Trump credit for this deal what Why are we giving Trump credit for this deal who do you think facilitated the

deal you think it was Biden I can't believe we already have we already have liberals in the chat running defense for Joseph Robin and Brandon here wow that's awesome I don't personally believe Donald Trump is a peaceful dove make no mistake and I don't personally think Donald Trump is going to be good for the Palestinian population make no mistake I don't think he's going to end the Israeli apart If he if you think he's going to do that you are also delusional but on this day on this glorious day it's hard not to say look

the big dog he did it the big dog did it okay D my guy would have given Reagan credit for releasing the Iranian hostages I think the thing that you don't understand in that process is that even if there was incompetence you're talking about a foreign adversary not stopping a foreign Ally okay Joe Biden had the opportunity To do this with one phone call I talked about this virtually every single day for 15 months that Joe Biden can stop this today he can stop it tomorrow he can stop it yesterday he chose not to do

so do you understand he chose not to do so Israel was the party that was responsible for refusing to recognize the conditions set forth by Hamas early on the conditions that Israel had placed on the ceasefire negotiations on July 2nd and the deal that is in place right Now is virtually identical to those deals there have been more than 30 different instances where Hamas tried to facilitate a ceasefire Israel refused it every step of the way Joe Biden made it seem as though Israel was not the actual responsible party for refusing to deal with the

ceasefire and it was actually Hamas that was ruining it and that's what's crazy about the situation because Joe Biden had virtually every moment every opportunity all the power all the Cards to stop this by forcing Israel to meet his demands and for a lot of liberals I think this is impossible to contend with okay giving Donald Trump the opportunity to take credit for the ceasefire is entirely in the hands of Joe Biden it is entirely in the hands of Joe Biden if you think that additional pressure from Trump and the whole like cut it out

narrative that Trump applied in this situation or maybe even a secret side deal that he cut with Benjamin Netanyahu which will inevitably lead to possibly infinitely more Bloodshed down the line which I do believe he did okay but if you think that Donald Trump was not the Mover and Shaker in the circumstance and it was Biden and he just like simply couldn't facilitate this for 15 whole months and was able to do so in the last second you're out of your mind here it is a diplomat briefed on the ceasefire negotiations between Israel andas credited

progress in the Talks in part to the influence of President Donald Trump saying it was the first time there has been real pressure on the Israeli side to accept a deal who was ruining the deal who was refusing to abide by the deal was it Hamas was there more pressure necessary on Hamas was that the case Chatters did you learn nothing from my coverage for the past 15 months on this you hear anything you just went la la la la la can't hear you no Biden kept lying over and over again Anthony blinkin kept lying

over and over again throughout the entire process there are numerous instances where I continuously showed you over and over again that Anthony blinkin would go on tour and openly state that it was actually Hamas that was a spoiler of the deal it was actually not Israel that was a spoiler of the deal it was Hamas when we could see with our own two eyes who was actually spoiling the deal and In This Moment the only thing standing Between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire is Hamas they have to decide and they have to decide

quickly uh so we're we're looking to that um and I'm hopeful that they will make the right decision and we can have a fundamental change in the in the dynamic so one must ask the question why was Anthony blinkin and Joe Biden actively defending the Israeli side of the conversation and why is everyone saying Trump pressured Netanyahu come on Man y'all are out of your goddamn Minds if you think that the Biden Administration finally packed this up two weeks ago Biden gave $8 billion of arms to Israel two weeks ago January 3rd working tirelessly around

the clock for a ceasefire I guess you genuinely believe that when they were saying it the grossest side of this process is that Biden had all of the Power he is the president of the United States of America he could have done this he could Have done this day one he could have done this early October 2023 he could have done it in November Anthony blinkin and Joe Biden actively sabotaged the peace talks the ceasefire talks and defended the Israeli Side by lying to the public here it is blinkin apparently tanks these far negotiations by

fabricating a story to make Netanyahu look good one of the many lies the Biden Harris adman told to Shield Israel from criticism this is from a Times of Israel Reporting from a couple months back he pointed to a meeting blink and held with Netanyahu in August after which the secretary announced that the Israeli Premier had accepted a US bridging proposal for a hostage deal the Arab official along with a member of Israel's negotiations team told the Times of Israel that this was empathetically not what had unfolded in the meeting and that blinken's comments had thrown

a major wrench in that round of talks Which ultimately fell apart how many times do I have to show you the receipts I mean I was there I was covering it in real time oh yeah this was a funny tweet from Ryan if Democrats knew that losing the election might lead to a ceasefire in Gaza they might have they'd have fought harder to win credit where credit is due okay te Lon Don he did it the Mad lad he did it with a goddamn real estate developer he golfs with too that is how much power

America has over Israel and Not vice versa okay it's all a matter of who holds the cards it's all a matter of actually pulling the levers of power if necessary whether it is because you have a grander ambition for the region a larger design for the region down the line because you got a $100 million from Miriam Adon to permanently Annex the West Bank or whether it's because you want to look good for your inauguration or whether because you're a major Nixon head or a Reagan head and you really Wanted to do exactly what they

did back in the day because you have this uh tendency to reinstate old historical wounds of the democratic party in the way that famous Republicans have in the past I don't know doesn't matter what matters is Biden had all of the power to facilitate a ceasefire for 15 months and he saw all of the baby murder he saw all of the children being murdered he saw the entirety of the Gaza Strip eviscerated gutted with American weapons And he said 8 more billion dollar please to the B murder machine on this day we celebrate you know

we celebrate uh what is to come even if I am skeptical of the future okay even if I worry about the future but on this day I will say may Allah awaken the people and help them to see the evil doings of Israel and the United States he woke up one day and said you know Allah is Awakening the people you look like the median voter right now I Am I'm the median voter currently In This Moment In This Moment I've been the closest to a median voter as I ever have been okay really in

your face with a ceasefire to take effect on January 19th Biden's last full day in office his administration will have maintained its commitment to Israel's genocidal war on Palestine until the very end how about when Trump sanctions the ICC into the ground to protect nahu you're still going to sing his Praises if you think That I think Trump is in any way shape or form Pro Palestine you are out of your mind okay I like that everyone's position immediately in this in this instance is to act like the Democrats haven't been doing that already under

Democratic Leadership what are you talking about the Democrats have alongside the Republican Party already started the process so what are you talking about you know what they didn't do though facilitate a ceasefire so shut Up what is this argument there is no defense for the Democratic Party On this day there is no defense it's just untrue you can be critical of Donald Trump you can on Donald Trump and I certainly will for the rest of this day but in this very moment if you are reaching so far and wide that you make it seem as

though Joe Biden had anything to do with this aside from routinely allowing Israel to just do whatever it wanted over and over and over and over again you're out of Your mind yeah remember the ceasefire button was a youthful Tik Tock fantasy here's Matthew aaes I'm out of touch with the youth but my sense is that there are now millions of pseudo informed people gassed up on Tik toks and Instagram reals who believe there's some kind of permanent ceasefire button in the Oval Office that Biden is perversely refusing the Press so what happened what happened

did Trump find the button was it next to the diet coke Button what what happened how do we hit the button it seems like there was a button everyone kept saying Hassan you are so childish you are so childish for making it seem as though this is just a simple phone call away a ceasefire is a simple phone call to Israel okay not the Hamas no applying pressure to Hamas like Israel is genociding the Gaza Strip what more pressure can you do than genociding an entire area where 2 million people once lived that's it you've

maxed out on The pressure Ridiculous by the way make no mistake if Trump is also able to overturn to Tik Tock band too oh my god dude Trump is going to give the Republican Party the Reagan Advantage for generations to come okay and there is no liberal counter there is no institutional counter to any of this stuff he's just taking advantage of the ginormous failures the the patently and and roundly panned awful decision-making of the democratic party to make himself Look good the button was BB's candidate of choice for winning you're out of your mind

dude Benjamin Netanyahu has no say in this process okay all they can do is try and undermine American interest in the region but at the end of the day if America's like oh yeah you're going to continue killing people even though I want you to do the ceasefire okay how about no more weapons what's going to happen when they don't get Tamir interceptors dude what do you think Would happen if American Cruisers and aircraft carriers in the region go okay we're turning around then what do you think happens to Israel then what do you think

happens to Israel without the 2,000lb bombs that we were consistently sending to Israel as they kept literally running out of ammunition because they dropped multiple nukes worth of Munitions on Gaza what do you think would happened to Israel if America was like all right we're not protecting you Anymore then are you out of your mind what is the Iron Dome without Tamir interceptors it's nothing there is no world where Israel gets to do what it's doing without every step of the way America saying yeah we love this keep going we love it a lot actually

okay we love it so much yeah the Iron Dome without interceptors is an umbrella it's not even an umbrella it doesn't stop anything the reality is the reason why nothing has happened for the w a whole Time Biden was in power is because he's completely disabled my friend is the intern in DC and young people are talk no I mean Biden's ineptitude aside like they wanted this the Democrats as a Administration wanted this to continue the narrative for Hogs is now Trump is just better at applying pressure I mean is it wrong is that wrong

is that the wrong narrative no the real narrative is there's a button that must have been pressed somewhere along the line and Trump was like yeah it's done okay I'll give you whatever you want later down the line but just cut this out right now that's what I think okay in this brief moment there is a moment of Solace here and there will most likely be a tremendous amount of pain that comes later down the line okay but ultimately is it is it false that Donald Trump even when he wasn't president was able to literally

facilitate by applying pressure to Israel is it wrong you got So much information coming out of the Biden white house where they actively told Israel yeah go go blow up in Lebanon it's great we love it you know keep going and even if you don't have Insider information you have Outsider eyes to look at the situation every day there's another report of Biden being like Oh I'm so angry with Benjamin Netanyahu here's another 8 billion doll of weapons sir that's crazy great though it seems like the Same media apparatus that actively defended Israel's uh genocidal

Ambitions is now trying to reframe the narrative in an effort to give Biden credit 5 days before he leaves office when he very clearly openly kept lying at the behest of Israel over and over and over again and it's great it's great you want to know why because people already don't trust mainstream media now they're going to go what the are you talking about we have eyes we have ears we have a brain I Can see what Biden did for the past 15 months do you think Trump gets credit I mean Trump is going to

get credit regardless he's going to get credit from obviously every single outlet on the right that's number one this is a creditworthy moment okay and last but not least for many people that have noticed what is going on many people that are aware of what's Happening people are going to despise Biden for coming out and saying like no we did This we finally did this Jack okay ridiculous ridiculous narrative shocking now it's not fully done anyway Nyo says the Hamas folded on the dispute over the Philadelphia Corridor but as of several items in the framework

have yet to be finalized we hope the details will be finalized tonight liberals in the chat trying to say this guy was actually the principal negotiator more than 15 months of conflict began with hezbollah's brutal Massacre on October the 7th I'm Just going to run that again than 15 months of conflict began with hezbollah's brutal Massacre on October the 7th Hezbollah on October 7th did a brutal Massacre you think that guy did the ceasefire that guy he just remembered he had the power 5 days before he's out what kind of ridiculous false reality are we

living in where people even entertain the notion that this is competent leadership in display of course Liberals are going to lose Permanently and forever you are making the most reactionary stupid mouth breathing losers look sane when you try to literally justify anything that you're seeing here anything like it's it's psychotic it's qanon this is qanon okay there is no difference functionally between trying to say Biden is a competent leader and he really tried really really hard to facilitate a ceasefire even though all evidence points of the direct contrary okay and He finally did it five

days before his administration ended the foreign policy genius like running with that narrative is unironically no different than qanon being a qinon supporter he also said he spoke to the Emir of Kuwait to thank him for the ceasefire deal when he was oh God it was the Emir of cutter oh my God he doesn't have a PhD in foreign policy chat he's just that good Miller says the ceasefire was conceived by this of by this Administration admin officials Traveled the world to Garner support for Miller says this proposal dates to late May and Biden went

around the world getting support for it which left Hamas isolated and alone in fact Hamas accepted the terms in May and again in July they're still lying about it that's what's crazy like this is hamas's proposal from May and they're still actively lying to defend Israel after Benjamin nyaho Joe Biden okay think about that even if you don't think Trump Applied pressure Benjamin nahu actively over Joe Biden okay actively he was like yeah I'm not going to play ball I'm not going to play ball I'm not going to play ball at all okay and they're

still defending Israel to the last second of power that is crazy State Department briefing the first since mid December just started Matt Miller is excitedly talking about normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia since there's now a ceasefire so it wasn't Biden then but Mainly nahu oh my God oh my God oh my God oh my God of course it was Biden Biden holds all the cards Biden controls the levers of power we are the American government okay what are you saying Biden's incompetence in this process doesn't change the dynamic doesn't change the power that he has

doesn't change that like the people in his inner circle actively wanted this to happen okay actively wanted this genocide to continue that's it that's it Biden loves Genocide make no mistake he loved it okay he loved every moment of it and luckily for him it is going to continue until the last day that he's in office the Democrats alongside Biden also loved it okay they did seemingly seemingly they did they didn't do enough about it they didn't do anything about it they applied zero pressure there were a couple Democrats who did and that's it and

they were cast aside ridiculous ridiculous if you expect me to just sit Here and lie to you and act like Biden actually did this last ditch effort to finally press the Netanyahu government that's ridiculous it's not going to you want me to lie to you you know what I mean you want me to actively lie to you to feel better okay I get it I hate Donald Trump so I understand why in this very moment you're like well still maybe it wasn't why are you giving credit to Trump it's like giving credit to Reagan it's

like what are you doing why are you Giving credit to Trump he he caught a side deal with Benjamin Nyo okay whose fault is it that the genocide continued in that process who's doubly at fault here for allowing this to be an election defeating issue it's Biden it's Biden and the rest of the democratic party and those in positions of power who had every opportunity to stop what was going on even when it was electorally beneficial even when it was the moral thing to do even when it was the right Thing to do and they

chose not to do it make no mistake there's no way out of the situation logically like think about it logically what think about what you're saying okay think about what you're defending in this process I tweeted this a couple days ago I said I guess Trump is an infinitely better Statesman than the foreign policy genius Biden or maybe Biden wanted to continue killing Palestinian children so bad he was willing to throw the election away And now for $100 million Trump will likely allow the permanent annexation of West Bank is it that Trump is a better

dealmaker or what was it that Biden just couldn't do this for 15 months and simp got himself ready to to muster up the courage to finally do what's right is that what you think bro just ignores that Republicans unanimously support Israel for the last 4 years Assan definitely a CIA operative it gets more clear every day yeah totally yeah I am a I am a CIA operative that's right I'm a part of the deep State um working to defend Donald Trump actually why am I a ciia operative because I'm criticizing the guy who defended Israel

for the past 15 months as Israel continue to do a genocide if you are oblivious to the reality of what unfolded for the past 50 months and if you still choose at this very moment to give some semblance of support to a dying man who is a genocidal monster Joe Biden as though he Had any say in this process whatsoever you will forever be blinded to the truth you will always find yourself going I wonder how I got things so wrong and it's not like this was unexpected this is something that I told you was

going to happen over and over again Trump's greater Ambitions for allowing Israel to absolutely destroy the West Bank and permanently Annex it will most likely unfold later down the line but they need a moment of respit Israel to rearm Resupply try to rebuild the pr disaster of 15 months of genocide Trump will offer them all of the assurances all of the security endless contracts and that is something that I'm very fearful of they've attacked Janine already today they haven't stopped attacking Janine they haven't stopped attacking the West bank and they're most likely going to do

a much larger push down the line when they have the actual capacity to do so they got their pushed in in Lebanon okay The Israeli economy is on fire they have to rebuild a little bit before they can make an active effort to permanently Annex the West Bank Trump is going to give them the bandwidth nyaho had absolutely no respect for Biden it doesn't matter if nyaho has no respect for Biden I agree with you he didn't okay he treated him like a like a fool like a daughtering old fool over and over and over

again but guess what Biden had the power every single day of the Week Biden had the power on October 8 to stop Israel you understand that none of the death and destruction would have taken place if Biden made a phone call and said cut it out he stopped it in 2021 with One Singular phone call as many presidents in the past have done so this is the thing that is very frustrating to me okay Israel is a violent apartheid regime that is a set Colonial Enterprise benefits America's interest in the region that much is true

Which is why Israel gets a lot of bandwidth in doing whatever it wants and even sometimes actually undermining the American intelligence Community spying on Americans spying on American diplomats things of that nature that's because there is a larger agenda there okay but a lot of people I think fall into this silly way of thinking where they think like oh well the Israel owns America like no Israel doesn't own America America owns Israel Israel is Our weapon Israel is our Shield Israel is our settler Colony we took it over from the British and it's been ours

in perpetuity okay the British started the process and we took it over and it's been ours it's the 51st state for a reason so the idea that like uh Biden was uh being made fun of and being bullied by Netanyahu and thinking that that has any sort of play here aside from reasserting the idiotic uh nature of Joseph Robin at Brandon it's so silly It's so stupid it's it's false it's false thinking it's just in statement from the mediators oh from two minutes ago okay I'm going to have Jeremy scale on in a second to

talk about this stuff hold on all right I'm going to call Jeremy Now ladies and gentlemen investigative reporter Jeremy scale of drop site news formerly the intercept and many other places is here with us right now and uh we're going to be talking about the events that unfolded Earlier today or that finalized earlier today and uh what might happen down the line Jeremy thank thank you so much for your ongoing reporting on everything that has been your reports recently also where you were talking to the firefighters and I mean like it's such a treasure that

we have you man I really I'm try my best in any case there is a a breaking Story coming out of dropsite as a matter of fact from the mediators on the Gaza ceasefire from your institution But uh before we get into that I wanted to I wanted to hear you breakdown everything that has happened in the last uh last week or so if if possible can I show you one thing I'm going to pull this up on my phone I I just want to show you something that relates to uh everything that we're talking

about here which is I obtained today I you know I'm in touch regularly with people that are on the Palestinian negotiating team I want to share this like we we didn't do This as a story so like this is a you know this is an exclusive here I obtained a document that was agreed to by Hamas on Monday it's Wednesday right now we're speaking on Monday I reported and others report reported that Hamas had told the mediators from Qatar and Egypt that they accepted theas fire framework and Tony blinkin and others kept saying the same

lie that they've been repeating for many many months which is oh we're waiting on Hamas so What I received the actual signed and stamped document of the ceasefire agreement that now is public with the signatures of each of hamas's negotiators you see there yeah this was delivered to the mediators on Monday Anthony blinkin and other us officials and Israeli officials continued up until hours ago to say oh we're waiting on Hamas we're waiting on Hamas this is what the Palestinians have been dealing with Under Joe Biden for almost 16 months now where there have been

goodfaith efforts to try to engage in an exchange of captives there are 10,000 plus Palestinians who are being held in Israeli prisons jails dungeons more than 3,000 of them being held in this orwellian administrative detention and the negotiators who are working on behalf of the Palestinians everyone says Hamas but it's not just Hamas there's multiple Palestinian factions that are Involved with this they agreed on Monday and they actually put it in writing stamped it and they all signed it all of their mediators and Anthony blinkin knew this because he was shown that document and yet

the LIE continued to be promoted you know this is conrete evidence and and there's other evidence but this is a piece of concrete evidence in the thing that you and I are going to talk about right now over the past few days what has actually happened is that the Israelis were trying to insert new conditions the Israelis were were refusing to provide actual maps of where they would withdraw their troops to and the reasons the Palestinians wanted those Maps is because when Israel doesn't do what they're supposed to they want to be able to say

this is a violation of the agreement the Israelis want everything to be vague so like I didn't mean to come in hot fire at you here but it's like you know I'm I'm Watching the commentary on this and the notion that it's been you know Hamas that has prevented a ceasefire is a lie you how many Israeli we're going to see hopefully we're going to see a lot of living people come out of Gaza you know there are children uh the beus children you know I hope I hope as swiftly as possible that they are

returned they and their mother and you know are are immediately released how many Israelis have been killed uh you know in Gaza as A result of this kind of lie Factory when deals were on the table you know we don't even know how many Palestinians have been killed the Hamas numbers you know it's more than 46,000 this is a dramatic undercount you were talking as I came on about wanting to go in there one of the reasons the Israelis don't want you know non-palestinian journalists in there is because when they start saying telling those stories

then then people are going to have to Take it seriously you know when it's our Palestinian colleagues who they're hunting and murdering and killing their family members also it's like oh well they're all Hamas so I'm just giving you one example like for for the for the you know the community of people here that you hang out with every day like this is just one small thing from a not powerful journalist that if I can get this document and share it with you guys why aren't other journalists doing their Jobs why aren't they saying no

actually Anthony blinkin is telling lies that are lethal lies yeah like you have direct access to uh some of these people obviously you're not like a little journalist you are a veteran in the field but I'll take it one step further I'm a random dumbass sitting at home in Los Angeles California and if I can see the immediate Med contradictions with what Anthony blinkin has said over and over again as Israel worked to Immediately contradict Anthony blinkin right after he kept saying no Israel actually is holding to this deal but it's actually Hamas that's not

holding to this deal not this last time around mind you uh but new on numerous instances over the course of the past 15 months why can't anyone in mainstream news also recognize that why do they lap up everything that the American State Department puts out as law basically as the utmost truth that you can arrive at It has been endlessly frustrating and I'll take it one step further when you have the Trump Administration coming in and possibly implementing like ruthless autocratic approaches to Media press Freedom possibly uh going after political enemies uh weaponizing the Department

of Justice all of this stuff you need good journalism and you need people to have a sense that mainstream Outlets Legacy publishers are actually committed to the truth to you know do What the fourth estate is supposed to supposedly designed to do and yet in an effort to continue defending America's uh the American state Department's objectives in this region The Grand Design that the American uni party has over the Middle East as they gear up for a much larger conflict with China they have consistently eroded what remains of the little confidence that people could have

had they've completely complely lost an entire generation of people that Saw with their own two eyes exactly what was going on and then would tune into the New York Times or tune in CNN or tune in to MSNBC CBS and the like and see something entirely different and go how can I ever trust these people ever again yeah I mean and and and look look already how what's happening you know the New York Times I think it was yesterday did this story about the Lancet study that showed that there was a dramatic undercounting of you

know of The deaths of Palestinians in Gaza I mean you've been saying this for a long time I've been saying this for a long time but this is indicative of the kind of the attempt that people are going to make to kind of clean up on aisle 12 where like they you know they they they've been facilitating aiding abetting this genocide and and watch it too in blue Maga world where it's going to be like well we you know we always no you weren't you were part of this you Know and I mean we did

this story today also where you know I I I don't have the number in front of me but I was like 29% you know of of people that didn't vote said that the primary reason they didn't vote uh in the election this is Ryan Grim did this story you know is because of Gaza and look at how many people were telling us like oh that's not you know this isn't the thing and it's like you know Harris has more important things on her plate and you know she's working Tirelessly you know come on and and

now we've got this whole this whole business about the Trump thing you know where it's like I'm sorry yes it was because trump it was you the Palestinian negotiators are telling me that also that there were things that the Israelis were just flat out refusing and when Trump's people came to town the the whole tune changed we could talk all about what's going on you know with Trump and speculate about it but just on A real politic level Trump used a power available to and he's not even the real president yet to an incoming president

what does that mean about Biden who was well we can't we're not in control of Israel yeah no actually kind of you are you know like and Trump trump showed it no absolutely in the interest of like ask covering I guess uh one of the things that I wanted to show you here I'm going to share my screen with you as well so you can see what I'm also Looking at this is from uh Zana who uh showed the the new report that came out of New York Times death toll in Gaza likely 40% higher

than reported researchers say and of course 60 Minutes is coverage on the whistleblowers the many different whistleblowers within the state department as well that actively spoke out and the 60 Minutes reporting on it that came months after as you can see here the New York Times saying that more than 64,000 Palestinians may have Been killed by traumatic injury in the first months of the war in Gaza according to new study the peer reviewed statistical analysis led by epidemiologists at the London School of hygiene and tropical medicine used modeling in an effort to provide an objective

third-party estimate of the casualties it does strike me as odd for the New York Times to come out with this reporting so close to this uh to the finalization of the ceasefire agreements And it almost contradicts like the the subtle ways and not so subtle ways in which they have undermined I think uh the the number of casualties from Israel's offensive genocide in Gaza yeah and you know I mean I don't know how much you guys have I wasn't watching I was doing my own talking to people earlier but you know I don't know how

much you guys have gotten into the details of what's in this agreement have you have you covered the bases on that Um I only covered it I only covered it yesterday but from what I understand I I don't know what the new information that came out of it but you're obviously much more familiar with the details so I wanted to ask you about it but um the poison pill Provisions that Benjamin Nan yahu kept uh adding on to the to the deal making process since July like uh uh permanent military positions in the netsim corridor

permanent military occupation controlling the Rafa Border a refusal of Aid trucks from going in like all of these things have uh seemingly been cast aside at least in the even in the first phase of the negotiation where maybe I'm wrong and you can tell me miman nyaho is actually conceited on these demands in terms of like removing military positions even from the uh Philadelphia Corridor which was a major point of contention on on paper if this deal moves past this first phase you know I mean just like back up Just do a little bit of

just basic architecture here so this is a three-phase deal each phase is envisioned as being 6 weeks long you know 42 days and in that first phase of the deal you have 33 Israelis that fall under what they call the humanitarian category that are going to be least um you know it's on the first day it's supposed to be three people people are presuming it's going to be cafir bibus Ariel bibus and their mother these two You know two kids cafir bibus was 9 months old um on October 7th when he was taken to Gaza

so those are supposed to be the first three and then they have a mathematical formula for how many Palestinians then are released and among that group also is five female um Israeli soldiers and then for those you have a different category of Palestinian prisoner but at the same time exactly 50 for each uh of the female IDF soldiers released right for for for each of those Um and then you know then you have 600 a trucks coming in and then there's going to be the Israelis pulling back and eventually you know withdrawing and in the

if if they then make it on the 16th day of the first phase they're supposed to be no later than the 16th day they're supposed to be discussing the the terms for the second phase of the agreement you know technical details um of how many Israelis are going to be released from Gaza how many Palestinians are Going to be released from Palestinian prisons and and other facilities but that second phase also has language in it that that envisions a total withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza in this first phase they're going to be going into

like a buffer zone and there was a lot of disagreement over how many meters into Gaza you know Gaza is a really small territory relatively speaking and so what the Israelis basically have carved out is is kind of Drawing a thick marker ring around Gaza where they can you know where they're going to put their forces and so there was a lot of discussion going up all the way to hours before this thing being announced on like literally how many meters are they going to be allowed to remain inside of Gaza but on paper this

is full withdrawal and then envisions a permanent ceasefire part of what Netanyahu has been trying to sell the people you know in his Coalition and in Israel is that Israel we're really just making a deal for phase one and you know and that you know we're we're in the driver's seat here and I think that they believe that they're going to be able to uh convince Trump that there's been a violation that allows them to basically just resume you know really intensely attacking the people of Gaza um you know but so so there are there

are loopholes that Israel can try to exploit and the Trump Dynamic is a wild one as you know Like I I don't think any of us are under the illusion that Trump's motivated by love of the Palestinians of Gaza or humanitarian concerns and there's certainly like a gift bag Muhammad shahada the Palestinian journalist who's been covering this in an you know really in-depth way I was just talking to him and he was like you know there's a goodie bag that Trump is you know is giving to Netanyahu and the reports in the Israeli press indicate

that it's It's filled with a lot of really significant things including this possibility of resuming the war in Gaza so you know I I I I think we have to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time Trump absolutely was a decisive factor in certainly in the timing of this but really in kind of finally forcing Israel to agree to it that's true on the other hand Trump promotes himself as the most pro-israel president possible there's indications he doesn't Personally like Netanyahu at all which could create some interesting opportunities but on a

political level I wouldn't be hanging any hopes that Trump somehow wants this thing entirely done the one wild card here is like I don't think that Donald Trump necessarily wants the Middle East in flames you know he's got all these other things he wants to you know wants to do during this uh term as president so you know there are some accidental things that could end up Benefiting the people of Palestine under Trump whereas you know Biden was like a you know a geriatric vampire just refusing to like leave and um and and you know

really dedicated to the project of Greater Israel like throughout his whole career so I mean the Palestinians they look to the left they see something terrible they look to the right they see something terrible there's a weird way in which they could end up with a better deal under Trump's presidency just Because of how absolutely atrocious Joe Biden is on on the issue of Palestine yeah other indicators that Donald Trump obviously uh is most likely cutting side deals with Benjamin n yahu that are not addressed in this uh at all of course stem from the

reality that he might not like Benjamin n yahu but he does like Miriam Adon or at least he likes a100 million that he got from Miriam Adon and previously when he ran last time he he liked it from Sheldon who is now dead Totally I mean well look at the wackadoodle he's putting in charge of Embassy there you know Huck yeah a complete Evangelical Zionist rabid sociopath like worse than anything anyone could have ever imagined a person who says Palestinians don't exist and a person who refuses to call the West Bank the West Bank calls

it Judea and Samaria I mean he's like aimar benir type in American power like it's like it's the equivalent basically I totally I totally Understand that and that's why like I've been trying to explain to people cuz there's a lot of people in my chat that are saying you know how dare you give Trump credit for this I can't believe you're praising no no but what look look just spend a few minutes reading generally reliable or mainstream sources you can find it from the left to the far right in Israeli media they know what some

of those people seem to not want to like you know accept which is that Whatever you think of trump or why Trump did this we would not be talking about a Sunday Sunday uh cessation of Israel's war happening had Trump not intervene that's a fact that's not praising Trump that's just being that's just factual thank you exactly and yeah that's just the truth what do you say to the fact that Trump didn't send like a like a Statesman at all but just like a real estate developer that he golfs with to talk to uh Benjamin

inyu what do you Feel about the witkoff I mean this story is so surreal you probably talked about this but I'll just tell a brief version of it again that like it's come out now in the Israeli media apparently last Friday uh Steve witkoff who is a a billionaire real estate Tycoon you know a Trump Golf Buddy as you say and who really looked like a deer caught in the headlights when Trump pulled him under the stage in Mar Lago like you know a week ago but witkoff has been there with Brett mcgurk and burns

and you know from the CIA and others and they've been a part of this team because you know Trump obviously is going to be president soon and you know Netanyahu was pulling the kind of stuff that he pulled on Biden and Company for you know a year and a half and and so wickoff Trump's Envoy is in Doha and he's meeting with the mediators and he calls Israel and says like I'm coming tomorrow to meet with Netanyahu and netanyahu's people say oh No it's Shabbat he can't you know he can't come it's it's the Sabbath

and wickoff basically says like I don't care what day it is he is going to meet me and um you know wickoff himself is also Jewish and he said you know like he was like yeah it doesn't matter what day it is I'm I'm there and by the way like like Netanyahu is some like religious scholar or something I mean give me a break you know the guy's like receiving Cohiba cigars and like jewelry you know According to the new Alex gney movie like literally handed this stuff I think that deliberate is what I'm saying

like I I suspected that it's like very that is something so like um remarkably Shady real estate developer type where you're like strong arming your opponent by humiliating them to just like undermine them and tell them like who's the real person in charge and it feels like also like that disrespect I feel like is like deliberate it is but also like you know When I mean Anthony blinkin none of these people take him seriously like he's you know he he's just not he's just not taken seriously it's just a fact you know he's just a

creature of the Washington blob but Trump sends like literally like a golf buddy and it sort it reminds me a little bit like in The Godfather films like Tom Hagen you know like when Tom Hagen would show up somewhere as like the conary it's like you knew he was speaking for the da and I think that's part of what Trump does it's like he's not sending some some career bureaucrat over there he's sending like an actual buddy of his and that guy is is not you know well versed in diplomacy and he's just saying no

no the president wants this done and I I I I think probably that really took the anal the the the the Israelis by surprise with the caveat that this narrative in a way benefits Netanyahu because he can kind oh Trump sort of Trump kind of forced the hand and you know they're going to get all of these other things out of it same thing with the sideshow of benir and smotrich like oh we're going to break up the government like that far right flank of Netanyahu is is kind of good for his propaganda right now

he's kind of trying to have it all ways so like yes I think there's a real thing that happened there that that is serious but part of this is all show you know is show and part of This is spin so you know take it all with a grain of salt you know read all sources but you know there is no question Palestinians recognize it the Israelis recognize it I'm talking about people that are making this deal Trump played a decisive factor in this and I know it's making people's heads explode but we have to

be able look we're this is going to be a long four years ahead of us a long four years and we have to learn to be able to walk and chew gum at The same time when we analyze the Trump presidency and remember that Joe Biden was one of the most bloodthirsty war mongers in American history with this war facilitating a heinous genocide and gleefully doing it for large parts of it so let's be accurate let's be honest let's call a spade a spade let's recognize the dangers of trump let's talk about the dangers of

trump but also we need to be able to speak honestly about it like you know we we have to Tell the truth yeah absolutely now comes a moment of speculation because I know I've I've listened to some of the conversations that you had uh with Muhammad and I agree with the assessment that was made in said conversations about what the future of Palestine looks like whether there be a there's been some Whispers of a potential side deal a side agreement that Donald Trump might have conducted with Benjamin n yahu in Mara Lago but also on

top of that there Is this uh idea that like the next 42 days will be of utmost importance first and foremost the next four days will be incredibly important because Israel does have a tendency to escalate its bombing campaigns in the buildup to a ceasefire they've always done this historically they're doing it as we speak right now and they're doing it as exactly they're doing it right now as we are having this conversation so every single Palestinian I've talked to that is in Gaza right now I'm like how are you are you feeling about this

are you are you feeling joyous has said I'm waiting for Sunday like Sunday cannot come soon enough because every single person no matter what age they are is like I will celebrate when it's Sunday when the ceasefire is actually implemented because they all know that Israel's modus operandi in situations like this is to really escalate the bombing until the very last moment of the uh Facilitation of ceasefire but then after that there is obviously 42 days of supposed peace and in the aftermath of that when Phase 1 turns into phase 2 with like the troops

leaving the the region the iof like leaving uh the Gaza Strip that is where everyone is speculating that uh Benjamin nyaho will Sully on the deal and will go back to business as usual could happen that way um although once you get this kind of a um of a framework in place there will be Different forms of challenges to Israel trying to do that um you also are you know you this also envisions Internationals being on the ground in you know a variety of capacities so um I think that's a real risk I think it's

a real possibility I don't think it's a fate to comple um and you know I I I have had a similar experience with Palestinians I've been talking to today in Gaza except I mean I think on the one hand like Abu Bakr Abed who's you know Reports for dropsite and electronic inata and and went viral with his press conference the other day talking about the lack of solidarity with Palestinian journalists you know he's he's crying tears of joy I mean just the the the the mere idea that that there could be um an end to

this even even if the future is uncertain you know I think we have you we have to recognize the none of us understand the complex emotions of what it's like to be a Palestinian of Gaza Particularly a Palestinian who is in Gaza right now I mean even Muhammad shahada who's not in Gaza right now but is from Gaza at the endend of my conversation with him he he said you know that as I as I look at all of this and I start to realize how many people from my own family are either killed or

missing you know so so many of us we talk to Palestinians we ask them to tell tell us the facts what's going on give us analysis you know my friend Lila Al Aran the great journalist from Al jazer her her mother's family has lost 200 people 200 members of their family have been killed in Gaza and so you know I I I think it is important for them to be able to celebrate this moment while recognizing that they are dealing with Liars War mongers who are intent on erasing their people from the from the world

and all of us we cannot stop talking about Gaza this in fact this is probably one of the most important Moments for people to actually all be focused on it because the attent people are oh well this is resolved it's not resolved we're dealing with really dangerous people on the other side of this agreement that have a long history of violating these agreements and you know and that's where the the the bad parts of trump come into play when it relates to Israel like to what extent is he actually going to be willing to restrain

Netanyahu what deals has he Already made these are really really relevant questions um you know Trump trump is dangerous on Israel for sure he is dangerous he's dangerous for the Palestinians but he's the one that at least got this to stop for now when it comes to you know American officials or American figures I mean what's your speculation as to what will happen in the next next couple of days though if you don't mind me asking yeah yeah I mean well I think I think that there was An order issued Israeli media reporting this that

the Israeli forces are supposed to continue full spectrum intense attacks right up to the moment that this thing officially kicks into effect it's supposed to be on on Sunday you know I I I think that one Dynamic here when when the is when Israeli captives start to get released and we start to learn who's alive and who's dead I think that there is going to be pressure felt from the Israelis to Punish the the Palestinians again depending on who's living who's dead what's described about their condition so you know we should pay close attention to

this and what will often be lost in this is those kinds of stories from the Palestinian Palestinians have been rap in Israeli prisons um sexually abused rap physically abused tortured raped to death you know had all sorts of of sadistic experimentation happen on them and I think that it is important That we also focus on those stories the individual stories of Palestinians Who come out of those prisons you know we all watched what was happening in Syria I mean those first days when the when the Assad government was brought down and and you know Syria

is still very much up in the air but just on a micro level looking at what does it look like when the prison bars are broken down what does it look like when people get free and you see the emotion and and and I think any any human being seeing people released from dungeons if you're a normal caring human being it pulls at your heart in a very real way and it's like the Palestinians have been waiting 77 years to have those moments for their people that are are locked up in these Israeli prisons and

you know we don't do enough work on telling the individual stories of the Palestinian hostages of the Palestinians who've been snatched in the Israeli media they've done a very Effective job they tell the story every single Israeli who was taken captive their stories have been told uh in films in news segments In Articles there's memorials there's posters there's more than 10,000 Palestinians there's no posters for them there's no Stories being written about what's happened to them I mean look at the children who've who've lost limbs there's no additional $250 million from a governing party in

the interest of doing more propaganda to The West either on the Palestinian side in the way that like the Israeli knesset has uh offered additional budget allotments to doing just that to hosb operations and this this obviously works effectively to humanize only Israelis in this process and actively undermine and dehumanize the Palestinian victims in the hands of Israel despite you know the numbers showing a far different reality than the one that is presented in mainstream news I guess the last Question I have for you JY and thank you so much for spending time with us

today is in terms of going into Gaza this is a real question that I have both for myself I've been talking to some people that have worked inside of uh Gaza in the past as well like some of the journalists and if the Rafa Corridor is open in the aftermath of of this ceasefire is there a possibility to go into Gaza and how dangerous it is like do you think that Israel will allow Foreign journalists and foreign humanitarian rights groups to actually go into Gaza to conduct investigations and to shine a light to the full

scale of the atrocities because I'm very fearful that this goes completely against Israel's interest of maintaining this uh faucet of propaganda and if all of a sudden as you've mentioned the claims being made by Palestinians are laid bare and are now being shown by Western reporters you know these trusted Uh institutions that Western chauvinists uh seemingly only care about when they are uh reporting on it all of a sudden the dynamic will be very different and it will will uh certainly play a role in undermining Israel on the on the uh Global political stage I

mean there's a there's a real question whether Israel will even be able to uh would even be able to prevent it um you know and and the Egyptian government has not exactly been uh the great facilitator of of Press being able to go cross over into Gaza I mean it happens um it doesn't it doesn't happen now but it has happened in the past but there's been a lot of struggle and early on in the in the Gaza gen side you know there was an attempt you know activist Caravans went down and the Egyptian government

tried to stop them and and you've had journalists try to go down and only a handful of non-palestinian journalists have been able to make it in usually you know for A very brief moment of time like um I don't want to get into a whole side discussion about clar I was just talking about her earlier this morning that was to give her her flowers on that one that was actually a ballsy move that she pulled off and I do respect her say I'm bring it up because it's like you know it's it's that that's been

the like kind of that's the that's been thrown to the kind of broader press is that like Occasionally something like that has happened but there's a real question of whether they're going to be able to stop it you know because um Egypt also is going to insist on its sovereignty and this equation my guess is that there that journalists are going to be able to get in on the issue of safety look you're in an unstable environment where at any moment the Israelis could decide that there's been a quote unquote violation um but I think

I think Journalists have to try to go in and I think journalists need to continue the pressure and you know to their credit Western reporters have gone through a process of is Israel where they filed litigation saying that this is you know undemocratic and uh anti-press to not allow journalists to go in there um I think there's going to be a lot of Western journalists um you know of all Stripes that are trying to get in there um it's it's like I mean if you're Talking about yourself going in there you know I I I

I think you have to trust local reporters and journalists and listen to them and and take seriously their assessments but that kind of work is always dangerous this is not like you're going on you know an organized field trip or something like this is no this is real this is serious and um and the Israelis are very very dangerous um so I think that you know we we also at dropsite we have to talk about how we're Going to uh you know going to approach this I mean very very early on we were trying to

get people in when I was you know when I was back at The Intercept we had discussions about it we've had discussions about it a drop site we have great Palestinian colleagues that have done a remarkably heroic job covering this um it's important also that non-palestinian journalists go in there to to uh to to pick up uh you know some of the the the pressure on our Palestinian colleagues and start telling the world and the reality is unfortunately that sometimes people listen more to th you know to non-p Palestinian journalism I me that's just like

it's horrible and but it's true and I think that it's going to be an undeniable crime scene that people are going to be witnessing and that's why the Israelis don't want anybody in there yeah I don't know I I mean I'm I'm thinking about the logistics like this Just happen so uh you know it it will be like the nature of my coverage is that it's realtime live stream broadcasting so I don't know if that offers a Crosshair or a shield in that regard where it's just like a it's it's something that is um you

know impossible to to reckon with or avoid I guess in that regard I mean look I you know I was I was in I was in Yemen at the height of Obama's drone Wars and in Somalia and other places where you know is there Officially a war declared no but there's you know part of part of the nature of of War I mean I think people who watch too many films think it's just like all the time one of the most terrifying things about being in a war zone is that nothing ever happens in a

predictable manner you can think that you know oh we're like you know we're we were out in the we were out in the field let me just give you an example we're out in the field we're filming people we were Filming this thing but now we're back to wherever we're we're staying and we're safe well why do you think you're safe anything can happen there so it's the unpredictable unexpected nature of it that often is kind of the most terrifying and I think that's true also of civilians you know how many stories of Palestinians did

we hear where a parent says oh I went out to forage for food and then their family is killed when they go out or someone gets sent Out to go and do a mundane task I'm going to fill some water and they end up getting killed I mean to me that's the war is not like you see in films it's like one of the most terrifying aspects of it is that it can bad horrifying things can happen at any moment and and you know I think that that Vibe is still going to be true even

if the there's this quote unquote you know cessation of hostilities in that first phase um but that's that's what journalists do they They they go and they take calculated risks and sometimes the calculations have to be thrown away because of that unpredictable nature of what can happen in a war zone well I'd like to talk to you more about that offline as well in terms of like uh what the best possible way to do that as well but thank you so much uh Jeremy for coming on and enlightening us as always and also thank you

so much for your consistent continued coverage and thanks to you Also like you really helped get dropsite off the ground and like so many people from this stream are now like subscribers and write us and you know so we're we're super uh we're we're super grateful like for your solidarity and your helping also helping drop site launch into the world you you you you often like disparage yourself man but like when you do something that's when you when you do something that's hitting it's really hitting like you know and And I think your voice matters

more than you give yourself credit for I try to do my best but I am at the end of the day nothing without my community and I think that they are the ones who make my reach more meaningful I think but once again thank you so much all right one take care everybody all right bye that was Jeremy scale of dropsite news ladies and Gent gentlemen