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Ma'am I I can't I don't base my life on 100% proof well maybe that's your problem oh you do you base your life on 100% proof yes oh really that's why I'm skeptical of everything really so that means you take a chemistry kit to the pharmacy and when the pharmacist hands you that bottle of medicine you chemically analyze it to make sure there's no poison in there right why CU unless you have 100% proof you would Never dare take that pill and put it in your mouth cuz maybe the pharmacist put poison in there yes

I don't base it on 100% thank so don't tell me you base your life on 100% proof you don't nine of us do that's not it's not possible you can't Jesus Christ is God Jesus Christ is crucified he dead he rose from the dead well where is he where is he yeah he's in heaven ah now he's dead then become a Christian and you did if your parents would have taught you to be Atheists you'd be an atheist you got to be kidding me didn't you hear what this guy said ma'am his parents made him

go to Catholic school never mind church and you've heard it from his own lips he doesn't believe now although I cannot prove to you that my best friend is not going to stick a knife in my back there's a lot of evidence that my best friend is not going to stick a knife in my back that's why when I see my best friend on Wednesday I'm not going to check her pockets and purse to find out if she got a knife in there that's belief sir did Jesus ever claim to be God yeah you sure

did John 8:58 Jesus says before Abraham was born I am in John 10:30 Jesus says I and the father are one in John 14:9 Jesus says he who has seen me has seen the father clearly Jesus claimed to be God welcome to 1 hour of the best of Cliff Classics where we're diving into some of the most memorable educational Moments and fiery debates get comfy grab your popcorn and enjoy the ride all credit to give me an answer for the clips used let's Jump Right In I have two questions first of all have you ever

considered that religion in general many different religions that are on this planet are basically metaphors that were imposed by the very very early civilization to have some sort of order over the people leaders of very ancient civilizations had no control over these People unless they said listen there is a God or many gods up there that will punish you unless you do the right things yes that's happened I agree and so then how without okay what You' have said so far is that you assume that the Bible is true correct no never once did I

say I assume the Bible's true you know the Bible is true that's what you were saying I said the evidence is the gospels are historically accurate that's what I said what you've basically been Saying is that you are assuming for for the sake of argument you are assuming that the Bible is true no okay well let's just say that for the sake of argument just leave it there all right I'm not out here to just have for the sake of argument ma'am I'll be real blunt with you yes you are no I'm not I am

sharing honestly my thoughts and I trust that you guys are sharing honestly your thoughts and if you don't want to share honestly I don't have time there Too many other people who got their hands up if you want to share honesty with me I'd love to talk with you I would love to please do that please let me talk thank you if you're assuming that the Bible is true then going by anything else listen to me I am listening I can't believe you're contradicting me but go ahead oh my God all right well I don't

do that to you I don't treat you that way you have been no I have not all people I do not Contradict you I see to listen to you and understand what you're saying and then answer you head tohe all right listen I am the evidence that you have said to prove all the different things that you have answered these people's questions with all stem from the Bible and God's teachings through Jesus that is what you've been saying no it is not all right well that's what that's what a lot of people have been getting

out of it I said very Clearly that if you believe God exists because a book tells you to you're a fool I would never believe God exists because a book tells me God exists why do you believe in Jesus Christ Jesus Christ is a different issue Jesus Christ is an historical figure I believe an historical figure because books tell me because books tell you because of an historical figure God is not an historical figure all right well basically what I'm trying to say is that You are not thinking for yourself about all the different issues

instead you are going to a book a man I I totally agree with you Jesus was alive Jesus was a very awesome man I do not believe that he is a Son of God I believe that you should be able to look at things rationally and separately without having to look at the Bible to tell you what the answer is and from what I've been hearing that is like the basis for most of your answers to these People's questions is because God gave us Justice God gave us this God made this God provided this if

God created everything on this planet then why are there things that are just completely like for instance if he created all the plants and all the people and all the animals and he created all that stuff for us to use to get closer to him then was he mistaken to create things like pot and cocaine and heroin was he [Music] mistaken obviously the Bible does not teach that God created every living being for you to snort or digest but he created everything on this planet what I got out of the Old Testament was that he

created the plants and the animals for humans to use and he created all of these things for us to have and to be around and to enjoy to enjoy yes but not to snort or digest but from the Old Testament all These things were put on the planet and they were all good in in the Old Testament it says and God made the plants and they were good okay well then was he mistaken in in creating all of these things that can hurt us like belladon like henbane like all of these horrible plants that if

you even touch them you can die no the first point is the good creation was cursed we read in Genesis 3 when human beings rebelled against God the good creation Was cursed so you do and I do not live in the Garden of Eden we live in a cursed messed up world and the second point is even in the Garden of Eden God did not necessarily create a tree for me to eat the bark or the wood I that's incorrect conclusion but then we were created physically to not be able to deal with the surroundings

we have to go to medicine and to things that were made from Plants such as aspirin we use these drugs and These medicines to make ourselves better to keep ourselves from dying if he made us so faulty that we cannot combat the diseases that are on this planet period Then I I just see that if you are considering that God made us perfect the way he wanted us then why do we have all the problems with health that we do why cannot we eat the leaves off the tree and be sustained okay Genesis 1 andap

chapter 2 teach us that when God initially created us there was no Disease and no death it's a result of human Rebellion against God that the good creation runs a mock Havoc Breaks Loose suffering and death enter the experience of humankind obviously Jesus died on a cross to forgive us and he rose from the dead to give us eternal life in heaven well will be no more disease no more suffering No More Death all right using the word obviously makes me think that you are assuming that everything you Have heard about Jesus and from the

Bible is true that's why I said what I said earlier just so you know has a very incorrect conclusion you just made well you use obious I said obviously the reason that Jesus died on the cross he claimed is to forgive us for our sin and the reason he rose from the dead is to give us eternal life in a heaven where there is no longer going to be the existence of this very real disease and death that you and I have just been Talking about that is not a statement of my view of the

Bible that debate got intense let's jump into the next one there are three philosophical reasons that I don't trust Muhammad first point you will notice that the miracle of Christianity is Jesus Christ and you don't have to speak a particular language to hear about Jesus the Miracle of Islam is not a person the Miracle of Islam is the book the Quran but when you begin to study Islam what you begin to realize is the only way you can truly appreciate the Miracle of Islam is by reading it in Arabic my philosophical problem with that is

why all of a sudden when God reveals himself very wonderfully in an open way in Jesus Does He suddenly say the only way to get my clearest Revelation is by learning [Music] Arabic that prophets were sent to all All the nations in the world to spread the word of Islam says that in the Quran and another thing the Quran is not the word of Muhammad it is the word of God thank you it's the word of God that's right but it was written by Muhammad it was not written by Muhammad who wrote it Muhammad was

a literate he didn't know how to write or read who wrote it it was the word of God it Divine word you see it's every single time they're very consistent I appreciate it All right it is the word of God and they're very passionate about it I respect your passion there's no way you can rationally have a conversation with with that the same way if you ask me why do you believe the Bible is a word of God and I look you in the face and I say because it's a word of God rational discourse

has broken down all right my second philosophical problem with Islam is my Muslim friends inform me Matthew Mark Luke and John are Inaccurate they're perverted gospels in fact it's been changed they will say right exactly so then obviously the next question is well where are the unvert verted ones unfortunately my Muslim friends cannot produce the UNP perverted ones instead what my Muslim friends ask me to believe is that a revelation that Muhammad had 500 years after Jesus which obviously means Muhammad never met Jesus that that book the Quran is a more Accurate presentation of their

historical Jesus than the gospels written by the eyewitnesses well I'm sorry whenever I want to study an historical person I don't go running to a guy who lived 500 years after the fact I want to go to the eyewitnesses I'm not going to trust Martin scori to be my primary source of information about Jesus Martin scori never met Jesus night did C be the mill I'm going to go back to Matthew Mark Luke and John who live in the first century to be my primary source of information about Jesus third point my third philosophical problem

with Islam is my Muslim friends have great respect for Jesus in fact my Muslim friends respect Jesus far more than the typical American does my Muslim friends believe that Jesus was born of a virgin that he ascended to heaven and that he's coming back a second time well that's far more than The typical American believes about Jesus but my Muslim friends say that although Jesus speaks the absolute truth Muhammad also speaks absolute truth and the problem is they contradict each other on certain points you cannot have a be absolute true and then B be absolute

true if a and b contradict each other CU that does nothing then but to allow for C to come along claiming C is absolute truth in Spite of the fact that c contradicts both b and a you cannot have an absolute truth contradicted by another absolute truth did Jesus ever claim to be God yeah you sure did John 8:58 Jesus says before Abraham born I am in John 10:30 Jesus says I and the father are one in John 14:9 Jesus says he who has seen me has seen the father clearly Jesus claimed to be [Music]

God so he was both human and God at the Same time that's what he claimed maybe he was a lunatic but that's what he claimed he wasn't a lunatic he was a prophet well he claimed to be God in human form which means he's more than a prophet he's God in human form but God is something that's Superior to human form so it doesn't make sense for God to be human because he wouldn't necessarily be higher than the other all right first point is God is not something the Bible insists that God is someone a

personal Being and it's totally possible for a personal being who the Creator to Humble himself and become a human being I don't know I read it or I heard it what's if somebody comes to you and tells you God the gods are dead right and you know the word dead dead is gone right that's it right where are we I think it's real simple God is dead friederick nii nii is dead God which one is true ni nii was not God noi said God is dead my response to Friedrich nii is Mei is dead God

the point is God's Not Dead what incredible statement is that for nii to make God is dead yesterday you said the you said the Lord Jesus Christ is God Jesus Christ is crucified is dead he rose from the dead well where is he where is he yeah he's in heaven ah now he's dead then no no no no he's alive I mean you know when you die and you got when you die and you got to have your de I mean you're not in that's my Uh you know that's my philosophy of interpreting your words

I don't know whether I'm there or not that's so how I interpret your words am I correct all right let's go over it step by step he died I you know on a cross he was put in a tomb oh we know that we know the story we know everything I don't think you all do you do I don't think everybody here does yes we know it everybody knows everybody well he was put in a tomb a stone was rolled in front of the Tomb a Roman guard was set to make sure that nobody would

steal his body yes we know all of his disciples dispersed in disillusionment case closed the guy's dead dead there we go 3 days after that no they saw him risen from the dead no that's right I'm following you're right I agree I know that we know that everybody knows that so they saw Jesus over a period of 40 days he appeared at different times in different places risen from the dead then that he Ascended to heaven true so you ask me where is Jesus now well he's not over in Palestine he ascended to Heaven well

my my point you probably didn't get my point do you believe or do we have this great belief that Jesus Christ is returning to our plan he promised to return again that's where I'm getting at yes sir he promised to return again correct so that's where you say he's still alive somewhere like you said in heaven yes that's that's your point yes Sir that's kind of uh the definition of life is little bit uh I don't know fluctuated here back where is life is the there is life like they are trying to find that there

is life all over I don't know okay good point I don't know either what is it so we just believe huh we just have this Bel no based on the historical resurrection of Jesus from the dead yes I am convinced that when Jesus said that there's life after death that he wasn't blowing smoke he was Speaking the truth just for him or for everybody he promised that all of us who put our faith in him would receive eternal life and because of his resurrection from the dead I believe him I went to college and in

college I would sit and learn from professors the reason that I took what those professors said seriously was because the evidence was that they had studied hard they had earned phds they were educated men and women because of that evidence of Reliability I sat in class paid a lot of money to learn from them that's Faith the reason that I trust Jesus when he says there's life after death is not because he has some earned phds rather it's because he was dead and then he rose from the dead that convinces me he's a reliable source

of information about life after death how about the timing now do we have any knowledge about the timing of his return great question I am personally embarrassed by Those churches that take out advertisements in the Wall Street Journal and say October 28th Jesus Christ will return no in Matthew CH 24 Jesus clearly said no one knows the day or hour of my return not the angels in Heaven nor the son but only the father so sir I do not know when Jesus is going to return so uh that means uh it's not that means but

uh it's like unlucky for uh those Believers super Believers like you for example say Uh I'm not saying you know say somebody dies like you know a great believer dies tomorrow yes and then in a year or so Jesus Christ will come back to earth what what's the impact of their belief that those who were dead or do or would they know that their lord uh came back or would they uh do the same thing I mean you see what I'm saying that's a great Point you're making it's the exact point of the people in

the Church of thessalonica the Church of what in Thessalonica what's that that's a city near the Mediterranean over in Asia Minor Paul the Apostle Paul who was a follower of Jesus wrote a letter to this church at thessalonica and part of the letter is dealing with the exact issue you raised these Christians saw their fellow Believers dying and they thought oh no they're dying and Jesus hasn't returned what's going to happen yeah so you're asking the same question they were Asking I think it's great and Paul writes in 1 Thessalonians 4 for the Lord himself

shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the Archangel with a trumpet call of God and the dead in Christ will rise first wow then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and thus we shall always be with the Lord so those Believers in thessalonica had the same question you did and Paul says don't Worry when a Christian dies their body obviously rots but when Jesus returns a second time their body will be raised to life they'll

receive a new body like the resurrection Body of Christ seem like he going to be overpopulated very good point excellent point I mean billions of people that's right I mean how lots of people I mean you know is it going to be what is it great great Point are we imagining or is this a true uh great point is this Imagination or is it no no Jesus wasn't imagine he spoke real clearly all right he points out that heaven is not just God redoing this Earth but Heaven includes the rest of the cosmos so believe

it or not there's a large well you know there's a large Cosmos out there so no the cosmos is not going to be overpopulated there'll be enough resources for everybody that dialogue was excellent the man raised some Legitimate questions and Cliff responded in a way that made his answers clear to everyone now let's move on to the next one God is all powerful and all that he really wants is you know our best interest in the long run he wants us to be happy so why did he give us freedom of choice in the first

place if he knew we could possibly choose not to love God and we'd you know be miserable in the long run and on top of that if he just wants us to be as happy as possible why Do he even put us on Earth and why aren't we all just in heaven right now where wouldd be the happiest we'd ever be great question I do not know why God chose to create us with one brain instead of two when I was in university I used to wish had two brains I don't know why God created

us with two legs instead of four legs I don't know why God chose to create us with a free will instead of little tomons I don't know here's how I think through the Issue because God is a personal God because God is a being who loves he chose to create us with a free will in order that we too might be able to love let's say that you've been dating a young lady for the past 5 months she has communicated to you I love you tonight your father calls you up and says son I've been

paying that young lady $1,000 a week to date you you would be royally bummed out why if love is going to be real it Must be free you cannot coers you cannot manipulate love an old man married a young woman he was very wealthy she did not have a lot of money a few years into their marriage he got concerned about why she loved him so he asked her do you love me because I got a lot of money if I lose my money would you still love me and the woman responded if you lost

your Money I would still love you and I'd also miss you and that's the way a lot of relationships are aren't they and obviously God created us to love him which means he didn't create us as puppets robots programmed computers instead he created us with his free will this innate ability to love or to choose to be apathetic or to hate ultimately why did God do that I do not know in second Peter chapter 3:9 we read the Lord is not slow in keeping his promise as some understand slowness he is patient with you not

wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance it is God's desire for all of us to repent of our sin to put our faith in him and to go to heaven that is God's desire second point I was in a debate at Columbia University in New York City and I was debating an atheistic philosophy Professor a Jewish rabbi and it was Myself then and I thought the debate went well until the last question a woman at the back of the lecture hall raised her hand and said if I understand Mr connley correctly what

he has said is if I reject Jesus Christ I'm going to hell I think that's the most narrow-minded bigoted View I know of I don't even know why we allowed him to speak on this campus The Atheist professor said I have no comment the Jewish rabbi said I agree And the moderator turned to me and said all right Cliff it's your turn I said I've got two basic points to make first of all I have not come to Colombia as a superior moral specimen telling inferior moral specimens how they too can get their act together

rather I have come to columia as a beggar a beggar who has found where living bread is in a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and I've come to tell fellow Beggars where they too can find bread my second Point is this let's imagine for a moment that there is no heaven and there is no hell there is no day of judgment that's not bad if you're an IB league student someone bankrolling one of the finest educations in the world possible incredible career potential to climb the corporate ladder very quickly not bad but what happens if

you live four blocks from here in Harlem what happens if you're born to a mother who's on crack cocaine why don't you look into the F Face face of that person and say what you see is what you get all there is to reality is the here and the now and they're going to look you Ivy league student back in the face and say you know your worldview is just a tad bit elitist not bad for an Ivy league student who can hire High Price Lawyers to defend them in court to get them off the

hook who's got great career potential who has somebody bankrolling one of the finest educations possible in The world not bad for you guys what about for me born on the wrong side of the tracks it condemns me to a pretty shoddy existence how kind it was of Jesus to say there is coming a day of judgment when the wrongs will be made right when the Crooked will be made straight if there is no day of judgment then powerful corrupt people win the day and innocent weak people lose the day Tough luck kids that's the way

the ball bounces that's fate Destiny chance how kind it was of Jesus to say and on Judgment Day there will be a reckoning and Justice shall win and evil and Injustice shall lose yes sir you encourage people to read the four gospels and to decide whether they're a historically accurate record of what happened and you you you have four very nice criteria uh that you say are fulfilled Well I have another criteria when I read a historical document if there is something in there like say a time machine or a flying unicorn then I sort

of doubt it's historical authenticity because I sort of don't know what these things are the gospels they have you know certain Supernatural things that occur in them but the problem isn't things like like water and wine or blind people I mean I've seen those things I know what water Is and what wine is and what sick people are and and what blind people are but the gospels talk about demons and I've never seen a demon I have no conception of what a demon is all right I went to a New England prep school and I

had a philosophy Professor who one day stood up in front of our class and said I hope that you guys are smart enough and intelligent enough to realize there is no devil no demonic Forces 2 months later that philosophy Professor came back to our class and said I have an apology to make 2 months ago I mocked the idea of a supernatural devil today I worship him I went to a seance and at that Seance a medium told me things about my past it took me two weeks to remember had really occurred I go to

churches and synagogues and mosques I don't see any Supernatural power I listen to people speak I hear people sing but I don't see any Supernatural power I go to a seance and I see Supernatural power sir the evidence is there is Supernatural power Cliff has brought up some compelling points in the last few dialogues one that particularly stood out to me is the idea that real love cannot be forced which is why God grants us Free Will and the choice to love him what are your thoughts on this point or your favorite part of the

video so far drop a comment below and let's dive back Into the video become a Christian and you did if your parents would have taught you to be atheist you'd be an atheist you got to be kidding me didn't you hear what this guy said ma' his parents made him go to Catholic school never mind church and you've heard it from his own lips he doesn't believe now and yet you are thinking and saying to me the only reason I'm a Christian cuz I grew up in a Christian home don't you hear what home he

grew up in and he do Believe it it started your foundation fine it was his foundation he reject exit you and I are not simply the result of what Mom and Dad teach us ma'am how many of you guys were taken to church by Mom and Dad and now you could care less about Christ TR come on don't try and use this argument that oh man you want to know why you really believe in Jesus is cu Mom and Dad brainwashed you the guy was made to go to Catholic school for 12 Years he said

he doesn't believe any of it now that's right he's a free autonomous individual he doesn't have to believe in Jesus cuz his mom and dad told him to and I can promise you ma' the environment that I grew up in outside New York City taught me not to believe in Jesus not to believe in God to believe in the stock market and in money I grew up in Fairfield County Connecticut money is God in Fairfield County not Jesus but you're saying that you grew up in a capitalistic Society yeah I grew up in capitalistic Society

pardon hello I'm everywhere in America's like that you're just saying like New York Well ma'am I grew up in a part of the country that's not like Illinois it's not the Midwest it's not the Buckle of a Bible Belt I grew up in an environment that's highly secular I grew up in an environment that taught me reality is the here and the now reality is how much Money you got in a bank that's the bottom line in life I would beg to differ it's that way everywhere but pardon I would beg to differ that it's

that way everywhere I said it's not that way everywhere I would think it is it is I would beg to differ you think it is everywhere all right fine it is everywhere but I can promise you I believe in Jesus Christ because the evidence is he is reliable that's why I believe in Jesus And if the evidence was that he was a first century hypocrite or a first century crook I would not believe in Jesus why do you believe what you believe for a variety of reasons good what do you believe I don't believe in

God he what do you believe in I believe in myself okay what does that mean that believes I am here doing what is good for me but that doesn't mean that I like go around and I'm like a bad person I think I'm better probably than most Christians around because I don't lie I don't cheat I don't steal but I don't believe there's a God because I don't think that God or Jesus would be as mean and viddictive as most religions teach I don't think because you're homosexual you're going to go to hell I don't

think that if you have sex outside of marriage you're a horrible person if you do drugs this and that I think that Christianity is such an exclusive religion that it doesn't I don't think It's right I just don't think that Christianity is supposed to be like everybody will go to heaven if they're good whatever yada yada no cuz that's not what you practice that's not what you preach like Catholicism Catholicism half the time isn't even based on God like you don't need a sermon for for service I mean it's all contrived it's totally contrived all

religion is Contrived okay I'm not standing out here asking you to believe in Catholicism or protestantism I'm standing out here saying look at Jesus Christ examine him he claimed to be more than a man he claimed to be God in human form he lived the type of life that it sounds like you're trying to live so you really sounds like you really agree with Jesus when it comes to a lot of ethics no because I believe in science Jesus believed in Science the Bible gives us the basis for science God has given us rational minds

and by exercising those Minds in a responsible way we can think God's thoughts after him Yan Kepler the father of modern astronomy as he peered out into the stars at night exclaimed oh God I am thinking your thoughts after you I believe in science Galileo was a tremendous science scientist he believed in Christ and in science There's no contradiction between Jesus and science the founders of Harvard College in 1636 wrote quote let every student be plainly taught and earnestly pressed to lay Christ in the bottom as the only foundation of all sound knowledge and learning

not if you're a black well man following Jesus is done more in Africa than in the United States I don't think so oh manam just study the numbers ma'am there are so many more followers of Jesus in sub Sahara Africa than there are in the United States it's scary there are so many more followers of Jesus in South America than there are in the United States it's scary following Christ is not the great white way far more followers of Jesus outside of the West than there are in the United States that's for Sure Jesus was

not an American he wasn't born and wrapped in American flag he was wrapped in swaddling clothes and laid in a Manger he was a Jewish kid Jesus didn't start the Republican party or the Democratic party and he's not for One race he's for the entire world has Jesus been abused used by white people to justify racism yes ma'am but certainly you're open-minded enough not to allow a white Christian racist to turn you off to the true Jesus if you Discredit part of the Bible how can I look at the the gospels and say okay since

there's no other text in history that says that this is absolutely 100% that he died on the cross for our sins how am I supposed to look at it and say oh I'll have faith in this part how the question is an historical one did Jesus really die on a cross and did he really rise from the dead that's an historical question and where is it based in history besides the Bible Josephus the Jewish historian refers very clearly to Christ as being a historical person that he died on a cross and that he has supposedly

risen from the dead supposedly the Gnostic Gospels many other gospels many other writings talk about Jesus the Epistle of Barnabas The Shepherd of hermis and were all these Gospel of Thomas there many different sources that talk about Jesus as a real person that are not in the Bible he claimed that he died on the Cross for our sins that was his claim now why should we trust him because the evidence of the way he treated people with such compassion and integrity the evidence of the content of his ethical teaching the evidence of the way he

died forgiving people at the moment of his most excruciating pain nailed to wooden Cross Beam but most importantly the historical evidence of his resurrection from the dead that's why we should trust trust him when he says I died on the Cross for your sins I mean ma'am I promise you if you die and rise from the dead I'll listen very closely to everything you have to say all right it's it's that simple so if the historical evidence points to Jesus really rising from the dead that's why we better trust him when he says the reason

that I died on the cross was to pay the penalty for your sin that's why I trust him see I don't I understand that there are other texts supporting That Jesus lived but I don't see any I mean I could be wrong but the Jud Jewish text that says that he lived says he supposedly rose from the dead is there any evidence of that yes the evidence is Crystal Clear in Matthew Mark Luke John James Peter ma'am other than the Quran would you please explain to me what Muhammad taught that is intellectually dishonest ma'am but

other than the teachings of Buddha thean would you please tell me what Buddha other than The vadas pad would you please tell me what the Avatar of Hinduism taught ma'am don't you see the basic intellectual dishonesty of your point no I'm saying that Muhammad taught a point he taught philosophy he did not say this grass is green in Matthew Mark and Luke Luke and John they say Jesus died he rose from the dead he died for our sins they are saying it is a fact and that if we do not follow what he says we

are going to we are going to burn in hell that is not A philosophy that is a fact muhamad says that I'm going to hell he has a pH me a little upset you know in the Quran says all right and that's what Muhammad says in the Quran but I for me to say to a Muslim I'm sorry take away the Quran now tell me what Muhammad said I mean that's intellectually dishonest no the Quran is very carefully preserved we find out about from the deadd I want 100% evidence that Jesus raised from the dead

because if you cannot give me that Then that makes the Bible incredible okay let me show you why you're intellectually dishonest give me 100% evidence that your mom is not just fighting you up to drop arsenic in your tea when you go home for Christmas vacation possible you can't 100% prove that cuz I don't live with my mother of course I can't she's not I'm sorry okay if you're not going to see your mother for Christmas obviously she won't be able to drop arsic in your tea but if You happen to see your mom for

Christmas can you give me 100% proof that she's not going to drop arsonic in your tea no all right here's another one give me 100% proof that University of Illinois is going to give you a diploma on your day of graduation give me 100% proof that they didn't after I got it Jesus died 2,000 years AG I don't base my life on 100% Tru I'm sorry he died through if if you're talking about something in the future yes you can't Give me 100% proof but 2,000 years ago I'm pretty sure that by now we would

figure out if he rose from the dead or not ma'am I I can't I don't base my life on 100% proof well maybe that's your problem oh you do you base your life on 100% proof yes oh really that's why I'm skeptical of everything really so that means you take a chemistry kit to the pharmacy and when the pharmacist hands you that bottle of medicine you chemically analyze it to make sure There's no poison in there right CU unless you have 100% proof you would never dare take that pill and put it in your mouth

cuz maybe the pharmacist put poison in there yes I don't base it on 100% thank you so don't tell me you base your life on 100% proof you don't nine of us do that's not it's not possible you can't you can't do that all all right can't do that ma'am I'm sorry that's why I go to the pharmacy And I research it I go to my doctor and I ask what is this person giving me and why should I take it that's what I do I'm sorry I misstated yes I do take my life in

100% skepticism I do not go around and say hey I'm going to open my book at the University of Illinois and just take everything they say and and take it as a truth of course I has questions of course I look at everything can't 100% skeptic you've got your back right now turned to a lot of people Maybe they got a knife in their pocket are going stick you in the back you cannot be 100% skeptic you got to learn to trust you've got to learn to trust if you don't trust you're going to be

a very lonely person now you got to make reasonable decisions but you can't be 100% skeptic you can't be 100% proving didn't you just tell us to be skeptical yes but then you've got to be reasonable when it comes to your skepticism oh so now there's a Reasonable that you you're going to draw the line for my reasonability I'm asking you to be reasonable you're obviously reasonable you've not checked all these people to see if they've got knives in their back pockets you say no I'm here at the University of Illinois the University of Illinois

does not accept murderers in the student body here usually no I understand kill me if they want have to examine everyone's Pockets I can't prove Christ but the evidence is That Christ is reliable no proof evidence what's the evidence an amazing life don't you respect Mother Teresa why do you respect Mother Teresa cuz she lived a life that was so Christlike why do you respect Dr Martin Luther King cuz he lived a life in so many ways that was Christlike in the way he peacefully fought evil we respect that so look at Christ's life he

lived a life of amazing Integrity incredible compassion so that's one reason to trust Him secondly read his teachings do unto others as you would have them do unto you if someone strikes you on the right cheek turn it on the other also tremendous teachings demand respect thirdly watch the way he dies nailed to wooden Cross Beam instead of cursing his enemies he prays father forgive them for they know not what they do but fourthly and most importantly 3 days after he dies he physically bodily rises from the dead and over a period of 40 days

he Appears to over 500 people at different times in different places risen from the dead it's that evidence not proof not 100% proof no way there's always room for doubt I've got doubts we all have doubts but the overwhelming evidence is you can trust the man he's not out to rip you off he loves you you can trust him Cliff's Point really resonated with me you can't have 100% proof of anything it's about evaluating the evidence and making a decision based on that and I Respect people who have this Faith but I can't stand it

when somebody can just stand there and tell someone else that they're wrong for their belief cuz I could never do that personally ma'am I don't think you've heard you said you have no respect I have I I said I have this much intellectual respect for an atheist who talks about Hope Study atheism study kamu SRA all the great atheistic nii if you believe there is no God man There's no basis for a bright future how can that be I have hope for all the children in the world to have a bright future I hope that

there will be no war I hope that we will all live a happy existence that's hope that's his Essence of Hope I don't have hope for the afterlife but I still have hope okay then I'm sorry we got to Define hope hope is not just wishful thinking you're right regardless of whether we're atheist or theist we can wish a happy Future for our children okay when I use the word hope I'm talking about a confident expectation of good in the end and you see if you're an atheist what you've got to acknowledge is the end

the end is the end the end is we're all fertilizer you see there's no confident expectation of good does that make sense I completely disagree with that because if you've Lived a good life and you're true to yourself yes isn't that the Essence of Hope what you're talking about is f no ma'am hope has to do with the Future Hope is a confident expectation the future is so big to begin with pardon you're are you talking about millions of years down the road or tomorrow the future's vague you're not being specific enough because if I

have hope for tomorrow that's still hope what you're talking about is Faith you're talking About faith for the future that's completely different than hope all right you're right there is a connection between Faith and Hope I my faith is is that there is no God my faith is that there is no God then I I can't be an intellectual hypocrite and talk about wow there's a bright future out there I don't know that despair is The Logical conclusion of atheism I'm not in despair though I Don't I don't understand how atheism is despair when I

don't have despair okay and ma'am you see I'm all I'm trying to do is intellectually challenge you cuz I don't think you're being honest with yourself read kamu Albert kamu read John Paul serger read any of the great atheist philosophers and what they point out with searing honesty is because there is no God when you die you rot when I die I rot but I will have left something on This planet for others to remember me by that's where the Hope comes in I hope in future Generations I want to I want to be in

theater I want to write plays I hope future Generations pick up my play like they pick up Shakespeare and say oh I totally understand what this person was thinking I understand this time this place that's hope okay now no ma'am I'm not trying to offend you but what are the Possibilities of your plays being read like Shakespeare's plays have been read slim to none but I still can hold that hope can I like you can hold the hope that you will get to heaven good okay now that's the difference you see when a follower of

Christ talks about hope he's not talking about something as Slim as I hope my plays will be read like Shakespeare's plays have been read rather hope for a follower of Christ is a confident expectation of good based on The Promises of Christ the evidence is Christ doesn't lie the evidence is he's reliable he has promised us eternal life when we put our faith in him I don't need a promise to go for what I believe in though okay fine but then ma'am would you please face reality and reality is no offense to you but reality

is that your plays will probably not be read with the same frequency that Shakespeare's plays have been read even If they are if there is no God when that thing Burns Out curtain we're all freezing and to tell you the truth before that burns out something else is probably going to happen we're either going to blow ourselves to bit with a nuclear bomb or something else is going to bring this thing we call life on planet Earth to a screeching halt if there is no God man we're all Headed towards a fertilizer pick now think

about that I have well if you think about that honestly you can't talk to me about a confident expectation of good out there you've got to be honest and you've got to say it's the fertilizer pit guys that's where we're headed and that's why kamu and nii and SRA say you know you guys in Western Europe and United States who call yourselves atheists you better start being honest with yourselves and you Better stop talking about hope for the future you better realize there is no hope for the future we're all become fertilizer which means that

morality is r relative which means if you want to be Mother Teresa go right ahead but if you want to be Adolf Hitler go right ahead you see it really ultimately doesn't matter it's just simply what you choose to do so if you want to be Hitler the second go ahead if you want to be Mother Teresa the second Go ahead but it's all relative see now you're getting completely away from hope now you're getting into Free Will no ma' I'm not it's a completely different thing it's free will if you have choice to either

be good or evil that's free will man don't you realize what you told me your Hope was based on you stood there and told me correct me if I'm wrong I'm a playright I'm going to write plays and people are going to enjoy those plays like they enjoy Shakespeare's plays but if they don't it's not going to stop me from trying to get to that hope that dream but if you take your atheism seriously what you've got to realize is I can go and make those plays or I can go out and poison people to

death it's ultimately meaningless which means despair is the only logical conclusion of atheism it doesn't matter whether you feed the starving or whether you Slaughter the starving it's all Relative it's all meaningless it all ends in the same place the fertilizer piit how can his resurrection when was the last time you saw a resurrection of any last time I saw seen exactly can you I mean have you ever seen any kind of a phenomenon like that before I me no I mean so how can you believe something like that because first of all the evidence

is that a supernatural God exists and because a supernatural God exists he is totally capable of Performing a miracle so you've seen God basically no I've seen evidence that God exists like what order and design of the cosmos Life coming from life not from non-life moral absolutes pointing us to the fact that there's more to reality than matter and energy free will but I'm sure unless you can can you prove that we even exist sir I can't even prove we're having this conversation exactly exactly so I mean when when you start talking about all These

different things and what you're basically talking about is whose rhetoric is stronger and then you would follow that no sir no sir right here I don't I can't prove to be sitting here it is not an issue of rhetoric whether I sto my hand right there it is an issue of evidence the evidence is yes it here that's why I don't keep swinging through his handsome face has nothing to do with rhetoric has to do with evidence that the guy's sitting here I base my life on Evidence I can't prove to you he's there but

boy the evidence of my eyesight is he is there therefore I stop when his face begins but where's the evidence of Resurrection that's historical evidence the historical evidence found in Matthew Mark Luke and John is that the guy really died on a cross was really buried and 3 Days Later really came alive again and that's exactly what I'm saying is that that that's rhetoric I'm not saying that what do you mean that's rhetoric it Is words yeah so you do agree on that right and I'm saying that to prove something in order for them to

prove something they would have to say all these things and they they're doing exactly that we already agre we can't prove anything so don't use proof I can't use proof okay I'm talking about okay evidence that they're saying and well I'm saying proof because that's what they're using because I'm saying that they're talking they're using Rhetoric for people to believe in these things and uh to believe in Jesus and believe is irrational so I mean it's it it could be no belief is not irrational doesn't have to be IR it can be irrational but if

your belief is based on solid evidence that's not an irrational belief but then it's not belief yes it is belief I mean if it's solid evidence then it's concrete I mean there's no belief in it prove to me the University of Texas is going to Grant You a diploma on your day of graduation prove to me UT is not going to say hey let's break tradition no diplomas this year it is possible prove to me that you're going to get to heaven even if you do all the things that can't prove it then there we

go so that's rhetoric but there's EV no there's evidence that UT is a reliable institution of Higher Learning based on that evidence you pay a big tuition you study hard to get a diploma that's belief Y and that belief Is based on evidence you don't prove UT is going to give you a diploma the evidence is if you complete the course of study if you pay your tuition they'll give you a diploma sir you have belief prove to me your roommate's not going to stick a knife in your back tonight you can't prove it prove

to me prove to me that your closest friend is not going to stick a knife in your back tomorrow I can't I don't have a belief in that though you You don't I I certainly I expect anybody to stab me in the back true yes and I'm from New York too so I'm sure you believe that too right well I think or you know that I should say although I cannot prove to you that my best friend is not going to stick a knife in my back there's a lot of evidence that my best friend

is not going to stick a knife in my back that's why when I see my best friend on Wednesday I'm not going to check her Pockets and purse to find out if she got a knife in there that's belief sir what about the I think it's the 10th one Thou shalt not covet yes sir it lists the things that you shouldn't covet right including your neighbor's slave right does that mean slavery is a perfectly fine thing no cuz it certainly seems like it because it's not saying Thou shalt not have slaves that not own another

human being is just don't take them from your neighbor right and There's a lot of other things in the Mosaic books that refer to you know God saying go into this area conquer them you know pick pick slaves if you want kill the babies you know take the women as your concubines and so on I mean it seems like your moral if that's a moral absolute and if you connected with the other things that are specially in the Mosaic text it seems like you know part of the moral absolute is kill people who don't believe

believe in God it's so to Enslave people um and you know any number of other Horrors so is that the absolute that you want to be basing any society on okay good question difficult question do you think slavery is wrong and if so why you're asking me yes sir uh I believe it's wrong because uh human beings have basic rights and it's a complete Distortion of you know another person's Humanity to who claim to own them in any way or even exploit them in My view where do my rights come from where do these rights

come from that you referred to well they certainly didn't come from the Bible because the Bible upholds slavery the Bible upholds that certain people are more important and other people you know you can wipe them out with impunity so they certainly didn't come from the Bible I believe they came from you know the concrete political struggle of millions and millions of people around the world You know whether it's it blacks in the US or you know um Keta people in the Andes or or whatever that's where these rights come from because human beings have fought

for them not because some imaginary God told people that they exist when actually you know what the Bible says is that these rights do not exist in fact the exact opposite exists so what I hear you saying is whoever wins the fight their definition wins and that's the right definition no it's not At all what I'm saying what you saying what I'm saying is that these rights were established through political struggle that's not the same thing as saying whoever wins is right because it's actually the exact exact opposite because the only reason why you're around

here talking about Christianity is because 1700 years ago the Roman Empire took it up and enforced it across a large empire at the point of a sword you know that's a perfect example in Fact of you know uh people winning a struggle and deciding what's right Christianity as you're preaching it is only around because of the might of the Roman Empire and them enforcing it on you know not just their own populations but other populations I'm talking about something much different I'm talking about you know a conscious political struggle by many people to exert their

rights as as as human beings regardless of what any you know secular or Supposedly sacred institution is putting forth what I've heard you say is we have human rights because certain the right people won the political Warfare you've said it rather clearly and please correct me if I'm wrong that the basis of Human Rights is political victories by those who assert that we all are equal I definitely would agree that it came about as a result of of political Victory one through struggle yes I totally agree with that because I don't Believe there are any

moral you know absolutes there's nothing out there floating outside of you know the natural world and human existence that says okay that is the rock upon which everything is established all right said no if I'm living in Papa New Guinea and cannibalism is accepted by the political structure there if my neighbor wants to eat me according to your world view which is human rights are determined by the political system it is okay for my Neighbor that is not that is not what I'm saying well then what are you saying I thought you said flat out

that human rights are based on political victories I said political rights and human rights were established through struggle that is absolutely not the same thing as saying that any existing political system therefore has right on its side that's right so what are you saying exactly what I've been saying yeah which is real clear you're saying I The individual stand back and critique different cultures different political systems and I as the individual say that political system is right that political system is wrong what makes you so sure you're right a that is not what I'm saying

well then what are you saying B I'm same thing I was always saying it happens through Collective conscious political struggle by many millions of people that's the kind of thing except and There's absolutely nothing what I'm saying it's actually what I'm critiquing is what you're putting forth that there is some type of absolute you're doing a great job being a cynic the problem is you're not putting forth why human rights are real I asked you a head-to-head question sir what is the basis of Human Rights why do we have human rights what are they where

do they come from what's the basis of them you said answered me by saying the political Struggle has produced human rights I'm saying really mhm different political struggles have defined human rights differently yeah cannibalism apartheid Dread Scott Decision yeah so which one's right which one's wrong you are saying you decide is what I hear you saying you're making an absolute out of what I'm putting forth as a conditional historical thing I'm not saying you know anything that's Developed as a result of political struggle is therefore just or anything like that or there is no basis

I'm just saying there is no God deciding it and if it's your God it's a up basis to do it because your God likes slavery your God likes genocide okay so all you got to do that's what I'm rejecting all all you got to do is read friedrick Nichi friederick nii does a great job pointing out that you can't hold the position you're holding because this is what You're doing you're grabbing the goody goodies from a theistic world viw from God existing in fact you are grabbing the goody goodies from a Biblical Christian worldview but

you're denying the god who's behind it you love the ethic which is human rights sir if there is no God there is no such thing as human rights if there is no God sir we are all hunks of primordial slime evolved to a higher order if there is no God your birth is an accident your death Is an accident the only thing that lies between those two accidents is another accident your life there's no such thing as a human right there's no such thing as human dignity if there is no God if there is no

God we're all glorified slim evolv to a higher order and to sit out here and talk about human rights as if they were absolute as if they were objective is a trip into La La Land fantasy land but again that's not what I'm saying you well then what are you Saying did I say that human rights were absolute that they were you yeah you were critiquing some as being better than others some as being right and others being wrong yeah you sure were and you made some rather direct moral absolute statements about the Bible you

reel back in moral indignation and said oh look what that naughty naughty book talks about what do you mean naughty naughty book aren't you a relativist what do you mean naughty naughty book Nii did it kamuz SRA did it I'm not making this stuff up just think read those guys they're right beron Russell one of the greatest atheistic philosophers nailed it all over the head if there is no God there no human rights there's no justice this it's all meaningless and if I say this guy's valuable then he's valuable for me but if this woman

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