You know my hband crazy look you might hear us again but you Ain have attitude you might hear you might hear us again hey hey M up hey M up hey welcome to moms actually I am Morgan I'm Blair and y'all I know y'all we have Auntie the the Auntie tabi the brown here oh my goodness I am just crawling in my skin right now I just literally cannot believe it but I am so grateful that you Are here we are so grateful that you are here and that you are joining us on the couch
we told yall we had a tree for you guys and did we deliver or we delivered yes you've been waiting for this even know didn't even know you were waiting for it but yes we've been waiting for this but yes we are so excited to have you here thank you so much for just joining us um you guys know if you don't know we are about to get into some really really good conversation but Before we start we're going to give you a moment this is your moment right now to subscribe so we just going
to give you one little second press the button all right okay so thank you so much for joining us before we get started into the nitty-gritty of the conversation we like to play a little game o okay okay Blair can you take us in on the game so we're going to play a little game you've seen it unless you're new it's giving motherhood and so that is why we have These fun little paddles and so gold means yes or it's the first answer or first option and then white means no or it's the second option
because we're going to do some yes or no and some either or yes no no maybe so yeah all that all that good we're going to figure it out so the first question are you ready all right okay so I'm ready good very she's like that was the first question right is having it all unrealistic Oh no I only say yes because it's like a technicality like I guess it's like what's the all like all right well I think that well yeah because all is what we determine right so to me if if we have
life and we have um like health and and all the things like whatever we perceive is all is all so I think if we don't look at somebody else's definition of all we always have it all I can agree if We're going from that definition that's that's why I said no cuz I'm like what's all to me and whatever is all to me is what I have and it's not unrealistic I'm like if you say all or none like in an argument or something you're like black or white automatically wrong like cuz it's just never
is yes I'll go with that okay okay do you think today's moms face more challenges than previous generations yes I say yes Oh we've talked about this before that's why I'm laughing um I'm in the middle I'm in the middle uh I am I say yes cuz of social media but then like no cuz we don't have the milk cows like how far in the generations are we going like you know there was just a lot more that had to figure out without technology so I'm like you can go harder from that you were like
kind of lonlier too like it just depends on what we're saying is the generation like the 1800s The 1910s the 1980s but I feel like social media makes it much harder as well yeah I think more access creates more challenges yeah yeah I would say the same thing that's why I'm kind of in the middle because we have just so much exposure where we're like ah I'm not doing that and kind of what you were saying um a couple episodes ago everything is either right or wrong or for a second it's like this is the
best way and then it's like oh study show That actually this awful way so it's like between that and then but the previous generations they kept everything in like everything was we got to be strong we got to you know we're we're talking more now so they didn't have an outlet for real to be able to say no I'm not okay yeah yeah this is true yeah I agree both have your kids ever have your kids ever walked in on you no yes my mother-in-law's walk don't Remember it that is very awkward yeah it was
it was really weird she was only two yeah and we stopped instantly and was like we wrestling did y'all did y' like she was like I don't like the rest I get do I don't like you like here we just playing girl you we don't like it either we just play oh my goodness then years later when she was like 14 or 15 she heard us yeah and she was upset about it so how do you do have you had you already Had like the talk oh yeah we had had the talk yeah many times
you know the talk is a it's like conversation in my hus um you know she was in high school but then she had an attitude about it so when dad had took go to school that morning he was like cuz we didn't know she had heard us yeah and so he took her to school that morning and when he came home or he called me he was like hey I think Choice might have heard us last night I said why he was like she had a Little attitude this morning like nothing that he could say
like she want to you know have no conversation and so when we picked her up she still had attitude and so I was like oh now we got to have a conversation and so chance who is you know my husband crazy look you might hear us again but you ain't going have attitude you might hear us again but you CU you know we had a very small house at and uh it's like you know we we can Understand your like your your thoughts and your emotion behind it but the reality is we your parents love
each other and and this is also how you got here you also know what it is right um but we respectfully always try to make sure you don't hear it yes and this is like the first time in your whole 14 years of life not pretty good she don't remember when she was two yeah and so we we worked really hard on you know making sure she was Comfortable after I like that you said that word like respectfully you still like even though we're adults even though is our house all that we still try to
make sure you absolutely because you also don't want your children to like have trauma because I'm like it's like it's weird but you yeah you should be happy your parents getting like each other they love each other I me even to this day she 22 now she be like if we hug oh my God y'all are so disgusting Flash she be like I'm out of here yeah that's crazy she grown yeah my just the other day oh oh yeah that was the first time my son y yeah I mean y'all more just if you a
morning person just seem like it's every day cuz we don't Ty morning stuff but it just was that day okay but he you know he right back out he didn't know he didn't know cuz it stopped and then uh my my husband was like all right son go back in your room which usually he'll even say that even When we're not doing anything cuz we try to keep a limit on or a time frame on when he can actually come in in the morning so he just knew to close the door and go back it
was it was pretty chill but I was like wow that was close um okay me next so do you think parenting gets easier as kids get older I'm going give a whole big old fat no I'm going to say no I have younger kids but I feel like everything's conceptual with younger kids that's why All the advice I give and I'm like but my kid is six and four so you know we going to see if it actually turns yeah it's definitely a no yes so clearly I I don't think I realized how easy you
know baby Sage was Toler stage you know even Elementary School all that it was so much easier honey trying to parent adults and teenagers baby I'm lucky to be here but it's also like now you you're never not parenting right you have to Adjust you know cuz when you have you know teenagers which is a very tough stage because you don't want toat uh treat your children like babies but you also don't want to treat them like adults yet so you got to find the medium right uh and every child is different you don't realize
that until they start getting their own personalities and they continue to grow um it it's definitely harder as they they grow up and then you Wear it for the rest of your life you be like I ain't going to worry about it but as a parent you always got something in the back of your head like you know my daughter and now she moved to to uh Houston and she not I can't reach her like I used to be and touch her it's it's a lot different yeah I I cannot imagine when your kids are
just in the wild every day yeah yeah yeah they don't even come back on like they just yeah every day living yeah just holiday we Did it too call your mom after right right it's just hard my daughter's 11 so I'm in the that stage of like oh it's coming yeah no it's here is it oh it's here I'm like is she sixth grade yes oh she literally that in that first transition of you know figuring out like oh I have options people are trying to influence me all the things and I'm like okay and
of course like you said you got to let them figure it out and they also have now their own thoughts their own Desires all that stuff but it's a lot and you got to remain open right so that they can still trust you and what come to you right and so even when the the parent inside of you want to be like no you need to do h y and z y you can't you got to adjust it's easy when what I not when they you know you know really are independent and thinking on their
own you got give them that freedom Noble already says like you know no one Can you can tell me what to do but no one can make me do anything right like she's already at that stage and I'm like she's six and I'm like you're right I can't make you do anything but you talk to her that way to it's it's like it word I'm like I need to get it like right there you need to figure that out now get that a little later cuz sometimes I do need to you need to feel like
you have to but got got yeah it did yep okay would you Rather take a Eat Pray Love solo trip or a 10day cruise with your family oh oh that ain't a yes or a no that's First Option op Pray Love okay got you or 10day Cruise that's actually I thought I knew the answer but that's that's actually kind of hard I mean I want to go with the family and then after I'm going to need that solo like both that's good that's good cuz how long is the E Pray Love trip will we say
I mean let's say I Mean I feel like Julia Roberts was gone for about four months right I let's say 10 days 10 days 10 days yeah let's do 10 and 10 yeah I'm going to go with tab's answer cuz I need the the family trip cuz I don't really like doing solo too too much by myself you know especially traveling by I've never traveled by myself before yeah so yeah yeah I would like but 10 day on a cruise I've never been on a cruise because that feels weird the cruise was surprising I Thought
I would hate it it it was not that bad like if you get on a nice one like it just looks it's a floating be like it's a beautiful yeah floating Vegas okay okay the rooms can sometimes be a bit tight depending on you know where you where you good but a cruise actually and then they do the stop I think the Cru yeah and I'mma bring Sophie going on a trip with us cuz she like bring the the kids will be here but okay yeah yeah I think I would do the Cruise I feel
like my house is my Eat Pray Love Like I get a lot of like I make those moments so yeah I would do the family cruise I'm actually very surprised right now yeah I'm shocked I'm shocked um when does the mom sleep sleep when the baby sleeps or whenever it just happens the mama doesn't sleep well we definitely should sleep when the baby sleep when you're you know people say that all the time uh but reality is baby it just be Happening just be happening yes it's it's hard cuz sometimes when the baby sleeps it's
like that's when I want to do something I want to do even though I'm tired and that doesn't stop after the new bar stage that's still the kids like I'm like I am so tired but I want to sit up and watch a show or you know catch up on I feel like the first two weeks you can kind of adapt that after that it's like oh now I got to get some stuff do yeah okay first two weeks y'all Hear that first two weeks well toddler stage or teenagers toddlers we just went over that
I missed that stage it's I love it they love you more yeah I'm like I'm not a baby person I'm a toddler person I love toddlers even when they're having their Tantrums all things like cute it's the cutest thing teenagers woo bless them Jesus yeah y i remember being a teenager I apologize my par he's laughing okay so he got you but you know Boys are different than yeah he's still my baby I was going to say you did the whole girl thing and now you're doing the bo okay yeah he he said he never
going to you know leave me nor forsake me that's my son right there I've been practicing my son saying that too I promise mommy you wanton to grow up he said well I can't I can't really promise you that Mom but I'm going be here that's my that's my buddy oh I love that boys love their Mas they do is it me yes Okay do you believe that gender reveals are overrated yes or no um I'm going say no just because I think if people want to do that that's their business you know they want
to be excited about it and make it a thing it wasn't a thing when I you know you know but I be wishing I could have had a little fun moment too right yeah uh but I listen I think whatever people want to do to them or have a celebration baby you do that that's your business yes I Agree it's cute but like I said if you know what sex you want to have like just don't do it unless you already know when you're surprising everybody else cuz seeing those people upset at their yeah that's
no fun and then the next 20 weeks or if they people find out early early now like you imagine a whole pregnancy being mad sad upset yeah and then your your child has to see that lat exactly if you being mad that coming what happened was uh oh you didn't want me Yeah I waited till ber to find out cuz I really wanted a boy yeah and I had a girl but I didn't have any time to feel any way but the baby's here so I avoided 20 weeks of disappointment I wanted if we did
it one more time that's what I wanted to do just wait and see what the surprise oh yeah cuz you got the girl you got the boy like but we the shop is closed the shop is closed so we won't we won't be doing that I know people get surprised no Man no we kept and sniff yeah okay okay okay there go surprises no surprises on the one day okay well that was great thank you so much for playing it's giv motherhood um now let's just dive into the conversation now you are known for a
plethora of things oh plethora yeah plethora of things you have a long list but um is there anything that you don't normally get to talk about that you're like you know what I wish they would see this side of Tab more m no I'll be talking about everything you do you do you're open book I feel like yeah I'm open book so I'm open to whatever you want to talk about when's the first time you you heard of Tabitha what was your first like Tabitha experience oh man um I mean it's been so many things
I would say probably all the the cooking recipes so I was like ooh you can make bacon like this that was my first that was my first one I was like This lady just made carrots into BAC and it look good but I'm not trying yes yes yes cuz I love my very first so was I'm always following people that so I think I followed you for that and then I was like oh and she loves the Lord and she got like some really good inspiration and then you came out with all the snacks and
you just kept growing and I love seeing people's Journeys so you know you follow somebody but you made me stick around yeah thank you that's true I appreciate you sticking around yes so how has it been because it hasn't been that long really it's like you worked very long and hard to become an O overnight success right 2 years instead of 24 hours exactly but people you know when you pop up that's when they think you've appeared like oh it just she went viral once and it you know showed up or what have you so
how have the last few years like been compared to you know the work that got you to the this version of Fruit it's been amazing right the first you know it started I started doing video in content in 2017 and had my first viral moment um December 30th of 2017 so 2018 is really when it took off uh a lot of people didn't find me into 2020 uh on like Tik Tok when that came about but my first you know moment was 2018 of January and I got my first like Whole Foods campaign right from
that video and that was the car sandwich T and it just kind of took Off from there and it was very um different for me because I had never did like content and social media that's a new world for me you know I'm a trained actress and um had been working like in Corporate America 95 where I pursu my dreams out here in LA and so I was like wait I can make money on the internet Jesus I didn't know this right so just learning that and I kind of stepped away from acting for like
those first two years because I was doing so much you Know content and traveling and speaking to people and it was I didn't even realize I wasn't doing my acting stuff wow you know God had just like he kind of put me in this this safety zone he was like I'm going to develop some something different inside of you for these next two years and I allowed it and I was like okay Lord I'm open to whatever you want me to do and so it's it's been an amazing journey I'm very grateful yeah I love
that it sounds Almost like you had to surrender a little bit oh absolutely um and I think we hear a lot of times from moms like in that se that safety zone but they don't know they're in the safety zone what are the signs that you're like right there and you just need to surrender for God to do what he's supposed to do for me the sign is when everything that you've tried is not working right uh now I got to be obedient and let God open the doors and let him make the moves for
me And I continue to to follow you know and and walking those steps but if everything that you're trying you just feel like I'm not in control anymore this is the time when you know okay I got to let him be in control and surrender be obedient that's that's kind of the sign for me that's what it was okay I can imagine you I mean you work so hard towards becoming an actress in like this care career path that didn't even exist so it's like now I'm doing This like how did you adjust like to
the changes so from your everyday life to now all of this attention and it's like you're working to if you were an actress you would have got all the attention too but like how did it feel to like get out into the public Spotlight have everybody's opinions on like literally overnight have such a change to your lifestyle um you know it never really felt and this you know I I've answered This before in a way it felt normal for me I love that it felt very normal uh and I've told the story before for years
pursuing acting you know it didn't matter the role was paying me $ or if I was doing it for free it could be a short film Ma you know feature film a commercial a music video it didn't matter what it was I would come home and tell my husband oh this is it I would be so excited like oh my God this is it honey we gonna go to the film festival Like all these things I would be like just over excited about and when these things started to happen in this new career path I
was making money things were really had people were knowing who I was and I was very calm about it and my husband was like Hey listen you know when for years you would come home and and nothing was really happening but you so excited and you believe that it was he was like and now that things are really happening we really you know you Really making money like and success has come you very calm he was like so what what is it that's kind of like you know and I was like oh because you know
before my my spirit and my flesh was not in alignment so while my flesh was like oh my God my spirit was like girl no you got to keep going but now all in alignment so I feel balanced and I'm very grateful so it's a different energy I'm super excited all the time but it feels very much so like oh I'm at home It's like a chyos moment M it's just very feels very normal like oh this is what God had intended for me I was going to say so you're not surprised by where you're
at now um I wouldn't say surprised because I would always dream and see things I never imagined it to be the way it is I always knew something was coming uh but I'm I'm very like oh God this is it this is amazing you know but because you actually get to it's funny you do all this time to become an Actress playing other people other parts and you get to be this being yourself be T it's not wild it's amazing but then you still get to you I was to say you still get to do
your acting so it's like nothing is wasted all the things you still came back it all comes back around but it's because you were obedient absolutely wow um now you have in the midst of all this you have children so how has that been because I can only imagine as you continue to get bigger as You continue to get more roles and things like that you your kids don't go anywhere um they still need you they still you know they still need Mom and you're America's mom right now but they're like but n you my
mom so what's going on you know so how has that been um just kind of balancing all that and we have a fun cuz she doesn't believe in balance at all and I'm like there's rhythms so what's what's your take well for me I am uh mama first right I'm Family first that's just how I live my life everything else is just the bonus right uh my kids it's so funny yesterday we was at a fashion show and you know people come up and I was with my daughter you know they want take pictures and
all the things she was like girl I be for getting you famous cuz at home I'm just Mom yeah right so it's no like oh my God this my mom know it's like no this mama and so uh I just stay true to who I am you know When I go out I'm still tab but at home it's just I'm mama so my kids don't they know oh my mom is you know it's tap of the brown but that's just like my name right so uh my son he you know he's younger which is so
funny we'll be out and he' be like oh these your fans like you know he be like oh okay okay to to him at a very early age when things really started happening in the last couple years uh if you were a successful because you know their generation watch YouTube yes and the YouTubers would have the um Model X Tesla with the doors that go up that's how he like measured success and he was like right but but I didn't have that oh so you you not really famous the doors right and so I was
like but what if mommy just don't want that when he like but the YouTubers that's what they when you got money that's what you you have to get a carard to show your your son no I still got that I'm Like he was like but Mom but that's kind of like his way like oh Mom you ain't made it yet so he's still like yeah cute but it's still just Mom I love that so yeah besides you like having a son and a daughter what's been the biggest difference in raising them because you raised your
daughter during a different era of your life and now you're raising your son during you know he's more present for this era of your life so what's been the biggest difference the Biggest difference uh is patience right I'm older right so I also suffered loss and hardship and all that with my daughter and it also taught me to be more present um not to be in a rush for them to grow up to hold on to each moment when you can because you can look up tomorrow and it's gone right uh so be more patient
being more understanding also I think the the biggest lesson was that they are not the same right I'm also not the same Yeah yeah and uh giving Grace more uh for myself right and extending that to to the children uh but also we don't have the stresses that we had with my daughter you know we was we was uh broke for a long time she's like and you know choice we moved around a lot you know from Apartments you know uh houses renting trying to find you know better schools and all the things so she
moved a lot where my son has only you know had like two or three but he's Always had homes right and so I used to kind of carry that like almost as a guilt for my daughter and she was like Mommy I thought it was fun you know we were moving I was like oh I got a new room but I grew up in the same house my whole life right and so uh it was my own internal thing but uh but yeah being able to give him things that we could not give her you
know when it comes to like education and more opportunities and things like that but even with being Able to do that she had so much more when it comes to um I guess like like the like not Street knowledge but you know like oh girl we know you going to be all right out we be like oh Lord Jesus is he going to be you know he's like kind of going be take care of out there like CH would be like no if you B like I don't think we should really know you know Mommy
I don't know you know right like Lord Jesus what have we done you got just throw them out Somewhere son um but yeah I think that's that's the difference uh but the the core of who we are has always been the same uh but as you know as you grow and you age and things shift of course we have to shift and change as well so but yeah let me is there a way or a strategy that you have to staff your life to staff my life what do you mean like your village and how
you get because we can't do any of this alone um so how what are the because we hear it all the time They're like well how do I you you always say Sisterhood and Village but like how do you do that how do I how do I meet these people how do I even decide side that there's the right people that to have in my Village so do you have a village and how have you oh yeah absolutely we we have a village here in laake cuz we moved here we didn't know nobody so over
the years um when I was in acting class when we first moved out here I was you know we got married young My husband 25 years so uh I was the only one in class that had a baby and who was married and so I would invite everybody over to my apartment we have Sunday dinners and so I would cook and I want vegan back then but cing you know play games and everything and the village just Contin to grow over the years and of course when I had my son it's like everybody showed up
right and so now uh as success comes and and freedom comes uh the the circle actually has gotten Smaller yeah I imagine yeah it gets smaller but it should right uh and I had said this recently sometimes it has to get smaller so we can get bigger and so uh with that I know the people I have now I can truly trust right and then of course you know you hire people to with your team but when it comes to my family though it's like you got to be family to be in the family yeah
yeah yeah absolutely yeah but I do we we be mama and daddy like we still going drop you Off at school and pick you up and do the things yeah okay one of the things I love that you said is that you opened your doors like to the people to come in and I think a lot of us we're always waiting for somebody to open the door to us and that's why we you know we're like oh no one invited me and no one but we're like okay well you can open the door so that
actually spoke to me cuz I've been in my new state for a little over a year now and sometimes I'm like Tag I wish I had this or you know I missed that family moment but I'm like I could create that like I could open my doors and you know I don't have to wait to have this big house with all the space but I could just use what I what I have so that's the little tip right there little sidebar it's just open your door don't wait for everybody to you know open their door
to you but you let the people come in of course heuse discernment but oh yeah pleas Discern everybody's like yes it's funny we were doing a lot more things like back then that probably were wild style now can we let our like I was out in the wild without a cell phone as a child like that's kind of crazy riding bikes all through the woods going here there I would never let my kids do that now taking a whole bus to school at 5 years old all myself I live in a great neighborhood and I
wouldn't let my kids play outside By themselves I don't know maybe I cuddle too much but so I have a question so you know Michelle Obama talked about being married to um President Obama do we still call him that for president um and how there's time periods you know she like I ain't like him for a Whole Decade so like how do you get through 25 years of marriage um with all the changes all the kids all the things like cuz it's not the same marriage that you had in year one 5 10 exactly absolutely
I think that it's important to know in marriage in relationships you are going to change both of you right and so you got to be open to the change um there's absolutely those moments I understood Michelle anybody who been married for a long time understood what she was saying um I haven't had uh like 10 consecutive years a long of not liking somebody right um but I have we both of us have had times where I'm like man Lord have mercy I can't stand you but we love by Default that's why we all have hearts
right but that doesn't necessarily mean we going to like a season that you're in sometimes I don't like me y right that could be a season that I I ain't really fooling with me right now I ain't even got the capacity to fool with you that makes sense right so um but I I also know that a lot of times it has to do with self-work um if we ain't going to do the work on oursel we can't hold our partner Responsible for our happiness and a lot of people do and a lot of people
do so uh honesty being transparent having uncomfortable conversations uh sometimes being quiet right these are the things that help you get through 25 years but the growth and understanding the growth and the changes is the things that um truly will get you through it yeah right cuz I'm like you know people either we either think people divorce too fast or separate too Fast or like oh no people are together because they put up with a lot of crap and I wouldn't do that so it's like people are like I wouldn't want my grandparents marriage because
it wasn't this so it's like how do you I guess how do you know what's worth working through well I think that the first um place that we go wrong is comparing our marriages right like you know when people say I don't want my grandparents married well you shouldn't you shouldn't Want your you should want your sister's marriage you shouldn't want your friends marriage you should want your marriage and your marriage is going to be different than anybody else's right cuz what y'all do in your house is y' business um I am a firm believer
and not including a lot of folk in your in your Covenant right so like this is there's certain things where you do need to talk to somebody and say let me run something by you how how do you feel but how they Feel should never outweigh how you feel right you shouldn't be so influenced by what somebody else tells you about your own marriage and so making the decisions that work for you and I think that sometimes you can be in a relationship and one of y'all may not want it to work anymore y might
towel but the is like I still feel like we can work this the moment both in the same like for for a long season of I don't want to do this no more then it's Something like well let's talk about it neither of us really want to do this anymore let's unpack why and see if we have valid reason for us not to do this anymore right but if you don't have valid reason then that means okay we still got some work to do but I think it's to each its own you know in a
relationship I don't think there's one thing cuz some people can can handle uh certain things and some people can't for some people be like oh wait he wore Black yeah I know a reason someone divorced and it was like I was like y' could work through that yeah I think her husband like looked at pornography or something and she felt like that was cheating and they divorced I was like wow can I was like can I have that I was like I'll switch listen Jesus but that's her business yeah right exactly like you said you
can't compare wow yeah absolutely God bless you Everybody got their own reasoning so Mak sense even with life and we talking about you know relationships and stuff like that but motherhood and marriage that's a whole thing in itself like you have your life your lifestyle all the things success passions all that happening but marriage and motherhood together what is that like how do you how do you prioritize your marriage you know over your kids do you believe that's a thing like what is that like so When we first uh had choice right we were young
we hadn't got married yet she was a flower girl okay um so it was all about her for me you know I'm I'm a young mom and I'm trying to figure this out and it was really a a tough time for you know my husband cuz he was like dang I feel like you just forgot all about me right and I'm like I got this baby you know I'm breastfeeding on demand I'm you know pumping I'm also going to work and I was so focused on being a good mom That he had become like kind
of second in that moment but then after getting married and going years and years they both took priority over me yep right I I was whatever they needed yeah I was doing sounds and when I had my son we had you know we had been together for a long time but then and I realized by then I knew oh marriage is is first my husband comes even before the children uh but I had to come before him but it took me a long time to get that and so Now I know right in the last
six years I called uh it my freedom W okay I come first right then I make sure he good and then the children right that's how I operate and most times he and I we're so on the same page when it comes to the kids that it's easy to to navigate that way but uh you know everybody's a little different but if you truly believe in uh your marriage right you will understand that it has to come first right it has to come before your mom and daddy and For your you know your children cuz
a lot of times parents be so attached to their children even though they've been married for a long time they forget that wait a minute the husband and wife got to come before y'all now right so we got our own home now you know so uh it's definitely uh him first cuz listen want me tell you what them kids going to do they going to be disrespectful and grow up okay and leave and they ain't going to look for You to put them first right and now you at home trying to figure out what am
I doing because you didn't take your time to nurture what you had and what you're going to have to have when they're gone so which is yourself and your partner so was there any guilt that came with that because you raed yeah so how do you how do you fight that yeah the guilt so it's it's different levels of guilt right uh there was uh there's there's the parent guilt that comes and I think it never Goes away right uh where you think that you're not doing something right and uh then there's the guilt of
the marriage guilt of like oh dang I guess he was right I wasn't really paying him no attention you you know also as your body changes you had a baby you ain't never the same honey I don't even feel like having SI I don't even want you to look at me right we talk about being touched out and stuff like that it's just like but they don't get it it's personal to Them like they think it's personal I still love you I at the cellulite the cellulite is not listen they they don't see what we
see and we thank God for that kind like you look good but I always said I have to feel like I look good too right and then have to get to their place where they feel like that about themselves right the moment that they start having like some insecurity moments baby they all they a mess it don't happen as often for men right uh But when they do then it's sometimes like a wake up like oh this is what you were feeling you know uh so for for me the the guilt came in those waves
right but when I started my freedom walk which meant I started taking these layers off of this tab that I had created okay uh to navigate the world and to fit in and to be like this perfect person I started realizing I was like oh wait a minute I was living for everybody except me yeah and that meant I had to start putting me First and really getting to know myself and once I got to know me the true me I was like oh it's got to start with me every day and I can't feel
guilty about it and I'm not going to apologize for it and so that's that's how I live now almost like being Unapologetic about constantly finding who you are yeah absolutely we should not apologize for that and we should not feel guilty so 2017 was your year cuz that was 6 years ago so like did it happen like right Before or what was the timing like you decided you were going to put you first and then right because I got sick right so during my sickness um I was sick from 16 to 2017 for about a
year and a half um and I thought I was going to die right and during that time uh was you know the unraveling of this tab that I had created for so long and in in my prayer to God my like my final like wish and call out because I really thought God had forgotten about me my prayer was God if you heal me you can have me and that meant I won't want to try to live my life my way anymore I was going to live it the way he created me yeah and in
order to do that that meant I had to really show up as stab and I had to take these layers off and that meant okay now I got to be free and so going on a freedom walk is why I call it that was every day learning to be obedient every day learning to put me first every day um no longer trying to conform I ain't Code switching no more I'm not cover my accent no more I ain't going to dress the way you want me to dress I'm not going to wear my hair the
way you want me to wear I'm going to be who God has called me to be and it's going to be this tab and I'm not going to apologize for it doesn't mean I'm not triggered when you on a healing Journey some things can kind of shift you right or or make you say oh wait a minute do I deserve to be in this space can I show Up like this right but then you check that right we check oursel and then feel things but I don't let it run me like I don't pretend like
I don't have those moments so is that what you would say to somebody who is like that feels like God has forgotten them yeah I think that you know during that time when you feel that that's him wanting and Desiring you to get closer to him yeah right for me that's what it was me thinking that he had forgotten about me made me go deeper In my search for him right and so I always say go deeper right you know get get a little bit closer yeah mhm jeez I just I it's funny because I
I can relate to that like after I went through my big Health scare I think I did take off a layer and people do ask like how do you you know live in such a it's just different Morgan and I'm like yeah because I realized that it's not worth it like it's not worth living like this all the time and if he was going to take Me out he would have done it a long time ago he's like waiting for me to just be free and walk in what he called me to be so I
would you know just little sidebar if you are in a moment where you are you are right on the edge and you know you're supposed to just walk in Freedom I love that you're calling it that your freedom walk because I haven't had verbiage for it I'm always like I don't know it's just kind of happened about two years ago and God said but it's Truly that it is walking in Freedom walking in what God literally called you to be and not not scared even though it is scary yeah and even if you scared it's
all right yeah yeah being afraid doesn't mean you're not free acknowledging it means you're free that's a good so it's all right to do it again one more time but seriously that that's what it means you can be scared but still be free yeah right cuz it's also scary when You're walking in Freedom for me when I first started doing videos and uh you know I had did the big chop hat cut off all my hair and in my prayer and and being obedient I was like I got to stop like trying to talk perfect
I got a you know I've been trained for years I worked in Corporate America and also in acting like you had cold s down okay know who we talk exactly or even with the people I had met here in La cuz I was trying to be this perfect Tab and I Was like why I can't talk to these people the same way I talk to my daddy the same way I talk to my husband right whenever exactly when I know a camera is on or somebody you know that may be in the industry you know
even my friends I had to I realized one of my best friends her name is Zab we were we were on the phone one day and we were talking she from New York right and so we was talking and my daddy called and I had to click over and I was Like oh girl hold on one second so I clicked over and I talked to my dad for a few minutes when I came back I was myself and she was like hello and I was like not even my real friends know my real voice oh
cuz I had been hiding for so long right because I was trying to fit in out here in LA and I was told you know you country or Your Voice Sounds ignorant and I believe that and what's wildest what she known for what she known for you are like an ASMR for your voice my eyes can be closed and I know who the voice is and we all wait for that voice on Instagram well I'm on Instagram every day like their motivational messages yeah that's that's not Freedom though what are practical ways because we talk
about putting ourselves first we talk about finding ourselves but like what are the steps that is finally like okay decided that this is time for me to do that how do I do it I don't think that there's Actual steps right cuz I think everybody's life is different yeah but you know for me starting my day with myself right having a little bit of quiet time uh whether that is uh you know working out in the mornings having your prayers in the mornings but it's just your intimate time with you you and God and um
you just have space for yourself right uh so you can also tackle the day whatever may come your way right um another thing is which is so Important is using the word no right we don't know how we don't know how to do that sometimes yeah it's it's hard and and it is um work that has to be done right cuz you know somebody else's you know emergency don't necessarily mean as yours and sometimes they think that and so you got to be like o honey I am so sorry I'm not even available yeah you
know and it's okay and people actually accept NOS we accept people's no it's like okay I got it she's but for some Reason we don't we think we're supposed to save everybody it's a control thing too I think but it's also a woman thing yeah right you know it's in us we were you know we born with a wom which means we were born to carry that doesn't mean that we carry everybody else's problems but we sure try we try yeah this the womb is for them babies okay we got to carry all the precies
of the world and everybody's problems we B with a womb so that means we were born to care sheesh I Mean I mean that's why we carry a lot where we can have so much on us and people may not even know we hide it well honey a man you know what he carrying stressed he be like you can see every time but we can show up and be looking all right and they think everything is fine like a woman can had a pregnancy for months exactly yeah Jesus [Music] yeah okay so what is next
like as you Continue to grow as you you to really go after your wildest dreams and parent and you know be a wife what is the thing for you do you ever also feel like this is it and I'm good oh no what's Your Wildest Dream what's the dream um I have a bunch of them you know I'm nowhere near this is I'm good and this is it I think I'll be done when I'm when God calls me on phone right um but I have you know a lot of of things I want to do
of course I want to do a talk show um I Want to do you know documentary I want to you know travel the world and and and open our eyes up to different things uh More film and TV you know I just uh partner with uh made in love uh media with stepen love so you know with my production do you believe um making other people's dreams come true right so I I I have a lot to do how has the talk show not happened yet right well I've been offered a couple times but I
got it's got be okay cuz I like I know it's Okay that makes sense you know the timing got to be right whenever got says it's right I know it will be how Okay so that's a good question because I think sometimes we get presented with things that we pray for and so we want to say yes cuz we're like that's what we pray for how do you know to when to say no to something you pray for when it don't feel right yeah what's that feeling for you it's gut it's a gut feeling you
know I called a gut is the gift under the Tummy you feel that I've never heard that before you going to hear it all the time right wow I love that when you feel that and something don't line up GNA walk away from that yeah cuz I know people ignore it they're like I might just be nervous they you convince yourself there's no wayed if it wasn't him like we make a lot of things make sense that even though it's we also got to remember the enemy knows our dreams too so he can present as
well sure does He's good at it too he make it look real good yeah yeah absolutely what's your um motivation for inspiring people because I think right now you also which is why people call you Auntie and the M and all that stuff what inspires you or can keeps you going to even when you don't feel like it you know what I'm saying because the motivator doesn't always want to motivate the encourager doesn't always want to encourage but I feel like you have a voice to the person the Dreamer um that it's very specific what
what keeps you doing that I I feel like it's my assignment right um even on days when I don't feel like it if God gives me something then I give it right so it's purpose for me and uh I know what he's told me to do right and so I'm obedient in it and so Freedom keeps me motivated like I I have the freedom to deliver a message and I also he has he has blessed me with this thing of um once I give it I've released It and I don't carry it anymore you know
and so it doesn't matter what somebody says about it I'm just doing my job as a vessel right and so that keeps me motivated to know I'm I am you know doing my job that he has has blessed me to do okay so what would you say to a mom she's married or not married she has kids she's working and she had all these dreams and she thinks that they're not possible now cuz she's just got this full plate and I'm getting older and my Kids need me like what would you tell her um I
would say if you think that you can't you can't but if you think that you can you can Jesus drop the excuses listen either way you right if you say you can't you can't if you say you can you can but either way you right mhm either way you choose your right yeah you make the decision yeah how you going to lie to yourself Today yeah we not playing I mean I'm telling you it's just I I am so grateful that we have been able to have these types of conversations because it's so easy to
have the light and fluff right it's so easy to encourage and it sounds so good but it's also very hard when somebody is so deep down and they have convinced themselves that really this is it but it C it takes a certain amount of like you got to pull yourself up off out you know by your bootstraps and I think This season is doing that um especially from people like you that are saying no you got to you it's got to be you that wants it like it's got to be you that's got to tell
you that you could do it you have to stop encouraging people into complacency like sometimes your friends will be like okay it makes sense like yeah your life is hard it is okay you have to have those people that say like so so yeah like if you want it you want it you figure anything you care about You'll figure it out and I I think the most important thing is not to put um a time limit on your dreams yeah right I'm about to be 45 so and look good things just started happening for me
really the 40 mark you know my late 30s is when life started to like really open up in a in a new way for me and I'm just still getting started right no matter how much I've accomplished every day I'm like o this is a new day I'm just getting you know getting started so uh I think you Can raise your kids you can be this great mom but you can also do one small thing every day towards your dreams right it ain't got to be something massive you can do one small thing cuz those
kids like I said they going to grow up they going to be going living their life and then what do you have right but you still have you in the process so you need to make sure you take care and nurture your dreams as well in the you know while you're on the Journey of being a mom and a wife or whatever so yeah that's good so I'm going to ask you one last question oh all right girl okay so what do you think moms actually need to hear oh you're doing a great job you're
doing a great Joby you can do it your way and it's all right y you do it your way your way your way yeah that's good MH we we exposure we try to do it everybody else's way yeah you can do it your way and the most important thing to remember is you can Do it different you can do it different you don't have to do it the way that your mama did it your grandma did it your friends do you can do it different yeah yeah that's probably the best thing I learned like my
sister-in-law had kids before me and I had never seen anybody raise kids the way she does like you know her life and her marriage came first and it I was like oh I can do that cuz my mom sacrificed a lot like she never had any sick days any personal cuz It was all dedicated to me and I'm like oh you just you out living your life and you got some help you you can use you can like have help and not feel ashamed about it I was like oh okay got it absolutely you can
honey that's your village however you want to create it and that's also your business yes yeah wow thank you so much yes thank you thank you for talking with us thank you for coming like thank you for your guess it means the world to us does Appreciate y'all y'all are amazing wow than you are amazing it's just I'm like must they're amazing yall make sure y'all subscribe and things okay should I end it how I in my video oh please well very good we thank y'all for watching all right and until the next time y'all
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