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Today we're going to talk about the best Galactic Legend counters in the game. We're doing the another offmeta list report, whatever. It's been about a year and a half since I made the last one.
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Let's mount the algorithm, shall we? It's there's no place like the off meta to to mount the algorithm. I'll I'll tell you that.
Um, so let's let's get into it here, folks. So, what is what do I mean by offmeta? People argue about this.
It's it's a a pure pure joy. Uh, so to me, for the purposes of this video at least, what I mean when I say offmeta is uh that we're using teams that aren't the meta teams. They're not like the main teams.
They like the most powerful teams, but still beat the most powerful teams, the meta teams. And I define meta as basically in this game just the Galactic Legends. I I realize that there are other really powerful characters out there, but by definition, Galactic Legends are overpowered in this game.
They're they're the most powerful characters and they make the most powerful teams in this game. Therefore, they are the meta. They are the main thing that's being used.
And so, they're the meta. That That's how I refer to it. And so, if you use things that aren't Galactic Legends to beat Galactic Legends, that's the offmeta.
We're using something weaker to beat something stronger. [snorts] And I know that there tons of people argue. They're like, "Oh, but but the off meta has become the meta cuz everyone uses like no, I I'm just going by pure power and the description of uh they're g they're a galactic legend.
They're more powerful than any other character in the game. " And you have to you have to have some some level of like the the definition becomes way too blurry if if you decide to be like well sure we'll we'll include this team as well. Like Galactic Legends have was with have stood the test of time.
They're they're the ones that are the off meta or that are the meta and that's how what we're talking about in this video. So why do you want to use the off meta instead of just using your own Galactic Legends? People ask me this all the time, like, well, that's it's not really meta.
Uh, or it's not really like necessary. You can just use your own Galactic Legends. And sure, I I mean, you can.
That that is certainly an option. I I first off, I mean, it is really fun. There's a lot of good reasons for it, though.
First off, I I guess we should also uh just get this out of the way. This is for Galact or This is for Grand Arena. Galactic Grand Arena.
Um, this isn't for a a different game mode. This isn't for like territory wars. None of these numbers are that I that I've collected are for that that are for territory wars.
It's purely GAC. And so it's it is a lot of fun. It does take more skill.
You you need to know what you're doing. You need to know your kits pretty well. Uh, but if you want to play GAC at a high level and be able to play to the point where you beat opponents that you kind of shouldn't beat that the opponents who do have this approach of just use Galactic Legend to kill Galactic Legend.
If you want to do that, you need off meta teams and you need more options as well. as as the meta shifts around datacrons and everything that this uh approach is something that you kind of just need to know how to navigate. Otherwise, you find yourself in some pretty weird predicaments that I mean, if if you're content with with just uh staying where you're at, uh if you've learned your place and you don't want to expand your knowledge and uh and competency in this game, I suppose you don't have to do this.
I just I I really like to do it. It's a lot of fun. Um so let's um I I I should also just point out folks, this is all all of this information.
All of the numbers that I've crunched, all the data that I've collected have used some data crunch. I've taken off the ones that are the most overpowered though. I've tried to and I've tried to collect a lot of data over the course of several seasons, not just the most recent season.
and there you just can't avoid the data crrons are going to impact things. Okay, so anyways, let's let's go into all right standard counters. So there's three different like kind of well I don't know if great mothers really count is really almost se Malacos counts more as as a standard counter but um I am going to put them in the little corner up to the right uh for most of these uh because Inquisition do typically and this includes Reva and uh Grand Inquisitor they typically do counter a lot of Galactic Legends it's kind of just the assumption that they're going to counter a lot of them um Darth Bane also usually has some kind of punchers chance against most Galactic Legends, not all of them.
And then Great Mothers have proven themselves to be pretty strong. They kind of almost don't deserve a spot up there, but we're trying at this time. I don't really know if this is uh going to be a permanent fixture for them.
Um or for Inquisition for that matter. They're they're less and less relevant as more count or more Galactic Legends are released. So, first off, um Jedi Master Luke.
This is in no no particular order, though. we're going to get rid of the get out and get rid of the the weakest Galactic Legends uh first. So, at least that are that are on defense, Jedi Master Luke.
I know a lot of people be like, "Well, why are you why are you wasting your time on this slide? Uh Jedi Master Luke is not a good Galactic Legend on defense. " And I tend to agree actually.
Um though, you're going to see Jedi Master Luke on defense a lot in the early game. That that's just how it works. um early game he's still going to be there and early game probably needs this guide more than any other group actually.
Um but yeah, great mothers beat this. The Inquisition beat this at a really high rate. Bane uh works really well here.
You can also This is one This is the only one you can use Treya on. Actually, Treya doesn't counter any Galactic Legends other than Jedi Master Luke. Uh even Grievous.
This is why I used to love Grievous so much. used to counter this team and now I mean he still does you just don't ever see this team. Um so if you want N on the team, if you use N instead of Stap then uh N new is actually a higher win rate but Stap is still a decent 70%.
Seir Malacos is um I mean this is a pretty high win rate as well. Um even Monothma beats this. you really kind of do need Luan though actually as I remember it I think that you still had an like some level of win rate if you didn't before Luan came out that still existed.
Um I this my my favorite counter to this is of course Dash. He he does a lot of really fun stuff. Um you really do want L3 here so she can passively get rid of uh she can dispel all of your ability blocks from Jedi Master Luke.
Um, and then even like Stariller teams work. The thing that's scary about Stariller is if you're ability blocked for too long. If too many people get ability blocked with his initial AoE, with Jedi Master Luke's initial AoE, um, it can it can be some serious issues cuz you can't get the turn meter started nearly as well without applying shock with your AOE's and getting tenacity down with more of Jade, etc.
Still works, but uh, you got to be careful about that. So, tons of ways. There's a ton of other teams that beat this.
Like, typically, you don't want to put this on defense, but in uh early, even in Midame, you're going to see Jedi Master Luke sometimes. Um, and you just you need something something. So, this is something that I I still see this and hear this a lot, guys.
People are like, "Oh, man, Wampa beats Sith Eternal Emperor all the time. " Wait a minute. A year and a half ago and even like a year before that, people still said Wampa beats Silly Eternal Emperor all the time.
Early game kind of kind of true. It before he has good Sith to go with them, but even across all battles. Uh so I ran it across all of the different uh counters for the LA or like in encounters that people have tried it 5,000 times over the past several seasons.
Wampa beats the Eternal Emperor at a 34% win rate even and that's that's in all the different mode or all the different leagues. Womba does not do well against Backpack Emperor. So people tell me that I have to do this.
Um when people say that you really have to do this, just tell them no, I don't think I will. >> [snorts] >> Now, um, as far as be the best versions of of the emperor on defense, typically you want him as the lead that you could put Treya as lead. Actually, that that is an acceptable option, but you have to if you want to put him on defense, and this is a series that I I've been considering doing, like what what are the best versions of each team to place on defense, though, that's typically like my uh my best offense and defensive teams video that I put out.
Um, anyways, for him, you you typically just have to give him like a full team. If you're going to put him on defense, you can't just put a bunch of just like bad Sith. Otherwise, Wampao will beat you.
You either need like the Treya team or the Malgus team to back him. And that that cuts away a ton of different ways to be able to counter him. Uh there still are ways to beat him, but uh Malgus especially betraya also works like they'll both cut back on a lot of the teams that people will use to beat him.
So in terms of the best team, I ran all the numbers based on uh if you put the Darth Malgus team on defense if you're facing that. Uh so Bane and Dooku still beat this at a crazy high level. Bane just destroys it basically.
Um, Reva, uh, if you don't have a good Inquisition Datacron, then, uh, Reva teams can win, but this this is this is where they kind of like they really struggle against things that can put them in fear passively, which the Malgus and Malik combo really does that super well. Darth Revan, if he's still around, which it's tough to get rid of him cuz there's two tanks and uh, he's he's tough. You can't assist against him, etc.
he could put the whole team because your whole team is uh uh is tanks. He could put the whole team in fear and you could just get destroyed. So uh Inquisition probably not the very best counter though it it works really well against like the weak silly eternal uh teams.
And then um so I know that Sith Eternal is a Galactic Legend, but if you use uh so grey mothers don't work here at all. Um if if you want to use if you had s the eternal emperor yourself with watt then uh the win rate is 96%. So it's a great use of uh you only need you only need one character to beat that this uh this team plus you know the Malgus team is is like a separate team.
So, um, AFA, this is one of the very few teams that she does okay in. Um, I if you have a really strong Dr Afra team, then you win at a 75% win rate. Um, all the other Kyber level.
So, all of the data here is co is for the most part on Kyber 1. Like, this is the best players with the best teams countering the best teams. like that that's the most reliable level of data that you can get.
So all all of these counters are based off of Kyber 1 numbers. Um so in 75% win rate with AFA in lower Kyers in um or in the in Kyber 1 in in the lower ones it's it's significantly worse because people don't know how to use Afra teams. They don't they don't know what they're doing.
They just kind of flub. So anyways, I wouldn't get AFA just because she counters S eternal emperor on defense, but she she can do it if if you're 75% is still not like a sure thing either. So um guns, this is one of the best uses of guns uh in the team.
The frog or in the game, the frogs will beat a lot of different versions of Sith Eternal Emperor that a pretty good win rate. Um, we don't have any numbers in fives for how this works, but I think Ma Canada uh just because of she her she gives her whole team 300% extra offense to delete the Sith specifically. Like I think she's going to win.
We don't know for sure how Ma Canada's do going to do against this, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that she's going to do pretty well. And then um Queen Amidala uh she uh she she does typically counter this team as well. Good good deal for Queen Amidala.
So uh Supreme Leader Kylo, this is one that we're not going to spend much time on because we don't have much data. We we not too recently got Pointy Teeth Ray and uh when she was released I I mean she's she's been pretty good. She's good.
uh we don't have much time that she hasn't had a really over-the-top dominant datacron that just completely skews every single possible number. So, uh and we just recently got another good first order datacron. So, it's um we don't really know uh really like Bane Bane can win this.
It it works even better if you uh send in a burner and you're you're sacrificing banners, but you can win that with Darth Bane. Um pretty consistently, somewhat consistently. Uh we just don't have we don't have good data on this.
Uh so far there there's just nothing that leads me to believe that there's a ton that beats this other than Bane and sending in a burner is is nice. There are other things that I mean, you know, that there are there are things you can do, but for the most part, like people used to say guns beat Supreme Leader Kylo, and that was true, but I don't I just don't know how true it is with uh Pointed Teeth Ray, at least when they don't have a really crazy good data crunch. So, uh anyways, let's let's move on.
Ry Rey has been around forever and um she she has diff I mean she's really tough to get amazing data onto because there's so many datacrons that work with her because she's just like the she's like the the light side team that that everyone can join. It's like Jedi can join her. Does she do anything for Jedi?
Well, sure. She does things for everyone on the light side. So, uh, the best version of her team without some kind of datacron mandate is, um, Ray with Ben and then General's General Kenobi, uh, Baby Kell and Baris.
That's that's like the best version. Bane still beats it at like a 70% win rate as crazy it is as it is. Um, Inquisition can work here.
Uh, they can win at a decent rate. It's not. It It can get really dicey.
Like if she can get a whirlwind and kill Reva in one hit, then then uh that sucks, man. Sucks to be you. Or if you your grand inquisitor dies from one of her uh one of her big uh ultimates that it's not that great.
Um great mothers can win this sometimes. Um they don't do they'll kill a couple ads at the very least that I' i've seen them be able to win. You have to make you have to make Morgan really tanky, though.
Um, so the uh Balin can can win this um at a decent rate if you're facing just like a generic ray without some kind of really good datacron. Um, Balin really does have quite like his whole kit in G in GAC specifically with his Omacrons can actually take down Ry um if she doesn't have some kind of overpowered datacron. uh the Finnf Finenzori team if like if people don't if you know what you're doing then you'll win.
It's a pretty low win rate unless you know what you're doing and then it's a decent win rate. Um Sir Malacos actually wins this at a pretty high rate. Now remember this is the team without Ezra.
If Ezra is on this team, all of these win rates that it actually still applies for most of these teams. Ezra doesn't completely shut down like most of these counters. However, he does reduce their win rate by like 10 to 20%.
A lot of time I'm just going to assume that Ezra is with Galactic Legend Ahsoka for this video, but he does make the raid team significantly stronger, but the same thing still counter her. It It's just a worse percentage almost across the board. So, just something to keep in mind.
Um, so, and a lot of times you're going to be more incentivized to just use a Galactic Legend, frankly. Um, so Seir Malacos wins this. Uh, Seir Malacos with Stariller has only a slightly higher win rate if you add Stariller.
However, if they do have Ezra on the team, Stariller then boosts the win rate of Sir Malacose by like 20%. It keeps it keeps the win rate significantly higher. Um, EP Stariller actually wins at around 70% still.
Uh, even against this specific comp. Um, General Skywalker actually still wins this about half the time. If if you know what you're doing, you could probably make it a little bit higher.
Um, that's about the only use General Skywalker has in the whole game these days. Um, all right. So, we have Lord Lord Vader and he he doesn't have people people are like, "Dude, he sucks still.
Like, everything beats him. " But without the rolocron, the current cron that's making Bokeaton be able to beat this all the time. Like she's only she's only around 51% if you don't have a really good data cron.
Um, so she's not like this consistent amazing counter. She she'll work. It just uh that doesn't always work.
It's not not the nearly the the amazing win rate people kind of represent. uh 58% win rate with uh the Seir Malacos Stariller team and uh it's significantly lower without that comp. Somehow Ninth Sister makes that team way stronger against Lord Vader.
I don't really know why, frankly. Um and then Moskanada also we assume she's going to destroy Lord Vader, but we don't have any conclusive evidence to point to that. Uh cuz she's so new, but I I think she beats him.
I I would like to see though that that's not 100%. Um Bane and uh Dooku can beat this sometimes. Bane with what whatever character um can beat this sometimes.
Uh the Reva Inquisition don't work. So really Inquisition aren't good. They don't probably don't belong in this list either.
Um but yeah, Lord Vader doesn't have a ton of offmeta counters, guys. Like Bokeaton is probably your best bet or Sir Malacos is is pretty great, but Stariller um is pretty necessary there. Uh okay, so Jedi Master Kenobi.
I I was I went into this assuming that he has a ton more uh counters cuz it used to be all right. We have to twoot this. We have to you could use catay, which is something we could do.
I I didn't add that to this list because it's so so weird and niche at this point, but cat can work um if you know what you're doing against a very specific comp. Um but Bokeaton can work uh somewhat consistently. You you need a good Bogaton though.
Uh 50% win rate. Um I've never lost it, but apparently she she can lose this. Balen does just destroy this team.
You don't necessarily need the Bad Batch characters to go with him. Um that's the best version of the team, but it's over 90%. So Balin is a good win rate.
Great mothers win this at like 50% win rate, which kind of surprised me. You'd have to put the blessing onto Marin or Morgan, I think, just so she doesn't get one shot by Cat right away. Um, which I I I don't know.
That might be that that probably works. I I would like to see it. I haven't seen it, but apparently by the numbers, grandmother's actually win this about half the time.
Bane doesn't really work here ever. Um, and Inquisition, this is one of the ones that this is one of the reasons we used to love Inquisition a lot cuz Inquisition could kill a lot of stuff. Um, and this was the best team defensive team on the in the game.
Inquisition win this at a 77% win rate if you know what you're doing. Um, interestingly enough, the numbers point at uh, Second Sister being better than Eighth Brother. the the the numbers uh the sample size is pretty big and second sister apparently is at 90% win rate against this uh as opposed to eighth brother with a 77% win rate.
So uh Inquisition kind of your choice. I I want to see how second sister impacts that. Um Jabba he's got a few different things.
So you can use Bane uh to kill Jaba sometimes h half the time. Um, Reva and Inquisition actually beat this at at a really high win rate usually, assuming all datacrons are equal. The um, even great mothers actually win this.
We like even other nice visitors win this at like a 40% win rate if you're desperate. Um, Stariller can win. Your win rate's going to go way up if your star killer actually has a bunch of protection instead of health.
And health is usually how you want to mod him. But if you give him a lot of protection, then the thermals don't automatically cook him instantly. Uh I I was kind of surprised to see that um to see the Queen Amidala actually just destroys this team.
Uh kind of unfortunate. She's she's at an 85% win rate. Um if you have a good datacron, you can win this even with like Monothma and Luther.
And of course, you start off pretty slow. So if you get destroyed early on, then it's not great. Um, this is one of the only reasons AFA is good these days, though.
She's going to get a new tank character that should presumably boost her win rates against a lot of things. We'll have to see what the kit looks like and everything, but uh you really need right now you need B2 to get there so that you can um you can get debuffs on people. You can um that there's a lot of really good things that B2 does for this team.
Of course, that ruins your Grievous squad, but who uses grievous these days? And then um uh the frogs guns can actually beat this team sometimes as well. Um 70% win rate isn't terrible.
It's not super consistent, but it's not the worst ever. Um all right, so Leia is usually not on defense, but when you see her, yeah, you can uh you can use Balin sometimes. I I was the the numbers were so weirdly inconsistent.
Uh we just haven't seen we don't have that huge of a sample size of that still surprisingly. He's been out for a year. Still don't people still they just don't try it too often.
Um part of it's cuz just no one wants to have Balin and then why would they use him on Leia when they can use him on something else that's awesome. Um Sir Malacos it doesn't really work that well actually there's not a ton of things that win against Leia surprising. like she's been a a really strong um she's been a really strong team on defense surprisingly.
Uh and the bet the team that wins the most at the at the highest level is actually with Baze and Old Ben. That's that's like the one that that beats all the old off meta stuff like like Bane works sometimes. Uh 75 or 70% or so.
Uh the tanky Sith people used to say that if you take uh the the Sith Empire trooper with Bane, it's going to be better. Uh, apparently not though. The numbers don't really um don't really show that.
And uh the Inquisition can work because if R2-D2 is on there and then they're going to have a lot of passive cleanses and then she's going to give them death mark and you can kill them. Of course, she also does enough damage and there's enough AoE's and there's enough people who ignore taunt on the team. while the whole team ignores taunt that uh well she does her log roll that she uh that they kill if they kill Grand Inquisitor which he's like one of their favorite targets that the fight gets a lot tougher.
So um the Leia team or the Reva team can win this. They have a lot of interesting uh bonuses to it. It it's it's not it's not like super consistent though.
Sir Malikos can win. Um Stariller does add like 20% to the win rate. So, Star Killer on that team is is pretty nice.
Grandmothers actually have a decent win rate as well. Somewhere between 75 and 80%. I don't know why I relegated him to the bottom there this time.
Um, and then Ma I I don't know. I I would like to see how Ma Canada looks against Leia. We We just don't know.
This is something I would like to explore more. All right. Uh, last couple Galactic Legends here.
So, Galactic Legend Ahsoka. Not a ton of counters uh so far. I mean, but but the ones that are there are like kind of hurt, honestly.
Um, so great mothers beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat beat her at a decent rate. Like you can almost always win if you have really fast great mothers with Morgan if you know what you're doing. If you like you guys can watch my counter videos to see exactly how to do it.
But you can be you can beat her with assuming she doesn't have a way to get Hera to do if Hera does her uh fracture right away. there's a way to make Hera do that then or Ezra gets first turn or something like it. It can it can really shift things quite a bit.
So, um anyways, Hera is pretty nice there. Uh if she's really fast otherwise, great mothers beat this and then a Finn Zory team also assuming you can get your uh your Finn or Zory to go first or second, I guess. like you can't go faster than Ahsoka, but otherwise uh as long as they can go second, then you can you can beat that team, albeit for bad banners.
And then Sir Malacos don't have really high win rates, but um it can work. Bainly doesn't really work here if you use the eternal emperor uh with Bane. Uh you you have like a 50% win rate and then um yeah, Inquisition don't work.
And then Hondo. Yay for Hondo. He's new.
Uh we don't really know much about him in 5v5. We do have a little data. He was out for one week last season um in 5v5 and he had he had a pretty good datacron.
So we don't know everything. Um the most promising things so far though by far I I thought it was really interesting. So Bane actually wins this is 63%.
That's not great but he can win. It's a little bit higher if you use the Eternal Emperor lead. Um the there's the Inquisition just aren't really that good against him.
uh 27% win rate even when they have a really great datacron. Um great mothers actually win this at a like really low win rate, but they still do like they kill they'll kill some ads. Um Sealos [clears throat] is is surprisingly it's over 80% win rate which is uh pretty crazy.
One of the nice things it does is negate the auto revive function that Hondo has. And so if they kill someone Mal and Malacos is there, there's just no revives, which which is really nice. Um, and then the Finn Zory team, it it's actually it's got like a 30 something% win rate right now, but it can do pretty well.
Um, if if it can get its feet under it if you if if uh the Hondo team isn't just totally uh destroying them with, you know, taking tons of turns and stuff. if you can actually get your turn meter going. Um there's not a lot of response that Hondo can do.
Like you can kind of just run the table with all of your turn meter shenanigans. So um it's interesting. I I I want to explore that one more.
Yeah, we're still he's still kind of an enigma. I do think it looks like Seir Malacos with Stariller is probably going to be your best bet though for off meta. Um so uh and that's basically it guys.
Uh, keep your eye out for other seasonal videos, uh, counter guides as I, uh, put them out that I thought it was funny to just keep the slides from last time. Um, all the stuff from 2024. Uh, still I'm still putting out those videos every uh, every month, every two months, whatever.
Uh, talking about data cross, take talking about counters and best offense and defensive teams. So, um, that's it guys. I'm going to let you go.
Thank you all so much for watching and remember that in all things, Zerith prevails. Take care, folks.
