From $0 To $29,073/mo In 6 Months (Full Beginner’s Guide)

I don't have any advantage a special skill but I can work really freaking hard this is Patrice myr a 22-year-old college drwb that's making 30k a month after quitting her job 6 months ago to go all in on in this episode you'll learn how you can follow in her footsteps even if you're starting from scratch I literally had nothing to show for it no results no business no clients nothing her exact blueprint you can copy To get the 30k a month I learned this in 6 months and I can teach it to somebody else in

6 months and so brutally honest hot takes for beginner entrepreneurs that you're probably not expecting first off I would tell myself check it out what is the reality of working 16 our days at age 22 I think I'm like addicted to it a little bit like I took a walk yesterday and I it felt so wrong I was like I should be like and then I wound up calling my brother who's working with Me and like giving him like what the plan of action was I'm like I can't even go for a walk without thinking

about work but I just love it so much it's like all I think about and I know it's just like a chapter and so I'm more than willing to like just go really really hard right now I just really love going all in with something I'm kind of like an obsessive personality so like I just became obsessed with copyrighting and that's what it looked like 16 hours a Day was there ever a point where you weren't working hard you weren't get news results yeah I think I heard this quote from Alex Heros and it was

like the hardest working entrepreneurs are also the laziest people when they don't have something to work towards and I was like oh good okay so I can still be an entrepreneur cuz I like when I I started an e-commerce brand at 19 and then when that wasn't working out and I decided to Pivot I didn't have something to Pivot To so it it's like Alex mosy videos reading like a book A Week like just basically like taking in as much information as possible and feeling productive but also knowing that I wasn't actually applying it so

you were the classic beginner entrepreneur that was just consuming all this content you had the the motion of busyness but you weren't actually taking any action exactly right so what flipped how did you become this action taking machine I Think I just found like little projects that I could go all in so first it was the podcast and I would stay up till like 2: a.m. editing my episodes and I knew that that wasn't High leverage and it I had no audience and it wasn't going to make a huge difference but I was like I

just wanted to work and so I found these little things I could get passionate about and the podcast led to me like building a little bit of a network which you know then led me to School and you know I found Ted and so every little thing that I got super like hyper focused on would lead to the next thing and I think I just had this faith that like if I put in the hours and kind of just threw enough mud against the wall something was going to stick and I know that's not everyone's

like kind of mindset towards it but I just knew that if I was putting in enough action somewhere there was going to be an output what give you the courage or even The idea it's like yeah I'm just going to full sand this and do crazy volume of ARS I think it was more like fear of like working a 9 to-5 I just knew that like no matter what I didn't want to do that there was like no alternative to me that it was like entrepreneurship or like I'll be broke so take us back to

February you're making zero dollar you quit your job you decid to go all in on business M what did you do and how did you get Set up on the path yeah it was terrifying I didn't tell too many people in my life what I was doing but um I decided to quit my job because my mom actually said something to me and my mom was super like when I dropped out of college she was not happy about it but I was talking to her about my podcast back last fall and she said something I

was living at home she was like when are you ever have a better opportunity just go all in with something like if you're Going to take a risk you're living at home you have no expenses do it now and Sh like the mom yeah and I even I think at the time I like didn't even listen to her I was like that's my mom's advice yeah but it stuck in my head it was such a strong thing that she'd said and I realized like if I didn't quit my job then I was it was just

going to be the same thing I've been doing for like 3 years and so I put in my two weeks notice with nothing lined up just an Idea of like I'll make something work with like social media or something and um that's when I heard about school was like literally a couple days before my last day of work bro the universe just showed up literally you put yourself out there it's like I need an opportunity to go all in on something and then how did you find out about school um so I saw Alex for

MOS post like 20 minutes after he posted it couple minutes later I had a school Account and then I think I looked up on YouTube how to start a school community and Ted car came up only video I could find was like Ted and Max so yeah immediately like went and looked both of them up and wound up getting on a sales call of Ted's team and then a couple weeks later I was in his program how much did you pay for the program $1,000 so that was when he was going for the games ,000

for someone who just quit their job MH and was making zero Money yeah for the scapic listening like why the hell did you do that I I feel like it there's another I'm just going to keep referring back to Alex rosi there's another quote I heard I'm saying it was like you like continue to do actions you form habits based on like what you Reed for and I I just always felt like I've been rewarded for taking risk like I quit my job and I found school I like made a podcast and like met some

really cool people like I Invested even the e-commerce business that didn't work out like I learned so much it took me from being like a total introvert who wouldn't even like leave her house on a Friday night to see friends and like doing that to then like going and networking with people like across the country flying alone to business events and I was just like looking back at every risk I'd taken and as scary as it was to like quit my job like everything just seemed to be like a Requirement it was like it it

like and obviously you're a Believer too and I feel like when you show that faith that like you you step out and you're like this is how bad I want this I'm willing to risk it all because I believe that this is my purpose that's when you're rewarded with it you got to get out of the boat to figure out if you can walk on water yeah I love that so let let's do a quick breakdown okay because I think this is interesting because so so Often if you're a beginner you see these guys making

you know 100 million you see people like avelyn making 250 50k a month you see people making 100K a month you see people like you making 30k a month let's actually show the path right so February you're making zero how much did you make in March March I made 2K okay roughly April how much did you make in April zero did you make zero in April bro we get into that I might have made like a $100 oh that's perfect I actually Didn't know that that's awesome okay so may may I made about $1,500 okay

June 10K sheesh July July was about the same as as June and then August 30k which is when you pushed for the school games and you won M Okay cool so what happened in March that allowed you to make 2K so your first dollars yeah so I was super honest on the sales call with Ted that like I didn't have a skill that I could Market or an offer or anything I could really coach on and I told him like what I'd done and we were just trying to figure out like how to create an

offer around that and I think like I every time he told me to do something I just did it immediately and I would send him like like how I did it and what I was and what questions I was running into and at the time I didn't really realize that that I was doing anything normal but I think he saw that like this is someone that was taking action and so he shot me a message probably a week into The program and he was like hey do you know how to write and I think at

the time I had just started writing in my diary again yeah I write multiple times per day I was like I was like yeah I've recently gotten really into writing again oh that's so funny and I had no no idea like how to write a piece of marketing and so but like Ted could have asked me if I could build a skyscraper and I would have been like yeah and then I would have watched a YouTube video and figured it out and so that was how that project kind of started he was like well I'm

working on um it was like a book at the time and an FAQ and so I wound up writing like 200 pages in 30 days and that was a 2K job and um yeah that was the start of copyrighting that is such an overlooked thing the belief that you can just figure it out cuz so many people opportunity will come literally knocking on their door Can you write no I don't know how to write and guess what the opportunity does just goes on to the next person what would you say to the beginner listening that

has that mindset well like if you look at any successful person it's it's all learned and most of them are selftaught or they just got like it had to start with them teaching themselves something even if they got connected to an incredible Mentor they there's nobody that was born That way there's nobody that was even born confident like that's learned I spent so long thinking like there was introverts and extroverts and extroverts were confident and introverts were shy and I was an introvert so I had to be shy and then like when I started my

first business and I had to network and I was going to the events I had to like really break out of my shell like I was really really bad when I was in high school I didn't talk to anyone I ate Lunch at the nurse's office I skipped school as much as possible I just hated interaction like it was bad anyone you know that's shy like I guarantee I was more shy and and so there was this 2-year process where I just had to learn how to be confident and then I think that made me

realize like everything is learned and so if there's anything that like if you have an opportunity in front of you especially if it's like with an entrepreneur that's willing to help you And Mentor you like it's just the fake it till you make it right like you have to just be willing because like what's the worst thing that's going to happen like you can learn anything on YouTube and if you mess up they're going to be more impressed with the fact that you tried and you probably didn't ask questions you just tried to solve the

problem yourself and failed because they went through that too like especially if you're talking to an entrepreneur like They respect that a lot when you're willing to fail and so yeah I think that's what I would say is it's just like be willing to fail it is inevitable it is required and yeah the faster you get over that the faster you'll grow yeah and let's take the example of the first project you did with Ted what's the worst possible thing that could have happened you invest all this time you do all the work and he

hates it it sucks you're a terrible writer and you to Refund the money MH or you lose part of the money or whatever yeah okay cool you've made a mistake not next month you can just go again and try something else and you have a new skill now you learn something Bango Bango and it was really bad actually the project they did for Ted was terrible the first draft it was so bad I think I wrote it like these chunky paragraphs and I remember Ted was like let's get on a call like he couldn't even

send me the edits like on A message we got on a call and he just goes through and he's editing it with me like line by line writing it like copy so it's like each line is a paragraph and I was like that is not what I was taught in English class and so it was really bad the first version but I like I just remember like I was spending all these hours learning it and and like every edit he made I was like taking note of it so I could apply it to the Future

writing that I was doing and yeah This is the genius thing right so Warren Buffett one of the richest guys in the world one of his famous things he's known for is earn to learn when you're young and you got paid money to have someone to show you how to write yeah and that's not an anomaly that's not like oh Patrice locked out and she got so lucky that's like no no no like when you're a beginner and someone gives you anything they're paying you to learn the skill yeah and so you're able to learn

That skill and now you have a skill and that's the skill as we'll get to that has ended up making you 30k month yeah there was this saying I think um somebody told me like when I was 19 or 20 I was just getting started entrepreneur entrepreneurship they were like any opportunity you get and they're like just take this at face value don't question it any opportunity you get to get around an entrepreneur to go to an event anything you get invited to say Yes just say yes to everything and I think so many people

like think that they have so much more value on their time than they do like getting started you have your time is is really valueless and so I recognized that I was like I can go to Every networking event every conference every party I get invited to where there might be an entrepreneur and I was just like putting myself in those scenarios and so like when I heard of Ted and I was like okay There's this cool opportunities running this promotion for the school games like I me like it was any opportunity I got I

was just like like I'm there it's actually I really loved how we kind of the month-by-month breakdown something that I'd love to do sometime is like break out even for like me or for other people it's like your early invoices so like whenever I decide I want a job I'm going to pursue entrepreneurship my first jobs were the weirdest things like Some Russian DJ in New York paid me to go and scrape street art off the walls what like I delivered burritos on bicycles oh go you I mean I did like I did Big copyrighting

projects for like 50 Quid M and you just learning you're like acquiring new skills and like you meet new people and then you just go and the invoices get bigger and the work gets more interesting you figure out what you want to do and then you get more specialized you're like oh I know I Have an offer let me do this and like I'm going to optimize my offer and then now I have a product and now it like makes more sense and I can like approach people but you have to start with those early

few jobs but I feel like so many people are so afraid and also just really impatient about that first step they want the 10K a month not they want it right now yeah and they're not prepared to do the $50 invoice yeah do you know I mean to do the 2K project That you probably had to go and re-edit the crap out of MH yeah yeah I watched every piece of content that he had and transcribed it and turned it into a book but I think like yeah like what you said like I I worked

as like an interior designer once just setting up lights for this lady's Airbnb like I did so many random things and it's it's funny cuz like I would always assume the identity after one job I started calling myself an interior One project with Ted I'm a copywriter like immediately like assuming that identity and I think that's powerful too cuz your words are so influential in like your own perception everyone else's perception and just like creating that as a reality yeah well what is an entrepreneur entrepreneur someone who gets paid to do something what is a

copywriter someone who gets paid to write right so the second that that money hits your bank account so Congratulations you are an entrepreneur and you are a copywriter mhm I love how you took that identity that identity ended up being very powerful mhm so you do the project with Ted you that already you kind of get a return on your investment so you get 1K and you start getting some work what did the next month look like what sort of stuff did you end up doing I contined to I stayed in the program invested another

,000 so that was break even now with the Project i' done in the investment um then I invested another $1,000 to go meet Ted in person and went to one of his networking events you double D oh yeah I was like I'm all in now and um and like I'm just using savings at this point like I I had no income really and so I think the next thing I did was I reached out to the network of entrepreneurs that ID built just by going to like these networking dinners and stuff and I started doing

like Really low pay kind of like what you were saying like low paid I wrote some emails for this guy who had a power washing business really doesn't need email marketing and I think I charged them like $150 and helped them with some Facebook ads helped them with some some emails and yeah and then I as I was going to these networking events people would ask me what do you do and at the time I had no Goal to be a copywriter but it was the only thing i' had done so I just called the

only identity you had to grab like I'm a copywriter literally like I I was like okay like this is what we're going with for now it sounds better than unemployed and broke and a little more specific than I'm an entrepreneur exactly yeah and I just needed something and so then I'm at all these business events introduced myself as that and people Were asking like oh like what kind of copy do you write and that was what led to a lot of just like organic leads like people were like oh cool like I need emails I

need copy and I think it was May I remember somebody being like what do you charge and like like what do you charge for like emails and i' only like watched like one or two copyrighting videos and this guy Cardinal Mason you're familiar with himh I heard him say that you start at 3K so that was the Only number that I knew and I was just like oh well I start at 3K and the guy is standing there and he's just like okay cool and he connected me he became a c and connected me to

another client holy smoke just straight off the bat so that was then June became my 10K month um but yeah so that is the power of just like assuming that identity was like for sure and I think something that's really important to underline as well Is if you're a beginner you don't understand how business owners think and how they operate and how they work business owners are usually making more money in a month than you can possibly imagine and what is their one goal it's to make more money and grow their business M if they

meet some random person who they can pay a hundred bucks on like a little random experiment that might lead to them making 500 bucks or making nothing or making 100 bucks most Entrepreneurs will take that punt especially if you say they need something you know I've been thinking about you know doing something on Facebook for a while I've been thinking about emails like you know I listen to a podcast and I haven't had time to do it maybe you're the person that I'm looking for and so you can just become a solution to somebody's problem

and then they give you money for it yeah just problem solving and 3K felt like all the Money in the world you then oh yeah and for these dudes I bet you it was like they didn't even think about it it's just their marketing budget yeah yeah and probably a small portion of it mhm so why did you make $0 the month before your 10K month yeah so well may I think I made like $1,400 so I made I made a little bit of money and that was when I first started started like selling on

school so my first sale was in May and um and the month before that was when I In April I made $ Z so I made the 2K with Ted and then I was still just trying to figure figure out my offer I had like a general business school Community trying to teach every kind of business in the world bro I remember that schoolers yes you were in the merch you were in the community you had school shoes I like who is this woman you you just had like said that yeah I just left home

y I bought a oneway plane ticket I was like who is this psycho Goopa and you know what's funny that was June so that was my first 10K month but I booked that ticket before I'd made any sales in June wow I was like I'm going to move out when I hit 10K and then June came and I was like it's going to be this month and just for proof by the way like I'll literally put up on screen right now like we did an interview whenever you just had hit your first 10K and it

was really interesting like if you're connecting with patrice's story And you want to go back and like look at The Archives and see how her thinkings changed how her offers changed how what your students changed just go back and watch that video because that was you really raw in the moment like literally had just made 10K a month yeah and now already you've tripled that in a short space of time but I think it's really important to kind of leave the breadcrumbs and show how it actually works cuz like we said at the top of

the Show there's so much mysticism anyway keep going yeah yeah it's it's crazy even to look back like three months ago cuz I think like what you were you were talking about before with like the crazy amount of work like that's just a way to condense that like personal growth cuz now I look back at myself 6 months ago and I'm like oh like she was so little it was so it was such like a different I was a totally different person it was such like a different like Mindset that I had and like gosh

like I was I was always like setting big goals I remember like telling like one of my friends last summer I was like this is going to be my first million year boom I was making no money and they laughed at me and I was really offended but I had no like 30k I couldn't even comprehend that but I was still saying like these crazy numbers I was still like yeah I'm going to be a millionaire next year and like that is so powerful and it's just So long as that doesn't take the place of

you actually doing the work because it does feel really good to say those things and to talk I hear people talk really big sometimes but then not back it up so backing that up if you combine that like you speak really big things and then you back it up with a really big work ethic you're just going to accelerate that personal growth and it's really interesting the tone that you use to describe yourself 6 months ago oh I Was so little like I was so that's the tone that Granny's use to talk about themselves whenever

they're 20 and you used it to describe yourself 6 months ago but the reason you did is because you've lived a whole lifetime of work in these six months like you've done more work in 6 months than most people watching do in 3 years and you've went all in and you've committed and you've focused it's not distracted it's not like you got a job In jaip pootle and then you quit and then you like drove Uber for a while and then you quit and it's like you were dialed in one thing one thing one offer

one channel Y and so the reason why you've been able to have all these years of progress in such a short space of time like we're not trying to sell anybody this dream idea that entrepreneurship is super easy it comes really fast overnight success it's like that's just been proven it's not the Case like I just want to pause and say Patrice did this you did this because of the work that you put in let's do a little bit of little bit of hustle for a second what does the typical day look Lu for you

it's changed a lot recently so since going for the school games so the last like 60 days I guess or the last like 45 days I wake up around like 5 or 6 a.m. CU I usually have some I'm I still have a calendar set up for like people in New York so it's 9:00 a.m in New York 6:00 a.m. in California so I usually have a couple calls like really early and I'm I still take all my Discovery calls so I'll have like a couple Discovery calls and then I have like a a chunk

of time when those calls usually finish sometimes I don't have calls but if I don't then there's just this work phase until 9:00 a.m. and then I get on a call with the one person I have on my team this awesome woman who was a student of Mine and she's now writing for me and so we just do co-working for an hour and that's how I've trained her without like slowing down my own work and so we'll get on a call SM so you guys will write together mhm oh Tad style edit it live and

then just mute ourselves and like the student becomes the teacher I love it everything I do it goes back to like Ted Max yeah it's and and so that'll be like 9: to 10:00 a.m. which is an hour um and then it's usually like either a Client call or just writing I mean most my day is writing so whether it's designing graphics for an about page putting the copy in there writing emails and welcome series um going through and just editing like other work that this woman Olga has done or other work that I've done

um and then there's at least like I would say an hour of just like communication like going through my school DMs communic like sending messages back probably another hour Sending looms back to clients reviewing stuff with students because I still have like copyrighting students um and so that'll be like a couple more hours I usually have lunch around like two and then and I have one meal a day to optimize my time so it's all like it's all very optimized um mad lifestyle we've all been there what is it like four stakes and eggs it's

an Assa EO actually Assa eow and like gluten-free banana bread or something that's my Combo and then I have some type of protein so like eggs or something so it's like a good amount of food but um yeah so then from that'll be like an hour of just like usually I watch content during while I'm eating so like I watch Like a podcast one of your podcasts or I'll watch some my clients's content to like kind of plan their email series or whatever um and then I usually have like a work period for like the

afternoon to the evening um evening Maybe around like 6 or 7 I'll take like an hour long break and that's like my break of the day I'll decompress and then I'll get back to work until like 10: or 1100 p.m. wow so 6:00 till 10: yeah how long have you been in enough for um well probably on and off for the last 6 months but consistently every single day no breaks for the last like 45 days mhm um but yeah I I don't remember the last time I took a day off Mhm so yes this

is s days a week as well yeah yep so again for someone listening they're like what the hell that's a lot why have you done this and why are you continuing to do this in this season of your life you're 22 a lot of women your age they're going to baly they're chilling they're maybe going going to college or finishing their college it's like why have you dedicated this season of your life to this Insanity level of Work there's like this analogy I'd love to like use to illustrate this so like when I was a

kid I was like always the kid that wanted to like save I would save my dessert and eat that last and I would eat it super slowly and I was always like I would always eat like the veggies first and if I had chores I would always do the chores before like whatever whatever I wanted to do and so I think there's that like delayed gratification mindset but also like I Just have this like need to see what I'm capable of and to like like I just feel like almost like a responsibility and not to

like inflate like whatever I do but there's just I know that there's something I was given that I have to give back and that it's it's not a negotiable it's not mine and so I think there's that sense of responsibility of like I owe something to the world and so that combined with like I got started entrepreneurship fairly young not as Young as some of the people I'm meeting now um but I think guy I always had in my head I was like wow like I'm like like when I was 19 I was like I'm

like 19 I'm like talking to these like 27y olds so like if they got started at 25 like where could I be by the time I'm 21 and I was like always like doing the math and I was like how ahead can I get and so there's like I think that combination with just like the the love that I've developed for the hard work And like also the combination of like setting goals that are always Out Of Reach like there's never I don't think there'll ever be a point where I'm like okay I've made it

like it's it's all just about like how how much more can I do how much further can I take this the money is completely irrelevant hasn't even said in it I actually don't want to look at my bank account because I don't even want to know which is probably a bad thing I probably should get an Account but I just like don't I don't even like the money is meaningless that's why I'm like I was processing payments through stripe the other day because I upsold some clients and I was like but like it's not contributing

to my status on school like it's all become so gamified to me yeah yeah yeah so um yeah I think I think like it's really at this point just like playing the game of business and always like setting these unachievable goals to continue like Moving the goal post yeah I read a book on the plane on the way here and this is the second time I'm quoting Buffett I'm not a huge War Buffett guy something I'm want to pretend to be and so Warren Buffett's worth maybe like 85 billion somewhere around there and when Warren

Buffett was 65 he had only made like 5 billion wow how old is he now he's like in his 80s wow and so much of Buffett's success is just because he's been doing It for so long and there's like a classic again I'm not an investor I'm not pretending to be but it's like time in the market beats your timing in the market and they were basically analyzing like there's way more successful investors than Buffett like way more successful if you look at their ual returns and stuff but Buffett started when he was like 11

wow and so he's just had all this time to get the experience to get the Lessons and then to benefit from the compounded interest MH and I feel like that's the opportunity you have being so young and being an entrepreneur combined with the amount of ARS is it just gives you like all this experience and you're invest in your early into get in the head almost yeah yeah and it's just like it's it's addictive like once you have one win I think that's like the key is like that first sale that first win that first

bit Of like reinforcement like if you just fight to get that now you're hooked like whether you change your offer or you completely pivot your business model like that one win is the hardest to get and it's the most powerful one yeah and that's where it all starts and then it just then you can decide if you like the game but you got to get that first win first it's like playing Mario you got to complete the first level mhm yeah you know and then if you enjoy it then why Not do the next level

it's so interesting I love what you said where you just feel like you have this desire to prove yourself to yourself MH there's this quote from maslo he's the guy that made the hierarchy of needs and it goes something like whatever you can be you must be God didn't give Birds wings for them to walk along on the ground and I think that there's something about knowing deep inside yourself that you're Capable of more mhm that I think a lot of us want to try to unlock and want to express in the world it's like

the happiest I think most people ever be is like when they're in like the hunt like when they're in the game and I think I I I remember like telling somebody that like 6 months ago when I literally had nothing to show for it no results no business no clients nothing not even offer and I was like I just have a feeling like one day I'm Going to look back at these times and those are going to be the times like it still gives me chills I'm like those are going to be the times I

look back on and like those are the best of times and like you hear people say that a lot like once they've achieve achieved something and so I think that's probably it was just me like repeating that but I genuinely recognized that like in that grind with no results those were still the best of times like that was that was Like the time I was going to look back and like Miss yeah and I think when you look at it like that and you look at like the work as like a privilege it just completely

flips the script in your mind and then you can you can just go all in and be willing to make those sacrifices which are going to look different for everyone yeah but it's like you literally described earlier we look back on our early stages like a parent looks at their child like with That element of Pride and that element of joy and that element of wow like great job kiddo mhm and it's so interesting there's a lot of talk about exponential growth in 10x and one of my favorite entrepreneurs on the planet is a guy

called Dan Sullivan and he has a thing where you know we all have 10x in our life multiple times and you know I've got two daughters one's four and one's one if I look at my one-year-old it's like she can't talk yet mhm and in The span of two years she's going to T ax her language capability you know just a few months ago she couldn't walk she's txed her movement capability she's 10x the speed she can get from here to that door you know or my oldest it's like she just learned how to ride

her bicycle she's 10x her movement speed again we do this constantly throughout our lives and every single person who's listening to this they can look back and say oh yeah I remember when my income Was $5 an hour when I was doing chores for my granny yeah and you can see how you've exponentially grown yeah and you can do it again and even if your income like let's say like you're in my scenario where you just quit your job and your income is like less than what it was 2 months ago or something you can

look at your mindset and be like what are the horizons and the standards that I measure myself on now cuz if you're growing and you're getting around Successful people which is number one key to like success is like get around successful people which is why school is so awesome um but if you're doing that like your standards are just going to increase like the the numbers you measure success by are going to increase and I think there's like there is this time I was setting up a podcast with this guy who's um he's like an

info product businessman I don't know exactly what his business was but I remember I Was compiling these courses for my original School Community where I just wanted a bunch of entrepreneurs to teach how they' made their first, and so we were communicating via email and there was a little bit of a language barrier he was based in China and so I explained to him I wanted this to be like a course on how to teach kids or how kids could make their first thousand online and we get on the call and he created this whole

presentation and it was how to Make your first $100,000 online wow and he just like misunderstood the number and I was like oh I'm thinking too small like and it was geared towards total beginners it's like how to make your first $100,000 with an info product and it was just like like a reminder that like those things like change like that's such a good measurement of growth to like look at like what what kind of numbers did you think in last year what goals did you set and now how how are You thinking differently and

how are you thinking bigger and that's like the best metric because if you're thinking bigger you're setting bigger standards you have you know a higher requirement for yourself of like what a good day looks like and what a good amount of output is that's what's going to create the results yeah cuz you think back to the first you know one of the first big ticket products you sold 3K for one month you know make 30k a Month and you thought that 3K was massive and now you're like oh bro that's like 10% of my like

monthly recurrent Revenue mhm you're literally living it in real time yeah it doesn't feel real at all like meeting the other school Games winners and like like as much as like the identity thing is so key it's crazy cuz like so many people have asked me like what's it like now like make 30k and I'm like I don't know like I really just still feel like so Like inadequate sometimes when I'm like meeting these other people and I'm like getting to sit in this podcast with you like I was watching these podcasts religiously like just

a few months ago and it was like so intimidating to even think about meeting any of the guests on this podcast yeah and so it's like yeah I think also that like comes back to this like concept of like it will never be enough and not in a bad way but just that like I will always be hard on Myself because I know I could be doing more and I know I could be growing and unless I am putting those like I'm like juicing every bit of like energy I have out of a day and

like putting as much work in as I can like I won't be happy but like that's kind of a good at least maybe it's maybe it's Psychopathic but I think that's a good metric to be base your happiness on because like nobody else can determine that for you you're in control of how much work you put in Where you put that and that is what is going to directly correlate to the impact you make on the world and so if that's how you measure like your like worth as a person or your like just how

proud you are of yourself then you're always going to be pushing yourself to do better and do more and improve and learn and get around better people and there's still days where like I'll put in 12 hours of work or something I'm like dang that should have been a 16-hour day like I I spent like four hours you know not working like I got to sleep less tomorrow and so um but yeah I think that like I I measure a good day based on like how does that compare to the day before and like am

I making progress forward and it's not even necessarily about like the income it's more like it's like am I am I innovating am I creating new Solutions am I like working harder because like I could lose Everything tomorrow but if I'm connecting with successful people I'm finding new Solutions finding new problems to solve finding new clients like I'm more interested in that kind of progress that I am in like the actual number in my bank account yeah it's so crazy cuz now you have the identity of school games winner to add that to like the

little notch on the belt of your video game character and as you say you know the people that you've watched on This podcast you're friends with them now yeah it's so weird that's crazy like I I remember watching like Daniel on the podcast and Kai and I'm like looking at these people I'm like it just I like couldn't I just like couldn't relate to them I was like they were heroes in in my head and like meeting them I was I like every person that I've met through like the school games I've been so nervous

to meet them and it's like recently I just have to keep reminding Myself I'm like I did that like literally like on the way into the podcast it's like you're you're meeting avelyn Vice I me I'm still nervous to me a it doesn't feel real yeah yeah so you mentioned at the start February you saw a post from Alex rosi you saw School you opened up a school account and that's what's changed everything for you why what is it about school that has given you the Opportunity to experience what you've experienced now and again just

to make explicitly clear you are the person that grabbed that opportunity and went for it and that's why you've been able to get the results is because you took the crazy amounts of action but what was it that Drew you in made you go all in yeah well it's funny I was actually at the time so right before I heard about school I was I I looked up this app I heard of this app Cameo where like you could find successful people and pay them to like talk to you for five minutes and I remember

I was like looking up I was like oh could I talk to like Graham Stefan or could I talk I was like looking up I was like Alex Ros is on there dang it and like look going through the list of all the people that watch like come come charge would be I was going to I was going to take for 50 seconds I was going to do whatever it took I just like wanted to have that connection to successful people and I couldn't figure out how to do it I was like investing in events

I was like okay I can like go to enough events I'll meet some cool people I'll just like you know continue to network but it was just like I wanted to get around people that actually done what it was that I wanted to do because I didn't grow up in that environment I didn't have an example of Entrepreneurship I didn't like even the networking groups in my small town like it was it was like the you know the power washing the client I had like it was all these like small local businesses which are amazing

but the mind is very different there's like a difference between owning your own job and owning a business and so I just knew that I needed to get outside of like that Circle and when I heard about school I had so much respect for Alex And I knew he had never promoted anything so immediately I was like okay cool whatever this is it's good and um then as soon as I got on school it was the examples seeing like different stories different ages different niches niches and like people that had no experience like making crazy

amounts of money winning the school gam making 50k and like they had never made that kind of money before I'm like oh like this is real like this is there's there's so Many different kinds of people here and then obviously that proximity that like you actually have access to them you can actually have a conversation where else can you go and have a conversation with somebody that's like a net worth like has over a 100K or hundred million dollars to their net worth and like they're just on there in the DMs like or you can

go spend a grand and be on like four hours of calls a week with like someone like Ted Like that was a no-brainer to me and I never invested in a course but I was just like immediately like okay this is this is like worth it I'll either learn a ton from this on like what not to do or it'll be everything I wanted it to be and I'll network with all these people and that's what it turned out to be and so it was definitely just like the proximity and the ability to learn from

someone that actually has the life you want Mhm yeah and it's interesting because every level of success you experience you have to let go of beliefs patterns and behaviors that got you to that point you need to adopt new ones that takes you to the next level and you just do it again then you to let go new habits new behaviors what was it about the platform of school that allowed you to experience that and what beliefs and mindsets did you start to let go in the Early stages that's a good question yeah I think

it was the fact that everyone there was like there to learn there's no like like hate or like this pompous attitude that like you know I know everything or whatever like everyone was there to learn which is kind of just like a characteristic of a learning platform probably but um I I was just like wow this is such a cool community and I think I was really just Craving to be around people that were like that and there weren't entrepreneurs in my hometown so it was like there is that that component of just like wanting

to be like this PE these people and um yeah like that that just like accelerated the journey because forming those relationships with people like then they become your friends and they become the people that have the biggest influence on you and so then you're comparing yourself or you're Using their standards to measure your own self and so that was like really really influential and um I think school as a platform is the only place that I've ever encountered that and it's like a family of entrepreneurs like it's just and it's like hundreds of thousands of

people and they all want to learn and like they're all just like there's just like humility about it and I think that's kind of characteristic of like entrepreneur like entrepreneurs that Have actually put the work in to build what they have is that they're they're pretty humble because they failed and like you look at Alex Heros like the difference between Alex Heros and like a lot of those like influencer kind of entrepreneurs is like Alex trosi is so humble he's so honest because he's been Net Zero multiple times and so I think that like that's

the only conclusion I I can come to is like that must be why he's so humble is because he knows like Where he started and like the the work that went behind it and I think that is just like I don't know it's just such like an electric kind of personality to be around and like we were talking about the very beginning of the podcast everything can be learned and everything can be developed so if you hang around people like that and you spend your time instead of on Instagram or on Netflix or whatever you're

on school you can still have fun you can be going through GIF And just like looking at you know funny gifts you can just like be in the in the posts in the community chatting with people online calls like you know there's so many communities where it's just like people having fun but like you're still around people that are building something MH so even when you're having fun it doesn't feel like unproductive yeah it's crazy that humility piece you know I think like with Alex he Remembers what it's like to be a child he remembers

what it's like to be a baby entrepreneur and again I'm stuck on this metaphor today but it's you know adults have such compassion empathy for kids because they remember it's like I remember what it was like to not be able to do anything it's like of course I'll help and I think like the best entrepreneurs they they view early stage entrepreneurs the same way that a grandparent would view a Grandchild it's like there there there it's okay I know that you fell and you hurt your knee and I know you think it's the worst thing

in the world but I have the perspective that actually this is not a big deal whatsoever mhm and the things that break early stage entrepreneurs are they make a mistake they have to refund a $100 C customer and they think it's like the biggest craziest problem in the world and then later on in their entrepreneurial Journey it's like they lose a million on a deal and they experience it with the same pain level yeah do you know what I mean and so I think it's having that awareness and also that that empathy for yourself as

well I think is really important yeah yeah cuz like you have to go through like there's so much like pain and like responsibility and stress and things that like are really uncomfortable that you have to go through and even when you're winning Like you're still like you are responsible to make sure that continues in that trajectory and so I think like being like real with yourself and knowing that like it you your decision-making ability problem solving ability is like what is going to determine whether you're successful or not it has to keep you humble otherwise

you're going to you're going to trip it's interesting Laura who you also met in the lobby there with Evelyn we just Did a podcast with her and she said the interesting thing about school is you for cont transparently see everyone's success you see the leaderboard you see how much money everyone's making you see how they're making it and she says you know it just allows you to borrow hope I love that yeah and I think that's what like you need in the beginning is you just need that belief yeah and you can borrow that belief

from stories like yours you know it's I love like of Course I do I love like full circle moments just like now you're on the podcast that you listen to to give you that hope yeah and now you're giving that hope to the patri of six months ago you know what I mean it's like it's like whoa is Elmer right are we living in a simulation you know I was telling you yesterday like I was watching Kai's podcast a couple months ago and I remember that just being like it was such like an inspirational podcast

like Hear what he had gone through to like win and I think that was like something I realized I was like oh like if you just put in a ton of work even if you don't have an audience even if you've never sold something even if you don't have any network or any foundation like you could just outwork everyone yeah like and I was like okay well I don't have any advantage a special skill I'm not like you know super confident I'm not a public speaker or any of these Things but I can work really

freaking hard and that was just like what I held on to I was like I can work really hard to compensate for everything I don't have right and so I think kind of like back to one of your original questions that's where the work ethic came in was just like I always felt like I was compensating like first it was like compensating for confidence and compensating for the skill set and like so I was just like I will work double What is whatever is like you know the standard because at least then I'll probably be

a little bit ahead or at least on track right and so yeah really really really good point this is an aspiring conversation I'm definitely feeling we're going deep we are going deep what I think is interesting about your next step is that hard work alone is not going to get you there so now you've hit this 30k a Month moment you probably have realistically maxed out the amount of volume you personally can do so you have a couple of interesting options you can stay in this place you can keep hustling you can keep doing all

the volume or it sounds like I actually didn't know that you started working with somebody so now you have Olga mhm but you're not going to get to 100K a month with this business model with the way you're doing things with just You so how are you thinking about that next step do you want to keep growing do you want to stay where you are because everyone has a different threshold of where they want to grow to and I think it's totally fine if we have that conversation but yeah what's next for you 30k has

never been the goal I don't know if there is a monetary goal but it's not 30k if there is but what I did the other day was I drew out like an org Chart of like and I split up my business and I laid out every single role and basically wrote my name under every single role except for copyright you're going to love this book we were talking about before oh yeah yeah you're going to love it that's what I need but I heard somebody say there's like draw out your or chart and look at

it every single day and it gave me so much Clarity like immediately gave me Clarity and I was like okay so I have one person Here and then I like I need somebody here and I was like well what if I just like find somebody to do the operations like hire all those people and I was talking to Benny with Ted um and that's exactly what he said he was like just hire somebody Ben is a beautiful man I'm going on the record he's a beautiful on he is so sharp like especially when it comes

to building teams like every time I talk to Benny about building a team and like coming away with gems and so Yeah so I think that's the game plan is just continue to scale um and working one-on-one with like the people I'm bringing in as like actual copywriters because like my brand is based around really good copy and so that delivery has to stay top tier um but the beauty of it is that I have copyrighting students and I have these incredible people that I've been coaching right in your school community so it's become a

market you've been growing your own team Pretty much wow and and some of them want to do their own thing and like run their own business and I'm helping them do that and others like really want to work with me and so that's that's really exciting and I think the best part about school again the people is that like you can go and like I have a a free community of like 330 people like those are all entrepreneurial people some of them are into copywriting some of them are building their own communities but They're all

entrepreneurial and so to Source an operator to Source a community manager it's easy right it's then it just becomes about like okay what is the actual onboarding process me you know really delegating like CU I I know that's like one of the biggest things is like entrepreneurs think that they can do it better than everyone else and so they don't delegate they do it themselves right and I they definitely like I'm like yeah I know I can write a Banger email and like I can do re I can write really good copy and I do

most my copy right now but that's one of the things I realized like last month at the end of the gam was like I don't want to fall trap to that and I know that like at the end of the day I'm not the best copywriter in the world I know that I learned this in six months and I can teach it to somebody else in six months and so if that's the long game like that's what I'm doing yeah and so yeah That's that's the game plan is just duplicating myself that process that got

me here and then I'll essentially just do like the quality checks make sure everything that goes out is really good and continue working with like the one-on-one clients and Consulting and stuff we should do an interview again whenever you do you hit 100K let's just do this through your whole career every Mon it's such an interesting case Study genuinely so so interesting so wrapping up part two if you could go back in a time machine to Patrice in February to little sweet Patrice he didn't know anything he was making $0 and you had a couple

of minutes of her time like what would you say to her first off I would tell myself you need to Niche down stop trying to be an Alex rosi when you've done nothing with your business career because I was so scared To Niche down into copyrighting which is why I had like I I made 2K then I went back to zero because I was still trying to like make this broad business offer work so that's the first thing I would tell myself just Niche down go all in with this you're not married to an Niche

just go all in and I think that would have just gotten me here even faster would have eliminated that that month of April um so that would be the first thing and then I think just like Encouraging myself like stay consistent I think there was so much like doubt and fear that like every night I was going to sleep I was like like I can't get a job it wasn't crossed my mind like oh what if I have to get a job I was like I can't get a job but like I'm this many days

away from being worth zero dollars and like I was doing the math and I was just like this is not good like this is like I might have to ask my parents for money if I like make this trip out to California and then it doesn't work out and I don't make 10K this month like this is going to be rough but like I think I would have just like gone back and told myself like you're doing the right things you're you're taking these risks they will pay off if you're just like fully committed so

it would have been more just like encouragement than anything else yeah for the beginner who is on the fence and has kind of been in that stage you were they're watching all The content they're listening to this podcast they're you know flying through books and they're just don't have that confidence to jump in What would you say to that person find somebody that has that confidence for you get that confidence from somebody else and if that means investing into a course you can get around someone like Ted or you can get around someone that has

that life you want they have a business maybe that you're interested in or maybe they Don't maybe you you don't know what business you want get around someone that has a business that is successful and whether you have to pay them or you have to add some value work hard get in proximity become very valuable to them and just like like get get someone to take you under their wing there's so many entrepreneurs that want to help people but you have to identify yourself as a hard worker in order for them to respect you and

to know that that's not Going to be a waste of their time because there's nothing worse when you give someone advice and they ignore it and don't take it and so I think so many entrepreneurs are like they want to see people win but it's it's you know it's it's hard to invest your time if you don't know if someone's going to take it seriously so if you're brand new you've got to just take take that either time where you're investing and like putting some kind of value in front of them and Solving a problem

for an entrepreneur or the faster way is just buy a program or invest in coach coing or you know fly to an event or something but get around someone who has that confidence in you and can show you how achievable it is and like using their story and kind of borrowing their confidence you can get there a lot faster I'm even going to say like encourage people to get around you you know like we'll link what what do you want us to link what's the best Thing to link yeah you could link my school Community

I'm pretty much doing everything through the one Community right now but yeah no I I I love connecting with people my my free community there's like so many so many fired up people and it just it gets me excited when I when I meet someone like an olga who she shot me a message when I was winning the games and she was like hey I know you're bringing out a bunch of clients right now I'm looking to get Better at copyrighting can I write for free for you and work on some of your clients work

and I was like let's get on a call I texted her back I was like you know if you send this to people like me like multiple people you are going to be making 10K months so fast oh bro you get five clients yeah yeah so easy and and yeah so she's officially like coming on the team I'm be paying her and I I want to I want to make it good enough so that she doesn't actually go and work for Five other people cuz she's a killer but that's like if you if you do

stuff like that and you're just like adding value to people you go through a month like you were talking about you work for a lot less than you know your work is worth but you're willing to put that in to prove yourself and to prove that you're hungry and to prove that you have that work ethic that's just like there's there's no better way to accelerate your process and my big takeaway from our Conversation today is that you prove it to yourself and when you prove it to yourself you then get to collect that new

identity and that new identity will take you to a new place and it's a place that you could never have dreamt of going before you should frame that that was so good bro you crushed it thank you so good so honored to be here a pleasure really congratulations super excited like we love to see your success like the whole Community is rooting for you like genuinely it's like it's been such an arc thank if you are not on school yet there'll be a link to join that as well in the description we'd love to have

you there you don't need experience you don't need an idea we will show you how to do everything it's like Patrice is there I'm there Alex Heros is there there that's not enough you can get on Zoom with all of us all of these people coaching from and we'll literally show You exactly what to do step by step and it's free to start and we'd love to see you there see you at 100K let's go thanks Greg appreciate you for producing so exciting y that was