So, Bill Maher brought on this woke Democrat Neil Degrasse Tyson onto his show, Club Random Podcast, and let's just say things got heated. Before we begin, don't forget to like, share, comment, and subscribe. It helps the channel out a lot.
All right, let's get into it. Aberlova. What?
What do you mean I have I have nothing? What do you mean? A beef?
You She has beef with you. Why does she have a beef with me? Because you think like guys with dicks should get in the women's swimming pool basically.
Oh no, no. I Oh, no. I Well, whatever got clipped and reposted, I don't know.
But what I said was that the um in this emergent space where you have people expressing themselves on a gender spectrum and you want to now compete in sports, we that's still a frontier to be solved. And I don't have the answer, but I can suggest one whether or not it'll work. Maybe we don't compete by gender anymore.
We compete on hormone ratios. Okay. Is it testo?
There was a woman who had uncommonly high testosterone levels and they wanted to disqualify her because of how manly she was when she was born a woman and competing as a woman. So if we're that's how we're going to do it, you know, there's again this what you really want. Wait, Bill.
No, I've thought this through more than you might think I have. So what you really want is an interesting contest between people who are similarly talented. The least the least interesting Super Bowl you could ever watch is a blowout by by halftime.
See, what we agree on is that there are anomalies in human nature. Whereas, yes, you know, the vast majority of people, I'm sorry, are still male or female. And certainly every cell in our body is dictating one of those other the sexes.
I mean, obviously hormones are obviously that's well also I make uh sperm and other people make eggs. That's what hormones do. you you can't that okay so this but we as liberals we I think agree that you know there are anomalies in nature uh and they should be respected and protected but this attempt to reorganize all of society around what a very tiny percentage who again we can protect and respect without pretending that every baby is a jump ball like penis what the [ __ ] I don't know that doesn't mean anything we have no idea what this child is I mean that that seems to be where you want to go.
I mean like how many people fit this description that we should reorganize sports around sports is we have men's sports and women's sports and if the best team in the WNBA played the worst team in the NBA the score would be a million to zero. Can we organize society around that basic point without with this of course proviso that we protect and and respect people who do not fit into it. Let's segregate society between darkkinned people and lightkinned people because that nature made it that way and that's how it is.
So well nature did make it that way. You are and it's not segregating well segregating anything. that attitude 150 years ago was it was I two years ago you act like this was a Yes.
Right. Lincoln this was a big issue in the Lincoln Douglas debates trans people. That's right.
I remember that from 1861. Yes. I remember those debates Lincoln was all about getting trans.
Oh for [ __ ] sake. You're ridiculous. Saying is that how about this?
I'm looking at schools in Manhattan and there's a school there and there's a old from like built in the 20s and 30s and there's a doorway that says boys and a separate doorway on the other side of school that says girls. Oh god, why are we doing this? Because people are mostly boys and girls.
But why split them entering a school building? Because they pee differently. [laughter] Jesus Christ.
That I have to have to explain this. No, because you know what I thought when I saw that? It's colored fountain over here, white fountain over here.
That's what I thought when I saw that. Well, you that's not the same thing. Well, it's not exactly the same thing, but that's what I thought.
It's not exactly I agree. Okay, I agree. But this is what I always say about these kind of issues.
Like there's two ways that you can be benited about something. One, you can be too far from it. Yeah.
Like I would be too far from c certain issues, racial issues of course. How could I ever know, right? You can also be lost sort of thinkingwise as I am because I'm too far from it if you're too close to it.
Yes. Uh that can you miss the elephant. Well, you miss the elephant.
It's the fly on the Mona Lisa. Mhm. Why the fly wants to be on the Mona Lisa, I don't know.
And I can't even appreciate art. But okay, you [clears throat] get my point. [snorts] And so like I think when you see that, I totally understand why a man of your age does.
But I don't think it's accurate. So I used to wrestle high school and college. [laughter] Okay.
It's it's relevant to this conversation. Believe on. So I was captain of my high school team undefeated.
Although Wow. But it was in New York. The the real wrestlers are in like Iowa, you know, and Oklahoma.
Oh, I'm sure there's some wrestlers. There's some. But if you really balance it out, no tough guys.
We got tough guys, but they'll shoot you or punch you in the face. They're not wrestling with wrestling moves. But anyhow, uh what you want is a match that's interesting to observe, not where one person dominates the other.
In wrestling, they know this. There are 10 weight categories. In high school, I was 190bs.
That was 50 lbs ago or more. I was 190bs. Very good incentive to stay there because if I were one pound over, the next category was unlimited.
So, I was there at 190 lbs. I'm not wrestling someone 127. No, they find somebody else in 127 to wrestle 127.
That makes the match more interesting for the viewer. So if we can split wrestling into 10 categories and that becomes the wrestling, but all men against each other. Correct.
So now of key point. Okay. Okay.
So all I'm saying is what is it that makes the man the man? Is it the hormones? Okay.
Is it if it's the hormones and you decide to give yourself a different cocktail of hormones? I'm making this up, by the way. I'm not saying it should happen this way.
It's a way to start thinking about it. Maybe the track meats have hormone categories. And maybe giving yourself the wrong hormones is dilitterious to your health.
Would you not admit that? Do you think we can just safely do things like this? So you feel this way because you're concerned about you're so deeply concerned about the health of the people who are trying to find their place on the gender spectrum.
You care about their health so much that you don't want them to go through that. It's not something that keeps me up at night. But when the subject comes up, I care about them like I care about all people.
So if there is something I do, by the way, you think about all people. Of course. Yeah.
I give you that. Okay. You're being You think about all people?
No, I'm being I do. Yes. Yeah.
[clears throat] Old school liberal. What stood out to me in this conversation isn't just the disagreement. It's how completely disconnected one side is from basic reality and how even someone like Bill Maher, who's been a lifelong liberal, is starting to hit that wall.
You can literally hear the moment where the conversation stops being about inclusion and starts becoming about bending reality to fit an ideology. When Neil deGrasse Tyson starts floating the idea of hormone-based competition instead of male and female categories is where I knew the far left has lost the plot. And it's exactly what a lot of people in this country are getting tired of because let's be honest, biologically there is only man and woman.
That's not controversial. That's not hateful. It's just reality.
What Mar is pushing back on in his own way is this idea that we need to reorganize entire systems, sports, language, even basic definitions of male and female to accommodate a tiny fraction of the population. And again, this isn't about disrespecting anyone. It's about scale and common sense, which seems very lacking in the Democratic party.
You don't tear down the foundation of society to solve an edge case. And the comparison Tyson tries to make, bringing up things like segregation or racial divisions. That's where this argument really falls apart.
Because those historical injustices were about denying people equal rights under the law, that is not the same as acknowledging biological differences in physical competition. Trying to equate the two is just totally dumb. What's interesting is Maher keeps coming back to something very simple.
People want fairness and they want reality to make sense. That's it. He's not even arguing from a conservative perspective.
He's arguing for what is supposed to be normal. And now that position is being treated like it's controversial. That tells you how far things have shifted with the woke left.
It's insane. This is exactly the kind of nonsense that woke up a lot of voters over the last few years. It's not just about sports.
It's about trust. When institutions, media, and even scientists start saying things that clearly don't line up with everyday experience, it gets worrying. we start questioning everything else those same institutions say and that's how you lose credibility not just politically but culturally.
There's also something else here. The refusal to draw any lines. Without that, you don't have order.
You have confusion. And you can hear it in Mars tone. He's frustrated.
Not because he's suddenly conservative, but because he's watching his own side abandon sense in real time. At the end of the day, this debate isn't going away. But the more the left insists on rewriting basic truths, the more push back they're going to get, not just from conservatives, but from everyday people who feel like they're being asked to ignore what's right in front of them.
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