I stopped talking about a Muslim should be United and doing this and that America preferred to lose because of the support it gave to Israel for me is a strategic defeat for the West the one who is putting his Trust on Allah Allah will surprise him almost one million people have migrated off so-called Israel on the other side we have seen Palestinians refusing to leave Gazza despite the ongoing uh massacr key for success is s is resilience don't ever give so we'll get right into it inshah we we all know it's been one year since
the escalation in the genocide and ethic cleansing of uh of Gaza obviously the genocide the ethnic cleansing been happening for decades but it's been one year since October the 7th what have we learned over the last year we learned a lot we learned a lot actually the last year is uh is in of itself a school that taught the whole world not the Muslim umah uh taught the whole world so many important lessons for us as Muslims we learned number of things we learned that the key for success is s Is Res resilience not the
uh negative sa not the uh not the passive sa but the positive sub the positive resilience and that's why even from the early generation they used to define as sa as uh to be resilience or they used to define Victory as to be Rel resilience and in the Quran Allah made it clear if you show and if you show then their plot will not harm you whatsoever Allah commanded us to show and to show sa in different ways again is not the negative is not the passive resilience it is resilience while we are firm on
what you are believing you are trying your best to defend yourself you are trying yourself you are taking also the um the the uh the means to become to become Victorious so it's not a passive attitude it is actually an active attitude this is that's why you translated as resilient normally people translate it as patience is it yes patience has a negative connotation resilience has a more positive uh connotation so this is the first one the second one the second one is that uh if you are if you are holding on your principles and you
are firm on your h on your right that gives you motiv to become sber and that gives you motivation to look forward for victory and there is a difference between the genocidal and the Muslim the the Palestinians who are resisting because we have seen clearly within the uh occupation state that almost 1 million it is almost confirmed almost 1 million people have migrated off so-called Israel and we have seen on the other side we have seen Palestinians refusing to leave Gaza despite the ongoing uh massacres the ongoing killing uh despite the fact that they are
hungry Under Siege uh they have no shelters and they're even we have seen in North Gaza in the last few days that even their tents being burned and they are burned while they are alive so despite all of these atrocities that they have been suffering from in the last year despite of course the suffering that they have been suffering before that for 70 plus years despite that they are adamant that they want to continue living in their own land they don't want to leave their land so there is a difference between a person who claims
a right and there is a and on the other side the person who believes and who is rooted in that land so this is another important lesson we also learned a very important lesson that when you rely on Allah Allah gives you power to resist and to remain firm and that's why Allah says in the Quran the one who is putting his Trust on Allah will suffice him yes and Allah also says said that he will test you yeah Allah so this is another important lesson that when Allah is with you you uh will continue
to remain firm and also uh you will Subhan Allah uh many people expected thatza will finish in maybe one 2 3 days maybe they thought that in the first week or maybe three weeks when the air strikes almost uh demolished almost uh half of Gaza then people thought or in the beginning maybe uh destroyed a big amount of Gaza and the infrastructure Etc people thought that the gazan people the Palestinians will give up and that's all but they have been resisting for the whole year yeah so definitely their belief in Allah gave them this power
to resist and their believe in Allah actually inspired the whole world to try to explore why they are able to resist so this is another important lesson also we uh another important lesson which is now let us go to the the uh the outside the Palestinians we have learned that this state socalled Israel state is not a normal state it is a fascist State maybe it is the most fascist state in the whole world maybe in history okay now uh even non-muslims have confirmed this reality and it became in fact it became a toxic a
toxic state if it is through to call it a state uh and and the people there the Zionist people became really toxic and that's why even so many writers they started to speak against Zionism openly and uh you know just sometime ago it they were they wanted to equate Zionism with with anti-Semitism or anti-zionism sorry with anti-Semitism but now this has destroyed and we have seen the recent case of David Miller okay when he won the case the appeal court said that he well to believe that Zionism is um so being anti-zionism is a protected
um belief now yes is confirmed yes yeah so so so so so the person has the right okay to criticize Zionism and it is not equ equated with anti-Semitism okay so judgment was published this week it's like a year old the case but the Judgment was published this week 120 pages and some people they they mentioned something interesting that nobody has an excuse now that this is now clearly laid out black and white in law now that there's no excuse for silence any professors any lecturers whatever they have it in black and white there so
the so we see what exactly this is this is actually a milestone okay this is a landmark this is a landmark judgment and now this we wouldn't imagine this would happen maybe some time ago yeah but this is something that we have learned also we learned that uh we learned that it some people might find it uh find it odd to say this but we learned and the whole world the whole world have witnessed this Zionist State refusing giving the Palestinians any rights okay even those who were singing the song of the two- State solution
is came and the keset as you know in um just maybe two months ago refused in by consensus by consensus maybe there were two three odd uh voices Maybe maybe the Arab uh representatives there but uh let us say by majority that they will not allow yeah the existence of a Palestinian estate okay next to them even in razza in uh West Bank and that also created a major question and by the way I would like to say to for example P Morgan and others now tell us what what do you want the Palestinians to
do no one is now addressing this question they are going right and left but they are not addressing this question what do you want Palestinians to do yeah and you want Palestinians to get to recognize the uh the the the the uh the existence of Israel but in the meantime you don't want the the Israelis to recognize the existence of the Palestinians you want us to confirm the right of Israel to exist but you don't want Israel to confirm the right of the Palestinians to exist how come how is that fair okay but that exposure
is so important because it removes any kind of doubt any kind of doubt of the intention of the so-called Israel of their fascism of their nature of their uh that they are of their toxic nature and that they are not a normal exist that can exist peacefully with its neighbors okay so we learned this also among the things that we learned we learned that uh the International Community is unable to hold Palestinian uh to hold the Israelis uh accountable for whatever they have done they are unable the International Community is unable to protect the Palestinians
the International Community is unable to stop the crimes of uh of the Israelis we have seen that the ICC and the icj ruled against the Palestinians and they used against isra sorry the Palestinians the Israelis and they used a very clear statements against the Israeli State yeah and which was unprecedented it it it happened uh for the first time in in you in history okay of course in the Medan history because isra did not exist before 1948 so this spite that the International Community was unable and is still unable to stop the crimes of the
Israelis okay so we this is a very important lesson which leads to another important lesson which is the whole world and the young people in particular have seen the failure of the international organizations and therefore many of them started to look for alternative what is the alternative for the International Community and also among the things that we have learned that the uh Western yeah Western uh countries led by the United States that uh their values that they claim have been destroyed they have destroyed their values by themselves when they stood next to the occupation forces
when they continued to arm when they continued to arm these genocidal despite the ICC despite the icj rulings they continued doing that so now how on Earth how on Earth anyone will believe in these Western values they have destroyed that and you know the American values at at one time people were fond of the American values they were talking about the American values and the Americans themselves destroyed those values that they have been working to establish for decades uh in one year they preferred to side with the Israeli occupation rather than to preserve their image
to preserve the vales that they have worked on and for for long time uh among the values that they have destroyed the so-called democracy because people have seen that the Israelis this occupation forces they don't know uh they they they they claim that they are the only Democratic country in the Middle East but their actions have proven that they are the fascist country in the Middle East this is something that we as Muslims learned and also non-muslims uh especially young people have learned as well uh among as I said we learned so many lessons among
the lessons that we have learned is that uh power power yeah Power does not protect your existence yes ma might might does it make it right right is might but it is not the opposite so is what do you mean by that yeah is thinks is thinks by power they can live yeah and they can they can build their own State and they can bring peace to their people Etc but it has been proven that yes despite the power they have and the technology they have they are unable to provide peace and security for their
own people the Israelis and the people who live in the so-called Israel yeah they don't feel secure until now after 70 plus years they thought that they have uh managed to secure a safe place for them but in reality we learned that they have failed in that also we have learned that uh that Subhan Allah as far as uh Muslims believe in Allah believe in Islam in general even if they are not that practicing people they still they still have very strong values and they still have very strong attachment to Ala they strong they still
believe in their right to resist the uh occupation so we have seen the younger children uh young people who were born you know in West Bank or even in Gaza but let us talk about young people who were born in West Bank during the occupation and the occupation thought that they are able to normalize with those people and those young people at one point they will accept their uh so-called Israeli Nar narrative but they were shocked to see that even those young people have rejected them and they are willing to resist this occupation these are
among the key lessons that we have learned yeahh I mean I was just thinking what would you what would people like 10 years from now 100 years from now in your opinion what would they be saying about this this period or this this event in human history see um well normally in general I'm not talking about this case normally history sides with the victors okay normally history sides with the victors and uh when when uh Victory comes even history overlooks the mistakes of the victors yeah but history which means that history SES against the losers
and even whatever the losers have done which which is correct yeah they will uh history will magnify it and uh start historians will start criticizing these activities even if they were right just because the uh they were carried out by the losers this is a very important point so sometimes uh history yeah is not fair okay I don't want to mention uh you know um what happened to Hitler and what happened in the second world war what happened to even the Ottoman Empire what happened to okay normally history yeah sides against the losers and history
starts to criticize them very uh very heavily okay now uh this is one thing we I am confident inshallah that at the end of this uh these atrocities Allah will grant Victory to the people of the truth and in this case the Palestinians the Muslim Palestinians uh it might take some time uh they might sacrifice more the whole umah might sacrifice more but at the end of the day I believe that inshallah they will be Victorious and history will start reading what happened according to uh that from that angle this is one point but from
the other point I believe that when um be irrespective of what will happen uh I think uh history will record that the entire world failed to stop this genocide which maybe uh which is the worst genocide that took place in the modern history I think uh I think because it has been documented and those live pretty much yes this documentation will not be lost easily so the coming generation ations will be at a shock yeah they will be shocked how on Earth the whole world witnessed these genocides the the the the these genocides or this
genocide taking place and no one was able to do anything uh to stop it and you know we have seen maybe that clip I'm sure you have seen it uh well when when uh the children are watching like the m is with their parents okay in in China in Europe Etc and the children will turn to their parents and will ask them did you do something why did you keep quiet why didn't you do something to stop that yeah and something like this so this you know this uh will happen this will happen and uh
it will be you know uh a dark page in uh the history of a Humanity that this genocide was taking place in a very small area uh you know again we keep saying that razza may be one quarter of London just one quarter of London and Subhan Allah it has the landscape of Gaza is just a flat Earth okay it doesn't have mountains it doesn't have you know uh Forest is not a huge land so uh the history will record that dark page that this uh this Zionist State supported by the uh the main superpower
in the world United State along with many other Western countries have put that small place uh under siege for decades and then at one point they decided to destroy them to kill them to Massacre them and the whole world is watching that the history also will record that between Gaza and an Arab country and a big Arab country like Egypt uh the the borders is maybe 80 M or in some places less than that and Egypt failed to even pass a bottle of water for the uh the Palestinians in fact it participated in putting the
Palestinians Under Siege history will record that yeah uh so and history also will record that uh many Muslim countries were celebrating different celebrations and as if there there is no atrocity just miles away from them they were singing dancing and as if no one is being massacred next to their uh door yeah Allah I mean you talk about Victory and what does Victory and defeat look like for either side in your opinion okay I saw I saw a video like a essay by I think it was the editor of Middle East eye and he said
Israel's already lost and uh you know the Palestinian gazan resistance already won because their aim was to exist to resist and as long as you do that you're Victorious and and the is the israeli's aim was to just wipe everyone out and they they they're still alive they're still resisting yeah see we can look at it from uh a micro perspective and a macro perspective okay now I always like to start with the macro perspective from a macro perspective I think the so-called Israel and if I say just Israel forgive me for that okay I
think they have uh started the end of their existence okay just simply look at it without much details do you think that Israel and the Israelis will be able to uh enjoy peace even if they manage to uh destroy the Palestinian resistance even if they manag to uh to win this war do you think that they are able to live in peace in the coming at least 20 30 years yeah even if they even if they get rid of every Palestinian in the world no one can no one's going to forget what's happening and they
coming off to theme themselves yeah they themselves see even the feeling of peace they lost it they lost it because they have seen what they even if they justify even if they justify they have seen that they have created animosity around them yeah in the whole Muslim world and they have seen the demonstrations they have seen the at least the moral support they are witnessing the social media so the inner peace they have lost it they have lost it and when a state is unable to provide the honor the inner peace for its uh its
inhabitant yeah then they have lost it and they the the the main the main factor for uh for stability of that state is lost which is what which is the uh inner peace the uh people uh the people have or the people lost uh see you wouldn't aler yesterday uh put forward a map yeah published a map of again so-called isra and the walls Isel have built around them to protect themselves walls High walls yeah between of course themselves and the uh razza between themselves and Egypt s and desert between themselves and Jordan even around
West Bank yeah even next to the borders of Lebanon and and Syria yeah so they and this apart from that they have established towers of uh towers of advanced technology to monitor the uh surrounding areas so this means that they are living in fear now the people there they will continue living in fear this means that the project the Zionist project have actually failed because they were hoping that they will be able to normalize with the surrounding countries they might be able to Norm normalize with the governments of the surrounding countries but they won't be
able to normalize with the people around them because uh the whole the the whole um the whole Muslim those countries have witnessed the massacres they have carried out yeah and and they will not forget that if they think that they will forget that uh I think they have fooled themselves so this is this is this is one thing the other thing okay it is impossible to wipe out the Palestinians if they wiped out the Palestinians in Gaza which is impossible yeah uh what about the Palestinians in West Bank what about Palestinians around the world here
we are talking about uh 7 to8 million Palestinians living in Exile and this genocide have uh resurrected their national uh feeling and their connection to Gaza yeah I am myself I am Palestinians I'm originally from razza what happened I was born in Saudi Arabia I have never felt connected to Gazza as I have felt now my children have never seen Gaza they were e born uh some of them they were born in uh in London and some of them were born outside uh they now they now think of Gaza they think of Palestine they think
of Al They think of their Roots as Palestinians despite the fact that they are British now but they are thinking of their roots and thousands of or maybe actually millions of Palestinians have resurrected this National feeling which is an Islamic feeling is not divorced from the Islamic feeling which leads me to the second point which is now Palestinians I can assure you from my you know my been a traveling here and there and meeting different people even the national Palestinians now now they have seen that uh the national the uh the national discourse nationalist yeah
no no sorry the the nationalism okay or national discourse is not sufficient for them to liberate their land and to resist the occupation and they believed strongly that they have to couple it with the Islamic with the Islamic uh discourse and this in of itself is a very Advanced uh stage and that's why uh the the the Palestinian resistance will become an Islamic resistance yeah and it will uh it will be endorsed by uh many factors of the Palestinians all over the world and and it will take different forms now they United them and also
it United them because theyve believe now that they have a goal which is what which is to be independent to free their land to have their own uh to have their own state to have their own country so so that in of itself yeah that in of itself uh is uh is not just one step towards Victory but actually it is 10 steps towards Victory and that's why as I said from a macro perspective from a macro perspective you cannot say that uh the the uh the Palestinians have lost even if the Israelis uh even
if the Israelis managed to wipe Gaza out and the West Bank uh out completely which is impossible now if if you want to speak about uh a micro perspective I really don't want to talk about micro perspective because the situation is very Dynamic okay uh on volatile changing all the time exactly volatile changing and uh you know even uh um even strategic experts in in uh military they are unable to prodict um to prodict a particular end for this war but what I feel is that uh the Palestinians because of their uh resistance uh there
and also they managed to do something which is really extraordinary uh in Palestine first of all they did not leave Gazza yeah they continued to resist they contined to be United they also managed to uh to reform whatever they can from the Civil Life you know so they started some schooling system they even rebuilt you know a shifa hospital that has been destroyed they have rebuilt some of the Departments of a shifa hospital uh they started to uh they started to clean certain areas even the occupation will come and destroy those areas again so they
started to uh to manage their civil okay life and that is so important for the uh for their resistance and for their existence and um and it is a matter of time see Palestinians we have to understand this Palestinians uh lived in in a state of War you can say for 70 plus years so they are used to this yeah unfortunately it's not myself because I never lived there but the Palestinians who lived in Raza and who are living in Raza and living in West they they have this nature which is to be resilience and
to continue resisting they have been living like this for the past 70 something years so they can call up uh with they can cope up with this and that's the the the uh that is that gives them fuel to continue yes and Allah they will be victorious yeah quite Deep Way say so Israelis have so-call Israelis have you know the the the thing you mentioned about Al jazer the the walls they built to protect um imprison others have become their own cage yes in a way and secondly they've they've galvanized the opposition they've galvanized the
Palestinian resistance Palestinian activist politicians even those that were you know closer to them they've pushed them away polarized and they've United the Palestinians all around the world now they they're kind of moving away from the kind of secular those that were secular kind of nationalistic types you're saying they understand now that they need the Islamic discourse they need an Islamic basis in fact not only Palestinians but okay you can say the Muslim um at large and in fact you uh we should not just limit that to the Muslim um at large but also also uh
many of the uh many of the non-muslims yeah uh yesterday we have seen or not yesterday a few days ago we have seen the American actor who was commenting on the uh burning of the tents of the Palestinians in yeah no no no the tents maybe in the hospital yeah nor north of Gaza so see see this this for me is a strategic defeat for the West yeah and that's why you know if we need to look at this genocide this war this conflict call it whatever you want to call it from a macro strategic
perspective when you lose confidence in your own values yeah and the West has lost confidence in its own values yeah then that is the end of your existence because you don't have values to live by and this model yeah this model which is uh which thinks that power military yes or even economy power is your uh your main uh platform for your existence that does not that does not provide the infrastructure for a civilization to continue existing because this civilization it will kill itself by itself because it lost confidence in its own values so I
am really uh I'm really surprised and I am really shocked how uh Americans in particular yeah Americans preferred see America has defeated itself now yeah America preferred to lose its uh Heritage yeah in one year because of the support it gave to Israel so they preferred yeah to Aid Israel over their uh over their Victory themselves or over their preservation of Their Own uh civilization yeah that's why it is actually the start of the defeat of this American you know era yes no doubt that they are militarily economically yeah they are in control of the
whole world but that you know physical uh militant or military power and economy power if it is not standing on solid foundation of values it will crumble very quickly and I'm really shocked that the American thinkers have accepted that their country to do that similarly here in Britain yeah similarly it is the the the the the case in Britain and even some other Western countries Germany in particular but maybe someone might say say that Germany doesn't come across as a as a superpower as a civilization but it is part of the western it is part
of the western you know uh Buble yeah yeah so this is what is happening actually what is happening is uh shocking the whole world and it is actually restructuring the whole world and and this leads me to a point a very important point which is I think now it is uh a very golden opportunity for us as Muslims to come across and to present Islam as an alternative civilization yeah but so I mean so we talked about the west and obviously you you by West you mean people in power not like the everyday person like
you and me but like the the dominant um kind of values or lack of values uh in in that are animating Western policy that's that's kind of exposed itself as failure and and and crumbled and kind of in it because of its support for the genocide and its its cover for genocide and so forth but the Muslim world hasn't been doing um much better and I mean hasn't been actively obviously responsible for genocide but many people would say Muslim countries have failed what's your vision on that what's what's your your this is a very good
point this is a very good point but here see don't no one has ever uh spoken about the Muslim world as you know as a world that can bring Justice to to the world we all know that the Muslim world is just Muslim by name we all know that most of the Muslim countries are corrupted countries we all know that most of the Muslim leaders political leaders are puppet of the uh Western homy we all know that no one has ever one superpower another yeah yeah no one has ever relied on the Muslim Muslim War
no one has ever expected something different we all know that they are either they are cowed leaders okay we are talking about governments here again either they are cowed or they are helpless or they are very weak very weak they cannot do anything and we all know that they are disunited yes and they cannot come to together and that's why to be honest with you I stopped talking about Muslim uh Muslim should be United and doing this and that because it will receive deaf you know de uh people the the de deaf ears and uh
we will just waste our time talking about the Muslim leaders should do this and that let us focus on what we can do yes as uh as the the the masses okay Muslims all over the world the masses yeah what's your message to the of the Muslims in the Muslim world and outside the Muslim world yeah see this is the are the leaders of the Muslim yeah and when Allah says as the scholars have said mentioned this in his and many others that actually the political leadership and the as well yeah the are the leaders
of the umah now the political leadership of the umah as we said is has lost it uh is failing and we are not expecting anything from them but the should not fail took the Covenant from the people of the book this includes the of this that they should disclose the H they should stand for the h they should fight for the h yes do you think that's happening more or less than it was 12 months ago now uh so the it is happening is very difficult to evaluate but what we say that alhamdulillah the vast
majority of the scholars of the umah stood with the H with different levels obviously we know that some scholars in some Muslim countries cannot speak about Palestine cannot just speak about Palestine let alone making Dua for the Palestinians let alone uh pushing their countries to support the Palestinians they cannot do that because of the political situation in in their country but generally speaking what should they do then but okay just before that generally speaking the they were okay uh generally speaking they were doing a good job sometimes it is not as they uh could have
done we have to admit that because uh because unfortunately all what they can do is just uh uh talking about the situation encouraging the Muslim um to do something encouraging the leadership of the Muslim um to do something unfortunately and it is very sad that we as I am one of them is unable or disabled from doing something that is tangible yeah um it is this is very unfortunate but that doesn't mean that we cannot we cannot uh or we should uh stop or we that that doesn't mean that we should not continue doing the
maximum that we can do on a political level lobbying putting pressure on uh governments encouraging the umah motivating the umah empowering the umah to do something and this is the most important thing for us as people of knowledge or people of Da to do because people listen to the we have the uh the spiritual influence over people so we have to continue doing that we should also now it is the time to uh to be more united in order to be able to unite the umah in of itself maybe we need now to come up
with a different discourse that will uh that will be uh that will work for us better future for our Muslim um we need to encourage we need ourselves to do that and we need to encourage Muslims to be more active in dawa because as I always say that it is a very golden opportunity for us Muslims to do dawa uh now the whole world is looking for Islam as an alternative not just from a spiritual perspective but from a civilizational perspective this is our opportunity we also need to continue uh putting pressure on the leadership
of the Muslim um we should continue doing that we should not stop doing that but we should not just uh think that this is the only thing that we can do because we know uh the uh the political leadership of the umah uh and what they can uh do yeah do do you think that even if the Muslim leaders were or there were more Brave Muslim leaders um that were that did you know have that allegiance to the umah to the H to justice is that what do you think they could have done or what
should they be doing yeah this is this is a good question this is a good question I mean I feel that like everyone else why aren't they doing something they should be doing something but then I think well what are they supposed to do I mean okay yeah see how can yeah this is a good question maybe it is not a practical question yeah but uh okay see they can do a lot first me for I mean the reason I ask for example people can actually give them in terms of their lobbying they could say
look we as the people we demand that you we ask nicely if that you that you do this or you do that you know because people might just say oh it's either go all out war or do absolutely nothing so they'll say well we don't want to go to war yeah yeah in between there there are so many things that can be done yeah of course of course if we are living in an ideal situation yeah they should have you know uh they should have supported the people of Palestine from a military perspective effective because
this is a protected right yeah even by the international law because now razza is being occupied and razza has been attacked if in an ideal situation this should not have happened okay but leave the ideal situation because people say well we are too far from the ideal situation and that's why we say that what we need we need a Muslim uh we need a strong Muslim uh country yeah that also is uh strong from a political perspective within the United Nations and that's why the whole world now should think of the current United Nations setup
that the whole world is controlled by the five veto uh countries yeah um the whole world is stuck with that and this I am appealing now to the young people to start marching demanding for restructuring the United Nation otherwise these atro atrocities will continue now it is taking place against people in Gaza later on it will uh it might take place in another part of the world maybe in IND India in China in Russia in America itself and no one can do anything because these countries okay except except India they have the V to right
and no one can stop them from committing any genocide or any atrocity as simple as this okay so the whole world that's why we need a new structure for the whole world so let us leave the idealistic situation but if there were strong Muslim countries relatively we're not talking about again the ideal idealistic situation immediately they could have what kicked yeah and closed any uh political uh embassies and ambassades yes uh any political presence of the Zionist State this is number one they should have boycott all exports to that Zionist State unfortunately many Muslim countries
they were still and they are still exporting some Goods to the Zionist State yeah uh so this they could have done this they could have sent uh Aid to Gaza yes when the people of Gaza they need to survive they need to live before uh before uh this atrocity Gaza was under siege but it used to receive between 800 and 1,000 trucks yeah on a daily basis to you know for the the the for the people to survive now what they receive is just 100 Trucks Only yeah and sometimes even the those 100 trucks they
don't reach okay on time and they don't reach everywhere in Gaza so if there were Muslim Muslim countries this wouldn't happen yeah then if there was strong Muslim countries they will exercise po political pressure on uh in the United Nations on Israel uh on America itself yeah they could have a few Muslim countries they could have come together and they could have done something regarding the global economy yeah with exporting oil Etc and then America will uh will will will take the matter seriously yeah uh there are there are so many things that can be
done really yeah yeah so in terms of why they're not done do you think that's something that and you mean you you travel to lots of countries lots of Muslim countries you meet lots of and masses different countries do you think that there's no like the the problem is with the general Muslim um in those areas where they're not they're not demanding it from their um their leaders to their governments to do this kind of maybe yeah maybe this needs another podcast where we talk about the key problems of the um and there are internal
problems and there are external problems among the key uh problems of the um is the political leadership of the um there is no doubt that the political leadership of the umah is a hindrance yeah okay to its reform to its growth yeah to its success there is no doubt about that yeah mhh okay and that's my be that might be the subject of another podcast yeah yeah definitely we need to think about that so in terms of which is a road map to reform yeah yeah what what's your what's the post Israel plan yeah we
see that look in any in any case whatever happens the the the status quo cannot be um can cannot be kept right is so-called Israel the Zionist are hemorrhaging support International support their economy is in tats their neighbors all hate them you know it's only a matter of time until inshallah the this last European colony in the Middle East is dissolved and and something else comes about just like happened in the rest of the countries there just like happened in South Africa or Rhodesia or you know countries pop in and out of existence it doesn't
mean they get you know all the people get killed or you know they attach Rockets to it and it goes into out space no country is just you know a socially a social political construct what what would you say if we think now in terms of macro level what comes next yeah Allah is very difficult to predict but what I think what should come next yeah what I think is that Israel will exist for some time as a very weak entity yeah and uh that weakness will uh will speed up its end yeah this is
this is Allah what will happen uh inshallah the they will be defeated in uh this genocide inshallah they will be defeated once they are are defeated then they will exist for some time as as a very weak State and this might speed up their end now if Allah of course in strategic thinking and I always like to follow that model uh that you need to give uh to to uh consider all options if they were victorious in this genocide uh by for example how they become Victorious let us say that they managed to uh free
uh their prisoners or called so-called hostages and they uh managed to control Gaza again to occupy Gazza again yeah if that happened uh again that might be uh a victory for them from a short perspective but it will not be a victory for them from a long perspective yeah from a strategic perspective because of what we have said in the beginning of this uh podcast yeah but eventually when it you know I think many people would agree that eventually this is is doomed to failure what happens next I mean we don't want I'm assuming we
don't want just another whatever the the you know the other kind of neighboring states or or many of the Muslim countries today to just kind of pop up there is there any thinking that's happening by you know from the the scholars the policy makers in the region and outside the region people with with you know a lens looking at the region of what could be and what we can do in order to make a good outcome for the whole umah you know once once this is is dismantled yeah this is maybe this is again a
subject of another Pro podcast sorry because it is a long discussion show so so is not any maybe uh feasible to discuss it at the end of this episode yeah okay just got one last question what are you worried about in other words what should we avoid going forward now this is a very good question yeah to stop being resilient to stop resisting see as far as you are resisting in any form of resistance you will be victorious yeah as far as the Muslim um is resisting and not giving up yeah they will never be
defeated we will be defeated as a Muslim um and in particular as Palestinians if we give up that's why that's why my key message to this scholors the imams the uh the Muslim masses to the activist don't ever give up don't ever give up yes this includes giving up don't be weak don't be saddened don't lose it okay because you are superior as far as you are what you are believers and as we said Allah says two conditions which is what resilience and ta you will be but you will be victorious alhamdulillah the Muslim um
is going back to Allah yes and religiousity of the Muslim um is increasing we need now to continue as an umah and as Palestinians in particular to continue resisting yes and inshallah inshallah we will be victorious if we have these two conditions on that point Thank you for joining us sorry for taking so much of your time but want to get get this uh you know one year kind of uh on update your thoughts uh and messages going forward to you for that and to you at home for watching if you like this podcast as
usual give a like and a share let us know in the comments below what you think and obviously if you want to see that part two from sheam let us know in the comments as well and we can push him to give a a followup about a road map to reform the umah how to strengthen the umah and revive uh this this civilization and and including the Muslim majority world so until next time