Best ICT Trader: He Exposes Why 90% of SMC Traders FAIL!

My account went Zero from 4K to 17K to zero all in a span of like a month and I Was Defeated out I gave up trading for a bit at this point if I'm honest I was like I can't I can't stomach that I was literally depressed all you need to know is this [Music] so welcome everyone back to another words of risdom podcast we're still here in Dubai this is the sort of the custom if you will but we're here today we are back now with someone who does trade SMC And Trades alongside ICT

concepts with Omar hi my name is Omar 21 and a Trader ICT Concepts it's felt like a dating show there but like it Asia um but yeah welcome welcome I know that obviously I put a poll out in terms of ICT Traders on on Twitter and uh we've got a lot of people saying your name and it just so happened you're out in Dubai as well so it could make it happen yeah yeah but um normally how we start is nice and simple with everyone just tell us a bit about your Journey you know getting

into trading how long you've been trading for some of the you know key moments and then from there it'll just take you from there really for sure so I've traded now this is my fourth year I started 18 um after I finished a levels I took a gap year now in the Gap here um life kind of hits you hard you have to kind of it's a weird very weird like you're in between like a rock and a hard place essentially I had to get a job and um I was working before during my eight

levels weekends I was working in Primark retail store and then I shifted to Tesco's and when I was working the pay is it's not great now I come from a family you know like lower class family uh dad was mom and dad first generation here essentially and I just kind of you know some people in the heart you just know you cannot settle for whatever it is you're doing right so I thought of a way okay there's has to be ways to make money outside now I was introduced to trading before I didn't take the

step into it by IML I had some friends that was sucked into by IMO essentially I was looking at Drop Shipping I was looking at other things Right I know trading kind of sat well with me um I'm very astute with mathematics and it you know trading goes hand in hand the logic the graphs what not high higher has high lows that type of thing I thought oh it's just like statistics right so then I dived into it of course I dived into retail first because the first thing you look at back then now is

different and we can speak about that as well the first thing I looked at was someone called rain a tower I don't know if you're familiar with him a big retail guy and now he was a simple Market structure or whatnot and I thought oh okay this is easy straight away open a demo account place a few sides I'd even know the lot sizes and whatever I'll just get familiar with mt4 didn't demo properly funded a live account uh I lost that live account and then what happened was I came across ict's YouTube channel now

with ICT that was a period where he was doing his private mentorship from like this is act 2018 and he was never posting on YouTube again if you got this YouTube channel that was like a big gap between his uploads and I was like this guy is way too accurate he's calling this level before it's Getting there and whatnot and I thought okay let me try and get into this guy's mentorship he opened it again in 2020 and I was able to get into it now from that it was a very big paradigm shift in

my trading the logic he was using was essentially The Fading of retail but now right so instead in the sense with my journey now I studied ICT Concepts I am I purely use ict's Concepts uh I'm funded this day do you work I saw your interviewer Roger bank so we could speak about that as well it's more so the person executing the concepts essentially right there's 90 the 90 news in every single if you're trading wedges if you're trading SMC fair value gaps whatever it is it's 90 all using and it's because of the development

of the trader right so now I fall back to only ICT Concepts I believe they do work I believe that there is essentially no one speaking about real smart money though I feel like everyone now is just a patent Trader they just look for are you familiar with the qm model called quasi model essentially it's um are ones Quasimodo isn't either guy from yeah yeah because yeah because it looks like that Um it's basically a breaker block okay it's the ICT breaker block so the so a bearish break High a low then they'll run on

the high and then the pinky so it looks at quasi model and um people look for that without context no higher time from narrative they see it on the one minute five minute and they essentially that trading retail patterns and they don't ever admit and the thing with SMC guys now they kind of bash retail I don't bash retail I think every SMC Trader has a develop I mean I used to batch retail back in maybe two years oh yeah you guys are my liquidity and my you know you might take profit is your stop

loss and all this malarkey but then you kind of develop and you grow to learn I know so many people trading SMC Concepts the majority of Twitter right now is trading SMC Concepts but how many win it comes down to the executes right and it comes down to the thing of they think they're trading SMC but they're not they're just essentially trading retail patterns that's my opinion on the matter and the SMC right um it goes a lot deeper I I'm a person right I don't ever take someone's word as Holy Grail ICT said this

I didn't even blight follow him when he was telling me so I went on to do my own backside like my back testing and studies and he was always banging on about time his time then price time and then price the kill zones for example right so you've got your London open the new open but how many people even ask why is this time of day high probability and that kind of spot why is the Asian range the Asian range why does Midnight's opening price have you know the weight that Midnight's opening price has if

you use Midnight's opening prices and then I done a study and I came across a lot of things and it's very interesting um I'll show you the DM before I arrived here and also about uh you know settlements and Clearing Houses I'll give a few Clearing Houses and for the people watching this if your smart money concept Trader this is what you want to go into because essentially it's all time critical payments right there's three things that I'd want the viewers to check into right the first is the CLS group the second is the dtcc

and the third being the FED while the FED wire being the most Important but in the dtcc you'll see the FED wire as well they're all co-linked together now it's not your bank's moving price it's not JPMorgan it's not you know UBS um IBM it's not these type of you know people City Bank it's not them you have to think about their you know large funds 100 I agree they're large funds and they have their large level liquidity but who are they going to clear their positions to they're going to these clearing companies if you

look at what the FED wire is right the FED wire is literally a Clearinghouse it's what they're doing is this they're the ones facilitating all of the trading and the payments from large institutions if you just Google fed wire this is what comes up and I'm sure on the Google definition it tells you one thing it doesn't care about the price they do it purely off of a time like it's a it's a timeline this time this happens that time this happens whatever and then if you go and you link these timelines it's really really

cool you'll start to see the pattern of London Kill Zone this happens New York Killzone this happens London's close this happens The Asian range to midnight this is what's happening it's very very cool um just a step further into it you'll see the timeline is kind of split into two kind of portions liquidity generation well this is how I how I've broken it down it doesn't say like this but there's liquidity generation because full liquidity to be delivered has to be generated right liquidity generation happens from the Asian range to midnight a lot of times

and what happens what does it mean by liquidity generation if you look at these timelines by these settlement companies this is where they're taken in orders pay-ins and there's a Time on the CLS group I think so and the dtcc they have a time where they cut it off this is what's what's happening for this day now what we're on in terms of the financial system right now of the whole world we're on something called the t plus two system are you familiar with t plus two t plus one so t plus two system right

pay-ins get given today it will be delivered within a two-day frame right this is what people mean by it's priced in because what what's happening with the delivery from today Is happening from two trading days ago it's not the weekend the does he now there's also going to be a paradigm shift in 2024 and this is said on the internet and this is kind of why I think you know how ICT has come back he's come back and he's saying I have one year to teach you guys right and he keeps I don't know how

if you guys keep up with him and he keeps banging on this is the year you don't have this is the year and he's kind of hinting at something right if you check it and it's on it's public it's public knowledge if you go on the dtcc's website I think it's March the 21st of March 2024 which is next month there's going to be a change in the gross settlement you know it like the whole financial system they're going to change the way they want to do they want to do it they want to change

from t plus two from it delivering in two days to a t plus one now there's also t plus zero which is basically instant now they can't do t plus zero made that jump from t plus two to t plus zero because of um efficiencies and the way it can damage you know people just aren't ready for institutions Already for it they don't have the you know they have facilities and infrastructure they haven't innovated themselves enough to handle that kind of jump so they're going to move to a t plus one another T plus one

it has a different timeline to the t plus two so I'm assuming there's going to be some sort of change in the financial system given to t plus one it won't be large the it shows you the kind of times I want to move to it's perhaps half an hour in the difference between it maybe your kill zones will shift to 15 odd minutes or whatnot but nonetheless it's proven because a lot of people think SMC is just made up as an algorithm uh it's just a random random algorithm that doesn't consider fundamentals or interest

rates or news or anything of that sort what if there is a document that I can share with you guys right and it's said and it's a central bank that says it it's not a secondary source material it's a primary source material from the Swiss national bank and they say that the pay-ins and payouts are all delivered algorithmically by a complex algorithm this I don't know if this is the argument that ICT hints to but it kind of makes Sense that it count it can't be buying a setting pressure given these big entities are saying

right it's all on a timeline price isn't relevant to them because price isn't a constant on the trial right time is a constant every single day it goes from Midnight to midnight to midnight to midnight while Price grow from 101 under the XY to 102 doesn't have to come start again from the base it can keep on going they don't care about the price everything is delivered swiftly on a timeline this is what people don't consider now if why is this important and I know I'm talking a lot but it's important stuff the reason being

in science right every single model is you know repetitive and you can make the same model essentially right like um gravity in a vacuum and whatnot the reason is because there's controls now if there's controls in your chart which there is clearly is time and we know that what happens in specific times you could have a very repetitive trading model most days of the week the only thing you need to align is price within the time zones now it's when I saw this and this isn't from ict's mentorship this isn't um I don't know how

many people Were in ict's mentorship that's watching this uh if you were a chartered member or whatever you can kind of back me in the fact that he doesn't give it to you on a plate he pushes you into that direction he kind of talks in riddles this is why a lot of people have their own mentorships and stuff because cuts out the fluff from ICT accessory straight to the point type thing and he pushed I was essentially pushed into that direction to find that now when I found this I don't know how familiar people

are but 8 30 am across a lot of markets the currency market indices Market in UK time uh no U.S Time 1 30 PM UK time right and you can back test this and a lot of people on Twitter talk about the 8 30 time there is usually a retracement into some sort of fair value Gap or run on stops and a30 essentially is you'll find a lot of high probability trade setups within the 8 30 time give or take a 15 minute candle so 8 15 to 8 45. that fedwise thing we spoke about

there is an injection of liquidity that the FED wire do at 8 30 a.m every single trading day how is it that lines up with a high probability trade itself and I Traded this out personally 8 30 A.M that time from them lands up with a high probability technical a lot of the time it's it can't be a coincidence right was interesting because obviously when I trade as well I trade purely in the technical side and even with fundamentals for example because at that time 1 30 p.m UK time so AP New York yeah not

a lot of news events at that time so you know is that injection the news related is it the if Ed wire as you say um this is the interesting thing about trading this is why I sort of adopt the mentality of I don't I just focus on the technical side you know I don't focus on uh don't get me wrong there's you know what you've presented there and discussed there can be very helpful especially if it AIDS into your bias for sure um but for me you know how you see these debates you know

you see these debates on Twitter and online so like we've seen yeah we had rajaron saying uh you know outlandish claims like SMC is is doesn't exist but then afterwards saying how you know this is how the banks trade is the bit that he doesn't agree with for example I totally agree with that Banks do not Trade SMC there is not an SMC trade at you know a JP Morgan for example I don't know where this institutional stuff even came from I think I think it's marketing you know I think people start courses and they

say because even before SMC there were courses saying you know we trade like the banks you know even if they're teaching retail even if they're teaching people I don't I don't like the terms I've never liked terms like retail all this I just mean there's different types of confluences different strategies uh but because of marketing and because it's easier to sell something if you say hey this is shiny this is new this is the way you know this is how the big players and the big boys are doing it uh I think that's where it

came from because before smart money Concepts were like kind of in the Limelight you know these recent years um you know a lot of these guys selling courses we're selling what people Define as retail so you trend lines your wedges your flags Etc but yet they were claiming to sell it as this is how the banks trade you know so I think that's where it comes from I even I used to have a lot of back and Forth on Twitter right now I'm not too active I'm more active for more so on Telegram and Snapchat

it's just um I think those social medias is way easier to filter out because Snapchat you decide to your story you want to watch on it's where everything is just in your face now in this I think from last year the attention from Trading has gone to just debating pointless things on Twitter I mean there's constant debate I think it's all about you know can people do a healthy debate you know or can they you know do they just get too polarized so like the issue not that I have with ICT for example but the

issue I think a lot of people have with ICT is simply just because people just get too Associated to the man and to the to the idea it's very cold like yeah it's coming from a chartered member that only trades ICT is cult it's a cult I see so when I see his post and there's people calling him King and go and all these it's it's called like and there's people that have his emblem in their bios and whatever is he's got a call like following us yeah um and it happens though like I respect

it in one degree because at the end of the day you know and Then I have nothing against ITT I have never watched I think I watched like three or four of his uh recent I think 2022 mentorship oh yeah but I haven't like actually watched any of his content um and I haven't been in his you know his mentorship or anything like that either and so I I don't you know I can't give a comment I can't say the ICT is bad or good or anything what I know is look he's putting a lot

of information out on YouTube for free yeah right over this last year in particular I know that he's you know giving a lot of information your Twitter spaces for example talking about psychology Etc as well as you say you know the one thing I do here and even from watching those four or five videos as well there's a lot of fluff as you say there's a lot of uh Rants and stuff his own personal life gets dragged into it yeah so like I hear these things right I also know from years and years that he

just loves to I don't know if he loves it he must love it because he wouldn't do it otherwise but he loves to like try and not attack but he loves to have debates or or has like This drama with other people right whether it's a guy called something Vinnie or something it used to be Astro effects it was Astro effects yeah and then it was Roger Banks and it's Vinnie then it's there's always someone yeah that's what I found and um at the end of the day look if you've got time and energy for

that as a as a man with you know with a family you know fair play too you know um you know maybe you know he's made that much money I'm trading he has the time to do it I don't know but even then it doesn't bother me like it is this is the thing where people get involved with these things I never understand it when you pick sides and things and waste your energy when you're still not a consistent Trader that's where the it gets ruined you know you hit the known that had the inconsistent

Traders wasting time on telegram group chats and wasting time on Twitter and a lot of people do this on Twitter as well Twitter you know is it there's two sides or Twitter you can either be on the very hard side or the very helpful side of town now a lot of people what they do is this on Twitter they'll have a hard day trading and they'll go and post about on Twitter And I as brutal as it sounds kind words and people dming you oh it's okay it's not gonna help you become better of course

it's nice to hear it can be reassuring if sometimes it's good for their Mentor I totally agree but going there seeking attention or this might not even be seeking attention you just might want to put out there saying look I'm a trade on I'll take losses but if you're taking consistent hours and you're inconsistent there's don't be on Twitter posting when I was learning right I was in my Gap here so I had the benefit of time it was literally just wake up Tesco's study given if I had a late shift or early shift I

would study before or after I'd even started in my lunch break right now I was nowhere to be found on socials I was studying minimum perhaps four hours a day smashing it out right now there's people out there and I help people learn how to trade and I tell them all the time I see you on the telegram chat for four hours a day how can you be studying and be on the telegram chat for four hours a day it makes no sense because that's a thing right Community is good to an extent now what

I do is I only Expose people to the community I have once they done some work because if I just put them straight in they'll just deadest cushion right Community is good but if it creates you know complacency and oh I'm just wasting time you don't need a community remember trading is a solo game I say to all the people all the time if you're in a group Trading let's say it's five people there's one person trading or four people taking a signal there's no there's no way you can open a trot and you're both

in the exact same candle and the same idea you may have the same setup and whatnot but the fact that you're both finding it in the same speed because some people first find it faster than others the way that you're emotionally feeding to take the trade there's no way you can have the exactly herd mentality exactly it's a hard mentality that's what I say to people do it solo and when you do it solo it's hard it's very you know it can be quite lonely right coming from someone that done it by themselves it was

very lonely but you will excel way faster than someone that is essentially jumping into the deep end isn't it yeah and one thing about embracing the adversity Exactly exactly you have to get comfortable with the uncom with the uncomfort right and something with ICT as well right and smart money Concepts there is a big difference between the two right the difference is this um being someone that studied ict's materials and seen what's on the smcs today ICT talks a lot about narrative a lot of the times it doesn't even point to technicals um he does

something called a weekly commentary daily commentaries and stuff and it's all about narrative the way it was in the mentorship was he gave 12 cool content and those are lessons and then the weekly commentaries is just the blending of all the lessons and essentially in real time trading is the lessons are basically useless without the weekly commentary because it shows you how to use it essentially it's like the cement between bricks okay yeah now a lot of people what they do is this they learn and I was very guilty of doing this as well look

for the keywords order block imbalance okay this is audible this is imbalance I've got the Holy Grail now and they'll go and do it but they don't understand where ICT excels is Understanding The Narrative right knowing is the daily likely to point towards higher prices or lower prices this is whereas this is where you should start from if you can sieve out a bias you should only trade in line with that bias because in a five minute time frame it's going to look like it's offering both sides of the day but if you look at

the daily candle the expansion is probably going to favor one side now you can serve out whether that daily count is going to favor one side and this is what ICT says right but these are the things that SMC people don't talk about they don't touch on the narrative they don't touch on the higher time from analysis they only just teach you and essentially why it works because you have to think about human psychology you know when we look at videos and I was guilty as like you know for this myself right we're looking for

the most you know appealing video to watch oh this one has a nice model and a rectangle candle that I can just watch compared to a one hour lecture yeah it's gonna be way more appealing to watch but how good is it for you it's gonna trap you into this short-term mindset like I get the question every single day right which order block do I use which fair value Gap do I use what do I do I get sent charts right of the five minute time frame and I tell people what uses this five minute

time frame without the idea of you know perhaps a four hour or one hour a day without contact exactly you're just taking a trade without context and I say to people all the time if you have a daily bias and one thing that really like does man not even with SMC Traders is the super tight stop losses because these things it's not even taught by uh ICT in any in any video he always kind of says make your stop loss safe the way I see a stop loss is this it's an invalidation level right yeah

it's simply just invalidation at that point you just want to get out now on a funded account um let's say I have a 300K fund that I come with mff one that comes to 300K right I'm not putting one percent risk on a two pip Stop Plus because they can open a spreads up and I could get slipped on a 2-pip stop loss yeah a safe stop loss and a take profit that's gonna get hit more times than not with an entry that should reverse in your favor retail SMC or not Do that for long

enough you still that's it it's consistency isn't it you know yes the objective is obviously to be profitable it doesn't I know a lot of emphasis is on risk to reward and small stops and lower time frames and I think that's where a lot of the sort of uh attention has been brought to especially over recent years I think there is a slightly better narrative coming along now I think there's a lot of people who probably spent time in built experience in SMC now for a few years to have learned those lessons and they're becoming

a bit more vocal you know whether they're on Twitter or Instagram or whatever so you know people hopefully if they come across these people and listen to them then the narrative is changing slightly things like this podcast you know um but yeah there's a huge problem with people just getting sucked into those lower time frames a lack of context trading confluences you know and as you say when people watch videos they'll watch a video and and they'll see your videos an hour where instead if they watch like just a commentary you know thinking uh he's

talking about the markets for example or a forecast you know or Case study these are things direct straight to the end you know rather than the beginning and I think probably people get put off and start to hate ICT for example because the video might be an hour and a half and there might be some rants in there um that they then feel resentment because they don't want to watch an hour and a half video they wouldn't want to put in that effort and time you know and I think as well a lot of the

video is a lot of is Waffle and now he says it's on purpose is it on purpose I just think this is nature right by the sounds of it it sounds like his personality I have an encore that just talks and he'll tell a story right and the story I don't know if it's done or if he's getting to the point it's just I'm just it just goes yeah this is good right some people just love the sound of their own voice in a way it's just their nature isn't it and I think ICT falls

into that Academy just loves you I think was as equally equals it jaw burning just talking a lot he even has a temperate that's it that's fine but in terms of your journey then so you know we talked about Clearing Houses so from my you know I haven't done deep research To be honest with you I'm probably guilty myself of uh just sort of learning technicals you know just spending time learning technicals but to be honest the Deep research just comes to me as a person yeah I just I'll always if someone tells me something

okay I'll I'll do my own due diligence before I'm not going to say you're wrong I'm that's arrogance I would never do that's ignorance how to go and do my own research now it's what it does for me is it just gives me comfort in knowing the way I trade the emphasis I have on time is gonna it's you know it's real it's not just a man telling me online yeah that these things happen and this and that you know these things are real is there's real things that you can go online and research the

things was the CLS group The dtcc and fedwire you can in terms of clearinghouses then is that where these orders are going to is that what you're getting at so like you have the institutions you have the hedge funds but for them to place their orders they don't place it themselves they place it over at least people think it's JP Morgan making the market yeah and they're doing it For their high value clients and then move the money around who did it go to do it JP Morgan don't do it remember it's a central bank

who owns a currency um so I studied economics and I tutor economics and the role of a central bank is to create forward markets this is that this is a role of the central bank now the dtcc and the fedwire is literally the Federal Reserve right they work they coexist with the central bank they have access to the central Max liquidity and they're facilitating the trade the payments from so I'll give you an example there's um entity a and nttb and they want to make a payment from uscisa two Euros now what they act as

is essentially like an escrow right they go and they do it and the dtcc is given the payments to payment on the t plus two system right so within two days they're gonna go and receive it now this is where okay why is this useful why does it matter right because people think okay this might this might just be saying a lot of words why it's important is how is it delivered is it algorithmically or is it random buying or selling pressure by big funds this is the importance now It says it's algorithmically delivered now

ICT is claiming to show you the signatures of algorithmic delivery at these specific times now you care about and all that care about is I don't care if you know there is a mega algorithm I think there is a four efficiency reasons I don't think it'll be over the counter normal we're just at that stage of the world where it won't be right I care about the delivery I don't care about who's doing it I just care about the delivery because if there is signatures where it shows it's going to reprice you know sell models

and buy models that's what I need to be profitable that's it I care about how is it being delivered I don't care who's delivering it is there a signature in knowing when how it's going to be delivered you know institutional overflow entry jobs these type of things that's what I care about to know that's it that's the framework that I'm trying to work in simply So based off that then so you have this knowledge right and you have this understanding in terms of potentially being algorithmically um delivered but then do you then off the back

of that have your specific entry drills that You then obviously utilize data definitely and by the way with the algorithm it's not 100 of course there's going to be some sort of skewness and even ICT says it does go into a state or manual intervention right um I'm just by no means I'm an ICT Maxi it's just me taking from what I've studied myself now in terms of my framework are you familiar with power of three accumulation manipulation yeah that's what I do every single day so if I'm expecting a bullish day from the opening

price I want to see accumulation beforehand in the Asian range preferably the accumulation could go into London actually New York and non-close specifically oh that's that's where uh that's my niche in trading right um in New York I'll even look for a simple continuation or if a point of interest is it I'll try and frame a reversal trade uh given whatever I am in the power of three model it's always a power of three on The Daily the daily candle so I'm just open low high close so let's say it's a bullish date the bullish

candle was most likely to open make the low then the high and then close near the high right so I'm waiting for manipulation to the Low and seeing confirmation that we're about to expand to make the opposing end of the range and I'll just once I have that framework and this is what people do they over complicate the entry I need this very value lined up with this order block at this time of day with a optimal trade entry on the fit all you need to know is this where is Price Right Now where has

it come from where is that they likely to expand to where it's price likely to go in this job that I'm looking at a simple retracement entry with a safe stop loss Target where price is likely to go rinse and repeat that every single day I don't know if you complicated it you don't need this Ultra 10 pit uh fire pit three pip stop loss I usually have a two to One max four to one risk to Road ratio four to one I barely get I'll use it so rather than fix risks to reward it's

more where does it make sense for prices exactly my take profit is in a place where price should smash essentially right so it's uh if I'm bullish I'm going to put a device inefficiency like an imbalance right now if that's a two to one I'll take a two to one if it's a 1.8 to one I'll take a 1.8 to one if it's a if it's a five to one it's a good day for me I'm gonna go and try to get the five to one I don't have a fixed all because I fixed all

right people just like to stretch that TP because they want to chase money now is that take profit likely to get swerved and how long do you want to be in that trade because as a Trader and I'm from experience even now if a trade is open and I'm a scalper right I won't even eat until that trade is I'm just fixated yeah I'm just too fixated on it so it does good for your mental health as well if um you put a reasonable take profit because it gets hit you can go about your day

I'm simple well sometimes it depends on obviously the type of Entry I'd imagine because I use fixed uh for example uh but it's based on the fact that my overall so that that fixed R will be well within you know if it needed to break structure needed to make new highs needed to take liquidity and keep going then obviously I'd reduce it or not take the trade um but yeah no it makes sense obviously if you're forcing and uh I never agree with that don't I've seen people where they do that as well Where they

forcibly try and get a one to five for example and that one to five has to break structure keep going keep going keep going yeah you know and it's way off right there is a way less likely chance of a hitting but yeah they'll keep it there for the sake of the Viva so yeah no I couldn't agree more but in terms of your journey then so obviously started quite Young And as you said you uh took a gap year as well obviously did you get any resistance from family in terms of the Gap year

and trading um it was very tough so um in school you're familiar with the UK systems yeah right yeah so sixth form is uh two years yeah 12 year 13. um 100 I was always pretty bright in school but I was very Troublesome I used to have um some friends and just recently just used to muck around in school in year 12 I was predicted three years I done um mathematics economics and business and it's quite it's a crazy story in year 13 I switched it on because I have older brothers uh School wasn't for

them as well and I'm the middle one and um no one in my my family ever made it to University and I have pressure because I have a cousin right and Now he's graduated from Oxford with a PPE degree which is like the most prestigious degree that you can get from Oxford right so obviously it's like a family comparison or how is he doing whatever uh and you're you know I turned it around and I got um the highest grades in my year incredible and it was it was pretty crazy but it's deeper than that

what it showed was is this when I put my mind down and I used the brain that God gifted me I could make things work and it's that it's that knowing you see school and I tell people this all the time school is just deeper than your grades because it teaches you that if you're consistent studying at the right things and you're determined you can get it done now you can take that same hard work from school and apply it to every facet of your life if it's in the gym financial goals whatever it is

you can apply that to all facets of your life now I took a gap here because um with the three used predictions you can't really do much in terms of apply to universities and this is where it got hard right um so I could pretty much apply everywhere with the grades I've got right I got an A star in two ways now My mind at this point was this Oxford Oxford Oxford because my cousin right so I applied to Oxford um if you don't know what Oxford University is um kind of a pretty prestigious University

and um inside the Stanford is like the MIT at the top of uh you know of the UK right now with uh Oxford it's a bit different to this applying and getting them so applied to Oxford uh I didn't do Cambridge UCL Kings College Queen Mary and uh I think lse I've got replies from all of them uh Oxford they make you do tests and exams yeah so it's like a private school type thing so I done the exam and my um my secretary School paid for it and then the interview and um I smashed

and I got the offer but one condition of Oxford is this you have to live out you can't do remote study adults and I didn't want to take a um maintenance loan I didn't want to do that my mom was against like you know whatever but then my mom kind of said but it's Oxford yeah and I said I can't do that Mom like it was for people almost for economic Management in Oxford and it was really hard for me bro it was so hard I is people might think I'm like well I declined Oxford

I I saw it and at this point I was in my Gap year and I was really fixated on training because I was seeing progression fast I was I like to say I'm academically ahead of the curve and it's just like that in life if you know you are like take advantage of what you got I was getting this trading thing very fast I was every single day seeing progression and saying I think price is going to go here from where it is right now and boom it's doing it or My Demo account is doing

it this is inside of ict's mentorship right now instead of going for Oxford um I went to King's College I'm still at King's College I'm in my last year now and I'm studying accounting and finance instead I'm not the best in terms of studying because I can't shift my focus to studying that much I have a few other things other than trading as well um it's a bit tough uh but yeah um I don't want to drop out because I just want to finish it just for myself and I'll be the first person in my

family to kind of do University in terms of trading um when I told Mom I don't there's one point I said I don't even want to go uni at Walmart I can have a lot of conversation with my Mom I'm kind of blessed like I'm Asian I know like not a lot of people can have conversation with their parents they're really fixated on University my dad is a complete opposite um I came my dad out of the loop of it on if I'm all honest I just tell him I'm in uni what not and um

my mama said um I don't want to go you don't do this trading thing and she was like don't believe in it she don't believe in it at all now at one point I blew a big account not funded account I was trading a personal account now I was working in Tesco's and it took me like it took me like five months to save up this money and it was really dumb because it was every penny I had it was four thousand pounds which is a lot of money to me like even now 100 it's

a lot of money four thousand pounds four thousand pounds with four thousand pounds at like 19 20. uh is a lot of money and especially when you've worked five six months it's everything you got yeah did you have no other savings and there's everything I had nothing I put that all into an icy markets account and um bro it's so crazy it was GBP JPY and this I have PTSD with JPY Yeah and then I had a swing trade and I was in good profit for um the account was from 4K now the risk management

was pretty poor it was like five percent risk of trade I flipped that account to 16k from and it was all in profit it was a permitted trade right so it's this trade is still going and this is brexit time for the UK so you can imagine brexit and GB oh when all the volatility was going on Boris was in charge at this time as well um one day I remember like if you show me the chart I can show you the weekly candle of it it was in August August uh three years ago in

August and my account got deleted in a day I remember I was at Tesco and every single day I was like I'm Gonna Leave Here man like I made the money like I'm like 16k up like this is a lot of money I can one percent one percent is going to be 200 pounds now like I'm making I've done it and um on the bus home from Tesco I see it's a bit of it's going it's eating into my profits I go home right and I'm on a PlayStation party with my friends playing Call of

Duty and I see my account just read I removed the stop losses because I Thought uh they will turn around just run on stops right it's Gotta just to be a ShakeOut type thing am I count one zero from 4K to 17K to zero all in a span of like a month and I Was Defeated out I gave up trading for a bit at this point if I'm honest I was like I can't I can't stomach that I was I was literally depressed and this I'm saying this openly to you guys now it's nothing right

it's part of the journey whatever about the time obviously in that moment manage your risk because you enter dark places in your life I don't want anyone to ever experience what I experienced at that point like I was sleeping and waking up and wishing our wishes night time so I can just get another day over and done without sleep yeah I was proper like in my feelings and then I kind of shrugged it off and one day like I say all the time time is the Healer of everything right you'll get over it a few

months down the line I remember it so clearly I was just brushing my teeth with myself tomorrow I was like you know what give it a go again like you're good you know what it is it's just your risk management to sucked at that point I gave it a go what do you think it was though You know so it's 4K and you'd saved up obviously for five months was it just the how old are we at the time maybe 19 20 I was 19. yeah so was it just the the realization that this could

you know allow me to do certain things did you have a certain image that you wanted once I saw that account and that was real money 17K I said this you will close that I tasted it I was at the you know when you're at the doorstep of the bakery and you can smell it but you're just not inside that was me I was smelling it I just didn't get to taste it properly and then I gave it a novel go and alhamdulillah is being only upwards since um funded Max with mff I was even

featured on our interview with mff on YouTube um last year done quite a lot on funded accounts in general uh this year um I'm trying to actually expand um I have spoken to a few people about other types of capital uh it's going well uh well they're still funded Capital as well trying to I'm trying to go for one with a leaderboard this year I think you know again a leaderboard will be a bit a bit cool bragging rights what do you think about that though so like for me I don't really you Know in

leaderboards wise I think it's like uh it's all there to blow your account I think so yeah I think people you know it's because I've met people where they said oh my goal and they're not consistent yeah right so not even consistent yet not even funded yet but they go my goal is to get back to back three months on the leaderboard and I'm like how's that your first goal like why is that the first thing you say in terms of your goal when you're not consistent you're not even funded but yet your goal is

to get fund apparently past funding yeah and get free back to back yeah when in reality if you look at their stats everyone who gets on that leaderboard blows their account the next month it's very true and um if you look at a stats it's even worse they don't even make it to the first payoff let alone the leaderboard and exactly I'll tell you straight this whole VIP mff right this whole 14 days uh bi-weekly payout it's all there to blow your account I thought I don't know if the platforms gonna like this it's there

to make you trade faster yeah because now right so mff and I so I help people trade right and I told them that when you pass the first month You have to trade a month what you're gonna do is this make one or two percent of your account and sit on that account do your minimum trading is and get your refund once you got your refund and investment Wise It's you're risk-free right you're risk-free and whatever if you lost that account and it might hurt financially you're okay you probably make profit on an Roi basis

right yeah now what people do is this they see okay now I get paid every 14 days 10 days plus I'm drawdown but I get payout in four days let me just go risk if you don't get it to one person if you missed that 14 day it doesn't mean that you cannot then go and make more profit right you can go and wait till 15 16 17 days you can still get paid out then there's way two months I don't think there's a rule right exactly I told people all the time this year let's

say you go 100K come now let's say you're on two to three percent drawdown you have as long as you need to get out of the drawdown how much longer is it to blow their account and pass another one it's way longer than if you trade with your head screwed on get out of the draw like and drawdowns aren't going to be get out of fast this Is the thing right um I told people when I apply something called a dynamic risk profile right this is how I trade from the initial I risk one percent

now if I make a buffer of let's say four percent I'll increase it to 1.5 because now if I take a loss it doesn't hurt and if I win my win is this bigger right but when I'm in drawdown you enter a danger territory automatically you endangered you're in danger zone the reason being is because your account's under balance and now your tilt kind of creeps into you as in the stress of a Trader right no one likes to see red or under you know when you're on 100K it goes to like 99k that little

shave of the digits it comes down lower yeah it's a bit it gets to all of us right some people manage it better than other stuff take time again I'll draw that reduce the risk and get our drawdown and then see like this right trading a four percent of your account is a luxury to kind of have a special funded account where you have drawdowns right this is what people don't realize and this is the thing of um this is why you can't be a Trader in only three months or four months I told people

all the time you want to be a Trader You go submit to the time of the development I can teach you all the technicals you want in three months I can teach you every single technical in possibly two months right but I can't help you develop alongside those things time can only do that experiences the best teacher after the person that's teaching your technicals and whatnot exactly your development as a Trader learning your framework my older brother right I can teach in the exit I can teach them a market maker song can he go and

do it every single day probably not could he draw on paper for you and you know draw a chart and then post it onto it and with all the parts and make it look like he's someone that's you know knowledgeable 100 you can but how many people can execute alongside it that's what matters it doesn't matter how how many buzzwords you know a lot of people are big on buzzwords yeah he knows all of this and a lot of people what they do is this they get a concept something that already exists spin it the

tiniest bit and the slap on a new tire a new label put this new thing and it's again going back to what we Said before it's just a it's a marketing gimmick just goes around in circles yeah so in terms of like the mff for example I watched your uh briefly watched your interview and I saw that you know you had 300K you went up I think you got withdrawal for like three 4K and then you had this one big trade as well like 27k oh yeah that was a massive trade so like with that

you had obviously smaller trades and you had this one big one and then from 27 I think you ended up with like 33 something like that and then withdrew so was that like a a higher risk trade or what happened is this right I say all the time um I've done Combat Sports before right just keep jamming at your guy a big tree is going to come right now this is and I'll tell you honestly that's what I do from experience and if people say this is poor risk management you can say what you want

but this is what I do that trade I remember it was a market maker buy model on a Euro USD or GBP USD I think a GBP USD now if I see price it's displacing like it's going ham towards my take profit and I look and there is like a lot of upside targets right I'm gonna ruin my take profit and I'm gonna manually look To close it out right the stop loss doesn't get removed at all nothing I'm never removing a stop loss the risk is the risk on the trade but I'm removing the

take profit and it's fine because I'm manually there right I'm removing the take profit because I'm letting my Runner run essentially that's what I'm doing right now even think about where I could have let it run but it's all could have would have should have and I let that one run now the ones before they probably just weren't Runners they were just you know and I say that all the time yes it was luck but was it prepared luck definitely because what I'm doing is this I'm setting my account up and I'm trading smart I'm

not blowing my account on these small dumb trades and my account is going to experience these trophy everyone has a trophy trade right and the only way you get to experience is this right for example I tell people all the time if the daily chart is unclear wait for a few days to pass the reason being is you're going to see a lot of opportunity you probably play out and you don't want to burn your account out inside the concept inside the consolidation you're gonna Wait for Clear trading environment yeah and that's where patience pays

I say all the time and give up three days of trading for two weeks of bias these things are big things to consider and this is only what experience you can teach you because trading side of consolidation some people might have an edge in that that's not my Edge right I don't knock it if you want to do it you can do it right that big trade compared to the small ones there was just a matter of fact of it was just a trophy trade um and that wasn't even the biggest trade I had by

the way I've had bigger payouts than that one it's just they just decided the way they do it is this um on the month given you were like one of the top three they'll do it so just for that month though I was I think the top three that's what mff do I believe they probably just pick whoever's got a big one yeah yeah that sounds good it's good for them I think all of them do yeah we'll do that um that's what they need you know yeah but um but yeah it sounds good and

then in terms of the profit then you know because you're very young and especially because you had a 4K account which went to 17 and blew it now you made 33 on One trade uh what was that like you know well not what a 33 on one trade but a 33 payout what was that like for you oh that was you know so you know like um it was It was kind of surreal because I'd done it for deal um and um so the way deal works is when you get paid to bank it's not

paid to your bank you don't put your shortcut account on what they don't pay it's like deal deals like a PayPal um then you link your card to deal and then they get automatically transferred if you have that stuff which I do when I saw um after the conversion was like 30k ish and when I saw that landed tomorrow so I woke up and I saw the Barclays notification you've been paid uh x amount into your bank account hours at home I did I tell my bank account I was like oh that's that's pretty it's

you know it was sick um what did I do with it um I told people all the time your trading money is just income because you make your trading profit is not guaranteed a month for month this is what you have to realize it's a Trader I had a big month I even then had drawdown right um I had a 40K payout afterwards in August July was tough for me July was in drawdown and I had To trade out the drawdown and I showed people it like look I was in a drawdown I made 960

pounds at the end of July I think come August I was hitting I think I had eight back-to-back winners and then I took a loss and I was like cool I'll just I'll just take what I have and then I took that one and now it's just I always go for like a few percent a month because the account says I have a few percent a month is more than more than any job is going to pay me especially at this age this age right and this is no way in a bragging right I'm just

showing you guys the power of funded accounts and trading the skill of trading I made in one in just my one years or pays out like payouts right I've surpassed what my peers in school right they graduate five years of their work I'm five years ahead of the curve just because of that and it's all about identifying it from a young age some people are blessed with it some people aren't 25 if you're 25 and watching this 25 is by no means a young age old age sorry 25 even 30 like life I feel old

like 21. it's always a thing of like um I wish I'd done it I could say I Wish I'd done it at 19 I wish I don't know 18 it's all just it's it's worth it yeah um in terms of how it felt when I was getting paid out of these amounts I was surreal like it's crazy like you know like I can't it felt kind of strange making the time do you feel like this not imposter syndrome but I remember when I got my first payout especially after taking heavy losses uh I remember it

was like I felt like when this big win would come that life would change you know so did it feel different for you or did life just go on so I'm a big ER I love to eat food now I can go to a restaurant and just so I went to a restaurant the other day and I never got T-bone steak I got a team of steak it was so big I never finished it um I can just you know wake up and I don't have to worry about when I was at Tesco's it was

money my I was pinching pennies I was like I couldn't eat like spending even 10 pounds would I'd have to think about it now I have the luxury of just I can do it just eat for 15 pounds and to me that people I think 50 pounds this guy's getting 4K pale where I come from it's a big jump and it's the time like it happened so quickly when I was um you know like not profitable and not making money just relying off my job and stuff I was also tutoring attitude uh economics funny enough

Australian economics for the school that I went to they wanted to come back and Trio and um the money wasn't there of course I'll just you know even go to Nando's right at night was like a treat to me but now it's like you can have a nice breakfast lunch and dinner it's it's not really a big deal yeah nothing's changed man it's crazy life will just flip on his headbot you know it's people only see the tip of the iceberg essentially to get here was a wrestle the wrestle was how many times I died

myself was crazy I doubt myself and I told you I was open I need to quit I did quit for like three months I didn't even look at a truck I was just working Tesco I was considering you know like going hard with the uni thing whatever if I didn't do that I said to and I think I saw you something uh of yours I follow your tweets all the time on Twitter and I say the same thing and I said to the people that I helped trade as well I said um if you could

write a letter to your old self and three is time would you thank them So as like I said to myself all the time if I wrote a letter to 18 World Omar I would tell him I love you thank you for what you've done our life is better now because of what you're doing now if you're still 21 think about when you're 25 can you thank the 21 inform yourself of yourself this is how you be proud of you exactly that's how it is how you have to do it being a good Trader I'm

being sued outside of trading they coexist together you have to have your life sorted out of course all your trading to be I say all the time the person off the chart it really helps the person on the chart you can't be someone that's you know intoxicated and going out partying every single day when I see people you know these marketers online and I see they're always you know clubbing on Yachts 24 7. it's not like they work and then work hard play Hot they're just play hard that's it um you should really raise an

eyebrow red flag yes a really big red flag because how can you be doing all these things and then have a laser-like focus it's very very clear to see who's you know actually you know a Trader there's a big distinction between a Marketer and a Trader because marketing is very profitable as well right trading is difficult but it's also just as rewarding as well and you see which ones the ears are route to take isn't it exactly yeah no exactly and it's very very true and I try to highlight that fact as well but you

know how people are they yeah you see these Services about passing funded accounts I think it's uh it's an easy money for the people doing it especially if they can pass it off especially I think now it's like higher time frame trading that's the high frequency trading sorry um and you know a lot of Pop firms obviously shutting that down not allowing it so obviously that's going to go but uh it's it doesn't make a difference because the person might get the funded account and if they're lucky they might get to the the refund stage

and get one payout but overall they'll lose and they'll just do it again yeah so all they're essentially doing is going to pay for they're just adding an extra buy-in right so they're paying for the yeah they're buying the challenge and then they have to pay this other person right and in the end they're still going To lose it because they haven't proven themselves you know I understand why because you think that if I just avoid the challenge of verification I'll keep the funded but the reality is if you can't pass that challenge of verification

it's there for a reason it's called verification yeah exactly to verify if you can trade and you deserve the account exactly exactly now in terms of we're coming towards the end so we're gonna do quick fire questions uh so we have a decent amount of time for that so we've talked about Clearinghouse where we talked about our right and uh price delivery so when you hear people say you know SMC doesn't work you know and there's no algorithm what are your thoughts study more I think you know simply study more because there is a lot

of people out there and they're sharing I have even live videos of myself trading and it's on my Twitter always on my telegram like it's live it's there it's quoting price before it happens it's not like icts but it's still you know it's consistent and I've done it for a few days in a row just to show it's not luck right do I can I do it every day no I can't do every day because not every day is high Probability for the people that saying the SSC doesn't work it's the executor of the system

right the technicals definitely work you can see there's plenty of proof that it works there's without a doubt it works yes you know and I'd say it's this it's more logical to take the it's efficiently an algorithm you get delivered over a random buying and selling pressure because if it was running random buying and selling pressure so many so many fallacies open up to that so the Central Bank don't have full governance over their currency which they own right they own it right you see when people say JPMorgan makes the price of the currency and

whatnot JP Morgan is like this it's like Nike and they're like foot Asylum who decides the price for phonak it's Nike Nike is at the Central Bank they're deciding the price they're just an outlet giving it right but the actual price of it is being delivered by the person who who creates it's the central bank that's why I say it to people all the time hello I think a lot of people can take note from what you just said there now in terms of your age Right uh and doing what you've done and achieved but

during that process of you know saving money working kind of being outside the norm because you took the Gap year and went and did the job instead and trying out trading no doubt you know your people around you you know maybe friends even uh they probably would have thought what's he doing you know what's he doing what's he doing his job what was it like in your mindset wise I never I have friends and they've never asked me about trading will help them trade ever I have older brothers they not trade um they just think

it's not for everyone the money you have to have a passion for it me I love it all I do is I help trade or I teach oh I trade myself right that's what I do every single day um nothing's really changed around that it's not like I have a good set of friends my friends have been my friend since childhood Incredibles year seven there's been no new I don't really I'm kind of an introvert I don't really leave my house too much um so yeah meeting new people I've met Trader friends online but they're

like at a similar level so it's not like oh I'm jealous of him whatever It's everyone's you know everyone's happy I wanted to grow together yeah that's good and uh in terms of uh coming out to Dubai so you're here and it's the first time in Dubai yeah first time traveling in general yeah what do you think awesome me I don't even want to go back to the UK I don't even want to go back to the UK it's so different everything is about 2 A.M here everything is open the food is amazing um the

weather is even better the hospitality is second to nonetheless it's your first time traveling yeah in general yeah yeah so what's that like you know obviously you're quite young is it opening The Horizon yeah it was opening the Horizon it definitely broadens my mind like it's a big motivational factor for me as well like I see all these big buildings I'm thinking like oh imagine having a apartment at the top there um the apartment I'm at right now is pretty nice I'm thinking you know this could be a reality if I wanted to um the

UK is just dull it's good no it's good to hear because I always say to people you know yeah a lot of people say when you're young you enjoy yourself one thing I do say to people is Try to travel when you're young because you've got less responsibilities it's much easier when you're especially if you don't have a partner especially if you don't have kids of course yeah so it's much easier to do and as you say you learn so much and it opens your horizons to what's out there and it's very motivating factor so

I'm glad to hear that you started that now as well um one question I do get a lot in terms of asking people is one of those like generic types which is like if you lost everything if everyone was to go back to zero we had to start again what would be your advice to yourself or what would you do I say this to people all the time as well I say to people all the time the money and the way you've made your money if you lost it all could you run it up can

you run it up again and trading is a school you can because I thought about this right and I told people all the time like because my beauty was simply like this from Tesco save our money-funded account over time snowball I didn't start from a big account right um a 20K account I'll put into easy perspective like this right if I lost everything I could I Earned and I told you straight I earned 550 pounds every single month working a 14-hour contract at Tesco's it was a two-day weekend if I did overtime which I did

a 700 800 pound I'll go and buy a 20K account now if I make three to four percent which I could given me now if I lost it all now I can trade I could make that three to four percent and that's not crazy three four percent a month doable that's one percent a week right that doubles if I add that with my wage because I'm just working the weekend and I say to people all the time if you're young and you Trading apart time drops the best because it La especially a weekend job where

it doesn't kind of interrupt your trading throughout the week it's the best because then you can watch all the sessions I wanna when you get to a nine to five and you know the shackles are kind of getting to you is very very tough because how do you monitor chart in your nine to five do you have the time and what not and simply just buy a 20K account or if I could afford a 50k account now three percent on the 20K count is going to be around 500 pounds after the splits and FX exchanges

to my deal account that's I've automatically doubled my net worth yep from Tesco now what do I do go about another one go buy another one now all it boils down to is this do you have the patience to stick to the plan how many people have the patience and this is where get rich quick comes in right because you can take a overlapping trade and you'll kind of set yourself down blow the account you're back to square one it's all about incremental it's at the gym um like you go to the gym I can

tell uh I was getting there when you look in the mirror after just your first session you don't look crazy especially when you just start but month on month you start to see okay I'm shredding I'm getting a bit bigger I'm getting stronger your strength gains are going to be very noticeable does Jim and the and trading go exactly handle only differences one is the gym and one is trading right you don't get hensch in a day just like you don't become a Trader in a day incrementally keep increasing it now if what happens if

you just go into the gym and just do a one rep max every single day you're gonna break Your back or break your shoulders if you go in and risk your entire account every single day it's a it's a pipe it's a pipe dream one trade away from blurry Network that's that's my advice definitely no I think it's a very valid advice and people can take away a lot from it so last question here and then we're going to finish up so money management it sounds like you have a very uh clued on in terms

of money management obviously you said you study you know accountancy and finance is that what's been helpful did you Outsource or what like in general money management yeah for yourself some people just have a benefit of myself you live a harder Financial life and you just kind of get these things through life's natural okay the natural course of life so when I was at Tesco I'm using the same thing just different size of money now basically I can spend this much I couldn't do this much whatever it is okay that's literally all it is is

the money management doesn't change you can of course I can be a bit more you know overzealous with my spending I can buy myself nicer things but it's all percentage-wise how do you control it is that how you break it into Percentages so what I do is this I try to save as much as I can because I have big dreams I want to make big investments in Central and one like I just want to make loads of big Investments right so I try to live a mediocre I'm 21 right 25 if I keep going

I'll be very very you know in a very good spot right definitely 21 right now a lot of people get when you're new to money it's very easy to blow it and I listen to people and I actually have friends right and I speak to someone and he's actually like he's very done very well in crypto and he tells me don't do what I've done don't go travel the world don't I don't even I'm not a party person so that's all good and stuff he's like don't buy a big car be careful with your taxes

this is why I'm in the Bible because funded accounts by the way they're not capital gains tax they are Income Tax you get invoiced into your do account in the UK that's a 45 or if given that you're making good money account so come to Dubai you know if you can get some sort of residency here it's about a zero percent taxes if it's a corpus nine percent now I believe um yeah that's that's literally it I love it I love it and a lot Of people can take note once again I don't I don't

you know not people that want a big car on these type of things you know I I say if you have the money do it because the thing is you can drive your car every single day and it's going to remind you four nights do those type of things right is my fun big cause and stuff no I have a pretty boring type thing I'd rather just enjoy myself not have to ever worry about a bill being paid I want to make sure that my mom I'm just embracing the adversity now I have a little

sister that I would never want to work her to work I have a mom and dad to you know retire properly and I have a little brother as well older brothers can help you know dead men they can you know whatever right um but yeah just make yourself comfortable with other people comfortable I'm more of a community person right I like to spend time with the people here like even if I was in Dubai by myself I'd never want to move it unless I can move my people here with me okay yeah that's that really

no it's amazing to him and it's been a pleasure speaking and I think a lot of people you know you open my Eyes in terms of the Clearing Houses I'm gonna have to go research now I'm sure many people are I'll DM you the I have the links I'll deal with the links definitely it's very interesting it's just an added layer of confidence just so that you can have kind of confidence in that okay this time stuff is real and it's time and then it's price then price yeah there you go that's it I like

it times constant and prices and every just one every single model in maps I studied statistics right um it's all just a relationship between two things all the chart shows is the time and the price without the time and the price you don't know where it's showing without the axes you have no idea what the charter show nickel show Apple these bananas the relationship between time the given price that's it I respect it I respect it a lot uh but thank you Emma it's been a pleasure and no doubt we'll probably reconnect in the UK

sometime definitely definitely and uh yeah well that wraps us up thank you for tuning in make sure you drop a comment with obviously what your biggest takeaway was your thoughts with the whole SMC and not SMC debate as well and definitely what Omar dropped Today uh links for Omar will be in the description below thank you for being a subscriber by now no doubt we've surpassed 10 000 subscribers so salute to your and until next time [Music]