I do want to ask you about one collaborator in particular I know a lot of people have expressed disappointment and were really upset that you decided to involve Dr Luke on this album why did you choose to work with him look I I understand that it started a lot of conversations Katy Perry is getting candid the pop star sat down with Alex Cooper for the September 4th episode of call her daddy where she opened up about a range of personal topics including her relationship with f Orlando Bloom and their daughter daisy as well as her
childhood the two women kicked off by speaking about the environment which Katie was raised in a strict Christian household that didn't have much and also touched upon a rise to fame back to your childhood you've talked about having been on food stamps as a kid yeah my family had that time I mean we were only by the grace of what the church could offer us which fluctuated all the time that was that was our livelihood and you know we it wasn't very much can you describe your personality as a kid Black Sheep I was I
came out of the womb Going H tell me why you know why do you think that is I'm curious I'm super curious and that has been my education my whole life is my curiosity and that Curiosity has just continue to unravel the layers of life and you know I know myself so much more because of my curiosity um and so I just was like nothing was so um black and white white for me it was infinite you know it just I was like there's so much more out there how would you describe your household growing
up my household was a little volatile there was a lot of stressors money being the biggest one the biggest one I think I went to church on Sunday morning on Sunday night on Wednesdays we I've have I ever been trick-or-treating I think I've been trick-or-treating once I wasn't allowed to trick-or treat why it's a pagan holiday um and the devil's holiday or whatever you know uh we had prayer meeting instead H we didn't even acknowledge it I wasn't allowed to eat Lucky Charms because luck is derivative from Lucifer you know my mom was was and
still is really good at finding the positive and everything and I I do that but I think that's the gorgeous part of growing up right is like taking what your parents give you and we get to kind of be like no to this yes to this this and then you make your own reality they gave me my compass in a lot of ways they really gave me a lot of Integrity they taught me how to treat people did you ever go through a rebellious phase I'm still in it baby the hot and cold singer then
discussed her relationship with Orlando spilling about what drew the two together as well as their short breakup before reconciling while also hilariously sharing her love language and making an NSFW sex confession we do a lot of um couples therapy and we want to evolve that's like I think why we're in our relationship is to become better better humans so that we can raise this beautiful human being one of my Lov languages is acts of service so it's like if I come downstairs and the kitchen is clean and you've done it all and you've done all
the dishes and you've closed all the pantry doors you better you better be ready to get your sucked I mean like literally that is my love language I don't need a red Ferrari I can buy a red Ferrari just do the dishes I'm obsessed I it's not easy sorry don't you know it's facts it's facts and even when we went on like a coup's retreat they're like which guy has more sex the guy that drives the Ferrari the red Ferrari or the guy that helps out with his wife every night in the kitchen in the
kitchen was the answer K what initially Drew you to him his Adventure Spirit he's got a free spirit he's super healthy and he wants me to be healthy sometimes that can be annoying but um it's all for the good he shows up he is loyal he's a Capricorn he's not scared I don't know I don't know if this Capricorn trait is for everyone but what I've noticed and what he resonates with is that like he can get his hands dirty you know he's he he loves the elements um he's spontaneous um and he checks a
lot of boxes and not everyone's going to not one person's going to check check all the boxes you know what I'm saying was it an initial spark or was it a slow burn um it's been it's been different layers the more we do the work the more we find the next level yeah you know and sometimes we get stuck and we're like okay well let's go into do the work and this is going to be annoying and I don't want to do it and we don't have the time and I'm tired but we're going to
do it but we're going to do it and then we find the next level and that's that's why we're continuing in the relationship how did you guys decide to break up oh we so what happened was we weren't we weren't like like really in it from day one I mean he was in a way because he had just done a huge um time of celibacy and he had set intentions and I was fresh out of relationship and I was just like I can't do this anymore I need to go into a swim in a different
Pond but um I had yet to do a lot of like some real work Katie and Alex also spoke about the importance of self-growth I want to ask you another question that you mentioned about you know being a boss and being so successful and how intimidating that can be to Partners and I'm sure like you kind of just mentioned you've been in relationships where and I've been in it where I've dated guys that I'm like oh my God you're so intimidated by my success and they don't even know how to verbalize it and for a
minute if you're not in the best place like I've been there where I for a moment was like oh should I dim myself more should I been there I have dimmed right I have dimmed you Dim because you're like it you you can't see it immed you also want to play the game play a role not be too much so you're like okay like maybe I should take off this day so he feel what and now I'm taking up space I'm taking up space and it's like you can't win with those people and I feel
like it's hard with the there's one girl listening and she's like they're talking to me I have to go they're talking to me also in their conversation the 39-year-old opened up about motherhood and her daughter Daisy when she came into my life and she is a true king she is a real king she's very strong willed very outspoken beautiful and such an empath she's very heart-c centered I mean on the playground at the beach when we were in London there was a girl that fell and literally she gave her lollipop to her and I was
like you love lollipops you gave her you gave your lollipop away to her and it just made her so it made the little girl that fell feel so good and so Daisy is such a kind empath and cares and worries about the world and she has got a great intuition as well she's my gift I think for doing all that work too we intentionally brought her into this world we knew we wanted to have a child we knew we were going to okay let's do it let's do it as a celebration of all the work
that we've done together and create this being and so she's the gift she is exactly what I get for doing that and I'm continuing to do the work at the end of the episode Alex asked the California girl singer about her decision to work with Dr Luke for her new album despite backlash Dr Luke had previously been involved in a long-standing defamation lawsuit with Kesha that has since been settled after she accused him of drugging and raping her which he denied Katie acknowledged Dr Luke's contribution to her new album but explained how she wanted the
music to focus on her own personal life experiences I do want to ask you about one collaborator in particular I know a lot of people have expressed disappointment and were really upset that you decided to involve Dr Luke on this album why did you choose to work with him look I I understand that it started a lot of conversations and he was one of many collaborators that I collaborated with but the reality is it comes from me the truth is I wrote these songs from my experience of my whole life going through this metamorphosis and
he was one of the people to help facilitate all that one of the writers one of the producers and and I am speaking from my own experience like when I speak from when I speak about Woman's World I speak about feeling so empowered now as a mother as a woman giving birth creating life creating a another set of organs a brain a heart I created a whole ass heart and I did it and I'm still doing it and I'm still a matriarch and feeling really grounded in that that's where I'm speaking from and so I
created all of this with several different collaborators people that I've collaborated with from the past from Teenage Dream era all of that [Music]
