[music] >> State your name for the record, please. >> Jack Lucas. >> For the record, I'm Detective Sergeant Joseph Dexter, Internal Affairs. This interview is being conducted with [music] regards to case number 65-84569. Would you mind? Sorry. Okay, Detective Lucas, let's talk about the events of April 23rd, 2001. >> Uh My partner, Al Vasquez, and I were sent to pick up an informant. [music] Uh he had some information on some drive-by shootings that we thought the Red Dragons were responsible for. This would pretty much sealed it. >> PLEASE, STOP HIM! >> SO, UH DETECTIVE UH
Vasquez and I immediately went on a pursuit. >> Were you aware, Detective Lucas, that the month prior to this incident, your partner's cell phone log showed over 25 calls to one of the Red Dragon's top lieutenants? >> No, I was not. >> And that the last of these calls was placed less than an hour [music] before you and Detective Bause staked out the Hong Luck Wing Luck Wing Wing Luck Market? [music] >> He uh He did step out of the car at one point for some privacy. I assumed he was calling his wife. >> You
just assumed? >> Yes. He was my partner. I trusted him. >> So, what you're telling me, Detective Lucas, >> Alf. >> is that you had absolutely no knowledge of your partner's extracurricular contacts with the Red Dragons. >> No, none whatsoever. >> You expect me to believe that? >> Believe what you want. It's the truth. >> HEY. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO TRICK OR [ __ ] TREAT, HUH? I got a lovely man, Eddie, and you always will be. You're not going to get into my pants, no matter how much you try to sweet talk me, Jack. >>
Oh, yeah, you get those flowers I sent? >> Oh, [ __ ] you, huh? Hey. Cut it out, Russell. I'll have to start advertising that the great Jack Lucas is a regular here. Maybe sell some tickets. >> Nobody gives a [ __ ] about that, Eddie, all right? >> Innkeeper, straw for my men, wine for my horses. >> I'm a little short on straw, Mr. Lucifer. What else is your preference? >> Martini, up, olives. >> Right. >> And get this man another whatever he's having. Make it a double. Least I can do for having nearly
run him down with my carriage. My humblest apologies, my good sir. >> That's all right. Okay, the drink's not necessary. Well, it would seem to be, as they say in Paris, your fate accomplished. I suggest you enjoy it. I'm Ollie. Jack. Good to meet you, Jack. You look familiar. You an actor? >> [laughter] >> No, but I bet you are. >> Oh. How could you tell? >> [snorts] >> So, what do you do? >> I work for the city. >> Can't get it. I know I know you. I just It'll hit me. I'll be driving
home. It'll hit me. Mhm. >> Long as you don't hit anybody else. >> Touché. Lovely. Thank you. Nice ass, huh? >> Yeah, museum quality. >> My ex had an ass like that. Walked in on her screwing another guy. Broke my heart. It's kind of stupid, though, you know? She didn't love me. Now the [ __ ] wants half of everything I own. Yeah, what are you going to do? Can't live with them. Can't kill them. I'll tell you something, handyman. If I wasn't such a [ __ ] [ __ ] I would strangle that gold
digging [ __ ] with my bare hands. Can I see a picture of her? >> Sure, why not? >> Works downtown, place called the Playpen. You know it? You been in there once or twice? >> Yeah, sure. >> You have once or twice? Got kids? >> No. >> If you had kids, would you let a [ __ ] like that teach them? The reason I ask is this particular [ __ ] goes to the valley every morning, teaches little girls how to plié, then at night [ __ ] on stage for money. Two shows a
night, 7 days a week. She'll [ __ ] anything that moves. Men, women, donkeys, doesn't matter. >> Obviously, the place has changed since last time I was in. Good luck. >> Yeah. Eddie, ring me up, will you? I got to make a phone call. >> Thanks. It was nice talking to you, Jack. >> Excuse me. >> Yeah. >> Is that uh >> Yeah. Real life hero, my friend. >> The mobile customer you are trying to reach >> This one's all yours, pal. Okay? Listen, do me a favor. Why don't you get one of your buddies
to drive you home, all right? >> Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, come on. >> This guy just told me who you are. >> I knew I knew you. Is that article? I read that. It was like 3 or 4 months ago? >> Yeah, something like that. >> Look, let me show a little gratitude, all right? You guys work your asses off. Toast. A toast. To the heroes. The real kind. >> Oh, God. God, God, I am sorry. I am so sorry. >> Don't worry about it, okay? It's It's fine. >> For Christ's sake. You
all right, Jack? >> Yeah, it's it's it's it's nothing, Eddie. Don't worry. >> I God, I feel terrible. Let me Let me take care of this. >> Fine. Thank you. It was It was an accident. I'll take care of Guys, I'll handle >> Hey, come and you bust your joint up for Christ's sake. Let me get it before we go back. >> You all right? Jack. Jack. >> [music] >> Hey. Jack. Hey, come on. Wake up. You're all right? >> [music] >> Jack. >> Hey. Easy. >> Hey, look. I know I poured a hell of
a drink. This is ridiculous. You have Irish, for Christ's sakes. One drink and you're face down in a toilet. You should be ashamed of yourself. That hand that you need to get looked at. I'll get you cigarettes. >> Yeah. >> Thanks. >> What the hell? >> What? What are you looking for? >> Nothing. That guy. The The guy with the with the devil mask. Is he still here? >> No. He and his friends left about 10 or 15 minutes ago. >> Let me Let me take care of this. >> You got his credit card info,
right? >> No. They They paid cash. What? >> All right. Listen. Uh Uh Eddie, you got to do me a favor. >> Yeah, sure. Anything, Jack. >> That guy or or anybody he was with, they come [music] back in here, you got to call me, all right? >> Yeah, sure. You want me to call you, Jack? >> [sighs and gasps] >> No. No, Eddie. Uh For sure, might do me good. >> Hey neighbor, it's Caitlin. Listen, am I stupid or what? I just realized I forgot to tell you to give Rudy one of the pills
along with his food, which sorry, I left in the truck. The keys are on the counter. If you need to reach me, my brother's number in San Francisco is 415-555-6723. See you next week. >> Jack, it's your dad. I didn't hear from you. I'm assuming we're still on for tomorrow. See you then. >> Hey Pop, sorry I'm late. >> That car was supposed to get you through graduation, not retirement. >> Yeah, well, you know me, I have a hard time letting go of things. >> I was just reminiscing with your mother about something that happened
when you were a boy. >> What? It's been 2 years. What is it you used to tell your patients? There's a time to stop grieving and a time to start living again. And I always used to tell you don't shrink from shrinks, right? Help me up, will you? You look like crap. Oh, hey. Thanks. You're still not sleeping, are you? It's getting better. I'm up to like 3 hours a night. 3 hours? Here I was worried. Why don't you let me prescribe something for you? No. No, all right. I don't want to argue about this,
Dad. I'm going to work this on my own. Well, you always were a stubborn little son of a [ __ ] weren't you? Yeah, well, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it? But I have to plead no contest. Contested, all right. Let you off with a warning. This time. Come on, there's a plate of bacon and eggs out there with your name on them. I sure hope you got the tag number of the truck that hit you. Yeah, it was a rough one. You look like [ __ ] Well, you've been talking
to my old man. He just told me the exact same thing. Hey, great minds. How's he doing, anyway? Good. He's good. Thanks for asking. Lucas. 3:00 tomorrow afternoon. You know, Joe, you should try using complete sentences once in a while. It really helps. >> As in my office 3:00 tomorrow afternoon. >> Yeah, what for? >> Well, you find out when you get there, won't you? >> Oh, [ __ ] you. >> Excuse me? I didn't catch that. >> Nothing. Tomorrow. >> You got to watch your mouth, partner. Talking [ __ ] won't help your case
any. Look, I heard him talking to Poole. He's submitting your report day after tomorrow. >> Good, it's about [ __ ] time. >> What do you mean good? You're not worried? >> We all got a job to do, Dexter. He's just doing his, you know. >> Yeah, right. >> Yeah, the report will say what it says, and then whatever happens will happen. >> What are you, a Buddhist now? Why don't you just shave your head, put on your little orange robe, and go hang out at that temple? >> Nah, I shaved my head in college
once on a dare. I looked like a dope. >> Yeah, well, you sure acting like one. Might as well go the distance. Look, I'm going to the bathroom. I'm going to get the shaving cream and the razor here. >> Noisy bugger, aren't you? >> Did you gargle with salt water like I told you? Yeah, well, I know it doesn't taste good. Hey. Don't you use that word with me, young man, or you'll be gargling down soap when I'm through with you, hear? Okay, look, I know I know you're sick, okay? I'm sorry. But Mama can't
come home right now. Your daddy will be home in a couple of hours. What? You got to go, go. You sure? Yeah, no problem. I got plenty to do here. Okay. I'll be home in 20 minutes. Get the salt water ready. I'll check in with you later. >> What's the place downtown, the Play Pen? You know it? Play Pen, this is Mike. >> Yeah, hi. This is Detective Jack Lucas, LAPD Homicide. I need the last name of one of your dancers. >> Hey, Judy. Yes. See you girls. Pepper spray. >> Back off. >> Hey, TAKE
IT EASY. TAKE it easy. I'm I'm I'm I'm a detective, all right? Uh I'm Jack Lucas, LAPD Homicide, okay? Are you Jessica Tarrant? >> Yeah, what do you want? >> First, I want you to put the pepper spray away. Can we do that? I I just need to ask you a few questions. >> What can I help you with? I'm going to be late for work. >> Uh it's uh it's about your ex-husband. >> Oh my god. What did he do? >> I can't really comment on anything that he may or may not have done.
I just need some information like a phone number or an address. >> For me? I haven't seen him in 2 years. Last I heard he was back in England. >> England, huh? >> Yeah. So sorry, I can't help you. But good luck. I hope you find him and if you do, please don't let him know where he can find me. Oh [ __ ] [ __ ] Not again. >> You got AAA? >> Expired. >> Oh. Jumper cables? >> I think it's just the battery. I can't be late for work tonight. >> You're asking the
wrong guy. >> Right. >> So you're saying that you haven't seen your ex in a couple years? >> Yeah. That battery's all corroded. Brand new. >> Yeah. Was he prone to violence at all? Guess that's a yes. >> Yeah, angry punk rocker who liked to hit women. We married for 3 months. Break the dick. Should I start it? >> W- W- Wait a second. What did you say his name was? >> Rick. >> Last name Oliver by any chance because the guy who says he's your ex-husband introduced himself to me as Ollie. Could he be
using an assumed name? I mean, living in the country illegally? >> It's not Rick. >> Yeah, how do you know? >> Because I know. >> But But you do know this Ollie character. >> Yeah. Why do you think I have the pepper spray? >> Well, do you know his last name or or maybe where he lives? >> No, I don't know his last name. I don't want to know where he lives. I just don't want to see the guy anymore. Should I start the car? >> Uh yeah. Yeah, give it a try. >> [ __
] He was a regular at the club. He was there almost every night. Really big tipper. He used to stuff $100 bills in my bra. He'd told me that I I reminded him of some old movie actress, someone I never even heard of. It was no big deal, you know? I didn't think twice about him. Till one night I'm I'm backstage changing and he's he's back there and he starts groping me and he wouldn't take no for an answer. Really creepy. I yelled out for Mike the bouncer. He comes, he throws the guy out and
he tells him not to come back to the club. >> When was this? >> 2 months ago. That's when all the weird [ __ ] started happening. >> Oh, yeah, like? >> Late night hang-ups, filthy messages on my machine. Stuff like that. All right, slow down. It's right up here on the right. >> So, uh Listen, if you need anything, you just give me a call, okay? >> Because dance lessons don't pay the rent. >> Excuse me? >> That's the answer. >> What's the question? >> Why would I want to work in a place like
this? I've seen that look before. >> Listen, I I already have one drink in my life. I think this is my limit. >> Jack? Hey, girl. >> Hey. >> Jack, this is my friend Sandy. >> Be careful, he's a cop. >> Cop? >> You better get in there. Sal's pissed. >> Got you right in. >> Well, thanks for the ride. >> Yeah, listen, did you happen to keep any of those tapes of the messages he sent? >> Yeah. >> Can you get them to me? >> Why? So they can collect dust on your desk? Sorry.
>> No, that's all right. People have their issues with cops. What are you going to do? Have a better day. >> [music] >> Hey Josh, how's the throat? Momma didn't make you gargle with soap, did she? >> [laughter] [sighs] >> Yeah. Yeah, put her on. Hi, how are you? Yeah, no, no, you didn't miss anything. No, I just followed up on a couple of loose ends. I came up empty. Yeah. All right, I'll see you tomorrow then. No, I'm going straight home, mother. >> [laughter] >> Good night. >> Yo, Jack. Yeah, I'm glad I caught
you, man. Yo, man, we're going out to Mali's, man. You coming? Oh, come on, man. >> All right, why not? >> Let's roll. >> [laughter] >> Such a good laugh. >> This Indian dude goes into a [ __ ] house to get laid for the first time. They tell him, "You know, you need to go outside and practice on a knot in a tree for a while. Then come back in." So, he goes out, couple of hours, comes back, says, "I'm ready now." They get their best [ __ ] They send him in the back
>> room, right? So, she they get in there, she he starts poking her out with a stick. She says, "What the [ __ ] is you doing?" Indian dude says, [music] "Me be smart this time. Me check for bees." >> [laughter] >> Did you tell that one last week? >> Oh, no, [ __ ] no, man. That was brand new, man. >> All right. Okay, that's it for me, boys. >> Oh, no, no, no, wait, >> Yeah, no, I'll see you tomorrow. >> No, man, come on, man. That was still fresh. Come on, Jack. Come
on now. Got plenty more jokes, man. One more drink, come on, man. >> All right, I'll get us another round. >> There you go, Jack. >> All right, let's move, move. >> Yeah. Come on, Jack. Excuse me. Excuse me. >> Jack, good to see you. >> Enough with the games, [ __ ] Where's my [ __ ] gun? >> Well, I'm sure it will turn up someplace. >> All >> You should be concerned with that. It's not exactly a rave. >> How the hell do you know about that? >> You're off duty, Jack. You should
learn to relax. >> stop it. >> All right, stop this car. You're under arrest. YOU'RE UNDER ARREST, GOD DAMN IT! >> DON'T TOUCH THAT GLASS. >> EXCUSE ME. >> THERE. >> Thank you. Do me a favor, give me a baggie or something, okay? >> Jack. >> I'm sorry. >> Is that your nose? >> [laughter] >> This is a nice place you got here, Joe. I'm a big fan of divorce modern myself. Thinking of having some work done at my place. This? Wow, right in the middle of the [ __ ] living room. Bet the missus
would never let you get away with this, huh? >> Why are you doing this? >> We live in a [ __ ] up society, Joe. Cops get criticized, criminals walk free. But when [ __ ] like you and within the force itself make other cops' lives even more difficult, that's where I draw the line. >> Why are you doing this? What do you want? >> Joe, I need you to sign this. I've made a few changes. I hope you don't mind. >> I didn't write this. It's Foss's dirty >> [snorts] >> Look, this is NOT
MY FAULT, JACK. >> SIGN THE [ __ ] PAPER! >> [laughter] [snorts] >> JOE, you're very cooperative in what I know are trying [snorts] circumstances. >> Homicide, Lucas. >> Hey, Jack. What do you >> Jack, you're talking to me right there in the department. You're tracking on the bad guys right now. >> All right, look, whoever you are, the joke's over, okay? >> I don't know if I like that tone of voice, Jack. This is your pal Ollie you're talking to. You gave me the wrong file yesterday. I asked for the McFarland file. >> You
got something that belongs to me, you little [ __ ] and I want it back. >> I'm sorry, what's that? You're going to have to speak up. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's right, you can't. Not with all those other cops around. Must be embarrassing, Jack. >> Have your gun lifted by some dirt bag and then not to report it, well >> All right. Listen to me. So far nobody's been hurt. If you want things to go easier for you, you'll stop this right now. >> Actually, things have been very easy as it is. You've
been very cooperative, surprisingly so. Don't think for a minute that I don't appreciate it because I do. And it's really not accurate to say nobody's been hurt, Jack. That's right. The bad news is you lost your gun. Good news is I got him. >> Got who? What the hell are you talking about? >> Well, I'll give you a little hint. Have you seen Dexter this morning? He's not there, is he? Perhaps it's because his brains are splattered all over his living room. Is that too big of a hint? Jack? Are you there? Hello. Oh, come
on. You've got to admit you're pleased. >> Is this some kind of sick joke? >> God, no, Jack. No, no, no, no, no. I would never joke about death. Death's too frightening, don't you think? >> Yeah, this is given in homicide. I need a trace on Lucas's phone. 15. Go, go. >> By the way, have you had a chance to see his report? There's only so much I can do to save you, Jack. I'm afraid the report's your problem. >> All right, buddy. You know, let's let's just let's just slow down for a second, all
right? Let's let's talk about this. >> You know what, Jack? I feel strong. Strong enough to deal with that [ __ ] ex-wife of mine. >> All right, this uh this thing about Dexter, can can we talk can we talk some more about this? >> Sure. Sure thing. Let me just go get some quarters so I can spend a little more time on the phone with you. Got to go. >> Who was it? >> Anonymous tip. >> About what? >> Dexter. >> Sorry, I don't do autographs. >> Cute. I'll tell you one thing. This killer,
he's one careless individual. Either that, or he's trying to set somebody up. It's too damn easy. Look what Breslin just found. >> Yeah, I got this out of the curb. It's got blood all over it. He must have dropped it on the way to his car. Let me go log this in the truck. >> Well, well, well. Look who's here. Guess all five local channels must be outside now. Oh my god, he's wearing makeup. >> Lucas. Gifford. >> Sir. >> Looks like everybody's managed to control their grieving. >> Well, Dexter was never a candidate for
Mr. Congeniality, sir. >> I'll I'll you that. So, you guys were on the scene first? >> Yeah, Lucas got an anonymous tip. >> I see. O I S briefed me. What do you guys got? >> Time of death between 3:00 and 6:00 a.m. We got the slug. It's 9 mil. >> Execution-style killing. Okay, we're talking professional hit. >> Or somebody with a grudge. The way I hear it, ex-wife number one was after him for back alimony. Ex-wife number two caught him doing ex-wife number one apparently right here on the pool table. >> All right, Gifford.
That's more information than I need right now. >> Well, I know it ain't pretty, sir, but she did say she'd kill him if she ever saw him again. Maybe she saw him again. >> Lucas, what do you think? >> I don't think we can rule anybody out at this point. >> Okay. Well, there's about a dozen good cops that are on unemployment right now because Dexter got him bumped off the job, plus 15 ongoing investigations in our precinct alone. You happen to be one of those. >> Everybody knows Dexter's looking at me. >> That's right.
Well, the media's going to try to make a meal out of this. Understand? Can't afford any more missteps. So I'm going to put Bressler and Martinez on this one. Nothing personal. Sorry, guys. >> Here's the 10-58 in the Southland. Coming up next on KZY, we go to the newsroom in Sky copter. >> You got any aspirin? Whatever my son's got, it seems like I'm coming down with it. >> Hey Jack, how was your lunch, man? >> Fine, why? >> Cuz your dessert just showed up about an hour ago, man. Yo, honey here, I was trying
to talk to her, but she ain't have nothing to do with me, man. All she wanted was you. Hey Jack, man, you bagging that, ain't you? >> No, no, she's just No. >> Come on, man, you can >> I'll be right back. >> Yeah, yeah, that's my man. Jack's bagging that. >> You're a damn pig, Russell. Ain't no two ways about >> All right, did you bring me those tapes? Are you all right? >> He was at my place, in my apartment. >> When? >> Last night. >> All right, how did he how did he
get in? >> I don't know. I don't know. I checked everything. I looked The windows weren't Jimmy'd. My door was still locked. >> Did you see him? >> No, no, I was sleeping. Jesus. [laughter] >> All right, all right, just try to calm down, okay? >> I can't calm down, okay? I want this guy arrested now. >> All right, look, look, I I want this guy as bad as you do. Really, I'm I'm on your side. All right, but but I I have to I have to follow procedure here, okay? That's how it works. >>
He was in my apartment. Next time he could kill me in my bed. That's how it works. I want to talk to a female cop. A female will understand. >> I understand, all right, but a female cop is going to have to follow procedure just like me. >> Procedure? If your procedure means that I have to go home and wait for this psycho to slit my throat before you do something, you can take your procedure, you can shove it your ass. >> All right, hold on, hold on a second, okay? Hold on. All right. All
right, let let me let me put it to you this way. You have to look at it like a judge would. All right, there was no evidence of a break-in. Nothing was stolen. You didn't even see the guy. So, if I want to pull a warrant, I have to have probable cause. >> You want probable cause? Here. Little present he left me last night. I'll give you three guesses what he did all over him. Show that to a judge. >> Jessica, Jessica, please. >> Mhm. She wouldn't be the reason you have bags under your eyes
every morning, would she? >> Jack. Jack, uh did Dexter give you a copy of your IA investigation before he got whacked? >> What do you mean, did he give me a copy? >> It's a simple question, Jack. >> No, of course he didn't. Why? >> Well, there were 15 ongoing investigations, but only 14 files in Dexter's cabinet. Yours is missing. Forget it. Let's hope it turns up. >> Lucas. >> Yeah. Yeah, hey George. Uh yeah, thanks for getting back to me. I was calling about that glass from the mall. Did you get any prints on
that? Yeah, well, you know, it was worth a try. Thanks. >> [clears throat] >> Hi, it's Jess. [music] Please leave me a message. If this is work related, page me at >> Jessica? >> Oh, great. You're getting as bad as him. >> Could you just wait a second? >> I can't be late for work again. >> Could you just wait a second, please? >> Hi, Jess. What? >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry I was insensitive, but this thing is a lot more involved than it would appear with this Ali guy, and I I couldn't really talk
about it at this stage. >> here? >> No, Mike. He's cool. Thanks. I get off at 11:00. >> I'll pick you up. >> I love you, Mike. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm so out of here. >> What? >> This really freaky creep just made my run. What? Oh, don't worry. It's not him. This guy's like long stringy hair, and his teeth are gross. You don't mind if you get a cab for yourself till I do? >> No, I have a ride, actually. >> Oh, no. Let me guess. >> Freeze. Freeze. >> Cut it out. >>
I'm sorry, ma'am. >> [snorts] >> I think I'm going to have to frisk you now. >> Stop it. >> [laughter] >> It's not like that. >> Yeah, uh-huh. Right. >> Hey, can you call me a cab? >> Okay. You're a cab. >> Haha. >> You got to admit, it's a little funny. >> Yeah, but keep the day job, okay? Wait a minute. Hey. >> Hey. >> You're early. >> Early? She said 11:00. >> Yeah, well, since she was late last time. Wonder why. Sal's making her stay. >> Mhm. You should go in her act hot.
I'll get Mike to let you in for free. >> No, I don't know. How long did you say? An hour? >> You're not getting anything, are you? Cuz most guys wouldn't mind. I'm kidding. Well, if you're not in the mood to watch a bunch of beautiful women >> Yeah, can I get a cab to the airport, please? >> You could save me some cab fare. >> Deal. >> Thanks. Mike, cancel the cab. See you tomorrow. >> All right, never mind. Scratch that. Always the blonde. All right, here you go. Wait until you get inside. Listen,
now do me a little favor. Turn on the light and give me a wave so I know you're okay, all right? >> Okay. Well, I'm going to wait up for you, too. >> [music] [music and singing] >> I'm okay. >> [music and singing] [music] >> What are you going to do then? >> I understand it's not like I can stay here as long as I want, which is great cuz I have nowhere else TO GO. AH! >> [screaming] [screaming] [laughter] >> YOU NEED TO START LEVELING WITH ME RIGHT NOW. PARTNER. What the hell's going on
between you and her? >> I met her at the club. >> Oh. I didn't know you were in the titty bars, Jack. But hey, we've only been working together 3 months. Guess we're not going to find out everything all at once. Why was she down at the station today? >> She said somebody was threatening her, I told her I'd look into it. >> [sighs] >> Well, we sure as hell doing that right now, aren't we? Look, Jack. I'm not boss. You're going to have to trust me once in a while, okay? This girl might be
dead cuz you didn't. >> You don't think I don't know that, Carla? >> All right. Look, I found this in the dead girl's hand. All we got to do now is find some [ __ ] walking around with no pocket on his shirt. You see this? Right here along the bottom, along the seam. Just back up. Yeah. Just a few grains, but it makes our killer a smoker. Maybe the lab can tell us what brand the [ __ ] smokes. >> [sighs and gasps] >> Shall we go talk to your friend? >> Yeah. >> I'm
afraid you're not going to be able to stay here tonight. Do you have any friends, family you can get with? >> No. >> Then I will give you the names of a few women's shelters. They'll be able to help you out. There's a decent one over on Wilshire. I'll have a patrolman take you there. >> Listen, Carl. I don't want to pass her off to a stranger in case she trusts me. I'll take her. Give me a half hour, 45 minutes. It's no big deal. >> Detective Lucas will take you. >> Thank you. Jack, I
don't have to stay here. I I could >> safer here for now. >> I just don't want to cause you any more trouble. >> I'm already in trouble. The DNA results on my handkerchief should be in by tomorrow night. If I don't have anything on him by then I got to go get back to the crime scene. Try to get some rest. >> It's okay. I'm awake. >> Told you to take the bed. I'd hit the couch. >> No, I didn't feel comfortable with that. Um I did borrow this though. I hope it's okay. It
was just kind of cold in here. Oh, some woman called looking for you. I I wasn't snooping or anything, but the the volume was up on your machine. She had a really sexy voice. >> It was Caitlyn. Probably checking up on me. >> Oh. >> She She's my neighbor. I I feed her cat when when she's out of town. She's kind of you know, neurotic about that. Uh pour some coffee. >> Sure. >> I I got instant. >> Great. Hey, how did it go? When you got back? >> Fine. >> And your partner? Did you
tell her that I was staying here? >> I thought it best not to mention that for now. >> It's amazing, isn't it? How one person can [ __ ] up your life completely. When it happens twice, it's not really fair. >> When was the first time? >> September 16th, 1997. I just gotten back from the Royal Ballet summer workshop in London. I had an audition for the hottest new show on Broadway and I was in love. Well, you know what happened there. >> Yeah, well, you wouldn't be the first person to blame the ex for
[ __ ] up your life. >> Oh, no, no. He was small potatoes. I'm talking about Peter Kiermaier. >> Who's he? >> Bicycle messenger. >> Bring you some bad news or something? >> No. He hit me. The day before my audition as I was crossing 57th Street. I broke my ankle. And that as they say was that. When a horse breaks its leg, you shoot it. When a dancer breaks her leg, well, it's time to start looking into shoe sales. >> I think you're doing all right, you know, you're working. Doing what you do. >>
It's not exactly what I dreamed of growing up. I know what he wants from me. What does he want from you? >> Wish I could figure that out. I never bust them. I remember the face of everybody I ever booked. >> Well, maybe he picked you because he hates cops. Maybe it's random. >> No. Nothing about this guy is random. Nothing that's happened between him and me isn't accident. I know that. There's a connection there somewhere, I guess. >> I saw that before. What the hell is it? >> Talk about somebody [ __ ] up
your entire life. Detective Lucas, I'd like to talk to you about something of a more personal nature. >> It's fine. Go ahead. >> December 5th, 1999. Your mother was found murdered on that day. >> Correct. >> Who wrote it? >> The person who killed my mother. It was left at the crime scene. Case was never solved. Can you talk about how that murder how that affects your job? >> Well, I think if anything, it's made me a better cop. >> And why is that? >> Well, when I go to see somebody whose entire world has
been taken away by some [ __ ] >> who doesn't give a [ __ ] whether he's killing somebody's mother >> or father or daughter or whatever, you know. >> Maybe they just looked at him the wrong way, you know. And he pulls a trigger. He snuffs out that light forever. >> Well, I know what those people are feeling, you know, I know what they're going through. >> So, that makes sense. >> Yeah. >> Nice last words to me, Jack. >> Hello. >> Lucas. >> Oh my god. >> What do you want, you [ __
] >> Hey, jeez, Jack. Do you always have to answer the phone that way? You're going to drive your callers off. Daddy? >> Yeah. >> Well, you told me to give you a call if those knuckleheads came in again. You know, the French maid, the one with the great ass. >> Uh, yeah. >> [sighs] >> Well, she stopped in and I caught her. Now, do you want to redress or you want to go on talking nasty to me? >> What was that last name again, please? >> I think it's Chadwick with an E. You know,
when you first pulled up, I thought you were going to ask me to wash your car. >> Yeah. Uh, you say you were in his acting class? >> Yeah. He's a great actor, but he's a little weird, if you ask me. We did this scene in class once and I went to his house to rehearse. >> So, you went to his house? >> My, my, my, aren't we clever? >> Hello there, Ollie, old pal. >> Nice to see you, too, Jack. Would you move your car, please? Get out of the car, you're under arrest. >>
You're arresting me for what? Murdering Dexter? Hardly worth it. He died sniveling Dexter. >> Get out of the [ __ ] CAR OR >> JACK, easy Jack, please. I have neighbors. >> You want to [ __ ] me now Jack, is that it? >> Shut the [ __ ] up. >> I haven't done anything. CALL THE POLICE. >> MA'AM, I am the police. This is under control here. Thank you. >> HE'S KILLING ME. >> YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. ANYTHING you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney the state will provide you one at no cost to you. These are your rights. Do you understand me, you piece of [ __ ] >> Yes, I do. >> Let me just understand what you're saying. You're waiving your constitutional right to counsel. Is that correct? >> I'm an innocent man. I don't need a lawyer to tell you that. >> Why'd you kill Joe Dexter? >> I have no acquaintance with any Joe Dexter, much less a reason to kill him. >> Yo Jack. I
did a rundown on this guy like you asked. This is it? >> Okay. Jack's gone now. Feel free to open up a little, okay? >> We checked everything man, he's clean. Man, I even ran a plates on his caddy. He didn't even have a [ __ ] parking ticket. Transfer of ownership from previous owner Frank Gambillo four years ago. That's it. Doesn't make any sense. You give it up already? >> No, this motherfucker's a character. Now, I got to admit he's creative, that's for sure. Have Dorland come down here with his machine. >> Dorling? He
waived counsel and agreed to a polygraph. How'd you pull that one off? >> No, he requested it. >> Mr. Chadwick, do you own a Cadillac? >> I do. Call me old-fashioned, but I like to buy American. >> Yes or no, please. >> Yes. Did you know Joe Dexter? >> No. >> Did you ever meet Joe Dexter? >> Never. >> Did you telephone Detective Lucas here at the station yesterday evening? >> Yes. >> Why? >> Detective Lucas and his girlfriend, Jessica Tarrant, are engaged in a plan to blackmail me. Miss Tarrant is a Well, there are
ladies present, so I'll just say she's an exotic dancer, but that should tell you enough right there. Anyway, after their failed and clumsy attempt at extortion, I assume they are now trying to frame me for the murder of this Joe Dexter person. >> Oh, give me a break. >> See, I told you. He's a rich, ain't it? >> What was the nature of the conversation between you and Detective Lucas? >> Well, I admittedly, have on one or two occasions visited Miss Tarrant's club. And I tend to tip rather heavily. It's a weakness of mine. Anyway,
Miss Tarrant became fixated on me, for lack of a better word. I think she smelled money. My family's quite wealthy. It makes me something of a target. >> Let's stick with the conversation between you and Detective Lucas, please. >> Of course. I simply told Detective Lucas that I knew very well what he and Miss Tarrant were up to, and that if he thought he was going to get away with it, he was sorely mistaken. It's not the first time that somebody's tried something like this. You cannot imagine the kind of scum that comes out of
the woodwork. >> Stick with the conversation, please. >> Detective Lucas became abusive and I was forced to hang up. >> I'm not believing this. I mean, this [ __ ] is lying through his teeth. Oh, come on, Kev. You're not buying this piece of [ __ ] story. I mean, this this is all just a a a [ __ ] smoke screen. >> Ask him where he was the night Dexter got killed. >> Mr. Chadwick, where were you the night Dexter was killed? >> At home. I was watching one of my mother's old films. I
have them all on videotape. It reminds me of what she was like. I still feel her loss as if it were yesterday. >> You know, I read the papers. I've heard about this department's questionable ethics and tactics, rogue cops and whatnot, but this This is unacceptable. >> Once again, Mr. Chadwick, did you murder Joe Dexter? >> Why would I murder a man I have never met? >> Yes or no. >> No. Absolutely not. >> Jack. Well, you may not want to hear this. >> Judges, let's have it. >> My opinion, he's telling the truth. >>
I don't see how. Jack said he admitted to killing Dexter and I believe him. Look, there's something off about this guy. I think he knows how to beat your machine. >> It's possible. Unless he's so crazy he believes everything he's saying, he's telling the truth. Bottom line. Sorry. Cut him loose. >> Mr. Chadwick, >> Hm? >> You're free to go. >> Mhm. Catch me if you can. >> What the [ __ ] did YOU JUST SAY? YOU MURDERING [ __ ] CHADWICK, GET OFF ME. WRESTLER, CAN YOU GET HIM? GET OFF ME. LET GO. GET
HIM OUT OF HERE. GET HIM OUT OF HERE, WRESTLER. ALL RIGHT, I GOT HIM, MAN. NO, I KNOW. NO, I KNOW. DO YOU HEAR ME? GET HIM OUT. >> [screaming] >> ALL RIGHT. GET HIM OUT. >> MY HANDS ARE TIED. >> [snorts] >> THAT'S THE CITY'S OFFICIAL POSITION. >> OKAY. Thank you. I'll talk to you. >> Mr. Chadwick. >> Uh-huh. Okay. Here's what we're willing to do. Uh the department will pay for hospital expenses and any other restitution you may need. As for pressing charges, I hope you'll reconsider. >> This man injured me. He humiliated
me in front of my neighbors. >> I'm I'm I'm I'm very sorry and and he's sorry, too. It's his temper. Um that aside, >> [music] >> I think that we do better to handle things within the department. >> The department? The department's a disgrace. I'm filing charges. >> Well, you don't >> I'll tell you something else, sir. I have many friends in the media as well as in the county board of supervisors, and it is well known that you have your eye on the chief's job when he steps down next year. I'll thank you to
wipe that smirk off your face. I want this man placed under arrest immediately or I will make some phone calls and make your life a living hell. >> Okay. All right, you have my word. >> Good. >> [clears throat] >> Doris. Yeah, prove it. What? Huh? Yeah. Yeah. I see. And what about the DNA? The second it comes in, you let me know. All right? Bye. This security guard at the Play Pen says he saw the murdered girl get into your car last night. That makes you, Jack, last person to see her alive. Greg, how
long have you known me, huh? You can't really believe I killed this girl. It's not the issue. Let's put that aside. This guy, this character, Chadwick, you should have seen what you did to his nose. He wants your ass real bad. All right? Real bad. Yeah, so what are you saying to me? What I'm saying, Jack, is we've been getting the [ __ ] kicked out of us in the press recently. If I don't stop the bleeding now, it's going to turn into a media circus. Look, I know you've been going through hell recently. I
feel for you. But I got to ask for your gun. Come on. That's the way we do it. And the other one, the Beretta, where is it? It's at home. Why? I took it to the range the other night. I noticed a a crack in the slide. I was going to take it to the armorer. Look, I can go and get it. All right? It'll only take me an hour. If you're worried, you send Gifford with me. >> 1 hour. Go. Don't leave me hanging, Jack. >> [music] >> Be right back. >> She's there, isn't
she? The girl. You didn't take her to no damn shelter. >> No. >> I knew it. >> He would have found her there, Carla. All right, he could have got to her like that, easy. >> You are not helping yourself any. Damn, Jack, sometime I wonder if you want to go down. Look, let me explain something to you. I'mma help you out as much as I can, okay? But I won't go down with you. I can't do that to my family. >> I wouldn't want you to. >> All right, as long as we understand each
other. >> So, just take a few minutes. >> Damn, if that's all it takes, I feel sorry for her. >> [laughter] >> Just trying to lighten things up a little, okay? >> I don't have a lot of time, so grab your things and come with me, okay? >> Why? >> Just do it, please. >> Jack, tell me what's going on. >> He killed my mother, Jess. My mother, Dexter, Sandy. He's the one who wrote this. >> Oh my god. >> Now, there's no question in my mind that you're next. This [ __ ] knows everything
about me. He knows where I live, and I'm pretty sure he's figured out that you're here by now. So, can we please >> But I'm allergic to cats. >> I promise you will never see the [ __ ] thing. It hides under the bed all day. Listen, once you're in here, don't come back out till everybody is with me. >> What if your neighbor comes back? What do I say to her? >> She won't. She's gone all week. >> I got you, little [ __ ] >> Yes? >> FedEx. >> Can you just leave it,
please? >> I need a signature. I'm sorry. >> Of course can. >> Coming. >> Jack? >> Dad, I'm in trouble. I need your help. >> What kind of trouble? >> Just get in, please. I'll tell you on the way. >> Where are we going? >> Your place. I need to borrow something. >> Jack, what in the hell's going on? >> The kid in this picture, was he ever a patient here at Shackleton? >> Jesus Christ. Where in the hell did you get this? >> So, you do know him. >> Richard Bigelow. Brilliant brilliant kid. Deeply
disturbed. Dark, violent nature. That's his mother, Sharon Cain. >> She was an actress, right? >> B-movies. More of a pin-up girl, really. There were rumors she had an incestuous relationship with her father. >> And she carried on the family tradition with her son. >> Anyway, Bigelow walks in on them one afternoon. Mother and son in all their glory. He tries to separate them. And Richard beats him within an inch of his life. >> So, the old man has the kid committed. Three years later, both parents are dead. Murder-suicide. The father did it. He strangled her,
then he shot himself. Richard is named sole beneficiary of the family's fortune. Over a hundred million dollars. And he can't touch it. He's enraged. He tried everything. Tried to pretend he'd been rehabilitated, but I knew better. >> What did you do then? >> I made damn sure he stayed locked up as long as humanly possible. I got the review board to grant a 10-year stay on any further reviews. >> Oh my god. His next review date would have been >> A little over 2 years ago. >> Oh god. >> It's him, Dad. "Catch me if
you can." He said it straight to my face. >> 10-33 negative 10-4. >> Be careful, son. >> Hey neighbor, it's Caitlyn. So, I called in for messages a few minutes ago and some chick answered the phone. What's with that? Call me. >> Oh, [ __ ] this. >> [groaning] >> Oh, hell no. >> Jack, show me your hands. Is this how you reward people who trust you? >> Carla. Shh. Just get the kid. >> Carla, listen to me. He's in there right now. He's in there somewhere. And if he finds Jessica, he's going to kill
her. Do you hear me? >> Where's Jack? Where's your hero? >> Carla, please listen to me. Do you remember what you said to me last night about trusting you? >> Come on, sweetie. Tell me. >> If I was guilty, would I come back here, HUH? >> NO! NO! NO! >> CARLA, PLEASE. I'M BEGGING YOU. >> I SWEAR TO GOD, JACK. I lose my job over this, I'm taking it out on your ass. >> Call for backup and watch out THAT EXIT. >> NO! OFFICER NEEDS ASSISTANCE. POSSIBLE HOMICIDE SUSPECT. 1307 Palmetto. >> [sighs] >> How the
hell I get myself into this [ __ ] >> Jess. Jessica. Jessica. Jessica. >> It's okay. It's okay. I got you. I'm here. It's okay. I'm here. I got you. You'll be okay. You'll be okay. >> Oh, how sweet. Would you place your hands in the air, please? Up. Quite the rogue cop, aren't you, Jack? Hell of a killing spree you've been on. Too bad it has to end. But, all things must pass. Would you get on your knees, please? I promise you you won't feel a thing. >> Like my mother? >> I wish that
were true, Jack, but unfortunately there was quite a bit of pain. If only your father had cooperated, none of this would have been necessary, but stubborn till the end, I suppose. Mine was the same way. We have that in common. >> What are you talking about? >> Oh, Jack. Don't you know? It's amazing what you can accomplish in a single night with a lazy orderly and broken window latch. >> You won't get away with it this time. My partner's [music] downstairs right now calling for backup. >> Well, I'll add her to the list. Just think,
Jack. When all said and done, you may go down as one of the city's great serial killers. Say a little prayer. >> Drop it. Drop it. >> No. >> [music] >> Take care of her and secure that gun. Thanks. >> You're going to be okay, honey. I need an ambulance 1307 Palmetto. >> Out of the car, nobody gets hurt. >> And I thought Michael [music] was a piece of [ __ ] >> Shoot the [ __ ] >> [screaming] >> So what happened to you, tally, Jack? After all, this is your gun. >> What do
you want to shoot her, huh? You won. I'm already [ __ ] You saw it in that. You walk away right now and I'm still going down just like you planned it. >> I know what you're trying to do, Jack. Very admirable. Pathetic, but admirable. >> You really want to talk about pathetic? My father told me all about you, about how your mother used you to get back at daddy. >> It's not true. He's lying. >> Did it hurt? Did it hurt knowing she was just [ __ ] you to feed her own [ __
] up twisted psyche? I mean, no wonder you're such a little [ __ ] Oh, here. Come on. Let her go. You win. >> I told you, Jack. It won't work. >> Just did. >> [music] [music] >> US dollar >> [music] [music]
