Epstein Files Released & Negotiations Break Down and so War with Iran Imminent

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uh Jewish supremacy. Something he spoke about a lot on the file release. So, we Broke that down and went through it. So, do um I'm just I'm just tweeting this out now. So, yeah, do check that out. The um the video, it's a really really good video. So, check it out. Well, let me see. What's it called? Um okay, we are live on YouTube and come and chat. Cool. Okay. So, the YouTube link is out. I'm just going to put it in the nest for you guys. And we did do a Video on Epstein files

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got any news before I jump in with the news or any information you want to say? >> Hey, hey, hey. Hello everybody. Hi Suland Ed, brother Public. I see Harana's um disconnecting. I think um GD needed a rest today and so did I because we really spent a lot of time trying to keep that base on track last night. Um really took a lot of effort and we were Really tired at the end of it. But um hopefully you can help us today Sulman and try it. >> You sound like you sound like you're battered

and bruised. >> Hopefully you can keep it professional today. Listen, so just before I go to the news I've got these guys are on fire on YouTube, right? So, they're giving us news on um Iran and Bloody Gome said that Iran's foreign minister said that the talks were a quote unquote good Start, saying that both sides almost agreed to continue the talks, but instead decided to discuss the next meeting later via Oman. Um he said the focus of the talks was to discuss a framework for continuing the talks. These guys are hilarious, aren't they? We

can't just have a talk. We need to talk about having the framework to have the talk. Do you know what I mean? Um this is just like a delaying tactics but anyway so and then um they said the Focus of the talks was to discuss the framework. Yeah that's what bloody go to to continue the talks lol and must say and I'm just reading what he said guys yesterday Netanyahu's piggy wife and gay son boarded a plane to Israel so I don't think the war is imminent. That's that. Um so thank you guys. Keep the

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read that after the talks today, America put um further sanctions on Iran. Um, and I read some other stuff As well. But anyways, Suliman can hopefully cover that when he does the news. Let me go to the bits of news that I had for you guys. Okay, I work backwards. Okay, so um that you know um Peter Mandlesson in the UK um the Metropolitan Police raided at the crack of Groom this morning his premises. Okay, his his uh he's got a couple of he's got a big ranch and something else here for something else. I

don't know what. But so they ra um raided those and they did um uh they executed search warrants. He's got a big ranch in Wiltshire which is in the country and he's got a home in London here in North London. Um and they said that um this was over allegations that he shared so Peter Mandolson shared confidential government information with Epstein in 2009 and 2010. Um so these files that have been released revealed emails where Mandolson Passed sensitive economic briefings whilst he was serving as business secretary. So he was giving this information to Epstein and

Epstein was obviously using it to tell him what to do with the UK um government and which way to take politics. So that's why they raided his home. They have not arrested him yet. He's still a free man and it was nothing to do with the pedophilia. So that's the first thing. Okay. Um Trump um is being um you know Trump he Knows who his masters and payers are. He uh the Trump administration cancelled 145 enforcement actions against 153 corporations that were facing accountability measures for lawbreaking. They just canceled the enforcement um when they broke

the law. That's fine. Um, and New York Times said, and this is a quote from the New York Times, the FBI is using the bureau's federal resources to find damaging information on Trump's Political enemies. Right. Um, so Trump's political enemies, that's what they're doing. Uh, this is what uh Trump's administration is doing. The Justice Department is under scrutiny for revealing victims info. So what they did was the uh the DOJ in these in this file drop apparently they revealed the names of some victims but they concealed the possible enablers in the Epstein files. So in

a lot of them you'll see people saying hang on this is a really Disgusting email and we can see that the person who sent it is blanked out who sent this email. Um so that's going on. Norway's police have opened an investigation into their ex-p prime minister Jagland over the Epstein files. So we've got Norway, we've got Slovakia, we've got Great Britain, I think we had France as well. Um we've had the United Nations. So we've got huge kind of corporations. We've got um a lot of the European countries. Um we just haven't Had any

action in America yet. Okay. Um let me just go to the rest of it. Prince Andrew's ex-girlfriend has insisted that Jeffrey Epstein is not dead. Um she doesn't believe it and she says he's alive and living in Israel. Her name is um Lady Victoria Harvey. She's of the uh the kind of ruling. Well, I will say uh let's just say um Landed Gentry in the UK. There's a term which is like the elite establishment. Okay. Um Lady Victoria Harvey and she was his Girlfriend. I don't know before he got married to to Sarah. >> You

said the land registry. >> Landed gentry. The landed gentry. It's like a Do you know what it is? It's like um >> it's like elite. >> So for example, had Trump not become a politician and stuff um you might have said maybe I don't know but she's a bit trashy but you might have said Ivanka's a landed gentry But she's not really she's a bit trashy but Lady Victoria Harvey she's got the lady title formally I think there's some links between her and Rothschild or something. Um she's landed gentry. Um and she said she's also

named in the Epstein files by the way, right? And she says that um she said this today on an interview um on a radio interview which you can find it online and I can play a clip later. She says not being named in the Epstein files is an insult and People who are not in the Epstein files are losers. um because she says it was like, you know, important people, wealthy people, people were going places, everybody wanted to be connected to that network and if you weren't in it, you're a loser. So that's that's interesting.

Um and I've got a clip here which I'll play further down the line. Um but it's basically Coma rejects the Clintons's demands for a public hearing on Epstein. He says it's really simple. This is the media strategy to control the narrative. Comr says that the open hearing will be broadcast uh sorry no let me let me rephrase that um what he says is let me just go up uh I missed it but basically he's rejected it and he said to the Clintons no you're going to have to do it in private um and they don't

want to do it in private and I've got something on that actually give me one second and I will come to it Um, Yeah. Okay. So, I've got some other news for you as well. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have made statements on this as well, by the way, guys. Um, and Coma has rejected this. I did have a statement from him somewhere. Um, I can't find it now. But anyway, what I do have as well is starting Monday, this Monday, members of Congress can review more than 3 million pages of unredacted Epstein documents at

the DOJ Headquarters at Washington. Okay. So members of Congress can and this is following the the push by from Roana and Massi but access is going to be restricted to judiciary committee leaders only. They must give 24 hours notice and they can't bring their staff or electronics. And to me this is crazy right? Um because you've got 3 million documents. They're unredacted. you're going to Allow people in or congress people in but only those who are on the judiciary committee but they can't bring staff or electronics. So literally you can have a Roana come out

of there and say I have seen that you know Trump or Bush or whoever he names has done XY Z and it's all over and they're going to say well that's just your word for it isn't it because we've got no evidence and no electronics can go in. So that's important. Now, Coma did reject Bill Clinton's um request to have it televised, his testimony, and Bill Clinton did a an attack on him on Twitter, tweeted it out. He said, "I have called for the full release of the Epstein files. I provided a sworn statement of

what I know, and just this week, I've agreed to appear in person before the committee, but it's still not enough for Republicans on the House Oversight Committee." Now, Chairman Comr says he wants cameras, but only behind Closed doors. Who benefits from this arrangement? It's not Epstein's victim victims who deserve the justice, not the public who deserve the truth. It serves only partisan interest. This is not factf finding. It's pure politics. I will not sit idly as they use me as a prop in a closed door kangaroo court by a Republican party running scared. If they

want answers, let's stop the games and do this the right way in a public hearing where the American people can See for themselves what this is about. that was on Twitter. Um, and what they're saying is that Hillary Clinton is mentioned zero times in the Epstein's files. Trump is mentioned 38,000 times in the Epstein files. This is what they're saying, right? And and this was on uh Fox News today. Somebody was saying it as well. Anyone with a pulse would ask, well, why aren't they going after Donald Trump to testify? Why isn't Melania testifying who's

also in the File? So, this is the setup. So then Hillary Clinton tweeted yesterday, I think it was earlier today. For 6 months, we engaged Republicans on the oversight committee in good faith. We told them what we know under oath. They ignored all of it. They move the goalpost and turn the accountability into an exercise in distraction. Let's stop the games. If you want this fire, James Coma, let's have it in public. You love to talk about transparency. There's Nothing more transparent than a public hearing. Cameras on. We will be there. Um, so there was

that. Um, let's have a look if there was anything else. Um, I told you about Lady Victoria Harvey. Uh, Coma rejected that. Um, there was a book that's come out actually, right? It's a poem that Jazelle Maxwell Justain Maxwell wrote. Um, and she wrote it a month after the 911 attacks. Okay. and uh quite a few people tweeted it out And it came across my timeline. I'm just going to read this to you. This is 15th of October 2001. So um just a month after um 9/11, just over a month. And this is what she

says in this poem. Oh well, this this little verse she's written. I don't know if it rhymes, but it is the year 2032 and a father and his son walk the streets of lower Manhattan. Approaching the site where the World Trade Center used to be in the end of The 20th century, the father size and comments, "To think that right here used to be the Twin Towers." The son, not understanding, asks his father, "What are the Twin Towers?" The father smiles and looks at the son and explains, "The Twin Towers were two huge buildings that

used to be here until 2001 when the Arabs destroyed them." The son looks up to his father and asks, "And what are the Arabs?" Basically, she's fantasizing about Arab Genocide a month after 9/11, worldwide eradication of Arabs. Um, so it shows her mindset a little bit. Um, right there. Um I think uh that's it really to be honest with you Simon from me for now. >> Awesome. Awesome. Great news. Great information guys. Do retweet. Re-share the space. We haven't got many retweets. We haven't got many re-shares. We haven't got any quote. I've quote Everyone who

has retweeted it. So do quot tweet it. We're live on YouTube as well. I think we've got about 100 people live on YouTube. So you can listen to on YouTube. People are having a good chat on the YouTube. I am reading the chat here and there as well whenever I can. So that tweets in the nest. Also another video is in the nest which is Epstein files on Jewish supremacy. So check that out. Uh it's important to highlight these things as well and look at where This guy is coming from. Now couple of things guys,

couple of pieces of news. Let's get through it. The first thing is as you guys know as was mentioned there were negotiations with Iran. Now those negotiations were meant to be happening um today and they did happen today. Initially there were reports that those negotiations had been cancelled and the reason was is because there were reports that um the United States sorry Iran wanted to move those ne wanted to make Sure those negotiations a in Iran Iran Oman sorry and the second thing is that those negotiations are specifically and only about nuclear uh proliferation. Now,

it sounded like those talks broke down, but afterwards they came back on and they essentially were revived. And so those talks happened, those conversations happened. Uh and uh Hussein says in the chat, whoever doesn't like the video is an Auto Zio. Agree. I agree. Anyone in the space, anyone in the video, he's a auto zio. Agree with you there. But anyway, coming back to it. So they had their negotiations. It looks like America seated because they end up having the negotiations in Oman and the negotiations were exactly about what the uh Iranians wanted. Now in

terms of the negotiations specifically um they were meant to be about the nuclear proliferation and whether Iran Would be nuclear capable. Now there were reports coming out from Al Jazzer that the nuclear talks were specified to a few key points. What were those points? Well, the first one was that Iran commits to having zero uranium enrichment for 3 years and after that only agrees to one and a half enrichment, one and a half% enrichment. So obviously then you may ask yourself, well Iran's uh enriched more higher than that. So what happens? Well, they've Said number

two, its stockpile of highlyenriched uranium would be transferred to a third country. Iran agrees to not transfer weapons and technologies to its regional non-state allies, meaning the resistance. Iran pledges not to issue initiate the use of ballistic missiles and Iran and US agree to a non-aggression uh agreement. Now, as I've always said that the problem you're going to have with negotiations Is with the nuclear capability or not having nuclear bombers, that's going to be easy to agree to. What's going to be harder to agree to is having nuclear enrichment. And uh I have got a

video coming out on that tomorrow. But there's a lot of domestic needs that are required based on certain percentage of nuclear enrichment. And to give that away kind of puts you really behind in society. So that's going to be a stumbling block. But the biggest stumbling Oh my god. American 198 with a level one membership on the YouTube. Appreciate your support. Appreciate your love. Thank you for that and welcome to the community. Now, as I was saying, they um the second thing that they want people to agree to is giving away their ballistic missile problem.

uh uh missile program. The hypersonic missiles are very advanced. You saw how badly they penetrated Tel Aviv. There was a lot of boom boom going On. Hifa Tel Aviv Elliot was up in flames. And so if Iran was to give it up, what would that mean? That would mean the um Israel would have car blanch to act in whichever manner they please. And what I mean by that is just like they bomb Gaza and there's no repercussions. Just like they go to Lebanon and they bomb that whenever they want. Look, just like they go to

Syria and bomb that whenever they Want. And just like when they go to Iraq and bomb that whenever they want, Iran will end up putting themselves in the exact same situation without any ballistic missiles, without any offensive weapons, you're leaving or removing an important important deterrent. So Iran can't give that away. Israel and US wanted them to give it away because they can easily destroy Israel with it. And so you're left in a quagmire, a problem where they won't be Able to agree to a solution. And so that's why I always thought there won't be

some kind of agreement. So it looks like Iran is um as Khesi said, saying that look, this is the first part of negotiations. as we will. There were reports earlier on today saying that the negotiations broke down and that the subsequently immediately after the negotiations the US placed 25% tariffs >> on Iran. That means anybody who Basically trades with Iran will have a 25% tariff making it very very difficult for Iran to trade and continuing on with the blockade that is happening in real time. So obviously we'll continue We'll continue to uh provide you with

the news and the information uh about that. Uh Conservative America says, "I love Sulan. I am American 19B on YouTube. Sorry I'm late on the subscription. Appreciate you, Conservative Muslim." Tammy's been the OG from day zero. Appreciate her as always. What does 19b mean though? Are you saying the 19 amendment should be modified and changed so that no chicks are allowed to vote and maybe also no dogs are allowed to vote as well? Yeah, she said 100. See that she knows it. She knows the score. So anyway, coming back to it or coming back to

the news. Um, let me quickly get back to it. Okay, here we go. Um, Apparently Jody Vance was booed in the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics. Uh, we had an email from uh, sorry within the Jeffrey Epstein tranch of email release. We had an email saying that um, in a newly released email from Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein recalled sitting with Chinese diplomats diplomats who warned each other about him stating be careful of this J word dog. I don't want to be anti I'm not going to say the J word. I'm just not going to

say it. Going to leave it to the China man to say it. So um what else we got? The odds of war with Iran has increased significantly. What else have we got? Uh, Kesi mentioned it already. >> You guys say China, too. >> I reject your racism. Public disavow. Um, what else? >> I didn't even understand what that was about. China, man. What was he saying? >> It's all right. Sorry, Matrix. We know you're not culturally aware. Just uh read some politics. Tell us about Tell us about Boris Johnson. Um, we know we had some

reports today that Isaac Herszog is in the Epste. Actually, guys, I got two good videos coming out now. I think about that in the next two days. So, check my YouTube out. I've got a video tomorrow on like a very good video on an explainer about Iran. So, check that out. I think it's really Good. Like, it's I kept it like really good. The guy's editing it now, but that's coming out. That's really good. And the day after, I've got a really good one about uh in detail about the Israeli Mossad connection. I'm going to

go into detail because I feel like a lot of people when they ask the question, they're not able to explain it well enough and it's very vague. So, I want to give you the tools to destroy these fools. So, we're going to do that video As well. Check both of them out. Show your boy some love, guys, on YouTube. Show me some love. Show me some affection. Oh, let's get Grant up. Grant's been Grant. Grant, come up, Grant. I've seen you in listeners. Don't run away. Come on, Grant. We got some questions for you with

a lot of love. We'll be nice to you as I always am. Anyway, um Oh, Simsy as well. Quickly, let's get Simon up as well. Okay. >> Oh, Jonah came out of the tunnels Earlier today, didn't he? >> Well, I don't know who that is. I know who Joe is. Uh >> he came up and derailed us completely and now he's up out of the tunnels today. >> Was Was that an act of God that she just cut out? Yeah, I think it was I think it was Joah. >> The almighty just God. Um >>

Joah got a new Davos device. >> I just want to welcome Grant and Simon onto the stage. But Grant, how are you doing? >> I I try to do great all the time, my friend. >> That's what you've got to do. I'm not too far away from you, Grant. Guess what? I'm not too far away. I'm going to come and see your brother. I don't know how far you live from there, actually, but we're going to arrange some. How you doing anyway? >> Good. Great. What's up? Yeah. Um, you've been hitting the airwaves a lot.

You've been going viral. People are not happy with you. >> Oh, really? Who's not happy with me, man? Everybody Everybody's happy with me. What are you talking about? >> Oh, no. No. Grant, you not been keeping up to date. No. >> Everybody loves Grant Cardone, bro. What are you crazy? >> Everyone loves Grant Cardone cuz you you >> Everybody wants to be me, bro. What are you talking about? >> Yeah. I mean, >> people don't just love me. They want to be me. Maybe Joe. Yeah, but like with the the problem is this one time

people are not happy with >> Have you seen Simon? Have you seen his G650? Like come on. >> I I don't I don't have a I don't have a 650. >> I thought you had a 650. Is it 600? >> I I have a I had a 650. I have a 7500. >> Oh >> yeah. Stop attacking him. All right. He's got the upgrades. >> That's not an attack. >> This is what these Davos guys do. Grant, don't worry about it. Although you might be a Davos guy as well, so I don't know. Were you

a Davos? >> I've never been to Davos. >> No, you're not. Only Jo then. Um, so >> don't bother going. It's horrible. >> Yeah, Joah, don't pretend on here. So >> I I wouldn't fit in there, dude. Those guys wouldn't like me. >> Yeah, >> I I didn't fit in. >> Joe is hard to like. Uh, but I still love him. Um, so listen, Grant, I want to read this tweet out that you posted and it has caused >> Twitter to go wild and crazy and a lot. >> Oh, good. Tell me about it cuz

I didn't know I didn't know I had something that Went wild and crazy. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I'll do it again. Tell me. Tell me what it is. >> No, don't do it. Don't do it. Cuz they they're going to think you're a bad guy. Don't do it. >> Well, people can think whatever they want to think. >> True. True. >> If I spend my time worried about what people think about me that I don't even Know, I'm in [ __ ] deep [ __ ] >> That's true. That's true. I give you that one.

You should never care what people think. They can don't let them control your mind. But let me read the tweet out to you. So it says, quote, "Some of you guys are spending too much time on the Epstein files, starting to get concerned about your fascination with this topic. >> People felt like you were minimizing the Epstein topic." And basically, if you Look on your comments, >> you've people are lost it. People, you know, there's a there's a lot of ratios on that. People are happy with you. I'm not going to read them because there's

a lot of mean things being said in your comments. But what's your thoughts on that? People feel like you're read more of the comments than I did. That's my job, Grant. I'm a social media influencer/journalist. So, a question to you. >> You're you're a social media influencer slashjournalist. Yeah, of course. Like, do you know have you not heard of me, Grant? I'm like the biggest guy on X. >> Okay. >> Okay. Anyway, so Grant question. >> Yeah, dude. Dude, the fascination the fascination with one topic uh on a day after day after day like people

can do whatever they want to do. I just get start getting a little worried about like where where's the Interest in other things. >> But but the thing is I think what people would argue or their point is this that Grant um this is big major news. They feel like the deep state intelligence are covering it up. The people have fall back. They've got the information released and now you're saying finding out about people who they believe are people who've taken part in human trafficking probably possibly child pedophilia or whatever it is that you're Basically

saying you don't care about it. What's your thoughts? >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I I didn't say I don't care about it. >> Like you're telling people not to speak about it. This is what they This is why they're angry with you. By the way, I'm not saying this is not my opinion. I'm just telling you what the people >> Yeah. No. No. I'm with you, dude. I'm with you and I'm just I'm telling you what my opinion is. >> Yeah. Yeah. So tell us like what's your thoughts? They're saying look we should talk about this.

>> It's like human trafficking, child abuse. We need to talk about this. We need to highlight this. If we don't stop talking about this, those in power, these satanic and evil devil worshippers will hide this away. We're not going to let them do it. That's why we're talking about it. What's your response? >> Yeah. I I I just don't think talking About talking about anything changes much. >> You got to do more than talk about it, dude. >> Their response to that. Whatever whatever period of time you're spending talking, I'd like to see people take

10 times more action actually going after it >> than talking. Talk talking doesn't bully anybody or bother anybody into anything or out of anything. So their response to you grant would be that actually um the fact that everyone has been talking about it for the last three four months forced pressured encouraged Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Green and Ro Conor to put the bill in. Trump tried to stop it from going happening but there was so much support because people were talking about it. This is the reason we've got the release of the three million

documents. Now we know so much about These evil satanic cabal is what their argument would be. What's your thoughts on that? >> Look, good news is I get to be wrong. I can be wrong, you know. >> I I just had an opinion. >> Yeah. Yeah. I just So, yeah, that's fine. I mean, if you if you feel like you were wrong, that's that's >> No, I didn't I I didn't I didn't say I was wrong. I said I can be wrong. >> True. True. In the grand scheme of things. In the >> in the

grand in the grand scheme. In the grand scheme. >> Yeah. In the grand scheme of things. Of course. Well, other than me, everyone else, of course, can be wrong or right. All of these things are possible. But just on that, are you are you trying to say that people's fixation on it is that they're mentally unwell or what's what's your point? >> Could be. Could be. I wasn't saying that, but I guess that could be. >> There's an alarm going on there, Grant. I don't know if the feds are after you can't cook. He burning

down his house. >> That might be Cash Patel for Grant. Um, so guys, you made this is your guy's fault. Not only are you guys obsessed with Epstein that you bloody made Grant burn his food. Well, first of all, Grant, why are you even making your own food? I Thought you were rich and you're a guy as well. Come on, Grant. What is going on here? Why is it all these rich guys like Simon and Grant are there working away? Like, >> sorry about that, guys. Sorry. Yeah, >> you making your own food, bro. I'm

cooking my own food, dude. I'm cooking my own food. >> Why, bro? You're rich and you're a guy. >> Yeah. So, >> get the do it wrong. >> See? See that, dude? That's so racist and sexist. It's terrible. >> Yeah. Uh, >> like I can cook. I can cook my own food and I can be a man and cook and I and I and I can >> I can burn my food. And I can burn my food, by the way, which is what I did. >> Well, first of all, you're praising me by calling me

sexist. So, I appreciate your um words of encouragement. >> Okay. Well, take take the compliment. Take take them when you where you get them from whoever you can get them from. >> Of course, I'm taking it and I'm g gripping it with the entirety of my hands. >> Don't Don't grip too tight. Don't grip too tight. Could hurt. >> I mean, look, everyone knows every everyone knows that my weak spot is when people praise me. So, I will always hold that tight. But the Grant coming back to it in like jokes aside, what is your

Actual view on the Epstein files? Like what's your thoughts on it? Do you think it's not a big deal? Do you think it's a big deal? What's your thoughts? Uh, what do I think about it, dude? I think the guy's a piece of [ __ ] Okay. And and and look, I've been invited to to to different things in my life and I said, "Nah, I don't want to do that." I was invited to a diddy party. I'm like, "Nah, I don't want to go to a diddy party." Okay. I was invited to another Guy's

birthday party and I'm like, "What time's the party at?" 2:30 in the morning. Nah, I don't need to be I don't need to be in Las Vegas at 2:30 in the morning, bro. I'm a I'm a [ __ ] grown man w with a wife and kids. Where what what business do I have going someplace at 2:30 in the morning or so? Anyway, look, I I I have enough of a moral compass to say no to [ __ ] that looks looks skeptical to me. I have uh and I asked Simon this Question a number

of times like I have fortunately been very lucky to have enough discipline and work ethic in my life to create the thing I wanted to create for me the way I wanted to do it. I have no sponsors. I take I don't take a knee to anybody. I have never, you know, um, while while I've done business with banks, I have never ever pledged myself to a bank. And when I take money from them, uh, you know, I do it on my terms or I Just don't do it. So, like I don't belong to a

bunch of clubs. I'm not I'm not one of those guys. So, uh, the only time I've been political is for Donald Trump. because he kind of accepts me being the loudmouth that I am. And uh anybody that got involved with Epstein's got a [ __ ] terrible broken moral compass, whoever that is. I don't care who it is. And that would include Donald Trump letting him into his country club when he did, you know? He he he he he was guy's a piece of garbage. But if you have a club, I guess you got to

let people in and then otherwise you don't have a club, right? But but he also got him out when it was time. So I I don't look I don't have all the data. I haven't studied it the way Simon has. I think I was leaving a room the day Simon I think it was a Bitcoin room and it turned into an Epstein room. Simon, you Remember that room? >> Yeah. Do you? >> Yeah. I was like, "God damn, guys. When did we get back to Bitcoin?" And it might have been because I guess I guess

>> Bitcoin's dead. That's why we're talking about Epstein. >> Bitcoin's done. >> Bitcoin's dead. It's crashed. There's a >> What are you talking about? I gave you the entry of the century yesterday. >> I bought I bought Bitcoin every day this Week. So, if it's dead, then then you're not just a social media influencer and a journalist. >> We're waiting for it to hit 30K. Then we're going to buy a lot of it. >> You didn't You didn't take the trades. Joe has set you up. >> If you're waiting for it to hit 30K, you

think it's going to go where? After it hits 30K, >> Joe set everyone up yesterday. No, the guy The guy the guy that said it's going to hit 30k and then he's gonna buy it >> public then when it when it goes to 30k and you buy it your your target is to buy it to go where >> probably what 100 rich as you >> at 30k it's dead you don't at 30k Bitcoin is dead >> it's not going to 30k >> what about 50k Joa >> that's why it could go to 50k if there's

like if if like Binance has a problem. If we attack Iran, maybe I don't think >> Binance bought bought today. What are you guys talking about? It's fixing this. >> I don't I'm not saying it is in trouble. I'm saying I'm saying if something major happens, it could go down further, but not much. I told I told everyone here, Grant, yesterday that I took everything out of my bank, took everything out of My portfolio, and put everything at 63,000, put everything I had into Bitcoin. >> And I announced it on this on the stage yesterday.

>> Yeah. Now, now back to back to the back to back to the Epstein thing. If Epstein had anything to do with any of the code, okay, the [ __ ] guy's dead now. I mean, like if you guys like maybe he did. I don't know. I don't know. >> But Grant, it's not just about Epstein. It's about Jane Maxwell. It's about uh what's his name again? Bill Gates. It's about the Clintons. It's about Trump. It's about whether Israeli intelligence was using him to control the United States of America. There's so many questions we've got,

Grant. We got to find out. We got to get down to the bottom of it. We need to free United States of America. We need the freedom of the people. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. What we need to do is we need to take more responsibility our own home fronts, do a better job with our our kids. At least I do. I I I need to spend time taking care of my own personal life and my my home, my family, the the neighborhood around me, and then expand out to the school system. Like like all I'm

suggesting to you guys, I know these topics are great for rooms, But people need to act like like we need we need to do more and maybe maybe talk about [ __ ] less. I appreciate you, Grant. Anyway, thank you. And anybody got any questions for Grant? Obviously, do jump in, but uh obviously be respectful as as you can because >> you you don't need to be Nobody needs Nobody owes me any respect. >> Bro, we're Grant, we're on a Twitter space. People are crazy. You don't if You say that screaming at you. >> Yeah,

I've been I've been handling people my whole life, bro. If I can't handle >> No, you don't understand. People start screaming on Twitter spaces. >> Yeah. How How old are you? How old are you? >> I'm bad old grand. I look young, but I'm in my How old are you? >> I'm 41 years old. >> Yeah. >> I've got three children. I'm bare older. Grant. >> Well, your wife has three children. You don't know how many you have. >> True. True. >> You don't know. >> True. You just don't know. It could be many. It's

true. It's true. >> Could be many. Could it could be one and she might have had two with somebody else. >> That's possible with these chicks. It's True. It's true. When you look at the data with 40% of them basic or 40% of men raising children which aren't as it's high like listen it's possible the data shows all these things are possible. Uh no one could be anyone's kid. This is true. Okay. Um >> Simon Simon could be my son and and we wouldn't even he might >> I doubt that. I mean Simon's pretty old.

You know what I mean? Unless you were pulling out kids when you were like nine Or something, Grant. But obviously these things are possible as well cuz we know in western societ Yeah, we know these things happen as well. Um, Simon, is it possible? >> How old are you, Simon? How old are you, Simon? >> I'm 45. >> You could easily be my kid. Betrix might be your mother. >> Whoa, you're you're bare old Grant. I thought you were like really young. >> I'm 67. >> Oh my god. You're like a granddad. Grant. Okay, guys.

You all better be nice to Grant because he's basically a granddad. like 67. I always say to Brix, "Be nice to Doc cuz he's like a grandpa and she doesn't listen." But anyway, let's >> I just hope I hope you can run as hard as I do when you're my age. >> True, bro. I'm already feeling tired, Grand. I'm 41 and I >> Okay, let me let me let me ask this question. What What What keeps you still in the hustle >> at 67 even though you probably got everything you want? >> Yeah. Yeah. The

game. the game, you know, getting up trying to figure out something that keeps me interested in the game, you know, the barriers, making a difference. >> Every billionaire real estate guy I know Always says the same thing. >> It's like making a deal. Making a deal is what they live for. >> I didn't say that. >> No. Okay. That's what I felt like you were saying. Sorry. >> No, no. Look, we have a foundation where we try we reach out to help kids and we don't do it like a lot of people say they do

it. like we're we're trying to reach kids that don't look like me, don't sound like me, they'll never have Access to a guy like me or you know, so so it whatever it is, guys, like it could be as simple as our [ __ ] website looks like [ __ ] you know, I found out today and and and and that's, you know, that that that that kind of stuff gets me excited. I'm like, I I don't want it to look like that. I want it to look like and and then I get involved in

that project. There's no deal. It's just, you know, trying to make a difference every day While I'm around. And look, you guys, I'm certain that most of the people that are talking about Epstein are motivated by some of the same things like to make sure it never happens again and to reveal the truth. And I believe that I believe we should have all the data completely unredacted. Everybody should know what what what what happened there. And everybody should be punished by the way. But Simon knows why that's not going to happen Better than I do.

>> What? What? Simon know. >> No, nobody's going to be punished. Yeah. This is just the purging of a few assets. Um, but those controlling this list are not on this list and they still control the other list. And there's still Jeffrey Epstein's all over the shop. This is systemic. Jeffrey Epstein's not unique. Jeffrey Epstein is, you know, what what power what power does. Um and uh definitely this is not a Unique case. >> True. True. I agree with that. Uh Dr. Michael, did you have a question for um Simon? Check your message as well.

Uh Dr. Michael, you got any question? Uh did you have a question for I just I had a comment for Grant. I I just want to say uh I agree with you. I mean, you've said some really, I think, important things. For example, action, you know, doing something, uh, taking action. This is really where it's at. And, uh, also, As a fellow 67y old, I salute you. I play tennis three sets three times a week against a 30-year-old. So, I don't give a [ __ ] about age. I think it's nonsense. Uh, you can go

as far as you want if you keep if you keep going. But as for action, and I'm not just trying to uh kiss Grant's butt here. Uh you know, I'm taking action in fighting the Zionists in this country, which I think have taken it over with the Anti-Zionist America Pact, the first of its kind in History. And we are leading the charge. Uh we are going to be pushing and supporting candidates who will not take money from the Israeli lobbies who will not take money from uh the the you know what Norman Finkelstein calls the

Jewish supremacist billionaire class. the Adles, the Singers, the Pollsons, the Ellisons, the uh the whole slew of them because they have an inordinate control and power over our government leading us to com you know to be complicit in Atrocities uh all you know over in Gaza and uh elsewhere. So you know action is the key. I agree with you 100%. and uh keep moving. Um and uh you know since you are rich, you know, maybe you could pitch in. Thanks. >> Yeah, I mean the way to pitch in is for me to like and I

and I I'll be honest with you, I don't have the courage to do this, but to to to cancel using any of these people's products. Uh Reed Hoffman's probably a bad guy. I mean, on the surface, he looks like a bad guy to me, but I don't know him. I've never met him, but I and and I'm going to tell you right now, I'm not canceling my Netflix because I'm right in the middle of the [ __ ] Diplomat and I need to know how it ends in season three. >> It doesn't end, Grant. >>

Well, season four. I can't wait for it to come out, dude. Like, let's go. >> Yeah, but you know, it's illegal in, you know, in 37 states, you cannot boycott Israel and have any contracts with the states. So they'll they you have to pledge that you won't boycott Israel or else you get no contracts. And we're trying to get standing in uh one on a case so that we could sue some states over this because it's unconstitutional because if as uh as Citizens United uh demonstrated if in fact spending money is speech then withholding money

should Be speech as well. Likewise, these are unconstitutional uh measures that these states have enacted in 37 states in the United States to control uh money flows to Israel to make sure that money keeps flowing there from these states. And many states, I think it's at least 18, hold Israeli bonds and uh they're trying we're trying to break that spell. in Florida. Uh Fishbach is going, you know, running for governor and he will get rid Of that uh because it's, you know, feeding the war machine over there and uh making all Flidians complicit in genocide.

>> Appreciate that, Dr. Michael. Let's go to uh Mango. Mango. Oh, no. Sorry. Yeah, let's let's Simon, let's go to you actually fast. S I hope you're doing well, Simon. How's things? Give us give us your thoughts. How's it going? >> Yeah, all good. Look, I I I'll show you. Um, look, as as somebody that ran like a Financial services company for 15 years, um, I I I know where this goes and I know why I had to sell my business. Um, it's because at some stage you're either going to end up and particularly in

our sector. So, look, we, you know, I'm I'm on and my my my funds are on the the cap table of many of these companies um in the crypto space uh in the Bitcoin space and then suddenly later you find a bunch of Peter Teal money coming in and then You find a bunch of and I know I know where this this goes next that suddenly you're going to if you if you want to get to the stage that CC and Binance At some stage, Israeli intelligence are going to funnel a bunch of money through

your financial services company and then say, "Oh yeah, you funded this terrorist group." And then you're going to be facing a prison sentence and then when you're in the prison, they're going to turn you over and once They turn you over, you're going to be working for the mafia. And and I know that's how it work because I can I can see that's what it takes to succeed in in this industry. And they don't let you can't go to the next level unless they got you. Um and I'm just sharing my experience and through miracle

through miracle you know um I managed to avoid that um managed to avoid that [ __ ] But you can't you can't you can't get like Further up. And this is how power works. Um and and it was just a miracle that that Bitcoin kind of gave us that bit where I didn't need the VC funding, but I know where this [ __ ] goes. And that's all from direct experience. Like they're going to get you. They they try and get you at every at every level, particularly in, you know, the finance game. Um, and

you're just trying to hustle, put some, you know, raise some finance, Do the thing, get your project, and the next thing you know, you you know, you you accidentally end up having a covert operation with Jeffrey Epstein on your cap table, and then you're screwed. And then the next thing you know, you know, I mean, this is how it works. This this is this is exactly how it works. Yeah, unfortunately. Uh, Mango, jump in. What's your thoughts? >> I just got here a few minutes ago. So, what are we talking about? >> Uh, we're talking

about Epstein files and uh the negotiations in Iran in terms of Trump's put tariffs on Iran. Uh, so that's possibly could be some form of escalation. Hold on. Tar tariffs on Iran. What? >> What does that mean? >> Is America buying Is America buying from Iran? >> No. >> Well, just a little bit more country. >> Any country that trades with Iran? >> Oh, so that's China. And then China will say, "Okay, well, I'll hold out my rare earth minerals and then we'll start again." So that doesn't do nothing, >> right? And then they and

they can also be like, "Okay, we'll sell our bonds and now your real estate's going to get screwed." So, you know, I don't know what the hell he's doing at this moment. >> Well, I mean, you know, it's just optics, isn't it? It's like the European Union. They're importing more gas from Russia. America's, you know, working with Russia on highlyenriched uranium. Like, everything they tells you is just a pile of [ __ ] Like, China and America are negotiating all these deals together. Um, putting tariffs on Iran. Okay, so you're going to put a tariff

on China because China's the one that's propping up the economy. Um, and then we're going to go through that that circle again. Uh, when America Literally if China stops exporting to America, the entire economy crashes. It's just pretty stupid. >> Wait, who gets who gets hurt more, the seller or the buyer? >> For what? >> For every which part of the transaction? It's like if if I don't come and patronize your store anymore and you don't have any sales, you go out of business, your factories close. That's what happens. China's not going to As long

as we're dumb enough to give them our money. >> Yeah. If you have a full dependency, but China's been hedging against America for decades now. It's um >> Well, we've been hedging against China, too. The supply chains have been moving for years, >> but it's not. But at the moment >> it has a problem >> because of the bonds. Like if if China unloads more paper, America is not going To be able to sell the like they're not going to be able to raise money. Do you understand? >> Not even a significant uh like treasury

holder anymore. They've been reducing their treasuries for like >> 800 billion. 800 billion. Um so here's here's the here's the three things. So, uh, China could could cut its exports to America, which is the 8% of its exports right now. I think it went from 15%, I think it's come down a bit, maybe. Um, I'll just check that figure, but some, let's say 15% max. Um, yeah, of course, that will take a hit to the economy, but China carries on. Um, uh, then there's the bond thing. I think China could slowly sell 800 billion of

bonds, but it doesn't want to crash the dollar unless it's in a confrontational thing. Um, it wants to manage that transition to maintain some of its value. But, um, what China exports to America, America can't do without. And that's the choke point. Um, and yeah, America is going to spend the next 10, 15 years to try and remove that dependency, but today that dependency is there. That's that's a checkmate. And remember, um, America needs to roll over its debt. Uh, and it has to roll over its debt. It needs people to purchase those treasuries. Um,

and so America is a structural trade and fiscal deficit, and China is a Structural uh trade and fiscal surplus. >> Yeah. And if you take away their surplus because of not only them selling directly to America, but them selling to other countries who then sell to America, >> it completely implodes and collapses their economy. And to put the whole thing, hold on one thing. The to put the debt thing to rest, China only holds 2 to 2.5% Of the US debt. >> Yeah. It's only 800 billion. They've sold down. It's not >> Yeah, but Europe

is Europe is bigger than 2 to 2.5% of the US federal debt. That's it. They're small player now. >> That That's true. Europe is the biggest player um in terms of >> Japan Japan as an individual. Europe collection. >> Can I can I just teach something here? How much debt does the does America raise in a year? It's you mean if you mean federally it's whatever the deficit is for that year, >> right? Correct. But it's not it's not normally in normal years. It doesn't reach a trillion dollars, right? >> No, the deficits have been

over a trillion since uh I don't know go at least co. >> Yeah, but I'm saying normal years. But Okay, a trillion. So if they unload if they unload 800 billion, do you think that affects the market when all that's being sold is a trillion or a trillion and a half, do you understand? It doesn't matter that they don't hold that much. It matters the fact that they hold enough that it would stop people from buying paper. Do you understand that's >> okay? Hold on. Hold on. When you look into how like all security trading

work, trading works, this is what happens. Okay, this is why you can't like quote dump a stock and think that you're going to be like really hurting the company. So, here's what happens. Let's say China wants to dump its 800 billion in American like treasuries and stuff like that. So, they do this. What happens is as soon as they start the sell off, the price plummets. So, they have to take a big loss as they continue to sell. And for that time period, that short time period where they're dumping it, yes, Nobody else is going

to buy. Everyone's going to start selling. It's going to it's going to not be a a buyer market at that point. And the United States isn't going to be able to raise any money at that time. But it's only going to last days. And then they're going to unload it all at a major loss. And then the market's going to bounce right back to its equilibrium state as other buyers come in and buy the dip. That's what happens every time this happens with a Stock or any other security. >> That's if they dump it all

at once. Why would a country do that? They wouldn't do that, right? They would control dump it out in a small amount. If they're like like leaking it out over time, then it's not going to have the negative effect on the price. >> Yeah, man. I I don't I don't I I agree with you. They don't want to they don't want to do that. like they they have money, they want to maintain that. But If they want to do damage, um then they can they can sell the bonds that as you said will crash the

price of the bond which will increase the yield which will make the debt more expensive as it's going through all of the auctions and then you could end up with a Silicon Valley bank situation. If it leads to any kind of stress in maturity, then you could break the banking system. I'm not saying China wants to do that, but that is a very easy um trade to Coordinate and that would lead to massive Federal Reserve um you know program um and uh you know it would um lead to runaway on the auctions of the long-term

interest rates which would increase the cost of um it could send America into a death spiral if it wanted to force more people to not use the dollar too other countries to not use the US dollar issue more debt at that in that moment. Okay, we have very smart people who are Working in the United States government like Scott Bessant who aren't going to get outmaneuvered by China. They would just stop issuing debt, stop trying to raise bonds at that time. >> You can't stop. It would crash the economy and the and the stock market.

You you have to issue debt. The United States federal government does not need to issue debt every day or every week. It does it period. >> Not every day. Yeah. I mean, it does it Every auction and and it's got to do it at an increasing rate because it's trying to run the economy hot right now. It's not allowing a recession to occur. It's not allowing a stock market correction to occur. If if Trump wants to take the economy into a recession, then yeah, he can start um you know, not auctioning off at the rate

that they're currently auctioning off at the moment. But um >> okay, wait, Simon, as an example, let's Say no. So the normal way of doing things is to raise money by issuing new debt and to do that periodically or whatever. But let's say they knew for one month they weren't going to be able to do that except it would have to be under extraordinarily disadvantageous circumstances, but they needed to cover their expenses for that month so that they could weather it and get to the other side. Wouldn't Scott Bessant just call up the Fed and

say, "Looks like you got to turn the money printer on for this month." And they would just cover it that way. Yeah, but you still have to answer to bond holders because bond holders are more influential on the long-term interest rates. The Fed can only control the short-term rates and the short-term rates if if if there is any distress that's caused by that situation, the long-term rates will go up and the Fed becomes um you know, it becomes you're In a distress debt situation. Of course, they will find a tool. Um but I anyway it's

it's it's a theoretical conversation cuz China's not going to do it. Um China doesn't want to do that. Um it's it's just a theoretical conversation. What they will do is they will restrict supply chains if there is any type of situation like that because that they they can checkmate it. It's 100% and of course Trump knows that. Of Course, Scott Percent know that just because they put some theatrical show like they're engaging in some kind of trade war. They they know the situation and China doesn't want to do that. >> But if it was if

it was real, they would do it. >> I just want to make it clear they can checkmate if they want to, but man saying they can't because you have Scott B. >> Yeah, 100%. >> If China could checkmate the United States, they would do it tomorrow. >> They wouldn't do it. They wouldn't do it. the enemy China is not China is not project the entire point of Chinese foreign policy and economic policy is to overthrow the hegemony of the United States it's not you're analyzing China from the perspective of an American >> they would >>

you're analyzing China from the Perspective of an American dominate destroy conquer exceptionalism like people don't have that people around the world don't have the same psyche as the west like Mo have you ever have you ever traveled outside >> mano have you ever traveled outside itself it says stuff like the culmination of the great project of the people's you know whatever of China in their like foreign policy readouts and Stuff that they issue their number one thing of everything and they use the strongest possible language is the reconquest of Taiwan to reunite Taiwan one with

the >> main they already >> they already they don't need that they already have the strategic ambiguity that they want. They already know exactly what their Taiwan policy is. You You think that they're sat there waiting To invade Taiwan, but they're scared that the Americans are going to come and start World War II with them. It's an absolute It's an absolute cartoon. to take Taiwan. They don't believe they can do it. No, they and that's the only >> because they're not stupid. They're not going to do economic destruction, mutually guaranteed destruction. It's just stupid. >>

For the first time, Simon, I will Disagree with you. Yes, the Chinese do believe the Americans are crazy. You know, look at what they're doing in the world stage to do a stupid mistake. Yes. So, they're trying to contain the stupidity of the Look at the American leadership. One day Greenland, not the way it's going to be, Taiwan. They're going bonkers. So, that side. Yes. The Chinese are trying to be the adult in the room if you want. Back to you. >> Yeah. No, but honestly, man, you you Have been indoctrinated into an ideology that's

based upon, you know, being the absolute dominant global hedgeimon that destroys all competition and doesn't allow anyone to rise. That's not how the rest of the world thinks. People want to look, people want to grow. People want to and in in any business, you want your partners to be strong so that you can do better business together. That's how like most of the world thinks outside of this Psychopathic global hedge. >> Simon, we didn't stop. Who did we stop from rising? >> Oh my god. Is that a serious question? Have you Have you watched >>

every country that had the economics? >> Should we start with the Middle East? did like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Asian Tigers. >> Should we start with the Middle East? >> I mean I mean come on. Like hey should we start with the Middle East? Do Do you Think like you would find a act together enough to ride with >> Teach and what America did? >> Forget the pound. Forget the pound. Like Mango, do you do you really think that the Middle East has like not got their act together and they just found themselves in

war after war after war and there was no deliberate operations? There was no um covert funding of militias. There was no Israel. There was No ISIS al-Qaeda. There was no infiltrate Iran, infiltrate Syria, infiltrate every part of the Middle East. Like that was a classic British Empire size pico, divide and conquer, colonial, we must control the resources and nobody is allowed to compete. And if you try to compete, we're going to kill you. We're going to massacre you. We're going to put our leaders in. And we're going to make sure that you never have the

opportunity Um to rise. That is literally the entire >> history doesn't comport with what you just said though. >> Well, your your the American history hold the American version of history. The fantasy, >> it's not the American there's only one version. >> There was no there was no there was no gen there was no genocide, right? >> There was the native the native Indians. You were just kind of liberating the land and you were civilizing society and you were exporting your technology globally and and democracy. Simon, we >> we got to do one topic at

a time. The British absolutely did what you said. They were very strongly imperialist in the Middle East. And that was the case all the way up through World War II. After World War II, the United States was very strongly anti-imperialist. And when the Suez crisis happened where the United States had to pick a side of being on the side of the UK and France and Israel or being on the side of Egypt, the United States stabbed its allies, the UK, in the back and was on the side of the anti-imperialism and sided with Egypt. And

that was a huge huge watershed moment in the uh UK being absolutely crushed as far as an actor on the world stage. So I don't think America was acting the way that you Said. And for example, when Iraq attacked Iran in the 1980s, >> the United States didn't make them do that. That was because Saddam Hussein was an ambitious dictator and thought he could win. >> Wow. I I can't I can't wait, Mango. It's going to be a real like trauma for you to when you when they when you actually read the real history book

from the people that were on the wrong side of Your bomb and the wrong side of your covert operations like to believe that you think that the AngloAmerican and it was like we went from this evil British Empire which was damn evil but I can admit it because I've actually read the real history not the history that my government wanted me to learn. And to think that the Americans were like completely different and it wasn't a function of the exact same system but doing it via covert mechanisms. I know You were fed to fantasy but

god wait till the rest of the world actually tell their stories and they can actually write the books and tell you what it was like to be on the wrong side of American imperialism just like it was for the British imperialism. >> Yeah. I mean I don't think communists are credible. So to the extent that those >> a communist the middle is the middle east full of communists. >> Yeah. Well the the people that the United States was fighting throughout the cold war period were generally communists and >> yeah funding were communists. >> Have you

studied the history of banking and who funded the communism and who funded the fascism and who created the Federal Reserve? >> I mean that that's like totally different topic. I don't think >> totally different. That's that's how divide and conquer every side of a war and that's what propped up the US military-industrial complex. It was a continual need to grow the debt, roll over the debt, pump it into the stock market. And the best way to pump the stock market was to build a military-industrial complex that required and fed on continual war, forever war, to

prop up the dollar in order to roll over the debt until you End up exactly where the British Empire ended up in World War I, which is exactly where America is today. trying to roll over the debt, pumping up its GDP, creating wealth inequality and extracting wealth from the many and handing it over to the hands of a few in the US stock market. All right, I got the thing I mentioned earlier. So, this was this came and this is regarding China. So, this came from Wang Yi, who is the foreign minister of The People's

Republic of China, and it was in June of 2023 when they had one of their meetings with uh who's this guy who met with Anthony Blinken. So they had their discussions over Taiwan and the readout states and this is from the Chinese source. Wang Yei asked the US side to stop hyping up the China threat theory, lift illegal unilateral sanctions against China, stop suppressing China's technological development, and refrain from wantingly Interfering in China's internal affairs. Internal affairs is a reference to Taiwan, by the way. Wangi focused on analyzing the essence of the Taiwan issue, emphasizing

that safeguarding national unity will always be the core of China's core interests. It is the fate of all Chinese people and it is the unswerving historical mission of the Communist Party of China on this issue. China has no room for compromise. So >> that's the one that's the one China. Now hold on. Let's just talk about this. That's the one China policy of what China wants to do in its own background in its own place and that's completely what's that got to do with coming in and surrounding America and trying to create war in America

or anything like that. That's completely reasonable policy. That's the one >> how many how many countries recognize Taiwan? >> Do you know Manos? It's not many because China goes and pays them off to not recognize Taiwan anymore. >> So they pay out they pay off 170ome countries >> to not recognize Taiwan. >> But maybe they do. But anyway, but maybe they do. This is just their this is their part of the world and you're saying basically you're reading out like it's disgusting that somebody would have A problem with American foreign policy in their back garden.

>> Like this is this is this is the problem. You have to come to a communist country wants to invade a free country and crush it just over some butt hurt from 1949. >> Speaking of 1949, I mean that's where your rhetoric is coming from. It's absurd. Everybody knows that China is not a communist country. It is. So, you know, even they called it social >> everyone except the Chinese apparently. >> They called it socialism with Chinese characteristics. You you need to look into the history of China. It's not what you think it is. Actually

there was a major meeting between uh the uh what was his name who founded uh socialism with Chinese characteristics and his henchmen and they came to New York and they met with the major banks United you know the the US banks are all invested and they have been since 1970s Isn't it isn't this standoff between uh communism and uh capitalism you think it is there there's you know the United States is is socialist too in in many respects. We have war socialism for sure, the funding of the military-industrial complex. We have Israel socialism, of course,

funding and uh funding Israel and uh giving them social welfare. This is a socialist country. So, I don't know what you're talking about. This there's no giant Ideological standoff. That's that's complete propaganda from the Cold War. Even the Cold War was a fraud on both countries. The Cold War was a fraud on both countries because the United States was giving was giving the manufacturing uh capacity to to the USSR to produce weapons that were used against uh American soldiers in Vietnam. So don't tell me about this ideological battle. It's >> even the Kurds. Even the

Kurds, you Fund, look, Solomon would tell you, you funded all the chick communists in the Kurds because like literally you don't give a damn about communism versus capitalism. You'll fund the communists in the Middle East as long as they um protect some of that oil and they create you'll fund you'll fund communism when communism um protects like the you know when it destabilizes the Middle East and stops countries from actually becoming independent and using their own oil. You They you've never been fighting against communism. This is just funding both sides of war in order to

prop up the dollar in a debt-based Ponzi scheme, just like the British Empire did, which is why they put the Federal Reserve in the middle of America in the first place to do to your government what they did to the British government and it was propped up by mercantalism just because it was done via covert financial weapons and mass destruction and covert regime Changes and proxy wars and militias and fake ideological [ __ ] Like, you're just going to, you know, I'm sorry your government has lied to you so much about everything. Every accusation is

a confession. I know you hate Israel, but Israel is just a manifestation of US foreign policy and what it does all around the world, >> Simon. I thought you said that we're trying to devalue the dollar so we're not propping up the dollar. Right. >> You are because you're not national anymore. You sold the whole country to the banks and the banks and transnational capital are devaluing the dollar because there is no America first business and they bought Trump and Trump is executing the policy of the financial institutions that are currently um executing this right

now. You sold your country. It's not nationalistic. The government is owned by the lobbies. Like it's corporate capture. In the UK it's Just obvious. We know it. But in America, you actually still think there's some degree of sovereign nation that's looking out for America. You were the the entire country is a debt obligation to the stock market that's owned by 95% of the wealthy and 65 trillion of it is foreignowned. Which is why BlackRock is partnering with the sovereign wealth funds in China to strategically weaken the dollar. And Trump needs to pretend that that he's

Doing something different when all he's doing is a tariff policy in order to reset the world order and usher in this new world that we're that somehow you got to still think that they're trying to make America the global hegeimon. Like the people that control America are not trying to make America the global hedgeimon because it's at the end of its profit cycle. And so it's just asset stripping and propping up the stock market and leaving the debt on your Pension. And then you need to regime change the Federal Reserve so you can push down

the interest rates so that you can artificially pay a low interest rate on your pension with the money that Black Rockck essentially creates every single dollar and has just left the entire country in debt with a handful of elites that are getting the benefit from the other side. And what do they do with your pension? They pull it together, Create a mortgage back securities, and then get you to buy the debt as well. And that's the only reason you're rolling over the debt because Trump's deregulating the pension market while pushing down interest rate so that

he can dump the bonds and make the American people the bag holder. I'm sorry. Trump doesn't work for you. He works for the banks. It's a fantasy. >> Can I just add to that because it's it's really interesting. He actually asked The SEC and the regulatory agencies to be able to write some guidance on how Orisa can be bypassed. Like he's telling them to find ways to go around the things that protect the American people. Like what? What? Anyway, I I just have to laugh at it now because I was so mad earlier um with

the whole IRS thing. I don't know if you guys heard about that. Can I let me let me just lighten the mood because uh it's it's actually so outrageous that It's it's funny now. But like so Trump decides that he's going to go and he's going to sue the IRS and he's going to sue the Treasury. Okay. He's going to sue them for um exposing or you know like the his tax record back during his first term. Um, so now the guy that did it, it was a contractor and he was criminally prosecuted and he's

in prison. He's actually doing five years for this. But Trump said, "No, no, no." So he recently Filed a lawsuit. The lawsuit is in the sum of 10 billion dollar. Okay,$10 billion. and he currently is actually the one overseeing the agencies that he's suing. And what's crazy about that is that he even said out of his own mouth that he's going to have to work out a settlement with himself. What the [ __ ] is happening right now? Sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, Brix. Anyway, um so yeah, he is going to be Suing and then so

then Bent was at uh in front of Congress. Um he was being asked about what? Yeah. He was being asked about like so who's who you know so what money if he wins what money you know where does this money come from? Basically the taxpayers. The taxpayers are going to pay Donald Trump. Okay. Because he felt violated by the agencies that he now oversees. And he's going to take the 10 billion Dollars. And what he said in one clip and then I'm gonna land it here is that well we're just going to, you know, we'll

give it to a bunch of charities and so we can come with a substantial amount. He's basically telling you that the reason why they can get away with asking for so much is because they're going to act like they're giving it to charities. But then when you look into this, it's actually impossible to tell what he's going to do with it. Like Until it goes through the whole thing. Like they won't even be able to check that he's doing that. It's just wild. Like I like >> remains this this is uh this is not breaking

is it? This is the same thing that came out in January right towards the end of January or something else happened today. >> It is the same thing. >> Well Janu that was like a few days ago. Um Right. What? >> Yeah. It's not brand new but it was like within a week. >> Yeah it was like a week. Yeah within a week. It wasn't today. >> Yeah that >> Yeah. I know. I just came across it today and just, you know, when when they played the um so the clip of of him Bent being

asked like, "Well, who's going to be paying for this?" That intrigued me and I went on like my own little crazy dive to figure out what's going on here. It just feels like robbery, like theft. And then the way he talks about it is so it's it's like what he's he really thinks well I mean I'm I'm not going to lie. I'm starting to think they are too but American people like are just fall for any [ __ ] thing. Like it's excuse my language. I'm so sorry. They just keep slipping out left and right.

But they just fall for anything. I feel like there's this inability to like fathom that this is happening on such a large Scale. like the amount of theft and robbery that's happening. I don't I really honest to God I don't know how I'm going to be able to just eat that. Like if he were to win this and everybody just goes on their merry way. I'm just like I cuz even the people there was 440,000 Americans who also had their um tax records uh leaked. They're not suing, right? He's suing, but they're going to be

paying. It's just wild. I don't know. >> But Maize, how much of the US government? >> Okay, >> just quick on let me just quickly give this super chat. Um, this is from the cool, which is a $9.99 super chat. And he says, "Who did you stop from?" I think this is to Manco, I presume. Who did you stop from rising? If two Muslim countries want to become one country or a religious party, win some election, it's an automatic CIA coupe or a NATO Bombing campaign. What really are you on? Okay, this might be against

Sam as well. I'm not sure who he's speaking against cuz I was having that debate. Mano said like I think and I'm I don't want to paraphrase MCO but that America didn't stop anybody from doing their own thing and rising. I think it's um I think it's a response to that asking you the question um Manose but just before you go there Manose um I just want to give some news. So, um, President Trump Was asked, um, today, just a short while ago, it is breaking. What about Jlane Maxwell? Um, are you thinking about pardoning

her? Because he's got her to a a low security prison, hasn't he? So, they released a clip a couple of days ago of her in her normal prison cell with her red jumpsuit on and everything. And they've just released a clip today of her walking in a in a in a garden in greenery, you know, little shorts on in the sunshine. And um that happened Because of President Trump. So they asked him today um about, you know, the possibility of him pardoning Jazan Maxwell. And I've got a little clip. It's a bit noisy because he's

I think is near his helicopter. And I can play it's only 30 seconds. But he says he doesn't say I'm not going to do it because of the crime she's committed and because what she's been imprisoned for. What he says is um I haven't thought about it but I am allowed to do it. So that's What he says. I'll just play it realistically. >> Would you consider a pardon or something I haven't thought about really I'm allowed to do it but it's something I have not thought about it. >> So sorry about the background noise.

Um Manos um Simon back to you. That was really interesting discussion. What did you say? >> Just before he answered that, we got another super chat from uh Cool, which Is Oh yes, M. Uh yeah, so he said, "Oh yes, as he's talking to Mango said, oh yes, Mango, we have all these bases throughout Muslim land so we can all party and have a good time. You're not the good guy, bro. You're dark." >> Mango, what's your thoughts on his two comments? Yeah, on that comment, the thing is that we have those bases there because

the countries that the bases are in want them to be there. So, we're the good guys to all of those countries, Which is a lot of countries. The country that doesn't think we're the good guys is Iran because Iran wants to beat up on those countries where the US bases are and we're stopping them from doing that. >> Okay. this is going to be a real identity crisis for you over the next um two decades like when people can actually talk and write the history books in the right way and um you know it it

was it was quite I I imagine it was very shocking um you know for for People to learn like the British history but you know it was really propagandized and you know we were brought up saying we're civilizing the world and we're exporting democracy and we wanted to go over to India and we wanted to help the savages and we wanted to really support them. Like it it's going to be a real identity crisis when when you figure out like what your country and I'm not blaming the people. The people were completely indoctrinated. Um, but

when when when the real history is written and you get to actually see it from the people that have been on the wrong side of those bombs and were forced to have those military bases there and like the gaslighting that they're experiencing while they listen to you tell them that that was because we were trying to help them and they wanted us there. Like I I get that that might make you feel a certain way and it might help you keep the [ __ ] together, But it's seriously gaslighting for the people that have actually

had to die and suffer as a result of those those forcing of those military bases because they had no choice but to engage with what your military enforced upon people. >> Manka Yeah. The thing with US history is that this idea that we have propagandized history is complete nonsense as far as it being nationalistic. Because you have to remember the Democrats, the liberals who control most of education and who are half the country hate America, hate American foreign policy has been they have been calling America the bad guy on the world stage all throughout the

cold war. So we don't have this like propagi propagandized nationalist history. It would be awesome if we did. I would support us having more of that being taught in classrooms instead of children in America being raised to hate, you Know, the national character of their country from its inception to the present day and having been propagandized against America, which is how things actually work here. So, I don't think there's an unspoken history. I have learned quite a lot from the perspective of America's enemies um throughout my education and I had like socialist or Marxist professors

in college who love to show that perspective. So I'm aware of all the Perspectives and in the case of our enemies for the most part they are also engaged in their own propaganda to try to make America look worse than the reality was. And I think overall when you look at what the most reliable sources are, it tends to be the sources that are more proame mango can keep up his um fantasy and you know the decades ahead the world is going to learn the truth and it's the Truth that all that is all that

matters. Um, >> can I just ask you a question? Right. You say that about Mango, but you know what? I find it quite refreshing that Manos comes up here and shares his thoughts with us because I suspect there's a lot of people in America who think like Mango or even are not open to talking about it at all because this is just the way they think. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Sure. No, I I appreciate Mango. It's it's a respectful conversation. I've got respect for Mango. I I see the world very differently to

he sees it, but we're just up here having a respectful conversation. Um, and uh, we're all victims of propaganda, right? We develop our own map of the world based upon our experiences and our environments. And I it took me a long time to to figure out like a different version of the world to what I had to Believe in a nationalistic version of the world. And um you know it once you understand the supply chain of most of this technology uh then then you just realize that it's it's a bit gaslighting that you know I

understand why people wouldn't want immigration and things like this. But when you know that much of the war and the reason these people were displaced from the country was to take their resources And once they had those resources they were able to use a debt based Ponzi scheme to get the whole world to lend to the US government and then when they were lending to the US government they were able to build a mill that would essentially enforce um all of these resources to be used for all of that technological innovation And if you want

to look at what it created to create an iPhone, it requires death across six continents in order to do That. And I'm not saying that as a socialist. I'm not saying that as a communist. I'm saying that as somebody that's a capitalist that thinks that capitalism should have a degree of ethics and morality in it. And it's easy to think that none of that happened, but there was a lot that went behind making sure that the average American person while it was being raped by the Federal Reserve didn't know what the military-industrial complex was doing

Because they made you believe that they were trying to help the world while they were just trying to steal the resources, extract the resources, and innovate technology. Not to help the world, but to kill people. Virtually every technological innovation that someone like Elon Musk is given was innovated to kill people more efficiently and then it created a brochure um to sell around the world. And um you know we're now hitting the end of a debt Cycle and that same military-industrial complex that you sold your country to and the same banks that you sold your country

to. they're deciding to test out a few of these um covert operations on at home. And um you know, I think Americans are having and and Brits and and Europe and the collective West, they're having a bit of a trauma right now because they're experiencing approximately 1% Of what American and British imperialism did to the Palestinians. Um and uh that's just the reality. like um it was a hard pill for me to swallow. Um but just follow the money, follow the resources, and find out what this is real. Just just remember everything they're telling you

about the wars right now was a lie. Like Trump pretended that Venezuela was about drugs. Um Trump and Biden pretended that Gaza was about protecting Jews. Like I if you can see everything that's happening right now is just lie after lie after lie after lie. That's the entire history. That's never stopped. What we're witnessing right now is not exceptional. It's just because the banks have decided to actually show you and and demonstrate to you because they're gaslighting you into a surveillance state. Um and and that's just, you know, this is how the system always works.

You're Just seeing how it worked. Everything that happened in Palestine is how it's always worked. This is not exceptional. This is not a bug. It's a feature of the system. >> Yeah. I don't know how anybody could have lived through the >> Dr. Michael, I'm going to give it straight to you. I really apologize. I'm interrupting you. Let me just quickly read the super chat and then I'll give it straight to you. This is from the Cool >> n uh $10 super chat. He says, >> "Were this is to I believe were Obama and Hillary

not Democrats? Did you see what they did to the Middle East? UN US foreign policy is bipartisan, sir. Uh, sorry, Dr. Michael, I interrupted you. Go ahead. >> Yeah. >> Well, yeah, and that's true of Israel, by the way, but it's not necessarily True in other parts of the world. >> But, uh, what I was saying was I I don't know how anyone could have lived through the Iraqi war, just that that's enough. and still say the United States hasn't has has not uh thwarted the uh ambitions or the li you know the prosperity and

the well-being of other countries on purpose. I mean and then this is not to mention that uh of course we we armed Sodom Hussein in the first place. Okay. The United States armed Sodom Hussein uh To to to be at war with Iran and then when he went over the line, they decided he was number one enemy. And uh it had nothing to do with 9/11, of course. And yet we destroyed that country. I mean, you know, uh millions uh displaced, million dead. It's insane. And I don't know how you'd live through that and say

the United States is some beacon on the hill. I am not anti-American. I am actually American idealist. I believe in what America could be and what it has set itself out to be. This is I am not anti-American. What I am is anti anti-American. The the things that this country does which are utterly contradictory to its ideals and its stated mission. That's what I despise. And that has been the history of this country. imperialism, massacres. Look at Vietnam. I mean, unbelievable. I lived through it watching it on TV as a as a child. It Was

horrific. Horrific what we did. And to find out that we actually were also funding the USSR in some sense by giving them equipment to make arms that you that were used on the United States. So the whole cold war was a complete fraud on both countries and on the rest of the world as well. a complete fraud. There was not It was complete fraudulence because they were playing both sides. Of course, they were playing both sides, You know, arming both sides and uh making money off of the whole thing. Simon's 100% correct. I wish I

had a deloquence, but uh I appreciate everything. >> Go to Viet Thank you, Dr. Michael. Go to Vietnam right now. Honestly, go travel. I I've been to Vietnam. Go to that war museum. Go to the streets in Vietnam. There are still people on the streets homeless with chemical uh mutations all over their face with no Limb, with no arm. Like you can still see it in the streets in Vietnam. Like it it it is still mutated um as a result and you can just see it across Vietnam to this day. >> Yeah. I just point

out one thing which is the reason that we invaded Iraq in the first place is because Saddam Hussein invaded and conquered Kuwait and it was to liberate Kuwait. >> You mean with the with the babies taken out of incubators and all that? Yeah, we Know about that stuff. It's really, you know, I don't >> He was trying to protect for the anthrax. >> Yeah. >> Sorry, Dr. Michael, I interrupted you. >> Oh, that's all right. That's all right. I just wanted to say that uh I I just don't I listen I I don't want to

see this as left versus right because this isn't about whether you know the academyy's taken over by the left and All this nonsense. This is not really what we're talking about here. We're talking about what a state has done uh in order to enrich its investors and its its ruling class. Really that's what it's come down to that they have they they use the state. It is their basic weaponry that they use to attack other people to gain wealth for themselves. That's what a ruling class does. And I'm not a communist. This is I'm an

anti-statist. And I think without the state, these corporations couldn't do what they do. I I believe in a free market. That is not crony capitalist garbage that we have right now. Or I would call it actually corporate socialism to be more precise. And I agree with you on that. >> Yeah. Could I jump in real quick since the Vietnam came up? Um, you know, you don't have to travel to Vietnam to see the atrocities there. I'd suggest you take a a journey over to Washington DC to the Vietnam Memorial. And on one of those uh

sections, you'll see my cousin's name there who was killed September the 6, 1968 at the age of 20. Um, and then maybe you can also, you know, my dad came back severely injured and when he died in 2002 from weird cancers that we all know where that came from. Um, and completely deaf, by the way. Um, but never got a Purple Heart because they had scooped him up from a flight line in Daang and sent him Over to Laos to lay uh, radar beacons on the Ho Chi Men Trail. And he couldn't tell us that

till he was on his deathbed. But because it was all classified at the time, he couldn't get a Purple Heart. Or tell the guy that he was with who was from Ohio, Charles O'Reilly, that tell his parents that he didn't die in an accident he created on the flight line, but he died doing a covert uh CIA operation that they had no choice in. And then come back and tell Me what was that for? Who was the winner there? Nobody was. We we lost there. There was no winner. There's 68,000 plus names on that Vietnam

Memorial. And and also when you I was a history teacher for a while. And when you talk about the history books, you might want to look and see that why is it that McGra Hill, Amanda, who was very ignorant at the time, thought it was some Irish publishing company, uh why they provided all the textbooks for American students, When we know now that that was owned by Maxwell, uh Just Lane's dad. Um, you might want to also go and look and see what General Patton said after the war when he said in from Germany that

we had fought the wrong enemy. And it's an interesting, you can call me a conspiracy theorist, but uh, you know, his normal driver wasn't driving him and then he was in a severe car accident and then he died. Uh, there are conspiracy theorists like me who believe they Probably killed him. Um, you know, we have a lot to learn about the true history of our of our country. Um, we get into these wars for the bankers. The bankers, you know, they they fund both sides and they've been doing it for, I would say, a few

hundred years. We can go back and look at the Civil War and find the same thing there. Uh, we could probably go back at least as far as Napoleon and see it there. So, we've been lied to. And I'm 67 almost 68 years Old. I I was, you know, born with an American flag, I swear, wrapped around my body. And I sent my son off to war, my ex-husband off to war, my dad a couple of times off to war. Um, and now we look back and we say, for nothing, absolutely nothing, my family's been

serving in the military since the Revolutionary War. Um, we're not doing it anymore. are my four little grandsons under the age of two will never see an American uniform and we've all decided That as a family. So Moses I would suggest you know you have to do your own research with all due respect man it is it at my age I feel like I was living in the Truman show. Wait till you get to the part where we didn't even land on the moon and I remember that day when my dad made us come inside

to watch. I remember the day to come home and my mom, my Irish mom from Ireland's balling. I'm five years old trying to figure out why they sent me home from School early at Mather Air Force Base in Sacramento to find out that Kennedy had been assassinated. I mean, everything we've been taught, Americans are the the most propagandized people on the planet in my opinion. And and I learned all of this from my son who served and who got out um in 2019 under Trump by the way because and he was an officer thinking that

uh it was going woke at that time. So imagine him and his buddies who are now what they're feeling now and all the Veterans that we know and and how they beg their friends who are flying those uh stealth bombers to this day begging them to get out to get out of the military including a couple of those that are women by the way that are flying. So Mangos I I I really implore you to start doing your own research. Um, you've been fed a big giant lie. And when you finally swallow that pill, if

you don't choke to death on it, you're It takes It takes days, if not weeks. I mean, I've been going through it for a couple of over two years now. Um, it's heartbreaking. It's absolutely heartbreaking. But, um, yeah, go to the go just go over to the Vietnam Memorial and then tell me what we won. That's all I would ask you to do. The only thing I would say, >> man, I'm gonna give it to you in two seconds. Just got to read the chat. Um, this one is from cool again who says, "The US

was manufacturing hammer and sickle core buttons for the USSR in Detroit, Michigan. The US couldn't even doesn't give an f about communism." Um, to adding to the point that Simon made, sorry, back to you, MCO. >> Yeah. I mean, if you go to Vietnam now, they love Americans. uh because people don't care about stuff from over 50 years ago. They care about the fact that they're getting opportunities and money from America now. So, they generally Don't hold the grudges. But the other thing is it was important to fight the Vietnam War because it tied up

the resources of communism of the USSR and China for over a decade. And had we just given in and not defended South Vietnam, not only would they have fallen extraordinarily quickly, but the communists would have just moved on to a new front and attacked a new country and we would have had to fight them somewhere. And so we might as well fight Them in the first country that they attacked. And that's what we did. And we held them off for a very long time. And eventually the American people hold on, hold on, calm down, calm

down. So, and we held them off for a very long time until American public opinion, thanks to anti-war liberals, was enough turned against the war that Nixon concluded a peace treaty and got us out. And then two to three years after the peace treaty, the North invaded the South Again, and that time we didn't intervene. And that's why the North won against the South without the United States there. But we kicked their butts all over the place the whole time we were there. >> No, we didn't. And in fact, we landed helicopters actually. >> No,

we did not. You don't. You haven't studied the Vietnam War. We >> lost. Yes, we did. Helicopters to take people off the roof of the embassy. We did not win. We weren't fighting at that time, woman. That was >> You don't need to call me woman. Manco, keep respectful, please. Uh, you can do this that on other spaces, which I'm pretty sure you don't do. Uh, but keep it respectful, please. Go ahead, man. Uh, Amanda. >> Well, I I we didn't win that war. We didn't We We haven't We haven't We used To think we'd

won World War I and World War II. We haven't. We used to think we'd won World War I and World War II. And now with my son and I and and just, you know, doing more historical uh research, been in Iraq, we haven't won anything. The only thing that we've done is we have spent trillions and trillions of American money and and just in just in the Gulf War there, we we lost 7,000 People and that doesn't not to mention the pe you know the Afghanis and the Iraqis that those were millions and then we

have all of these veterans here at home now who I can assure you your family life is destroyed because they don't come back the same. They My dad didn't come back the same. They don't come back the same. And and the family lives are destroyed. We have veterans killing themselves at what 22 a day. We haven't won jack [ __ ] We've won Nothing. So please, Mano, stop with the winning. We don't We don't win. The only people that win are the bank people. Americans don't win. >> Ju just before Thanks for that, Ma. Just

before I want to go to Simon, obviously Mano's going to respond. I've just got one question for Moses. Um, Moses, it's just simply yes or no question. Do you believe in the moon landing? >> Yeah. Do I believe they actually went to the moon? Yes, I do. >> And and that was the the first man to land on the moon was um Okay. The chat the YouTube chat about four people asked for that to be asked, hence why I'm asking. Um, not an interest of mine, but uh yeah, exactly. >> Why you chat? So, what

if they're off their rockers on a conspiracy theorist? They're still people. >> But, uh, yeah, let's go to Simon, your co-host. You don't have to put your hand up. Over to you and then you can uh then Michael, I know you want to respond. You can respond. >> Okay. Yeah. No, I I didn't want to interrupt because I think it's important for, you know, Americans to have their um their moment. But I I do want to agree with Amanda that um uh you have to redefine America. Uh because the goal of all of those wars

and American power did win uh they won all of them because the goal wasn't to win the war and change something and kill communism. The goal was to burden the American people with debt and use that debt to prop up Loheed Martin, General Dynamic, Rathium, Boeing, and all the manufacturing that came from it um and profit from war. And so the longer the war goes on for, the more the wealth extraction happens from the average American person to the American elite. Um, and that was the goal of all of those wars. Um, and that is

still the goal of the wars today. It's just China Has kind of come along and said, you know what, if you want to do that thing near me, we might need to negotiate a little bit. Um, and that's all that's changed today. Um, so the goal of the war is always to burden the American people with the debt. Uh, radicalize the average American into believing that they're doing it for their country. Um, and then, uh, they're just tools for wealth transfer from the average American people to the American stock Market. The longer that war goes

on for, the more that is a victory. It doesn't really matter how many people get killed. it doesn't really matter like whether the optics are that you won or lost. It's just to sell weapons to roll over the debt. Um and that's exactly the model that was created in England that was exported to America. >> I I'd like to add one thing. It's probably helps with the child trafficking too, right? I'm sure that's Another byproduct of these wars. >> Yeah. Well, that's how you fund the CIA. You do some drug trafficking, human trafficking, sex trafficking,

and then when you get in those countries, you fund some militia groups and communists, and uh you tell them, "You go and guard that oil. Um, and we'll give you a little bit of a cut, and we'll uh do some uh you know, we'll we'll we'll send some weapons your way. Um, and uh, just make sure you know when we kill your Children and we radicalize you that you come to our training camp and you think you're resisting against us, but it turns out you're working for us. I >> think the same was the same

was true with this standoff between the Soviet Union and the United States. As I've tried to make clear, Anthony C. Sutton is the guy to read about this. He starts with the the founding of the Soviet Union. And of course it was founded with The money of bankers in New York and uh Berlin and elsewhere. And uh the funding really was they were trying to create a captive colony of uh where they could e you know extort natural extort uh natural resources and uh have a a total monopoly system in place uh for their endeavors.

uh the bank uh in particular. So this whole standoff is is phony. It's a phony standoff. It's it's never been what it's been uh portrayed to be. I Think the whole uh the whole Cold War was really a fraud. And uh you know, so I I just don't I just don't see it uh that that the United States citizen gets anything out of these wars. What we get is debt. What we get is dead. What we get is maimed. What we get is psychologically damaged. This is what we get. Thank you so much, bankers. Thank

you very much. And this and then they wrap them in a flag. And you'll notice there's a flag behind my uh Behind my portrait here. And that's because I do believe in the ideals of America, but I don't believe in what it's done, which has been a history of atrocities. Maze, did you want to jump in? >> I'm gonna drop back down and I'm sorry, Maize. I'm going to drop down and and so there's more space. But thank you for letting me speak. I really appreciate it. >> Thanks, Amanda. >> Amanda, that was so powerful.

I appreciate you coming up here and sharing your story with us. I I think it was I mean even for people like me who just I mean from a I don't know over high level like bird's eye view I was aware of those things but to hear the story um you you definitely made it intimate. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. It's wild. But um I what I was talking about like a long time ago was already We're so past it now that I just I don't want to go back. But I appreciate the

conversation. It's really good. Awesome. Let's go to uh Truth. Go ahead, Truth. >> Hello. Hello. Hi. Can you guys hear me? >> Yeah, there's a lot of background noise though. >> Get your kid Get your kid. >> Sure. Um Okay. Sorry. No, I just wanted to make some comments Um about everything that everybody's been talking about. Um, Mango was saying that uh, you know, China is the one uh, the United States is buying everything from China. The United States when the United States was you know in its golden age, it was the United States that

manufactured everything and Americans were the consumers that purchased it. And that's why the American standard of living was the best standard of living in the world. And now the United States Is $35 trillion in debt. I know that's boring. We always talk about that. I don't think people want more a paper with pictures of dead presidents on it. And I believe the president of China, he wants his people also to have a great standard of living. And the Chinese are working their blood, sweat, and tears to sell send their products over to the United States

of America. So that and all we have to do is print print paper and we get all those products. And I Think those days are going to come to an end. And the Chinese are going to say, you know what, all those things that we produce that the whole world wants, we want to consume them. We also want a good standard of life and we also want a good standard of living. So this idea that oh only Americans consume and without us consuming or or or the rest of the world consuming, China's going to die.

I think that's such a such a ridiculous idea because the whole world Wants nice things. That's why the whole world wants to come live in America and Europe because those countries still have, you know, all that leftover wealth of of infrastructure and production. Now they want it. So, so why do they come to these countries is because they want it. So, if they can have it in their countries, even better. Um, also you guys were talking about uh, you know, America's wars and you know the United States did go and destroy Iraq for Absolutely no

reason other than the basis of that it was weapons of mass destruction and they made George Bush sent, you know, people off to die. I mean, forget it. I know nobody cares about uh I'm not going to say nobody, but I'm going to say most Americans don't really care about all the Iraqis that were killed, but you sent your own people off to go and die in those wars. And then he made a joke about it. He was he showed a picture of himself like Upside down and he wrote no WMDs there and everybody in

the room was laughing like this was so serious. They had Coen Powell at the United Nations holding up these little tubes of god knows what, saying, "Oh my god, Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and this big war in shock and awe." And all the American people were like, I remember my teacher, uh, I was telling her, "Why are we going to go invade Iraq?" And she got so angry at me. She looked at me and she's like, "Well, if other people want to destroy us, we have a right to defend ourselves." I was like

in sixth grade or or something like that. And I didn't really have an answer for her cuz I was so young. But I remember like the anger like people had and I I remember going on a school bus one day and there was like some Indian kid sitting on the bus and there was another guy like a white guy and he just pulled down his pants and he's like this is for anybody that's Iraqi on the bus. I'm assuming he thought the Indian kids were Iraqi. So I just remember like the amount of hate that

there was for Iraq at that time to go and kill all these people and at the end it's just a big joke. George W. Bush is just making a big joke and laughing about it. Um and and Mano saying like America America I I personally believe the United States of America and the West exist to serve the state of Israel. Um and that's why and I don't believe There's one Jeffrey Epste. I believe there's many Jeffrey Epsteines out there. uh we're talking about this Jeffrey Epste and they're they provide girls, they provide boys, they provide

wi whatever you want as long and Lindsey Graham is probably one of them. Um I mean look at this administration. They're protecting pedophiles. There's emails coming out in the Epstein files um about trafficking trafficking children at at the age of like 9 10 11 Years old and they're redacting the names that were conversing with Jeffrey Epstein about uh you know uh uh raping children and this is who the United States government is protecting pedophiles. Pedophiles linked to Israeli Mossad agent Jeffrey Epstein. So that's why I say this whole country is basically exists to serve the

state of Israel. And you guys uh previously were talking about Saddam Hussein invading Iraq. Mango was saying he invaded Iraq. There's actually you can look this up. Saddam told the United States that he was going to go and invade Iraq. He was going to go invade Kuwait. And the United States transmitted a me message back to him saying it's not our business what you do. Because they were setting him up. They wanted him to go attack Kuwait so that they had a reason to go in and start the Gulf War and start start setting up

shop in the uh in the Middle East. And that's why you hear at That time they were telling that fake story that Iraqi soldiers were going into Kuwait and ripping babies out of the incubators and Americans were like, "Oh my god, those poor babies that which never happened." Which never happened. all those po but but all the babies in Gaza that have been being slaughtered for the past two three years. Nobody gives a damn about this. >> You're right, Truth. >> Um on point on point in everything you Said there. Appreciate all the all the

points you made. I am going to give it to Mango in a second to respond to what you've got what you said uh because you did make quite a lot of points. Just want to welcome Ryan onto the stage. Ryan, hope you're doing well. How are you? I'm just watching the media panic. Every outlet blaming Epstein on Russia is just paid by the same network. Like, oh, maybe it was Putin. He Couldn't even get a meeting with Putin. He's meeting with presidents of Israel, prime ministers of Israel, the highest levels of Israel. He's donating to

the IDF. He's donating to Friends of Israel and all these different Jewish groups. His girlfriend's the daughter of a Israeli asset, an Israeli spy. Wexner is his financial backbone. And that whole his whole federation was created by Hagana. But it's the Russians. This is so pathetic. I mean, They even brought out steel again from the original Russia gate hoax to say it's Russia. That's desperate. And then just Clinton's like, "Oh, I I'll talk about Epstein, but I want it to be open cameras because you're going down with me." And the Republicans are like, "No, no,

no. You got to talk behind closed doors in a kangaroo court." It's just comical. And like, where's the files from the CIA? Why don't you unredact the files you just released? Like, we still And you didn't even give us half of of those. It's clown world. And then I see Tucker has Ian on to talk about Epstein. [ __ ] I I just give up. >> How bad was how bad >> interview was it? Okay. I haven't seen that. >> I I'm not going to watch that crap. That clown. I was just like, dude, he

didn't even know about Epstein till like 2019. And it's just whatever, dude. I'm Getting passed over again. Tucker's scared. Uh, whatever. Kuwait was angle drilling in taking oil from Iraq that they desperately needed to pay off the debts from their long war with Iran. And the US and Israel orchestrated those two into fighting each other, too. It's just endless. And and Simon's right, like Vietnam, I used to call it the the war of helicopters and heroin. Like the propheteers, if you look at it from their point of view, They won the war because all their

goals were met. They didn't care whether the Vietkong were communist or monarchist or republic. It didn't matter. It was just a theater through which a medium for profitering for Bell and Johnson. A lot of the congressmen behind that and Johnson ends up becoming president. Little baby Hueies. They made a lot of money. They made a killing. They got rid of expendables. You know, about a quarter of the Casualties in Vietnam were >> blacks. And uh they categorized Latino as white, so you don't really know how many whites died in Vietnam. They threw like 47,000 Native

Americans in a NOM. It's a pointless war. It was not about domino effects or anything like that. Like the CIA would go and discover weapons they planted and so they could get PB uh success in Guatemala and stuff. They weren't serious like threats of the Cold War. It's not like Completely fake, but like a lot of it was just orchestrated ugabooga. Oh my god, the communists. So they could have an excuse to go uh dominate Latin America with corporate America. It's like, well, and they could rightly say, well, this [ __ ] is a despot.

I'm like, yeah, well, you're not different. It's just arguing over which gang gets to control a tax base. It's disgusting. You're you're governed by a bunch of wararmongering pedophiles. That's the World we live in. And I swear they could get on stage and eat a baby. And you know it would somehow be Russia's fault or Iran. Uh I mean they they bombed hospitals and what they did in Gaza. Like you can't get worse than that. Like what exactly would they have to do to get the world to turn on them? Just there is no evil

great enough. I swear they could nuke a place and get away with it. >> What's the um We had a really good Interview, Orion. Everyone loved that interview you did on the on the YouTube. We've put it out and some of the clips have got a lot of views. Um especially other channels like >> I'm streaming that right now on my Rumble and so I waited a few days so you got all the clicks and now I'm putting it up. >> Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, >> it's a good one. It's there. I've been doing I

got one with Ethan Ralph here Soon. I did one with Clint Russell. I did one with Red Ice. Like these are the shows I'm going on, which are awesome. But it's never going to be Tucker Rogan or that Upper Echelon. Even though I've been doing this for 19 years and know more about Epstein than anyone else on Earth. They're not. And there's no way they don't know that yet because the guests they're having on know that. A lot of them learned it from me. But I'm going to get black ballalled. They're They don't want to

get to the bottom of this. It's just entertainment for these people. They don't care about moving the needle. They don't want to know who needs to be subpoenaed or anything like that. I'm like, "Well, I could tell you. I'll put the list out now. You now you know cuz every name on that [ __ ] list is in the files. Doesn't matter." And I knew it wasn't going to matter. Remember me coming on me like it doesn't matter. You can say This. It doesn't matter. >> Yeah. Yeah. Look, I get that there's a lot of

uh as you said, gatekeeping. There's a lot of uh people who want to use other people's knowledge and information to hit the limelight. It is what it is. You got to deal with that, Ryan. >> It's not No, I blame the person like, okay, if you get asked to go on Rogan, go on Rogan. I don't blame Ian Carol for for grifting and and being an Opportunist clown. Uh, you know, he did the same with Candace Owens, who thinks she can travel through dreams and time and solve mysteries, you know, whatever. [ __ ] is

it's stupid. But I see what's going to happen with the Cook movement is they're going to start saying Epstein's still alive and all this dumb [ __ ] And just like they did in 9/11, they're going to make us all look [ __ ] because that's the only way to kill this is to start amplifying, oh, Did you know they ate babies on a boat? And just dumb [ __ ] like that. That's what they're going to go with. I see the Clint Russell like comments because I explained exactly why Epstein definitely had to die

and they had his corpse and two autopsies and all that. They're just like, "Oh, who's this shill? He's still alive and he's in Israel." And they always connected to Israel, the he's still alive crap to make the anti-Israel crowd crowd look [ __ ] >> But the thing is, they are [ __ ] That's the problem. >> We are [ __ ] >> Half the people against this are [ __ ] stupid. And that's why we can't get anywhere. >> Well, also the the player is if you say he's in Israel and you deny it,

then they'll say the people who've been fighting against Israel before anyone even knew what Israel was, then call us Mossad agents. So like it's like it's Actually a double um a double entered uh claim they make. First of all, they get the dumb people on their side, but the second thing is if you're like, "No, he's not in Israel. He's he just he's dead." You're like, "What are you a shill? Are you have you sold out?" That's the like aim what the aim of the game as well. >> Will they break John Lernell out of

jail too and Epstein out of jail but they left Maxwell in there to rot or they Probably think that's a body double or something. They have an excuse for everything. He's so [ __ ] dumb and I'm tired of it. Like I knew this was going to happen. I'm like the Cook movement is going to be like 4chan and they're going to go with he's still alive stuff. The only reason Epstein didn't kill himself worked as a mean is because it agreed with the dumb asses that think they did a jailbreak and he's secretly alive

and the people who said he was murdered Because it both mean he didn't kill himself. But like they had that divided about 5050. About half of the people interested in the Epstein case think he's still alive. Like this is like this is why weed should be illegal. Like this is like get rid of it. It's making people [ __ ] >> and it's just I I don't know. I'm like I don't have the energy to deal with cooks again. I did it long enough of September 11th with the airplane deniers and Saying a miss at

the Pentagon, all that dumb [ __ ] And then and they were saying this stuff. I'm like, "Okay, you what you don't understand is every other claim you make about Epstein around an adult, they're just going to roll their eyes and go because you're saying like they put a like somebody they had some 66-year-old corpse that they swapped in and then just do a second autopsy for no reason that disagrees with the first one and Concluded that it was murder just I don't know, just for drama, right? like they're so goddamn dumb and uh we're

just not going to get anywhere with this. Like I'm going to stop doing interviews about it. I'm going to stop explaining it. I'm not going to get because I'm like why? I get all this heat and cancellation and losing money and stuff and you guys just want entertainment conspirator >> stupid [ __ ] That's all you want. You Just want you just want like >> e drama. Like you don't care about these girls getting raped. You don't care about all the white collar crime at all. I don't think they really care about Gaza. was just

like half of them it's an excuse to bash on Jews. Like they don't give a [ __ ] about anything. We have such a nihilistic society that's just like politics is is MTV for them. It's like you see Elijah Schaefer drugged out of his Mouth. Who gives a [ __ ] To be honest, Brian, my view on this is before I defend the candidates and prove that actually the ancient Samrians did help Charlie Kirk travel back in time and he did have the ability to te teleport and telekinesis before >> Anunnaki. >> Before I prove

that point, what it is is Ryan actually when I look back on the last like seven or eight years, we well I can speak for myself and I think you Fall into this fall into this bracket as well. were always in the minority. Like we were fighting against everyone. We were the minority position and we were just smashing because we knew our position was so strong and they were too scared to even confront us. Now that flip and the majority's on our side, but in a kind of deformed way, it's actually worse cuz now it's

like they're like they know Israel's a problem, but then they'll come out with all of this other Dumbness and rather than for example prove that Jeffrey Epstein was an Israeli asset, there's like all this other dumbness in it. So, I actually think it's worse now. I think I prefer in the minority. >> Yeah. Judy Wood, like they're like, "Oh, they they talk non-stop about Israel and they're like, you know, they had space rays, right?" You know, or the anti-Israel people like, you know, I saw him turn into a lizard. Like, this is on Purp and

you know who came out and isn't doing like there's some people who really believe this stuff. Just been hit in the head too many times. But there's other people that like like Alex Jones came out right away with the he's still he had a guest on me like you think he's still alive and what was really creepy is CBS just at CVS you know CVS has been commandeered it's Barry Weiss now but they came out like oh this is a mysterious orange blah you don't see him In the cell it's kind of alluding like they

did tamper with the tape that's true like all the stuff CBS said was technically true but they arranged it in a way saying so he's so so they broke him out and he's still alive. Not they murdered him. They definitely [ __ ] murdered him. That ass he was the second time in jail. When you have an asset, an intelligence asset that's burned and has that much heat on him, you can never use them again. But he's a absolute Liability to be alive to plea bargain. If you get him out of jail now, he has

to hide for the rest of his life because anybody sees him ever, if there's any evidence ever, you're cooked. It's so dumb. And it's and it's just like and the other people and Bernell was killed in France or killed himself, whatever. But and Maxwell's in jail and then well she's not in jail jail anymore thanks to Trump. She's she's living it up in her little minimum security prison With her lesbian uh buddies. But Wexner is on the 18th. He's been subpoenaed. He'll probably go in and go, "Oh, my health. I can't talk." And then you've

got both Clintons. And we don't have Darren Endike and Richard Khan until all the way until August. You know, it's just like I don't know if we're going to make it that that long. I don't think the public has the attention span for that. Uh but where were these people in 2007 to 2019? >> Yeah. Um Maze got a question for you just before Maize jumps in with a question. There is a super chat and says to Ryan's point about nothing will happen, it goes back to humanity's love of worldly gains. Scared of a paycheck

being caught, scared of jail, scared to die, populations constantly living in cowardice. I don't think it's that actually. I think it's the opposite. I think it's actually next level stupidity. Like I think the IQ level is Like being with the majority means you're going to be with a lot of stupid people. And that's the problem we've got now is this is why I was saying like I prefer I always preferred like you know in COVID Russia Ukraine Brexit um well not Gaza but >> being anti-Isra >> like 20% of people think the earth is flat

>> being anti-Israel before October 7th like those were the minority positions Like they were the they were the best like it was always in my view it was always best to be in the minority like the majority is like it's like crazy and the worst thing is they'll they're the like if you disagree with them cuz they're stupid, they'll be like, "Oh, guess what? H have you sold out?" It's like, "No, bro. I haven't sold out. I got a brain. That's why I'm here and I open the doors for you to even enter cuz you're

retarded." Anyway, let's bring Someone else in before me and me and a fifth of America saying Earth is flat. Candace is agnostic about it. She doesn't understand that's still a stupid position. just >> listen angels and aliens and all that like like they all think ghosts are real and like >> we're just dumb. >> Well, don't say we, Ryan. But I'm going to defend the canderites. I do think That Charlie Kirk had um superpowers and I do think the the the lights blinkered and I do believe he was able to astrop project. And Miz, you

got a question for Ryan. Go ahead. >> Maroon shirts. >> I do. So, okay. I'm a moderate cook. Okay. I don't believe in flat earth and I definitely um I uh don't believe in reptilians. However, um >> thank you. But I will say that I you know I always at least entertain Something for a minute like when it comes to the Epstein thing um him being um escorted out and then that whole thing on 4chain that you just mentioned. What is your take on what was verified or I guess what the Epstein files do you

think that they put some fake [ __ ] in there to validate that to to spin the story? What do you think um that was about? >> There's nothing that he he wrote that seven hours after he died. It's not Like, oh, I said it before it happened or something like he just wrote about something that had already had he worked at the jail and so there's ambulances and stuff there. So what? Like yeah cuz he was dead. Your highest profile prisoner was murdered. >> Do you know that >> like you look at his neck

you look at the autopsy photos which is definitely of his body. Did they not go in there with Hollywood makeup and dress up a Corpse and god like it's him? Uh Mike Ben who Larry Johnson knows this guy I interview all the time. That was the pathologist. That was the medical examiner that determined that he was murdered, saw his body, he was dead. >> But they're like, "If I don't have it on highdefin film, then it didn't happen." They do the same thing with the Pentagon. because they can't see the plane hit it. They have

no other way to determine This. Not the fact that the parts of the plane are still in the building. DNA from all the passengers is in the building. There's no plane. No one saw a plane fly away from the building, only to the building. It didn't turn invisible. Like, they have no power of deduction or reasoning or anything. And same thing with Epstein. Like, you have his [ __ ] corpse. He had two autopsies. You'd have to get all the EMTs and all the other employees besides The 4chain guy in the building to all lie

together and say and just like a bunch of actors pretending to work on them and stuff like that's so [ __ ] dumb and it shouldn't have to be explained to anybody why that's so dumb. So the guy is actually sorry I do I didn't need a little bit of an explanation but so the guy So you're saying because we said look you're actually one of the best researchers ever when it comes to 911 when it comes To all nobody can fathom the >> special about what the guy said he said there was a trip

van they wheeled someone out >> well so Destiny did a whole deep dive on it and she she laid it out I I can't even nutshell it for you and I don't want to take up too much time I can maybe send you the link and you can look through it. She's an excellent resource. You know what? What they could do, what would be funny if he's don't have the Cellmate killing him, which the whole reason he is the cellmate is cuz he would kill him. That's why they chose him to be his roommate. They

already knew they're getting rid of this guy as soon as he got arrested. But let's say that didn't happen. You want to get an assassin in the jail and out of the jail, just dress him up as medical and then they can go in, get rid of somebody, and then come out as a patient or as a medic, whatever. That didn't Happen. But like there's a scenario you could do that is more plausible than we had a body switch. God damn, that's dumb. You cannot just throw a random corpse in there that looks just like

Jeffrey Epstein. Uh, and then his brother goes along with it and the both pathologists go along with it and everybody they're like, "Oh yeah, that's him." Like, and why? What upside is there to him being alive? He can't continue any Operations. Obviously, he's got enough heat that there is no upside. That's why they killed him. >> He's too much of a liability. That's the It's like the most stupidest argument ever. >> That's why they killed Robert Maxwell. You think? Why' they throw him off a boat? Because he had heat on him. >> Well, he had

that pension scan. He was done. He was a used asset. He's no longer worth anything. >> Well, Ryan, I think you're not thinking big picture because you don't understand that Charlie Kirk, um, Epstein, and Maxwell are all in Valhalla. So this is this is where your error lies. >> It's true. That's why that's why Charlie Kirk's uh Jesus necklace flew off his head as he was hit because he's actually an Odinist and he went to Bajala. >> Yeah. Yeah. By Valhalla mean >> it's a secret peg in the whole Candace called science a pagan faith.

She she's so stupid people. She has the number one podcast. That's what proof like when she went around saying Bridget Mcronone has a penis >> even though she's had three biological children. >> That's that's so dumb. It's so Yes, she has three kids. They're still alive. Her brother's still alive, too. They didn't swap identities with each other. He lives in France. Um when she did that, 7.5 million views on YouTube. This is Showing like the public is [ __ ] Like that's what they want. They want Alex Jones style black helicopter. That's what they want.

>> Don't you think, Ryan, that there may be actually, you know, the powers that be might might actually start some of these conspiracies? I wouldn't pass. Um, >> all they got to do is plant a seed because the public will run with it. I do think that the algorithm pumps the [ __ ] and suppresses anything Accurate. So, in a way, they gravitate to this [ __ ] because it's the only thing they get to see. >> But also, as well, I think there's another element to it when it comes to Candace. Like, this is

like jokes aside, the way she kind of made it and people think I'm joking about this, but it's actually true. Like, the way she made it into like a murder mystery and it's like you're trying to solve a problem. Like, you look at chicks, there's two type of Books they like. They like murder mystery and they love the romantic books, right? So, you basically got kind of all of that in one. Like, it's a lover gone. She was a honeypot. Really? You know, Kirk should have married C, you know, Kirk should have married Candace and

>> soap opera. >> Yeah. It's like it's like true crime. And they're like, "Oh, you're you're not gonna wait till next week." What what I Just found out, you know, stay tuned. >> It's a soap opera. >> Exactly. Break it into breaking it into genre. That's what we're doing here. >> Exactly. Dee, jump in. You got a question? >> Yeah. So I I agree that and and it's funny and I were talking I >> can you hear me? >> Yeah. Yeah. That was a >> Okay. Yes, I agree. So I agree that there's red herrings

100% in the Epstein Files and I think that's done intentionally. Um however, what I would say is and what kind of led me down this path is exactly today I did see CBS, right? you see BS the BS that's coming out of CBS um that they're kind of trying to go along that run that that ride of saying like maybe he's still alive and then all of a sudden I'm like okay this has to be there's something here there's something Here where I think that this is maybe exactly what Ryan was saying comparing it to

the 9/11 unfathomables right the making it kooky right where the reality is what I would say however is as follows. And this is a question that I have for Ryan. Do you think that maybe he has a kill switch? Like, if you kill me, this is what's coming out. This is who's going to release it. Well, obviously I'm not going to tell you who's going to release It, but don't you think he made a plan cuz he did see the death of Robert Maxwell? >> He'll switch to what? Oh, I'll send this to the media.

>> They just won't report videos, man. to and give them to who? >> I don't know. Put it online. >> Yeah, they just say like that's like the Hunter Biden. That was all online. The Chinese put it online and you know what they did? They just like that's that was Fake. Uh it's from Russia. There is no laptop. And it's like it's there. It's online. It's right in front of you. Him with his hookers and cocaine and everything. Every social media outlet purged it. If you mentioned it, you got banned. And nobody on TV would

talk about it. They had the debates and they're like 51 intelligence people agree with Joe Biden that that is a a hoax. It wasn't. It was real. It didn't matter. Epstein, They didn't kill him till they took his money. They made him first they beat his ass. He said, "My roommate like strangled me." Like he said, "I I didn't try to kill myself. My roommate did this." And they're like, "No, he didn't. You did that to yourself. We're going to put you on suicide watch. You're going to sign this 1953 trust. Then they took him

off suicide watch. And then when the moment he was off of it, they killed him. He doesn't have a dead man switch Because he wouldn't go anywhere. It's the entire state of Israel versus one dude who's in jail with no resources. He can't do anything. He can't communicate through his lawyers. Look who his lawyers are. They work for the state, too. They're like, "Put your money in this trust. Indyk and Khan are going to execute your will." He had Boris Nichol as number three, you know, like there's nowhere to go with the He can't do

anything. >> Wait, so you said the entire state of Israel against Jeffrey Epstein? >> They're not going to let him burn like a dead man switch to do what? Oh my god. All these people [ __ ] kids, too. >> I No, I totally I totally understand where you're going at with the >> Israel wants that compromise. That's how they manipulate all these people. Once you use it, you It's over. But what I'd say is there's a very big difference of watching Hunter Biden with Hookers and doing cocaine versus seeing literally all of our Congress.

>> No, you didn't get it like that. You're like, what could you do? Put it online? I'm like, all that was online and didn't matter and Biden got elected. >> No, no, I understand. But I'm saying Hunter Biden with a bunch of prostitutes and cocaine is very different than watching people hurt children. I don't even want to say the word. >> I don't think they really did that. Like he filmed himself [ __ ] kids and all those video like they have those. Our government has that in their possession and they don't release it. >>

You don't think that our Congress was touching children? Like our like the elites that were touching children? They don't need to go to him to do that. I mean, god damn, there were people butt [ __ ] in the Senate and photos of it and stuff. >> It didn't matter. >> What the [ __ ] is going on right now? >> What is that? >> Do you not remember that? They they filmed themselves. >> You sound like a co government loving [ __ ] I don't know what is. >> Yeah, right. Brian Dawson, man. Brian,

>> do you not remember this coming out? They took pictures of themselves having gay sex in the Senate room. You remember that? >> Yeah. Remember that? >> Yeah. Yeah. How can it's tricks, bro? They don't know politics. >> That doesn't mean that they didn't work through Epstein who was running. >> No, you're not. >> You don't you don't get it. Like remember Deborra Dean Palfrey DC Madame all these people have escorts and hookers. You don't have to go to Epstein to [ __ ] a prostitute. Like they're all Over DC right now to try to

get some children that he was incubating and some >> Not really. They have that too. Like >> Okay. So then then Ebstein was fake. This whole thing was You guys are >> You don't get it. So many of them [ __ ] kids that it's like mutual destruction. No one can tell on anyone because they're all doing it. But just so you know, Len, like I don't he's not saying that all of it. He's Saying that whenever people do run with the friends. >> Listen, I'm listening to what he's saying. He just called a bunch

of people [ __ ] idiots. I'm not I'm not I was >> If you're saying Epstein's still alive, you're [ __ ] idiot. >> Well, I >> that's your opinion, my friend. Look, I I would say that I entertained the idiocy because I I did see some Stuff that actually I think you would be compelled if you just see her evidence and look through it. I'll send it to you. I'll send it to you. But um >> 100% I will not. >> But um but yeah, no, I I I think so to your point, I

do agree that there's moment you say her evidence, I'm like, "Oh, her." Okay. Nope. Well, what I'll say is that she's always been an a top-notch researcher. I I give her a lot. >> It's like the all female space program. >> No. >> Oh my god. You should not be cover. Come on. >> Just learn your limits, man. You don't do analysis and research. That is not a female thing. >> That is actually definitely her thing. >> Yeah. Like >> she's great at it. Well, like, so again, I I feel you on the fringe. I

feel you on the fringe. >> I'm I'm not gonna argue with morons. Like, all I can do is make fun of you because it's like it's I have a rule about arguing with a donkey. If you argue with a donkey, the donkey wins. You're just going to sit there and go, hehaw, hehaw. Like, if you're too if you lack the capacity to understand what I'm going to say, then I'm just wasting my air. >> You're not saying anything but calling people names. You're really not. You're You're you're basically sitting here saying >> I said everything

first then I call them names because it's like look at a certain point it's like if someone's like I think it's Russia like you're a dumbass next like you just there certain things they're so [ __ ] Russia >> because you so what I'm saying is because you don't believe what someone says they're dumb asses that's why >> it's not because I don't believe it it's because it is dumb that's the problem like to say that that's a good example. So when people say it's Russia like because many of people are new to this whole

thing they only woke up about Israel in the last year or so two years or whatever it may be but many people have known about this known about this entire basically entire web for 10 15 years. So when you know that Israel was behind it, When you know that Israel that basically was in Epstein was a Mossad agent, then yeah, when someone says Russia, you know that's stupid because you know, you know the research, you know the information. >> And then you know why they're saying Russia as well is to hide the fact that Israel.

So I'll be honest with you, if someone said to me it's Russia, I would be like that is stupid. Clearly this guy either is really dumb or a propagandist because in reality it can't >> you know that they know it's not Russia. They're not arguing in good faith when they come out all at the same time. Nigel Farage, they all like, you know, Moscow's mentioned this many times. They all have the same catchphrases. They all have the same like the Telegraph, the New York Post, they all come out with the same rhetoric on Russia. They

don't really believe that. They know that that isn't true. They're saying it. It's Hazbara. >> And when you hear the Epstein still alive 4chan stuff, I'm like, these are not your own words. This was spoonfed to you. It's Alex Jones in the normal [ __ ] like relay crew that told you this story and you are repeating it. You did not think of this by yourself. >> Yeah. So like there is certain things that when you do the research, you know it's basically impossible. Russia I think I'm glad you brought up the Luna Russia thing

because that is a prime Example. So there's like a body of research that you know that it's going to be impossible. It could be X Y and Zed. in terms of his argument about the child um abuse or even the abuse of like human trafficking abuse of women like this is true they can do it in their own countries so for example let's take the guy leader of UAE the leader of Qatar they bring women to their countries they do basically traffic people to their countries they do all of the most Decrepit evil thing you

could think so the question mark becomes like why did they go to the island so there must be something more behind it but I so any I mean I don't understand the argument saying that people don't have access to these things outside of Epstein. There's Epstein. He's He was evil, but there's many other types of rings that >> that was not what I was saying. I was saying that Epstein is one of those I I Have a book on all of these tons and tons of stories from all over the country, all over the world

of people like Epstein that have been doing this for years and years and years. What I'm saying is I would never call someone an idiot for doing research and coming up with their own own theories ever. >> Oh, no. No. See, you're backing. I'm not calling people idiots for trying to do their own research. I'm calling someone an idiot if they think Epstein's still Alive. >> Well, they would have research. >> They cannot be like, I'm just asking questions, bro. It's like that's [ __ ] The people saying that are not asking questions. They are

dogmatically putting forward an assertion and saying he's still alive and rolling their eyes at people who say he was murdered. It's not a question mark on that sentence. They really believe this and think they know this because they're >> also the person that wouldn't take research from a woman because she's a woman, which sounds really stupid. >> That's tongue and cheek. But you show me the female researcher on anything and I'll go with it. >> I mean, Maize literally just told you about someone and you said you would never look at it. So that's not

tongue and cheek. That was from your mouth. I'm not going to look at research saying he's still alive because there's no [ __ ] research that there's no twisting of that that can make that true. It's just stupid. I already know what the conclusion is. I don't have to look at it. I don't have to look at flat earth research because it's [ __ ] [ __ ] Like, well, this one person is very at least got a geer. Like, no, man. For the record, >> there's certain stuff that you don't have to bother with.

You don't have to be like, we don't have to pretend to be Skeptical of everything. The earth is round and the best flat earth researcher in the world. I don't have to give them any attention. I don't have to give any attention to a man or a woman that says Epstein's still alive. You don't know how dumb that is. And it's like yet there's certain things you can just dismiss. It's not close-minded. It's called not being [ __ ] >> Um just to um put this out there, she she didn't say that it's conclusive Evidence

that he's alive. She's just saying that >> it doesn't matter. He's not alive. It doesn't matter. It's a waste of time. >> All righty then. >> He's dead. You have his corpse. >> Well, that's what they say. >> I don't know. I don't know. I'm not saying I I honestly am not the rolling my eyes of anything because I I admit that I honest to God, I don't know. I thought he was murdered, too. And I I Mean, that's still a huge possibility. I think um that's more likely than Like instead of saying before Chan's

stuff, >> give a counterpoint to all the stuff I said. How he was a liability, how they did two autopsies, how they concluded it was murder. Like the everything fits evidence. >> This other stuff is like for the counter to happen, you'd have to have >> a enormous amount of people in a conspiracy all going along with each Other with a lie and a fake body and a whole bunch of ridiculous things for the other side to be correct. Well, he was taken out of the hospital. Did you know he was taken to an external

hospital before he died? >> Whose body are they looking at? >> I mean, I don't have the answers to all those. >> Right. Right there. It's over. You don't have an explanation for the corpse. >> But that's what I'm saying. I mean, to Assume that it is his corpse is >> like I'm having a I don't talk to women rule like about politics at least. Like I don't You're giving me a headache. Like I don't need to I don't need you to. >> No. No. I'm not even trying. I'm not >> like it doesn't matter

to me whe what you think, you know? It doesn't matter. Like you can think he's alive. You can think he whatever. You think he went back to Mars. I don't care. Like I'm Done. I'm done with this. I'm done with this whole topic. I don't know why I do research. It doesn't matter. Like I put out a film on exactly what happened on 911. They don't care. They just want to be like it was just it is there's such an overlap with that too. Like the same people who think Epstein's still alive also are like

airplane deniers and stuff like that. It's all it's like >> I don't think it's overlap, Ryan. I actually think it's >> just the majority the majority of people are like this and the majority are basically now when because the major we basically we opened the floodgates to wake people up about Israel and now the majority of people are on our side and the result of the majority is you're not going to you're going to have a mixture of people. That's basically >> you know what's funny? I was like, I don't see this in Asia where

weed is illegal. I don't I've never met anybody Ever in Japan that can't name five countries, you know? You can find women in Miami like that quickly. Like, there's something wrong. There's something wrong with the West. It is I don't I it it's unfathomable. How can anybody be that ignorant about the world and be an adult? Like, how could you exist on Earth for that long and be that stupid? >> Bro, >> I'm just I'm just going to live in Asia And say, "Fuck off. I can have a nice life here. I don't know. I

have sympathy for Palestinians and Iraqis and Lebanese and all that. I'm moved uh by my own moral code to do something and say something, but what makes me not want to give a [ __ ] are all the morons. >> Well, Ryan, all I'd say is Miami is kind of not a great example. You know, Miami, it's a it's a unique place with the the unique type of people. >> It's not just Miami, though, is it? >> All right. I was trying I was trying to >> That's like anywhere in California would also work that

people they're like Dubai. >> That's hilarious. Um >> find a 30-year-old man that can't name three countries that isn't on drugs. Like you Nobody's that dumb, but there are people that dumb. >> Ryan, quick question to you in terms of um obviously we did that interview on Epstein. We talked quite a lot about the Israeli connection. Um I have been listening to a lot of people talk about it and there's no doubt in my mind that many people don't know the kind of like details of it or the depth of it uh compared to the

way you you do >> I don't think they can >> like I even if I told them I don't think they can remember that many names like I don't think people are smart enough to to say the truth they like lack the mental >> capacity >> they just can't do it >> let me just ask you a question on it in terms terms of uh Lex Wexner, you did a you did a movie on it, right? Which one was which one's your like best movie which goes into details about Lex Wexner? >> Well, I did

a film on the Kushners, not Wexner, but there he is in that film and there is some overlap, but Newck gets into the group that Wexner comes from. He's kind of the bridge between Rudolph Sunborn and Jeffrey Epstein. Wexer's 88 years old. So he was around back then when that got started. And like before the state of Israel existed, it was a bunch of terrorist groups and they coalesed in something called the Jewish Agency. Not to be confused with the Jewish Agency today. Same name, different group. But the JA uh organized Hagana, it's like Israeli

paramilitary that and they had a naval unit and all That. uh that becomes the state of Israel. They use Hagana and they use Erggon and Stern terrorist to smuggle weapons from the US and Canada and Czech Republic down to Palestine to Zionist factions uh so they could do the Nagba and murder Palestinians and run about 800,000 of them off their land. And this group needed organization to do all this gun running machine gun. They even took Charlie Winters even brought him planes. They were taking there's a huge surplus Of weapons after World War II that

was supposed to be decommissioned by the War Assets Administration. So you have a war end, you've got a giant market, black market for weapons that are sitting around. The war is over. What do you do with them? Hagen started gobbling them up. And there was a group formed inside of the United States, Hotel 14 as they had their own Cocoa Cabana, just like they had the same name of a place in Havana that got taken by Castro. That Didn't sit well with them. But they meet in Hotel 14, uh, just right above the casino. They're

working with Lansky. They're working with Anastasia. They're working with these mobsters. And they're running guns and money to Israel. And that group is called the Zoneborn Group. And that's where you get uh like Revan Daffy, Hell, Ted Cullik, uh Bengurian who ends up being prime minister later. Like these guys were there for the purpose of organizing Finance for organized crime to run guns, including highlyenriched uranium. And the film that talks about that the most is NUME. But I but it's like my interviews about NUMC. They go more in depth into that stuff. because I didn't

want to make a film just on the mob and everything. I wanted to make it primarily only on highly enriched uranium and stealing nuclear weapons and why they killed Kennedy, both Kennedys. But the regular gun Running continued the right out of the Jewish Agency Hagen, you get the United Jewish uh appeals with Rabbi Herbert Friedman, the very first president of the Wexner Foundation, and then Les Wexner and his Colton Abigail. They're all tied to this cabal of organized crime. The Wexers, the Bronman's, the Steinharts. Uh, and these are the guys that set up the mega

group, which is the mega donors. Abraham Fineberg did a lot of their, uh, moving money around. He Was a bagman. Nathan Bernstein, um, Rahu Nafy, Yehuda Azari, he had a whole bunch of nicknames. And they're openly working with like Sam Salone and uh Mickey Cohen and these Mod Dallas and Hank Greenspun, these hardcore mobsters, the the founders of Vegas. Basically, they ran money through Holocaust charities. Like, it's a complex history of that, you know, the Wexter Foundation That finances Epstein that he didn't create a network, he walked into a pre-existing one. That whole thing was

set up by the same terrorist groups that created the state of Israel. Rothschilds and the rest of it, Stoneborn, Rothschild, the Wils, like all these people. And then they did they ran New York. Like it wasn't Lucky Luciano and the crap that you're going to see on the mob on YouTube videos. Like they all that stuff. I mean, there's a real Characters and all, but they are not telling you the whole story at all. Uh, organized crime is not the the HBO Soprano stuff. Tony Soprano is based on Tony Solano. He was a real mobster

that worked with Donald Trump. Actually, he helped him get illegal immigrants to build Trump Tower. In fact, from Poland. But these like I don't know why I should bother explaining this stuff cuz they're just going to be like, "Ah, derp derp. He's still alive. A derp derp." It's like, okay, y'all, you ask a normie like, "How do you know he's Msade?" He's like, "Well, the before these files came out, they'd be like,"Well, Kasa said he was intelligence. Maxwell's dad was in the MSAD." Great, >> Ryan. >> That's not as quite a solid connection as what

I just laid out. Ar man say was an intelligence officer and said they Hired Epstein. That's as concrete evidence as you can possibly have. They never mention that. They're like wagosta aosta aosta a because that is the meme that went out all over the place because it's not very solid question on that Ryan I was going to ask you that what's your I remember you mentioning this about Aosta you thought that position was weak what was the weakness of it uh from the Aosta point that people make >> it's not even what he said and

it's just Like they and it leaves it open like look maybe it's CIA maybe it's MI6 it could be any intelligence agency you don't Oh, it's like why? You don't have to guess. We have people in Israeli intelligence admitting that Epstein worked there. Steve Hoffenberg said it. Arie said it. Then you have all the ties like Wex Les Wexter was like his sole client and Wexner and the Wexter Foundation which is seeding money to Israeli prime Ministers was set up by the Jewish agency out of Israel not Russia Israel. Then you look at Hud Barack

and Herszog and Omar and the other Audam. And Moshe Katzv and the list goes on and on and on. And you look at Epstein's LLC's. Where is he donating money? All Israel groups. Where is the Wexter Foundation donating money? All Israel groups. What's the Brothman doing with their Money? All Israel groups. as well as the Nexium sex cult and selling a house to Robert Miller who raped hundreds of high school girls. These perverts like it is a bunch of Jewish supremacists. They do get compromised on people, but they're not going around to Congress and getting

sexual blackmail to make them vote a certain way. They already have Congress from Apac. Bribes work just fine for that. What it is is you have a bunch of speculators, a bunch of hedges and that rope in political figures to manipulate markets so they can all profit off it. And they use sexual comprom. It's kind of an entry fee. Cuz when you're doing complex white collar crime, you need to be [ __ ] sure the person you're doing it with isn't going to flip on you. And so a way they can have mutual uh destruction

is kind of like the gang that says shoot this guy, prove You're not a cop. Like if you [ __ ] a kid, you're in the club. It's not about blackmail. It's like prove you're one of us. Yeah. To have it's kind of like to have some kind of It's like an initiation because they have access to themselves, isn't it? But this is like a form of initiation. Well, let's um >> all these rich guys get hookers. >> Exactly. And they all have access and they're able to bring all this access to Their own countries.

Um but uh yeah, let's uh bring in um Truth. Truth, you got a question? >> Oh, no. I was just listening to everything. I was listening to what uh Ryan was saying. He's a very good analyst. But I actually just wanted to defend all the retards because the other side is also full of retards. Like the ones that believe the passports of the 9/11 hijacker fell out and landed on the sidewalk. And I remember when 9/11 Happened, they all everybody believed that the caves in Afghanistan were full of like computers and technology and there were

people inside these caves in Afghanistan looking to take down the United States. you know, they believe things like Michelle Obama is the main >> truth. That's not the that's not the differentiation. So like that's the mainstream narrative. None of us believe in the mainstream narrative. Right. So for example, Ryan Since September the 11th was one of the few people speaking out against what actually happened in 9/11. I've been against the mainstream narrative from day zero. So that's not what he's saying. What he's saying is for those who don't believe the mainstream narrative, now there's two

branches. There's a branch, this is his view, there's a branch of people who basically are basically been in the game since the beginning and are like, you know, trying To be as accurate and rational as possible in order because what happens is when you go against it, the if you basically don't act in an irrational academic manner, you end up going into the too much of the cook side. Now, in too much in the cook side, what it is is the CIA did have specific operations intentionally to cause any real conspiracy theory to become extremely

kooky. And the reason was that people are like, "Oh my god, this is just too Crazy. Like, I'm not going to believe this major conspiracy theory." And so, that is always done to hide the truth. So, as an example, for um 911, let's take 911 as example. Some people believe some of my friends actually they believe not online but like one of my friends who was teach recently who I became friends with he was like oh bro you what you believe there was actually planes bro there was no planes and I was just laughing with

him but like if you don't Believe that there was no planes then you take away a key part of evidence which is one of the 911 hackers h it was in flight 85 I believe one of the specific hijackers their family was Msad and he was connected to Mossad and he was being financed by them. So what a kook conspiracy does is it actually takes you down a route where it actually hides the real conspiracy which was that Israel was behind 9/11 not the mainstream which is that it was uh you Know some it was

a random extremist attack. So that's basically the differentiation. It's not about the mainstream narrative like no one believes the mainstream narrative. We've been against the mainstream narrative. I know me and Ryan have slightly different opinions on things, but just as an example, Ryan, let's take Ryan because I think Ryan's getting the heat of this. So Ryan's been against the mainstream narrative from day zero. He was against It when everybody else was on the mainstream when everybody was literally following, you know, full full on in the mainstream narrative. Um, you know, and he did get deplatformed

and censored. So now everyone's speaking about it because people like him, people like myself took the risks to be able to open the door that everyone can go in and now everyone's able to speak about it. He did get cancelled over it. He did lose a lot for it. Um, and so my point About this is he's not with the mainstream position. He just gets overly frustrated when people have something of a cook conspiracy because what happens is first of all it hides the truth. Second of all, it basically destroys real tangible information. And third

of all, it becomes like really kooky in the sense of to hide real facts. So those are like the multiple factors why he's against the extreme cook nature of asking the real question. So, I guess Your defense truth needs to be on that major like the Alex Jones style version of 911 or something and then tell us what's great about what he said and then we can have a conversation. >> What's the kookiness nature of the fact that the Epstein spirals are real? They're it's out. It's real. >> That's not kookiness. The Epstein files being

real is something Ryan Dawson said before you even probably knew what Epstein was or before. >> You're probably right. I was probably only 10. But my point is is that anymore you can't make it look kooky because it came out. It's it's >> you can make a cookie and I'll explain to you how. So there's two quite a few ways you can make a cookie. So the first thing is and when I say that I don't say that insult he knew about about the nine epste files before even me like he knew about it. He's

I would say like he's knows more about the Epstein file than Even me. Um and same with 911. So this isn't an insult on anyone and he was talking about it before even people were willing to. I know in like many of the spaces now everyone frequents people weren't it was like you were banned if you even mentioned 911. I was nearly banned on X for having a space on 911 before October the 7th and it was with Ryan Dawson before and at that time no one was afra like I didn't even I didn't see

anyone here on those spaces because Everyone was too afraid they were afraid of losing their livelihood. They either were unaware all that kind of stuff. So that's not the cookiness. So within the Epstein files, an example of the kookiness conspiracy according to him, well, one of the example of the kookiness conspiracy theory could be um that Epstein, I don't know, like ate children or something. So that would be like something that is unlikely that it happened and it hides other facts. Or it Could be that this guy was at the top of this of this.

Or another one people say is it wasn't Israel, it was Russia. Or another one people say is, "Oh, it wasn't Israel. It's the deep state. It's this. It's it's it's the US deep state." And all this. So those are just some examples where people misdirect from real >> Sully. Didn't you say he's alive? You posted that he was alive. >> What do you mean? >> He posted a thing of the the Fortnite. >> Yeah. He said he was playing he was playing Fortnite or Rocket Ball or whatever it is. >> No, what that was was

news being posted on my page. To be honest, that was probably not me. But let me check which one you mean. It's not kooky to believe that there's Satanists out there that do the things that Satanists do. It's not that's not a cookie thing at all. >> Why all snitching? You know what I'm saying? Snitches get stitches. >> No. What do you mean? What do you mean about the fitness, >> bro? >> You just made it sound like it was funny. >> He holds me accountable all the time. I'm just holding >> What? Say again.

>> I said you hold me accountable. Go ahead, Luke. >> No, no, no. Go ahead. I'm saying something different. Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. He was solving you. I'm the one that interrupted. Go ahead. >> All I said was Satanism and people doing ritualistic things, sacrificing children. That is an actual real thing. And if you all if anybody in this crowd believes that any of these groups like Epstein and whatever else is going on in the world that we don't know about or that we do know about aren't doing this For for sacrificial reasons,

that is more of a conspiracy. That's actually more ignorant than I would say someone that is. So, look, I did a video on the Satanism and I do believe that there is a possibility that this happened, but I'm educated enough to know that what I'm saying is speculation. Like, I would be like, "Yes, complete speculation. I'm basing it on information that like I'm basing on like so you can look at my video on it. You can see how I connect All the points." But actually, if someone came to me and said, "Sulan, is it cookie

to believe the opposite? I mean, no, actually what I'm saying doesn't have strong evidence. It's just complete speculation. And that's what I think that's what >> But that's why you're also not sitting here in the calling people idiots that believe. >> No, but I'm saying my position is complete speculation. I'm saying if Someone came to me and said, "Debate me" and said, "Guess what, Sulan, let's debate whether they did sacrifices. I'll be like, bro, I don't want to debate that." I'm just saying it's possible. Like obviously >> it's all speculation. You can't even There's not

even any arrest. there's not any arrest because there's no actual evidence that there has been any trafficking even though we can speculate that there is no but I don't agree that It's all speculation and this is again the problem that if you start saying everything speculation we actually have a lot of >> no I what I am saying if you want to be technical about it there are people that are not getting arrested for the sake of it not for actually being >> no but you just said it's all but you just said it's all

speculation I'm saying it's not all speculation there is things that we know as a matter of fact. For example, we know as a matter of fact that Lex Wexner financed and funded Epstein. That's a fact. There's certain things that we know as a fact. So that one, if someone says, "Oh, no, he didn't." Be like, "Yes, no, this is a fact." I don't need arrest to know that he funded him. I don't need arrest to know that basically the exIsraeli Mossad guy said that he that Epstein is part of MSAD. So there's certain things that

we know which isn't speculation. That is Also a speculation as well because just like the guard spec like said that he had witnessed Epstein leaving with a military guy. That's I mean you're sitting here saying that speculation in the same way that the ex MSAD guy is saying no but who's the god? >> I don't know his name exactly. I'm just trying to are you even though it's woman it's woman research. I'm just letting you Know it's woman research and you know I'm not gonna research. It's nice. It's nice that these people have woken up

now. It's really good. Like I'm >> Go ahead. I was going to say it's in the Epstein files and there was something that was corroborated in the Epstein files about this guy when the night that it happened he saw Epstein taken out of there alive in a wheelchair, you know, and and he was um escorted out and he Went to a different hospital um external to there and then all of a sudden he ended up dead. So that when you look at her what she like not only >> no but let me like I need

to see who it is like >> has he come out has he come out and said it himself verbally has he come and said it where who is this guy is it like a random guard or who is it >> yeah so they actually found that it was his IP address it was a guard it was a Guard at the prison um and the the records corroborate that he was working that night the records corroborate that it was his IP that left that message on 4chan, it all it al all was corroborated on on the

Epstein files. So, um with with the uh when they had they had subpoenaed 4chan um for that info for I guess the data and the IPS and whatever and that's what they found out that it actually was a guard that worked at the prison. So, I Mean, you know, he could get all salty all he wants to. You know, I know he's got some butt hurt with Whitney Webb and [ __ ] and women, but it is what it is. >> I just do think I'm just going to defend Ryan because listen no like I

behaved myself. I did it for you. >> No, no. I mean, it's easy saying that, but look, at the end of the day, like you're all chilling on spaces where people were denying even the Gaza Genocide. You're all like chilling with other people on other spaces. Like, you're attacking people who open the door. So everyone on this space feels comfortable. Even >> he was attacking people that had other theories that he didn't believe in. That was not people attacking him. He called everybody idiots. Come on. >> Yeah, that's his view. His view is he didn't

call you specifically an idiot. >> So nobody was attacking him. All I came Up to say was that that is that it's completely like to be the person to be the person that's calling people idiots. You sound like an idiot. >> You said his position is the Fed position when his position is isn't the Fed position. I would say you guys who tried to make it for all these years have been saying and I don't mean you specifically because I don't even know like what your position was but people generally who always try to not

say it Was Israel or were afraid to mention them or even now don't mention them or it takes you know it may not be Israeli maybe the deep state and all that I would say those are the fed positions I would say those of us who literally was calling out Israel from day zero is the actual non fed position so he doesn't have the fed position >> so I never used the word Fed position all I said was that he sound very suspicious. >> No, you didn't. You said either the Fed or government position is

recorded. We can all >> I said he sounds like someone who believes in the government and probably >> Yeah. So, he doesn't believe in the government. >> That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah. So, he doesn't believe in the government. He believes in the opposite of the government. >> I'm sure that's what he says, but I also He also came up here calling people. >> It's his position is well documented and it was done well before any like I'd like to see if you ever posted about this before October 7th or anything like that. I doubt

you did because I know like when we did it before October. >> You're right. My whole life isn't about accusing Jews of anything to be honest. >> Oh, so now us accusing Jews. This is what I mean. This is it. You have to say your position is the Fed position where Now you're making it look like I'm >> literally saying that is not my whole life. I have like stuff going on. So I'm not actually doing that. >> So listen, it's not about Jews. This is this is actual Zionist government propaganda to make it look

like we're attacking Jews. We're not attacking Jews. We're looking at what happened in September. It wasn't Jews. You're basically making it your position. the government opposition. You're basically Doing Zionist propaganda. You're trying to say we're attacking Jews when we're not even I didn't >> I didn't say you did anything at all. So, >> no, you No, no, but you said you No, but what you said is when people question >> I said my goal is not to do that. I didn't >> But you said my goal isn't to attack the Jews, thus insinuating inferring what

anyone is doing. >> If you pay attention to what you just said, you said I probably didn't know anything that was going on in October 7th before it happened. And I said October doesn't have to do with my job was not to figure. Okay. >> October 7th wasn't about Jews. That's a that's a Zionist propaganda. It's about Jewsians. Yes. >> It's not it's not Jews. We Palestinians. It's about the state of Israel. Maybe You maybe hang around with other people's faces or whatever. But for us, it's not about the Jews. I said it's when they

look at the Palestinians, their fight isn't against Jews. The fight is against Zionism. It's against the state of Israel who have been oppressing them for a very long time. So this is an example where your position is the position. >> No. Okay. Okay. Let me let me backtrack real Quick. In no shape or form am I trying to offend any Palestinian or anything going on over there. I did I probably didn't know very much if not anything at all before October 7th. And I'm glad I do know and I'm glad I'm I am aware of

what's going on. However, I'm I can call someone out for for uh bunching up a whole bunch of people who are actually whether or not they knew what was going on with Epstein until now and now they're doing their own research into Discovering certain things. I would never call them idiots just because I knew more about it before they did. That's it's just it's that's no but but l I would say calling someone an idiot is less worse than saying someone's got the government position when their whole life and they've lost money and sacrificed so

much being against the government position and actually I just the reason I said that to you L is cuz I was trying to Demonstrate to you that actually you had the government position you didn't realize it so I would say throwing >> I didn't you can you can try to make it seem like I did just because you keep saying it but that's not true I never Uh, nor did I >> No, your position is because you're trying to make it look like it was Palestinians against Jews. You're trying to say >> It sounded suspicious

to me and I'm Going to make this clear. When I came up, it sounded suspicious that he was calling people idiots for doing the same kind of research that he's been doing on the Epstein situation for as long as he's been doing it. So, whatever you want to try to make, >> that you randomly found out about the Israel Palestine situation. And now, >> you can do that if you want. I'm not going to sit here and call you an idiot for it. >> And now, yeah. And I didn't call you an And I didn't

call you an idiot, but you called ransom at worse, which was that his position was the >> No, I said he was calling everybody an idiot. And that's No, but you said his position was the government position. And I'm trying to explain to you. >> No, I didn't. I said you sound like >> I want everyone to listen back to the recording. You 100% said that. >> You didn't say the government. What did You call? What did you say then? >> I said, "Oh, do you trust the government?" And you probably also trusted co because

he's literally sitting here calling people idiots for >> Yeah. So he didn't Again, this is the problem. Trusting the government. care. I don't really care about him. That's I don't care about you. You don't care enough that you've been basically talking for this last 20, 30 minutes all about it. What are you talking about? You don't care. You literally came on the space and have been pushing back. You clearly care. Why are you trying to do this propaganda about not caring? Of course you care. I was going to move on. You're the one who continue

talking and speaking about, hey, why you being ridiculous? First thing. The second thing is what what I keep mentioning is when you say that he's following the government position, it just demonstrates you don't know what the Government position is. And that's why I'm trying to educate you. The government position is your position which is that they want to make it look like it's Palestinians against Jews. And I'm saying that it's not Palestinians against Jews. His position that Epstein was part of this network isn't the government position. The government position is different to his. Now, he

disagrees with the other position. That's fine. But his position isn't the Government position, nor is he saying what the government says or nor is he believing in CO on the things that you claimed. >> What I said was he sounded like it. I didn't know his position. You understand what I'm saying? Just like you keep accusing me of having a certain position. When I said when I started speaking, I said you sound like it. So that's not me accusing him of having a position. I said you sound like this Person based off of calling people

ignorant. >> Yeah, that's I I do get it right. First of all, and it's sounding like it's just a kind of sly and snidy way of trying to hide the fact that what you know what you're trying to say. The first thing. The second thing is what you're not understanding is and this is why is again a lack of knowledge. What I keep explaining to you is that what the Government wants is what the government wants to make it look like is that the resistance in Palestine have a hatred or an enmity or a disagreement

against the Jews. And I'm saying that that's not the case. The issue is not about the Jews. The issue is against the state of Israel. Now, I don't think you did it intentionally, but I'm just trying to explain to you that with knowingly or unknowingly, you were relaying the government position, the Zionist Propaganda, and I'm trying to explain to you that >> I see what you're saying. >> So, that and and so what I'm trying to say is that's why we need to like what I'm trying to say is when you say someone's got the

government position or someone sounds like it, like as you said, you said you didn't know his position. So, it's always better to listen to it. Anyway, I feel like I'm flipping a defender right so hard. I'm Like, what the hell? I don't even have the same view as him on on some issues, but I don't know. I just have to defend like my friends and I do see him as a friend. So, it's just it is what it is. Anyway, let's move on cuz >> Okay, I'll be top liver then. That's fine. >> Uh, with

all due resp I think I'm going to get attacked, but let's see. With all due respect, L is just Oh, good one. L's getting attacked. Let me read this. With All This is a super chat as well, Len. I'm getting paid for this. With all due respect, Len is just in her feelings about he called people idiots. Guess what, Len? No one gives a [ __ ] People are idiots. Okay, good. super chat. Um, okay. Let's go to >> Hey everybody. Um, that little row woke me up from my nap. And what I will say,

Sedat, firstly, I disavow your comment. Sedat's chatting on YouTube saying women should be making sandwiches in the Kitchen. We're not in the kitchen. We're here on the chat. And I agree with the chicks. I'm open to all possibilities on the Epstein whereabouts. That's what I will say. I haven't looked into anything, but they tell us and the autopsies were done. They told us I don't believe anything about anybody anymore. Open to possibilities. Chicks United. >> I see why she's your co-host, Solie. She saves the space every time. No, I'm just >> Oh my god. Look

what she said. She said, "I haven't read anything. I haven't seen anything. It's all about the feels." Oh my god. >> Bring some academia to this conversation. Save. >> Who put me in the Who put me in the middle of these two? Always. I'm always stuck in the middle. >> Oh my god. Simon, tell us about maths and numbers and finances. But before you do, Dr. Michael, bring some logic to it. >> Yeah. I mean, look what we have here. >> 60% chance. >> There's a couple things going on here in that went on in

the room. One of them I think look we know that uh that Ryan has been at this for a long time and has put a tremendous amount of research into this and there's just and there's just no um getting a general acknowledgement because of so many forces of the first of all the states uh propaganda and then I think also they seed the environment With alternate conspiracy theories because after all we are talking about a conspiracy, but what what happens is then there's different layers of conspiracy that get mixed in. And now we're not sure

what's the con, you know, what's the conspiracy and what is the you know, what is this kind of uh meta conspiracy that's constructed around it or other things. So it gets into uh uh a problem of historioggraphy and and forensics. You Know, it's about uh what what are going to be the standards for forensic evidence and uh how do we adjudicate it? Um you know, you know, and I also noted there was a kind of thing going on obviously about the gender divide so to speak. There was a suggestion that the the women are like

they're just interested in different >> Don't say don't say Dr. Michael please. >> They're just interested in a different genre. Uh and like so they like more um Romance and more fantastical tales. And this this is what was being suggested. I I mean I I it's hilarious but it's pretty um dismissive. I I don't think it's true. uh you know that there's this uh incapacity like of women to do good research. This is not this is not true. My favorite novelist of all time is George Elliot who was actually a woman and uh she wrote

I think the best novel written in English which is Middle March. Uh so yeah I mean look I I think That's a a slippery slope that's I think was what the conflict was this sort of dismissal on the basis of some inherent genetic u liability that this is really you know what I think the basic bottom line was the the divide here and I think it took it took people took offense and I think uh we're giving Ryan all his due because he is a a brilliant guy very brilliant guy I I wanted to to

I wanted to be his uh since he's having failing vision I wanted to be his type typist in Effect I would take down his his language and put it into a book form because it deserves to be part of the um you know the bibliography of this of this time and that's the only way it's going to make it there it's not going to be through podcast or Tucker or any of that ultimately there is a kind of logoentrism here at I there's always going to be the need to see it written down and that's

going to be the real the real telltale. So anyway, I just wanted To weigh in and say, you know, it was a little tense there and uh I don't I don't like it that way. I thought that there's there's obviously the the the mainstream narrative that nobody here buys, but then there's there's a divide within the conspiracy the theory realm really. I mean because they are both conspiracy theories. We should say that. All right, that's it. >> Appreciate that, Dr. Dr. Michael. Bro, listen my G. Don't be singing for these Chicks. >> You got like

50 follows after that. >> Don't. Exactly. All chicks though. >> Ladies, man. I can't help it, >> bro. Come on, man. Like, come on, Dr. Michael. Ain't nobody want no singing for no chicks. And listen, I ain't going to s for no chicks. And also, I was looking at my YouTube stats and it's like 90% male. So, I don't even give a damn about these chicks. They're flipping crazy. I'm telling you, these Chicks are crazy. Don't listen to to Dr. Michael. He's just singing for them. Uh because he wants to be a nice guy. And

guess what? He's a professor. >> What kind of gay incel listeners do you have? >> The best listeners. Why are you attacking my listeners for now? >> I'm sorry. I'm just saying. Are you under the impression they don't like women? Like, what what are you talking about? Well, if they're my followers, they know the reality. They know. >> I was trying. >> They're sexist. >> I tried to be impartial. I wasn't trying to be >> Oh my god. Dr. Michael, just cuz you're a professor at a university in some liberal institute, you've been affect affected

by the by by them in a small manner. Jokes. Jokes. I like Dr. Michael. Love him. Great guy. Okay. Um And do uh and I I do promote his as a pack all the time. I love this guy. Um so I was even doing it the other day. I was in a meeting and I was like, "Oh, bros, have you heard of Azipac?" And they were like, "Oh, no. We haven't heard of it." I like, "Gee, sort your lives out." So, anyway, but come on now. I don't know, bro. I can't be flipping promoting a

chick uh a guy who's singing for chicks. Like, what's that all about? It's right-wing politics. Get these Chicks in kitchen. Why is it >> Why is Len speaking so much? This is a problem. This is a society we've created. Like this. And she's flipping French, which makes it worse. No wonder this society is completely destroyed. I'm not bra >> and and and flipping actually. Are you even a woman? >> That's a good question. >> Exactly. Exactly. Like you could be Another Bridget Macron. >> I'm actually Nick Fuentes. I'm a man. >> Oh man. Is he

>> He's a G. He's He's the G. Okay, let's go to Joah. >> The The chat is saying Joah came up and derailed the conversation and started the fight. No, he didn't. >> Spoken yet. >> Why are you talking to you? >> That's what the chat said. >> Yeah. Although I'm not happy that Beatrice woke up from dreaming of Pierce Morgan. Um I I am on her side here, believe it or not. >> What? Bro, >> don't be on her side, bro. >> Listen, bro. Ryan is like your anti-hero to your space because you'll look

at any evidence, right? And you'll question it. The I love Ryan, but if you say, "Hey, let me show you that. Let me show you that there's a photo of him being buried And he doesn't have a tattoo in his left arm, which he used to have a tattoo, or that his nose is different, or that he was on a Fortnite account." I don't I don't agree. I don't think he was alive. But the fact is saying like I'm not going to look at the evidence and all you guys are idiots. That's the opposite of

what you do. Simon, you're like, "Show me. Tell me what is the evidence. Let me see it." >> I know. Let me get Listen, I agree with You, Joe. But listen, one >> So you defend the chicks then. >> No, no, I don't agree with you. Listen, I don't >> It's just cuz you said it. It made a lot more sense that joke. But the thing is um No, it's not that. It's um it's the fact that look, there's two parts to it. I know Ryan, he's like he he is a good guy. you can't

he is a bit frustrated at the moment based on like some of the things that are happening and um also I Know how he is like you have to understand he's like he's like all these chicks were nagging and like there was like three chicks like and he was like oh and he was losing it and and Lun was like and then M like and then Dee was like and then he was like oh all these chicks like I know I know how his mind thinks and I was like trying to jump in to defend

him because I knew I I knew he would be so upset >> because he needed honestly I jumped in To defend him before you did Sully I I'm just telling you what I'm just telling you what happened. This is I'm not it's not a trial, right? So then what I know how his mind thinks. So that's the first thing. The second thing is I think he would look at the evidence. I think he was just getting a bit frustrated. Um and then what's the other thing? And I don't got to defend my boys in it.

Like look, I will defend my friends irrespective of the Situation. >> You got a A++ plus for that. You know what I'm saying? It's going down in the books that you got a A++ for that. I wasn't offended. I mean, I do think people lose the argument when they have to result to insults instead of intellect because now it's like, "Oh, you're a woman." That's what Mango does. Oh, Moz, I use both. >> Huh? >> You do not. >> No, you got to use both. Trust me. Like, if I'm in a debate sometimes I'll use

it to throw the person off. Like, it depends on the situation. I won't use it at chicks because I won't use it in this space because I got to be tactical. Like if I said to little Lun, if I like said, "Oh, guess what Lun, you're a retard." That all these simps would have started crying. >> You would have sounded ignorant. You They wouldn't have what anyone said. >> I would have I wouldn't have sounded in. I'm telling you what would have happened. I'm a I'm calculating Ryan's not. I would have thought if I call

her that. The chats could the all the listeners are simps like 99% of them. They be, "Oh my god, how did you say this about Len? Oh, she's like a French woman and you hurt her feelings." And then the chat would have been like, "Oh, l oh l she's she's a woman and you're Hurting her feelings." And then Miz would have been like, "Oh, yeah. Why are you saying that about?" And then there'd be like 10 chicks like screaming at you. And I thought, "Is it even worth saying that our word? There's not going to

be no benefit." But whereas if I'm in a debate with some posh guy and I'm like, "Bro, you're a retard." And he's like, "Oh, oh ly." And he loses his mind and he gets confused. So it depends on the situation. >> More important. >> I'm really glad I'm really really sad that I missed this because I think it seems like I missed a lot. But I'm just saying I missed this. >> DD, you are lucky you missed it. >> You're not on the comedy circuit. You're the most You're the most hilarious guy on the internet.

>> Oh my god, Dr. Michael. Now you're saying I'm a fool. What is wrong? >> I don't know. I said you're the most >> He said he called you a comedian. He called you a comedian. >> As well as as an analyst. I can You can do both. >> Yeah. I'm better than Dave Smith, guys. Dr. Michael, put me in the Libertarian Party. I'll win. >> You're better than Dave Smith. I'm sorry. Better than Dave Smith. >> See that? See that? And guess what? One of my friends is wants to be the head of I

can't Oh, damn. I can't tell you Private. >> Look how easy you'll start promoting ASPC again. Look, he just needs to confident you want in your back. >> Joy, you know that's my weak spot. Everyone in the space knows that's my weak spot. Like as soon as you praise me, I'm like, "Okay, cool." I like, "Listen, it's fine." Like Lynette, she's like being so annoying and then she p Oh [ __ ] she p me. Okay, that's fine. Now she's >> I'm just telling you what I think. This is not to uh to butter. >>

I know. I really think you're levelheaded. Exactly. >> Cuz I didn't see where you were going with the whole I'm using the fed thing and then when you said when you start putting that perspective, I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] I see what you're saying. I didn't mean you." Yeah. So yes, you're very levelhead and I appreciate it. Oh my god, that's worked on me. Now I was Going to block. I was going to unfollow her. Now I'm not going to un Oh, bro. I tell you, it always worked on me. >> You could never.

>> I was I was like, wait, this account's got like two followers. Why am I following it? Unless it's not simp for me. So sack that. But now, okay, you got you kept your follow. Okay, let's bring the space back to professionalism. Beatrix, what? You literally derailed the space. I don't know like what Happened, right? >> Yeah, Jonah the the YouTube chat saying that. Oh god, you know what? Joe's come and derailed it again. Why did he come out of the tunnel? >> He brought it calmly. He brought calm to the situation. >> Smith, >>

they should be thanking me. I gave them a genius trade yesterday and probably no one listened. >> No, I'm waiting for it to go down to 50. Jo, >> but it went up to 70. >> I know, Jo. But I'm waiting cuz what if the attack cuz last time, right? >> Yeah. I literally thought, let me put I think it was I spoke to you and you were like, >> "It could it could go down to 50 if there's an attack." That's true. >> Wait, what are you all talking about? Silver or something? What are

you talking about? >> Bitcoin. Bitcoin. >> Oh, >> Bitcoin. These guys are like crypto scammers. Not no not uh not not Jo. >> What's What's Bitcoin? >> Timmy G's favorite asset who I think is a >> I hate that [ __ ] He's a [ __ ] [ __ ] Sorry. Well, on another level, I have to I have to announce this to everybody. I found Solomon's alt YouTube channel. He is Actually a hilarious he cooks these desserts and he gives hilarious commentary and I just wanted to say that I I found it. I found

it in the nest. >> I don't even know how to cook. Like I'll give you an example. There's a lit literal coffee machine in this office and I'm like [ __ ] Like I don't have to make coffee. So I have to go downstairs and get some. So it don't work like that. I don't do that. But I have got a YouTube channel. The tweet is in the Nest. And guess what? Oh, guys, guess what? So, I interviewed Simon, Simon Dixon, the co-host of the space, and we talked about Bitcoin. And guess what happened? We

caused drama. Like, imagine getting Simon into drama. It's almost impossible. But Simon is now involved in extreme crypto drama. There's war going on similar to this where it's the conspiracy theorists against the conspiracy theorists. This is the Bitcoiner Anti-zio bitcoiners against the anti bitcoiners. We created a world war. >> So what what was the what's the disagreement? >> Well, obviously I I actually don't know what the specifics of it is. >> Yeah, you got me you got me right in [ __ ] Um, actually I do want to I do want >> I got you

what? >> Yeah, you you created a short that like is like Oh man. Okay. Um, >> yes, Simon causing drama for you. Western Go ahead, explain yourself before you go. Super Dudy has made a propaganda super chat saying tricks rule, boys drool. Okay, you may be talking about Dr. Michael there, but go ahead, continue. I just want to say Simon, I saw your um live today on YouTube and you played that interview that Sulaman did with you on your live again and somebody said cuz that's the second time I was listening To it and I

was listen because there was a lot of information there right guys if you haven't if you haven't actually watched it do go and watch it it's in the nest m you definitely have to watch it but somebody said in that um that it's their second time watching it and this time they took a pen and paper to note some things down and I thought, "God damn, I wish I'd done that because I will go back and watch it again. It was really good." So, thank you to both Of you for doing that, but I didn't

realize there was drama as a result of it. So, maybe you can. >> Yes, Simon is causing drama in the Bitcoin world and it happened in my interview over him cuz I got the skills, bro. I know how to cause drama. I know how to do it. Now, I got the content. Now, there's going to be a debate next. See what I mean, Lun? You don't know what You don't know what I'm all about. Learn from it. Go ahead, Simon. >> Wait, what? explain how you attacked this innocent civilian. >> No, look, I I tell

you one thing is you you got to get I it was a big lesson for me. You got to get your language very specific like because when you're dealing with Jeffrey Epstein and you're dealing with like people, you know, this this is it was a big lesson to me cuz how you describe something and sometimes my language Might describe something in a way where it can be interpreted very differently. And you got to be ultra careful with this stuff because it really is people's reputations. And so I told my experience of um Amir Taki who

was an early Bitcoiner. He invited me to speak at the first Bitcoin conference. And um the words that I use if I could have done it slightly differently I would have done it differently um and Just been very very factual. But um sometimes you say things that kind of frame things. So look, Amir when when I met him, it's like the public record that you can see that he he was used by traditional media in order to try and discredit Bitcoin because he he was always using drugs at the time and the media wanted to

associate Bitcoin with drug usage. And so he was in a squat. Um and uh he was involved in the community and um you Know uh I think like the way that I worded it was kind of a bit judgmental on somebody that you know has has a or or in the past or I don't know today you know was involved in drugs and that and that is just like factually accurate. Um but you use the wrong type of word and it can be interpreted in a different way. Um and so that was the first that

was the first thing. Um the second thing is I highlighted the fact that air taki was contacted by Jeffrey Epstein which Is factually accurate. Uh and then he posted a response to it in his um on his uh ex and his Twitter. um and the he he claimed that he didn't receive any funding and after um his co-founder or or business partner met with Jeffrey Epstein, they killed the deal. Um I got that bit wrong because I I framed when when I when I saw his uh tweet, I thought that he confirmed that they did

receive funding And they didn't. And so I got to be ultra ultra careful with that because I don't know what's true. I just know what I remember and I know what he said. And then I uh he said he didn't receive any funding. Um and so that was slightly um inaccurate based upon what he said. Now I'm not endorsing it. I don't know whether it's true. I don't know whether it's not true. I was just trying to say what he said on his ex. And most people won't check that on X. And so, you know,

We got to be really, really careful here because the difference between someone meeting with Jeffrey Epstein and saying that they didn't receive any funding and then people hearing or me saying that they did receive funding, it is a major major thing. And so I I made sure on my live today that I put that record straight. But there's a part of it where, you know, the damage is already done because we know how these things work. like most people are never going To check, they're never going to return, they'll just take that headline. So there's

a massive responsibility here. And then there was another thing that I said which just came across um the opposite of how I would have wanted it to have come across and that is that um there was a post um well two things. There was a post on the Bitcoin talk forum which is where everyone would talk about Bitcoin in the Early days and it is it is true that he was stating that you could buy women for Bitcoin and he just said that it was a joke and I kind of took it literally. And so

I'm not making a judgment on whether it was a joke, whether it was real. I don't know. But but the fact is that that is accurate that there was a public post on the Bitcoin forum confirmed by Ayataki that he was advertising that you could buy women and and one of them was 16 um And you could buy it for Bitcoin. And so I reported that. But in combination with that plus stating that you received some funding from Jeffrey Epstein, you know, I don't know what's true. I just I'm just we just got to be

reporting things accurately. Um and then there was one more thing which is that he did actually um he he he he was he was in the UK and he decided that he wanted to go and fight ISIS on the front line in Syria. Um, and then when he came back from fighting ISIS, he claimed and stated that, you know, he knew like a hundred people that died and it was a very traumatizing experience for him and it was a very dangerous thing and this was a big this was a big thing. I mean, fighting ISIS

in Syria. Um, and so it came across like I was saying that's a bad thing, but actually anybody that's willing to go and fight ISIS in Syria, >> Well, how do we know Sam on that? How do We know he fought ISIS? Like in a sense of how do we like genuine question cuz I I don't know this guy other than a few people got involved and they want want us to have the conversation on YouTube. Uh but the how do we how do we know he and I can ask him this as well when

he comes but just to you. How do we know he fought ISIS and he didn't fight with ISIS? Like what who did he join to fight ISIS? Well, he was was he part of Bashar's army? Like how did he fight ISIS? Yeah, I mean we we just only know what was covered in the press and what he said. Um and I know that he was arrested when he came back to the UK. Um and I know that he also when he was in Syria, he contacted somebody that I know and asked for, look, I'm I'm

scared for my life. Uh can you send me some Bitcoin to come back? And and he didn't want to do it because he didn't want to be connected with anything. and you know and and you know all of this crazy Stuff. So we don't know anything other than what was covered in the media and what he said. And I think I think it's very important that we give him the stage in order to to for you to ask him that question because all I know is what he said, what was in the media and what

was reported. Um but you're right, we we don't know. Um, and uh, you know, for me it's it's good if you're if you're fighting ISIS, Um, that's a good thing. But as as Sulan said, what what do we know to be the truth? But the the reality is is that you put a bunch of stuff together and you know I just remember the guy that invited me to speak at the first Bitcoin conference and and I tried to accur accurately represent but I'm just going to be a bit more careful because sometimes I can add

a bit of opinion and narrative on top of it. And when you're dealing with real people and real People's lives, I just think we need to be a little bit careful. you know, there's one thing talking about Donald Trump, but there's another thing like talking about, you know, people that aren't in the political sphere. And so, all of that is true. And um I you know I don't want to have private calls to figure out what's true or what's not true because the these are serious these are serious things and I don't want to be

put in Some kind of trap or something where I'm having you know this is just it's a it's one big scop and one big headfark. Right. Um but I'm just trying to be accurate trying to trying to help people understand um the truth. But when you're on when you're on a YouTube interview, all I'm saying is just we we need to be a bit cognizant that just because somebody is in the Epstein list and there's these things here, uh we are talking about things, you Know, the whole me too movement like you can ruin somebody's

life a and maybe some people's lives need to be ruined, but it's a bit of a it's a bit of a you know what I'm saying? It's a bit it's a bit of a responsibility that we all need to take on and we we just have to try and be accurate and it was a bit of a lesson for me cuz you know he contacted me. He's very upset. Um we're going to bring him on the stage. He can say what he wants to say. Um and at the end of the day I don't know

whether he's a piece of [ __ ] or not. I don't know that. Um I just know what happened. But there are consequences to our words and that's all I wanted to say. Like >> get to the bottom of it. We're going to get him on his face. We're gonna or or the YouTube show because he might want to do it in the same venue that we did the interview. Um me and you and then we'll uh we'll ask him some questions And I'll ask him some questions to figure out what the situation is. Um

>> um can I just ask Simon a question? So Simon um I I I listened to your interview with Sulan, right? And many many times you said, "Okay, I'm going from memory here, so it may not be 100% accurate. Um, I have to be careful with my wording here." Um, and so you did take those cautions. So I I need to now I'm looking forward to this interview that you and Sulman are going to do, Bringing him on um to see what his points of contention were cuz I I do and I'm not joking. When

I heard it today for the second time, I thought, "Oh my god, Simon's being so good. I'm cautious." every every third sentence is okay this is going from memory so you know I'm I'm paraphrasing here and you know there were lots of these things so what was the ultimate fallout as a result of that interview and was it today when you played it or was it Yesterday after uh after Sulaman did the live interview >> yeah know Sulaman um posted out a short and the short didn't really have the disclaimers and the before context and

the after context and then he got it and it's his birthday today and and you know he he just completely freaked out um and and just took it incredibly personally. Um >> caused the drama. I caused the drama. Although just for my own innocence, It was only >> It's an H1B, isn't it? >> It It was H1B, actually. I didn't even clip that. I didn't even know. >> Have a word. Have a word, man. You got to You got to do some quality control. >> Credit. No, Simon. I got him credit because he's got me

more content. He's going to be like I'm going to be like, "Bro, how come you click click that?" and he's going to be like, "Oh, bro, bro, we got content ain't in it." We got More content now. The drama >> next show everyone. >> Okay, look, I I just think it's really important for me that Amir Taki gets to tell his side of the story. Um, and I I'm just sharing what I know and and I think he has the right to, you know, to to share his side of the story. I just think that's

really important. >> Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I was joking there, but of course we need to hear both sides because I agree with you Actually on that. Um, of course we have a lot and I know some of the cooks might get upset, Lun. Uh, but the thing is, um, although we have questions about some of the things that have come out on the conspiracies, I do think that there has to be for some people some kind of analysis before you basically completely convict them. And the reason for that is is I think you said

it quite accurately and that's actually been one of my Things I've been thinking about recently is this idea of almost like becoming like a me too movement but it's like just anyone named in there automatically is guilty. Like Joe was in the Hamptons, oh my god, he's automatically guilty. Or Simon's in Bitcoin, he's automatically guilty. >> Davos, he was in Davos. >> Oh yeah, I mean he was in Davos. Yeah. So it's like you got to you could destroy like not that these guys are Joking but you could destroy like in real talk you could

destroy people's lives on this. So I do think that there needs to be a bit of uh carefulness in that regard as well because I feel like maybe that's been dropped quite a bit in this kind of by all of us including me in this kind of uh uh you know this race to try and get the information out as quick as possible. So yeah I think that's a fair thing to say. Um, okay. I got a message from someone and you know Me, no messages to me are private. Um, and it says I think

they're talking about Lun, but it may not be because I can't see anybody else here. Obviously, it's not can't be DD or Brix. It says she's a Mosad 82 hybrid eagirl honeypot. So, I think it might be you. >> Wow. >> That's like everything. That's the message I got by a very established person on uh on the Twitter vers. So, we Watch. We've got eyes on you, L. The peeps have got the peeps have got eyes on you. This ain't no We ain't no Dr. Not everyone's Dr. Michael, right? Okay, let's go to Tama. >>

Sorry. When you and Simon going to do that interview then? Um let me see because I did get a message because what happened was after the fallout um uh because actually one of the guys um Simon praised a lot because in the same interview you actually paid praise. Do You remember Ray Ysef and um yourself and there was a third person >> yeah that's it that three of you had spoken. So yeah, he's a Palestinian um and he wrote the book The Bitcoin Standards and he was he was brought up in the West Bank, but

he now lives in America, I think. >> Yeah. Yeah. So you mentioned in that specific interview that you three were the three people that spoke against the Gaza genocide like like immediately when It happened and continues to do so. And at the start like the Bitcoin the Bitcoin community was full of Zios and they were hitting on you and kind of that's changed a lot. You said that in the interview, right? Um, right. >> Yeah. And and Ray uses this and myself, we we did quite a lot of initiatives to try and get some um

funding to those that needed food and stuff. And maybe maybe it didn't work out how it was. But The point is that we we tried to get a lot of money >> between um Ray and myself to support the cause. >> Yeah. Yeah. Even if it may or may not have worked or people may or may not have scammed. Um but um what he was a bit upset and he did message me and uh he wasn't happy with what had been said and um and so then and then I just and he said, "Oh, look,

you need to let him have his Side of the story." And I said, "Yeah, sure. Of course, of course." You know, we're not about that. Like we're about truth, isn't it? More than anything else. Uh uh so of course we'll we'll get him on. And then that's when he said, "Okay, cool. As soon as I land, I'll create the group." and then he created the group and then we just uh then you saw whatever was said in the group where he just said yeah let's arrange something uh for all of us to be on a

on A platform together to talk about it. So that was the that was the result of it cuz you know how it is. We're all about the truth. We're all about the justice and fairness. We and we don't need the ancient Samrians from the future using time traveling technology to tell us to do it. We just do it on our own. Right. Truth. Jump in with the >> teleporting is real. And let me just say That they're called the Anunnaki. >> They're called the Anunnaki. >> But um by the way, there is there is talk

of time travel within the Epstein files. Um he owned a he invested 20 million in a in a company called Quantum Space is pretty interesting but we'll stay with >> Oh my god. So he invested in time traveling technology. That time traveling technology was used to bring Charlie Kirk back from the Future. Charlie Kirk is then assassinated. Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk meet each other in this X-Men school of the gifted and then Candace Owens reveals everything that happened. So Charlie So basically Epste behind >> Oh, >> no man. If Ryan's listening, he's going to

blow a gasket. First of all, um I don't know about and that's I will I will say I did roll my eyes uh quite a Bit when people kept saying that Charlie Kirk was still alive. Even though I tried not to be judgmental to me that's like come on now. Um so I could understand the frustration that he might have felt when people were saying that about Epstein. But it's not like it was kind of this oh we know he is. It's kind of like it's interesting that the things that you know came out I

actually dismissed them early on like anything on 4chan. Yeah. Right. Like I'm supposed to Trust that [ __ ] that's where Q was birthed and you know that just drives me nuts. So I I dismissed it and I think that it was just interesting that you know some of those pieces came together. Anyway, back to the time travel stuff. Um yeah, where were you going with that Sully? >> I wasn't going anywhere with it other than I came other than knowing that people have come from the future into the past such as Charlie Kirk. So

Epstein is behind Kirk. So it's like Kirkstein, right? Truth. Anyway, Sulaman, you've had um I I played your um interview on my live today and you've we've had uh in the last few hours, we've had 12,000 views. >> Oh my god, that is awesome. I'm becoming famous. I'm becoming famous on YouTube. Like, I got 12,000 views. That's awesome. But yeah, we'll uh wait, Brix, why you doing thumbs down? Okay, anyway, let's go to truth. >> Oh, thanks. No, I just did you guys cover the fact that members of Congress will be able to view the

unredacted Epstein files next week. Did you guys see that? >> Explain. >> Yeah, I mentioned it. >> Oh, you mentioned in my news earlier. So, it's not it's not actually members. It's not all members of Congress. Um, and let me tell you what the caveats to it are. >> Um, it's the ones funded by Apac. >> It's starting Monday. um three million pages of unredact and it could be Simon because I don't know who the members are but >> yeah more than three million pages of unredacted Epstein documents are going to be available but only

physically at the DOJ headquarters in Washington um and access will be restricted to the judiciary committee leaders I don't know who they are um but they can't just go To this um DOJ HQ in Washington these judiciary committee leaders will have to give 24 hours notice. They can't bring any staff and they can't bring any electronics. Um, that's all it is. >> Oh, okay. No, so it seems like it's a lot more restricted than the headline had led on. So, yeah, probably. And they're all probably friends with Israel, so we'll never get to hear it.

I was just concerned because >> I I wonder if they force an NDA on the way in. >> Yeah, I I wouldn't be surprised. No, I was just concerned because the Super Bowl is on Sunday and with them releasing that information on Monday, I didn't want anything to like, you know, be like a false flag happening at the Super Bowl and then we wouldn't talk about it like they did at 911 when Rumsfeld was trying to hide all those uh documents about the billions of dollars That they had lost. Uh so and there was um

I was talking yesterday about like all the rituals that they do and they show us in all these Hollywood movies that uh Batman movie that uh with uh I forgot his name but that Batman movie that came out with the three-part um uh the three-part movies that was directed by that British director that had like a lot of a lot of symbolism that they put in uh ritualistic satanic and they showed that the Super Bowl was going to Get attacked in in one of those uh Batman movies. So, I was just concerned. I was hoping

that that was not going to happen and possibly lead us and take us to a a war with Iran cuz these people are crazy. They're they're pedophiles. They do, you know, very satanic things. So, that was just my two cents. I I won't say anything else. I'll leave it back to you guys. Thank you, though. crickets. >> Oh my god. Brix, do some work. The first Time I'm on my phone texting someone back for an interview, she's like off the This is what I mean about chicks, bro. Now you know what Ryan was saying. God,

let's bring this boss of noobs up as well. Okay. Um, >> yeah, you're lucky. I was about to start playing that YouTube video that I found of you that you're claiming is an crowd. What they >> racist? You're trying to say all all Asians look look alike. And also this Guy, >> he's just as funny as you. >> Also, this guy um this person who sent me a message. I think they're right about you. I think you are Mossad 8200. And I'm just asking questions. I'm just Are you Wait a second. how you must add

or 8200. We're just asking questions. I mean, she just turned up like recently, you know, like think about it. >> Turn around, >> bro. Like, you know, she's a she's uh >> I was like anti Solomon. I was creeping around in the tunnels with your spaces hating on you. No, I'm just kidding. >> That's everybody. Everybody hate on me, then they love me. It is what it is. Okay, let's >> never >> boss of noobs. Boss of ns. Jump in. >> Oh, I didn't think you'd call on me that quick. I'm I'm a man of

the people. I'll bring up everyone and anyone. It don't matter to me how many followers you got. It don't matter to me. Well, you're not even following me. Why did I even bring you up? But you Anyway, go ahead. >> Yeah, I'm just finding it a little bit curious the stuff with uh Nancy Guine. Wasn't there a connection found between her daughter um and someone connected to Epstein? >> Say again. Who? >> Uh Nancy. Are you talking about Virginia Guthrie? >> No. Nancy Gunthy is Savannah Gunthrey Who's on what is it? Good morning. Her mom's

missing. >> Yeah. But what's important here in the connection is the husband um last name Felman. Damn it. I can't think of his name right now. Felman. He is actually the scrubber for the Clintons. And what the scrubber means is his company was actually contracted to literally scrub the internet of negative news. Anybody that doesn't know this, this is actually a True thing. There are um companies that actually clean things off the internet. So his company was actually contracted by the Clintons. So the connection there being is that this there's conspiracies around the fact that

her kidnapping pertained to the Clintons now going into trial. >> I just found it interesting >> on on that note. Um maybe a separate theory, but the FBI seems to be revisiting that crime scene very Frequently and very rapidly. And I don't see a particular reason having friends, albeit much smaller. Uh, one of them is a detective for the sheriff's department. So, obviously not the scale of the FBI, but even he thinks it's like if you clear a crime scene, you clear it. And if you keep like maybe you rush back for one thing after

you realize you, you know, you're missing a critical piece of evidence, like a shell casing, right? It's like, oh, this Person shot five rounds. We only have four shell casings. we need to get back there and find it. But they're going back and back and back and they're not dragging feet on it. So, it m it makes me think that she's divulging something or even potentially they have her in custody to get this information. >> Who's they? >> The FBI themselves. And this you mean why they took Nancy Gunthy >> that she's giving the information?

Sorry, I'm confused. >> I'm somewhat insinuating that the FBI took her to get this information. I >> think she was kind of a no. I I don't know. I could be wrong on that, but I think she was kind of a nobody. I don't know that she did anything big. Do you >> I saw some people correlating the kidnap to which kidnapping which I mean she did This interview. She interviewed one of the Epstein um victims, but I thought that was a while ago and so people were sharing that it may have had to do

with that. >> Yeah, I saw the same thing. So anybody that doesn't know Savannah Guthrie is a Solomon and um Beatatrix and Simon I know you're not in the US. So she's like on like call it the equation of like good morning whatever good like a good good morning talk show. >> Yeah Beatric knows what that is. She was a major fan but do continue. >> Oh my gosh. So uh she >> no that was a dig at me DD sorry because because um few years ago about I don't know four or five years ago

Pierce Morgan used to present it in the UK and I used to watch it that's why he's having the dick but do continue >> don't be digging it be chicks unite so he is um a morning talk show host and her mother I think her mother's very old Either 80s or 90s something like that um and she was kidnapped. I think it went on for like what two or three days or something like that. And it was a very big deal like in media here cuz they were kind of linking it to Epste. I don't

know. >> Did they find out? >> I can see. Yeah, I think they just found her actually. >> Is there check, but I'm pretty sure it came. >> Did they find out who she was kidnapped by? >> I think there was a note. I was actually literally just reading it and I hate that I'm invested in the story. I'm not gonna lie because I feel like it's a distraction. I don't know. >> Did you do any research after that previous conspiracy with another one? But that last one was a bit >> So one second. Could

someone recap the story for me? >> Yeah. So the this morning talk you outd Oh my god. He's terrible, dude. And I'm doing it again like an idiot. >> No, I'm concentrating. I'm concentrating. I'm really concentr like I literally got my I got my hood on, my my uh hoodie hood on and I'm like staring at the at the phone but I've got my eyes closed. I'm really concentrating. Go. >> Nope. >> She said nope. >> No. No. Tell me. I want to hear it. So go free. What happens? >> Oh my god. Is this

trap, guys? Be >> not trap. >> No, it's not. It's not. It's not. >> I love it. like, "All right, go." >> No, I'm really confident. She said, "Nope. >> I'm using my whole brain power." >> Oh my god. Okay, so Savannah Guthrie is a morning show tac host and she's big. She used to be on Remember Matt Laour, Whatever the hell the pervert. She used to be his co-host. Um, and she her mother who's older, I think she's like either 80 or 90, she was kidnapped. It's it's all really weird. There was a whole

ransom note and all this other stuff. Uh what's really interesting, her husband is a Zionist Jew. Uh and he used to work for the Clintons and his company was actually a scrubbing company. The company would actually remove things from the internet and really deep dive Like really really remove like to the point where it's not like buried, it's just gone. And they're linking that this has something to do with the fact that maybe the scrubber saw and knew too much. That's the theory that I'm hearing. >> And have they found the mother yet? >> I

think they actually just found her. I was literally just checking on the story. >> Okay. Interesting. See, I like really Listened. So, um, Simon and, um, Solomon, do you remember, um, this came up on my timeline today, right? I don't know if you, it was quite a while ago. I think it was pre-diana, and I was looking it up, but did you ever hear up of a woman called Jill Dando in the UK? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, so remember her, right? So for our American friends um and Joah um she Was a

a presenter for the BBC and it was a program >> American. Why are you doing husbar against him? >> I said for our American friends and Joah um he has digs at me all the time. I'm putting him into friends category. >> But he's he's a friend >> and for and for American friends and for the Portugal Joa. Um, so she used to present um on the BBC, she was quite well known, a program called Crime Watch And it used to come on I think once a month where they used to have the and I

was watching clips of it. They don't do it anymore, but I was watching clips of it today on YouTube and they used to have like like senior police officers come in and show how a real crime took place and how they they would either appeal for witnesses and like the most horrendous serious crimes and the appeal for witnesses and say, "Look, somebody was murdered and this this big, you Know, thing took place and we need witnesses and then they'd also present one or two that was solved the previous month or something and thank people, thank

the viewers." Anyway, this presenter Jill Dando, when you look at her picture, she resembles like a little bit of Princess Diana, you know, tall, blonde, pretty. Um, she was engaged, I think they were saying that she was engaged to a dentist or something. And she lived in central London. She got on To some pedophile ring, right? As in cuz her her whole job was about presenting and busting crimes and she was investigating a pedophile ring. Yeah. and she made some comments about the fact that it was a high netw worth pedophile ring. One day she

goes to an interview in the morning, I think it was, comes back to her central London home, is going up the stairs towards her front door, somebody comes up behind her on a on a motorbike or something and Just shoots her dead right there and then like that. Just like that. And it came up on my timeline today and I thought this is interesting, right? And they were saying that she was on to it at the time. She was on to it at that time. her fianceé, the dentist, didn't say anything afterwards. I think he

was terrified. Um, and as quickly as that story happened, it kind of disappeared at the time. Um, but I think that people who were on to it before, like even now, Um, they were just off to be honest. And so what you're saying about this lady's husband doing that job and the mother-in-law being kidnapped, it doesn't seem that far-fetched. I feel like um you know this is this is stuff that happens to be honest and it just doesn't happen in our world but it happens in a whole world out there. Well, yeah, I completely forgot

about that. But it's so strange um because we look back at history at things that I don't know, everything makes sense now, right? Like um but at the time you couldn't even comprehend what was really happening at these, but now Yeah. There's there's so much. Who was the guy that had um the comedian that had like someone dead in his swimming pool or something? Was it Russ? Was it >> Barry? Barry Barry something, wasn't it? >> Yeah. Who was it? >> Yeah. >> Um, >> what's that all about? Like you look back at these things

and you're like, >> it was a kid, wasn't it? It was like a 17 or 18 year old boy, wasn't it? >> Yeah. And and think of these people like Bruce Foresight and all these different people, right, from back in the day. And >> you put Jimmy Savile, Simon. Jimmy Sav. >> Jimmy Savile. Yeah. But Jimmy Stab guys, he used to work at the BBC and I'm sure the BBC is full of pedophiles. I'm not joking because it's Establishment media, right? So he worked for the BBC for years and he used to do a program

called GML Fix It. And basically kids used to write in and say, "Oh, Jimmy, I'd really like to like, you know, go in a helicopter. Can you fix it for me?" And then he'd he'd bring the child on, put the child on his lap and say, "You wrote to me 3 months ago and we fixed it for you. Now let's play a clip of you in the helicopter." or whatever it was. I want to ride on Horseback or you know I'd love to go swimming with dolphins and I fixed it for you. Let's play a

clip. And he always had these kids on his lap, right? Go and watch his things. Anyway, then they made him sir Jimmy Savile. They gave him a knighthood and then he died and it was like literally he was like one of the heroes of this country. And then when I first learned about it was I don't know like some years ago it all came out in the news that Sergey Savile Was a pedophile and all these girls came out and said we've been saying it for years. He'd abused us. He'd raped us. I'm sure he

even probably killed some of them. And they'd been saying it for years but neither the the political establishment nor the police wanted to do anything. Um or or because they thought it would take down the BBC and the top brass at the BBC. They all knew of it and they all kept quiet. Nobody investigated. Now he was dead. But then The queen um the late queen, she took away his knighthood. Um which obviously doesn't make a difference cuz the guy's dead. And then people were really angry and somebody went and desecrated his uh gravestone and

everything, but there's nothing you can do. He was dead and they knew about it all the way through. Like there's been quite a few of those, Simon, haven't there? in the UK like but they're all connected to government and BBC and politics and stuff you know. >> Yeah, absolutely. You see it all with um a completely different set of eyes now. Like you just realize this is systemic like uh these aren't these aren't like freaky events. These are just the ones we find out about and it's all it's all built into the system like it's

how power functions. That's sick. I'm gonna jump in. Um, so I just wanted to correct something really quickly. I was wrong. She was not found. Um, it was Uh information on the ransom note. There was a guy that put in a fake ransom note. He was caught. Um, and there's a new ransom note that's being dissected now that's for millions of dollars of Bitcoin. Simon Just saying. >> Look, if you're going to do crime, the last thing you want to do is put it on an immutable record and blockchain where it is not there's no

plausible deniability. It's a it's a record that stays there forever. >> That's true, Simon. Like, I'm not a Bitcoin guy. I ain't got no Bitcoin, right? Uh, I didn't listen to Joe's propaganda yesterday, which may not end up being propaganda. But the thing is, um, like that's true. You can actually like track it because I remember when someone was telling me to get Zcash, which I didn't end up doing. So, Flip, I didn't end up becoming a millionaire that way either. But, um, that's one of the arguments they made. They were like, "Bro, like Zcash,

bro. Like, it's privacy. Like, they can't read it. Like, they can't see it." >> Z stand for Zo? >> Yeah. It's a Zo. It's a We me zero knowledge proof. Yeah, me and Oh yeah, zero knowledge. It doesn't really stand for Zo, but it is a Zio one. It's made in Tel Aviv, right? We covered it. >> I I I was just like, "Oh my god, I was right." Anyway, but go ahead. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's made by Zios in Tel Aviv and it we covered it. We me covered it in my man and Simon's

interview. Um but I did know about >> Yeah, Zo is written all over it. Z. >> Well, I didn't know there someone told me about it when it was at um Simon when it was at 20 some dollars. >> Max Prime, >> huh? >> Max Prime. >> Yeah, he did. Yeah, he was like Z $20. And I was like, oh bro, I was like I Just you know what it is like I just didn't do it. And then um obviously end up going to like 700 or something. But anyway, the point being that that's one

of the arguments they made. They said it's privacy coin. But actually like I think you made a very strong argument in our interview, right? You said that in reality they say it was privacy coin but they relied on one of those dorks to burn the key which and he was a Zio and so therefore he probably didn't do it Right. >> Yeah. I mean, um, it was a trusted setup. And remember, if you're buying Zcash, you have to go to an exchange, and when you go to an exchange, you have to do KYC, and then

you withdraw it. >> Wait, that's not right. I got it. It was You can get it on trust as well. >> On trust. How do you get it on trust? >> Trust wallet. Yeah. >> Um, >> decentralized. It doesn't have to be centralized. >> Uh, with a with a different coin though, right? You convert one coin to the other coin. uh >> how you going to get money in? >> Yeah. Yeah. You convert one coin to another coin. Yeah. So you got like US So basically you could have USDT on uh decentralized and then you

convert it to a Zcash, isn't it? >> Uh yes. So I mean but in order to get the USDT, you would have gone through some kind of KYC onramp and offramp at some point. Um >> unless unless someone >> Yeah. If someone sent you it. Yeah. So you can transact. Um but yeah the when Zcash was first launched, you know, there was a company and then the company um receives a tax on every transaction. Um and the initial setup was just get a Bunch of people together that trust me but promised they destroyed the key.

And and one of those was a Zia called Peter Todd who was um a Bitcoin core developer that came later. Uh and yeah, you had to so we went through like yeah, you had to trust that Peter Todd killed the key. I don't follow all of these technologies, so maybe it changes over time, but the point is that it started as a a trusted setup connected to a company Um where a tax is charged and then it goes to that company uh and then it's meant to be, you know, a privacy coin. Um but who

knows whether it was set up as a as a honeypot in the first place. But I don't know, Joe, do you know much about the technology? I think zero knowledge proof was developed in Tel Aviv University, right? It was a project that came from there. >> Yeah, it was funded by them. Um but there I mean it was really strange Because it was uh it didn't follow a natural curve of something being organic because typically price is followed by hype and price had pumped a lot before the hype, right? Um, >> oh, there was massive

hype leading up to the launch. People thought it was going to be like the biggest thing and it had all the Barry Silbert and everyone. >> Yeah, but pre-launch it was it was a like people were talking about it everywhere. >> Yeah. >> Speaking about pre-launch, are you guys hearing about this silly Super Bowl ad? >> Has anybody heard about it? >> Yeah, of course. We're in on the news. It's so lame. Robert Craft, obviously. So like >> I don't even know who's made it to Super Bowl. I forgot what football is. Like I like

I used to be into that. Like I really did. I used to you know it's crazy how >> times what the competition even >> how did how did it switch that fast? Like how did it go that fast? because you guys are going to take it down of of financial space and we're trying to liven up the space on >> how here I'll I'll do it. >> No, but it's an N in terms of the NFL. They're not talking about who's in the Super Bowl. It's the Patriots against Seahawks. Maze, but they're talking about the

Super Bowl halfime ad. And one Of the ads basically Robert Craft who is a Jewish Zionist billionaire who owns the New York Patriots who may or may not have been actually he's not may or may not he was um basically I think he I'm paraphrasing now because I can't remember the full story but he was basically found in an illegal massage parlor in a raid. Um, so anyway, this guy has funded like a Super Bowl ad. >> Wait, wait, wait. But you can't go but you can't go off of that. That was so Lame. Do

you remember? He goes, remember after he got caught with the And it was illegals, by the way. Illegal. I think it was Chinese workers or Asian workers that were giving him those massages. And he goes, "Oh, it's cuz my wife just died. My wife just died. That's why I had to go to sex workers." Yeah. Pervert. His wife just died, bro. DD, have some have some >> Oh my god. Stop. >> Come on, bro. Okay, he's a Zo. I won't Give him the sympathy. So, anyway, he's um Yeah. So, listen, guys. A dirty perh. So,

coming back to it. Um and actually, no, I don't know. It's a hard one because I hate Zios. Well, no, I don't hate anyone, but I dislike Zios because of the support of evil behavior, but then my audience is male. Zios are male. Okay, we'll attack the Zo. >> I can do it. I can do it. >> The guy's a freak. >> I can do I'll do it for you. I'll do it for you. He's a freak and a pervert. A total pervert. >> I agree. Obviously Zia is worse than being a chick. Okay. So,

um, now coming back to it. Unless you're a Z chick, then that's obviously the worst. But anyway, coming back to it. So, then what happens is he basically funds this Super Bowl ad which costs a huge amount of money. What does it cost nowadays? I know that it cost a lot. >> I think it was 80 million. It was 80 million I think. >> Yeah. Insane, >> bro. I know Y did one last time, didn't you? Did you see that one? That funny. But anyway, coming back to it. But coming back to it, h because

I don't want to get L say that we hate Jews or whatever, but we don't. And then coming back to it, the um the um so he appears for this ad and it's about this kid who's getting bullied and apparently Gets a note and it says, "Oh, you're like a you're like a Jew or something." Oh, I think I learned your help with this. Anyway, so then he says, "Oh, like you're like a Jew." And it's like, "Oh my god, don't be racist. Don't hurt people's feelings." Bro, it was propaganda to the next level. It

crazy. And what's what's the best part is that part other Jewish this best part the Jewish people are angry at the ad because they're saying it makes us Jews Look weak. That's the best part. Y'all spent all that money on that ad and your people even hate it. I'm just gonna throw that out there. I don't know if we have any other uh real AF podcast watchers, but I'm pretty sure >> Indie DJ, >> another podcast. Um the real AF podcast. >> What's the Real AF podcast, bro? >> I'm gonna let you do that on

your own time. If you haven't watched it, watch It. >> Oh, you're talking about >> I think he knows what the acronym means, though. AF like uh Nick. You talking about Nick's podcast? No. >> Well, that's the only real AF. I don't know what this guy's talking about. Anyway, let's go to uh >> I have something that I thought was really interesting. Just >> go for it. Tell us. Is it really Interesting? Like, you got to top Dee now. She came up with a good one. >> I guess Maze isn't. >> No, no, no. It's

not going to top Dee. Never. I never top D. That's my thing. I just like >> pull up right beside her and be like, "Yo, I heard." Okay, so there's >> good or not. So, look, check this out. Jeffrey Epstein's brother, okay, um submitted an FBI, like he gave a tip to the FBI. This just came out in the Files. And he said that he definitely thinks that he was murdered. He was not. He didn't commit suicide. He said, and I think that Donald Trump gave them because he was going to talk. He's like, I

think Donald Trump gave him the go. His brother said that. >> You mean the order? He gave the order. >> The order. Thank you. Yes. There. Yes. >> So, you're saying Donald Trump did it? >> Okay. This is a Zionist propaganda. I Don't think it was Donald Trump. >> Not that he did it, but that he gave >> he gave the order. No, I don't think it was Donald Trump. Everybody knows I love the magaz leave it up to Sully to always jump to a conclusion. >> No, listen. I love the Margas. No, that's what

she said. She said Trump gave the order and I'm saying no, he didn't. I love MAGA. I love the red state. I'm in. >> Don't brother said it. I didn't say it. >> Yeah. I mean, but I believe >> Jeffrey Epstein's brother must have known about what was going on. If anything, he's a he's a he probably be I don't know him. I'm assume actually I don't know, but he could be like in on it or something. How can he not know what your brother's up? Although he may not know, but then he's Epstein, so

he's a Zio. So anyway, I don't trust Epstein's brother. But point is Trump Mara don't deport me. I love this red state I'm in. Don't deport me. That being said, don't say it's Trump. It's the Zios. It's the Zios. It's the Zios. Trust me. >> Simon, listen. Not Simon. Sorry. I said Simon Zakani. It's the Zios. I've been putting videos out on YouTube, right? You know, they're growing a little bit. The numbers are increasing. I put one out today about Jewish supremacy and the video Flipping's dead. I can't even talk about it. And I was

literally spending the last day doing research on my next one where I was going to really give a detailed account of why it was mustad. Like because most people talk about it, but no one gets into the detail. And I was going to give a comprehensive like 25 minute 20 minute detailed account so everyone could be like, oh [ __ ] like oh it's mustad and most people can't explain it. But oh let's look at that Video. All the evidence is there. And now I'm like is it worth like I've already spent all this whole

day. It's going to take another two days and nobody's going to watch it. Like this is what they do. They control the algorithm. It's the zyos. It's the zyos. 100% chance that the Zios 100% >> 100%. Not 60, not 70, not 80, not 90. 100% the Zios killed Epstein. Anyone who says anything to the different Is a Zio Lun. I'm not >> Wasn't he a Zio though? That's that's >> yeah because he had their secrets Lun. So he was doing this operation for the Zios. He was blackmailing prime ministers and presidents and politicians and celebrities

and kings and queens and princes for the state of Israel for Zionism. And then when he became a liability, what do you do to your liability? You Cut it off even though you're a Jewish Zionist yourself. For the great goat is he's a sacrifice for them. >> Meanwhile, he's still playing with his Fortnite little guy that has a little Zio thing on. >> That's not him. That's his brother. >> That turned out No, no, that came out. >> It came out. Fortnite. I don't know how. >> I only know because I I follow Solomon's. >>

No, I don't know. I sent the link. >> It came out. I'll send it now. >> Send it to me, bro. Fortnite came out with >> That's my hit 1B guy posting stuff out which is uh you know I need to check anyway. It might be right. Let me see it. But the thing is >> why aren't you using open claw? >> What's a open call? >> Open claw. >> I don't know. Tim Sweeney seems based enough to if that account was actually Located in Israel he would have said something. >> Who? >> Tim Sweeney

the CEO of uh Epic Games. >> What about him? >> Didn't he come out today? said that they Yeah, they said that it was a account that was real news newly established. I don't know. >> So, it's not it's not Epstein then. >> They don't think it's him though. woman. Anyone who started stuff >> like I I think I think that person who told me about this chick being a Mossad operative, I think that person might be right because anyone who tries to redirect attention away from Israel about that person. >> How did How did

I do that? Wait, but I want to go back. >> I'm not saying you did. I'm not saying you did. >> I'm asking questions. I didn't say you Did. I'm I'm just asking questions. I'm just is is it is it is it impermissible to ask questions or as Muslims say is it haram to ask questions? We're just asking questions. It's the kindest way. So anyway, um coming back to the point I was saying Jeffrey Epstein was mad. So much evidence he was mad. The guy was were acting on behalf of them. Guys, you're all quite

rightly are talking About the human trafficking and that kind of stuff, but you need to continue talking about this MOSAD operation. These Zios have control over the United States of America, the United Kingdom, the even the flipping GCC countries, they had NBS. They grabbed in by the, as Trump would say, they grabbed in by the NBS, NBZ. They didn't buy, bro. They got all of them. Wait, but then I think it might have been I don't know, man. I >> I think there's some plausibility to what Maize was saying as well. >> I think Listen,

listen. There's plausibility that Trump ordered the hit. There's something there. Oh my god. Did your pal >> That's what I said. >> He's a big Zio. He's a big big big Z. Big big big Z. >> No, he's a Zio. But he's their [ __ ] bro. He ain't the He ain't the kingpin. He ain't the kingmaker. >> No, but listen. Wait, hold on. So, listen to listen to my my my rationale. Okay. So, he realizes that they did him dirty and they had all this information on him and he comes to the realization, oh

crap, I'm going to go down for this. So, you know what? How do I fix this? I got to kill him. And he thinks he's reclaiming the power. That's my mindset. >> Oh my god. Why do you have to turn it into a murder mystery? first thing and the second thing is no >> w Danielle steals >> it's the zos >> I think it's disingenuous to not consider all possibilities especially in this day and age like we we've seen hundreds of different theories >> what you mean you saying it's not desires >> that's not what

I'm saying >> oh cool then >> I'm not I'm not saying either or >> I'm not saying either or I'm saying to not consider That is >> But is it the Zios? >> No, but hold on. Hold on. Who's to say if Trump actually ordered the hit? Who's to say it wasn't the Zios cuz they made the boy? >> That's possible. So he just he's just Carrying out the orders. He's just a He's just the middleman then. Isn't he DD in your in your murder mystery? >> He still did it. He was still the one

with the middle. The real king. The real king is the Zios. It's It's the It's the Zios. >> I don't think he's dead. Oh my god. >> I'm just being a stubborn ass right now. I see why you see that >> Ryan come back and smash these chicks. >> Wait, is that what he was getting mad at that honestly here? Listen. Were you not there, >> guys? I'm to the point. No, I had to take a pause. Got something going on in the house. >> He straight up said this is where I'm [ __ ]

for thinking that Epstein was still alive. And so then maze came up and she gave a she just gave a reasonable explanation and said that you know well my friend did a lot of Research on this situation and he said basically that he's he doesn't give any because she's a woman he's not going to look at the research women are not researchers and then started being mean to maze and then I had rehash this rehash this lun we're not reacting >> I was telling DD >> you're praising yeah you could you could say in DM

uh and by the way now you're just praising now you're just praising Ryan right let's Go to Tiger 48. Tiger 48, jump in. Please save me from this. >> Oh my god. Why would you request? Okay, let me bring that weirdo up cuz I know he says weird things like he wants to debate people. Oh yeah, listen. Ben Habre like that guy. I'm bringing you up. Just like annoy these chicks. Like do your thing against them. Debate them. Debate them, bro. >> Wait, is it the JCW guy? First of all, listen to me. If I

smash you in the Space, don't get in my DMs. You're not going to talk to me. You're disgusting and I'm not on the market. You're all disgusting little men. Little men. >> That's so funny. They come back and they try to hit on you. >> Dude, you're the guy the guy that we thought was was Beta Wolf. The Beta Wolf guy keeps sending me kisses and I'm a >> what the term. >> Okay, let's go to Let's go to Ben. Ben. Ben, like I know you like debating These. you last time you were like, "Debate

me, debate me. Go and debate them, bro." >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Where should them, bro? >> Everything. Anywhere you want to go, just smash them. >> Where should we start? Um, I mean, basically, let's talk about Jeffrey Epstein. So, you guys are missing the play here, and I'm trying to take >> Tell them Tell them they're missing Things. Go ahead. >> Let me tell you. So, you guys are You guys need to take a >> Don't talk like that. Don't >> Oh my [ __ ] god. Are you going to let me talk or

no? >> Wait, don't swear though. But >> why are you getting so angry so right away? Why? And who hurt you? Your mother or your father? >> It's just like the interruptions without purpose. >> Ben, Ben, it's not your fault. It's what the chicks do. Let me read the super chat. I'm going to come to you guys in a second. Uh, the cool says, "I'm sorry, bro. I'll tune in tomorrow. The chicks are clearly drunk tonight." >> Well, the cool I would say first of all, I think some of them don't drink. It's just their

normal temperament. Anyway, let's go back to uh Ben. Ben, just don't swear. That's all I'm asking. But don't continue smash. >> Yeah. So, so with Jeffrey Epstein, all right, let's talk about him. So, with Jeffrey Epste, it's like everyone's missing the picture. I'm going to take it one dimension bigger, right? So, this is the way it works, right? Everyone thinks, who does Jeffrey Epstein work for? Does he work for MSAD? Does he work for the CIA? Does he work for uh all these people? But everyone's missing the point. Jeffrey Epstein works for Jeffrey Epstein. This

is how the Game works. >> All right. Jeffrey Epstein is the player. >> He's using the CIA. He's using MSAD. He's using the UK. He's using whatever he could get his hands into because that's the kind of guy what guys do when they're master web builders. I'm sorry you guys have never thought that deep and that complex, but that's how the game works. >> Damn. >> He's talking to you. You're the one that >> talking to you guys. He's literally saying you're too dirt. But there was no conspiracy. It's just Jeffrey Epste. Jeffrey Epste. >>

Well, I'm glad you changed out the pink hoodie before you came up here acting like you got some B. >> Um, >> you guys got no response to him. I think he just smashed you all. >> You know, I think I think that's could Be seen that could be seen as a legitimate option. All right. No points. >> Newbie, newbie, Miss John Smash. Go ahead, miss. >> But first of all, if you know the story and how he got positioned, you would know that he came out of nowhere. He was positioned there by Lex Wexner.

There was a whole lot of history about that. >> He was positioned. He was positioned. Do you guys not understand? That's cuz you guys listening. >> You guys wait, let me talk. >> You guys never had First of all, act like a toddler, bro. I I I was yielding to you to to hear you interrupt. >> Fine. Fine. Go ahead. Do your little fairy dance. Finish. >> It's not a fairy dance. I'm just telling you. >> Go ahead. I'm giving you the floor. >> Hey, how do you how do you play? >> How How do

you play Massad? Do you know what? Do you know what happened to Robert Maxwell when he tried to bribe Msad? >> Dude, it's like people know people. That's how the game is, baby. It's like when you're >> before before this like high-pitched fool started talking, Maize was making a smash. Let's go, Maze. >> Is that you know he was the the whole Santa Fe group? He didn't just come up with that himself. Like he didn't he wasn't positioned he was a teacher. So Like do you know the history before you pop out of your theory?

>> No. Tell tell me about the history. Go ahead. Tell me. >> He doesn't even have a degree. Okay. He just all of a sudden ended up with tons of money with no with no excuse. >> That's how it is, baby. That's how it is when you're mad smart. You could just finesse things, baby. That's how it goes. When you're a big player, you don't understand because you're not Thinking super big. You're not playing mega >> you're you're like an actual you're an actual ret you're just thinking small. I'm trying to like I said in

the very start of this conversation you guys have such loud mics. >> I say you say nonsense. >> It seems that you actually reduce the complexity though like >> makes sense when you talk to me. >> He just reports to himself. That's Interesting. >> Makes sense when you talk to me. Jesus Christ. I don't even >> You're not even listening. >> Okay. Okay. This is another This is literally another example of why you shouldn't do crank. >> Go ahead. I'm letting you >> Oh my god, it's pathetic. >> She's She's like the representative of this

whole thing. Go ahead. Continue. >> Why are you throwing me in this? I'm Staying quiet. >> As I was saying, okay, this is Maize. as I was saying is that you don't just come up out of the blue from nowhere and all of a sudden have all these connections >> because you're not smart enough. You're not smart enough. You think that no one could do [ __ ] like that because you never thought something. >> You see why you're so triggered? Why are you so emotional? >> I'm just trying to teach you guys game, Baby.

>> Okay. I think is this role play or something? I don't understand what I'm supposed >> I'm just trying to teach you guys game. >> He's really He's really really excited. He's really really excited. They actually let him out of the the the trailer park. Can you make sense on an Obama phone >> and he's really excited that he can talk? >> I'm like trying to find his side that Epstein is super smart. Can you Can you just explain >> Lun? Good question. >> Yeah, let me explain. I'll explain plenty of things to you, baby.

What do you want me to ask >> for asking the question I asked? >> What is this baby mess like? You need to leave that out. >> I'm trying to teach you guys the dimension that we need to be in. >> Yeah, I check out for a second. Go. Dimension one. Go. >> What do you want to learn? >> Dimension. Are you in the fifth dimension? Are you playing 5D chess? >> What do you want to learn right now? >> Okay. I'm tell you right now. Listen. Listen. >> Sorry. M go. >> No, you go.

You >> I just I'm really annoyed that somebody that's wearing Kmart freaking clothes is Running up here calling anybody baby. Like maybe chill the hell down. >> For once. >> There's a lot wrong with Kmart. Zionist >> never made a point to me yet. I'm wait still waiting. Literally still waiting for >> Yeah, Ben, I think you made a strong point. I don't know why there's no response to you. >> Thank you. You're the man, dude. Cuz you Get it. >> No, they asked you twice. They asked you twice. How do you believe for >>

dude? The more I wait, the more you embarrass yourself. >> Wait, wait. Ben, Ben, one second. One second. Let me let me help. Let me help. This is what he's saying. He's saying I don't agree with this point, by the way. But he's I understand his point. He's saying cuz you're saying wait a sec. How A very good question you had. You your question was how can this uneducated weird guy get into all of those positions of power? Whether he got into the private school, whether he became a millionaire, every single role he had, he

was never qualified to do so. And somehow he became this kingpin of this multinational international black operation. And you're saying there must be something hidden behind it. Like for example, Mosad, which I agree with you, by the way. But his contention against you is, but he's just a player playing the game. Like he flexed them all. He flexed the college. He was like, "Listen, I'm so good at these skills. Like 5 plus 5 equals 10." And they were like, "Bro, that's so amazing that math is on another level." And then he was like, "Go into

the finance." And he was like, "Listen, I know like I've done a power slide." Like that's [ __ ] smart, bro. This >> I get what you're saying. And then he played them and then he's like a Jew Jewish Zionist anyway. So he doesn't have to play. He's just like, "Listen, I'm a Jew. Give me this." And they're like, "Oh, bro. Oh, brother." They start dancing and stuff and give him the >> So he's essentially like Hitler and also Walt Disney. They came from nothing and all of a sudden just >> Bro, can you talk

and make sense when You talk? Jesus Christ. It's like we're trying to solve problems here. >> What are you talking about? They came from nothing. >> Like we're we're all here trying to solve problems and you're like a child's game. >> It's ridiculous. >> We're actually getting somewhere here. I'm gonna agree with you. >> You're wasting our time. You're wasting our time. >> Nobody's wasting your I'm I'm literally asking you. What makes you think he was so smart that he finessed himself into >> What makes me think that he's so smart? Huh? I don't know.

Look at him. Look at what he pulled off. >> Give boss the mic. Mike was he was he was starting to agree with me. Go ahead, boss. >> If I may. So, if I if I'm recalling correctly, the original story behind Epste is he worked in education. He had Sexual abuse, harassment allegations levied against him. He effectively couldn't find work anywhere while working. >> That's not the order of events. You're based on time. You're mixed in the timeline. >> And then he was approached to manage billions of dollars in wealth as a financial adviser investor.

>> Bro, that's how the game works, bro. when you're [ __ ] >> that is that you don't approach somebody >> who has no standing in the financial industry to manage your finances. >> Dude, dude, you don't know. You don't know. >> That's literally how the rat game works. You freaking idiot. >> Dude, dude, dude, you don't know how any of the games work because you've never played any of the games. So, don't call me an idiot. >> More a week in the stock market than You'll make in a year. So, all the way down.

>> You can make the little stock market game. You're a one-dimensional figure, okay? You're not playing no games, okay? You're not web, baby. >> Some basic adulting education. >> Could I slip in here, please? >> For both of you, >> could I slip in here, please? Go ahead. >> I'd like to ask Little Red Riding Hood a question. If men are so superior, why is It that the vast majority of people in Epstein files um are men? people who got captured from the little weasel Epstein and got captured and put under his thumb. >> What

a dumb question, bro. >> Question. I think that's a good question. >> Get captured. >> Answer the question, Ben. Go ahead. >> What? So, what what is the question? Why are these people >> If men are so awesome, why were they duped into basically by Epstein? >> Well, first of all, it's a stupid question because I'm not saying men are awesome. I don't know. Oh, yes you were. You were saying they were superior. Little Red Riding Hood. >> The answer is they weren't dupes. They like sleeping with children. >> Dude, dude, >> the answer is

men are in the position of Power. Hence, they are there. No women there. >> Men are weak >> and they got they're perverts. >> Dude, women can play the game, too. They're just not playing. I didn't say it's a women thing. I'm saying it's a you and him thing. I'm saying you're not playing the game because your voice is so high pitched. It's really painful. >> Oh, Simon. >> Sorry, sorry, sorry. >> I'm just saying like you're not that person. >> Simon, isn't it isn't Hillary in the in the files as well? Anyway, do continue,

guys. >> Sorry. I'm the vast majority of them are men. You know that. >> No, I agree that. Don't you think it's proportionate based on the positions of power that >> Well, of course, proportionately men are Going to be, you know, doing the weapon. >> Why are you doing this freak show's work for him? >> Yo, just like Jews are going to be >> I just get a reflex when men get attacked. Go ahead, Ben. Ben, answer the question. Go. >> So, it's like men are going to proportionately be doing the web building over women.

It's not like >> repeat what I said. >> I'm I'm finishing what she said. It's Not like women can't be doing the web building, but just like Jews, right? Jews are going to mostly be doing the web web building. It's not like anyone else can't do the web building. >> Typically, it's going to be a Jew doing the web building, bro. That's that's like the as as gangster as it gets. Like, that's the that's the most bottom tin. >> I don't see Prince Andrew as a web builder. Do you >> Well, it's not it's not

it's you don't have to see web building. You're thinking of it as a good thing or bad thing. I'm thinking of as a just like ability thing, right? >> He's not talking about a real web. He's talking about a spiderweb. Come on, guys. Get >> No, I'm talking about I'm talking about logic like talking about the internet. He's talking about >> Do you not get what I'm saying? Or are you being dumb? I can't. >> I'm just got the ones who got caught in the web. >> No. Which one is it? Are you being dumb

or you don't do you not get what I'm saying? >> I'm pointing out a fact. I'm pointing out a fact that you're trying to wee louder somehow and you haven't said >> what am I what's the question? Ask me again. >> It wasn't a question. It was a statement. >> Okay. So then >> if you want if you want question men are so superior. How is it that that men are all through the Epstein files they got captured by Epstein? Why? >> Yeah. Answer the question, Ben. >> Men got captured by Epstein. >> Yeah, it's

all men on there. Have you seen it? They're all in the Epstein files. Go ahead. >> What does that [ __ ] mean though to me? I don't understand your point. >> What? >> Don't Yeah, don't if we can go back to what I was asking you. What makes you think besides looking at Epstein and and thinking that he looks intelligent? What makes you think that he just got there without any help from MSAD or without any help? >> Because I'm doing it. I'm pulling master web builds myself so I can understand What he's doing.

>> Oh, I mean he did get I mean Lynette, he did get on the biggest on X. I mean, that was some moves there, bro. >> I mean, I guess you said you said that you said, is it? >> Yeah. You said that Jewish people were the ones that are going to build the spaces in the web building, which I don't understand what that means. >> I just I don't know what he was saying about that. >> Yeah. So, are you Jewish? >> He sounded anti-semitic. He sound like Lun, so I just ignore it. >>

He's Jewish. So, >> are you Jewish, bro? >> Yeah. >> Oh, cool. But are you a Zionist? Lun. That's how you ask the question. Are you a Zist? I am a Zion speak again. >> Oh my god. No sense. What you about? He's not even making no sense. No wonder he's packing. No wonder. >> Now he doesn't make sense. M Now he doesn't smashing him. This guy weren't making no sense. What you about your why you bro? >> Well, I just I just think that it's like the more you love the Jews, the better your

life gets. >> I mean, that is true, but it's but then you love evil. Like it's like saying would you love Satan? Not Jews. >> Not Jews though. Lun. This is a trap From Lun. When you mean we mean Zionist. I want a problem with Jews. This is I bet this guy's related to her. >> Why do you keep saying that? That doesn't make any sense. What did he say that makes you think that? Cuz he's Jewish. >> Yeah. Why do you think that? >> Think what? >> That um Listen, it's not about loving the

Jews. It's about Z. I don't care if you're a Jew or not. >> I know. But why don't why don't you like Zionist? the Zionist who thinks because >> this a murder and genocide of innocent Palestinians. >> I know, but why are you why are you guys so surprised? Why are you guys so upset about the the murdering of innocent Palestinians when when it's like they got 1300 people killed and 300 people kidnapped? You don't think that >> get first of all it was Listen, there was 1,150 people who died in October the 7th. At

least 4 250 were military personnel. The vast majority of the rest of them were killed by Israel. Israel killed its own people. What are you talking about, bro? Why you >> Bro, I know. I know. You guys really want to go that angle. That's your >> I don't want to go no angle. You just >> Your angle is that it's a giant conspiracy theory. So >> conspiracy. >> What are you talking about? >> Well, that's in your times of Israel. What are you talking about, >> dude? Can you calm down? I'm asking you a question.

Why are you trying not to, bro? I was backing you up and I found out you're a Z. I got played again. >> He He was He was clearly as soon as I came in here telling you that that Epstein wasn't from Assad. And I was trying to tell you >> he was saying from a different he was saying, "Oh, guess what? >> Oh, Epste was a player. He just fell for it." >> And I was like, I want to hear this theory out because, >> bro, because it's all I'm talking logic. I'm not talking

my feelings. All right. Just because just because I'm about to hop off and I want to go for at least one we're talking we're talking to a Gentleman who is >> Listen, we have a rule. We have a rule for Zios. You got to put your hand up now. I need to train you. Put your hand up and I'm going to come to you in a second. >> I know I haven't learned that rule. Sorry. Go ahead. >> That was the noob. That was >> That was not the Zio. Boss. Boss is not a Zio.

It's >> No. No. I'm talking about Ben. I'm Talking about Ben. Ben. >> Okay. Go ahead, boss. answer your uh answer what you're gonna say and just one thing a correction the point I was going to make was >> Epstein actually got all those positions and you're right without any qualifications he was actually arrested for the first time in 2007 so he already had those positions even in the financial sector because he was given a job in the financial cons consultancy I Think it was in the 80s but go ahead continue >> what but that

what I was getting at is the initial claims were even before that before he even got into the space before he even touched the financial sector like what >> what was the question >> by >> he was in 2008 right and he was in the financial sector in like the 80s and in the 70s he was he was working in Dalton Right? Yeah, he was he was working he went to he was um at Dalton and then Lex Wexner basically gave him all of the credibility, financial credibility because he gave him pretty much power of

attorney. He gave him a mansion in Manhattan. He gave him massive amounts of financial control which kind of just set the course for the rest of his career. >> And this was from somebody who has had No previous experience. But no, what I was >> what I was >> what I was getting on at I just find Ben some of your comments funny and your tone especially um it doesn't take more than five seconds to look at a the wisdom of Samuel yet the courage of King David when I'm pretty sure everyone knows that Solomon

was the wisest person mentioned and then your entire feed is just how Can I be unfortunate person to be around bother other people. >> Make a point. >> There is no point other than if you're just going to join. >> That's what I'm saying. You don't make a point to cause issues. >> You're not making a point. I'm making points. You're not. >> Why did you unmute your mic, Zo? I said put your I said put your hand up. This Is what I mean. The Zios don't learn control. Listen, boss. Don't get angry with him.

This is something called Jewish supremacy. They believe that you're a [ __ ] I did a video on this in the nest, but unfortunately YouTube >> I think I think I think the Jewish people can do a little bit better job than he's doing. >> Obviously, not all Jews believe in Jewish >> sewing discourse. >> I don't know what the Z I don't speak Zo. Go. >> No, that that was the end of it. >> Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. So that was the end of it and you didn't even make a point this whole time.

>> No, he did. He didn't make a point. He said he said Zios need to have some humility. >> So he just need to calm yourself down, bro. >> Bro, this is my whole point. It's like You're talking about humility. Humility. Humility. You're the one, >> bro. I'm not saying it. I don't care about the humility. I got bad arrogance. I'm saying put your hand up. That's all I'm saying. I'm getting you under control in my face. I don't care about humility. Like I ain't got no humility. So anyway, but put your hand up. I'm

trying to teach you control because part of control is to allow these zios to understand we Don't believe in Jewish supremacy. We believe all man is equal irrespective of race, religion or creed. So put your hand up. That's it. Yeah, put your hand up and we'll come to you in a second. God, why is it they all think that the rules don't apply to them, bro? I don't get it. Okay, I want to go to um Truth. truth. Jump in with some point. Okay. It's maybe got a bit too much for truth. It was a

bit >> Listen, I have a question for you. >> Oh yeah, go for it. Ask someone a question. >> Ask Ask ask a question. >> But I see the thing is it's kind of off topic and I don't want you to think that I'm trying to do this on purpose. >> Oh my god. Question for a while. >> I'm going to read this other message I got from my um from my from my chat. It says I I'll read it to you. It's quite Coincidental. She's a Mossad. Uh she's a Mossad. >> You read it

already. >> Oh, no. No. But then she said she is derailing the space and taking it off topic. How did they know you were going to do that? >> Wait, wait. It's not off topic. It's just someone it's of someone that's not in the upstream list. I just wanted to ask you and Beatatrix because you guys are You guys live in Europe, right? >> Uh sorry again. Sorry, I wasn't listening. Ask for trick. I wanted to I wanted to ask your perspective on this because you guys live in Europe, right? >> Yeah, I'm from I'm

from the UK. Yeah, >> but right now I'm the United States of America. Red, white, and blue. Trump, don't deport me. I love MAGA, but do continue. >> My question was about um Megan Markle. Do you have any thoughts on her and like all the stuff that was going on? >> Yeah, I do have thoughts on her. Beatric has a obviously chicks in it. They don't like chicks, but yes, I do have thoughts on Megan Markle. First of all, my position is Harry should be the rightful king, future king of England. He should be the

ginger king and Meghan Markle should be the future queen. That's my >> So when she started getting attacked by everybody, um like all of the paparazzi because I I knew all that stuff that was Going on with Diana. >> What's this got to do with Epstein though? Is she like was she on Epstein Island? >> No, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just since all of this stuff is coming out with Epstein and people are starting to wake up to this satanic ritual crazy stuff. My thought was I just when she moved when she

left um Essex when she left there and came, you know, made made Harry come over to America, the first Thing I thought was she found out some crazy [ __ ] was going on that castle and she wanted nothing to do with it. And so she got her husband to get the heck out of there. And then they the paparazzi and everybody turned on her and made it seem like she was making racist claims. And so I wanted to know if you guys had any correlation or thought to that. >> I stand with Harry. I

stand with Megan Markle. She is Diana. >> Me too. I love her. >> And uh I think anyone who attacks her is a vile racist. Anyone who attacks Harry is a vile racist. >> Are you being sarcastic? >> No, I'm not being sarcastic. Megan, >> what the heck? >> Wait, you don't have to stand with the gingers. >> They are dysfunctional human beings. >> I genuinely think she left cuz she found out some crazy stuff at the house. >> Yeah, exactly. They're trying to hide It. They're trying to hide it. See that? Okay, we Ben,

we've got a question for you. It's from a super chat and it asks, "Ben, why are you so gay?" >> You made that up. >> No, I swear down. Someone paid me $5 to ask that question on the super. >> Go check my YouTube. It's on the Check it out. Go to my next check it out. Someone sent that. >> Hey, no, it's a fair That's a fair Question. That's a fair question. Why am I so gay? How do I even respond to that? I guess the only reason the only way I could possibly respond

to that is like anybody who possibly types that >> because he's a Zio Jew. >> Because I'm a Zio Jew and you're going to interrupt me. >> You're going to give me the most idiotic. He's like De Ruben or something. Is that what you're saying? Sorry. Continue. >> It's a double mute. >> It's a It's a mute. It's a mute. Go ahead. answer the question. >> Why? Why am I so gay? I mean, I would I would ask you back, why are you so [ __ ] >> Um, >> why are you so gay? >>

Okay, so [ __ ] to even the first thing I thought >> Oh, wait. Are you asking me or are you asking the super chatter? >> Who chatter? >> Of course, the super chatter. I would never >> super chatter. You've been man nice to me, bro. I respect >> I respect the super chatter wants to respond, they can respond. >> You are so gay. Okay, cool. Okay, guys. Um, listen, I think the space was became a bit chill out for the last hour or something because we went through already went Through all the content. Obviously,

happens when Chicksaw in the space, it becomes like a murder mystery. Uh, that being said, guys, much love to each and every single one of you. It's 50/50 whether there's going to be a war on the weekend. It looks like Trump just said recently, he said that the negotiations are going well, which seems to suggest that there won't be a war. Uh, someone said, but I tried to double check it. I couldn't find it, but someone on the Chat claimed that um, Barrick Ravid who works for Axios claims that um that there is going to

be attack on the weekend, but I looked at his feed and I looked at both his Telegram, his uh, Twitter feed and I couldn't see anything like that. So, either he put it out and deleted it or I just couldn't see it and it's still there. Um, so the thing with Barrick Reve is, as you know, he has inside information from Trump. Trump tells him before he's about to do Something for Israel because even though Barrick Ravid is allegedly an American journalist, he's basically a Jewish Zionist Israeli journalist. Uh for example, when America when Donald

Trump bombed the nuclear sites, he basically said to Barag, "Oh, you're going to like this." So they all understand what the game is and who they prefer and which countries they put first. In this case, Israel. Um so that means it's um up in the air. That being said, I think it's Slightly unlikely, but I'm not sure. So, if I thought it was completely unlikely, I wouldn't have done a space tomorrow. I would have took a day off because it's Saturday, but because there is a possibility we will be doing a space tomorrow. We'll be

back usual time around 5 to 6:30 p.m. Eastern. Have your notifications on. Um, I got a video coming out at 4:30 Eastern tomorrow. That's on a detailed um explanation of what's happening with Iran leading up to This possible war. So, check that's going to go live at 4:30. We're going to be live. I'll be typing in the chat with everybody like we normally do with these premieres. So, that'll be awesome and fun. The whole crew is there. Appreciate the entire one. We've always got like a few hundred people there who watch the premier. So, pretty

awesome. So, I'm just telling them the space because normally you guys don't know about it that we do the premiere around 4. It is 4:30 p.m. Eastern. So, check that out. That's going to be awesome. Um, how many notifications on? Could we start anytime? I'm following the YouTube guys. So much content, so much information. The Zios are trying to shadow ban. We're speaking about them, but we ain't going to stop. Well, I I mean, I'm trying not to stop, bro. Like, it takes a lot of time with these videos. It's not like a tweet. Just

bang a tweet out. But anyway, that being said, guys, check it Out. The tweet in the nest. Follow, subscribe, do the thing, be awesome. Appreciate each and every single one of you who came to the space. Each and every single one of you who contribute the space. It was awesome. It was fun. Shout out to Ryan Dawson who smashed these chicks. W Dawson. Anyway, much love. >> Left the space. No. >> Yeah. Yeah. He just left. He smashed and left. Appreciate you guys joining in. I Appreciate you guys. Listen, >> Maize is having a space.

Everybody come join. >> Did he cut out when he was trying to That's karma. That's called karma. >> Yes, he did. >> Wait, are you opening? You open back to Zio, bro. He backed a Zo. >> He backed a Zio against the chicks. >> Lun is 100% mad if she was able to unmute and then mute. So, >> oh my god. Wait a minute. Public. What Are you doing there? This is so strange. Where is he? >> Wait, my phone died. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. My phone died just when I was about to

do the ending. What happened there? The Zios The No, my phone didn't die. The Zios hacked my phone and shut it down. I'm back again cuz we can't take So, I'm back again. I'm going to do the ending. I ain't going to let this end, Zio. It ain't going to work. I know you killed my battery, but it's not Going to work. Are you going to say it wasn't the Zios again? That being said, much love to each and every single one. Have your notifications on. I will see you guys tomorrow. I don't know what

these chicks were saying when I was gone cuz they got Mossad to take my phone out. They made the battery die. It went from 3 to 1% to zero. >> Great energy, bro. >> Appreciate it, bro. No, wait. I don't appreciate you're a Zo. >> I like you, dude. I like you, dude. >> Yeah, I know. I like you. I Well, I like you found out you're bro. >> I feel like we'll find equal footing eventually. >> Only, bro, bro. Reject Zionism. You can still be a Jew. >> I think we'll find I think we'll

find a common ground. >> No, no, but listen, Ben, you can still be a Jew. Don't listen to Lair. You could be a Jew, but reject Zionism and Then we're cool. >> I love Zionism, though. I love >> Oh my god. You're like the I can't be friends with the devil. >> No, bro. It's not the devil, bro. That's what I'm saying. I >> Bro, they want to murder children, bro. Like, we can't have that. >> No, bro. We're not trying to kill children, bro. That's not >> Bro, they kill so many children. What are

you talking about, >> bro? It's a There's a literally no circulation of thought. You have to understand the game, bro. >> There's no game, bro. There's no game in human life. Listen, just anyway. next place. There's no game in human life. Anyway, I'm going to see you guys tomorrow. Appreciate you guys joining in. I appreciate you guys listening. And for sure, we'll see you next time. Much love to each and every single one of you. Sorry guys. Thanks for letting me speak.