when I see him down at 150 and this would be even worse at 47. I don't see someone with power in his hands or someone that's got that kind of danger and I I think Ryan's a good solid fight. I don't think Ryan's anywhere near the levels of Shakur and Devin and [music] those guys, but I think I think he'd be a big favorite to beat Conor Ben.
These are fights that Connor Ben could very easily lose. So if you're Conor Ben's team, you're trying to get the Garcia fight cuz even if you lose, you lose to Ryan Garcia. lose on a big stage, but I for the life of me don't understand anyone that thinks that Connor Ben's a bigger fight than Devin Haney.
In the US, it's definitely not a bigger fight. Like Conor Ryan Garcia versus Deon Haney is huge in the US. Eddie Hearn has cautioned Connor Ben about taking the Ryan Garcia fight and his warning makes this matchup feel even more dangerous.
Ryan Garcia has come out and said that a fight between himself and Connor is done for August. But if that's a ring card, would you pro it if Turkey shake asked you because you know I mean Connor Ben signed to Zufa. He didn't fight on a Zufa card last week.
He won't fight on a Zufa card versus Ryan Garcia because that would be a turkey shake card. But you know if Connor Ben got 15 million to fight Regis Prograde he'll be getting 20 25 million to fight Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is the champion.
Ryan Garcia should be getting $50 million. Hearn believes Ben has improved a lot and looks much stronger when he fights above 150. But if the fight happens at 147 for Ryan's WBC title, that could change everything.
He warned that Connor may not carry the same power, sharpness, and danger if he has to cut down too much. That is why Hearn sees Ryan as a serious problem in this fight. Garcia has the speed, timing, and punching power to punish mistakes.
And if Ben comes in drained or loses some of his strength, the fight becomes even more dangerous. So, while the matchup has big hype, Hearn's warning is clear. Connor Ben needs to be very careful before jumping into a fight like this at welterweight.
And that warning comes at a time when the fight feels more realistic than ever. Dana White is now open to making Connor Ben versus Ryan Garcia next. And Connor's new fiveight deal with Zufa has made the whole situation even bigger.
This is not just another fantasy matchup being thrown around online anymore. With Ben now connected to Zufa, Dana has a direct reason to chase a major fight for him. And Ryan Garcia is exactly the kind of name that can bring attention fast.
Ryan Garcia and the potential for a fight against him is what everybody's been making noise about. What fight do you want? What have you told Dana White?
Whoever wants to see can get it. That's who you are. I have no doubt about it, but I asked a very direct question.
This is first thing. He don't know me that well yet. Who do you like?
Who's the next? That's all I want to hear. That's all I want to hear.
Dana, that's what I was asking about. What about you, Dana? I I agree with everything he said.
That's why I'm in the business right now, is to make the fights that people want to see. This sport is way more broken than I even thought it was. I've already done more fights this year, my first year, than all the promoters combined.
My job is to figure out how how to pay him and pay me. You know, I got to make sure that we make enough money for everybody. His job is to be a badass.
I just want to give people value for money. I want people to want to tune into a Connor Ben fight. I pour my soul into my fights and I give them every every shot I have.
But this is where the business side starts getting complicated. Eddie Hearn has made it clear that Dazone could be the real key to whether Ryan Garcia versus Connor Ben actually happens. From Hearn's side, this fight is not as simple as Dana White, Golden Boy, Zufa, or the fighters just saying yes.
Ryan Garcia is still tied to Dawzone. And if the broadcaster does not approve or become part of the deal, the whole matchup could fall apart before it even becomes official. That changes the story completely.
Now, it is not only Ryan versus Ben. It is Dana White, Oscar De La Hoya, Daone, Eddie Hearn, Zufa, and Paramount all sitting around the same fight trying to figure out who actually controls the deal. Ryan Garcia is exclusive to Done.
Therefore, if you want to procure his services, you need to be having a conversation not just with Oscar de la Hoya. Damn right, he's his actual promoter, but also with the broadcaster that holds that exclusivity. But they think they can just walk in.
And right now it's a really interesting situation because if that doesn't get resolved there will be no rhyme Garcia Connor Ben fight and Don kind of hold the keys to that and Dana hates it because not just has Dana got to have a conversation with the zone. I mean Dana won't have the conversation cuz he's a puppet but not just as I don't know Nick Khan or whoever it's going to be has got to have a conversation with the zone. They've got to have a conversation with Oscar De La Hoya.
If Dana White is standing up there talking about the fight, Oscar de la Hoya is gonna have to be right next to him. That's actually worth making a fight just but I don't think they'll do it. I think he'll say no, I'm not having it because this is what they do.
There's no flexibility and no kind of desire to work with anybody. So that's the neutral take on the situation. Eddie Hearn also reacted to the Oscar de la Hoya and Daone issues around Zufa boxing and his message made the Ryan Garcia versus Connor Ben situation feel even more tangled.
Dana may want the fight. Connor may be locked in with Zufa, but Ryan Garcia is not a free piece on the board. Oscar De La Hoya and Da still have a major say, which means Dana cannot just walk in and control the entire event by himself.
But what Dana White also doesn't know is that in Anthony Joshua's contract, it clearly states the fight must take place in the UK. But I don't even think Dana White knows that. I mean, at the moment, and someone said to me, why isn't he kind of just backtracking and go, all right, fair enough.
I'm not prom. I said, can do you imagine Dana White sitting up at a press conference goes, "Guys, I've got to apologize. I got it wrong.
Sorry, Eddie. Sorry. " So, what he's doing now is he's doubling down.
He's treling down. and he'll just try and find a way where he can pretend that he sort of played some kind of role because Zufur is incapable of actually making a really big fight on their own right now. So, this is his way of saying I'm the promoter.
What I mean instead instead of like no you're not like I'm not even saying I'm the promoter but I know one thing you can't be involved because it's in the contracts of both fighters what I mean and and the fight must take place in the UK in our contract. Now Turkey Shake is also paying the bill. So if Tula Shake phoned me up and said, "We actually want to do the fight in Las Vegas.
" I would say, "Okay, let me speak to Anthony. We'll renegotiate the deal and we'll look at that. " And while the business drama is building behind the scenes, Connor Ben's own words about Ryan Garcia are making the fight feel personal.
Calling Ryan a liability, a loose cannon, unpredictable, and even unprofessional may sound like Ben trying to expose him mentally. But there is a danger in that, too. Ryan already fights with emotion, and if he feels disrespected, that anger could come out the moment the bell rings.
Ben may believe he is getting into Ryan's head, but poking someone with Ryan's speed and punching power can be risky. If Ryan walks into the ring feeling embarrassed or disrespected, he may not just want to win, he may want to make a statement. I think Ryan Garcia is a is great for boxing.
I think he's a liability. I think he's a loose cannon. I think he's unpredictable.
Could say unprofessional. Um, but ultimately he's sheer entertainment, gifted, he's got great hand speed. Eddie Hearn has said, and a lot of people agree, commercially, if Ryan were to win, you and him, whether it's here, whether it's in the UK, one of the biggest fights to be made.
Yeah, I agree. I think I think Ryan's a character. I think he he does good numbers.
um if Ryan does win, you know, no doubt we can make Ryan um at Wembley in in London in June, July. Regis Progra also made it clear that Connor Ben is not someone Ryan Garcia can take lightly. According to Regis, Ben may not be the smoother or more skilled fighter, but he has something that can still make him dangerous.
It's hard to be the man that's possessed. It really is. You know, it feel like Connor Benn is possessed.
I'm not going to lie. Like I said, I look at him in his eyes and he don't got to be that. You don't got to be that good, bro.
You don't have to have that much skill when you just when you possess on something. You really, really want something, you possess something on, you don't have to have that much skill. So, Ben fights like a man who badly wants to prove a point.
That kind of hunger can make a fighter hard to deal with, especially when he also carries real power. Regis still sees Ryan as the sharper boxer because of his speed, timing, and left hook. But he also believes Ben's pressure and right hand could change the fight in one moment.
The thing is with Ryan, I think Ryan does have better skill. Ryan is fast, big hook and stuff like that, but kind of has power, you know, and power can change everything, bro. You know, when you got power, one punch can change everything.
So, it'll I think that'll be it'll be a very interesting fight. Um, like I said, I think I think that skill-wise, of course, I lean more towards um I lean more towards Ryan, but K's hungry. You know, it's hard to beat the hungry somebody that's hungry want that that wants to that wants to be a champion.
It's hard to beat him, bro. and it it'll be if they do make that fight happen, it'll be very interesting to see what what'll happen with it. That is why Regis does not see this as a simple boxing match.
He sees two explosive fighters who can both hurt each other. And when you put that kind of power and pressure in the same ring, one mistake can be enough to end the night. If I had to pick, I would think somebody would get stopped.
I think it's of course in boxing it's possible, but I would think somebody would get stopped in that fight because both of them, I mean, Connor can punch, Ryan is fast, he can punch also. Um, I I think it could go distance, but I think if I had to pick, I would think still I think he get stopped. Whoever lands, you know, Ryan Ryan is fast.
He has a real good check hook and he's fast with that, but Connor kind of has a lot of power in the right hand also. So, Bernie also gave a blunt take on Connor Ben possibly fighting Ryan Garcia for the WBC title. From his view, Ben being pushed into that position says a lot about boxing politics, not just pure achievement.
He does not believe Ben's recent win was enough to clearly earn a championship opportunity, but he also pointed out that Ryan Garcia is getting a title shot after coming off a loss. Um, I'm not too high on Conor Ben. I don't uh believe in his skill set.
Um, I don't believe him as a fighter. I'm not a huge fan. I'm not um like against him in no type of way, but he hasn't won uh me over as a fan, as a believer in him as being um somebody in boxing.
That is why Bernie called boxing a shaky business. Rankings and title chances are not always about who deserves it the most. Sometimes it comes down to money, popularity, connections, and who can bring attention to the fight.
But when it comes to the actual matchup, Bernie made his pick clear. If Ryan Garcia and Connor Ben meet in the ring, he favors Ryan to win. What's your think?
What's your thoughts on him, you know, fighting for the WBC title against Ryan Garcia next? I mean, well, they pushed him up to number one, you know, so it was politics and money, you know, pressed him to number one. Um, I don't think this uh win uh warranted a shot at the championship, but you know, Ryan Garcia coming off a loss and got a shot at the championship.
So, uh, boxing is a is a shaky game. You know, um, I guess if you can quote unquote do numbers or have the right political connections, you know, anything has happened. But um I'll favor Ryan Garcia in the match.
And um that's all I got to say about that. I don't Mickey Bay also explained why Ben could run into real trouble against someone like Ryan Garcia. His reasoning is simple.
Ryan has the speed, timing, and power to catch fighters while they are coming forward. And because Ben's style is built around aggression, he could end up walking straight into danger. Mickey still gave Ben credit for being tough, determined, and dangerous.
But he also admitted that he could see Ryan winning by knockout. At the same time, he called it a competitive and interesting matchup, which is exactly why fans are watching closely. This is not just about who looks better on paper.
It is about what happens when Ryan's counters meet Ben's pressure. Yeah, Ryan Ryan um you know, Ryan just like a wild card. You know, he he definitely got [music] you know, when he had his best, yeah, I definitely see him beating Conor be.
Like I said, I rather deon fight one of when you said that, you know, you think that Ryan beats him, what what do you see like why do you feel that way? I just think dude will probably run into something. Yeah, I think he'd run into something.
He, you know, he tough. He gonna bring it. But Conor B is a good opponent for him or Deon because he gonna bring it.
He going to come to fight. He, you know, he got he, you know, he got some heart. So he gonna come to fight.
He ain't one of them dudes going to just let you get it the easy way. But I mean uh we definitely, you know, definitely destroy him like Yeah. Yeah.
So you you you're thinking that Ryan Garcia would knock out Ben? Yeah, I think it's a possibility. Yo, is it a big is is it a big fight?
Connor Ben and him there's rumors saying that it could be on Netflix. And while all these predictions are coming in, Connor Ben is clearly putting in serious work. In his latest training footage, he is unloading vicious power shots on the mits.
And every punch looks like it has bad intentions behind it. That is the kind of intensity fans expect from Ben. Because his whole style is based on pressure, aggression, and making opponents uncomfortable.
Ryan may have the faster hands and the dangerous left hook. But Ben looks like he is preparing to walk him down and test him physically. If this fight gets made, Ben's camp is already sending a message.
He is not coming to the box safely. He is coming to hurt Ryan and make the fight rough. Sergio Mora looked at the fight from a different angle and he focused more on timing and promotion.
In his view, Zufa throwing big money around can make fights happen, but that does not always mean the matchup has the right momentum. Sergio said if Connor Ben had delivered a huge knockout win over Regis Pro, then the Ryan fight would feel much easier to sell. Ryan already brings the name value, the power, and the attention that comes with becoming champion.
But Ben's last performance did not create the same explosive hype. That is why Sergio seems cautious about the fight. He understands the business.
But he also believes boxing fans care about timing, form, and recent performances. For him, Ryan Garcia still has the speed and power that make this fight dangerous, while Ben still needs to prove he belongs in that kind of spotlight. And when Zufa is spreading that money around, overpaying guys like Connor Ben that doesn't deserve it.
Connor Ben, if he would have had a knockout, if he would have had a red-hot performance in his last fight and knocked out ProGrade, guess what? I would have been on board for that Garcia because timing matters. Not only in boxing, but in promotion, timing matters.
So, with both of them coming off a huge win, Connor Ben a knockout, Ryan Garcia, you know, knocking down and and and becoming champion, uh, knocking down that that that that barrier I thought he was never going to knock out. That's what you can sell. But for me, then Gary Logan changed the tone around the fight by saying Connor Ben can beat Ryan Garcia.
That is a big statement because a lot of people still see Ryan as the sharper boxer with faster hands and a more dangerous oneshot power. But from Gary's side, Connor's pressure, fitness, and hunger could make this fight very uncomfortable for Ryan. Ben is not coming to stand at range and admire Ryan's speed.
He is going to push forward, make it physical, and test Ryan every round. If Ryan gets dragged into a rough fight instead of controlling the pace, that is where Connor could start taking over. But this is what he's wanted.
This is like, you've got to want this and he must want it. He's he's he's chased it. Like we said about Benvdz earlier on in the show, David Benvdz, some fighters run towards challenges and some run away from it.
And Connor has openly said, "I want to fight for the WBC belt. " And he must know that, you know, we all knew that Ryan was going to beat Barios. Didn't think he'd dominate him in the manner that he did, but he knew that somewhere down the road if he was going to go for that WBC belt, all roads run through Ryan Garcia.
Conor Ben's a puncher. He's got to be explosive. He's got to do the kind of stuff that Roly Romero done.
Make it an awkward dog fight just like he did in the in the Eubank fight. Do you know what I mean? Like he can go there and go to the well.
And I think when he does go to the well and really explodes and he's like wants instead of boxing so much, but when he when he has that dog in him, I think that's the way to beat. Derek Chisora and Simon Jordan also discussed the possible clash between Connor Ben and Ryan Garcia and they looked closely at the expectations around Ben. Simon pointed out that Ben has made money and built his name, but he also suggested that Ben has been carefully matched throughout his career.
In his view, Ryan Garcia would represent a major step up. That is where the real question begins. Is Ben ready for someone who has fought on a bigger stage with more speed, more reach, and more global attention?
Or would this be the fight where people finally see the difference between Ben and the very top level? A lot of people think that Connor has been wonderfully matched, marvelously matched, made enormous amounts of money, which no one begrudges people making money, but has been wonderfully matched to achieve that. Ryan Garcia, whatever we may or may not think about his performance against Tank Davis, is at a level that could possibly expose Connor Ben to what people think is that he's not at this level.
What's your view on that? Do you think he gets exposed in this fight, Connor? Listen, Connor is my pal, so I'm not going to sit here and try to uh mess up his name and that.
Um, [music] this is a good fight for him. He's always wanted a big fight. Now he's getting it on what's called Mexico independence day.
But Wade explained that this fight is not just about rankings or money. According to him, there is a real personal edge behind it. Ryan Garcia has already said part of the reason he wants Connor Ben is because of what happened when they crossed paths at an event.
At first, it looked like a normal interaction, but things quickly became tense. Connor came off heated while Ryan seemed like he was trying to talk and keep it light. But once Connor told him that the famous left hook would not work on him, the whole situation changed.
That line may have sounded confident, but it also made the fight feel even more dangerous because if there is one punch Ryan is known for, it is that left hook. And Wade made it clear that Connor may be taking a serious risk by dismissing it. I love this fight.
I think people are being way too harsh on Connor bad. Like we said on the show last week, he fought a very tough style in Reg's program who yes is at the end of his career, but nonetheless a crafty southpaw who knows how to handle himself, who likes to scrap. So Conor Ben, you know, I think they like we say, it's a cliche, but win this time, look good next time, and I think Conor Ben will look a lot better against Ryan Garcia.
I know Ryan's the favor, but if the fight does get finalized, all I know is it's going to be a Jeff Mayweather gave a more balanced but honest take on Connor Ben. According to him, Ben may be getting both too much attention and not enough respect at the same time. He does not see everyone praising Ben like he is already proven at the highest level, but he also believes the money and spotlight around him make the hype feel bigger than his actual resume.
From Jeff's point of view, part of the attention comes from the Ben name because Connor's father, Nigel Ben, is a respected figure in boxing. That family name opens doors and puts Connor in major conversations, even though Jeff feels he still has not achieved enough in the ring to fully earn that level of attention. So, when people talk about Ben, the question becomes simple.
Is the boxing world judging him for what he has done or for the name he carries? Do you think that Counter Ben is being overlooked or overhyped? Probably a little bit of both.
I mean, I haven't really heard anyone hyping him. Well, the thing is is that except Zupa paying him all that money for that one fight. Well, that's enough.
That's overhyped. That's hype. Yeah.
So, I mean, and um I mean, don't get me wrong, but I mean, he has it's not necessarily his name. It's his dad's name, right? That Nigel that's actually, you know, putting him in these in these um in these situations.
So, I mean, he hasn't really he hasn't really done a whole lot.
