Troll CHALLENGES Sam Shamoun On The Trinity & Then Manifests Live [Debate]

how can I help you James how's it going hey how's it going so you keep barking right you want do you have your Bible John 5 30 so I can use it to bury you and Muhammad absolutely so um do you know the context of John 5 3 Let's see if you read it what's the context of John 5 30. it says it basically just says um uh that uh I can do nothing on my own no that's not what it says because it doesn't begin in verse 30. I just told you what the context is where does it begin I don't know say it again I I don't know I want to hear the third time say it again I I don't know exactly James you see if you come arrogant you're going to be humble and you're going to have your mouth crushed before I give you the context show you how it proves that Jesus is your god and judge are you a muhammadin be honest don't be ashamed of your religion um I'm actually a non-trinitarian so are do you claim to be a Christian yes so you think Muhammad is an antichrist son of the devil absolutely okay good then you're right okay all right now do you have your Bible James yes open up John 5 because the context is not 30.

James the context actually is the entire chapter but for the sake of of time I want you to read 16 to 19 for starters let's see how well you listen so that you can answer my points as I refute your objection but read 16 18 first he heals a paralytic now if James is sincere I'll take a lot of time dealing with him but the way he's been trolling in the comments section seems like you're attacking but I'll give you benefit of them so because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath the Jewish leaders began to persecute him in his defense Jesus said to them my father is always at his work to this very day and and two and I too am working for this reason they tried all the more to kill him Not only was he breaking the Sabbath but he was even calling God his own father making himself equal with God why do you think they were trying to kill him for that statement because he was claiming to be God in what way because he just said he's not the father right he was calling God his own father making him no he's not the father right he's not the father Yes but so assume that though he just denied he's the father he just made a claim that somehow made him equal to the father and therefore God In the Flesh why I'll help you because he justify doing a miracle on the Sabbath day pay attention James because he says just like the father works on the Sabbath and doesn't stop working I too am working in other words the Jews knew as Jews they couldn't work on the Sabbath but God is not bound to the Sabbath restrictions because God has to be actively sustaining creation every day of the week even on the Sabbath right yes so what Jesus is saying is like my father is exempt from Sabbath rules because he's still working on the Sabbath to sustain and preserve life I too am working in other words I too with the father am exempt from keeping Sabbath restrictions now the Jews know only God is exempt yet Jesus is a Jew how dare he make that assertion if he's not God do you understand their logic yeah I understand their logic okay but now I'm going to show you that Jesus is going to Bear you for rejecting their logic because now read 19. so I know where you're going oh Jesus Jesus gave them this answer really very truly I tell you the son can do nothing by himself he can do only what he sees his father is doing because whatever the father does the son also does why is it when Jesus is about to destroy your objection your your voice all of a sudden goes down louder read it one more time louder Jesus gave them this answer very very truly I tell you the son can do nothing by himself he can do only what he sees his father doing because whatever the father does the son also does can you show me a creature saying I can only do what God does can a creature say that is there a creature the maybe like a prophet a messenger okay then you're on drugs prophets do a lot of things that God doesn't do so let's try it again which prophet can say I only do what God does uh no there isn't any creature but that's what Jesus just said reread it it's right in front of you reread it that's what Jesus just said so thank you for proving he's no mere creature reread it Jesus gave them the sense of very truly I tell you the son can do nothing by himself he can do only what he sees his father doing because whatever the father does the son also does so the son does everything the father does and the way the father does it and that's all he can do he can't do anything else thank you for admitting that Jesus is no more creature because no creature can say what Jesus just said now read 20 and 21 which you never read in your life 20 and 21. for the father loves the son and shows him all he does yes and he will show him even Greater Works than these so that you will be amazed but just as the father raises the dead and gives them life even so the son gives life to whom he pleased so is that you don't mistake what she's saying see whatever the father does I do it in the same way he does it because I do whatever he does and I only do what he does so he gives life I give life because Jesus is one with the father why didn't you read 16 to 30.

why did you jump to 30 and ignore the context Now read 22 and 23 for me moreover the father judges no one but as but has entrusted all judgment to the son that all might honor the son that all or that all may honor the sun just as they honor the father whoever whoever does not honor the son does not honor the father who sent him okay now can you show me a prophet saying God requires that you honor me the same way you honor God Prophet or Angelic creature says God requires that you honor me the way you honor God well Prophet Muhammad also you believe in Muhammad no but in if you look at Islam and he doesn't say that Muhammad is an antichrist right he's under the feet of Christ because he's a blasphemer and idolatrist are you that stupid to appeal to someone who's an antichrist because that's what Satan does Satan wants you to elevate yourself to God so thank you again for proving to me that if someone is God fearing and righteous he won't say that you know you're sounding stupider as you go along so let's try it again a righteous Prophet an unrighteous Angelic creature not Satan your father would they say honor me as you honor God uh no so then how could Jesus whom you believe is righteous unless you're a blasphemer say that the father requires of you to honor me the way you honor him so do you honor Jesus the way you honor the father no I don't okay so then According To Jesus God will damn you to hell because you're dishonoring the father for not giving his son the same honor you give to the father so you're no Christian what are you I'm a fake Christian so when are you going to repent and become a true one very soon okay good so you want me now go through the rest of your list which is miscotted everyone that you quoted out of context like John 14 28 even though I've done thousands of sessions and written thousands of Articles explaining all this have you watched any of my sessions and read any of my articles on John 14 28 John 5 30 and on and on everything you mentioned in that section I have articles and sessions on have you watched any of them and read any of them no so why don't you do me a favor if you're sincere so that I can then know your sincere I'll treat you differently go look for the sessions articles and when you read them and watch them then come back and say you're right I was wrong or I still disagree with you because you're talking about issues I've answered 10 million times that's why I thought you're a troll for example John 14 28 I'll give you example what I mean can you open up John 14 20. I'm going to just give an example which I just even recently I just addressed that but I want to give you the benefit of that you heard me say I'm going away and I'm coming back to you if you loved me you would be glad that I am going to the father for the father's greater than I okay now not only have I answered this 10 million times and mayor Mark 13 32 I have about seven eight sessions on Mark 13 32 in my playlist let's put that aside you assumed the word greater means that God the father is greater than him in nature if I say to you I'm greater than my dog and I'm greater than my daughter am I greater than my daughter in the same way that I'm greater than my dog no so why did you automatically assume when Jesus says the father is greater than I it means in nature as opposed to position because Jesus is on Earth in the form of a slave who's about to be beaten and humiliated and killed and buried and the father is Basking in glory in heaven why did you automatically assume it means greater in essence when if you had read the context it cannot mean greater in essence here's why can you read John 14 23 for me uh Jesus replied anyone who loves me will obey my teaching my father will love them so we will come to them wait my father will love him and we we imported them and make our home with them what kind of attributes must Jesus have to know who the True Believers are and to be able to personally dwell with every single believer to have fellowship with them to the extreme extent that the father does we will come to him and make our home with him number one he has to know who the True Believers are right yeah and he has to then have the ability to be with every believer to oversee them and have fellowship with them no matter how many no matter where they're at and he does it the same way the father does we together so you're telling me he's not claiming to be equal to the father in essence and verse 23. so you skip 23 and he went to 28 instead of reading the context so Jesus is claiming to be omnipresent omniscient to the same extent the father is so let's forget that one which you did because you went to 28.

Now read John 14 12-14 very truly I will tell you whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing and they would do even greater the things pause there you'll be doing the works I've been doing meaning the Miracles I've been doing you'll do but Greater Works than these now obviously unless you think it's not obvious he's not saying you're going to do better Works than me you're going to do the works I've been doing but a greater number why because if you read book of Acts they went to more places reached more people than Jesus did right so they did more miracles right um I haven't seen a miracle yet I don't care what you've seen we're talking about the New Testament we're not talking about you in 21st century because you just said you're a fake Christian meaning that you want to be a true Christian you believe the New Testament according to the new testament which you voted against me in the book of Acts did the disciples go in more places and reach more people and did miracles in the name of Jesus yeah okay so what does Jesus mean by greater does he mean you're going to do better Works than me or greater in number it sounds like he's saying and you'll do better things than I how when they're going to do the same Miracles he's been doing raising the dead casting out demons giving sight to the blind how can it be better when it's the same Works he just said it the works I've been doing you'll do so in what sense is it Greater I think he's saying I can be God you can be God yeah bury you here because you're going to say because I'm going to the father and then 13 14 he's saying I will be the one doing the merkels for you because you're going to ask me in my name and I'll do it see this while you're a Bible pervert like your father the devil because now I'm finished the verse read 12 to 14. very literally I will tell you I tell you whoever believes in me will do the works I've been doing and they will do even greater things than these because I am going to the father that's the answer see when I go to the father you're going to do Greater Works why now read 13 and 14. and I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the father may be glorified in this you may ask finish not more amen why are you scared of that you may ask what you may you may ask me for anything see the demon in you that's raping you spiritually you're having a hard time saying Demi Park you caught it you have a demon raping you spiritually because that part you're scared to say it the Lord Jesus set you free one more time verse 14.

I I can read it why because Satan your father is molesting you so you can't read it you may ask me for anything in my name and I will do it so why the hell would you say that means you can be a god when Jesus says I will do the Miracles for you because when I go to the father you'll ask me in my name and I will be doing the Miracles for you it's not at your God but that Jesus is God who does the Miracles when you ask him to do it so can I ask you a question if Jesus is not God how dare he say you'll pray to me in heaven and I from heaven will be doing the works for you why didn't you read that why'd you jump to 28. and you want me to show you how they did miracles in Jesus name but in the power of Jesus who's alive in heaven because he's the almighty son equal to the father read acts 9 33 35 and then come back to me later because I've answered your questions sufficiently go to acts 9 33-35 sure and then come back later when you've read my articles and watched my sessions acts 9 33 35 um there he found a man named who was paralyzed and had been bedridden for eight years um Peter said to him Jesus Christ heals you who heals you who heals you God read it again thank you for proving Jesus Is God you buried yourself who heals you read it 34.