is the jonco underground podcast number 75 sitting here with Echo Charles so here's something I sent out on the social media platform sure Twitter you heard of Twitter sure no that's right you got hacked sure Elon Musk right that's Twitter yeah yeah here's what I sent out Twitter Twitter isn't good for everyone if it makes you angry or frustrated you shouldn't spend time on it if it allows you to see other people's perspectives so you can understand the world better or you can share some information with other people that that other people might not have
that's good enjoy no big deal now there's a little bit of something a little bit antithetical about me saying that because if you've got something that's bothering you shouldn't you confront it you know what I'm saying it's kind of stretch maybe it's a stretch to say that but there's a reason why I said it because look there's a person there's a personality type anxiety gets to them you ever have anxiety no some people they get anxiety hits them yeah it's a problem there's such a thing as an anxiety attack yeah where people have to like
stop what they're doing right yeah well I hear it's like a heart attack like they think they're dying anxiety attack so that's a person that can have that going on yeah um there's personalities that can get angry over things that they shouldn't get angry about that's who I'm talking about right now right different personalities now there's benefits to social media for sure for sure there's benefits you can like I said you can hear other people's perspectives you can learn about things you can link to a good article that you could get some good information from
you can see other people's perspectives like there's some we've gotten connected to a lot of really cool people that have come on the podcast that connected through the social media and I would say primarily Twitter most of the time all those things are good but let's face it hey look we know if you're in the algae here the algorithm is grabbing you and you're just wasting time on it we know that's bad but if you're getting angry that's not good and you shouldn't spend time on it now here's where you know people are talking about
Detachment yeah I talk about Detachment obviously yeah and then people say how do you do it and I explain how to do it and then how can you practice it you if if Twitter or social media makes you mad you could legitimately use it to practice Detachment you legitimately use it to practice detachment so go on your social media if you're so inclined you want to practice some Detachment go on there and go and look at some people that you totally and vehemently disagree with um and read what they wrote and watch the video that
they posted and then be like okay how's this like it's kind of a good environment to do it in because you're by yourself you can you can actually monitor your emotions right you're going You're like you're not confronting anyone yeah it's not real but have you ever read something on social media that made you get a little bit mad I feel like yeah I feel like I have I can't remember anything it's articulate but if it's about me yeah about a derogatory comment on a YouTube channel on a YouTube video about you no not that
made me mad never I don't know probably but I can't remember anything specific no what about some political belief that someone threw out there knewer you get dissed get mad I got and yeah like man not mad for me come on mad but I got like annoyed there's a guy that says stuff in the way he says it is super smarmy kind of like you're so dumb for not believing this you know like that's the attitude and that's super annoying for sure okay so you're probably in a pretty good place actually I think I feel
like you don't need to practice your Detachment you're pretty emotionally detached and I can all spun up this is an opportunity for people that might get spun up and I'm gonna tell you if you're the type of person that gets spun up on social media you're probably getting spun up while driving you're probably getting spun up while your wife is talking to you you're probably getting spun off by your kids you're probably getting spun up by uh somebody in the grocery store you see what I'm saying yeah am I wrong I don't think you're wrong
now so I'm saying you could legitimately go you're in a detached position a little bit because you're just looking at your phone right yeah if you can't detach while you're looking at your phone it's a good place to practice and look at something that really makes you mad and say oh that's an interesting perspective they have yeah that's that's interesting yeah and then read another one and say oh I'm glad I understand them better now and if you can't that you can you can if you can make progress over time it's going to be helpful
for you now listen if it just makes you mad don't do it if you're getting so mad first of all you should reflect on that if you're getting mad at a bot that's my immediate thought anybody that's saying something that's really bothersome I'm thinking that's a bot right it's not even a human being it's a programmed AI yeah yeah you say that a lot but I don't know a bot yeah I don't know anything about bots so the only bots I know are the ones hacking my account and doing doing like everyone else Echo Charles
got hacked they took his Twitter and you did some dumb honestly I don't know I'm trying to be just disrespectful with this it's a lot it was a lapse of judgment you did some dumb you like clicked out of Twitter and then it said to get back to Twitter enter your password I mean that's ignorant right yeah yeah big time so don't do anything dumb if you do like Echo did then well Echo lost everybody on he lost all his followers yep that was bad but he's back now Echo Charles at Echo Charles so listen
all I'm saying is people ask for a place to try to detach and if you're getting mad at social media you're probably one of those people that needs to practice it yeah so practice it if it drives you crazy get off of it forget it maybe go on once a month and rehearse and practice Detachment but if you're the type of person that's going full Karen you know what I'm saying yes I do I do know what you're saying and Karen can go in any direction right is that right or is Karen a specific is
Karen uh uh right wing or left wing uh no no no neither right it's just Karen yeah so if you feel like maybe you're a Karen I think I tried I was trying to figure out what the male Karen is called and you know what I figured it out milk here I thought there was like a name I think there might be but I forget what it is my prices have done better research on the subject anyways I think a male Karen is called Karen you're still Karen yeah uh you're you're it's a it's a
non-gender specific yeah I think that's viable because if if I call you a caring you know exactly what I'm saying exactly like you're just an entitled complainer yeah essentially you could be complaining about anything yeah if you think you need to talk about me to the manager true all right so it's legit training just throwing it out there listen please don't let the social media ruin your life don't let it waste your time get positive benefits out of it that's all I'm saying try it there you go that's my statement for today uh so I
had that today where where and you talked me out of it by the way oh you didn't know you talked me out of it but I was listening to your episode with huberman okay and you were on the part where you're talking you know and you say this a lot where the storm cloud right yeah you know just it's kind of it is a detaching basically um but it's it's essentially yes just explain that if you can't detach you can't see what's outside that storm cloud you're just in the storm cloud yeah as soon as
you detach take a step back you can get out of the storm cloud you go oh I see myself in there and I need to walk in this direction I'll be out of it okay cool so yes so and then so I was getting anxiety so yes and doing getting the way I see it there's like different kind people have anxiety like as I think it's called like chronic and anxiety versus like acute anxiety or something like this from what I understand so I don't have that but um so I was doing squats today while
I'm listening to the episode yeah anxiety can come with squats 100 so I don't know if you ever have this but like squats every once in a while I'll have like a nightmare like it's like a Daydream of like all my tendons and like all my tendons and my legs are gonna snap oh I haven't had that night that's horrible yeah it is horrible of course it never happens but like I'll have every once in a while once in a great while so today for I don't even know why it wasn't even that heavy but
it was it like hit me that idea hit me right when you guys are talking about that just like happenstance you didn't cause it or not like that and I'm like and it got to me so bad that I was like I don't think I'm gonna do these squats today like I'm I think I might like get jammed up today real bad I think my Patel attendants are gonna snap on this spot right it wasn't even that heavy so nonetheless and it was the kind whereas you know when you you get anxiety like you start
to like kind of faint a little bit like you feel like kind of faint I was feeling kind of faint I don't know that it hasn't happened to me honestly that's why it's a little bit tough to relate yeah on this I know the feeling of like squats suck I know the feeling of thinking to myself I don't even know if I want to be strong yeah this next set is gonna suck so bad that maybe I just should be weaker but I'm just accepted that's not anxiety though that's like um this is mental weakness
yeah like you got confronted with a mental like confrontation and it kind of got had you on the road that's what it is yeah and that's way easier to get past in my opinion than this this is almost like almost like you ever you ever felt claustrophobia before no you never felt possible before okay not really okay I I will say this when I see someone in a cave diving and they're all G they're all squeezing through a space yeah I think to myself that does not look fun look feeling claustrophobia is similar to the
anxiety oh and my thing I'm literally referencing what happened to me today where it was like I'm on this like weird slippery slope and all I got to do is stop slit just stop just stop moving or stop slippery it's like a real like easy switch not easy but a real simple switch to switch but it's just you got to focus on switching it it's like that kind of a feeling and I was like man I can't switch it I'm like going deeper into this thing like like I might die even I don't know it
was weird and it's so dumb but meanwhile you're talking in in the ear where you're talking about the storm cloud and it's like all you got to do is take one step out of the side of the storm cloud you see what everyone else has seen you're like oh my gosh that's like way like everyone outside the stone clock and be like hey this girl's not worth your downfall right now bro or hey you need to stop drinking bro or hey you need to quit that job or whatever the case may be yeah and to
me it was bruh first off that's not even heavy didn't wait a million times on my way up to like heavyweight it's not heavy and in the history of history of squats I don't think I've ever really injured I injured my back before but I can't even got it ever in squats and I used to get my squad on anyway so that's what I saw after I finally did flip the switch I'm like what am I even doing and then I go and I do it it's like super easy no stiffness no nothing so like
oh what am I even doing but it did get me for a little bit all right so you do get anxiety that was the first time that I got anything that felt like that like I couldn't escape it like it was so unreasonable yourself maybe this is like a legit warning yes yeah oh [ __ ] yeah that was that was part of the whole gig man I was like this is a sign straight spreads growing up these two girls they were Twins and oh there was some situation they were coming on a train or
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