This Could Be the Beginning of the End for Gender Ideology | Ep. 1499

Today the Matt wall show I was outside the Supreme Court yesterday as they heard arguments in a case stemming from the law in Tennessee Banning child castration the whole scene what happened outside the court and also inside shows that the gender ideologues are definitely losing and we'll talk about it also the women's golf league finally bans males from competing but why did it take this long and the prosecutor in the Daniel Penny case went easy on a guy who murdered an elderly man at an ATM because she felt sorry for the emotional trauma he'd suffered

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this country's history it's a case that will decide Whether under the US Constitution states are allowed to Outlaw child sterilization and mutilation in the name of gender Ideology Now in any other generation this question would not have made it to the Supreme Court in the first place the question itself would have been bewildering to anyone who heard it for the simple reason that sterilizing castrating and mutilating children is one of the greatest evils imaginable even some of the most Barbaric civilizations throughout history wouldn't even contemplate it you don't need a law degree to understand that

you don't need a convoluted analysis under the equal protection Clause of the Constitution you just need to be a moral person you need to be sane and have a basic working understanding of human biology now one of the main reasons that we've come to this point is that trans activists have successfully intimidated everyone else into silence Trans activists aren't capable of making coherent or rational arguments in defense of child Butchery because child Butchery is indefensible but they're very capable of shouting down anyone who opposes their ideology and predictably that's what they tried to do to

me when I spoke yesterday at the rally outside the Supreme Court uh here's part of my remarks uh in front of the capital just to give you an idea of what the the scene was like here it is this case is About the rights of children it's about the right of a child to be protected from the that's what it's about children have the constitutional right the human right the god-given right to live and grow and learn about themselves and the world without being indoctrinated and exploited by people who reject the fundamental realities of existence

children have a right to go through phases to have moments Of in their own bodies just like every generation of children before them without that being seized on as a pretense to to their bodies now as you can probably tell trans activists were shouting into megaphones the entire time that I was speaking it happened to the other speakers too they were doing it the whole time uh the trans activist showed up in large numbers outside the court with the intention of making it difficult for us to speak and be heard And that's what I expected

would happen it is what happened leftists are very good at mobilizing protesters to show up and be as obnoxious as possible they're they're certainly much better at that than we are but they're still losing this fight um they're losing in the state legislatures they're losing in the culture and after yesterday's oral arguments it's pretty clear that they're about to lose in the Supreme Court as well every indication We have at this point is that a majority of the justices will vote to uphold Tennessee's ban on child mutilation and if that happens it won't just protect

millions of children in Tennessee and many other states have implemented similar bans will also clear the way for a national ban on these grotesque practices which have ruined the lives of Untold numbers of children uh the reason we can be confident in the outcome of this case is that one by one each of the Arguments from the Biden doj and the ACLU collapsed under questioning from the conservative justices in the majority and when the liberal justices tried their best to defend gender ideology somehow they only managed to make matters even worse and we predicted that

something like this would happen when they can't shout you down when they actually have to construct arguments and respond to objections trans activists tend to fall apart pretty quickly and That was the case um for the aclu's lead attorney in this case uh chase strangio a female Who quote identifies as a man and uh to give you some idea of the kind of person Chase strangio is she's posted a variety of emotionally charged unhinged content on social media over the years including this video in which she declared F the court so she's not exactly out

of Central casting for the job of arguing in front of the court uh watch So for Pride let us recognize that reproductive Justice is trans Justice is queer Justice our Liberation is not going to come from the courts we it is not going to come from Congress it is going to come from us it's going to come from our histories of knowing exactly how to take care of each other how to get each other health care how to say unjust laws and F this court quite frankly um because that's not where Justice is going to

live so I am excited To be out here with all of you I'm excited to build upon the histories of Liberation and resistance that have been centuries in the making so this is the esteemed oror that the AC ACLU selected to argue in front of the Supreme Court yesterday someone who says F the court and then uploads it on social media um now in case it's not obvious this is yet another Dei selection Chase strangio identifies as trans so they Put her up there to get a headline out of it she's the first trans attorney

to argue at the Supreme Court and um and uh and so on that's the logic and it didn't go very well like all Dei hires Chase strangio crashed and burned um uh multiple times at one point during oral Arguments for example Justice Alo pressed strangio on the question of whether so-called gender affirming treatments actually help prevent suicides in children and and this is a Question that goes to the very heart of the trans agenda as well as the merits of the case uh a core argument in the aclu's petition that was that was filed with

Supreme Court is that child sex changes are necessary because they save lives it's also one of the most common refrains we hear from trans activists all the time this is a life-saving uh medicine they say they use that line would you rather have a living son or a dead daughter implying that it's better To castrate a child than lose that child to Suicide this is this is this is this is maybe their their number one argument in fact um now they don't use this line because it's accurate or grounded in reality they use it because

it's often very effective it's it's a it's a tool of emotional blackmail and it works or it has in the past and if you don't challenge the premise of the question which is false you might fall for it and give the trans activist what they want But Alo didn't accept the false premise and strangio had no follow-up had no way of dealing with that instead she admitted that there's no evidence that child sex changes quote unquote actually reduce the number of suicides in children uh pretty remarkable moment watch but on page 195 of the cast

report it says there is no evidence that gender affirmative treatments uh reduce suicide what I think that is referring To is there is no evidence in some in the studies that this treatment reduces completed suicide and the reason for that is completed suicide thankfully and admittedly is rare and we're talking about a very small population of of individuals with studies that don't necessarily have completed suicides within them however there are multiple studies long-term longitudinal studies that do show that there is a reduction in in suicidality which I I I think is a Is a positive

outcome to this treatment so this is what always happens when trans activists have to answer a follow-up question every single time this is what you get they'll make some outrageous claim and then you ask for evidence and they don't have any they'll shout you down if they can or in this context uh because they can't shot you down at the Supreme Court they're forced to admit that they were lying that it's not true and again you can't emphasize Enough this is one of the key claims of their whole case that the lawyer arguing the case

just admitted was false now what happened here is that Justice Alo noticed that the ACLU barely mentioned the cast report in their brief before the the court uh they put the cast report in a footnote and didn't address it in any meaningful way so Alita picked up on the fact that they wanted to bury the evidence they didn't like and then they were called out on They were called out on it and they had to admit that the cast report was devastating to their whole argument here we have the aclu's lead attorney admitting that according

to the data so-called gender affirming care doesn't actually reduce the rates of suicide among young people so what does this gender affirming care quote unquote accomplish Chase strangio goes on to claim that it reduces the number of young people People who say they want to kill themselves but doesn't really make sense either I mean if if you if you really did have some magical treatment that greatly reduced the number of people who say they want to kill themselves You' think that naturally the number of suicides would go down too but apparently that's not happening it's

enough to make you wonder if uh anything this tra Chase strangio person is saying is remotely true it Also raises questions about how exactly we're measuring the suicidality of young people but even if this new argument um did somehow make sense it's still a massive Retreat from the previous position of the Biden doj the ACLU trans activists they claimed for years that child sex changes were necessary because they were life-saving and uh and now they're finally admitting that they have no evidence to support that Contention they expected us to believe in absurdity that disfiguring a

child would save his life somehow on the basis of statistics and expert opinions that they were completely fabricating this was a devastating moment for the ACLU um the the doj the trans agenda also in general uh a devastating moment and the reason the ACLU and the Biden doj are almost certainly going to lose this case although we don't want to Count our chickens before they hatch but it looks very likely that they're going to lose um is that the Supreme Court and it's current makeup is reluctant to override the Democratic will of the voters on

account of experts and data that that are clearly unreliable if not totally invented and what strangio just admitted is that the experts in the data are indeed highly unreliable if not outright lies in his questions during oral arguments uh John Roberts made it Clear that this is a big problem for the government's case the alleged consensus among medical organizations on on this issue has collapsed largely because of countries like Sweden and the UK and that makes it very hard for the Supreme Court to overturn the Democratic will of the people Justice Kavanaugh uh made the

same point listen if it's evolving like that and changing and England's pulling back and Sweden's pulling back it strikes me as you know Pretty heavy yellow light if not red light for this court to come in the nine of us and to constitutionalize the whole area when the rest of the world or at least the people who the countries that have been at the Forefront of this are you know pumping the brakes on this kind of treatment because of concerns about the risk that's a good way of putting it and that that's what the AC

and the Biden Administration wants the the as Cav all Points out the whole rest of the world you know they the they are they either never engaged in this madness to begin with OR they're pulling back from it and the Biden Administration the ACLU they want to go the opposite way and uh in in you know put this into the the Constitution engrave it in the Constitution you have a that these doctors have a constitutional right to do this to kids now the other major problem for the doj And the ACLU is that in their

understanding uh anyone can become transgender at any moment I mean that's the entire concept underpinning gender ideology if you want to be a woman just say you're a woman and it's true if you change your mind at any point you can switch back no problem somebody could be a man and a woman on the same day if they want now this is an attractive proposition for you know narcissistic People who think that they can play God over over you know themselves and and biology but practically in this case it creates a lot of issues that's

because a key argument that the ACLU and the B Administration are making is that the Tennesse uh the Tennessee's ban violates the equal protection Clause of the Constitution on the ground that it grounds that it supposedly treats people differently depending on an immutable characteristic namely their Sex so here here's the aclu's argument they say that under this law if you're a boy and you need puberty blockers to address a medical issue like precocious puberty then you can get puberty blockers but if you're a girl and you want puberty blockers in order to stall your physical

development in order to affirm your sense of gender identity you can't get them therefore they say the law is discriminating on the basis of sex now there are about Four major problems with this more than four but the whole thing is nonsensical but just to highlight four first of all the purpose of the medical intervention is vastly different in those two cases I just mentioned the boy in that example wants to get puberty blockers in order to address the condition of an abnormally premature puberty while the perfectly healthy girl wants puberty blockers to suppress the

normal and healthy functions and development of her Body these not just different reasons for getting the puberty blockers they are like opposite reasons so the law is treating people differently here but not based on their sex it's treating them differently based on the kind of treatment they want and the reason they wanted and it's normal for a law to distinguish between situations like that because certain kinds of medical interventions are far more dangerous than others they're not The same thing okay if a child has cancer the benefits of giving the child chemotherapy probably outweighs the

risks if a child doesn't have cancer then giving the child chemotherapy would be child abuse it would be torture it's this it's it's the exact same procedure but in one case it's okay in another case it's not how could that be the case well because in one case it's it's treating a legitimate illness And in other case it isn't so pretty obvious distinction there another problem here is that in every other equal protection case that involves sex discrimination uh one gender can clearly say that they're losing out you know in some way there's usually some

obvious injury to a member of One gender and not the other so for example maybe a man is denied a job while a woman is hired solely on the basis of sex you know Something like that but that's not the case here the Tennessee law applies to both girls and boys equally it's not negatively affecting either group in fact it's positively affecting everybody it's protecting all kids regardless of sex um but but but also regardless it it applies the same regardless of your sex and that was an observation that Clarence Thomas made at one point

during the arguments additionally Clarence Thomas also pointed out that you know if You think about it what the ACLU is seeking in this case would actually produce its own form of sex discrimination the ACLU wants the plaintiff in the case a girl who identifies as a boy to get drugs that would enable her to undergo a quote traditional male puberty but if the ACLU won the case boys wouldn't get the same result they wouldn't be able to get puberty blockers to undergo a male puberty and as Clarin was pointed out Using AC on logic that's

a form of sex discrimination the fourth fatal problem with the aclu's argument is that as Justice Alo observed trans ident identity is not an immutable characteristic through the miracle of gender ideology somebody can supposedly become a man in the morning and then revert back to being a woman in the evening in other words so-called trans status is not fixed and only immutable fixed Characteristics like race can qualify for protection under our civil rights laws that's why this was this was such a big moment um in oral arguments yesterday strangio was eventually forced to admit that

indeed trans identification is not an immutable characteristic uh another huge moment listen to this does a category of uh does transgender status apply to individuals who are gender Fluid I I think that the the distinguishing characteristic is to have a birth sex that does not align with uh or a gender that does not align with one's uh birth sex so it it may include people who have different understandings of of their gender identity but I think it is still the distinguishing characteristic of a birth sex and a gender identity that are in congruent are there

individuals who uh are born male assigned male at Birth who at one Point uh identify as female but then later uh come to identify as male and likewise for individuals who were assigned female at Birth at some point identify as ma as female I'm sorry identify as male but later come to identify as female are there not such people there are such people I agree with that J so it's not an immutable characteristic is it well I think people's understanding of of it of it shifts but the evidence shows that there Is at least a

strong underlying basis and the I think the normative reason for that particular consideration is whether or not this is something that someone should or could change and whether they should have to change it in order to receive uh constitutional protections and I think transgender status squarely fits within so uh once again at all devolves into word salad and once again the one of the the the you know one of the pivotal uh aspects of the aclu's Case just absolutely crumbled I they had to admit the trans status is not immutable that alone like that alone

means you lose that's if that's the case which of course it is uh if it's the case that trans status is not immutable by the and that's accepting the ACLU and the trans activist own argument like accepting them just just letting them tell us what it means to be trans according to them even it's not immutable so the whole case is out the Window so we've already heard two or three examples where if you just took just just like one moment just any one of these moments isolated would destroy the whole case but then you

add them all together and you have uh just an absolute meltdown which means that chase strangio big day at the Supreme Court didn't go very well to put it mildly um no one could have seen that coming but uh you know that's what happened actually it's pretty clear that everyone Saw it coming which is why the Biden Administration solicitor general Elizabeth uh prer did most of the arguing yesterday in her remark she conceded that some of this gender affirming care so-called uh results in the sterilization of children but she said it was worth it uh

anyway here here's her reasoning you mentioned fertility and regret and I'd like to take both of those concerns headon I do want to Acknowledge that there is evidence to suggest that gender affirming care with respect to hormones can have some impacts on fertility I think you have to recognize that the effect of denying this care is to to produce irreversible physical effects that are consistent with their birth sex because they have to go through puberty before they turn 18 so essentially what this law is doing is saying we're going to make all Adolescence in the

state develop the Physical SE secondary sex characteristics consistent with their gender or with their sex assigned at Birth even though that might significantly worsen gender dysphoria increase the risk of suicide and I think critically make it much harder to live and be accepted in their gender identity as an adult because if you're requiring someone to undergo a male puberty and they develop an Adam apple that's going to be hard to reverse and they're more Likely to be identified as transgender and subject to discrimination and harassment as adults uh just utter nonsense this of course is

the so-called forced puberty argument she's saying that Ten's law is what forces children done to go puberty even though they might not want to she says quote what does law is doing is saying we're going to make all Adolescence in the state develop the physical secondary sex Characteristics consistent with their gender or with their sex assigned at Birth well no the law in Tennessee isn't making anyone develop secondary sex characteristics that's just nature okay that's that's what happens naturally that's the normal series of events that occurs as children get older uh I mean it it's

no different than saying that you know if you won't let a nine-year-old get a nose job uh that you're you're forcing the nine-year-old To have the nose that she was born with like no we we didn't create the nose that's just your nose and what we're saying is N9 years old is too young to go get cosmetic surgery um so what the B Administration wants to do is to interrupt the natural development of children with completely untested chemicals that will sterilize them they're trying to reframe our position as somehow the unnatural one because they recognize

at some level That it's grotesque and extremely dangerous to conduct medical experiments on children and so they have to reduce themselves to these kinds of totally vacuous and absurd arguments in her questioning Sonia Sor pretended not to realize all this she tried to claim that there's no difference between castrating a child and giving a child an aspirin watch cannot eliminate the risk of D transitioners so it it becomes a pure exercise of of weighing benefits versus Risk and the question of how many miners have to have their bodies irreparably harmed for unproven benefits is one

that is best left I'm sorry counselor every medical treatment has a risk even taking aspirin um there is always going to be a percentage of the population under any medical treatment that's going to suffer a harm so the question in my mind is not um do policy makers decide whether one person's life is more valuable than the Millions of others who get relief from this treatment the question is can you stop one sex from the other uh this is one of those moments where we're all supposed to pretend that Sonia Sodor isn't a complete idiot

we're all supposed to pretend that she's a wise Latina who adds much needed diversity to the court it's all very degrading and intentionally so a JV debate team would desand in shame if they ever made the argument you just Heard there and and this is the highest court in the land okay aspirin is one of the most tested medicines on the planet we know every side effect we have all the information there is to have about it we we know what ages can safely take it what ages cannot we know everything about what the dosage

is supposed to be aspirin does not pretend to change in a mutable characteristic like your sex there is no aspirin report in the UK that shows that there's no benefit to Taking aspirin but the son Sor taking an aspirin and castrating yourself in order to affirm a subjective gender identity are the same thing no differences that she can detect but Sodor didn't stop there as a noted feminist Sodor went on to compare a girl with unwanted hair to a girl with quote unwanted breasts she actually drew that comparison without missing a beat and then the

lawyer for the state of Tennessee informed her that you know those are two very different things watch the question is can you stop one sex from the other one person of one sex from another sex from receiving that benefit so if the medical condition is unwanted hair by a 9-year-old boy who can receive estrogen for that because at 9 years old if he has hair he gets laughed at and picked on and his puberty is coming in too Early but a a girl who has unwanted hair says or wants unwant has unwanted breast or a

boy at that age can get that drug but the other can't that's the sex based difference it's not the med the medical condition is the same we don't you're saying one sex is getting it and the other's not we do not agree that the medical condition is the same we do not think that giving puberty blockers to a six-year-old that has started precocious puberty is the same medical treatment as Giving it uh to a minor who wants to uh to transition those are not the same medical treatment uh uh yeah right I mean yes it's

not the same and this it's it's this is really has always been the primary challenge of debating uh the left on this issue on so many other issues too but in particularly on this one that their arguments are so dumb they are so stupid they are so mindboggling lingly off base that you You you don't even know where to begin in in responding to them they can kind of you you you might uh fall fall into a kind of stupified Silence when you hear stuff like this um because when she says that it's like what

what hair and breasts are two different things I mean can we start with the fact that one is a physical part of your body that uh if you get rid of that part of your body it will not grow back but hair does so we could start with that you Know same reason that like cutting your hair and cutting off your arm are not the same things well we we let children we take children to barber shops to cut off their hair why couldn't we cut off their arm answer that now counselor now if you

understand these oral arguments as a competition among the Dei justices to out Dum each other then it starts to make a little bit more sense that's especially true after you See what koni brown Jackson did um she went ahead and compared Tennessee's law to a ban on interracial marriage this is the same Justice who Les we forget couldn't even Define the word woman during her confirmation hearing and now she's saying that in effect there's no difference between protecting kids from castration and preventing white people from marrying black people watch being drawn by the statute that

was sort of like the starting point the Question was whether it was discriminatory because it applied to both races and it wasn't you know necessarily invidious or whatever but you know as I read the statute here the excuse me the case here um you know the court starts off by saying that Virginia is now one of 16 states which prohibit and punish marriages on the basis of racal classifications and when you look at the structure of that law it looks in terms of incon you know you can't do Something that is inconsistent with your own

characteristics it's sort of the same thing so it's interesting to me that we now have this different argument I wonder whether Virginia could have gotten away with what they did here by just making a classification argument the way uh that Tennessee is in this case yes I think that's exactly right that there is absolutely a parallel between any law that says you can't act inconsistent with a protected Characteristic uh this is what you get when you select justices based on race they're only capable of talking about race they have to shoehorn every single issue into

some racial framework because it's all they know it got them to this point in their career so what else are they going to do and in this case you know not that it really needs to be said but there is no comparison between Tennessee's ban on child castration and Virginia's long Defunct law Banning interracial marriage for one thing Virginia's law prevented adults from marrying based on their immutable characteristics okay Tennessee's law as we've already discussed does not do any of that it prevents minors from undergoing experimental sex changes not because of their immutable characteristics but

because these attempts to change their sex are actively harmful to them and also impossible okay they're trying to Do an impossible thing it's an affront to basic biology okay it's a law that's saying we can you you cannot do intentional harm to a child all in an attempt to uh bring about a result that is fundamentally impossible it's not fundamentally impossible for a black person to marry a white person that's a very possible thing to happen it is fun mentally impossible for a boy to become a girl and so any attempt to turn him into

one Will uh constitutes abuse in the worst form as far as I could tell based on these oral arguments this is looking like a six to3 decision in favor of Tennessee um the best the ACU could hope for is that the Supreme Court somehow finds that this law does indeed discriminate on the basis of sex and if that happens the case goes back to the six circuit for a rerun of their analysis with a slightly higher standard Of of review of the law but but that outcome also appears to be very unlikely at this point

for the most part the conservative justices asked good questions demonstrated their skepticism of gender ideology there were some moments that raised uh some eyebrows like when John Roberts referred to chase strangio as Mister even though she's a female there's also the fact that no conservative Justice directly refuted the unscientific madeup terminology the Biden doj used like for example a gender assigned at Birth and so on um the justi mostly accepted some of the definitions and framing of the activists which they shouldn't have done but in general we got exactly what we wanted the trans activists

appear to be losing this fight and they know it we are nearing the culmination of the battle that we began uh that really began began uh years and years and years ago uh but in terms of of this law you know that Could be one of the catalysts of that was the the Vanderbilt expose that we published um you know all of these activists can do now all they could do as they did yesterday is just scream into the abyss in the meantime we'll continue fighting to ensure that these people won't be able to ruin

the life of another child if this CA case goes the way we expect it to it's it's not the end of the fight it's the start actually of a whole new fight of of an effort to Ban this Butchery Nationwide and then to defeat gender ideology entirely we can start by cutting all federal funding to the gender industry and that'd be a good good easy place to start something could be done right away and from there we go on uh with with the ultimate goal a total ban on this practice so this is a victory

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this this moment on CNN uh as you know the media was covering this uh Supreme Court case um and this was uh there was actually two things that make this this Moment interesting to me um as they were uh I think talking to someone with the liance defending freedom and uh I want you to listen to what the CNN anchor says and how how this exchange goes listen I think a lot of people are confused about this issue they don't know where they stand on it but where is the room for a conversation about this

I'd love that we're having one right now in terms of a conversation and that's what was an issue today what kid what Girl is knows whether she's going to want to have a baby long term or what testosterone will do to her uterus or that she will increase her risk of heart attack by taking drugs some some of them do no no none of them no I I don't think none of them none of them do 85% what we know from the science and again it's about not putting ideology over evidence and and that's what's

Happening Here yeah I love that moment some of them do no no you no uh I just the Patronizing tone was perfectly appropriate and I really liked it there uh but I I think so this I I said there were two two things here first is just the the framing by the CNN anchor and we're hearing this more and more from the left about this issue you notice how she how how she starts she says well is there room for conversation can't we at least talk about it so that's already a retreat okay there very

there's very much a Retreat going on on the left especially in the mainstream media on this issue because as I've been saying for a while now they they they're embarrassed of the issue most of these people know that they're totally wrong about it that they're just on the wrong side um most of them are know that because most of them are not crazy uh they so they they they do I mean despite appearances they do in fact know that that this is totally wrong um But they were much more gung-ho about it a few years

ago even though they knew it was wrong because it seemed like the political the The Winning Side politically and culturally and now it isn't um and so now if you're on the left and especially if you're you know in in the public if you have a platform and you go out and defend the idea that we should chemically castrate children or you defend the idea that men can get pregnant or any this other Nonsense um you are saying something you know isn't true you're saying something you know is crazy you're embarrassing yourself and you're not

even on The Winning Side so you're doing all of that you're disgracing yourself for a side that isn't even winning like there's no benefit anymore to you so what you're seeing is this kind of uh this Retreat and this recalibration and so now you get a lot of stuff like this where the CNN anchor well well can't we talk about Isn't there room for a conversation uh yeah well you know what that's that's sure we can talk about it let's that's that's what we've been saying for years let's let's have a conversation about it um

now it's it's there's not much to actually talk about because you you on that side are just totally completely wrong and you have not you have no argument you have no evidence you have no logic you have no common sense everything you're saying is is is Clearly objectively wrong and not to mention just totally incoherent but if you want to talk about it sure we're not the ones who have ever been scared about talking about this issue but you guys were the ones for years that were doing everything you could to shut down any conversation

about this okay you were the ones tell if we tried to talk about it on any platform we would get uh deplatformed sensored shut down okay so you you're The ones who have prevented that from happening prevented this conversation from taking place um but now sure you want to let's let's talk we're going to continue beating you and we're going to continue advancing our agenda which our agenda is just simple truth and Common Sense and basic human decency um but yeah we could talk about it in the meantime and they were talking about it there

and we hear from The CNN anchor that uh well the alliance the woman with Alliance defending Freedom says that makes the very obvious point that you know when when you sterilize a child when you do these irreversible things to a child uh the child is now sacrificing something that they don't understand what they're sacrificing you know a child can't make the can't actually consent to uh The the decision to for example not have kids in the future to not to in the future not be uh apparent they can't actually make that decision because they have

no idea what that means and they have no idea what they're going to want to do or how their priorities are going to change when they're adults so no child can know that no young girl at the age of 10 or whatever can say oh yeah I know for a Fact I'm never going to want to be a mother when I got I'll never want that 20 years from now I'm not going to want on it no 10-year-old girl can say that they can say it they they can physically say it but they can't know

it um and that was the the point that that we heard there and the only thing the CNN anchor could says well well really all of them are you saying no no child no child could possibly know that yeah that's what we're saying yes no Child no child can possibly know um what they're going to want or what kind of Life they're going want to lead uh or what or what you know uh uh big decisions they're going to make about for themselves and about their lives when they're adults no child can know that the

fact that a child says as a child I'm not going to want to have children in the future that doesn't mean anything okay as I've said many times what up until the age of as recently as The age of 23 or 24 I would have told you that yeah I don't even know if I really want to have have kids uh now I have six of them you know so uh if you would ask me when I was 10 I like I yeah if if if you'd ask me when I was 10 do I want

to have kids in the future I almost certainly would have said no I don't want what I want to have little M running around I'm I'm a pain in the ass I don't want I don't want I wouldn't want to have to deal with this um of Course a child says that and thinks that way uh so just total total nonsense um all right staying on the same general plane here D wire has this report the ladies professional Golf Association tour has announced a major change to its eligibility rules for competition for transgender identifying male

players starting in 2025 on Wednesday the LPGA released findings From its working uh Group which included experts in Medicine Science Sports physiology golf performance and gender policy law that found quote the effects of male puberty confer competitive advantages in golf performance compared to players who have not undergone male puberty uh the statement read quote under the new policy athletes who are assigned female at Birth are eligible to compete on the LPGA Tour Epson tour ladies European tour and in all other Elite LPGA competitions it added quote players assigned male at Birth and who have gone

through male puberty are not eligible to compete in the aformentioned events the policies governing the lpga's recreational programs and non- Elite events utilize different criteria to provide opportunities for participation in the broader LPGA Community the move comes after trans identifying male golfer Haley Davidson had competed in the nxxt tour before the group changed Its rules and was removed the move on Wednesday now cuts off Davidson's possible path to the tour or Epson tours after competing in Q school in the fall as the player inched closer to qualifying for an LPGA Tour card Davidson a formally

played on a men's Collegiate golf team took to Instagram after the gender eligibility rule change was announced Davidson wrote quote can't say I I didn't see this coming banned from the Epson and LPGA all the Silence and people wanting to stay neutral thanks for absolutely nothing this happened because of all of your silence and somehow people are surprised the suicide rate for transgender people is around 50% situations just like this are part of the reason so the trans golfer has the emotional blackmail there at the end as usual uh as we cover in the opening

this is a favorite tactic of these people the essentially threatens to kill himself Because he didn't get his way and this this is what trans activists do they put a proverbial gun to their own heads and say give me what I want or I'll pull the trigger and for a long time the country acquiesced to their Ransom demands but that isn't happening anymore you know the tactic isn't working because now the answer to this kind of threat is the answer it always should have been which is look we don't want you to hurt yourself uh

we hope you don't we hope You get the help you need but we're we're not going to let you manipulate and control okay it doesn't work that way you can't say give me everything I want or something bad's going to happen to me because I'm going to do it to myself it it it it that it doesn't work that way you can't get what you want in adult life that way I mean for a while you were able to but that time is over uh you're going to make whatever Choice you're going to make uh

you're going to respond however you choose to respond we can't control that we can't control your actions but we can say that you're not going to control ours and that has been the response finally and even now an organization like the LPGA uh is getting it right um I mean mostly right you know because they stipulate that if an athlete was assigned male at Birth and has undergone male puberty then they're not eligible To compete in women's golf uh the effect of this policy is that it's going to eliminate the vast majority of trans identified

males who would want to play in women's golf like Haley Davidson the person who uses the name Haley Davidson but it it does technically leave the door open for males to compete um they just have to be males who never underwent male puberty which is to say males who were chemically castrated with gender transition drugs at a young age Like that's that's what the um the policy actually says and allows and this is a door that shouldn't be left open uh first because even a male in that camp is still a male and second because

such a policy implicitly even if unintentionally endorses and even encourages the use of puberty blockers and all of that becomes an argument for giving these drugs to Children a bad argument but an argument that you will Hear from the trans activist and they're going to say okay well I guess that means we got to that's all the more reason why we got to give these drugs to kids at the youngest age possible so the decision here isn't perfect but it is a lot better than the previous policy of letting any male who says he's a

a woman into the competition uh so it's a marked improvement and aside from leaving the door cracked open a bit more than showed it it's a common sense policy it's the Kind of policy that should have been in place all along and it really is um it well it's frustrating for me at one level when I see all of these organizations reversing their you know so-called trans inclusive policies and embracing common sense and science all again and what's frustrating about it even though I'm happy about the policies I do have to Think okay great was

that so hard why didn't you say this from the beginning you know when I hear the LPGA now in the year 2024 say well we've we've looked into this and we we decided men can't compete why couldn't you have said that 10 years ago I why why did it take you all this time what wasn't very hard to say was it um now we don't have to dwell on this aspect of things right now there will Come a time for that maybe in the future um for now we don't have to dwell on it for

now the only thing that really matters is that everybody gets on board with common sense and biology and protecting women's spaces protecting children protecting men too so we need everybody on board I welcome everybody on board um I throw up in my arms and I embrace any of the prodigal sons who return home to the the land of reality okay but I can't forget the past 10 Years where so many people uh seemingly the majority of people really openly affirmed or silently cow toow to this insane agenda you know that went along with this idea

that men can become women and vice versa and all of that and I I can't forget that um and all the people who went along with it and all the organizations that went along with it I I remember that uh and we should all remember it because we'll never be able to Trust any of the those people again or take them seriously again and that that once again I'm not saying yeah we welcome everybody in please come in pleas please come in out of the cold leave this madness behind and come back to reality uh

and I certainly welcome that but but it doesn't you know it's a little bit of a forgive but don't forget kind of thing that I we can't just pretend all this didn't happen Um and there is a a PR for getting something like this wrong like the trans ideology issue if you got it wrong uh there's a price and the price is simply that your credibility is permanently shot forever um you know and we don't have to Hash that out right now let's finish the job of defeating gender ideology um and then we can figure

out what happens going forward and we can talk about whose Voices and opinions can be taken seriously in the future and who's can't um because if if you didn't immediately sniff this thing out for what it is and understand that it had to be opposed if you didn't have the common sense or the gumption or the courage to do that then like I said it's just uh it's just something we keep in mind in the future we just can't rely on you um and we can't trust you and you Have no credibility but um even

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cancellation this time there because there were two massive stories news stories unfolding yesterday and I wanted to have a chance to talk about both of them which means that our normal closing segment has to be pushed offer today uh and that's because today marks the third day of jury deliberations in a trial that never should have occurred in the first place that's possible but that by the time you listen to this the verdict will have already been decided And announced um but as I say these words they are still in deliberations uh New York of

course is Prosecuting Daniel peny for the crime of Defending a subway car full of passengers from a violent Maniac named Jordan Ney uh on May 1st of last year neie who at the time had an active warrant out for his arrest for assaulting a woman on subway boarded a subway car in Manhattan and announced that he wasn't afraid to go to prison and that quote someone is going to die Today multiple people on the train later said that they had never been more terrified in their lives Penny then put Neely in a neck restraint and

eventually Neely died New York medical examiner office says that Neely died of neck compr compression but a texas-based forensic pathologist retained by the defense says that New York's experts are wrong and that the Neely in fact died due to a combination of factors including a Sickle Cell crisis caused by Exertion schizophrenia and his use of synthetic marijuana so it's a George Floyd type scenario all over again and we've been through the outline of this case many times before we've been following this case closely as you know uh ever since it it it you know the

incident first occurred on the subway and I believe it is one of the most important murder trials uh in American history and so at this point the details don't bear Repeating if you've been listening to the show you know uh you know all of them it's well established that a functioning San society would be giving Daniel Penny an award for doing what the state refused to do which is to protect its cens from an unstable lifelong criminal with dozens of Prior arrests but as these deliberations stretch into their third dat it's becoming clear that at

least some people in New York disagree this is not an easy verdict for These jurors apparently it should be uh but it isn't and just by itself that's a very Stark commentary on where things stand right now in our nation's largest city the fact that Daniel peny wasn't acquitted in two seconds tells you that for all intents and purposes the right of self-defense has been nullified in New York you can act to defend yourself and others um in the most obvious manner imaginable and yet still face a very real Prospect of Spending up to 15

years in prison so unfortunately no matter what happens from here on out and hopefully they come back with not guilty but it it cannot be a truly happy conclusion at this point the happiest conclusion is that after deliberating for days and days they find not him not guilty it's obviously what we're praying for but but we couldn't even call that a happy conclusion at this point because number one the case was brought in the First place and number two the jury had to deliberate about it for days rather than going back and you know talking

it over for two minutes and maybe having a lunch break and then coming out and saying yeah of course not guilty now the more you look into why exactly this case was brought and how it was conducted the more it becomes clear that this case really isn't about Daniel Penny or anything did it's about something called restorative justice and You don't have to look very hard to see that restorative justice in Practical terms is a system of race-based punishment so here for example is a video that's been going viral the last couple days of the

prosecutor in the penny case a woman named daphna yuran She's an assistant DA in Manhattan and in this clip she's discussing a previous case from 2019 in which she explains uh her decision to go easy on a 57-year-old black man who killed an 87-year-old Asian college professor professor while robbing him at an ATM machine now Juran says that she felt sorry for the 57y old black man and so she decided to pursue manslaughter charges instead of felony murder watch I had a uh a murder uh case where the uh defendant did not intentionally kill the

victim he went into an ATM on the upper west side and tried to Rob um an individual unfortunately it was an older individual He was 86 and um in the course of the robbery he fell to the ground and as a result he died this is under the law a felony murder which is akin to intentional murder however when I first got the case I learned um I took the time to learn about the defendant and uh it was a strong case so it wasn't about who done it I knew immediately who did it I

could prove it I could take it to trial that day and When it but it wasn't about that it was that um the more I learned about the defendant and his life and the circumstances the kinds of things that Jerelle was talking about um that one should take into account the trauma of that individual um I really felt incredibly sorry for him that he had gotten to that point in his life where he felt like there was no other choice but to to commit the this Robbery so Juran is very concerned about the emotional trauma

that the killer supposedly suffered but she's much less concerned with the actual trauma that the 85-year-old man suffered trauma which killed him and therefore she came up with an arrangement that would reduce the Killer's potential sentence from 25 years to life imprisonment all the way down to 10 years and he won't even serve anywhere near the full 10 years he's eligible for pero next year in fact now To be clear because it's not obvious from that clip um the victim in this case didn't like slip on a banana peel while he was being robbed uh

he he this wasn't some freak accident the 87y old victim was hit in the back of the head by a man 30 years younger than he was we're talking about a violent felony that occurred there was clear intent to cause serious and potentially fatal injury at a minimum So What might explain doran's Sympathy for a murderer who killed someone while committing a felony even as she demonstrates no sympathy whatsoever for Daniel Penny unlike the ATM murderer Daniel peny didn't set out to commit a violent felony he didn't attack an innocent elderly man so that he

could steal $300 instead he responded to the actions of a violent felon who was terrorizing everybody around him but yuran sympathies are strangely absent this Time around now online there are reports that DNE yuran is a a lesbian who's married to a BLM activist and that's not particularly surprising what we're seeing in this case is a clear example of race-based restorative justice the ATM killer was black Daniel Daniel Penny's white so he's not entitled to sympathy he's not entitled to the right of self-defense either he needs to be punished solely on account of his skin

color that's what this is really about That's why throughout the trial the prosecution has repeatedly referred to Daniel peny as the white man so here's one exchange from the courtroom for example this is the da asking questions and a witness answering quote question when you saw the white man holding on to Mr Neely how were they answer his arm was on his neck question where is Mr ne's back with respect to the white man was Mr Neely laying on top of the white man answer like this he had him held the Doors opened question did

the white man's arm ever leave Mr ne's Neck answer not that I saw the racial emphasis was so overt and so over the top that Penny's lawyer made reference to it when it was his turn to cross-examine the witness he began quote the prosecutor kept calling him the white man I'm going to call him Danny is that okay the witness replied that it was indeed okay the defense has also sought a mistrial over this which of Course the judge denied uh in New York Soros Das have no problem reminding jurors that white people deserve to

be punished while black defendants should get out of jail as quickly as possible even when they bludgeon elderly Asian men to death the prosecution has uh used a bunch of other dirty arguments too for example they used Penny's interrogation footage to portray him as callous and indifferent to Jordan Neely uh here's part of that Footage Daniel I'm detecting McCarthy this is where you're at right now cool how you doing today I'm doing well how you guys very good very Gooding I'm doing well you sered in r i did served in the r oh nice nice

got my little death before the there you go nice man um what you do what was your MOS I was in 0351 I was a 0331 oh cool weapons put to nice man I was not military so I don't know what that stuff Is it's like another language Third Battalion six Marines okay there you go 96 to 2000 two Med fls did my thing and then I ended up here now I got close to 22 years here now man good pension coming up yeah John there um I forget what stop it was at but some

guy came in and he's like whipped his jacket off and he's like I'm going to kill everybody I'm going to I'm going to I can go to prison forever I I don't care I don't do this at that point I I look to the Person next to me like hey just hang on to this phone for me I had my headphones in took it off and just kind of like grabbed them from behind cuz he came in just to like cuz he was acting like a lunatic like a crazy person so and he was rolling

around the floor abely High something like that I mean those that K2 that they're smoking pushing people in front like these people are going crazy so so he seemed he seemed more now a key Point here is that at This point during the interview Daniel Penny did not know that Jordan Neely was dead he also thought that law enforcement was on his side so he spoke to them without a lawyer which is always a huge mistake um then he proceeds to describe Jordan Ney as a crazy unhinged crackhead which is true and now a big

part of the prosecution's closing argument is that Daniel penny in this interrogation wasn't using nice words to describe jordany they're saying that he He he shouldn't have called him a crackhead or referenced all the other violent Thugs who pushed people in front of subway cars that's the evidence that Daniel Penny should go to prison that he wasn't telling the cops that Jordan Neely was a talented Michael Jackson impersonator he wasn't mourning the BLM martyr he was saying things about Neely that were true he was revealing perhaps that he has a negative opinion of violent crackheads

just like Everybody else on the planet who isn't a violent crackhead or who isn't apparently a New York da this is an injustice that's so undeniable that the city's mayor Eric Adams has just come out once again to essentially say that Daniel penny is getting railroaded he didn't use those exact words and he says he can't comment on jury verdicts and so on but he makes it clear that this prosecution is completely corrupt um he also criticized The media for portraying Jordan Neely as a Michael Jackson impersonator instead of a career felon listen should look

at that on a a multi-faceted approach of everything that's wrong with the system that we're facing uh one uh look at the photo that they used to uh show the victim it seemed like it was a young innocent child who was uh brutally uh murdered uh and it gave that impression when you looked at the photo that was being used It wanted to set up in the minds of people that we were dealing with the young innocent child uh that you know just a Michael Jackson Intimidator that you know was just brutally assaulted then you

look at the complete failure of our mental health system a complete failure from the days of closing psychiatric Wards and having those who needed help just turned over into the street now we're on the we're on the subway where we're hearing Someone talking about hurting people killing people you have someone on that Subway who was responding doing what we should have done as a city in a state of having a better a mental health uh facility those passengers were afraid I'm hoping that the juries are will hear all the facts based on all the facts

that's laid out a jury of his peers would make the right decision and I don't want to prejudge that I'm just looking at all the facts That are involved here and what we did to get to where we are and what we're seeing because that could have easily been a case where you saw three innocent people murdered on our street of two weeks ago so Eric Adam says that the media portrayed Jordan Neely as a Michael Jackson Intimidator instead of an impersonator because word are very challenging for the mayor of New York we can't expect

too much here from the Leader of the biggest city in the United States but you do have to give Eric Adamson credit for being the only Democrat in the entire country to contradict the official narrative on this thing even if he's doing it as tepidly as he possibly can in New York this is what passes for bravery at the moment pretty much no one else is standing up for Daniel peny there are BLM mobs outside the courthouse every day they're so loud that jurors can Apparently hear them inside the courthouse 13 floors up um it's

like the trial of Dereck chovin all over again everyone on the jury knows that uh they all know that if they quit the city will probably burn um which makes this whole procedure totally invalid but again whether the jur the jurors ultimately bow to that pressure or not the fact that the jury has taken so long to reach a verdict is already a pretty clear sign that the Right of self-defense doesn't exist anymore in New York City there are no guarantees in New York that that you can defend yourself or others even when a violent

felon storms your subway car and vows to kill people instead especially if white your only guarantee is that a Soros da will try to destroy your life that is the reality that the Daniel Penney trial has laid bear it's an utter travesty of a prosecution and until all of these Das are removed from office we Can be sure that it won't be the last one and that'll do it for the show today thanks for listening thanks for watching talk to you tomorrow have a great day God Speak [Music] today on the Ben Shapiro show the

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