The "Indian Lake Project" Mystery

it could potentially be one of the most disturbing things that I've ever covered on this channel in the summer of 1997 a man was hiking alone deep in the heart of the Adirondack Mountains while hiking along an unmarked in isolated trail this man stubbed his toe on a half-buried metal container intrigued the man began to dig around the container until he was eventually able to pry it up from the soil how could he have known that the contents inside that box could have potentially revealed one of the darkest secrets that the US government has ever

captain now growing up in New York State I had become quite familiar with the urban legends that are kind of rooted in the area and one in particular has captivated my attention for the past few years in that being the Indian lake project now this is a story that could be just that a story but if true it could potentially be one of the most disturbing things that I have ever covered on this channel now going back to our story this man opened up this metal container and what he found inside was shocking 21 photos

three rolls of film and a number of classified documents and the contents of these photos and documents painted a disturbing picture of what may have happened in the area that this man was hiking now terrified this man shut the box and took it home with him and he tried to forget about it but after his death in 2002 the box was then passed on to his nephew John know it became John's mission to discover the truth behind what his uncle had found in the woods that day and in his pursuit to find the truth he

would go on to share his story with the Internet and he shared it in real time as he was discovering new things now the majority of this video is gonna be me recapping John's findings and also sharing his story along the way and because this is a story that developed in real time of it are going to be confusing but by the end I assure you that there will be a clear picture painted as to what may have happened in this Indian Lake project now John's blog is where the story was told with his first

post explaining how he had come into contact in possession with the box and from there he went on to post two photos of the actual box itself and he left a caption alongside this saying that he would scan the contents of the box and post as many of them as he could in the future and sure enough he followed through on his word he posted two photos of what he claimed to show a military base that had once been stationed in Indian Lake and he would go on to call this the Indian Lake Project military

base very original name I must say now according to some of the documents that John had this was supposedly a top-secret temporary military base that ran in the area from 1952 to 1955 the base was hidden deep in the woods of Indian Lake New York and just looking at a map of the area I mean this seems like the perfect place to hide a military base it is in the middle of absolutely in nowhere and it's surrounded by woods on every side so the idea that the military could have been hiding a base in the

area honestly doesn't seem that far-fetched but even if there was a secret military base there why does it matter so much what were they doing in this base that makes it so interesting and so terrifying well based off of the documents and the photos that John had he quickly became convinced that the Indian Lake project was a set of experiments done on humans and most disturbingly these experiments seemed to have been done primarily on children but at this point he wasn't sure of what these experiments actually were and what exactly they were testing in the

first place however based off for the information that he had he could tell that it was something sinister now John later went on to show three photos each depicting three individual children each photo contained the name that was potentially given to the child along with a number and a strange symbol these pictures were posted with the cap Roger Sam and Sally are the quoted names along with numbers printed on the face of these photos these are obviously not the children's real names but assigned names as I looked at the names and numbers the first time

my uncle had showed them to me I didn't quite grasp what it meant I remember that my uncle had told me Roger was probably one child out of 837 based on his number kept at the camp his word kept struck me as both eerie and accurate so at this point things are getting really sketchy I mean these photos are clearly not normal and with the knowledge that we have up until this point one could assume that maybe these children were being held kind of like as guinea pigs and if Roger really was one child out

of 837 then this was clearly a huge experiment like that means there could have been upwards of 1,000 children in this remote area and this remote military base being tested on and whether these kids were consenting to these experiments or not is still unclear but it's very strange nonetheless and that brings up the question could a child really consent to human experimentation I mean in my opinion I really don't think so so yeah things are sketchy things are strange and they're about to get a lot stranger another photo was posted with what appeared to be

a bird out face of a military member this photo was posted with the caption I think this photo is very telling and was included in the box for a reason it shows two men one civilian in one military the civilian man perhaps one of the scientists or project directors is recognizable the second man has purposely had his face obscured it looks as if the photo is telling us that this civilian is important to the ILP while trying to protect the identity of the officer he is shown with could that officer be the man whose box

it was was he trying to shed light on the subject without exposing himself maybe the civilian is a key figure in the tragic Indian Lake project experiments look closely in between the two men and you can see one of the I ope children now this leaves the mind to wander to very dark places as to the type of experiments that they were doing at the space and honestly John's post up until this point have just left us with questions after question after question with not much answers but the potential breakthrough was coming now left out

of these original posts was one piece of key evidence the film rolls now lucky for us John actually decided to develop some stills from these rolls of film though he apparently was never actually able to view the film's in whole because he was afraid that it would damn because there had been so much water damage in the box and he didn't want to permanently ruin the little pieces of evidence that he actually had but nonetheless the stills provided from this film roll were still enough to kind of paint a picture as to what was happening

there shown in one of the films was a group of four children stuck in cages as they receive a meal and these kids appear to be there against their will and the fact that they're locked in cages implies that they were clearly mistreated but what for I mean what experiments would entail kids being locked up in cages like where is this whole thing reading us now another film was later analyzed and again some stills were posted from it and this is kind of the point in our story where John begins to develop somewhat of a

theory John writes above are three frames from the second of the three movie reels it shows children listening to what I believe to be high frequency sounds perhaps these sounds were used to stimulate programmed responses or used in conditioning as shown these clips only show the controllers hands and never their face the children all have a slightly apprehensive look on their face if they never look upset I feel this work was done on the children's own level perhaps as part of a game once the children's trust was built the cornerstone of the conditioning process was

in place okay so again I have questions why were these children listening to high-frequency sounds and also what programmed responses would they be trying to stimulate plus the fact that John had just kind of jumped to these conclusions means the man is either crazy or maybe he knows more than he's saying and it turns out I think both were kind of true John's next post laid out his theory in full detail and as crazy as it sounds it actually might be somewhat realistic the post read project artichoke was a CIA project that researched interrogation methods

and arose from Project Bluebird in 1951 the project studied hypnosis among other methods to produce amnesia and subjects project artichoke was an offensive program of mind-control that gathered together the intelligence divisions of the Army Navy Air Force and FBI I believe the ILP Indian Lake project was a part of project artichoke the scope of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature such as self preservation project

artichoke was renamed MKULTRA in 1953 and was first brought to wide public attention by the US Congress in the form of the Church Committee and a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission CIA documents suggest that the agency considered and explored uses of radiation for the purpose of mind-control as part of MKULTRA other early efforts focused on LSD which appeared to have formed the majority of research as time went on experiments included dosing CIA employees military personnel other government agents prostitutes mental patients and members of the general public with LSD to study their reaction usually

without the subjects knowledge when project artichoke became MKULTRA the iops role was reduced and then eliminated there are many declassified documents from the Congressional hearings none however mentioned very young children 12 and younger being used in MKULTRA experiments I think by then the ILP was buried both literally and figuratively so in this post John claims that the ILP may have actually been part of MKULTRA focus on mind-control and specifically the mind-control of children and for those of you who don't know MKULTRA is more than just some crazy conspiracy theory this was a legitimate US government

program that ran from 1953 to 1973 and it was top secret until the Year 1975 throughout these years and throughout these experiments the US government would run tests on unwitting subjects in order to kind of test the effects of mind-control and by the program's end over 150 tests were ran on live human beings some of these tests included psychedelic drugs paralytics and electroshock therapy now as I mentioned before the US government did eventually come clean about these experiments but John believes that the ILP was part of them a part that the government tried to bury

I mean experimenting on unwitting and unwilling adults is horrifying and terrible in so many ways but you do that same thing to children and it kind of takes it up a notch so of course the government wouldn't want people to know that they had done this to little children so after all these early posts we finally had a legitimate theory as to what the contents of these box could have been for but the idea was far from proven and John knew it to support his case John decided to take a trip to the area where

his uncle had found this container all those years ago now while on this trip John actually ended up discovering parts of a structure that used to stand there and whatever these structures may be is really anyone's guess but they have no business being out there in the middle of absolutely nowhere well perhaps these structures were all that remains of the military base that may have once stood there so the ball was really rolling on this case and John's blog was killing it at the time and within just a few weeks it really seemed like John

was inching closer to discovering and proving what had really happened in the ILP but on October 26th 2005 the whole case took a dramatic turn John updated his blog by saying since my last post a lot of things have happened to me which make me believe that posting any more items from the box would not be in my best interest I have had numerous phone calls only to hear silence on the other end as many as 20 times a day my house was broken into and searched but nothing was taken the box and its contents

had been securely hidden outside of my home I did this shortly after the phone calls began it is obvious to me that I hit a nerve when I mentioned the documents I have and that I was considering perhaps posting them at some point I am no longer going to post anything I am done I hope anyone who stumbles onto this site will read it from the beginning and continue to stay interested in this story for those of you who had followed this blog I am sorry but my family and their peace of mind comes first

as disturbing as these photos and documents are the last few days for me and my family have been even more so which is why I am saying goodbye so the fact that John was discussing perhaps one of the most secretive US government programs ever clearly seemed to rub some people the wrong way and it appeared that John was being intimidated to kind of keep his mouth shut and with a story this big about the government honestly it makes sense that John would have a target on his back but who these people actually were and how

far they were willing to take their harassment was still unclear but John was obviously fearing for him and his family safety so honestly that's respectable and it makes sense why he would stop post and so with that all updates stopped for many months and it appeared that the ILP investigation was just kind of dead in the water but John wasn't quite finished yet eight months later he returned to his blog and stated that he had recently gotten a divorce and now he could again fully focus his attention on the case and that's because he no

longer had to worry about his wife's safety so tough scenes for John if I'm gonna be honest here I mean he took an L in his relationship but he was back to posting about this incredibly interesting case which is really good for us is that selfish and John's commitment to the case appeared to be at an all-time high I as he even mentioned that he had moved to New York State to be closer to Indian Lake now for here John's blog began to get stranger and stranger John's post became more and more random and they

slowly started to make less and less sense like I'm not even gonna bother sharing a lot of what John had posted after this cuz the man's was really on one but through all this madness John was actually able to post some key pieces to the story this strange and disturbing picture was posted with the caption this is not part of the metal box content I have in my possession however I wanted to share with you a picture that I found on the web I don't know the origin of this picture but the date indicated with

the picture is 1961 the typed paper on the center of the photo reads unidentified white female between the age 8 and 10 years old subject underwent six months of treatment using heavy doses of LSD electroshock and sensory deprivation experiments under codename MKULTRA about early 60s subjects memory was erased and her brain is that of a newborn baby this is one of the few connections between MKULTRA and children that I have found other than what I have the MKULTRA experiments are usually associated with adults but there seems to be other confirmations to what my uncle discovered

in the metal box near Indian Lake so this photo seems to suggest that children were actually experimented on as part of MKULTRA meaning that the ILP theory could actually be true I mean it certainly doesn't prove his theory but it also doesn't hurt it nonetheless well what I find most disturbing about this photo and the caption along with it is the fact that it shows the horrific nature of what these experiments could have really been like I mean they fried this poor girl's brain until she was basically brain dead and if the I up he

was truly a thing then you know this stuff was happening all the time there I mean that's really messed up and really disturbing in so many ways obviously now after this John posted stills from the final film roles that he had in his possession one of the films I have shows several interior and exterior clips of the military base that was home to the Indian Lake project in these few still frames you can see that the base was equipped with the means to house several children I also have pictures of a bed see October 7th

2005 not a cot as shown in the film perhaps suggesting that there could have been different areas to deal with the different stages of the child's life inside the base and this was the last that John had mentioned the film's he had which is a little bit upsetting that he was never actually able to post them or supposedly even view them in the first place and I think if you were actually able to have posted these films then it would have been huge for the case but John did end up posting a video on his

blog just not of any of the films the video was taken in the woods near Indian Lake by John himself and shows a broken-down Shack of some sort that he believes to have been part of the ILP now many people view this video as a huge revelation for the case because it proved that people were in fact in the woods in this remote area and the fact that it's a structure could prove that people were actually living there but this video ended up being nothing compared to what John would post next the post reads as

follows if any of you are fans of the show lost this should look eerily familiar while I was in the woods back in November I found an underground complex it is what I believe to be the heart of the Indian Lake project base this was probably where the children were house and the MK ULTRA type of experiments were conducted I had been holding off posting this picture for a while because I wanted the chance to fully explore the structure before anyone sealed it shut I have explored it a total of four times and have drawn

a map to the best of my abilities of the interior rooms halls etc this is not the main entrance into the complex but it was the first and only other one that I had found I will post the map and the interior pictures in the future but I just wanted all of you to know that there have been some very interesting developments and give you a little taste of what I've been really up to I'm sorry I did not share this sooner there have been several times that I have been afraid since my uncle gave

me the metal box but going down those stairs with only a flashlight was without a doubt the scariest thing that I had ever done now John claims to have found this entrance with a metal detector and he fully believes that this underground base is where all these experiments were conducted this was obviously a huge revelation for the case but from here things really started to go downhill it was clear that John was becoming very paranoid with all this work that he had been doing and honestly rightfully so but all this paranoia finally seemed to have

made John start to unravel he claimed that a van was following his every movement and that hunters had followed him into the woods with guns despite the fact that it wasn't even hunting season he even posted a photo of a helicopter at one point and claimed that it was spying on him now during this time of paranoia John also posted this photo from the woods and honestly this is just random to begin with and it doesn't really prove or help his case in any way but worst of all it was later discovered that this is

a stock photo meaning that John himself didn't take it and that he had lied about taking it himself he also posted a photo of a dead bird that he had found outside his house and he said either a bird died in front of my house or someone put it there for intimidation but I mean it's just a dead bird like not the prettiest sight but I mean come on dude that is just nature and to make matters worse this photo of the dead bird was apparently also a stock photo it seemed that either John had

gotten lazy with his lies up until this point or he had just kind of lost his mind and after multiple updates and paranoid postings five years had gone by without any forward movement to this case for whatever reason John's postings had become extremely infrequent and his post really didn't push the case forward any more and in February of 2003 John posted his final messages to the blog one read thank you for your interest concerns and kind words of support over the past several years and the other read would begin posting updates to the new Indian

Lake project Twitter account soon please follow at Indian Lake project to stay connected to the latest information those updates never came only one tweet was ever posted in the blog was never updated now if you were to believe John's story about his home invasion his chilling phone calls and the fact that he was followed then you might believe that something sinister may have happened to John perhaps he was on the verge of revealing some huge information about the case and he was silenced before he could do it I mean you had a man who is

that obsessed with this case and he just randomly stops posting for no apparent reason I mean do you really think he could have just walked away from his work I don't know it just seems so strange to me that a man so obsessed could just stop so for those reasons if John's story was actually true then I believe maybe he was intimidated to stop posting or maybe he was even taken out it's such a terrifying thought but again it all hinges on the idea of whether or not this was real or not because at the

end of the day this all could have just been a hoax or a story and maybe John just ran out of materials and quite honestly I have my suspicions like for starters let's talk about the original story it seems incredibly unlikely that someone would just happen to stumble on a half-buried box in the middle of absolutely nowhere not near any marked trails whatsoever like the chances of him actually stumbling over this box they gotta be one in a billion plus if he was really just hiking then why was he so far off any other trail

why would you do that if you're alone - like first of all buddy system my god I've become my mother and also if the information in this box was so top-secret and so important and so damning to the United States government why wasn't it just burned I mean think about how easily they could have just burned all this information and it would have been done with and they never would have had to worry about it and the structures that john found in the woods are sketchy - because first of all no one else has been

able to find them and also if this really was a top-secret government program they would have destroyed the entire structure they would have left no trace for it certain like why would they even risk it like I get it isolated area but why would they run the risk of anyone finding that out like it just doesn't really make sense and also why wouldn't they have sealed that damn bunker up I mean potentially that was the most damning part of all of this they could have just welded the thing shut and they would have been fine

or maybe buried it a little more it just doesn't really make sense like the government would not just risk this stuff by just leaving it out you know and if they did [ __ ] man that's assuming that is not great work on their part and I'll be honest I look at some of these pictures and they don't necessarily look real like it's almost like these ones have sort of a filter over them or something I don't know they just look a little off to me but then again I'm no expert and not to mention

they all have differences in their wear and tear I mean if they were all locked in the same box for all these years and they all received water damage like he said then wouldn't there be more consistency between the damage that they received I mean at least that's what I would assume but clearly there are differences between most of the photos and then there's the fact that John used stock photos in his blog posts and that he had tried to pass them off as his own I mean are you guys kind of seeing the red

flags here and that also includes the fact that none of the documents or films were ever posted on his blog like I get why he had some reason to keep those a secret but the fact that he never showed us them really doesn't help his case at all so do all these red flags really disprove the Indian Lake Project theory well ultimately that's left for you to decide for yourself I mean personally I'm skeptical about the situation but I'm still intrigued I mean up until this point there's been no evidence that completely proves the theory

or completely disproves the theory so for that reason I'm kind of keeping an open mind about it now there's been a few more bits of terrifying information that I had to include somewhere in here so I'm just gonna kind of throw them at the end and they might actually help the case for the Indian Lake Project a key piece of evidence that I discovered afterwards was the fact that in the general area that the Indian Lake project would have been was an orphanage so perhaps this is where this base was getting all these children from

and maybe that's why they never got caught because they didn't have to kidnap them or steal them from somewhere they had a steady supply of them right at this orphanage which that adds a whole nother dark layer to an already dark situation but it does kind of tie things together if this project was actually real now this last bit of information may be unrelated but it's one of those things that I got to talk about in the span of about two years in John's investigation three separate people had gone into the woods near Indian Lake

and they all disappeared and these people literally vanished without a trace and it got to the point that local officials were starting to call the area the Indian Lake triangle and as far as I'm concerned the three men were never found now this definitely adds to the creepiness of the area and it might point to the fact that maybe these three men discovered something out in the woods that they weren't supposed to see maybe something related to the Indian Lake project and this honestly just makes me realize how much danger John might have been in

when he was out there in the woods at the end of the day whether John was telling the truth or not he still told an incredible story and honestly this urban legend is one that I will probably never forget maybe someday John will post again and finish his research into the case that once consumed his life or perhaps he's already satisfied with the story he's told either way I hope the man's are still alive because I'm starting to get a little worried know hashtag rip John in the chat of the time you